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Enough talking. Today we have Mystic Mark with us. He is a regular podcaster with me. We've done probably close to 100 episodes, I think, at this point, probably close to that, and most of those are on the patreon, so if you want to check that out. Patreon. com Myfamily thinks I'm crazy or the One on One podcast, so check that out. And what's up, Mark? How you been, bro? Great. 

I don't remember what was the last Illuminati confirmed? Like, episode 19 or something? Well, like, on the public feed? Yeah, I think it was 19. That one never aired, so we at least have at least 36 altogether because there was a patreon for each free episode we put out, and then there were more than that. Last time I counted was, like, over 50, bro. Okay, well, then let's just go with 100. 

Let's just round it up to 100. But I'm here. I'm ready to roll. I'm happy to be on the Juan on Juan podcast. Now that affirmative action is over, I got to help you out the best I can, Juan. I'm your white podcaster friend, so I got to do what I can. And, yeah, here we are. Yeah, it's the Juan to Juan podcast, as Triple E likes to say, right? Yeah. 

Juan to juan. Tripoli. Yeah, he's still learning his ABCs somehow, but that's okay. He's very smart in other ways. Yeah. Shout out to Tripoli. So what's up, dude? What have you been up to as of lately? I know last time you and I talked on, you were always delving into skull and bones. I don't know, maybe we'll talk about that. Or you're always into the history of Haven, which, as being in Florida, I've always told people to really look around. 

Right. Dive locally into the lore of wherever you are. And you've done that. I've done that. Have you stumbled across any new intriguing finds as of lately? Yeah, it's actually very interesting because ten months ago, I joined you on this show to talk about skeleton bones, and in the meantime, I made Scene Edition Three, which deals with just my findings of walking around New Haven. I titled it Aesthetic in Strange New Haven. 

And one thing that just hit me, like, a couple of days ago, and I'm glad we're doing this now. On the COVID page of the scene, I show sort of bird's eye view of New Haven, the layout, and I highlighted the nine square grid at the center. That's how New Haven was formed and built around this nine square grid in the center. And only a few weeks ago, it dawned on, hmm, maybe I should go on Google Earth and measure the perimeter of this square and go figure. 

Juan, do you want to guess what number jumped out at me as the perimeter of this square? You want to take a wild guess? A number associated with skull and bones. I know it's not 33. It's close. I know they have a number, but I can't remember it. So it's 3322 meters. Okay. That's the perimeter of the New Haven Square and all nine squares. Right. And 322 is Skull and Bones's special number. 

Right. So you have the 33 and the 322 right there in that number. But I just thought, what are the odds of all the numbers that it's 3322? I mean, three, what is the perimeter of the nine square grid that 322 skull and Bones is located within? And that's when you do the perimeter hugging the sidewalks. So if you were to measure the perimeter in the center of the street, that outside perimeter for those four streets, it would be a little different. 

But I played around with measuring it, and I found that 332 number when I hugged the lines directly against the interior sidewalks of that nine square grid, the perimeter of it. And, yeah, it was just kind of baffling. I was expecting something like that, in a way, but it should have come up sooner, because in my PDF, I kind of explain a lot about the nine square grid and why they chose it, and for people wondering, why meters? Well, the guy who surveyed the nine square grid was trained at Cambridge, so I don't know if they were using meters back then. 

I think England uses feet as well as the United States, but I just thought meters was European for some reason. Now that I'm saying it out loud, I'm pretty sure that England uses the metric system like the United States. I could be wrong about that. But either way, I think we're the only ones that use the system that everyone right. Inches, feet, then, yeah. My supposition is correct that the English person would have used meters and not feet or rods. 

Rather. I think actually that's what it was. It was think. I think Rome created rods, and England carried that measurement on until meters came about. The standardization of the metric system, terribly boring stuff. But what the point I'm getting at is that you can kind of measure anything with a certain number system and get a desired result. Does that make sense? Depending on what measurement system you're using, you can kind of get closer to what you're aiming for. 

So I don't know, maybe this is just like pareidolia on my part where I'm just kind of seeing something that I'm already anticipating to see by using meters rather than feet or rods or whatever, but I just found it kind of stupendous nonetheless that of all the numbers, this number appeared when I measured the perimeter in meters. Yeah. No, I don't think that it might be a sort of synchronicity. 

Right. Because who else do you know that's measured out the perimeter of this area and has come up with that number? In your opinion, Mark, why do you feel they use these numbers? Do you have your own idea or hypothesis as to why they resonate with these numbers? I don't have my own hypothesis particularly. I've heard multiple different theories on why 322 is skull and Bones is like, special number. 

The one that stuck in my head is 1832 is the year that they were founded. And according to the lore, skull and Bones is a second iteration of a German secret society. So by the numbering in Europe, they would have put the date 32, as in the year and then two to signify that it was the second chapter. Obviously, Wikipedia there says that it's the only chapter, but that's incorrect. 

But anyways, why 322? Some people think it has to do with this guy from Greece who was named Demotshenes and why there's a whole sort of lore with that character. I don't particularly buy into that theories. It's not readily available. Here you go. Yeah. Number. Yeah. Demothenes. So this was okay the year of his death. Right. Other than him being like a lawyer, I don't particularly see that much overlap in his life and the practices of Skull and Bones. 

If anything, that's a misdirection for the people like us looking into this. Because every other piece of evidence seems to point to that last sentence in this paragraph here or this grouping here. One legend is that the numbers in the secret society's emblem represent founded in 32 2nd corpse, referring to it as a first corpse in an unknown German university. And that word, too, bro corpse. That's such a weird word. 

And I was on Old World Florida the other night. We kind of broke that down because the corpse of discovery was who Henry B. Plant has sent in to the Everglades to discover stuff, I guess. Right. And it's like, it's corpse. Some people would say core, but it's corpse and it's just a funny word. Right. 30 corporation. That's where that comes from. Corpse corporal in the army corporal experience. 

Yeah, there's a ton there. Etymologically speaking, I think skull and Bones, you kind of hit it right on the nose when you're talking about corpses. Right. Skeletons are implied dead bodies. Right. So, yeah, there's this whole underground symbology that you can't get away from with Skull and Bones. So it's no accident that that's what the Wikipedia article says, I'm sure. But when it comes to the city itself, I wondered, okay, are there other examples of these nine square grids in other places? Right. 

And find many. But what I did find is that the Temple of Solomon was supposed to be I guess, measured out in this way, where there were nine separate rooms in a nine square grid. I've heard other descriptions saying that the temple was shaped like a man, right? I don't know if that's the same temple. Maybe those are two conflated descriptions. But yes. Why these numbers? I think it has to do with proportion in the sense that people have recognized for a long time that there's something magical about mathematics. 

Now, scientifically, we might explain that away as the Fibonacci series, but even those scientists who recognize that kind of stuff, it seems like they're either a part of two camps, the camps where people are like, yeah, isn't that novel? And then there's the other camp of people who are like, yeah, and this means God created us. Right? And I tend to lean towards the latter, where I see the Fibonacci sequence as proof that consciousness came first, and that kind of line of thinking. 

I think a lot of people that listen to these podcasts tend to think that, know, we don't really attract that many atheistic type thinkers. That's more of the liberal mainstream, and that's exactly the type of mindset that was created in these universities. It's exactly what Yale University pumps out, is people who are brainwashed with that sort of thing. But for us, listening to this, the unsceptical folks who are more open minded, not that they're not skeptical, but anyways, enough pandering. 

I think that the Fibonacci series, mathematics, you can extrapolate it to any obviously, any measurement, but really, any field of research has some aspect of numeration, right? Whether you're counting ducks or you're counting bricks, mathematics is inherently a part of everything. So I think that's really what you're looking at when you see these numbers, like 322 being used. Three and two and two. If you look at it, it's kind of like a pattern. 

