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Summary

➡ Lisa from ‘Question the Narrative’ interviews Claudia, a biological dentist and author of the book ‘You Can Heal Your Mouth’. Claudia shares her journey into biological dentistry, which started when she experienced health issues while studying traditional dentistry. She questioned the use of certain materials like mercury in dental procedures and sought more information. Claudia’s quest led her to the International Academy of Oral Medicine and Toxicology, a leading organization for biological dentistry, where she learned about safer and healthier dental practices.
➡ The text discusses the history and controversy of mercury amalgam fillings in dentistry, which originated in the 1800s and have been widely used due to their affordability and ease of use. However, there has been opposition due to health concerns, leading to a global ban on these fillings in the near future. The author also introduces the concept of biological dentistry, which focuses on the impact of dental health on overall well-being, and shares their personal journey of health improvement through detoxification from mercury and adopting a healthier lifestyle. The author’s book, “You Can Heal Your Mouth,” details this journey and the importance of oral health.
➡ The speaker discusses their journey with dental health, focusing on the removal of amalgams (mercury fillings) and wisdom teeth, and the discovery of cavitations (holes) in their mouth. They express concern about the lack of protection during these procedures and the potential harm of materials used in dentistry, such as BPA in white fillings. They advocate for the SMART (Safe Mercury Amalgam Removal Technique) protocol, which safely removes amalgams, and call for more dentists to be trained in this method. They also mention the potential health benefits of removing amalgams and other dental toxins, but note that not all patients see immediate improvement.
➡ The text discusses the process and potential issues of root canals. Root canals involve cleaning the tooth and sealing it, but this can trap harmful microorganisms inside the tooth. These microorganisms can enter the bloodstream and potentially cause various chronic diseases. The text suggests that no dentist can completely clean a tooth, and the decision to perform a root canal or extract a tooth can be complex, especially considering the potential psychological impact on the patient.
➡ The text emphasizes the importance of oral health and its impact on overall well-being. It suggests that people should reassess their oral health, particularly those with dental fillings (amalgams), as these could be affecting their health without them realizing. The text also discusses biological dentistry, a holistic approach to dental care that considers the body as a whole. It mentions the need for more biological dentists and the potential harm of titanium implants, suggesting alternatives like zirconium implants or stem cell research. Lastly, it highlights the importance of prevention in maintaining oral health.
➡ The text discusses the importance of maintaining good oral health and its impact on overall well-being. It highlights the need for more awareness and education in the field of biological dentistry. The speakers express gratitude for those who are helping to spread this information and encourage listeners to share the knowledge with others. They also hint at future discussions on the topic.

Transcript

Foreign this is Lisa from Question the Narrative. Wishing everybody a great day on this Friday, the 22nd of May. Welcome back to the channel. And today I actually have a really special guest that I’ve been talking about for a while who is not only an amazing biological dentist, but she is a dear friend of mine and she has shifted so many things for me and on this journey. She is a teacher, a leader, an advocate, and someone who truly cares about health and health from your mouth’s perspective. She’s just written a new book called you can heal your mouth and it’s an English and an Italian because she’s based in Italy.

And I’d like to welcome her to the channel today because it’s really exciting to have you here, Claudia. So, Claudia, welcome to the channel. How are you today? Oh, so much, Lisa, for having me here. Thank you so much. This is going to be very interesting and very nice talking to all the people that you have in your channel because this is a subject that it has to be known worldwide. And I really thank you this space that you’re giving me to spread this word. Well, I have to say that so many people have been commenting on our recent videos when, when Honey and I speak about it and other people, and we’re very excited because this area seems to be very rich in people’s minds.

And right now I think that you are really a pioneer in this modality of health care because health. And, and I think not everybody knows that. My background has been in healthcare venture capital, and I’ve looked at all the different modalities. But what’s interesting here is that you’re in dentistry, but you’re in the field of dentistry that is really unique at this time because it is looking at the body from a holistic perspective. Because right now the real trend in healthcare is to say that I don’t have cancer of this or that I have cancer and it happens to be in this area of my body.

And that’s quite analogous to what we’re talking about in biological dentistry. So, Claudia, let’s start out by this because people are very interested in understanding this. But let’s start out with you. Can you tell us a little bit about yourself and your background and what got you into biological dentistry? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, this is very interesting because I enroll dentistry 30 years ago. Okay. University of Chile. And then I started, well, my career and during the years of the university, I really wasn’t that convinced that I was doing, you know, because I saw a lot of kind of different materials and Procedures that they were not aligned with my conviction.

So I started to early stages to start seeking for more, more than the. The doctors in the university were teaching me. You know, I wanted to know more why you didn’t quite well turn to my mind, you know, to put some metals in the mouth that are going to live with within you 24, seven, you know. So I started kind of thinking too much about this. And then when I graduated at early ages, at 17 years old, I. I enrolled dentistry, 17 years old, and I graduated when I was 23. And I decided to start a different path.

