Edge of Wonder Live In Person: Montauk Project UFOs

➡ Ben and Rob host a live show on Rise TV where they discuss various topics like The Montauk Project, UFOs, and strange discoveries of the week. They also answer viewer questions and share bizarre news stories. In one segment, they discuss the Mandela Effect, specifically the disappearance of a robber emoji and a seahorse emoji that many people remember but apparently never existed. They also talk about the new season of Stranger Things and its theme of time travel, and discuss the Montauk Project’s alleged creation of “jump rooms” for time and space manipulation.
➡ The text discusses the Montauk Project, a secret government operation that allegedly explored mind control, time travel, and psychic warfare. The project, which is said to have inspired the TV show Stranger Things, involved experiments that manipulated physical matter and time. The text also mentions the possibility of sending messages through time using particle accelerators and quantum computers. Lastly, it discusses the experiences of individuals who claim to have been experimented on as part of the project.
➡ A man recalls his experiences at a mysterious facility, where he saw futuristic equipment and other children. He believes some of these children were killed, and the facility had secret underground bases. He later found remnants of an old house near the facility. The man also discusses a mind control project, similar to the MK Ultra, involving technology that could wipe or install memories. He relates this to a chair from the movie Total Recall and the Montauk Project. The man’s fascination with the Montauk Project leads him to investigate a radio signal from the area, where he encounters a homeless man who claims to remember him. This encounter, along with a strange visit from a man claiming to be his manager, leads him to believe he’s leading a double life and his memory is being manipulated.
➡ A man named Preston Nichols, who is an expert in radio frequencies and electro engineering, stumbles upon a secret project he was unknowingly a part of. He discovers his involvement when he finds his name on a desk in a classified area. This discovery leads him to investigate the Montauk Project, a mysterious operation involving a psychic and a device called the Montauk Chair. As he uncovers more, he goes public with the information to protect himself, revealing that the project was experimenting with brain frequencies and 3D imagery of thoughts, which had strange effects on the local population.
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➡ The text discusses various conspiracy theories, including the CIA’s surveillance, the use of advanced technology like 5G and quantum computers, and the existence of alien technology. It also mentions the Montauk Project, a supposed secret government project involving time travel and mind control. The text suggests that children were used in these experiments due to their mental resilience. Lastly, it discusses the stealth bomber technology, suggesting it’s more advanced than publicly known, and speculates on the existence of even more advanced, classified technology.
➡ The text discusses the intriguing aspects of the Stranger Things series, particularly the involvement of the Department of Energy. It also mentions the Montauk project, which was allegedly funded by a lost Nazi train’s gold and powered by energy from ley lines. The text ends with an invitation to join a live Q&A session on Rise TV and a promotion for their yearly deal.

Sam, It’s. Hey, everyone. Welcome on this Edge of Wonder Live. Join us, Ben and Rob, as we cover the history of The Montauk Project, UFOs, this week’s Bendel Effect, the metaphysical minute segment, and the weirdest discoveries we found from this week. Yeah. On our Rise tv Rise TV platform during our Dig Deep Live Q and A segment, you can ask us your questions directly. Then finally, in a fan Favorite top 10 weirder news of the week, hear hilarious and bizarre stories such as dumb criminals, the strangest gift you’ll ever want to receive, a RoboCop statue and a vampire squid from hell.

So looking forward to that. Me too. Who’d win in a fight, RoboCop or the vampire squid from hell? That is a good question. Right? Sounds like a comic book. I know. It really does. And with that, we’ll see you out on the Edge. Hey, guys. So we were gonna go live on YouTube, but it. We decided to wait a little bit longer and. But we’re here in person. That’s right. Coming on our own platform. Rise TV and Rumble right now and. Yeah, and we have a good show for you guys. Absolutely. It’s good being here. Except it’s cold.

But it is cold. It is cold where we are. Yes. Getting used to that with the being in Florida for so long. But you know, I was like. You know, I was in mean. I grew up in Ohio and New York and it was like. I don’t know. I think I’m just so tired of the cold that I’m enjoying. That’s why most people move to Florida. Yes, I guess so. It’s true. Partly. It. Well, why don’t we start off the show with. So this. I found this interesting Mandela effect in our. Of course you do. Yeah.

We always do start off with Mandela effect. So let’s get into that. Do you remember a robber emoji? Yes. On our Google. It was like a bandit or Apple phone. Yeah, that. That’s. That’s what I remember having. Wearing like a. A mask. A mask. And you could see his eyes. Like, I remember this now. Now there was a. A form that somebody posted. Let’s see. I think. Lindsay. Lindsay, can you bring that? Yeah. Something like. Something like this. It wasn’t quite this. Like. I remember dark detail. I kind of do too. But I remember that I remember a money bags.

And I started looking into this because I saw this and someone was like, it doesn’t exist. And it doesn’t exist. You’re. And I. I remember because I swear I’ve even used it Before. Yeah. As like a bandit. Yeah. Because every time I would type in the. Because I would type in the word band in the past and I remember that it would come up. Come up. What is it? Yeah, so Lindsay just brought this up and it says, that’s interesting because most people say they remember a side view with the bag over the shoulder and he’s like.

He’s like running and there’s like a side view. And I, I remember that one too. Both of them. Yeah. Doesn’t exist. And then I thought, well, you know, maybe they changed it because of all the time. Whatever woke stuff for, you know. Yeah. Trying to like get rid of things. Turns out it was never. They never even had it built into the. The Unicode. And so it wasn’t removed. It was never even designed to begin with. I don’t know if I buy that because. So you can go to. This is a real thing, Emojipedia. Instead of, you know, Wikipedia, you go to emojipedia.com and it tells you every single one of them that’s ever been, including the seahorse.