Like if you put two and two next to each other, and then a three on top of it, or the reverse, where you have three equals two and two, three goes on to two and two, that's four. So seven, I tend to think that way where these kind of games are going on, where they're reducing numbers to their core value. So 322 would really be the number seven, because you add those numbers up, what do you get? You get seven. 

Now you have the nine square grid. That's kind of the whole main point here, right? The 9th square is the only square in New Haven that really is called that. There's an incredible sigil in the center square. When you look at the paths that cut through the park in the center of town. Some people have reached out to me and said, oh, that's Lucifer's sigil. Other people have reached out to me and said, oh, that's the unicursal hexagram. 

Other people have said, this is just a straight up pentagram. And there's even graffiti that I found on one of the signs in the park where an artist who was skilled enough to draw a very good recreation. Up here, I'll share my screen and show you. No, that's Amistad Park. Zoom out. Okay, now look right where it says Haven and where it says New Haven. How Google Earth says New Haven. 

If you zoom all the way out, and it will only say New Haven, and then you put your pointer right there. Keep zooming out. Right where it says 9th Square Apartments, but you're now zoom in. Okay, that Green, the only green square in the whole city. What the heck? No, that's Worcester Park one. Go to the left. It's the biggest. No, go up. No, north. You're not even close to the center. 

Now you're right there. There you go. Boom. Dude, but this is weird too. Look at that. Well, all right, so you got to think like, New Haven Green came first. They did this, and then other people were like, oh, let's do the same thing. I think there's something to be said about Worcester Square Park. There used to be a Columbus Christopher Columbus statue in Worcester Square Park that was taken down around the same time that they changed the holidays name. 

So maybe there's something to be said there. But, yeah, if you look at mean, I have a pretty good picture of the path if you want me to show you a picture. There you go. That's pretty clear. But, yeah, just stay right there. Okay, so what you're looking at are three churches. So as New Haven was formed, you got to keep in mind the people that came to New Haven from Boston, they had enough money to buy a horse and carriage, put all their stuff in it, and make it to, you know, this is maybe a couple days journey back then. 

Right. So not everybody who just jumped off the boat to Boston came down to, you know, there was a specific party of people who founded it, and they were connected to people at Cambridge and Oxford. So from the beginning of founding, you know, there were some pretty upper echelon people involved. Right. So you have these three churches that are formed here, and they're all facing the east where the sun rises, and they're all now on Temple Street. 

Previously, the square was just a park space, and there was no street bisecting it. But, yeah, those churches are, like, the oldest extant buildings in New Haven. Aside from some Yale buildings that are older, these are the oldest concurrent structures. They might not be the same materials that were there when the churches were first built, but a church has been in that spot longer than any other building. 

So these are significant to the United States, to the American Revolution in so many ways. I mean, Yale as a university is huge. It's a monolithic institution. But you're talking about three churches at the center of a nine square grid. Okay. So there's some more math for you. Obviously, three and nine fit nicely together, but I was looking, and I'm, like, know what's going on with this city square layout. 

Like, why do this? And maybe the Temple of Solomon has something to do with it. Maybe it's about planning the perfect city. Okay. Because this is something that back in the 17th century, when these folks like Theophilus Eaton and John Davenport were settling New Haven, when they founded it, they were concerned with creating a utopia so that God would favor them. Right. Because back then, everybody thought the world was ending. 

They still do today. Right. Maybe that's manufactured to some degree because of what that does to people psychologically. But that utopian ideal was a part of the New Haven philosophy, and it still is in the hearts and minds of the social justice warriors like this lie that we can make the world a perfect place. I think some of this cult, like, weird activity that's going on in mainstream culture, you can't have any of that if people aren't living under this false assumption that we can have a perfect world. 

Right. I don't know how many people actually believe that, but there's certainly a lot of naive people who are sort of doing and acting, in a way, saying things that allude to making the world a perfect place or for them. Right. Maybe not for everyone. Being a better place is what we should all aspire to. I'm not being a pessimist or cynic here, but yeah, it's certainly like one of these carrot on a string ideas that the government, religions, and other cults use to keep people on a certain path. 

But I'm going to share my screen and show you the nine square grid from a different perspective. And the nine square grid is what we use on our telephones. Right. That's how it's laid out. Is that what you're referring to when you refer to the nine square? Yeah, when you look at the symbol that we use for numbers, it's a tic TAC toe, three slashes. Is it three slashes? No, four lines. 

Right. Making that nine square box, it's essentially the same thing, just without those perimeter lines. That's our symbol in the English lexicon. Four numbers pulled up here. Have you ever heard of the nine dots puzzle? Read it. So the nine dots puzle is a mathematical whose task is to connect nine squarely arranged points with a pen by four fewer straight lines without lifting the pen. The puzzle has appeared under various other names over the years. 

And the interesting part about this was that it's connected to Christopher's Egg. And then this is Egg of Columbus, or Columbus's egg refers to a brilliant idea discovery that seems simple or easy after the fact. The expression refers to an apocryphal. So you're talking about the end of times apocryphal story dating from at least the 16th century in which it is said Christopher Columbus, having been told that finding a new trade route was inevitable and no great accomplishment, challenges his critics to make an egg stand on its tip. 

After his challengers give up, Columbus does it himself by tapping the egg on the table to flatten its tip. Interesting. But then check this out. Mary Shelley mentions Columbus's eggs in her introduction to the third edition of Frankenstein writing in all matters of discovery and invention, even of those that appertain to the imagination we are continually reminded of the story of Columbus and his egg. Invention consists in the capacity of seizing on the capabilities of a subject and the power of molding and fashioning ideas suggested to it. 

So we're kind of sort of talking about some of the people who are fashioning and molding society, right? Yeah. Doesn't it sound like they're insinuating that the novel idea was to just tell everybody that Columbus discovered America because that solved all these problems that they had that were keeping them from exploring the new mean? That's what I hear when I heard that. Also, I don't know that you can flatten an egg by tapping it on the table. 

I think that would just break it. Yeah. Maybe a hard boiled maybe. Or maybe I'm going to piss some people off and get some people really excited, so buckle up. Maybe that's an analogy for the flat earth because he took an orb egg which some people say the earth is actually shaped like an egg and he flattened it. What does that say? I got an announcement for you, bro. 

I came out of the closet recently. I'm not a flat earther, but it's not round. Not married to the ball. Not married to the ball, bro. Either am I, bro. That's just how it is, dude. If you're married to the ball in 2023, you're a moron. I'm married to no balls, Mark. Thank you. Except my own. Thank you. Yes. See, I'm with you there. I'm not married to the ball. 

I don't think anyone should be. It doesn't mean I'm a flat earther per se, but I'm definitely not married to the ball. Yeah. All right. So check this out. This is maybe a clearer image of can I zoom in? Yeah, I could zoom in. So this is maybe a clear image of the pattern if I could get to it. You see that? Yes. So that fountain that you zoomed in on before, that's an eight sided fountain. 

That's right here at this center point, if you can see my mouse and any eight sided structure. I don't know if you've researched Jefferson's octagonal buildings. Have you ever looked into that? Jefferson what's his first name? Like, Thomas Jefferson? Yeah. The president. Well, no, I haven't. I'll look it up now. Yeah. So Jefferson, even today, there's some wherever his estate is, he has, like, this octagonal building on his mansion or whatever. 

Right. And this goes back to this old tradition called the tower of the winds. And what's interesting is there's this guy, Court Lindall, who's connected a bunch of these eight sided structures on these really big maps and shows how they're built in a way that you can draw straight lines so that they go right along the octagon's angles and connect to one another. Now, if you think about it, an octagon is a really good shape for that type of geometry. 

