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Name pending. We'll see what it turns out to be. And today I got a guest named ANI Asaru, and he's from the Spiritual Shade Room. I know you through doing a couple podcasts with Tommy, Tommy, Truthful, Dona, a few others, and I feel like we connected on a couple of topics and I just wanted to get to know you a little bit more and I guess just do that through the series of this podcast. Yeah. Any, I just wanted to let you introduce yourself to the audience and let everyone know where to find you and what projects you got going on. Everything. Likewise, brother. Likewise, man. I came across your information. I was very excited to see that there is another esoteric occult community going on, breaking down information conspiracies and things happening. So I was thrilled to figure out that there were multiple cascades, these communities, and your work really caught my eye. And that last video we did, man, people still raving about it, using the same terminology up in my chat. So on Patreon had to look back, I said, what is this? I said, I saw this word, I said, oh, that's the word Thomas had used. I remember it now. Yeah, we're talking about the breakdown of the Dahmer series that we did on a Truth Mafia video, I believe. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It was Truth Mafia for the Gilgo Beach breakdown, but that's right. I'll put a link below. Yeah, you were on fire, bro. You were on fire. I think that opened up people to see what you're capable of with your information. I know you've been doing it very much longer than me. Me, myself, I've only been doing it for about ten years now. So we're going around 2014. 2015 is when I started and yeah, just break down esotericism. I consider myself a metaphysian. I get into spirituality. The physics of the soul is mainly what I get into with my information, my patreon, my YouTube just covers different topics of occultism, esotericisms, metaphysics, and of course, I do the breakdowns of the illuminati rituals that they've been doing on society. How to get out of the Matrix, how to get your mind back right where you need to be. That's pretty much the gist of what I do. What happened in 2014, 2015 that made you start? It started before then, brother. It's like something just came. Okay, I'll say this. I started seeing weird music videos. It seemed like the videos got kind of satanic when Rihanna started as an artist. And I remember her umbrella video. I was in college around this time, and they were showing the little demon figure, the Rain Man figure. I don't know if you ever heard of the Rain Man in music videos. I think it's I have not, no. What's? The Rain Man in Eminem. Eminem had a song called Rain Man, and it makes, like, a little demon face. But Eminem is the one that started this aggregoric entity. It's like a little metal face with hands coming out of it. I remember in my mind vividly, because way back then, I was a devouted Christian, so it scared the shit out of me. I was like, oh, what is this? And we started to play certain videos, and the Rain Man would pop up in different if you play the video backwards. Yep, that's it, right? Yeah, that little figure right there. So this is the Rain Man? Yeah, that's the show. I think that's Rihanna or somebody bending down. I can't remember what artist it was. And it makes, like, a head and a know okay, interesting. This reminds me of man, I wish I could remember the name of top of my head. There's this old conspiracy for the old country artists that you would meet some guy at a crossroads and he would give you the knowledge. It was like a song that a bunch of country music stars used to sing about selling your soul in exchange for, like a and I think it was in their Brother Where Art Thou? Or a few different movies where they kind of allude to it. I know what you're talking about. I know what you're talking about. I can't remember it too, but I know exactly. That was one of my favorite movies, brother, Where Art Thou? But yeah. So that's when I saw The Rain Man. That's when I started to get into the Illuminati stuff. Then I started decoding. And then, like, two years after that, I just dedicated my life into it. After coming across other metaphysical teachers in the community, then I started my own little gig of breaking down, little breakdowns and stuff. So you said you were basically a devout Christian, and then that's what I guess the juxtaposition of seeing something so illicit and just dripping with occult symbolism, that's what made you start noticing it and then want to go deeper into it. What specific was your upbringing, say, devout Christian? Did you have, like, a Baptist, Protestant? It wasn't a denomination, honestly, we didn't really go after one denomination, but it was a black church, so it was a lot of baptism mixed into it. But I went to a Methodist church school, and they were just doing all types of stuff up in there, bro. But I started to see in the church the contradictions. I would see them try to reprimand you for a certain behavior, and they were doing the same behavior. Then I was very young coming up in the church, and I started to notice, like, in my teenage years, there was a whole lot of I won't say scandals, but there were main ministers doing things with people in the public, and it was just out there. So I was like, Why? I thought this is all supposed to be innocent Christianity. None of this is supposed to happen. And the more and more I started to pay attention to what was going on, I said, Whoa, it may be more demons in the church than it is out here. When I started to figure out everything that happened but I'm not saying that to the mean religion, by all means, but I just noticed that when I got into metaphysics, it just made more sense. It clicked. The ancient information clicked to me. The symbolism started to show me things that I've been seeing my whole life that I wanted to understand. And as a Christian, I felt like it was almost celebratory, ceremonial repetition. It's just we get together, inspirational ceremony. Let me just say that. So we're inspirationally getting inspired by something by means of God, Jesus, or whatever happens in church. But I wasn't expanding knowledge into spirituality. It was nothing spiritual really about it, other than seeing people do the Holy Ghost dance and run up and down the aisles and stuff like that. Talking in tongues. Talking in tongues, yeah. What do you feel about that for now? I did a video, like, a couple of weeks ago. I figured out that it's kind of, like, connected to the Enochian text. What is it called? It the Glossia or something like that. Autoglossia, I think. Yeah, autoglossia. It's something like the light science and the DNA. There's a language that you can speak to certain entities. And I think in church when people actually say that, they fill in the spirit because some people lie and just pass out on the ground so the pastor can look. Yeah, there's an aspect where you're almost pressured to I mean, I've seen sermons where people are literally saying speak in tongues, speaking tongue, like they're yelling at each other to do it. So you've got this pressure to do it. So I think there's some that just are playing the act. They're playing the role. But then there's others that it obviously started from somewhere. And some people