Okay. I grew up in Chile. Now I’m in Italy right now, in Florence. But I grew up in Chile and I studied a lot of masters and diplomats in United States. But the important thing is that at early stages, when I was at the university in my third year, I started to feel very sick, okay? Like brain fog and even hair loose. So I said to myself, what’s happening here? I didn’t realize until after, you know, that what it was happening. We were doing amalgams, okay. Number one, we were dealing with mercury directly. You know, we were doing root canals.

We were doing. Putting in the mouth of the patients a lot of metals, okay, and trimming these metals. So all this pollution was coming into myself, into all of us, you know. Right. So I decided to start like studying about what is happening to me. What about these materials? What is this mercury that they say that is not toxic, it might be hurting me, you know. So this stage, I started like seeking for more, more information and, well, I went to the States afterwards, to the University of Colorado. I studied like two years over there. I stayed in Denver, in Cherry Creek area, the University of Colorado.

I studied like a little diplomat over there. And I really start thinking, I want more, you know, I. I want answers. I am not convinced of what I’m doing. So that’s my path that started there. I went back to Chile and I wasn’t convinced at all, Lisa, of what I was doing, really. It was like, something is wrong. I. I had this intuition, you know, in my gas that it was saying, claudia, you’re not doing. This is not a career for you. First of all, you know, I said, this is not for you. There is something happening because you’re seeking.

You are getting sick, you know, with my hair, with all my brain fog, and I couldn’t get through, you know, and that was for many, many years that I was like that. And after a period of time, I found. Well, I met a girl and she told me, Claudia you’re doing something really bad. You shouldn’t be removing amalgams, okay? Because the amalgams have the feelings that we put in the mouth in. They have 50% of mercury, Lisa. That’s extraordinary. That’s extraordinary that they have that. But let’s, let’s start in with. Let’s go back to a little bit, what you’re saying, first of all, because your journey really started out by saying that here you are, first of all, extremely young and should be in your healthiest time of your life.

You were experiencing health issues that should not have happened, and you were wise enough to correlate it to the things that you were working with, which is very good. So you were, as we say on this channel, questioning the narrative of the materials that they were asking you to use in this, in this thing. And that’s very, very interesting. So you’re young and you’re healthy, and you’re starting to question. But you’re right. So you’re saying, why am I doing this if I’m getting sick? How can, how can we do that? So what did this woman say to you? What.

At the very beginning, you know, I didn’t even realize that it was due to that. You know, I, I linked the pots, you know, all the, the information after, when I, I was like, maybe in my 28, you know, when I started to really think about that I was doing something wrong in dentistry, you know. But then this woman, she’s a friend of mine, she told me, claudia, don’t remove any more mercury, don’t remove any more amalgams because you are getting intoxicated. So I said, why? Nobody in the university has told me this, you know, never, ever, that I was going to be intoxicated by removing an amalgam.

So I started there, start my real, real journey because I contacted Tom McGuire from United States, and he’s very famous about mercury issues, Tom McGuire. And I called him once and I said, I’m from Chile, I’m a dentist, and I’m very curious about what I’m doing. I am not convinced about what I’m doing in the mouth of my patients, putting in mercury. Can you tell me about this? And he had a lot of experience already. You know, he had books, launched, many books about mercury, about amalgams. And he said to me, claudia, I am in la.

Can you come here? And I said, well, I’m in Chile. I’m not going to come to you, but why don’t you contact me, someone in New York? Because I’m going to go to New York new next month. And then there started my real journey. Okay. Because in that trip I met Jerry Guradola. Yeah. He’s in New York. And he invited me to his office and I started seeing what he was doing over there. And he was removing the amalgams in a very special way. Okay. And I say why I haven’t been taught about this at the university.

You know, this is very interesting, why he’s doing this procedure and what about the university? Nobody has told me about this. And then he invited me to a meeting in Puerto Rico. I wasn’t supposed to be there in Puerto Rico. And he invited me, he said, no, let’s go, let’s get the plane. And we have to. You have to meet a lot of people that are going to be wide opening your eyes. Okay. Then I went to Puerto Rico and then that was my first meeting in iomt. This is the IOMT as well. IOMT is the International Academy of Oral Medicine and Toxicology.

Okay. This is the most important academy in the world for biological dentistry. Okay. It’s gathering all the dentists worldwide that they are seeking for answers. And more and more they want to really change dentistry. This is the goal all, all of us, you know, change dentistry. Wow. So that’s interesting. So your journey really started off with this issue with the mercury amalgam that was causing you issues and then you were challenging it and then you met all these people who were doing it. So let’s take a little step back here and just say, okay, what’s the history of the amalgam? Because I think it came out in the mid to early 1800s where it was first done through Germany, is that correct? And it was brought into the United States.