But right here in the center, situated right in front of the center church is the octagonal fountain. So I don't know exactly what else New Haven is connected to on a memorial level, like what other monuments are connected to it, but on a sort of broad stroke scale. We can see that New Haven is actually on a ley line that I probably talked about the last time we were doing this show. 

It goes all the way from stonehenge down to the pyramids in Teotiwacan, Mexico, and every major city on the United States. Eastern seaboard, for the most part, crosses through this line as well. I think I showed you this. You're probably familiar, but Boston, New Haven, New York City, and Philadelphia, washington DC. Atlanta, Georgia, new Orleans and then Mexico City. So, yes, we're leaving out some probably important cities along the coast. 

I mean, of all the cities you're hitting, boston, New York City, Philadelphia, and I mean, and New Orleans, too, in a different mean. These are all pivotal cities when it comes to American history. And I think that's really what's going on. Why Yale University has been so successful is because they've situated themselves on these energy corridors that they then manipulate on a massive scale. And the they is difficult here because it's not one single entity or even one single group. 

It's more of like an esoteric impulse. It's sometimes even esoteric to the people acting on the impulse, where certain people are connected to, let's say, magic, and then the magic works through them. So they don't necessarily have to be even acknowledging the fact that they are a part of this. Think about it like inspiration to an artist. You could have an artist who thinks, I'm just locked up in my apartment painting and channeling inspiration. 

You ever wonder maybe that artist has somebody who's tapping into them who's not an artist and is sending them images because they're psychic? Or even worse, a group of people who are sort of doing that on a mass scale? I think those kind of things are possible where you have groups of people who are just influential enough in this subtle realm that they can actually manifest their will through other people. 

And I think the way they do this kind of stuff is by setting up massive arrangements of structures so that energy, human energy, flows in a specific specified direction rather than just organically and wildly as it might have. So, yeah, any questions about that? Diatribe before I stop sharing my screen real quick. Go all the way down to it looks like a cow. That bottom picture there that you share, it looks like a cow. 

The head of a cow. That's the outline of New Haven County. Interesting. Yeah, it looks like the side of a cattle if you look at no, not the county. That's just the city. My mistake. This one? Yeah, you see, I get the horns up top, then the head of the cow right there and then the neck. Maybe that's on purpose. I mean, shoot, I think they had full sort of purview when it came to creating the borders like New Haven City. 

And that's what I tell people. Even the layout of your city, the counties, area codes, the numbering of highways, that's also very esoteric. And a few things came to mind when you're talking dude. So I pulled up here we have Thomas Jefferson's octagon house. It's his house laid out in the shape of an octagon. And I haven't read it here, but so he had built the secret houses and escaped from his then too frequently visited mansion at Monticello, 90 miles to the north. 

So this idea and you should really check out the book Pythagorean Palaces, because that really breaks down a lot of these concepts. And you keep mentioning Solomon's Temple. Well, there is some elites, and I mean Rudolph II and his family, the Habsburgs, where they all grew up and where they're all buried, which is called the forgot the name. It's got a Spanish name. Anyways, I'll think of it, it's a Pythagorean palace that's built to the specifications of Solomon's Temple. 

Now, the idea of these Pythagorean palaces is that they want to achieve a higher state of consciousness in that area, in that building. So it resonates at a certain frequency to elevate their consciousness. El Escorial is the name of the place that they all grew up at and they're all buried at El Escort, which is this giant palace. And think of it the same way that you can elevate consciousness. 

You can invert that and you can suppress consciousness. So think about these 15 minutes cities that they want to put us in from an occult esoteric point of view. Why do they want to shove us all into these cities? Well, perhaps they are intentionally suppressing the way it's laid out, the way it's built versus their buildings. That is very sacred geometry. The you have the Pythagorean palace principles that follow, obviously, pythagoras and look at this is a universal comasonry, universal freemasonry. 

org. And it's talking about here the theory which ascribes if not the actual origin of freemasonry to Pythagoras. So this is why these secret societies, Euclid's, 47th Proposition, all these things, they revere. There is something to mathematics that they are using, and they're using it as a sort of talisman to their advantage. Now, with all that said, I also want to point out you talked about enthusiasm. Well, enthusiasm actually means to sort of be possessed by this higher power. 

And you're talking about somebody in their apartment being having some sort of enthusiasm or they're being guided in a sort of way. Well, wasn't the Alamantra workings with Crowley in his apartment in New York or something, like just like a regular apartment, and they channeled Lamb and they saw some gray entity come through a portal? Weirder. I'm pretty sure that the apartment was in. So he did multiple ritual workings, but what he did in the United States was on Long Island, and some people think that it was at Camp Hero, where the Montauk Project happened some decades later. 

I was wondering possibly maybe it was near where Tesla had his Wardencliffe Tower, because those two guys were alive. I think at the same time, I think Crowley was just a little younger than him, but he would have known about sure, so yeah, there's that. But what do you mean? How does that relate? Just through their ritual being something that provoked people to be inspired, like the hippie movement, that kind of thing? No. 

So what I was getting at was the idea of, yeah, you could quite literally be in your apartment. You don't have to be in this ceremonial setting. You could be doing something in your own apartment in the privacy of your own home and have contact. And one of the things that's always stood out to me, dude, and I forgot who it was that told me the name of the Starbucks or this coffee shop that was across the street from Yale. 

But Yale has some really cool artifacts, and I pulled know, I Googled artifacts at Yale, and then this came up. Yale returns Machu Picchu artifacts to Peru. And I haven't read it, but apparently they had some artifacts. What's weird about that is Machu Picchu and New Haven are on the same exact line of so when you look at a map, you'll see that America, like, juts out sort of closer to Africa than North America is to Europe. 

Right? So South America, the western coast of South America is lined up with the eastern coast of America. Right. So, yeah. And New Haven and Machu Picchu are on an exact straight line. And the guy who discovered Machu Picchu discovered, quote, unquote, was from Yale University. So what are the ODS that a guy from New Haven finds Machu Picchu and happens to be dead center on this straight line from this nine square grid that could be potentially put there for a reason? I mean, Machu Picchu is a special place. 

Maybe that's on the 72nd line of longitude for a reason. There's that seven again, and 72 makes nine. So what are the ODS that the nine square grid is on this 72nd line of longitude? Right. Look at this. So here inca human remains were amongst the first artifacts in Yale's collection to. Be returned, repatriated to peru, arriving. I've never seen that word before to the first three shipments, so okay, keep this in mind, right? We know about Skull and Bones. 

Well, there's a lot of interesting books as well at Yale, dude. And one of these books that has stood out to me, right? They have the Rothschilds cantacles. They have the Voyage Manuscript. They have other manuscripts too. I was just looking up here, and you want to know where they put those books? You want to see what the building looks like? Because that should blow your mind. Really? Is it juicy? It's weird. 

Well, I guess it's weird when you know what we know, but let me find what do we know, Mark? We know a my hypothesis is, Mark, that so you're talking about people who are quite literally at the forefront of the world, right. A lot of the most influential people have gone to this school, and I think that has something to do with alchemy. If you have a combination, it's the manipulation of symbols on a physical level as much as a symbolic level. 

So if you have a certain group of texts I like this idea of interdimensional literature that resonates throughout history and shapes reality. Well, what if you get a library of that, right? Like John D had the biggest library in Europe at one point. Well, what if you have all these weird books, the Voyage manuscript, a book that, again, supposedly, Edward Kelly used to conjure the spirit to lead him to gold or treasure, as the story goes. 