really do get possessed by something. So that's what you were getting into. What do you think it is? Yeah, because I remember when I was young, they would like, put the cross with the olive oil in my head and they would try to push you. They'll try to push your head and make you fall back. And then they'll lay a little blanket. That's that Peter Popov Industries trick. That's where they do. And it reminds me of Darren Brown and a lot of stage magicians and stage hypnotists that do the same thing. It's like a pattern break. It's when you do something really unexpected to someone, like coming up to you in church thinking you're going to be really gentle and if you just give them a quick BOP on the head, you know what I mean, then all of a sudden you change their mentality and you can give them any instructions. So if you BOP them and then be like fall down or fall back, if you're already suggestible some people are just like, I'm going to go with this, right? Hyper suggestibility I study hypnotism. And Mesmerism, that's a part of my science, artificial programming, the sleepwalkers or whatnot. I think that's what's going on with these celebrities now. But yeah, I mean, that's pretty much you're talking my language, man, because the mesmerism and that animal magnetism. And you just mentioned the artificial somnamulism that's somnamulism is like an old school way of saying sleepwalking. But it got more and more complicated since then because now we've got different types of sleep. But man, I really think you're onto something. To me, that's at the core of all this mind control and metaphysics and maybe just consciousness itself. I think Mesmer kind of tapped into that and he said too much. I think, you know what I mean? He wrote it down and he put it into ways that simple people could understand it. And then Mesmer turns into sort of like Miltonian Hypnosis at a certain point. And then that turns to NLP and so many threads that we can go on, man. So I wanted to start out I mentioned I've got like a little rapid fire list of questions. And it's just going to be the first number that pops in your head. One being like, I don't believe that at all. I think it's silly, and ten being like, I'm all in. So if you don't really care, if you don't have an opinion, like, a five is like a maybe, you know what I mean? Okay, so I just want to get, like, a temperature check, you know what I mean? Let's do it. All right. And it'll be like, ten or twelve or something. I'm not trying to overdo it. And then based on what you answer, then you will get a chance to go into some deeper. So if you feel like you got to justify something, just throw the number out, and we'll dig in. I'm all for it. Let's do it, bro. All right. And this is the first question. I was supposed to lead with this one way back when we first started. Okay. Any Asar? Are you a cop? Because if you're a cop, you got to tell me right now if you're FBI or if you're ATF or anything. Were you willing to do some drugs right now to prove it? I got some drugs under your chair if you look under you. No, I'm just kidding. Okay. One. I like that you're already in the mentality for the ratings. All right. Did Lee Harvey Oswald shoot JFK? I'm going to say one. One. Okay. Are ghosts real? Like, the way that we hear about it in movies? Are ghosts real the way we hear about it in movies? Yeah. You see, like, a floating half invisible no. All right. Is the earth flat? Five. Because I'm able to build we'll get into it. We'll get into it. Go ahead. Are dinosaurs real? One. Okay. Is the Mandela effect a real thing, or is it just people having false memories? Five. Okay, we'll get into that. We'll get into that. Were there hidden messages in the Beatles songs or in Led Zeppelin songs? Oh, yeah. Ten. Okay. Do crystal skulls possess special powers? Five. All right. Is Walt Disney's Body cryogenically frozen. Five. How much do you trust cryptocurrency? Five. And then do you think Mozart was murdered for revealing Masonic secrets? Five. All right, well, I want to jump into the flat earth one the most, man, because this is one of my favorite topics I'm still trying to wrap my head around. First of all, I'm just curious what you think about why do people like, why is flat earth a thing now? And it wasn't ten years ago. I mean, I'm assuming in 2014, it didn't come up nearly as much for you as it did for me, and all of a sudden, it's been vague over the last, I don't know, four years or so. I think the celebrities got into it. I remember a couple of rappers, bob had a crowdsourcing campaign for a while, right? And Bob, I know him, bob bought my book, and we talked a couple of times and he's real into occultism. He's very much into occultism. Hell, yeah. Is Kyrie irvin too? He's a basketball player. He brought it back in, like 2016. Then people were calling him dumb and stupid and stuff like that. Shout out Bob. There's Bob repping the paranoid American merch. Oh, really? So, yeah, Bob is an old school supporter of paranoid American. Shout out to Bob. What up, Bob? Yeah. My homeboy from Disney. Shout out to goodbye, robot. He does a lot of his background and live performance animations and stuff that go on in the background. So, yeah, shout out. He's an OG conspiracy theorist. Much respect. Much respect. And Bob is like down to earth, so he's not like these other artists. He'll pop up to a regular get together. He's not too he works for himself, which is pretty unique. He doesn't operate directly under a big massive label. That's him. So he gets to be his own boss, which is really dope. Exactly. But with the flat Earth, me, personally, I can only speak for me, I'm more of a get off of Earther. The reason why I don't subscribe too much into it, reason why I'm not so much into the Spear whole theory, is because I'm never going to have a plane or a rocket to see myself. You don't know that, man. You don't know that. Yeah, well, I don't know that. I don't know that. Would you get on it if they said you can get on a Virgin Galactic flight? It'll take you out into orbit so that you can see it. You wouldn't even get on it. No. Okay. I'm not getting into the penis. Would you get into the Shamir? Would you get into the little Titanic? I'm not getting into the dung beetle or whatever it is. Little worm ship either. But no, I'm just saying it could be because we have a lot of ancient texts that show symbolism, that we have a firmament. We have too much evidence of that in multiple cultures. But it could be esoteric. They could be talking about an inner realm. You get into the Nazi theory. Well, I can't say that word, but that whole theory of what is the inner Earth, not shambhala. They call it something else. Yeah, they had a few different names because they went to basically Indonesia or where was it? Not Thailand. There you go. There you go. Where the word Vril also comes from as well. Right. Varilla people like inner Earth, but I said it could be esoteric. They're talking about the inner black sun and how most flat Earthers think that the sun goes inside of the Earth. I don't know how you can believe that. And if you can prove it, I haven't heard about that one, that the sun goes inside the Earth. They said the sun isn't outside of the firmament. Like the sun isn't 90 million mile away. Oh, right. It's a localized sun. That's the theory that it's like way closer than we're