That we all remember is not on this. That’s another one that we are. So the seahorse and the robber. The robber are missing. Yes. No results for the seahorse. Remember the seahorse? Yeah, the sea. We did the sea. We covered the seahorse because it was so mind blowing. So many people remember it. People were saying it was different colors. Some people thought they remember it yellow. Some people were saying it was like purple or green or something. Whatever the case, people remember the seahorse. I remember it very clearly. It doesn’t exist. That’s weird. And they were like, nope, we never had one.

It’s not that we removed. It never existed. Same thing with this robber. One never existed. So I don’t know what to make of that. I don’t know what to make of it either. Very strange stuff. I just feel like there’s like more and more of this stuff just keeps coming out. And now with, you know, we’re going to get into this topic, but with. You haven’t seen the new Stranger Things yet, right? Yeah, no, I’ve seen the first two episodes. I haven’t seen the last. Okay, you saw the first two, but not the last two. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. Because you have to understand, like, I. Every time one of the new Stranger Things season drops, I start from the beginning and watch everything up until that point again. Yeah. And so I watched all four seasons and then I only got done with the fourth season earlier this week. And so then I started Watching. And I got two days in where I. I had time to watch. Well, it’s probably a good thing anyway. We didn’t want to reveal too many spoilers, but I think the general overall theme is time travel. With this one. Sure.

And, you know, that’s what’s kind of interesting. And we can talk a lot about time travel. Yeah, we sure can. Which we’re going to. We’re going to have a conversation about. About all of this. But you have your metaphysical minute, which is about. It is Stranger Things. It is. And then we’ll start having this whole conversation about it, too. So. Lindsay is currently crawling on the ground under camera right now. Like, I’m gonna crawl on the ground, like, instead of going around like a normal person. So she. It’s funny. Okay, so the metaphysical minute. This week we have a second.

We have about four episodes on metaphysical coming out, all revolved around Stranger Things. And this week’s drop was a podcast that John and I did specifically about some of the more bizarre claims in the Montauk Project that have to do with jump rooms that they created through this technology. And the jump rooms, you know, classic jump rooms that they talk about or that people throughout, you know, disclosure history have talked about, have been to other planets, and not necessarily to other times, but what they did that was so ridiculously crazy in the Montauk Project, allegedly, is that there was this thing called the Montauk Chair, which is like a lounge chair, like a Professor X lounge chair, where a psychic would sit, and they would throw out basically, thought forms, and the massively powerful Sage radar would materialize the thought forms.

So you could do all kinds of things with that. You could materialize objects on the base at Camp Heroes. And one of the things that they found that they could do was that they could manipulate time and space. So that means that they could throw wormholes to other time spaces that people could jump through and. Or other planets. And so at least the first record we have of jump rubes existing occurred in the Montauk Project, as far as we know. And they were using that technology to do all kinds of crazy things. And we go over that in this episode on the podcast, and John and I have a really interesting conversation all about that that you should check out on the channel.

And we also talk a little bit about the whistleblower Preston Nichols. Now, this is episode one of two in the podcast series on Stranger Things. And the next podcast will be publishing next week. Is that right, Lindsay? Yes, yes. So it will be published. Yeah, she’s Looking, but I’m pretty sure it’s, It’s. It’s publishing next week. Next week is the telekinesis Teleportation. Oh, next week is telekinesis and teleportation. Well, there you go. The next podcast episode will be the week after that. Yeah, the 18th. And that’s all about Preston Nichols story, which will be very interesting.

All of the. The next episodes will be all about Preston Nichols and weird stuff that would seem to correspond with the, the series Severance from, from what I’ve heard, because I’ve been too cheap to buy Apple tv. I saw the first season of Severance, but not the second yet. Everyone, I mean, everyone says it’s like, really amazing and there’s like some ties to old Montauk. But, you know, whether that’s just a coincidence, I, I. Probably not. I doubt all of this stuff comes from somewhere. Right. I know. It really does. Yeah. Well, it’s kind of interesting too, because, I mean, I’m.

We’re. You know, one of the episodes that I’m writing is about CERN and realizing, especially with quantum computers and what’s happening, related with time travel. And I’m starting to understand that they’ve broken through that barrier, not like necessarily sending a person in time, but I think they’ve achieved. I mean, that’s. Theoretically, that’s what’s going on with quantum computers. They’re sending information, information to these other dimensions that are like faster time spaces and receiving that back. So essentially, what’s. What’s any different from figuring out like, oh, we can go to a different dimension. Why can’t we just go to a different time space where maybe that’s the past or the future? And it seems that, you know, maybe they could send.

Maybe they figured out how to send messages through time using like a particle accelerator. So it’s not like opening a portal and people are coming in and out necessarily like Stranger Things or Stargate or, or Stargate, but more of like, information on, like, neutrinos or something, communication. And I think that that is something that they’ve achieved. So like, for example, if the military, if, you know, if they’re like, oh, let’s send a message to ourselves. Maybe we lost this war, and let’s send a message to us telling us how to win or how to build technology that doesn’t exist yet.

Right. They could theoretically send that information to the past using particle accelerator and quantum computer. And then if it. But it’s up to us to receive that on or whoever to receive that. Which is weird, because in the Montauk Project, one of the things that they got obsessed with was sending people forward in time to obtain exotic technologies that we had developed in our. In our. Our future. I guess you could say that makes sense. So, I mean, if I was the military and I wanted to win all wars and conquer whatever, you know, I mean, that’s what I would be working on.

Well, and I think. I think all of this makes sense from the. From the standpoint of the military being obsessed with obtaining more technology to win, to be ahead of everyone. Right. That’s what all of this was for. What technology can they build? How. How advanced can they make it? I don’t think they would care. No, no general is going to care about the most absurd means of obtaining technology as long as they have that technology. So. Yeah. So anyway, go check that episode out on the Metaphysical Channel and give our episode a hype, if you can.