Yeah, that was in Europe, of course. And they, there was these people that they started doing these amalgams, you know, and they brought it into New York afterwards. Okay. And they were really the first war of amalgams because they. It was a really important deal with. Issue with the. A society of dental surgeons in United States. Okay. And well, it started really there that people, they were cheap, it was easy to use for cavities and people started using it and it was spreading all over the world after a period. But there was a whole bunch of group of people that was against this mercury amalgam feelings.

And it has happened already 200 years almost from that beginning of this amalgam. And finally, finally what happened now we won the third world. That is, it’s amazing. I’m very. No, this is really about it share this because it’s very excited about it because I’ve been in, in Minamata Convention in the United nations for so many years fighting against amalgams, you know, with Anita Tibao. Okay. You have met her, right? Anita Dibao. We met when I was in Florence last time with you. Yes, right, absolutely. So we’ve been there a lot of times in. In Minamata in Switzerland, trying to see why the only element or product that it was with that had mercury, it wasn’t being banned.

Okay. All the other products were like bending down, facing down, facing down, but not amalia. So. Well, to make the story short, we finally made it this year, last year in Minamata Convention, because in nine more years, mercury, amalgam, mercury are going to be history. Okay. They already put the law out there that no more amalgams can be done in the world. Okay. Wow, this is really important. So after that nine years, so now people are understanding the associations because in honesty, the amalgam situation actually split the dental associations from the original dental association in the US to the new one, because there was such contrast in the opinion of these amalgams.

So that’s really important. But let’s go. We’ll go back back to the amalgams again. But let’s go back into where we were about your history and about what you were doing and how we. You got into biological dentistry because you, you went in through this, and so it was your personal journey. And as you went through this, you started to learn about what was good and what was not good for your body, and you realized it was part of your whole body. So let’s go back and let’s define what biological dentistry is and how it differs from the traditional dentistry that we’ve kind of grown up with and are trying to fight against now.

Well, Lisa, actually, biological dentistry, we have nothing like in the university, is not in the programs. Not yet. Okay. No, yet. Okay. But I started seeking information from the masters. Okay. In those times, 15 years ago, like getting information from Jericho then from Anita introduced me to a lot of people that they were in the field for many years from. I’m telling you, 1980. 1984, since the establishment of the Academy IOMT. Okay. But then in order to become a real biological dentist now, you have to really do a lot of chapters in different countries. You have to have the fortune to get in touch with the people that have studied a lot biological dentistry already.

Because there is not a program. Not yet. Not yet. Even though there are some doctors that are teaching and we are organizing everything already for teaching biological dentistry. Because I started with mercury amalgams. Okay. Was one little chapter of all biological dentistry that was only the tip of the iceberg, let’s put it that way, you know, and I started to investigate. And then you said, oh, my God, there is much, much more. Yeah, I’m doing amalgams. And then what about root canals? What about cavitations? You know, that they’re about fluoride. What about, what about fluoride? What about the metals? What about feelings with the bpa, you know, plastics in the mouth? So then I started like getting all the information combined and saying, okay, I’m going to take this path and I’m going to promise to do it 100%.

Okay. Yeah. But let’s go through the journey of your book, because I thought this was so beautiful. So the name of your book is you can heal your mouth. And this was beautifully done. So I had an opportunity to read the book as you were putting it out there in English, because I was feel very excited with it. And what I thought was really beautiful about it was, is that you shared a personal journey about how you went through your health issues, as you said, articulated here in your dental years in dentist school, and how you went in and you fixed your mouth.

And I thought this was such a beautiful for journey. And I really resonated with that. I was like, oh, wow. Because it wasn’t just saying, well, we don’t like the mercury, we don’t like the fluoride, we don’t like this material, we don’t like that material. Material. You basically said you went back into your cell and analyzed and assessed yourself and gave yourself a protocol to heal, and you healed yourself because you’re one of the healthiest, most beautiful women I know. And what was beautiful is, is that when I looked, when I read that, I said, oh, my God, I’m healthy, I’m strong.

I have all these things in life that are great, but I fail in oral health. I have had this thing or that thing, and, and as you know, because I. I came to you for the first time with that. And I think so many people identify with the I’m healthy, but this is the problem. So it’s a beautiful journey that you went through. So maybe want to explain how that became sort of the basis of your book and why we are all failing oral health. Okay. Well, I can tell you that 15 years ago, when I decided to take this path, I started investigating about myself.

You know, that the very first patient was Myself, why I have these, why this chronic fatigue, Why I have this in those times, like hair loss, you know, and like some joint pain in the joints, you know? So, well, I. I went to a lot of IOMT meetings. I became member, and now I am the ambassador for. For Italy and for Chile as well. But there I started to study a lot of things, you know, and gather information from all the masters, as I told you before. And then I said, okay, it’s needed. It’s time for me to detoxify.