led to believe. Right? They think it's inside of our atmosphere, basically. I guess it's more like they call it AONIC rings. I think that's what they refer to it as. It's like rings. I could show a chart of it, but it's like rings and stuff and it's the atmosphere of the Earth and there are these rings right above the atmosphere and stuff like that. So I don't know. All I must say is that we have a lot of ancient manuscripts that has symbology of a flat Earth, but it may be not explaining exactly something literal of a flat Earth, but I don't know. Well, you mentioned Hollow Earth, which is also something distinct from flat Earth. I mean, they can go hand in hand. It's one of those square and rectangle relationships. But the Hollow Earth usually when you say that, it also implicitly means that there's underground cities and that there's ways to traverse from one inside area of the Earth to another. This almost gets into like atlantean stuff. How much do you if you had to give that a score on one to ten, is that also a five? Just for the same reason that we have like underground, and I'm not talking about deep underground military bases where we exoterically do it. I mean, are there civilizations that are secret, that are hidden away? Like City of Ember style? I'm going to be real, bro. If you ask me that a year and a half ago, I'll say no, but today I'm more like probably so, man, probably so. Because I've seen some articles, some older articles about that. I think in Arizona they were speaking about it and I was like, man, this might be some legit information. I had to tell my crowd. It may be legit, I don't know. I don't have enough info myself to back all of the claims or the facts. But if you ask me today, I will probably say yeah, probably so. Have you ever heard of the nation of Gods and Earths and Yakub? Like five percenters? Yeah, the 5%. What do you think about that? Because to me that's Hollow Earth theory just told in a slightly different way. I'm not sure what's alluded to it about flat Earth or Hollow Earth. Will that be because Jacob did all of this underground for thousands of years and grafted giants and turned them into short little albinos and then sent them above ground, but there's apparently still supposed to be giants living underground. Oh, well, yeah. Well, I don't believe that. I don't believe Yaqub or Yaakov is a person. I think if it is true, it's talking about a group of scientists or engineers or a priesthood, more of a priesthood who practice cloning technologies or genetic. They were geneticists from way ancient geneticists or something like that. Experience big headed scientists is like the slang term for them. You don't like the 5% terminology for all that? No, I think probably the new ones, they sling that around. But if you talk to a couple of them that know what they're talking about, they know that's not real, man, like a big headed guy. That stuff is like esoteric. The big head represents information, and stuff is not literal. With these pictures and stuff they got out here. Do you think there's any religious texts that are literal, or do you think that they're all pretty much equally symbolic? I think they're all symbolic, esotericism. I don't think that there's one person, just my theory from studying all my years and looking at tracing it back to mythology, because everything starts at mythology, and then it goes into these religious theological texts. But mythology is nothing but describing physics, and they just gave characters the name of characters to these physics terms. So the same way you would describe electromagnetism, that will be Thor in the Nordic text. That's the description of electromagnetism. They even describe Mjolnir, his hammer as the heart. It represents the heart. So we're talking Esoteric texts, and people over time, they didn't understand it. And the Egyptians said the number one evil in the world is ignorance, which is not knowing. So if you don't know it, over time, people started to say, yeah, there was a blonde haired dude with a hammer running around striking lightning on people. It sells tickets, though, right? It sure does. So I think that that might be one of the angles that we connect on, maybe without even realizing it, because I'm definitely of the same mind, which is sometimes controversial, to assume that all religious texts are just highly symbolic and they're just different types of mythology. And I take it a step further, and I kind of consider modern day conspiracy theories the closest things that we're going to have to a new version of mythology, because the world is so secular and scientific now that I don't think that another mythology could kind of arise. So even when new religions come up, they're looked at as cults, and then it turns into a conspiracy, and then it's just all conspiracy theories. So conspiracy theories. And we asked you before about Lee Harvey Oswald and JFK. Right. To me, that's mythology now, like, when they look back a thousand years ago, they'll be like, oh, there was a great battle between the armies of Lee Harvey and JFK. Or I'm I'm grandstanding that a little bit, but I feel like it's just kind of the same thing. But I feel like maybe that's where we connect on that level. And looking at everything as highly Esoteric like Book of Revelations, I think, is pretty much as deep with occult symbolism as you could get. I used to be scared as hell when I was little, thinking about a big what was it? Ten headed beasts coming out of the ocean from the Book of Revelation, the Book of Revelations. I'm like, so how do you read that? Now, if you were to sit down and read the Book of Revelation now, what lens are you reading it through? Kabbalah. It's Kabbalah. That's all it is. The ten headed beast is the ten spirit. It's Kabbalah. It's describing kabbalah. It's describing the seven headed beast. There was a beast on land. There was a beast on Earth. It was a beast. I think we're the beast. I think man is the beast, just like they said. Six, six, six is number of man. And I think the physical realm within itself is the beast. The carbon rim is beast because carbon is six, six, six. Anything that exists in the physical has to have six, six, six. So six electrons, six protons, six neutrons, which is carbon. Everything to exist in this physical reality has to have carbon. So this reality, just from me looking at it, could be the beast in general. I think there's also layered ways to look at it semiotics, to even look at it deeper. Because I believe when you said today with mythology, it's actually a term called mythopulsis. There's a guy that sent me a document one time about it, like they're creating a mythopulsis, especially with that Q thing. I don't know if I could say that. So I'm just saying the Q thing you can say, say, and whatever you want. Okay, yeah. Well, QAnon is a mythoposis. And what did I mean by that? Just like how you have the JFK. QAnon is very much connected to JFK. By the way. There's a definition. You want to read it? Yes. It says, mythoposis is a narrative genre in modern literature and film where an artificial or fictionalized mythology is created by the writer of other literary forms. So they give an example of JRR token establishing, I guess, an entire world building within Lord of the Rings would be an example of this, which is a good I think that's a great