That’s a new feature underneath the video. You can kind of scroll over and hit the hype button. And that will help us reach more people. Oh, yeah, sure. Go ahead. A highly classified government operation called the Montauk Project was allegedly conducted behind closed doors to crack the secrets of mind control, time travel, and psychic warfare. One of the project’s whistleblowers was Preston Nichols, a radio and electrical engineer whose expertise in electromagnetic phenomena made him valuable to the military defense contractors, and who were operating the project. But what Nichols revealed about their experiments seems almost too much to believe.

Portals to other dimensions. Beasts and creatures unleashed by the minds of trained psychics. Physical matter manipulated just by thoughts alone, and even time travel. This Montauk Project sounds like something straight out of Stranger Things. In fact, did you know that Stranger Things was originally going to be called Montauk? Yeah, there’s a reason. And it was allegedly inspired by real events. Maybe psychic powers and mind warfare aren’t just things of fiction after all. Let’s go over the most bizarre events that supposedly took place. The government experiments that led up to the Montauk Project. The truth about the Philadelphia Experiment.

And then we’ll hear John’s remote viewing data about Preston Nichols himself. Stranger things and more. That should shed some light on this mystery. Join me, investigative researcher Rob Counts, and John Vivanco for a metaphysical show that’s out of this world. If you’re listening to the metaphysical. There you go. Awesome. So, yeah, we’ll be getting into more about the Montauk Project here on this episode, which will be pretty. Pretty fun stuff. Did you have anything else to go through before we start? No, why don’t we play a trailer and we’ll come back and we’ll just start getting into everything.

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Well, because we had to. There was. Yeah, because we were having a really difficult time with the green screen on that one because we were like, everything was green, so we couldn’t use green. Oh, yeah. How do you have a Christmas sweater without green? I did this, like, pink background and then there was a little bit of. For some reason. Anyway, I don’t know what we did. It’s funny. So we couldn’t do that anyway. It’s just funny stuff. So, Ben, before we get started on this, I want to know, like, what is your. Like, we’ve just done so much research over the last eight years.

What’s your kind of take on the Montauk project? Like, what are among the most interesting things that you discovered either directly through researching the Montauk Project or peripherally through other things that you’ve researched? I think that through all the stories, a lot of them, they don’t really contradict each other. I find that a lot of them kind of tell similar stories. There’s talk of, like, hidden structures and things in the area. And then recently they found some of those structures that people were talking about. I think that’s really fascinating. The other thing is, we already know that MK Ultra is a true thing.

That was all declassified. Everything that happened at Montauk is. It’s Like, a little bit came out, but then the, you know, that hasn’t been completely declassified. And I think it’s because there’s so much that was going on there. One of the things that I also found was, you know, I mean, of course, like, we all know the general experiments that were. Were done, you know, but when they put up that ANTENNA Locally, everyone’s TVs went nuts. That’s something. You mean in montage. Yeah, yeah. You know, and I don’t know if that’s in his book. I haven’t read.

He did talk about. He did talk about that. Yeah. So, you know, and I think he’s got a lot of good information in his book. I. I haven’t read it from page to page. I. I have, you know, skimmed through it and gathered a lot of information over the. Especially over the years, like doing all the research. And then I’ve been to Montauk. I saw the facility, but it was, like, far away. And that was kind of even before that, we were doing Edge of Wonder. I was there covering a story. Completely different thing, you know, but I was still fascinated by all this stuff.

Now I’m like, oh, it’s one of the places I always wanted to go to see. You know, maybe when we use equipment, can we pull up anything? But then that story of that creature thing that supposedly came out, and there’s that photo of it that. That’s another thing that I found very fascinating. Yeah, but what. What about you? I mean, you’ve. You’ve done so much extensive research on this, you know, I mean, aside from, like, the experiments that were done. And we know the experiments. Well, we can’t say for sure, but what we can say is many people have come out saying that, you know, when they were kids or teenagers, they were being experimented on in that area.

They’re in the facility. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In fact, there was an article about a guy named Joe Lo, Foreno, and he has a very crazy story, and his story base, it was. It was in the New York Post. They wrote an article about it, and he’s been interviewed countless times. And he now, or at least he was working at Camp Hero as an employee. A Parks employee. Yeah. Even after all of this stuff that he went through, and he went. He started going through hypnotherapy with some random person, and that’s when he started remembering all this stuff.

And he believes that that’s. He was abducted around early 1980s, and he was riding his bike, he said, when he was like 12 or 13. And somebody, he did. Another, like local boy that he didn’t know very well was like, oh, hey, we should ride bikes together. And then they end up being in the facility, like near the facility. And then that’s when everything started happening to him. And you were mentioning the chair and he, he talks about that too. He, he doesn’t mention like a very specific chair, but he remembers, like he said there was like wires and electrodes coming out of it and like very futuristic kind of looking thing.

And he said there was at least 50 other kids that were there when he was there, so. And he believes some of them were, were killed. And he says that. And you know, he, he believes that that’s why a lot of them haven’t come out completely because some of them have been killed. But he talked about there was secret underground bases and underneath all that. And, and he talks about some of the structures too that were later found. Like there was like a house or something. And they found remnants of an old broken home in the area that was like kind of half underground.

So probably like they were using the basement for something. The buyer’s house. Is that it? No. Okay. From Stranger Things. Yeah. But anyway, what about. I found a, I found an Airbnb in Georgia that you can, that you can rent. That’s basically a re. It’s the buyer’s house. They recreated the buyer’s house and it’s an entire Stranger Things theme. Oh, I do remember. Super cool. I’d like to go there someday, but I’m sure it’s super backed up. We’d have to do a show from them from there some at some point. Yeah, I think so. Like the, the mind control thing was one of the more mind blowing things because we’ve all heard about, about MK Ultra and you know, most of the MK Ultra story that gets passed around is all of this like, blah, blah, blah, LC LSD stuff where they’re, they’re, they’re giving people drugs and experimenting with truth serums and stuff like that.