Okay? I have mercury in my body. I have played with mercury in third year of the university for. In fifth, for three years. We were playing with mercury, you know, touching the mercury, inhalating the vapors and everything, removing the amalgams like this. So I decided to detoxify myself. I started with a lot of different protocols, but before that, I measure my mercury in my body, okay. With the quicksilver, Chris Shade. He’s very important and famous in United States for measuring the mercury in the body. And I did that and I started doing different, very different protocols.

And I’ve been doing it for many, many, many, many years already. Lisa, because mercury, it doesn’t go away that easy. Mercury can be in your body, in your brain for 30 years, okay? So it’s not simple to detoxify mercury from your body. So I started doing this and that and that. And then in a meeting, I met this brilliant doctor, PhD from the University of Kentucky, Boyd Haley. Okay. And he. I started knowing more about what he was bringing to the table. A product that I was going to heal the world. Okay. That it was. It was promising to do the cleaning of the mercury in all the patients worldwide.

It’s called mbmi, this product, and I started taking it. Okay. He personally gave me this product in Brazil in a meeting, and I started taking it for many months. And since I started taking this product, I started feeling better, much better, okay. And I quit using the product and I started taking the. Well, doing a very healthy lifestyle. It changed my mind completely. Okay. I do a lot of sports. I eat very healthy, and I use different protocols of detoxification all the time. All the time. To raise my glutathione, to get a lot of vitamins in order to detoxify from all the toxins.

Yeah. That we have in the mouth, especially dentists. We are the most inclinated professions in the world, you know, professionals. Wow, that’s interesting. Very inclinated. So that’s why I started that path. And then that was about mercury. And then I Realized that in my 18, 20 years, I removed my wisdom teeth. Okay? That’s another being, another thing. Wisdom teeth. Yes, yes, yes, I removed my wisdom teeth. No protection at all. I mean, just the normal extraction. And then I studied a lot about cavitations with John Lechner, and I realized that I had cavitations in my mouth, you know, where I.

One, one time I had these molars. So I went to. To Germany and I did the cleaning of my cavitations as well. So first of all, I did my. My amalgam. Well, the amalgams that I had when I was. How many did you have? I removed them just like that, Lisa. I didn’t. I didn’t put any protection, and the dentist in Chile didn’t give me any protection at all. You know, so I removed them before my wedding, just like that. So that’s why I was very, very inclinated with the mercury. Okay. But then I went to the calculation.

So that was my second thing, you know, and then changing my feelings with plastic. Those are the feelings, the white feelings. Because the story doesn’t finish there, you know, it would be so. Oh, my. Yeah, no, no, you’re just. I mean, this is why we’re. We’re failing. And all of this, these materials that you keep. This is incredible story. Yeah, it’s incredible. This is not everything, you know, because you have to go to feelings, white feelings also that they have bpa. They are bgma, this disruptor, hormone disruptor. So it’s very bad for women’s. Because it’s aimetisando in Spanish, the hormones.

So, you know, so it’s so bad to have them in your mouth. So this is another call for dentists not to use BPA materials. Microplastic. These are the forever chemicals that are in your mouth. So let’s go back. This is like, interesting. So you’re. You’re layering and layering and you’re saying, here’s everything that you went through, which is, first of all, the fact that you are sharing this journey is such an incredible enlightenment for everybody, because I know that it truly sparked me when I listened to it. I said, oh my gosh, I’m not alone. I didn’t just make these mistakes myself self.

It was like it was the industry about what they were saying were the normal protocols for health. So you had the amalgams taken out and then you found a detoxifying thing. Because I want to go back to this mdmt. Is that what you said? Because I want. I want people to know what that is. Then you have the wisdom teeth taken out, which now we know. Wow, that’s. You know, I had that at the very. I was like, wow, why did I. I feel so bad. Why did I do that? And then you have these other feelings that were in your mouth because everybody’s telling you different materials.

And then you’re saying all of these things add up to disruptions and just, Just things in your mouth that are toxins. And that is what you’re saying in your mouth. You’re creating the source of where we put nutrition as the most toxic area of our bodies. And how can we fight against it? That’s a pity. But. Well, this is. Well, but one thing that I wanted to tell you, it’s important because when I got married, I got. Removed my amalgams just like that. You know, I told you before and I did. There is. Everybody right now is removing their amalgams without protection.

This is so insane. You know, this is really, really one of the most important things that dentists should be aware of right now. Let’s go through what the right thing is, because there’s this protocol called smart, right? And you’ve do. Because you, you, you got. You removed three amalgams from my mouth, which I had. Didn’t even know I had amalgams. And now people are very interested in this. Can you go through what that protocol is? And because I know you had me take vitamins and, and get my body ready to fight against toxicity. So let’s go through.