example. Right? So, like, Lord of the Rings, they find or Harry Potter. Right? They find all the movies and action figures and trading cards and plushies and just everything dedicated to Harry Potter 10,000 years from now. And that's all they find. Right? They don't find copies of the Bible. They're like, well, they obviously venerated this hairy guy that was their savior. And it's because we've developed, like, a legit mythology, and then it's just up to the future to decide what they think of us. Man that's so excellent of an explanation of what's going on. So I think that the Jesuits are the writers, or I call them we identify who they are, but I call it cryptocratic governments, secret societies within secret societies within secret societies. That's how this thing goes. So I think they're the writers. They're out here portraying things. Speaking of Lord of the Rings, the player last year that played for the Boston celtics. His name was Was. He apparently died. I think he was murdered right after the famous he was the most famous Celtic player ever after the Celtics lost the championship, he passed away. And his nickname is the Lord of the Rings because he has the most rings in NBA. Yeah, that's him right here. He has the most rings in NBA history. Call him the Lord of the Ring. He has eleven rings. Eleven is the master number. And guess what? For the first time in eleven years, when he passed away, the month he passed away, they rereleased Lord of the Rings, the Rings of Power TV series. And it was the first time we've seen Lord of the Rings on TV stream. So I think the Jesuits are somehow stripped in this mythopulsis connected to the deaths and degenerate behavior of their sacrificial type of mind control they got out here or synomialism they have out here. And these people are nothing but characters. They're picking their basketball team. Doesn't look like it's very fire. Oh. That's the Jesuits. Yeah. That's the Jesuits. Yeah. Get ducked on all day, man. All yeah. That's that guy. His name is William Russell. And the person who started the Skull and Bones name is William Russell. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. That was a relative attached. Yeah. So they know him. Russell. It was another Russell connection a couple of weeks ago with some girl was faking a child kidnapping. Her last name was Russell. You put her name in in the Gematria. I'm real big in gematria. Her name equals 201. So it just keeps repeating of how they do these things, but they're stringing characters together one by one and it's like on a thread and they connect the rituals and whatever stuff they got planned 2000 years from now to these people. And this is the William Russell we were talking about a second ago. Yeah. And you were talking gamatria. I got to show you. This is actually a feature that I just finished it today that I think you might like. Cool. I got this occult decode site and for example, if I wanted to type in Skull and bones right, right. This isn't anything that nobody's ever seen before. A million gamatria calculators do the exact same thing. But I've been working on a new feature that it's going to basically search through all the results of gamatria across 16 different ciphers and then match any of those values with the values of any other ciphers. So for example, I just got 10,000 matches across 16 ciphers of that phrase skull and Bones. So like for example, Abraxis, right? Abraxis is 65 in trigrammaton kabbalah. And that 65 matches the 65 of keypad in Skull and Bones. So this is like a way that you can match any words with any other words and I'm not familiar with any other solution that gives you this many options. I mean, it literally has shown me. Like, 10,000 different results here in alphabetical order. What is the name of this? I might need to use that for my class in the morning. This is a Cult Decode, and I already got a link to you right here on the very bottom. You're right there. Okay. You're already on there, dude, I'm linking to the site already. Thank you, bro. If you got features or suggestions or anything, you just tell me and hit me up, man, and I'll add them to this thing. Great. Yeah, I'm going to use this. I got an intermediate Gematria class to teach in the morning. I'm going to definitely plug this in. I got to tell you, the Gamatria, I try my hardest to understand it, but it reminds me so much of math class and math homework that there's this tortured, sheltered little 13 year old inside of me that when all the numbers come up, he cries and starts doodling and drawing comics again. It's weird, man. Even if I want to snap out of it, I got to tell you, as I've been working on this calculator, because I have to get at least the math right to make sure that's the most important thing is that the numbers add up right. And then all the comparisons. But as I was working on this, I started having nightmares about being back in school again. But I didn't have my books, and I didn't have a pencil, and I didn't know where my classes were, and everyone just kept yelling at me. And I really do think it's just because of all the numbers and math that kept coming up in this again, right? Oh, man. Yeah, we don't want to send you back there. I often have dreams like that sometimes, too. Like, oh, man. The fear of staying back, like, three or four times in school. It's real, man. So, yeah, occult Decode. com and use it up. If you got any features you want to suggest, just let me know. And they're in there. And I think that's programming because if you look at how school is, it's just like prison. I saw a picture of that once, like, their trays of how they set it up and everything. School is just like prison. K through twelve is like prison. Even when you go to college, they don't even teach you how to run a business. They teach you how to work for a business. So I think even the Jesuit cryptocratic influence is how we receive our education, because the word education actually comes from a Latin word named Ejacare, and Ejacare means to draw out something. So you need to draw something out of the person. They're not drawing nothing really out of us, our potential at least, that they're just drawing out us to become their puppet or a slave or something like that. I'm actually curious about what you think of education today. If you care about are you familiar with the seven liberal arts, the quadrivium, the Trivium. Yes, and all. So, like, what do you think was the reason that they pulled all that out? Do you think it was just simply for control? Absolutely. The Moors used to teach at Salamenca University, and a lot of the early Europeans, greek philosophers would go to Salamenca to learn the seven liberal arts and the Quadrim and all of that from the Moors teaching this high science that is supposed to be a standard in education, period. They don't want you to be able to think for yourself because as soon as 100 people think for themselves, they realize that you really don't even need countries to function in your own functionality. You could just form that under yourself. You could start your own nation. You can start building your own type stuff. And they always want us to think that we have to go through them and their establishment for us to do something great. We could be building our own computers, have our own factories, doing whatever we want to