But then what if you're able to turn that around and kind of resonate it in the ether? And check this book out, bro. This book is called the Rothschilds Cantacles, and it's supposed to be a prayer book, again, owned by the Rothschilds. But check this out, bro, because it gets really weird towards the end here, I want you to have you ever seen this buscara, solar, buscara, tarot card deck? No. 

It sounds familiar, though. I might not be remembering the correct name, but apparently either the Rothschilds or people similar to them made this Tarot card deck with all these demonic images on it. And that's kind of what I'm looking like. Not that these are necessarily demonic yet. You haven't showed me one that looks that way yet. But they do have the same art style and layout of the Tarot card designs, where it's like, the scale of the people and then the kind of check. 

Yeah, this art gets pretty weird. And what it's supposed to be? Is it's supposed to be illustrating the Trinity from the Bible? Yeah, this is a prayer book, and these are all mandalas, bro. So the purpose of this book is to aid you in meditation, to unite with God. Right? So look at this, bro. Look how bizarre this art is. Almost like a Cthulhu butthole tentacled. God, look at that. 

It looks like yeah, look at this. Dude, this is so bizarre. When I came across this, I'm like, okay, and then who owns it? Only one of the more most powerful families in the history of ever. And I think books hold the key, dude, I think that writing things down. I've always said this solidifies, this sort of man. Dude, I've heard Grim wars where you write a spell down, you wash the ink away, you drink the ink to gain the magical powers, right? This water with the ink in it, and you're supposed to do some crazy stuff with it. 

I think it's writing down. And then look at you have these chimeras and this weird imagery. You have this long creature chimera, these monstrosities in here. But yet look at this. It's supposed to be a book of prayer to aid you in meditation, contemplation, and you're supposed to go into these images to meditate and become one with the godhead or whatever that may mean. But what a bizarre book, bro. 

The imagery is so fascinating. I find it so interesting. Yeah, it looks like typical medieval Yale, too. Look at that. What? You know what a Yale is? A mythical creature. There's a mythical creature called a Yale. Yeah, bro, check it out. I never heard this one. Yeah. So a Yale. Are you sure you pronouncing that the right way? So, Yale, mythical creature, or a YALI or a centicore is this weird looking thing? Yeah, well, I don't know how you would pronounce it any other way. 

Yeah, that's a Yale. We'll pronounce it Yales. Yales. A Yales is supposed to be this horn mythological creature again, that is look, Yales. So other common names. Yalis, centicores, IBEX, so antelope, or goat like creature with the tusk of a boar and large horns in European mythology. So we have it on these crests. Very weird. But if you look real quick at this thing here, that kind of looks like a wait, wait, go back to that last one. 

It says right there that serves as supporters above the gate of St. John's College at Cambridge. And Cambridge is where the founders, some of the founders of New Haven were educated, and Harvard came before Yale, so a lot of the guys who started Yale were from Harvard, but wow, that's incredible. I never heard of this. Have you ever heard of oryx or a mark or no, no. These are real animals, not mythical oryx an oryx looks exactly like what these pictures. 

You know, back in the medieval period, people from Europe who never had been to Africa or the Middle East, they would see images of these kind of African creatures. And it just fed into the folklore of other places being filled with weird monsters. Which a lion and an elephant and a hippo if you've only ever seen squirrels and birds and fucking bears. Yeah, a lion and a crocodile. 

And these African creatures are going to seem like monsters. So I guess that could be partly an explanation. But that's not nearly as fun as wondering how a mythical being became the name of the second largest university in terms of finances in the United States. Well, according to the mainstream history, where does the name Yale originate from? Do they actually have a name, family or what? Yeah. So there is a guy named Eli who Yale who upon Yale's founding, he never really even spent any time in America. 

Even though he was born in Boston, he spent most of his time in India and he was like a slaver drug trader, dutch East India, british East India type guy. Right. The British East India Corporation, I think is where he worked for. But yeah, Elahu Yale had like a nephew back in New Haven, and he reached out. Somebody reached out and said, hey, can you send us some money for this? But yeah, it's interesting. 

Another thing came up on a different podcast that the Porcelain Club at Harvard uses a hog's head as their symbol. And if you go back to that last page, you'll see that the hog is being used in the Yale coat of arms, albeit a hog that's caught and trapped. But I don't know what that is an allusion to. But it's interesting. You see that boar, the hog, that seems to be a symbol that comes up a lot within these groups. 

But yeah, how did we get into that? Again, I had something else I was going to say. This is giving me very Dr. Eggman's island vibes. And Dr. Eggman, right. A lot of people wrote on his plane. And also, dude, if you ever want to I know you don't do a lot of YouTube stuff, but Paranoid American and I have worked on this occult Decode. com, and it's a gematria calculator. 

And also it can give you replacement words for words that are pinged on Ban happy platform. So make sure to check that out at Occult Decode. com for those that want to be alchemical, because that's one of the aspects of this bro. These dudes are alchemists and they're shrouding their places in mystery with symbols. They're speaking with symbols because, again, only the initiates are going to understand what's happening. 

And I love using Wicked Idea or Wikipedia as a base for a lot of my research because that's going to be the exoteric. That's what they're going to show everyone. And usually when anyone's looking something up, the first thing that they're going to do is they're going to go to Wikipedia. And I always remember in school, my teacher would be like, you can't use Wikipedia as a source. 

It's got to be a or else I remember that. Okay, so just keep that in mind. I've never used Wikipedia as a source on like, now Wikipedia is like the big bad guy because it's like censoring shit. But I remember that what you just described, and when I was a kid. I'm like, fuck you, teach. The Wikipedia is great. I just learned like 30 things in 30 minutes here in this stupid computer class just by clicking from one. 

My favorite thing is you go through a Wikipedia page and there's like 30 other Wikipedia pages linked in just one. So you could just keep learning from one to another. Try doing that with an encyclopedia. You'll get tired. You can't flip through that many pages. Anyways, I've talked about this way too much. There used to be a website called Stumble Upon. You ever used that website, Juan? Stumble upon. 

It was the best. It was like a random shuffle button for the Internet. And every time you wanted to see a new website, you just hit shuffle and it would take you to a new place. And dude, it was incredible. They had a filter for conspiracies, so it only take you to conspiracy websites. It was the best. So, yeah, that and those days of Wikipedia are gone now. 

It's all censored and cucked out. I actually just learned about something called the SPC. Have you ever heard of this? It's like a Wikipedia fan fiction thing where the guys in Wikipedia, they make up these paranormal things. It's very hard to explain. It's like kind of like meta, I guess you would. They're like LARPing as X Files detectives in the Wikipedia servers. So I don't know what that entails, but to me, when I was reading it, I almost felt like this is a psyop to have a convenient excuse to just say, like, oh, no, that Wikipedia page about chupacabra was actually just a prank by these guys who like to know. 

So if another hat man comes up on the Internet, they can just creepy pasta it away and nobody believes it because they just think it's weirdos doing creepy pastas on the internet. There's a lot of those. Yeah, but when it comes to certain things, it's very convenient, right? To have a straw man. I don't know if that's the right term to replace the real actual thing that's getting attention that the all present day doesn't want any attention on. 

But anyways, we were talking about the Voinik manuscript, and maybe you didn't find out, just like, I had no idea. The Rothschild candy Codex. What the hell was that? Candidates oh, the cantacles. That's a weird word. So I didn't know about the Rothschild cantacles. But maybe you didn't know that in that same library that has the Voignik manuscript and the Cantacles, they have the world's oldest bible, and they also have the Egyptian book of the Dead, which is not something that was ever in libraries, because what the Egyptian Book of the Dead was for dead people. 