How do you recommend this and what the right protocol is to remove. This is the protocol, the most advanced protocol worldwide that is called SMART SAFE Mercury amalgam removal technique. SMART protocol. Okay. This is developed by iomt, ibdm, the other academy of biological dentists, also has another protocol that is called the protocol. Okay? And Blanche, Groovy also, yo. But at the very end, all these protocols. The importance of the protocols are to remove the amalgams in a very safe way for the patient, for the assistant and for us. Okay? Right, Right. Because you were wearing protective gear as you removed the amalgams.

Removed the amalgams. We need to protect the patient completely. Okay. Really isolate the tooth. Okay. And take care of the environment. We have a lot of equipment in order to do that. So to become a smart dentist, you have to do a lot of courses, mini courses in IOMT or in ibdm, the other academy. And then you have to equip your clinic. Okay. You have to be careful with environment. Okay. For them. Because once we remove the amalgams where are those amalgams going? Okay, so these are the amalgam separators that we have to have. Very important.

And remove and get. Get the patient very protected for the inhalation of the mercury. The vapors. Yeah, those are the toxic, you know, the vapors of the mercury, because once you. They go inside, they go directly to the lungs and to the brain. Yeah. Okay. So this is why this smart protocol is very important to do it. Every dentist that are removing amalgams should be doing this protocol or some other one, but they should be doing it. Okay. And yeah, we have a real, real big problem now going on worldwide about this, because we are not enough.

We are 4% of dentists worldwide, only 4. Okay. They’re trained to do this. We are few. So that’s the big call now, is to train dentists to. Interesting. Yeah, yeah. New generation of dentists to do this and more, you know, to become 100 biological. That’s our goal. Wow. This is. This is very, very important. So. So go through this. Like, how does someone find a biological dentist? How do we. How do you get in there? And like. Well, first of all, let’s start. Let me take a step back. You told me some stories about how, when we were talking about removing my amalgams, how it really fundamentally shifts your health.

Can you tell some stories about patients you’ve had who have removed their amalgams, who didn’t necessarily believe that it would be a big difference, that it would change their health because it changed your health. So just talk about why this. Why this really makes sense written in my book, you know, a lot of the evidence, you know, of real patients that, yes, were. They were healed, you know, by doing real biological dentistry. Okay, but let’s start for. In Chile, I opened the first biological dental clinic. Okay. I’m talking about 15 years ago when I started actually with this movement, you know, with this philosophy.

And I started seeing all the patients that I was removing, the amalgams, how they were getting better. Some of them very, very quick. And some of them. Some of them with the timing, you know, but a lot of patients were getting. Getting rid of brain fog. That’s very important. Chronic fatigue or the issues about joints. Okay. A lot of patients. But then I say why there is a percentage of patients that don’t get better. Okay, so why they don’t get better? And there started my journey to seek for more information. And there my abanico. How do you say that? Abanico in English, Lisa Avenue.

Well, like. Like path. What pathway Pathway, you start seeing some other procedures in there. I understood that not only amalgams is biological, dentistry is more than amalgams. So I said, why I have a patient once in wheelchair, you know, And I say, what happened with this patient? And then with timing, I started, you know, analyzing and putting all the dots together. And this one patient had a lot of root canals, okay? And palpitations and feelings with bba. So these patients need to do a really dental revision that is called. This is very important what I’m telling you now, okay? But it’s not everything about amalgams.

Amalgams is a percentage, very important. But then you have to go and seek for the added toxins, the other sources of toxins in the mouth. One of them important one is root canal treated teeth, you know. Now let’s go into that because I think this is really important, Claudia, what you’re talking about, because so it’s really important that if you’re going to remove your amalgams, which you should, and you’ve been very careful, clear with me about that, that you need to do it in this smart technique or another technique where you’re protected. But the root canal, and this is something that modern dentistry is like.

It’s the, you know what, we’ll save the tooth and it’s great. And, and then you have all these toxins. So tell us what the root canal is and what’s the root of the problem with the root canal? Well, the root canals, of course, they are the debitalization of the teeth. You know, when you have pain because the pulp is inflammated, you have to open the tooth, you know, to avoid the, all the vapors that are being produced by the, the microorganisms inside the tooth. Okay? So that’s why I would say 70% of the root canal treated teeth are done because of that, because of pain, okay? Because when the cardia, the infection goes deep, you have to open the tooth and then clean the canals inside, okay? And then fill it with different products.

But the problem is that we didn’t know that they were. We were fixing the problem and then we were putting back another problem, okay? Because there was what a root can ask. You know, you are cleaning, really cleaning, deep cleaning this tooth and all the roots and all the, the canal and taking the nerve and everything. Well, there are a lot of dentists out there that are doing a good job. A good job, I say, because they’re not doing it 100. It’s impossible. Now with the knowledge that we have now, in the research to clean a tooth completely 100 because we have thousands of lateral canals, you know, that they cannot be cleaned.