do inventing something that they never even thought to invent. But what they do, they recruit people like you and me, people who have that mindset to think outside of the box, and they give them a buttload of money just to suppress and to control them and to keep the money circulating through whatever they have going on in this whole rig thing. So I think that's really what it is. And I got to say I'm probably guilty of that too, but I don't think it's at least in my opinion. I want to know what your opinion is on this. But I feel like it's not that the government has to come or like Facebook has to come and bribe you and be know, never talk about this, whatever. What they do is they'll just be like, hey, we'll give you this much money, but you have to deliver these unrealistic expectations. And realistically, you're not going to have free time to do anything else you want. You're not going to be able to create art or question your surroundings or participate in social movements because you need to be working. You've got to be in a meeting between those hours. And I feel like that's the real modern world version of bribery. It's just like, sit in that office and you get this paycheck and don't participate in don't say anything stupid, don't voice your opinion, don't have controversial opinions. Yeah, that's what it is. Time for creativity. That's the biggest thing, because all of us who have to work a nine to five, let's just say you didn't even have the ambition to start your own company or to do something outside of just working a common nine to five. You're working so hard because even today, 2023, a nine to five ain't what it used to be. You used to be able to get by supply for your whole family. Now you need about another person working in the house doing a nine to five. You need multiple. Well, you better have a couple of nine to fives, unless it's beyond minimum wage. Exactly. You're not surviving on minimum wage day. But let's just say even with the common, I think, like the average male in America makes around $30,000. There's no way you could survive in America with $30,000 a day. There's no way. Even on if your rent was $800, you're not surviving, man. So it's more they put that pressure on you, and then you have to work so hard, you go to sleep, you have to catch up with your sleep. And the time that you're spending sleeping is the time for you to create something outside of what they have you pouring into their companies and everything. So it's just a big cycle. If you ought to say who they is, who do you think they is? That's over it all, like, doing all of this stuff? Yeah, I mean, people just frequently will just use a placeholder. They like, they won't let you do this or they want you to do this. Who do you think the they is? If you could come the closest you can and I understand that it's not like this over simplistic thing where you can be like it's not group, but if you had to, knowing that we're just going to generalize here. Is it freemasons? Is it hollywood? Is it Israel? Who is it? It's the Jesuits. Man I tell people it's the Jesuits. I have ample evidence it's the Jesuits. That's who it is. If you could type this in, Thomas, put in the Gamatria calculator. No, just type it in on your search engine. Type in Jesuit conspiracy theories. Oh, boy. I actually was just talking to one of the relatives, the son of Nundayer, called a conspiracy, which is heavily steeped in this Jesuit conspiracy stuff. That's like the OG book from the 50s. I'm telling you right now, bro, if you go back to that top picture up there, that picture is showing the Jesuits sabotaging things going on in history. Literally. They have like a bomb in their head. If you read the capture, bro, those could be those localized sons, too, man. Inside the firmament. Look at that. Everything, bro. I'm telling you, these people and if you read the article, you guys go and read it. I know Thomas probably don't have enough time to read through it. It's like people throughout history saying, like, yo, it's the Jesuits. It's them. And they say that they're so powerful. They have the biggest influence, political influence. There's another one right? Know the dragon or and they're called the Catholic Church's assassins. They're the military of the but they're called their nickname is the Society of Jesus. And it makes sense because if you really ask the question, do people worship Satan today? A lot of people say, yeah, they worship Satan, but the truth of the matter is, no, they don't. Most people worship Jesus, man. Let's just keep it real. Yep. They're behind the French Revolution, all of this stuff, man. I'm telling you, if you read that article, I sent something to the group the other day. They even think that the Jesuits created Humunculus gray aliens and made everybody up. There it goes again right there. Skeptic, baum, plus some Polish name that I can't pronounce. Also claims that Phelps told them gray aliens are not aliens, but creations of Jesuit science. That sounds like a homunculus, right? The creation of Jesuit science, that's a yeah, yeah, man. And if you look in any of these movies, they always got their symbol, the IHS symbol. In the New Day clone Tyrone movie, they got the just it's the Jesuits. Yeah. There you go. You put the right person on the one's. Interesting. So you asked the question I want to get your answer on, but, like, is Satan and Jesus real? For example, if you walk in and there's a bunch of people in a dark room and they've got candlelight and they've got the pentagram on them, they're clearly doing a Satanic ritual. Right. Do you think that if you jumped in and you grabbed hands with them and joined their circle that something evil just happened, that you now have bad karma, anything at all happens? Or do you think that's all just like hardcore role playing and LARPing, or do you think there's actually something you could do to offend God in that process? No, I don't think there's nothing you can defend God to offend God. No. Someone was like, we're going to summon a demon tonight, and you don't have to cut yourself or anything, but they legit. Think they're going to summon Baphomet or Beazzlebub or enter whatever gap. Would you be like, yeah, sure, let's do it. I'll watch you do it. I'll hang out. I wouldn't hang out or participate in it. Me, in my mind, if they were serious, let's just say they were serious, they just be kidding around. I wouldn't think they had the proper occult science or the intelligence probably to even summon a demon or angel or something like that. You have to be very ingrained. You have to develop magnetic resonance, because I don't even believe really in demons like that. I'm more in gnosticism archives and things. The word demon is etymology, root is daemon. But there are aggregors. Thomas aggregores of Jesus in Satan exists. And you know, I'm talking about a group collective projected. Yeah. Explain to me what your interpretation of aggregors is, because this is an interesting topic for me. All right, let's give an example. Me and you get a group of ten people, and let's just say we're very powerful people. All we do every day. Wutang Clan. Let's say we're wutang clan. Yeah, we're wutang clan. So Wutang Clan comes together at 06:00 P. m. Every day, and we close our eyes, and we envision an entity, and we name an entity. And every day at 06:00 