Yeah, but this is like the actual. When the rubber hits the road, how you might use MK Ultra if you were, if you were conducting clandestine government operations. This is the part that they don’t talk about where, oh, they succeeded. It has actually much less to do with LSD and much more to do with certain frequencies and, and it, it, the technology seems to be very similar to the technology that they had in Men in Black with the little clickers that they have that wipe everyone’s memory. Of course, who knows what the actual technology looks like where people are leading these double lives and they actually have normal day jobs, or it seems like they do, and they have.

Or they start to find that they have missing time. They are. People are coming up to them that remember them, because none of this. None of this technology is really airtight. And then they start having really confusing interactions with different people to the point where they start becoming more and more obsessed with getting to the bottom of what happened, which very much seems to be what happened with Preston Nichols in this entire thing. You know? Now, the Montauk Chair is a really interesting part of this entire thing. Do you remember in the Total Recall from. Was it the late 80s, early 90s? In total recall, what’s weird about this movie is you might, you know, at first look at this and be like, well, this has nothing to do with.

With the Montauk Project, but actually, I’m quite sure that that entire script was inspired by the events of the Montauk Project, because Preston Nichols even points to the fact that the chair in Total Recall that Arnold Schwarzenegger is reclining on at a certain point is very, very similar to the Montauk Chair. And that entire thing revolves around a colony on Mars, which was in the Montauk Project. And what’s weird about this chair, it wipes. I think in the. In the movie, it kind of like wipes memories. If. Or it installs memories inside of you, like, you can go on vacation and.

Yeah, yeah. It’s like you have a whole. Whatever, a whole life, basically, almost like a dream state, but it’s like you. You remember everything in detail. Yeah. So it’s almost like if you were to privatize this technology and then. And then try to create or try to make money off of it, you might do something similar to the Total Recall movie. Now that this. The reason why, I think I have been so fascinated by the Montauk Project more than almost any other project is. For one, it’s completely wiped off the books. Like when Preston Nichols found that there was a radio signal that was very strong coming from the Montauk area, he took a ride down there to see what was going on.

He got stopped by some guards. They won’t let him in. And he asks, well, who’s running this project here? Right? And they tell him that it’s the Federal Aviation Agency or the faa. What does that stand for? Federal Aviation. Something. Administration. Federal and Federal Aviation Administration. Now, he. He comes back a couple of years later when he finds out that Camp Hero has been abandoned, and he sees radio equipment Strewn around everywhere, right? So the radio equipment strewn around. And he’s very interested in this radio equipment because bro collects this type of equipment because in his, in his outside life, in his double life, he is a radio frequency engineer and an electromagnetics engineer that he’s working for a defense contractor.

And he’s just obsessed with this outside of work. He’s collecting all of this stuff. He finds that there’s all this radio equipment. He doesn’t want to get in trouble for just taking the radio equipment. So he, he goes and he starts calling around to see how he can get a. Some kind of official contract to be able to go in and purchase some of the equipment that’s just streamed around. No one in the office, like the administrative offices in any government institution can tell him or know of any government project that’s going on there. But he had that experience several years earlier of, of being told that the Federal Aviation Administration was running something there.

Right? Interesting. So he ends up getting a permit to go onto the site and he starts collecting some of this equipment. Right. While he’s there, he, he comes into contact with some hobo living on site. Like that shouldn’t be there, but that is like living in the area. And his life is in shambles. He. He’s like a homeless guy. And the guy tells him, he like, looks him in the eye and he’s like, I remember you. You were here often, basically. Wow. And he’s like, what? Right? He, he just, he kind of, he’s just like, okay, okay, Camp Hero hobo.

And he just kind of like takes the equipment and he leaves and kind of doesn’t give it a second thought because are you going to really listen to a homeless guy? Right. You know, he’s probably all drugged out on, on Camp Hero, living there, you know, amidst all of this, like, chaos. But then like several weeks later, he’s working at his home in his lab. He has a lab in his home. And a guy comes, barges into his house, goes right back to his lab as if he knows where. Where it is, and starts talking to him and tells him that he’s his manager on, on a project.

And he’s like, I don’t know who this dude is. Interesting. And basically this is what’s severance is about, right? It’s like they’re working at this job and then every time they leave, their memory gets wiped. So they don’t know who their team members are. They don’t even remember what they’re working on. And then they go back in and then it’s like once they go in, it’s like the memories come back, but then they don’t know who they are in the outside world, right? So it’s like. It’s. It’s so. So it’s. That’s what makes that show so interesting is because it’s like when they’re there, all they know is like, well, this is all I am here, here.

I don’t know who I am out here. But then once they’re out there, it’s like, I don’t know who. What I do for my job. I can only just say what I work for. So, you know, and then they’re. They’re slowly trying to figure things out as the series goes, you know? So do you remember. Do you remember the elevator in the Star Court Mall in the season three of Stranger Things where they end up going way down into this, like, crazy Russian tunnel? All right, so Preston, after that guy barges in to his lab, he’s like, something’s up.

So he starts poking around at work a lot, and he ends up starting to go into different sites that the defense contractor that he won’t name for obvious classified reasons. He. He starts poking around and he ends up going into. On site. He goes into this room that is like the most guarded room in the ent. In the entire defense contractor, like, station. And he can’t get in. He can’t get in. You know, there’s guys blocking it. And finally that room gets abandoned after a couple. After a couple of months or something. And he goes in and he goes.