They literally wrote the book for dead people. How to navigate the realm. Yeah, it was a user manual to the afterlife. And they would stick it into the coffin and then off you go. Here's your user guide written by people who aren't dead, so probably turn out to be like an Ikea manual. But either way, what's kind of interesting is they have these clearly grave robbed goods, the Egyptian Book of the Dead. 

I mean, not that they've hid that at all. There's tons of stuff that was grave robbed in the 19th century from Egypt, but a lot of it got put at Yale in their museums and their library here. And this library has this really incredible gas inside of it. So if there's ever a fire, the oxygen will be removed from the building in a split second, and it will be replaced by this gas that's not flammable. 

So it would preserve any of the documents in the rare chance that there's a fire inside. So the whole building is deadly. Like the building can kill you. Let's say you're a security guard and somebody throws a match on a book. Everybody in that building is going to die to preserve those billions of dollars worth of books, right? So that's kind of what you're looking at is kind of shaped like a coffin, but it also kind of, I guess you'd call it a kill box rather than a coffin. 

But one thing that I kind of was drawn to is the building itself kind of looks like some of these rock structures that I've been finding all over New England, where you have several small boulders holding up one giant boulder, right. Do you see that side of it right there? I forget what it's called. Actually, I have a comparison to it right here. It's almost a pedestal. Like, it's on, like, four pedestals, just like these pedestal boulders that some researchers say were built by Vikings or Celtic people who were here a long time ago. 

It's kind of balanced even. It gives you this illusion that there's nothing there holding it up. And then right next to this kind of incredible oh. The other thing that's notable about the library is these. They're made out of a stone that has just enough opacity to let light in. So these stones are kind of like instead of glass, they have the stones there because you ought to preserve those books, right? And all next to Asama Naguchi's underground sculpture garden, bringing back this whole underground atmosphere. 

The underground implies where people are buried. It also implies, like, the esoteric, the hidden, the secret, right? And right next to the library, you can't even see it if you're looking at a picture of the library. But see where this person is standing right here, that wall next to them? If they were to look over the wall and look down, they would see this sculpture garden here. And Asama Naguchi. 

He's an interesting artist. He's from Japan. Well, he's Japanese from me. He built Detroit's Heart Plaza, which is there's a whole rabbit hole there that my friend Chad Stemke researched and wrote a book about I don't know if you've had him on one on one podcast, but Chad was a dude that was doing Esoteric America with me while we were still doing that show. But, yeah, this is kind of interesting. 

The underground garden, the pyramid represents the earth. The circle there represents the sun or life. And then this cube on its side represents time and chance and how everything's intertangled together in this kind of matrix that you see on the bottom there with the tiles, this is all right there next to the Voinik manuscript, the Rothschild stuff. And this is some of the Gucci guy. Like, he's built these really ritualistic type sculptures for a who's who of some of the wealthiest people in the world. 

Obviously, the materials he's working with are very expensive, but I think that's really the minimal of why they're approaching him for his work. They're interested in the spiritual aspects of what he's got going on with his art. And it's right here in the Hewitt quadrangle. And this building right here that is kind of across from the library. This is now called the Schwartzman Center, and it's named after Stephen A. 

Schwartzman, the CEO of BlackRock, the military investment. Yeah. Like, this is all connected, bro, and mean, you know, the black stone from the know, the the whole alchemy, the whitestone and the blackstone. Right. And they have this story. Oh, well, my last name means black and his last name means stone. So we put our last names together to create the Blackstone Corporation. That's a load of bullshit. Have you heard of the blackstone at the North Pole that John D wrote about? Mercator wrote about? No, but maybe it's connected to the blackstone that the Muslims worship, right? I mean, isn't that supposedly a big black cube? Right? So a few things that you've pointed out. 

So this is the Rupus Niagara. I always get scared saying that word, but it's a supposedly Mercator wrote to John D about it, and it's 33 French miles, and it's supposed to be at the North Pole to magnetic black rock. There's some lore behind it's. Got this crazy vortex going around it as well. And dude, that library that you showed me, have you ever seen the Belco Experiment movie? No. 

It's giving me Major Belco Experiment movies. And what this building is, because you said it could unalive you. Well, this is an experiment that they're conducting. People go in and the entire building shuts down, and people have to fight for survival within it. And just look at the layout of it. It kind of looks like that place that you sent me there. And again, it's this whole movie on it. 

But, yeah, the idea that I'm sure that everything that you've talked about, Mark, I'm sure it's just a coincidence, right. The layout of those sculptures, the meanings behind them. I'm sure that the BlackRock guy owning the dome there, or whatever it is, the tower. I'm sure that's all just a coincidence. I'm sure it has nothing to do with it. But check it out again. What if they align all these things? You remember? Dragon Ball z with the dragon balls? And how if you got what was it, nine dragon balls? Was it? Was it nine? All I remember was hamey bro. 

I did not watch Dragon Ball Z. I'm sorry. Animated series. You broke up there for a second. You sound like a robot. You're like I remember was Drag and I'm just kidding. But, yeah, you're back now, but I said, let me look up how many dragon balls it was. But this idea of collecting it was let's see here, the Dragon ball, the name, say the dragon ball, say the orange crystalline spheres with the ability to call forth the eternal dragon. 

There was 123456. I think it's seven in total or something. Anyways, this has been, I mean, at least ingrained in my psyche as a kid. If you collect all the artifacts look at what is it, indiana Jones and the crystal skulls. And there's the lore. If you collect all the crystal skulls, then you'll I don't know what happens if you collect all the crystal skulls, but I think it'd be maybe you summon a dragon, right? If we get all the crystal skulls together, which they've run the numbers and they've done the history on them, they don't know where they came from or how they were made, but they kind of sort of exist. 

It's like this weird artifact. Well, again, I think that you can also do that with books and symbols, right? If you have a certain connection or layout of symbols similar to what you were showing there the circle, the churches are facing a certain way towards the sun. I think it all goes back to sun worship mark and the idea of the sun being a portal to another dimension. 

And the sun is actually a keyhole, a pinhole in which we're observing something or something is observing us. Like, what if the sun is God, right? We're being observed by God essentially through this hole in the sky or whatever it is, you know what I mean? That goes back to the whole utopia idea, and we're all being sort of ever presently watched by God and he's going to pass judgment on us, right? I don't have any trouble believing that we're culpable for our actions. 

Like there are consequences to our actions. But I don't necessarily think that the world being created by a consciousness AK God also has to mean that God is always watching us, right, that's saying, go wild and do whatever, right? No, not at all. But I think that idea has been like a control mechanism. And whether it hearkens back to something else, maybe like Nephilim or archangels or Demigods controlling and meddling in the affairs of humans, maybe it goes back to that. 

And it's kind of like a genetic memory where we remember these other cultures that were, like, screwing with us. I don't know. But I do see it in the artwork with New Haven. There's this one woodcut drawing that I found of the Oroboros as the frame of the picture. And then reaching out from the clouds, there's a hand with a not compass with a needle, but two needles, like the type of compass used to draw a circle. 

And it's just very interesting because obviously, New Haven is a square, not a circle. So why would there be a compass coming down from the sky? Well, they're circling the square that's Freemasonry. And it's kind of interesting because New Haven was technically founded way before Freemasonry ever existed. Technically, Freemasonry began in 1717, or 17 one, I forget which number. But Yale, coincidentally, was founded in 17 one. And their first school building was finished being constructed in 1717. 

Not to mention that the Freemason Lodge in New Haven is one of the oldest lodges in the United States and has held membership of guys like Benedict Arnold, Nathan Hale, and actually, no, not Nathan Hale, Benedict Arnold, bunch of other people that are more specific to New England history. Israel Putnam, who was a signer of the Constitution, so important stuff. And George Washington himself made his sort of grand journey passing through New Haven and stopping at the Freemason Lodge during that. 