P. m. , our job is to meditate, do whatever you said within the middle of the circle and create this entity. And all we're trying to do is create a conscious field for this entity to fill inside of itself. Then we have the power to print the name of this entity into articles, into books, into history. We've now created aggregore. And now everybody who sees the confirmation in the books, the literature, and the history, they'll say this thing existed as something real, but really it was a projected conscious field of a group of people that even when they die, the entity becomes autonomous within the consciousness of people in the future. So if you got, like, a bracelet that says, what would whoever do the whoever is the aggregore. Right? Because it's like a person that may or may not even have existed, but you're saying, like, they did exist, what was going through their mind? How would they make a decision here? So would you consider, like, Walt Disney an astral? Whatever we can remember of him past him leaving the body can become an Aggregor. So his astral form is a memory. That's all. What? The astral plane is a memory. How we hold on to our ancestors is through the astral form that we instill in our memory of them. So in our memory, yes, in the Disney family, walt Disney does exist as an Aggregor. There's people in his family who remembers him, and he comes to them in different forms of how they remembered him in their dreams. So he's a conscious field somewhere, but it's like a family. Yeah. What would your ancestors what would great grandpa do and great grandpa give me some advice through these giant times? I don't want to know what Walt Disney you mentioned a little bit earlier Anoki and magic, and then you mentioned kind of like aggregors and daemons. So if you don't believe in the conventional angels and demons, I guess, the way that a lot of people seem to describe them, what do you think about King Solomon and his magic seals and the ability to take these seals and use it to rule over, I guess, what we could call an aggregore or a spirit or a daemon, as opposed to a demon. Do you think that was also all symbolic, or do you think there was anything real to some of that? King Solomon never existed. King Solomon never existed. Hiram ABIF never existed. These are, again, like a conscious energy form for a person to assume authority of it's. Like, the degrees and masonries are also degrees and consciousness within yourself. So you're striving to become Solomon and have control over the goatia. That's what they're called these 72 demonic spirits of the Shim hamperash. Right. The lesser key is of Solomon's, another version of it. Exactly. And what that is is the 72 demons. There are 72 demons, there's 72 angels, and together is the 144 and what they're speaking of. You ever heard the saying that you only use 10% of your brain? The 90% of your brain is the goatia. It's a force in the subconscious plane that we neglect because we're not taught how to use the subconscious plane for ourselves. The magicians, the Jesuits, these black magicians study the Moorish science, the Egyptian science. What do you call those people that worship stuff in the forest they demonize so much? Oh, you mean like the Wiccans and druids and nature magic. There's something called chaos magic. Chaos magic is I'm going to take a little bit from the Wiccans. I'm going to take a little bit from yoruba African people. I'm going to take something from the Native Americans. I'm going to take something from over here, and I'm going to just use it all. I don't know if you heard of a suicide. When you go to the drink machine and you just put, like, some Dr. Pepper and some Coke and some Sprite and some root. Yeah, it's kind of like you just get it. But there's a formula that you see identical in each system. You'll find some type of identical thing in each system, just like you can find the myth of Jesus in Egyptian mythology of Heru. You'll see some similarities know, and you'll see it in other, like Quesoquato here in America. You'll see some things reminiscent of how they said in the Bible, jesus life went also osiris and stuff like that. So what they've done, they created this magic system, and they've learned how to tap into the 90% of the subconscious plane. They learned that, and I won't say they've mastered it, but they're damn good at it. And they're teaching their generations of kids that's connected to their orders how to carry this off into the next generation. This guy's picture came up when you were talking a little bit earlier about the mythopedia. I can't remember the word already, but it's when you make, like, an artificial mythology. It had a picture of Joseph Campbell there. And this what you're talking about now reminds me of his book Hero of a Thousand Faces, where he just shows here's this cyclical archetype of a hero that every single god kind of fits into this exact same story. So you got virgin births, you've got attempted unalivement, you've got being exiled from your city, fall from great. So this kind of follows this whole sort of storyline. It's almost a formula. I mean, I would say it's a mathematical formula almost, yeah. This is union parapsychology. And each and every one of us, we live our own personal mythology, and the mind within itself is going through this dissecting of how that map, the hero's journey is going on. This is the only thing that we're going through within our life and everything that we're experiencing between different people. If you look at this chart that's being shown right here, you're going to see in the description of these things because some people describe it different ways, but it's happening to you every day. So I'm curious. We also were talking about dinosaurs a little earlier, and you gave dinosaurs a one. Bro, I want to know. So, first of all, a qualifier, I understand if the one is like how the Tyrannosaurus rex is presented at the Museum of Natural History, and here's exactly how the bones are laid out and all that, if they got it a little bit wrong, or if there's a little bit of financial investment to make sure that someone's not like, actually, you missed the part, or that thing goes over there. Is that the one or is the one? Like, they never actually existed, the bones are completely fake, or the bones came from a different species entirely? Where are you at on this? I want to know more. The bones are fake, man. I'm sorry. From scratch. Someone just sat down and was like, I'm going to make a fake bone and tell me more, man. Tell me more about they plagiarize a history of these reptilian beings. If you look at the bone structures, there's some books you can find. I could actually find one of these videos that I looked into. It was a guy way back then. I can't remember his name now. But he was very prominent in the whole what is the study of big of dinosaurs, whatever, the study of dinosaur. He was very prominent name. And he was saying that the dinosaurs were the bones was fabricated. They were buried in certain places for certain people to be able certain powerful people will get the chance to name a dinosaur. So they'll say, hey, we've buried this bone, these fake bones here. You can take your team of excavators or whatever you call them and go there and dig them up. And we'll let you name this dinosaur, and we'll let you name this