And the microorganisms are going to live there forever with you. So essentially, you’re closing it off. When you clean it, you fix it, you close it, and then you enclose these microorganisms that you couldn’t clean out. Is that what you’re saying? Of course. You cannot take them away. And. But this is the other point important, Lisa, because these microorganisms can go into the bloodstream, okay. And actually they do. The toxins and the microorganisms go into the bloodstream, and there you don’t know where they can go. So have a lot of research that evidence, scientific evidence that’s showing us this today.

Okay? Wow. There’s a lot of chronic disease that are due to this. Once you remove a root canal and you clean the bone properly, the patient can heal of whatever illness they can have, you know. So let’s go back into this because I think it’s really important. I just want to confirm what I’m hearing you say, which is that the root canal is a cleaning, but then it’s also a sealing. You seal off the cavity, and that’s where everything gets locked in. So when you undo a root canal, you’re opening it back up. And. And what do you.

Do you remove the tooth or what? What happens when you reverse. What do you mean? Your question is when you undo a root canal. When you undo a root canal. Exactly. Oh, okay. Undo. Well, there’s no way, never, ever to clean 100 the root canal. No one dentist in the world can really clean the inside of the root completely. 100. And we have seen it, okay. Already. And Western Price, well, I’m talking about 1900s, okay, studied this very accurately. And he saw a lot of. A lot of. He did a lot of research about this with rats.

Okay. Normal animal study that we’ve started. That’s unfortunately. But it’s like that. So they were removing a teeth from infected teeth from the body of people, you know, and they were placing them in the rats. And they were seeing that within weeks or month, you know, they were developing the same disease that the origin where the tooth was coming from. Wow. So those information were like, nobody talks for many years about this. What Western Price did, he did a lot, a lot, you know, for dentistry. So now we are taking all that information, we are getting all the scientific evidence with a new investigations, and we are putting all the dots together and saying root canals Are toxic.

Are toxic. Yes. 100. Yes. Okay, so. But, well, we have a problem here, Lisa, because it’s not to decide what to do when you have pain, when you do need to do a root canal to treat that one patient. And okay, you put it this way. Or I extract the tooth. Okay. Or I do a root canal and see what happens with that one patient in the years. Okay. Because it’s not beautiful to extract a tooth, you know, and where you’re going to live, there maybe. Yeah. An implant and there we have to go to another subject important about implants.

Okay. This is very heavy. We can be talking about forever here, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. To decide what to do with no teeth in the mouth. Okay. That’s another topic that we can have another discussion some other day. Another day. Exactly. Wow. Another. Another conversation about only this. But let’s go back to root canals. What do we do? What I do if I have an 18 year old girl, pain or injury in one tooth in front of your mouth here? Of course, what are we going to do? Extract the tooth or do a root canal? Okay.

You know, that was. It has been my deepest and profound question myself that I put myself, what am I going to do? Because all biological dentists are saying no root canals cannot be performed because they’re going to be toxic, is going to be the source of origin of a lot of diseases and pathologies and so on. But what do we do with this kind of cases, you know? Yeah, yeah. So you’re saying like you, we would put a young woman who would. Her whole life is ahead of her, would take away everything of her, you know, her mouth and that would be really, really detrimental to her psychological well being as well as her, as her health.

That’s very interesting. So, yeah, you’re right. These are very complex concepts. So you’ve been saying the root canals generally are associated with great pain. Are there other causes or reasons that root canals are performed? You said root canals associated with pain. Yeah, you said that most, you said that most of it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. Are there other reasons that you would reckon that root canals are being performed? Yeah, but that in, in some of the cases they are made because cavity is deep, you know, so they say. Many doctors say, okay, this cavity is very deep.

So let’s do the root canal before, before we have symptoms. Okay. So they go and drill and do the root canal to avoid a future pain. But instead of protecting that pulp and putting different materials that can stimulate the growing of the, the pulp of the dentin okay. And the protection of the pulp. But anyways, there is another situation where root canals are being performed is for prosthetics purposes, to put a crown. Okay. Because maybe you have a little tooth remaining. Okay. And you need to put a crown, so you need the retention. So a lot of doctors do the root canal only for that reason.

Okay. So in order to. To have a good retention for a crown too. Oh, wow. So it’s. But it’s really very toxic. So what are the kinds of chronic diseases that are associated with root canals? All kind of disease, because we don’t know. The microorganisms can be spread in the body, in the heart, in the lungs, in the joints, in the liver, in the. Right. In even intestinal, you know, in your guts. So all kind of chronic disease can be due to these root canals. You know, it’s like mercury, Lisa. It’s like you cannot say, okay, I have mercury.

