Eight Scientists Died or Disappeared: Connected to Alien Disclosure?

➡ Alan Sturm, an expert photo editor, has spent years analyzing images of the moon using techniques similar to those used by military teams to identify hidden structures in aerial photos. His work has led to the discovery of unusual structures on the moon, suggesting the possibility of an ancient civilization. In addition, the text mentions a story about a FEMA official who claims to have been teleported to a Waffle House, and a series about celebrities who have had encounters with UFOs.
➡ The text discusses a man’s claim of teleporting to a Waffle House, which sparked a lot of attention and debate. It also mentions a series of mysterious deaths and disappearances of scientists, suggesting a possible connection between them. The scientists’ work ranged from exoplanets and dark matter to chemical biology, and their deaths have raised questions about potential foul play. The text ends with a discussion about the difficulty of keeping information secret in the age of AI.
➡ Several people linked to high-security labs and aerospace research have mysteriously disappeared or died in recent years. Among them is retired General William Nell McClass, who vanished leaving all his belongings at home, and Monica Reza, an aerospace material scientist who disappeared while hiking. Anthony Chavez, a former employee at the Los Alamos National Laboratory, and Melissa Cassius, who worked at the same lab, also vanished without a trace. Lastly, Frank Maywald, a researcher at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory, died under undisclosed circumstances. The reasons behind these incidents remain unclear.
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Edge of wonder gmail.com or the new email address. I’m going to create crochet Edge of Wonder nyc. Oh man. All right, why don’t we get into your metaphysical minute here? So my metaphysical minute this week is about a hat I crocheted for Bigfoot that he wears on the moon. Yeah. After. After he got abducted by aliens in. In. Yeah. In New Mexico. Yeah. No, it’s hidden on the moon. Something is on the moon. We interview at Alan Sturm who this is his second book. I’m telling you right now. Ben, you should check this out because this guy has been looking carefully at moon images for 20 plus years, maybe 30 years, I don’t know how long.

And he uses an old, I don’t know exactly the term for this, but it’s like an old military technique of how to find like Soviet the bases during the Cold War on satellite and he uses them on moon photos. That’s crazy. And he’s found the craziest structures on there and he’s just published a new book on this or he’s publishing a new book on this. And we go over a bunch of his process and how he’s, how he’s discovered this. It was like an, it started off as an itch he, he couldn’t scratch and, and it just turned into him being like the.

Honestly, when you listen to him talk about it, he’s like the authority on this 100 and, and the, it’s amazing the stuff that he’s found on there. Especially like you look at the photo and you’ll be like, okay, just looks like a bunch of moon rocks. But then he starts circling stuff and you zoom in on it and you keep looking at it and the more you look at it, the more you see like, hey, these things don’t exist. They. That shouldn’t exist. And was there an ancient civilization on the moon that left things there? It’s just amazing.

So you got to check that out. And do we have an intro for this that we want to show to Mars as well? Like the more you start looking at. Yeah, crazier gets. Covert teams and combat situations are tasked with combing over blurry aerial photos with military precision. They’re trained to quickly identify visual information you and I can’t. The corner of a structure, a man made object or something hiding, a terrorist compound, secret base and other things hidden to those who don’t have the eyes to see. Well, what if those same photo analysis techniques could be applied to images of the moon? For years people have claimed to see buildings, objects, and even living things on the moon’s surface.

But as skeptics have pointed out, it’s impossible to tell from these viral images alone that there are really structures there when they could just be gray blobs. That’s where Alan Sturm changed everything. As a civilian hobbyist and expert photo editor, he spent thousands and thousands of hours analyzing moon photos. And in the process, he developed specific techniques that left these military men astonished when they saw what he was doing because it allowed him to identify spatial relationships between objects the way they did and generate real data about what’s objective on the lunar surface. And if you didn’t know, I’ve been a graphic designer and photographer myself for my entire adult career, and I have to say, with Alan’s knowledge of camera technology and photo editing, I was blown away by how he explained how to look at moon photos.