dinosaur, and your families will be set up of being the family who named the Stegosaurus from now on in history. And really, these bones are all fake. They're not authentic. And you see, they ask, is it fake? Is it fake? If you got to ask the question, absolutely, they're fake. Now, I'm not saying that there haven't been large reptilian beings that ever walked the Earth, but I think the dinosaur theory, they never show one thing I noticed, they never show the Tyrannosaurus penis or whether it has a vagina to the female. That they never show that type stuff. Even in pictures when you look up in books, they never show the procreation of how a Stegosaurus would yeah, you see go to that picture right there. Yeah. How does it happen? You see, how would that happen? Interesting. I didn't think I was going to be searching Tyrannosaurus Rex penis tonight, but here I am. Now we're getting to, like, a furry category. I don't know if this is legit. Yeah, now they get into that. I don't know. It's a valid question, man, I guess that is a good question. Oh, look at that. Is this the anatomy of dinosaur sex? Oh, Lord. Here it goes. Imagine being the scientist. It's like, okay, we got to put together this new display for the kids. Yeah, somebody high up. Hey, you better get those. They're asking questions about how they're doing this. You better put something together for them and typing dinosaur necks. Yeah, what about these dudes? Right? What about the brontosaurus? Yeah, that's a good question, man. It would have to involve the neck, right? It would have, yeah. How would it happen? Bro, I'm telling you, bro, I got to tell you, man, I was at an eight. A seven or an eight. But the question of how did a Tyrannosaurus or a Brontosaurus mate? I'm at a five now. I'm at a six. I'll be real. I'm at a six. So if you still had gun to the head, I'm still going to say dinosaurs are real, because that programming is, like, deep inside my brain, but I'm like, way closer to the maybe line now, man. I appreciate that. That's what it was. It was a paleontologist. A paleontologist. It was a famous paleontologist that did it. I'm going to send you the video. I'm going to send you this video of the guy who did the research. Yeah. After you see it, you would be like, wow, he probably didn't exist. I don't know. Yeah, I like how it just fixes the spelling now. Okay, this one actually looks reasonable. That's the rational view of what you would assume, right? Something like that. Something like that. But it's still of course, it's some German dude. Yeah, I don't know. All right, man, I appreciate that. That one I wasn't expecting, man. And I think that it's a valid point. It brings up another interesting linkage there that so much of science is based on these dudes with the egos and being able to name something after themselves. That's kind of the crown achievement. One is that you get funded by a whole bunch of stuff, and then the other one is just like recognitions and awards. And I think that crowning achievement is something gets named after you, like some weird beetle or a disease, maybe, if you're not as lucky, you know what I mean? Stuff like that. But that, I think, shapes the type of stuff that we learn. And then also imagine if let's just say for a second that all the dinosaur bones are fake and you get this bone into some museum, and then it's got, like, the oniosaurus, you know what I mean? Like your own dinosaur. And then you've got a legacy. And all the people that believed you and backed you, they've got legacies of their own. And everyone's like, my uncle worked with Aniyasaru, and they discovered Osaris. And now there's, like, a concerted and really an intention for people to want it to be true and to fight against anyone that says it's not true. And then you could just be like, well, then why know great great Uncle ANI get all these millions of dollars from the government and the Smithsonian if it's not true? And now it's like, well, the Smithsonian, the government can't look like idiots for pumping money into this thing that never so, I mean, I understand that it might have just been, like, a lie that got out of hand, but I don't know if I'm ready to accept dinosaurs are not real at all. But I appreciate that approach of it's science lying, as opposed to, I guess the other version of that is like Satan buried a bunch of bones to trick you into going to hell or something. I don't know. Yeah, I could dive deep into that, but it could be something connected to the story of the Nephilim. I'm not believing that they were dinosaurs, but it could be something connected to some type of group of beings. I don't know if they were reptilian or not. That was here, and they were wiped out, and some billionaires came together, and some people that didn't have a billion dollars yet, but just some smart people came together and said, hey, this would be a good theory. This is how we could do it. And they probably found the bones of a couple of real frozen I don't know, things that's out there, or what do you call it when the oil fossilizes it petrified. Petrified it. And they say, well, let's just make it into something. And they got somebody to do the mathematics. And all it is that the bones got to be like, they know how to read. They've never done that before. They wouldn't do that. That's how deep I get with I think I don't know what the search term would be, but if you look for original pictures of the pyramids that they find in Mexico and all these places, they don't look anything like the way that they trim them up and make them to look like. Now, where it's got all these intentional shapes and figures cut out, they still were obvious platforms and structures that were interesting, but they completely change what it looks like now. So people get these weird ideas in their mind about how the ancient world used to look. Yeah. Tartaria. Yeah. What do you think about Tartaria, man, I think there's some truth to Tartaria. I think that there was a land or a civilization of people who use a certain cymatic technology, and I think something got out of hand with whoever they were, I don't know, at war with. And they say that some of the lands, the frequency of certain mechanations that they were using caused some type of mud flood and the mud flood is what sunk a lot of their top prime areas that they were settled at. So if you really dig into the Earth in certain places, you'll see that there's places that's built on top of other places. And we know that just in the modern era of places, there's a lot of things that you can dig and find something from a couple of hundred years ago. So for me to say, hey, about four or 500 years ago, there was a civilization with advanced technologies, and they found some things buried up under different lay lines in certain areas. And they called themselves the Tartarians. There was an empire called Tartaria. We know over there in Crimea, over there by Ukraine, they found the actual home, one of the homes of the Tartarians. The flag of Crimea is the same Tartarian flag that they found on a map. So we know there were a group of people that called themselves the Tartarians. Now to say that the civilization how large or how expanded it was, but I think it's more like an era. When we say Tartaria, we're talking about an era of a certain advanced technologies that people kind of found