Uh, I'm sure that's just a coincidence, too. Mark well, and that's the whole thing with Freemasonry is they're very vague about like, oh, yeah, we believe in a creator, but it's whatever creator you want. And ever since I've heard this one YouTube channel guy explaining and breaking this down, it's kind of been stuck in my head. And I'm actually really lucky because he's going to be joining me on my podcast tomorrow. 

This guy, Paul Staubbs from Understanding Conspiracy, and his whole thing is connected to the Nephilim and breaking them down. One of the things he was talking about was how the Freemasons say that they follow Enoch, but he's found out through some research and digging that there are two Enochs. The Book of Enoch makes that really clear. And he's saying that the Freemasons are following the bad or less favorable evil twin. 

Yeah, well, and dude, think about that with The Shining and all these other twin, you've broken down all these symbols. I could just say twin. And you could probably find like five or six things that connect to that. Gemini's right? I mean, plenty of stuff, but yeah, we're just in this time when so many things are just being connected. Know, we looked at the kind of weird monsters in that Rothschild Candito or whatever it was. 

Cantacles I don't know why I'm putting a Spanish twist on it. Carnitas, the Rothschilds Carnitas and Taco Bell. I got Rothschild carne ASADA the other day. Speaking of Spanish, the bad bunny, the rapper, has this tattooed on his chest. I'm sure that's just rebus. Yeah, the alchemical rebus or rebus the unity of the opposites again. All right, hold on though, because I want to thread the needle here so people don't think I'm just spurting out random schizophrenic statements. 

Know, when it comes to the nine square grid. Like all roads led to Egypt for me, because A, around this time when skull and bones was really becoming a prominent organization, egyptomania was also in full swing. People were throwing like mummy parties where they would unwrap a pharaoh at a dinner table or some crazy shit like that. Yeah, people got nuts when these pyramids were starting to be open. 

They're taking all the jewels and the stuff out of the crypts and bringing them back to the United States and Europe. Yeah, they were throwing all these weird parties to show off what they had dug up in Egypt. And new Haven has some architectural aspects that are definitely Egyptian. So I said to myself, what if there are obviously there's a model for this. They didn't just say, oh, we're going to create something in the Egyptian style, but invent it ourselves. 

No, they're going to look at existing structures and try to model it off of that make, maybe like a composite, which is exactly what they did with the cemetery, which is new Haven cemetery, but it's also the first cemetery of its kind in American history. And that gate at the front is modeled after the temple at Dendera. And then there's another structure that was dedicated to Hermes in the city of Hermopolis. 

And when I was led to that, I was, huh, that's interesting. Hermopolis. That sounds like Hermes again. Right. So I look up heropolis. Yeah. See the dendera light. Boom. Look at mean we want to talk about like Hermes and like he's the magician, he's the scientist, he's the so real quick, mark, before we get too far away from the subject, because you kept bringing up yeah, yeah. Nephilim. 

So real quick, if we follow the lure, if we follow the mainstream lure, the idea is that alchemy, right? Because we've been talking about symbolism. They speak in symbols and these images that they're putting in these movies and the media, whatever you name it, is a sort of other language for them, and only the initiated understand them. Well, if we follow the lure, alchemy derived from the nephilim, these fallen ones, that when they fell in love with the daughters of men, they taught them the science of metals. 

They taught them the science of herbs and roots and all these different things. And alchemy and chem is supposed to be named after Ham, which is one of the sons of Noah. Right. So Noah was probably a great alchemist. And then you had Enoch, who was able to ascend right, the story of Enoch. And we talked about the north pole a little bit ago. Well, in the 33rd chapter of the Book of Enoch. 

He talks about the north, right? About going to the north and ascending through the north. Again, we've always seen the North Pole, the Pole star being some sort of gateway to another dimension. You have various religions and different civilizations. I mean, societies that worshiped the Big Dipper and Little Dipper, right? I mean, the North Pole, they wanted to ascend through that. And the reason I bring this up is because the story of Enoch, the evil twin apart, is a sort of story of ascension. 

And what is right, we've been talking about the whole premise of this entire conversation has been about the idea of gaining control and gaining power over others. Because what do the elites want? They want more money, more power, more influence. And the story of Enoch is a way to quite literally transform into this godhead, metatron, to ascend through the levels and become this overseer of reality. That's what the story of Enoch is really about, right? And I think that's what they're after. 

They're wanting to either, again, similar to the Rothschild Cantacles, where it's about uniting yourself with the one, with the source, with God, not becoming God, but maybe, right, the lesser Yahweh, Enoch, right? Metatron becoming some sort of godhead like that, where you're able to quite literally warp reality. And again, like Alchemy, once you achieve the magnum opus, you step outside of the fabric of space and time and you're able to manipulate reality from outside of it. 

So I think that's why they're obsessed with this sort of ideology and these sort of figures, because they represent something much deeper. And I think that the story. Right. You brought up the Tarot cards earlier. Well, the Tarot is a sort of again, some people believe it's instructions, similar to how Alchemy always has the instructions to the philosopher's stone. Well, what if the Tarot is instructions on how to achieve this higher state of reality or of being right? I mean, it's just an idea. 

Or it could just all be a coincidence. Mark, I don't know. Well, I don't know. You're teaching me on that stuff. I mean, I'm still learning a lot of that, and I get a little lost when it comes to the chronology. But when it comes to Egypt, obviously the gods of Egypt were worshipped way before the Bible came around, right? Because Egyptians are part of the Bible. They're talked about in the Bible. 

We have some scientific way of determining the age of these things. Go ahead and trust that, if you will. I tend to trust carbon dating. Maybe they're fucking with us there. Maybe. I'm not going to discount that possibility. But if we're going to go off of the sort of timescale that we're given, yeah, Egypt's pretty old, and maybe Enoch was one of these dudes, like one of these gods, these demigods that the Egyptians were worshipping. 

And I mean, most of the world was polytheistic. Back at that point anyways. So there's a case to be made there that there's some reality to these beings and having agency and affecting the world. So why wouldn't they have affected groups of people to this day? I mean, something like another race of being is pretty incredible. I don't think people would just give that up whether they're here or not, consciously or corporately or whatever. 

I think that's really where the question is. Paracelsus had a so, right? Paracelsis is known for the homunculus, but he had another lesser known race of creatures, which I'm going to look it up, but it's called Anakianas, I think it was. Let me look it up here. Yeah, they're called anakianas. And again, he only mentions them like one time in one book on a page. But essentially I'm going to look it up. 

But it was like this other race of entities or beings, and they were like these chimeras. So I don't know, let me confirm that because I'm pretty sure it was Anaki Diana's or something like that. I was reading, again, anaktiana, anakdiana. Let me see if I can find anything else on these. But yeah, Paracelsus wrote about them. And there was supposed to be of this other I pulled up the family tree of, right. 

Enoch was supposed to be I think it was a grandfather to Noah, but it was like great, great, like seven generations or something. And then, right, we have Ham, Shem, we have all this entire lineage. And these were some of I believe Noah was one of the greatest alchemists. And the reason I say that is because the Rosicrucians show, dude, I've even seen Moses link to Hermes, and there's like a syncretism there. 

And again, it's blurry for me because I'm just now getting into this, but there's a syncretism there of wasn't. Some people say Moses was thoth, right? The scribe or something like that. And I could be getting this completely wrong, but I know there's a connection. I was reading on alchemists in the Bible because again, this was during the Gnostic era when alchemy was coming out the first to third century. 