He, He. He finds himself wandering around in there, and he goes into this back elevator shaft, and the elevator shaft goes down indefinitely. And he’s like, okay, this is bizarre, right? So he goes off site again to this other super classified area, and they won’t let him in. So on. Just like his gut told him, he’s like, you know what? I’m just gonna walk in, like I own the place and see what happens. So he goes straight up to. This is like one of the times he goes to this place. He goes straight up to the guard and he’s like, yeah, I forgot my pass back at whatever.

I need to get in. I need to get to my office, or whatever. Whatever BS story he’s going to tell him. The guy’s just like, oh, yeah, Mr. Nichols, go ahead. And he gives him a pass. So he gives him, like, credentials to get in as if. As if he, like, belongs. So this guy who’s a guard must be in on it somehow and know Enough to be like, hey, I’m not going to mess with this guy. So. Because this whole thing is very just like, he’s almost trying to use subconscious memory to guide him around to find what’s going on.

He ends up going into this room that felt familiar to him. And he’s looking around, and he goes into this one office, and he looks down on the desk, and it says, preston Beat Nichols, assistant Project Director. And his jaw drops open. He sees his name there, and he sees a bunch of letters that were. That were sent to him. You know, so he. He, like, leaves the site because he, you know, what are you gonna do at that point? He didn’t take anything. He was kind of scared if he did, he might get, you know, something might happen.

And then he starts getting approached by higher ups being like, don’t ever effing go to that site again. Don’t ever mention this. Don’t. Whatever, right? So he’s kind of scared. And this kind of sent him on a journey of. Of trying to find out what the heck happened at Montauk. Because all the people that he’s talking to that remember him, that he doesn’t remember are talking about Montauk. Mm. And he’s trying to put this thing together, and something in the back of his head is pushing him to find out more and more and more about this.

Now, what’s so strange about this whole thing is that Preston is an expert in radio frequencies and electro engineering. He, after kind of finding out more and after his memories start coming back, he. He going more and more public about the Montauk project. He and some other people who came forward, like Al Bialik and Duncan. Duncan Cameron. Cameron, who was the psychic who was in the chair, approach and find Nichols, and they. They start going public with the information. And there was kind of a race against time to go more public with the information so that they.

Their lives would not be in d. Danger. Like, the more public that they went, their theory was, the less in danger they would be. They got senators involved, the whole thing. At a certain point, his entire memory, or most of his memory unlocked about what was going on. And he. He starts writing over a period of time. He starts writing the book, the Montauk Project Experiments in Time. Now, Preston was, I mean, apparently pretty high up in the project, but he wasn’t an admin. He wasn’t like one of the main administrators. He was essential to the project because of his technical expertise and his.

His. His electromagnetics and radio frequency expertise. The way he describes the Construction of the Montauk chair alone brings in almost every crazy conspiracy that you and I have ever done an episode on. Like, you remember the Chronovisor? Yeah. Okay. So they had built through the Montauk Chair, they, they were putting, specifically putting a psychic in there for different reasons. Their brain frequencies are slightly different, among other things, but the, they were having. The reason why the Montauk project went on for so long is because developing the technology that could do the things that they were doing within this, within this project took years and years of trial and error and figuring things out to, to get it all working.

One of the biggest challenges that they had in with the Montauk chair was that when they were put the psychic in the, like, you know, that sage radar, that thing can pump out frequencies that are not only massively strong, but also extremely dangerous for a human body or brain to even be around. Right. So they had to actually move. They found that it wasn’t working, that when the chair was too close to the, to the radar, that it wasn’t working because of the frequencies. It was very hard to, to alienate the chair enough from the frequencies in order to get it to work.

So they ended up moving the chair off site. And then they had to pad the entire room that the psychic was in with enough of a bottle, like an electromagnetic bottle effect to keep the frequencies out from the radar so that there wasn’t interference with the hardware line in. Now when they got the psychic in the chair and they started doing these experiments, they started off really introductory, just like screwing around with, with people, screwing around with the people of Montauk with animals, you know, and, and this is where all these claims in Montauk come of.

Like children all gathering in a square. They’re just standing there and then all of a sudden they like come to. They don’t know why they’re there. And then they, they. They all kind of depart at the same time. Animals would go crazy during certain periods. Crime would. Crime rate would go up for two hour stints in montage. This is when they turned on the, this is the freak. So this is like whatever they were doing with the frequencies, right? We’re, we’re really screwing around with, with the people in the area. What’s that? Yeah, yeah. And they were doing all of this, of course, on purpose because they’re, they’re trying to figure out, find waves that can actually affect the human body and affect human, the human mind, right? So, so they’re finding out all of this stuff is working and Then as they’re.

As they’re developing the technology for the chair, or as they’re. As they’re developing this technology, they’re also developing the technology that’s connected to the chair. And their goal is that they’re recording the brain waves of the psychic in the chair and then with a computer, replicating the brain wave so that the psychic doesn’t always have to be there. So what they’re. What they’re recording with the supercomputer, they’re able to replicate the same brain waves and then to perform certain actions without a psychic being involved. But maybe this was because of the analog system or you actually do need a human.

They. Whenever they were doing something serious, a psychic always had to be in the chair. And anytime they would use, like Duncan Cameron was the main psychic that they were using, because anytime they had to change around the chair for a different person, it was an entire big event to. To recalibrate the chair for a different person. So they were constantly trying to use Duncan Cameron. Right. So one of the pieces of technology that they’re developing alongside is that they are now through connecting the psychic up to the chair, they’re. They’re recording the frequencies from the psychic and they’re replicating them.

But they also are able to create 3D imagery of whatever the psychic is thinking on a screen from the dude sitting in the chair. Right. So the people, the technicians that are in the back that are watching all of this can see everything going on through screens that are actually showing what’s going on with the brain waves at the same time that they’re happening. Right. Which sounds a lot like the chronovisor, right? It does. It’s crazy. And for those of you that the chronovisor, we. We did a whole thing about it, but it was supposedly a.