This may be some of the most amazing technical information we’ve ever dived into here on Metaphysical Way beyond any sensational conversation about clickbait moon images. Join me, investigative researcher Rob Counts and remote viewer John Vivanko as we interview professional photo analyst and author Alan Sturm. Okay. You’re good? Yeah, cool. Totally fascinating interview, that interview. I’ve. I don’t think we’ve ever interviewed anyone that long. It was over three hours. It’s going to get broken up into two or three episodes. And it was. It could have kept going. I mean, I had so many questions for. For him.

But yeah, definitely go to the Metaphysical channel, check that out and give us the hype if you can. All right, well, why don’t we show a trailer and we get back, we’ll start talking about everything with the missing people. Yeah, and also the weird FEMA official says he was teleported 50 miles away. I want to talk to you about that and think we’ll talk about it. And. And don’t forget to wait for Rise TV when we’re going to be talking about crochet techniques. Yeah, that too. Trailer. Is it a rolling stone in the sky? Is it a hunk of, hunk of burning metal? It’s definitely not a blackbird singing in the dead of night.

It’s a ufo. And chances are your favorite rock star has seen it. Are rock artists just crazy? Or is there a reason why so many have claimed to see UFOs? From your standard believers to abductees, from lifelong stargazers to superstars turned investigators, UFO encounters seem to follow around these celebrities. Is your favorite rock star on the list? Find out as Edge of Wonder presents UFO Close Encounters, Celebrity Edition, Episode 1, Rockstar Mind Control. Ben, tell us about that series. Yeah, so we did a whole. Whole celebrity encounter with UFOs or even aliens or even having, like, specifically an alien abduction experience.

You can find all of those on RISE tv, along with nearly a thousand other videos that we have published over there, and along with our Tuesday live shows that we do exclusively on Rise as well. So enough content to keep you busy for a year or more than that? I. Yeah, yeah. You never going to get through all that content. No. Yeah, we have some documentaries and all kinds of different things on there. All right, pull it up, Ben. Do you know who this guy is? Oh, you mean the. The FEMA dude? Yeah. Do you know who that is? No.

Who is that? You don’t know who that is? Greg. Phillip. You know, he. He was the guy that did. He. He was one of the lead researchers that film 2000 Mules with Dinesh D’. Souza. Oh, yes. Oh, yeah. Okay, okay, okay. Now they’re calling him far right. FEMA official. They had to put in the term far right because, you know, he was highly involved at that time with Dinesh d’ Souza and, you know, afterwards, you know, taking the heat for that documentary at a time during Biden’s administration. And. Yeah, it’s. I don’t. Look, I mean, this is a fantastic story.

It’s hilarious. If this is true and he got transported to a Waffle House, I mean, what, did he get transported there to see a fight? That’s what I want to know. Yeah, I. There’s a video of him explaining it. He says, but he says, God will not be mocked. People. People can debate me, question me, even ridicule me. What they don’t understand, teleporting is no fun. It was scary. It was scary. In a way. That’s what he was explaining. So scary. Yeah, in a way. No, that’s terrifying. Like all of a sudden you’re hanging. You were one place 50 miles away, and now you’re at a Waffle House.

I mean, why am I here? Do I need to eat waffles? I mean, that’s what be going through my mind. Yeah. I’m trying to figure out, well, there’s a video, Lindsay, there’s a. There’s a clip of him explaining it underneath that article. Yeah. If you want to pull that up, Describe the very first time you were teleported. It was scary in a way. I mean, you know, you don’t really know. Okay. Is this evil? Is this good? What is this? Is. You Know, what do I do with this? How do I deal with it? I was on the phone, oh, my God, what’s happening? And I was.

And I was landed and landed about 40 miles away in a ditch outside of a Baptist church in a little tiny town just where you cross over the border. And it was an incredibly frightening moment to experience yourself in your car, flying through the air. Teleporting is no fun. It’s so fun because you don’t really know what you’re doing. You don’t. You don’t really understand it. I was with my boys one time and. And I was telling I was going to go to Waffle House and get Waffle House, and. And I ended up at a Waffle House, this is in Georgia.

And I ended up at a Waffle House, like 50 miles away from where I was. They said, where are you? I said, a Waffle House. They said, I don’t. I don’t know what to think about that. I mean, look, kudos to Greg for being honest about his experience, you know, if that happened. But it. This is just fodder for the mainstream media to make fun of him and discount previous work that he did. I’m not like it’s his business whether he wants to tell the story or not, but, you know, you may want to omit the term Waffle House in the future if you want to be taken percentages more seriously.