So it’s due to this. Is due to that. You know, actually what I’m doing with my patient is cleaning the mouth completely, doing a full dental revision. Because you are going to say, okay, all the illnesses have. Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, they have an origin. Yeah. This lack of something, or you have an excess of something, put it that way, a lot or excess. So the lack of vitamins, micro, the minerals, a lot of oligo elements that you can be lacking in your body, that is going to make the disease or you have a nexus of what toxins have you been harming him? Yeah, this is.

This is fascinating. Yeah, this is fascinating because what you’re saying here is, is that all of these things that were used in dentistry to supposedly heal our teeth or keep our teeth are actually the things that are building up against us. And then even when we try to clean them with this root canal idea, we actually trap in more toxins into our body. So this is a quite a complex sort of series of things. But you just said something, I think that’s really important that I think is the core thesis of your book and what I got out of your journey that you talked about in your book, which is that you are on a process, the Italian version, it’s on Amazon, right? It’s on Amazon.

Yeah, yeah, in Amazon. And this is the book in English. Yeah, it’s wonderful. I have it. It’s wonderful. It’s really worth reading. But you go into. You go into the journey and you did the self assessment and an entire revamping of your oral health and you are now a very, very healthy person. Is. Is that what you’re recommending for most people right now is to reevaluate and reassess their health from the mouth? Is that what you’re saying? I would say it is mandatory. Okay, it is mandatory to start in the mouth because maybe you can have people with a lot of amalgams.

They go around and they say, I’m okay. I’m okay. Yeah, you’re okay. But maybe you could be much, much better without your amalgams. Okay, maybe. I have a lot of patients coming here in my clinic, and they say, oh, I have this amalgam, but I’m okay. I don’t have nothing. No, no, but I. I’m always tired. I cannot lose weight. I. I have sometimes brain fog, but I’m okay. Yeah, yeah, but I’m okay. No, I’m okay. Isn’t that the way we’re supposed to be? Brain fog tired all the time? Right. What if I remove your amalgams in the.

In the proper way? What it would happen with you to lower that quantity of heavy metal mercury in your body? And let’s see what it could happen after that. You know, what if we go deep and see and understand. What if you have root canals or if you have cavitations? That. That’s another. Another chapter, a very important chapter about cavitations. So that’s why my goal now I have arrived to a vision and holistic vision and very profound way of thinking in dentistry that we really need to take care of oral cavity. We really need to do a dental.

Full dental revision. Full dental revision means to undo what dentists have done, you know, to undo. Right. Okay. And this is interesting, this is the interesting part, because, you know, when you look at. By my understanding of biological dentistry is that it is the holistic approach. Approach to caring for your body through your oral cavity, knowing that we are integrated, we’re not separate. Mouth isn’t separate from the rest of us. It creates our entire. Our. Our entire integral health. And this is really important because what you’re saying here is, is that we’ve got to go back and assess all of those because people who are, you know, at least 30 and older have had all of these things done to them through their dental history and what was considered good oral care, and we suffer for it.

I think you’re right. There’s got to be a plan. So. So, I mean, Claudia, we’re getting sort of toward the end of this, this discussion, and I’m sure we can have another one if you’re, if you’re open to that. Is that you are saying that we have to reassess what we have. We’ve got the key things that layer upon each other, the mercury amalgams, the root canals which are at the root of many things. We have cavitations, we have other implant, we have other toxins, materials for cavities that were put into our body. So how can someone go about doing this assessment and finding someone who has some of the skill base that you have? But what do you mean? How do you find someone to.

How about you find a, a dentist, a biological dentist that can help exactly what you’re talking about. Of. Okay, okay, okay. Well, there is, there, there are many. We are, as I told you before, 4% of dentistry now are biological dentists. And we are getting trained, going to the academy, visiting, you know, being in touch, all of us together discussing cases among all that, all, all the, the biological dentists that exist. As I told you before, there is not a university, there is not like a career about biological dentistry right now. Not course, of course that set up for this.

It’s going to happen soon. We are, we are working on it. Okay, we’re working on it. But in the meantime, you can go to iomt, ibdm and there’s a list of doctors that are performing biological dentistry worldwide in different countries. Okay. But there you have to go and understand how many years they have been doing this and are they really doing 100 biological dentistry? You know, so. Yeah, well, I have, I do consultations online. A lot of patients from all over the world. Okay. And some people, they cannot come, you know, here to Milano, to Florence, where I am based now in Italy.

So I try to recommend the most skillful dentist ethic dentist, knowledgeable dentist, consciousness dentist that I know exactly. In the area. Yeah. And I do have a list of them, of course, you know. Yeah. And I know how they’re working and what the procedures they’re doing and how they take care of their patients. So now in that global network of dentists, biological dentists doing this, and I know exactly who are they and they are doing a good dentistry now. Well, that’s wonderful. I think that’s really important. And we should put, I’ll put some of the links down of those associations and for your link on there.