evidence of. But yeah, if you ask me, I think it was advanced technology. And I think that there is civilizations buried up under other civilizations. If you go digging far enough, a lot of people have different interpretations on what Tartaria is and means. I guess the one that I feel most comfortable relating to is like the like, you might have been a phoenician, but that didn't necessarily even say what country you're from or what gods you believed in. It just kind of referred to the fact that you were maybe a maritime trader or if not, your livelihood depended on maritime trade, and therefore you were kind of a phoenician. Aka, I guess, a canaanite, depending on where you're coming at it from or know, it all depends on the region and the time period they're talking about. And I guess Tartaria was like that, but it's for Eurasia Minor, I guess, or like part of Russia modern day Ukraine area. What kind of technology do you think the ancient cultures used to have? You mentioned cymatics. So, like being able to levitate really heavy objects and create huge megastructures. Right. Is there anything else that you think they had? Do you think there was like, teleportation or flying or lasers or any other thing that's like super cool? It's possible. I'm not sure. Evidence of teleportation. If it was teleportation technology, it was more metaphysical hyperdimensional from astral projection projecting out of the body. More of a teleportation. Maybe they had some type of intergalactic commerce dealing with that in portal physics, dealing with how portals can open up specifically inside of the person. Because I think we get too much into literal things. CERN machine, all of this stuff out here, are they going to. Be able to open portals. The portals are mainly inside of the mind and our etherical bodies, I believe. And I think they had access of how to get into other levels of the etherical and astral body. Definitely. I also think their science or their comprehension of the science they had with alchemy, they could produce certain what would you call it, substances that will cause things to float. Like, I read in a book one time that there was an alchemy of creating this white dust. And if you rub the dust it was back in, like, Egyptian times. If you rub the dust on certain objects, the object will float just from you rubbing dust on it. So I don't know. I haven't heard that before. That's interesting. It's in the book. I think it's in Peter Moon's book. Peter Moon has a book on it. I can't remember which one of his books is, but it's called the Believe. And yeah, they were able to this alchemical substance, they were able to rub this substance, and they even said that the substance had spirits in it. If you were a certain magician, a priestess or priest, you were able to actually communicate with this substance. They were even able to liquefy it and put it in a flask. And they said that whole aladdin thing with the gin came from this substance called it was called bitumin Occultum. And the word Occultum is your pre word before you get burial, from what I read in the Theosophical text. So I think they were able to use alchemy on a level that connected on an intergalactic spiritual level, and that's how they got their technologies. The communications between the sciences that they use were giving them abilities to understand physics of things that today I think it's bitubmen. Bit two men. Yeah, I think that's what it's called. There you go. Mummy powder. Is that one of know? I don't know. I think that might be it. But this is wild. Yeah, well, you look up Peter Moon, he has it in his books. I can't remember which book it is. Yeah, look at this. The etymology of the word mummy is worth noting. Momia is a Persian word for asphaltum known as bitumen of Judea or a natural asphalt. So it sounds like maybe this is what you're talking about. Bitumen is a viscous form of petroleum that appears to sweat or tear, soft, drop off itself off the harder parts of the substance. Interesting, man. Yeah. 1400 referred to in a medieval manual. Okay. Yeah. So like, the priests, they didn't want to be dug up. The priests in Egypt, none of them were mummified, because I think that it was something in a book, like they thought they could see in the future. So they thought if they mummified their bodies, they'll be able to clone them. So what they did, they would either burn their bodies up or they would put it in a flask, like dust or something like that. And they found this bitumen. And the bitumen they said back then, priests were able to use it to speak to the priest whose body was turned into it. Interesting, I've never heard of bitumen before. It also says here in what book is this? The occult virtues of things from Cornelius Agrippa. It says, bitumen which with the weapons of the Amazons were said to be smeared over by which they could be spoiled by neither sword nor fire, which also the gates of Caspia made of grass, reported to be smeared over by Alexander upon the Great. We also read that Noah's Ark was joined together with his bitumen and that it endured thousands of years upon the mountains. That's interesting, man. I've never heard of that before. It sounds like almost like a spiritual cement, right? Like it's like a special damn. Yeah, I think Tommy will call it black goo. Yeah, I guess he probably so I want to be mindful of your time. I think that you said you had something to do a little bit later tonight, so I want to wrap it up and let people know once more where to find you, although it'll probably be more of your viewers when I release this, watching this instead of mine. So welcome to paranoid American. But also in the future, where can people find ANI Osaru in the Spiritual Shade Room. You guys can find me on YouTube at ANI Osaru. You can find me on Instagram. I post almost every other day. You can connect with me at the Spiritualshade Room and you put the number one. And you can find me on my patreon where I teach spiritual classes, gematria classes@patreon. com. Th e spiritualshade room. There you go. And then here's your link tree, too. We got all your different links there. Yes, that's it. And I had a great time today, brother. We got to do another one where we have a little bit expanded time so we can get into these discussions. And I got to have you on my platform. Yeah, man. I mean, this was just like a quick introduction to get to know you, for my audience to get to know you. But I feel like we got some research projects in our future where we can go deep on a few topics. I feel like there's so many interesting topics that people get into, but it's like the same surface level stuff and just, like, repeating things that have been in books since forever. There's got to be more than just connecting it. There's got to be like, okay, now do more research on this person that nobody knows information about. And that's what I think we can be doing. That's great, bro. I think we could do that. Let's get back together and do that, bro. I'd be very much interested in that. We'll build, man. Thank you again, ANI, for stopping by. Lots more to come from the both of us. And I just want to remind everybody that if you're not paranoid at this point, you're definitely not paying attention. Right? Right. Peace, y'all. They said it was forbidden. 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