And Zozimos was writing about certain people who were biblical. I mean, they were talking about people in the biblical sense who were alchemists. You have Moses transforming the staff into the serpents. You have the water to wine. Those are transmutations. You know what mean? Like, those are our stories. They're magical. And sometimes people look past that. You know, JC wasn't practicing alchemy or whatever. He was one of the greatest adepts of alchemy. 

We don't know because again, we're reading the Bible however it's presented to us. And I think that the original Bible itself. I mean, it talks about the cornerstone and all these different things, right? I mean, that's philosopher's stone. Why did all these people in the Bible live for so long? Well, some people believe that they had the philosopher's stone, right? That they could extend their life with. You have King Solomon also having access to certain stones. 

King David having access to stones, these weird stones that they allude to. And I think it's all alchemical. And I think that the original Bible was meant to I've heard that Genesis is the greatest alchemical story ever told. And it's revered by certain alchemists as one of the greatest alchemical stories that there is. We're on Alchemy. Have you ever heard of the Shabbaka stone? No. So it's a relic with an Egyptian religious text which dates from the 25th dynasty of Egypt. 

And they think that it was used as a millstone which damaged all the hieroglyphs that were on it. And if you consider what its shape is, maybe obviously we can't tell now, but maybe it was something like the codex that they found in Mexico City, like the big circle that shows the long count. But it says, originally erected as a lasting monument at the great temple of Pita in Memphis. 

Pita. Peter memphis. Memphis, Tennessee. The Memphites. There's a whole big rabbit hole with Freemasonry there in the late 8th century BCE. The stone at some point was removed and brought to Alexandria. But yeah. So this is another black stone. We have this sort of the black rock. Yeah. I don't know what the theme is, but there's something to do with these black stones that's powerful. Maybe that's even akin to the crystal skulls where there are just certain materials that you can record things on. 

They last forever. Obviously, that's kind of the physical implication. But maybe there's something else, something energetic, spiritual can't be, maybe something that's not tangible. But I want to get back to Hermopolis. I appreciate the chart you brought up with knowing all them, but Hermopolis, like I said, was sort of, in some ways, this kind of, like, sister city esoterically to New Haven. Just what I'm kind of putting together here. 

Yeah. Because what I found is that, okay, so there's a couple of things we have to understand about this place before you can understand why I'm comparing it to New Haven. So the first thing is when you walk into the cemetery in New Haven, there is a man buried whose last name is Ashman. And when you look into his life, he actually was the guy who founded the country of Liberia. 

He was a white guy from Boston who wanted to bring all the African slaves back to America after the Civil War or bring them from America back to Africa. Right. That idea was obviously a bad idea and didn't work out very well. But he was the guy who kind of took the leading role in that venture to create the country of Liberia. He dies in Africa and then is immediately shipped to Boston and then to New Haven where he was buried in the New Haven cemetery. 

And not, like, in the ground. He's in this tomb thing, like a stone box, basically with a lid on it that says Ashmun. And when you look at the name of Hermopolis magna in I guess this is Coptic or maybe in Arabic, it's called El Ashmunin. So that would have been the modern name for Hermopolis during the time of this guy's life. Ashmunin. There's some other things with remember city of Hermes, too, by the way. 

That's what saying. So yeah. So remember how I was talking all about the nine square? Right? So in Hermopolis Magna, they worshipped the sacred eight. Okay? So obviously eight and nine are not the same number. Duh. But nine gods were worshipped everywhere else in Egypt. So some cities in Egypt worship the sacred nine. Some cities in Egypt worship the sacred eight. It's kind of like the way Catholics recognize the virgin birth and some other Christian groups don't. 

Right. They say that Joseph knocked her, so, you know, it's kind of pulling hairs. But it's interesting that you have this eight, and the nine eight is kind of like the symbol of infinity. The egg Hermopolis is Thoth, this magician, this scientist type character. And what does Yale do? Yale has the ancient eight consortium. That's the name of the eight oldest secret societies at Yale. The ancient eight. 

If you type that phrase in the ancient eight at Yale, you'll most likely get the list of these eight Yale secret societies. So there are more than eight now, now that they've kind of opened the secret societies up to be more like just like a Yale specific term for fraternity. But yeah, they have or sorority, because there are women as well. Yeah, they have this ancient eight. There you go. 

So you got to type in the ancient eight consortium. There you go. And also, you mentioned earlier the nine, right? The 9th gate. Was that the movie with Johnny Depp? Wasn't he looking for a book that was written by Satan himself? That's just an awesome movie, man. Here, check that out. St. Elmo's Secret society. St. Elmo. So this is exactly the Yale. Wow. And I didn't even recognize that until you pointed that know, so thank you. 

Good on. But in St. Elmo's Fire, that's like a movie. And it's also a phrase that meant, like, electricity. I think before they understood what electricity was, if somebody got burnt by electricity, they would call it Elmo's fire. Interesting. Yeah. And these schools okay, so Yale is a university, so universities have individual schools within them. Right. And the Sheffield scientific school was like Yale's, physics, chemistry, that kind of like more of the material sciences and their more advanced counterparts. 

Right. So the skull and bones, wolfshead and scroll and Key, those are the only secret societies that were not at the Sheffield scientific school. The other five were all created at the scientific school. And Skull and Bones with its members took over the scientific school and then used the scientific school to take over Yale. So ever since the late 18 hundreds, the Society of Book and Snake and the Society of Skull and Bones work together to basically take over Yale's administrative side of things, having their members in key positions. 

Like what do they the money guy. What's the money guy called? Not an accountant, but like the more fancy term for a what's? The guy who does money stuff in, like, a fraternity. Oh, the treasurer. Yeah, the treasurer in the government. The treasurer, right. So through doing things like that and having very wealthy financial friends and members, they were able to influence Yale towards that secret society agenda more and more and more as the years went on. 

But it's just interesting that with the architecture, the only buildings in New Haven that have that kind of Egyptian Moorish revival type style are the tombs where the secret societies are, or the cemetery. Outside of that, everything else is like this kind of Georgian kind of what was the term they used back then? I guess classic revival and then colonial style. Those are the major architecture styles in New Haven outside of a couple others. 

Not an architecture expert by any means, but I definitely have been learning a lot more about this stuff. Would it be neogothic? Is that neogothic is a big part of the campus? Yeah, the campus has a lot of neogothic features. And a guy named Lee Lori was the sculptor who made a lot of these really interesting reliefs on the sides of all the buildings with all sorts of different allegories mythological figures, depictions of students and people from, you know, just walking around Yale. 

It's like outdoor art museum. There's art everywhere. And this Lee Lori guy, he was actually prolific for his time. He did tons of state buildings across the country. I think he even did the tallest state capitol building, which is Nebraska state Capitol or Oklahoma. I think it's Nebraska, one of those midwest corn states. And it's pretty interesting. The sculpture he put all the way at the top of the building is this guy called the Seed. 

Sower he's, like, holding a big bag of seeds. He's tossing some seeds off to his right. But, yeah, this art, it's got this esoteric style to it because back then, in the 19th century, when a lot of this stuff was being created, freemasonry and secret societies, they were kind of trendy a little bit, especially after the Civil War. People were joining these groups to find brotherhood and become part of the community. 

So it's gone on in waves. You know, there was the whole Masonic panic in the early 18 hundreds that's what really sparked Skull and Bones to even become a secret society in the first place, is because secret societies had gone out of fashion, so they went underground because they had an agenda that went beyond being social organizations. If they were just merely social organizations, well, then their purpose would be defeated when that kind of thing went out of style. 

Right? So that's sort of where you see what was once these debating societies for the privilege and the exclusive evolve into these sort of very private, closed off meeting style rather than debate style meeting style organizations. And they became a lot more selective and exclusive. So, yeah, that's what got us to where we're at now, where we have this extreme wealth gap with at least in the American wealth base. 