Also, the, the time of day or night Waffle House is in probably every. Almost every. Almost every single headline here. Yeah. And this is, this is the second round of reports, you have to understand, because the claim, this went viral earlier in the week and now, now there’s reports that he’s doubling down and so there’s a new headline. But previous in the week, every headline had Waffle House in it. Well, yeah, it, it’s hard because, I mean, some of these people are playing opposite roles of what they believe in to. Yeah. Create a narrative to suede people’s opinion.

It’s. Yeah. You know, when. So Clair Leona in our chat said, this is great advertising for Waffle House. That was literally the first thing that came out of my mouth. As soon as I saw the first headline earlier in the week, I was like, everyone’s going to Waffle House to see if they can get teleported. Yeah. And if not, if you don’t get teleported, at least you can have some waffles and maybe see a fight. Did you say Lindsay? Maybe that’s what happened with the KitKats they got. I said he had to upstage KitKat. Oh, I thought you said maybe that’s.

I was like, yeah, maybe that is what happened with the KitKats. Maybe the truck went through a portal as well. Can you imagine, though, like, okay, from his story, he’s in his house and he’s like, boys, I got me a craving for Waffle House. And then immediately you’re at Waffle House and you call home and you’re like. Your kids are like, dad, where’d you go? You were just here a minute ago. And he’s like, I’m at a Waffle House 50 miles away. Can one of you pick me up? I’m 15. It’s like, he said it was in a ditch, too.

So I. I don’t even know. What does that have to do with anything? Because if you just imagine it, you’re there. Oh, yeah. Ray just imagines the nicest thing that couldn’t possibly destroy New York, and it’s Stay Puft, Marshmallow Man. Yeah, it’s. That’s interesting. It’s like, why did he have that experience? You know? Is this his. Is this his own weird latent abilities that he’s tapping into? Or did something happen? Also, he was saying something about flying. I’m like, well, what. What. You know, I mean, granted, look, you know, with. With all this alien stuff. I mean, we.

We know people are getting abducted. We know, like, this could happen with teleportation. People have, like, woken up in a completely different place where they were, you know, with these abductions and stuff like that. So it’s like. That’s why I have a lot of questions that. Yeah, there’s. He’s not answering. Not. Not. I’m not trying to be, like, critical of it. It’s just more of an aspect of what. Did you have any missing time? What happened between. What were you doing? What time of night was it? Were you under the influence of any. Anything whatsoever? It’s like, all these questions are important, Very important.

You know, I want to point something else out that’s funny about that clip. Could you pull it up and just turn the audio off? Okay. The way he’s sitting, just. It’s. No, that is funny. He’s on a couch, obviously, and he’s low, but if you look at this woman while he’s delivering this, she asks him the question, and then it goes back to double screen. And it’s so obvious that Greg must have told her this story before because she has literally no reaction. She. She’s just like. Because think about it. This is amazing. Right? You’d be.

If somebody, if you didn’t know someone was going to pull this out, you’d be shocked. And she’s just chilling. She’s like, yeah, I’ve heard this story a million times, Greg. That’s funny. Actually, I was thinking the same thing. I’m like, isn’t she gonna have it? You know, that was just a short little clip, though. So I didn’t watch the full interview, which maybe they. They do. Yeah. Okay. To be fair, maybe she revealed it earlier and she was shocked. That’s why, like, okay, you know, I probably need to watch a little bit more of it. But still, like, this article on, in this People article does not get into any details about that, so.

Oh, no, they’re just going to use that to ridicule him. All of those articles are to get people reading the article to ridicule Greg. As if he hasn’t had enough ridicule for stuff that he’s done. It’s crazy. It’d be funny if. It’d be funny if she just responded. I was the one that teleported you, Greg. I was there, too. All right, why don’t we, why don’t we move into something a little bit more serious about these missing and dead scientists in which two more were. Have been tied to this, leading to eight altogether. Some of these happened a little while ago, and now they’re, they’re kind of realizing that there is a connection with these scientists, which is kind of strange.