Not something like time travel, but it was like a device that they had. And I forget who it was built by. Vatican. Well, the Vatican had it. It was built by somebody else. And I can’t remember who built it, but they. It’s like, for example, it was almost like something you would look through and you could set it to a year, and it’s almost like a movie that you could watch and. Yeah, like you’re watching back in time. Yeah, yeah. And the main thing was Jesus. Jesus’s crucifixion. And supposedly this was a still image that. That Lindsay was just showing there of Jesus on the.

Right there. And. And there was a pretty prominent priest who came out talking about it, and he published a book about it. And he was getting his information from this other priest that was like talking very matter of factly about it. But you know, the V, basically it was like, oh, in the wrong hands, this could be a very giant weapon to use. And so they, they felt it was safe being kept in the Vatican. But now, you know, it seems like that is like very ancient technology. Even though to us that’s still super advanced technology.

Yeah. Compared to what they have now. And we’re talking about from the 70s. I mean, this was coming out in, in the 70s and they had it years prior to that. So, so now it’s like, you know, that’s essentially, I mean, that’s kind of what I believe that they’re doing with quantum computers. It’s like they can. The information they get back, they can, they can now see this information and get it in real time, whatever they want to get. And, and I, and I think that’s the scarier aspect of it. We, we just don’t know what exactly they’re doing.

I mean, Google, Google came out and with their new Willow Willow chip, you know, they were like, oh, we, it, we gave it a problem that would take something like 10, septrillion years. Yeah, septrillion years or septillion, whatever it is for a normal supercomputer, for the fastest supercomputer to figure out. And then in 10 minutes and 50 to 5 to 10 minutes or so, this, the quantum computer crack the code. And yeah, it’s just, well, think about how fast supercomputers have gotten. The fact that a quantum chip could work it out much faster than our fastest supercomputers is not just much faster.

I mean, we’re talk. I mean, it’s like can’t even comprehend the, the speed of what this could do. So what, so how is it so fast? And that’s where Google officially came out and was like, well, we’re dealing with a multi universe. I mean, I mean, they said it in their own words. That’s what it is. And not so matter of factly, but it’s like, oh, well, you know, But I think they’re talking about it kind of vague because they just don’t want people to understand how this works. Because we’re dealing with, with now we’re dealing with things that are beyond anything that we can understand with our physics.

Like everything we think we know in this world of physics, it’s just been shattered with quantum computers. So do you think that the influx of Marvel movies dealing with multiverse storylines has something to do with fictionalizing the entire thing so that people are numb to it. I do. And you know, I think, I think there’s really some elements, like the, the one thing that I’ve been thinking about the most because all these things have so many different elements of truth into it. Yeah. The Loki series. Yeah. Where they have really good, like the Time Police or whatever.

You know, I really started thinking about this because the whole thing is like, oh my gosh, there’s a timeline collapsing or converging and we have to like go there and stop this one thing from happening to enable. This timeline doesn’t get destroyed or collapse on it. Isn’t it weird how the technology in that series looks like it’s from the 60s and 70s? Yes. I know that the other thing. Or 80s, like it’s so, I feel like it’s so in line with when this stuff got. Yeah. Figured out, you know. Yeah. And you know, there, there were.

I know that there’s. What’s his name? I was just looking at it. Al Bilik. Al Bilak. Yeah. So he claimed that he, he traveled to the year 2137 and came back through the Montauk. That project. Yeah. This is what they were doing eventually. Right. And that, and I mean, again, it makes sense from that perspective. Like I said earlier, you know, I think that it. Scientifically, I think we. They’ve already come out and many scientists are explaining it from the molecular standpoint where you can. Yes, you know, it is true. I mean they, they, they’ve made something teleport them.

It’s all. We’re all talking about part particles here, you know, at the microscopic level. But it’s, it’s like if that’s what’s coming to the surface and they’re acknowledging that, then what are they doing behind the scenes, you know. And we keep pointing fingers at cern, but really it’s like CERN is up front. Yeah. That’s kind of what I feel like too. They might actually just be doing regular experiments. But then it’s like there’s so many other particle accelerators in the world. Every country has one. Military. Yeah. Why would we even know about. About them if they were important? We wouldn’t.

We wouldn’t. And you know, I was thinking about it today because I was looking at like, what is the most recent things that are being declassified? And there are some things that came out in like, you know, year 2000. I think I saw some things about around 2013 that took place. They’re like small isolated things related to like war, another country. I mean something like the, the MK Ultra. We haven’t had that level of ex like disclosure yet, you know, of like oh yeah, we were doing all these experiments and it’s like I, I think what you said, you know when they were like oh yeah, we were doing with LSD and it’s like they were experimenting with that in the 50s, you know, it’s, it’s like what are they doing now with all of this? And what was the purpose of all of that? I mean we would never know if something had anything to do with threatening national security.

None of that would ever get declassified in any kind of FOIA request request or anything. It would just be total, totally buttoned up. No one would find out about it. Why don’t we go to a trailer and I want to show something recently that did come out about it was a former CIA spy that kind of blew the whistle on this exact topic. So why don’t we show trailer and we’ll talk about this when we get back. The TV is biased and chaotic. The movies are cliche and boring. The Matrix is taking over. Where can I find some good entertainment for goodness sake? Well, look no further.

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The yearly subscription is more than 25% off. I will res that tv for christmas. Hey, we’re back. Yes, we are. So you guys. Yeah, you can, if you haven’t already. We are having our holiday special where you get 25 off the yearly plan. So if you haven’t you come over and join us. Once again, we have over a thousand videos over on Rise tv, tv, exclusive content, documentaries, even a couple movies. So yeah, enough to keep you busy for a whole year. Don’t miss this deal. Yeah, good. Well, what do you got for us, man? So this guy, he’s an ex DIA agent and he was answering questions specifically about listening through our phones.