And it’s really important. So I mean, this is a great overview, Claudia, on the importance of biological dentistry, the meaning of biological dentistry, and the layering of all the things that were done to us in the effort to be healthy that actually turned out to be the opposite of what they were trying to do in the long term. So, Claudia, give. And thank you so much for your time. Is there one last thing that you’d like to say before we close for the session? Yeah, well, this is something, something very important that we missed, Lisa. Ah, okay.

Very important. Implants. Yes. Okay, so let’s have a quick, quick discussion. Talk to me about implants. Yes, well, it can be very short and again, we can discuss it another conversation. You know, let’s start it here and then we’ll do a follow up on it because I think this is very important because titanium implants are. Well, we are not performing titanium implants because they, we know already that they do a lot of damage in the body as well. You know, corrosion, microparticles, they migrate, they go elsewhere. Galvanoplastia, galvanoplastic, you know, so we don’t do titanium implants at all.

The true biological dentists don’t perform by titanium implants. And what do we do now? Yeah, what do you do? Have a patient without teeth, you know. So what is next? What is next? Science is coming very rapidly with the stem cells, you know, because now I would say, okay, let’s go to zirconium implants. It’s more biocompatible. Absolutely. Okay. But anyways, we are seeing not 100% safety in Zirconian implants. Okay. So that’s why the, the question, the question that we are trying to solve now is what are we going to do with a patient when you need to extract the truth? What are we going to put there? A removable appliance? Well, you have to evaluate that.

And we need to do it next to the patient and take decisions, important decisions. Because a removable appliance, it is better than being sick. Okay, absolutely. But. Well, that’s why every patient is a world. And we need to take decisions together and see the age of the patient, especially in young generations. How are we going to treat? And that’s why in the next years, what I would really love to do in the next 10 years is to do prevention, 100% prevention, prevention. And not to deal with all these toxins anymore, you know, because I’ve been dealing, not remediating.

I have removed hundreds, hundreds, hundreds of amalgams. And that’s not good for me either, you know, because even though you’re doing it safely, it’s protocol is safe, but it’s not hundred percent safe. There’s always something going on there, you know, the vapors. And I’m the one in front of the Patients every single day, you know, so that’s why my goal is not to perform anymore. This. Right, right. To get people to stop doing it so they do it. I think that’s really, really important. But I think you mentioned something, the first thing you mentioned was that there’s stem cells, but there’s also this new research that we’ve been hearing a lot about out of the University of South Korea about regrowing teeth.

We’re hearing about there’s actually a layer underneath that we can grow, regrow teeth. And then you mentioned a really important thing. It’s like extraction of a tooth. It’s like really comes down to what is the cause of that. And I know one of the other things. And so we do have to have a follow up conversation because the other thing is, is the teeth grinding that, you know, you. That’s another huge area. So I know I didn’t think that we could cover everything in this one conversation. So there’s so much more to cover. But there’s new, new approaches and things that we’re learning about.

But the grinding of the teeth impact, sort of cracking of teeth and we’re seeing a lot more of that. We’re seeing these patterns. So I think it’s really important. You’re right. So it’s implants. So essentially what you’re saying is that everything we put into our body has the potential to be toxic if it’s not made from our creator, from, from the universe. Exactly. Yeah, that’s it. Yeah, that’s the conclusion. And if we can prevent and get us into that healthy, which is how do we do that in our, in our lives so we don’t have these issues, that’s going to be the most important thing.

But let’s do that, let’s. Claudia, let’s have a follow up on this because I think this is a first, first discussion of a really important topic and maybe we can even have sort of a regular kind of conversation as you are learning more every day and doing more with patients and helping create this new area of biological dentistry. Whenever. And thank you so much, Lisa, for being involved in this because this is people like you, you know, that putting all the people together and doing this network. This is very amazing because we really need people like you to help, you know, the dentists and the community to get seen out there.

It’s very important, you know. My pleasure and I think it’s great we’re going to be sharing this around to all our different places. And please, please, everybody here who’s listening Because I know you’ve been asking for this discussion, and this is just the beginning. Share this with people because I think. I think so many of us feel like we fail in oral health. And as we can see here, it’s sort of mission critical to our whole body. And it’s an analogy to being separate in our spiritual growth. And it is really important to share this information so people can realize, not that you did anything wrong.

Let’s now fix and move on and do it better for the next generation. So this is really good. So, Claudia, thank you so much. Let’s everybody, let’s put your book up one more time. This is listen next. Yeah, that’s so good that we’re finishing now because I’m here in Ponte Vecchio, you know, and there is a canyon coming here because there is a. A strike now or whatever coming now. So it’s going to be a lot of noise. A lot of noise. Okay, well, mama me. This is. This is. This is it. But Claudia, thank you.

So you’re touching. Whatever you need from me, I’m here. Okay? All right. Thank you. This is Lisa from Question the Narrative, thanking you, Claudia, for your help and all that. You do. Have a great day, everybody. Thank you. Bye, Lisa.
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