It's like military and then the industry, right? That's the old money. Right. Those people from the railroad, the oil industries, I mean, right now, I guess it's the tech industry, right, but what other the car industry, those guys, they're all in Asia now, but there are certainly very wealthy people in America who made their money out of the automobile industry, right? So, yeah, I think you have to consider how Yale has really evolved the whole world just through its scientific alchemy of taking rock oil and turning it into petroleum. 

That was done at I mean, you think about how much the world's changed and how all those people who were a part of that time period made billions of dollars, right? The Rockefellers, the know, these this banking sort of upper crust type group who I guess pioneered what's now Wall Street, right. And insurance brokerage firms, I mean, hedge funds, these are billion dollar things that 400 years ago didn't exist. 

So that's alchemy that's changing the world and we're all kind of suffering. We're going through the black negredo stage of that process right now. I don't know that it's good. I'm not like a proponent of it. I'm not saying like, yeah, so just cross your fingers and wait till we get to the golden stage, because I don't think that reddening for us. I think it's for them. We're just like the substrate that the experiment is being done in. 

We're like the water in the beaker. We're not like active chemicals in the bong water. Mark yeah, we're not the pot. We're the bong water, bro. We're that black residue that builds up. We're the tar, dude. Tartaria, bro. That's where it all comes from, dude. So, by the way, let me clear some things up that have come up as you've been these loose threads, please, because we're a little bit unbuckled today. 

It's all good. Thoth, Hermes, there is again, there was some people even identify Moses as thoth or identified Hermes Trismegistus with Moses or as a contemporary. So I wasn't wrong on that. I just wanted to confirm that right there is that belief there you have the book and snake. And the reason this stood out to me is because book worms, well, worms are also another name for snake or serpent. 

So I just thought it was interesting that they have this or Boris inside this book. Is this another pun at like bookworms, right, book and snake. And then the idea that they call these tombs bro. And what we were talking about at the beginning, you mentioned the Egyptian Book of the Dead, where it was like this Ikea manual on how to navigate the realm of the dead. And it was supposed to be meant for dead people, but here it is again at Yale. 

We're both the same age, so this will work. You remember back when video games first came out, they would sell the books to go along with the video game that had all the cheat codes and how to beat missions. That's what the Book of the Dead was. The Egyptians saw the afterlife as the way kids today go into Fortnite. You didn't want to walk into Fortnite BRB. You want to go in and have all the best skins and have all the best weapons and do the cool dance when you shoot your enemies. 

Right? So I think that's the same shit that was going on back then in a way where they're like, yeah, they just wanted a reassurance, a guidebook. Yeah. And I think that with all the stuff that we said, you're absolutely right. There is some sort of transmutation. And that's what the Knights Templar we're trying to do, quite literally with the cathedrals, where we're talking about architecture and how it's used as some sort of these resonance structures that they resonate in the world, in the ether on a much deeper level. 

And I believe that these elites that are at the core of all these schools and all these secret societies, maybe they don't have because I've always thought about mentioned I think you mentioned LARPing earlier, and I was listening to Tripoli today on Broken Simulation. He talked about how Wells Fargo made fake accounts and they were collecting fees on like you were saying something about LARPing. And I was like, yeah, Wells Fargo was LARPing with people's identities, and they were opening up accounts and they were extracting money from that. 

Again, these are some of the most corrupt lizard people that there could ever be. But, yeah, it was absolutely it is trying to change the world. And the Knights temporar were doing that with the architecture. They were trying to resonate on a much deeper level. Now, if it is all make belief, it might just be make belief, but I think that the way I've been explaining magic, even if it is BS. 

I love this explanation of Aznarco Longo where it's the idea of tricking yourself into getting into a certain state of mind. Therefore, when you hypnotize yourself or trick yourself to enter that state of mind, you're able to extract things, manifest things, attract things, whatever it is. But in actuality, it's not anything really happening. It's you making yourself believe that these things are happening, therefore they are happening. You know what I mean? Like, in some weird kind of sort of way. 

Because we always think about, you keep bringing up the Egyptian aspect of it. Well, there's it the Egyptian, right, that sort of freemasonry, where there's a root of freemasonry that's really kind of Egyptian in its aesthetic, again, because I think that has something to do with these symbols that the Egyptians were using, right. Because language went from this sort of symbolic thing to more of a written. And then we have these letters now, so it's almost been kind of sort of demystified in a sort of way. 

And that started really we're talking about ancient scripture and this interdimensional literature. Well, 1611 with the King James version of the Bible and that old what do they call it, archaic English. And who's behind that? Well, Shakespeare. Well, Shakespeare were a person was he a group of people, right, or was he, you know, was John D involved in there? Because John D was kind of sort of at the forefront there, too. 

You have all these crazy ideas, and it kind of stems from that 16th century, that little bubble. And I think that I have some more material I'm working on that when it comes to that. But, yeah, I think that these people's influence is still highly felt today, and it can't be ignored. Now, what are we going to do about it? I don't know. Still devising a plan, but I got a solution. 

What's the solution? Buy scene edition three aesthetic in strange New Haven and learn all the details. Don't just take what you heard today. I was just talking about a very small portion of what I've written about in my PDF that's available for anyone to buy and download. And if you buy the digital copy, you'll help fund the print copy. So don't complain and say, oh, I want a print copy, or nowhere near there yet. 

But there's tons of really interesting information, and I've made it in a way so that people can model what doing. Like, I don't want this to just be like, oh, come to New Haven and learn about New Haven, wherever you are. Listening to this right now has some interesting, important history it's just waiting for you to learn about. So just read mine as a model and base your research off of that. 

If you just use it as a rubric or a formula, that kind of thing. A template. Yeah. Where can people find your stuff? Mark, this was great. I always enjoyed talking to you. And I know we didn't really plan anything today, but I knew we're going to be okay because there's just so much to still talk about. We can dig away at even the same topics. That's what people don't understand, that we're constantly doing research, even if it's the same topic, but you start to unfold a different layer of that same topic that'll just take you somewhere completely different that you wouldn't even have thought about going. 

But where can people find your work? Mark? Yeah. Thank you myfamilythinksomcrazy. com and you can get the PDFs there if you just scroll down. Or you can go into the descriptions in my episode links. When you're listening to the podcast, wherever you listen to it, you just click description and all the links are there. But just search my family thinks I'm crazy. Wherever you want to search it, I'll come up. 

There's nothing else by that same name, aside from maybe a few reddit articles from people who are desperate saying that their family thinks they're crazy. That's not me. I'm just the podcast. Yeah, awesome. Yeah. Post the links in the description and people know where to find me. Tjojp. com if you're listening to this on the RSS feed, leave a five star review. It helps the show share it with your friends and family. 

If you enjoyed this, check out Mark's podcast. He's got a great podcast. I listen to it all the time. He's got great guests and really great insight. And yeah, make sure to check out his work. Myfamilythingsumpcrazy. com. Make sure to check out the Occult of Smundy, the comic book marks in the first issue. All that good stuff. The homunculus owner's manual. Let me see if it'll focus. Maybe not. 

Whatever. Anyways. Homunculus owner's manual. You can find that on my website by Paranoid American. All that good stuff. What else am I not in? The other issues of the comic book, we just all get powers and then me and Chris split. They're not done yet, bro. We need help to fight the globalists and we need funding. So for those that want to see the next issues come out, sign up for the Kickstarter link in the description for issue two. 

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So thank you guys so much. This was a lot of fun. Mark and we'll do it again soon, brother. What's that thing you say at the end of your shows, bro? Can you say it? Yes. Immerse yourself in the moment, wherever you are in the now. I always do these hand motions, too. .