But again, you know, I think the fact that. Well then this brings up this whole other level about what. How are they really utilizing technology in today’s world? And I think that’s where a lot of, like, biochips come in, where people are chipped without them realizing it. I think there’s. This is a way bigger thing than people even understand. And it’s like, they don’t need to do these, like, Montauk kind of projects, you know, centers. It’s now I think it’s like, move to, like. Well, we can just do it on the entire general population. Well, whatever one’s got a phone.

We can just do something this way. Everyone’s got energy. Yeah. What’s in our phone? What’s what? The frequencies that some of these smaller pieces of tech can emit are very strong. Yeah. Lindsay, can you. Can you play this video for us? I don’t know his name. Does the CIA listen through our phones and laptop cameras? Yes. I hate to say it. There was a dramatic leak in 2017 that the CIA came to call the Vault 7 disclosures. Gigabytes worth of documents leaked by a CIA technology engineer. What he told us was that the CIA can intercept anything from anyone, number one.

Number two, they can remotely take control of your car through the car’s embedded computer. To do what? To make you drive off a bridge into a tree. To make you kill yourself and make it look like an accident. They can take over your smart television and turn the speaker into a microphone so that they can listen to what’s being said in the room even when the TV is turned off. God knows what else that they can do that that hasn’t been leaked. Does the CIA listen? Yeah, that’s the question. I mean, we all know that that’s going on.

It just confirms it that the ex CIA spy guy came out and said something about it. I know. It really does. It’s just. I mean, I. I think that it’s good that these people are coming forward. More and more people are coming forward. But again, it’s like, you know, if these things are the stuff that’s being leaked, what is it? That’s still. What. What. What are they doing now? Like, that is the big question, you know, and that’s what I think. Like, what they’re doing now is affecting. Oh, yeah. The world. And. And I think everybody would be so shocked.

And definitely the 5G aspect really scares me. And then it’s like using quantum computers and all these different things in 5G. Yeah. And that’s only what we know about, which is. That’s the crazy part, is like, whatever we’re seeing that’s in the public eye is so diminished in comparison to what they’re really doing. Like, one of the things that I. I’m sad about is that the last major whistleblowers really were, I feel like, from the 90s. Like, we can’t get the Preston Nichols level of whistleblower stuff now for some reason, and you’d think it would be even more crazy because the technology is more crazy, but we’re not getting that level of stuff.

Like the Montauk chair, for instance. We were talking about that for the first half of the. Of the show. That chair was not something that they developed just in the Montauk project. It was handed down to them. And Nichols claimed that the technology was. Was alien in nature. Like, what are the. What’s the alien race? Are they called the Syrians? Is that what they’re called? There’s. What. No, no, it’s not the Pleiadians. It’s. It begins with an S. I think they’re called the Syrians or something like that. Anyway, this group already had a chair that they had that they had.

What’s that? I was just thinking about different. Different alien groups. It was in our alien race. But anyway, I’m pretty sure that was their name, but they. They had already handed some of that technology. Technology down to the US Government and the Montauk. The heads of the Montauk project, when they were first putting it together, had heard about this chair, and they were like, this is perfect. Let’s bring it in. But what they did at Montauk, which was so crazy, is they. They spliced in Tesla technology to the Montauk chair to hook it up to that Sage radar to start doing crazy stuff with.

But if it wasn’t for a combination of all of the technologies that they had at the time, they wouldn’t have been able to get it to work the way that they. That the way that they did. Allegedly. Of course. Yeah. Well, yeah. And then in the. In the movie Stranger Things, the Hawkins lab is based out of the camp Hero immunity supposed to be. Yeah, it’s supposed to be. Right, right, right, right, right. So it’s like, you know what. Whatever is going on there, and I mean. And that’s where supposedly the. Is it the camp hero that.

That supposedly the monster came out of? Yeah, okay. It was camp Hero. And. And so when it comes to the kids in what was going on, and it took us a while to kind of figure out because we. We had to do a combination of. Of Research and then having John remote view some of this stuff to kind of figure out what was happening. But the kids were integral to the time travel element of the entire thing. And what we found out was that. And, and Nichols says this in the book, but because something about children’s minds being more malleable and not freaking out when they came back from an event like that.

Whereas heard that before too. With like the Philadelphia Experiment, the adults that traveled through time, I guess you could say on the. Under the Philadelphia Experiment, on the USS Eldrich, they. They ended up, A lot of the adults ended up going crazy from the event. Like their minds just couldn’t handle the entire thing, whereas the kids didn’t have a problem. And they could, they could come back into society and things would be pretty normal, or they would, they would tuck it away and not remember it probably until later in their life. Right. And so the kids were an essential part of actually sending them through these wormholes to achieve all kinds of missions.

And a lot of the missions, Preston said that he wasn’t even sure all of the missions that they were. That they were, were doing, but that he was only aware of a certain amount of them that he had to be pulled into to fix things or whatever. Right. So we have no idea. And, and according to Nichols, like thousands of kids and homeless people and different, different, what he called winos were lost in time or through these wormholes. Like, for instance, you know, in Stranger Things, they’ll go through one of those like, portals and then the portal will close.

That could actually happen. Although it was more of a psychic thing rather than a physical thing of like the portal closing, where if anyone going through the portal forgot where the entrance or the exit was to get back, they would be lost in time or lost in another space forever. So, yeah, there was alien technology that they ended up using. Of course, allegedly, according to the whistleblower claims here that it wasn’t just one whistleblower. We’re talking about Preston Nichols, Duncan Cameron, Al Bilek, who was involved firsthand with the Philadelphia Experiment. That’s why they brought him in, is they needed his know how from what happened with that.

And you know, it kind of goes back to why was the stealth bomber technology secret for so long? Like, we hear more about stealth bombers and it’s kind of just like, oh yeah, it’s just a. It just avoids radar. But according to what they were implying in the Montauk Project book, it wasn’t simply. It’s not simply that the stealth technology just keeps you off of an enemy’s radar. It’s that we’re talking about full invisibility here, some type of full invisibility where it creates some kind of electric bottle energy around the, the ship and the ship itself is also lost.

It’s not there. Like, if you were to look up, if it was hovering over your house, you just wouldn’t see it, which is. It adds a whole different element to the stealth technology. Right. Yeah. I mean, I don’t know about the. I mean, Well, I think that’s why they. I mean, I, me personally, I think that’s why they declassified it because it’s like, oh, they moved on to bigger and better way crazier things, you know, and, and it’s so funny because everyone keeps talking about, you know, the stealth bomber being still to this day, and it’s like, oh, that’s the, the peak of what we’re, you know, the zenith of what we created for, for the Air Force, whatever they’re using.

But it’s like, well, that’s being declassified. Then. What, what, what are they doing now? Otherwise if that, if they’re still using that, then they wouldn’t have never declassified that. So I, I mean, it’s possible that they were using that technology. If they were, I would see it more as like, if they were it. Maybe it was like a unit or something inside of it they can take out and then put it in a different craft. And maybe that’s. Well, that, that’s exactly, exactly. It, it’s like, what, what did they declassify? They declassified the most unneeded parts of the stealth bomber.

Probably the ones that look the most surface. Like it’s just, it’s just a. Evading enemy radar. Because, I mean, I’ve even seen the, the triangular. You know, you have the SR71 Blackbird and then you have the Stealth bombers. And I’ve seen the Stealth bombers fly over in like air shows since things. Sure. You know, so it’s, I mean, clearly they’re not trying to hide from radar at that point. But, but it’s kind of interesting because looking at it from that perspective. Yeah. And then you have not. This is the TR3B that Lindsay pulled up here. This is the stuff that we think is what they’re doing now.

The reason why they released the Stealth Bomber and the SR71 Blackbird is because the, because they’re, they’re. It looks like they moved on to more of like ufo, UFO technology. So, and, and you know, with those blueprints, it’s like it, it creates its own gravitational distortion bubble around the craft. And it goes into detail about that, that it generates this like field around it. So the pilot inside, no matter how fast or how fast you turn or however fast you’re going, doesn’t feel any effect in this reality because it’s creating its own gravitational field within the craft itself.

So the person just. It’s just like us sitting right here. Sitting here. Yeah. Even though we’re traveling. No G forces. Yeah, exactly. Zero. Yeah. Zero G forces whatsoever. It’s like. No G. Yeah, zero. Just, it’s like we’re just sitting here and we’re, we’re going 5,000 miles an hour. Even if we turn a sharp, sharp angle, we still won’t feel anything. Yeah. So. And I think that is the real true wild part of all this. Well, one of the interesting things in the Stranger Things series too is how it’s not the Federal Aviation Administration that’s administering the entire thing, it’s the Department of Energy, but the Department of Energy, which is also, that’s very much responsible for most of this.

It’s a, it’s very close. Yeah. Everything. I mean, and that’s like in the CERN article or episode that, you know, one of the things that we’re going to do later, that whole thing, I mean, there’s this whole quote from the Department of Energy, the head of the Department of Energy at the time, and he’s like, you know, saying that essentially Stranger Things is real. Like that you. Like we’ve broken through other time spaces and they’re all kind of laughing at him and he’s just like, okay. You know, but it’s true. It’s like that’s, that’s what’s happening.

I think the Department of Energy guy would know. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So another, some more interesting stuff that doesn’t get talked about very often. Okay. Is Preston Nichols, the way that he writes the book, it’s like, it’s so jam packed, like it’s a short book, but every page is so jammed with either technical information or really bizarre stories about what happened. Right. And some of the things that, that he talks about have to do with, well, how did they fund it if. No, no government institution was even behind it. What he says is that the lost Nazi train that had all of the gold in it that Patton was after, that General Patton couldn’t get his hands on, that the U.S.

government, actually they retrieved it and they used the gold, like massive amounts. I mean, we’re talking about. It was something close to a trillion dollars that they were using to fund this project. Right. And then another. Another claim was like, well, how would you have enough energy to. To, you know, to power all of this? Well, what Nichols said. This is so weird is he’s like. He showed a photo of this one road on. On Camp Hero in Montauk, where there’s two lines running through this one intersection. And he’s like, see these. These lines right here? He’s like, these are actually massively powerful ley lines.

But because a leyline runs right through Montauk, people don’t know this. He’s like, but basically, ancient civilizations in the past, and anyone who understands the ley lines on the Earth know that these vortices generate an enormous amount of power themselves and that they were using and harnessing the energy from these ley lines to actually power the Montauk project. They didn’t need a separate. I’m sure they were using localized energy as well, but they were actually piggybacking off of energy that already was running through Montauk to power the entire project, which is crazy. It sure is. It makes a lot of sense.

Yeah. And. And. And, you know, you just have to, like, following the train of thought. If you could find where all of those. All of those ley lines are, I almost guarantee where there are intersections and there’s very powerful energy, you’re probably going to find one of these bases. I’m. Of course that’s conjecture, but, you know, you’d think it does. All right. Well, I can’t believe it’s already 8:40. Is it really? Yeah. Wow. We’ve been going on for an exactly an hour. Let’s see. We’re gonna need to head over to Rise TV right now. We’re gonna get into your questions that you guys had in our live chat, and then we got our top 10 weirdest news of the week that we’re gonna do, too.

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