Lindsay, if you scroll down a little bit, there’s a. There’s a graphic in this article that has kind of like a. Yeah, this is, this is pretty cool because it actually shows how many of these people are connected and, or, and, or kind of in. Indirectly connected. It’s like they’re all kind of there. The only, the only ones is the, the guy at the bottom. I think his name is Jason. And the guy on the far right over there, think. I think that is Nuno, if I’m not mistaken. He. Yeah, he’s a Portuguese professor. So he was.

So he’s kind of the first one on the list. He’s MIT. He was a director. Professor and a director. MIT’s Plasma Science Infusion center was shot multiple times at his home in Brookline, Massachusetts. Yeah, Brookline is. You got. You gotta have lots of money in the bank to live out there. Really. Yeah. Brookline is, is like the Naples, Florida of Massachusetts. It might even be. You might even need more money to live in Brookline. Honestly. Maybe not. Which sounds Crazy. Yeah. I mean maybe. That’s pretty wild though. Never heard of it. I’m trying to think when he went missing.

So he. Yeah, he’s the only one. Him and the other guy. There doesn’t seem to be a direct connection with any of the other people, but all the other ones, there is a connection with them, which is kind of crazy. So he was killed on December 15, 2025. So just December of last year. And then we did talk about Carl Grill. Grillmar Grill. Mayor. Grill Mayor. He was the one that was killed. Yeah, February 16th, just, just last month. And he was the one that was shot outside of his home in like kind of a rural area, completely middle of nowhere.

And someone came to, to his house at 6am and killed him, shot him on his porch. His work focused on exoplanets, dark matter, galactic structures, and also gathering data from Hubble and Spitzer telescopes. So that kind of makes me think that he, and he, he also was finding water on other planets too. So kind of makes me think that this is all just really not very. It was there some. The only way this would make sense if. Is if there was some task force that was put together by a three letter agency. They were all brought in and now they’re wiping the slate clean.

This is the only way this would make sense. Yeah, that’s kind of what I’m wondering. My question isn’t about aliens here. It’s about whether or not any of them have connections to Huntsville, Alabama, Alabama. What’s Huntsville, Alabama? That’s the anti gravity center of the world. That’s where everyone goes. All the scientists will go to try to develop new propulsion techniques and stuff, which is according to some of the research I’m doing. There may be more information about that coming out over the next year or two. It’s like very, very difficult for the powers that be to keep information contained when we have AI systems that are blowing the top off of tons of stuff right now.

It’s very true. Hey, to everyone in the chat who’s donating right now, Jill Rum Romlo, Harry Bert Karamar, 58 and Hospice angel, thank you guys very much. Yeah, we appreciate that. That’s great. And at the beginning of the show, as always, Audrey Gal, thank you very much. Oh yeah, and Dryam, Everybody else too. Yeah, well, okay, so there is some new information too that came out, which is this Jason Thomas, the other one that they couldn’t really find a direct connection for. He was 45. He was an assistant director of chemical biology at. No, no, Novartis it’s like a pharmaceutical research center.

Also from Massachusetts, no less. He went missing also in December of last year and his wife reported him missing and his body was just recovered at the end of March in Wakefield, which I’m not sure how far that is from where he was. Okay. He was, he was missing in Wakefield. Okay, Wakefield. What. What state? Massachusetts. Massachusetts? Yeah, it was a lake, I guess. They recovered his body in a lake. His clothing and other details matched Thomas so they figured it was. They assumed it was Thomas. No word on like how he got there, what exactly.

But that was a year ago, wasn’t it? He just. No, no, no. They just found his body like two weeks ago. But he disappeared a year ago. No. Well, he disappeared in December. Oh a few months ago. Just a couple months ago. Yeah, like three, four months ago. Yeah. Then, then the, the famous one out of this is that General, the retired General William Nell McClass. McClaster Classlin. Sorry. Mick Clasland. He’s the one who’s 68 years old. He just disappeared. His phone, wallet, keys, car, everything was at his home. Still no word of where he is.

His body has not been found. This says he’s been missing for two weeks, but that was in March 12th. So now it’s been over a month since he’s been missing. No word on anything with that. And then there was another one, Monica Rez Reza. And she was a doing aerospace material scientist. This is her here. She went missing on June 22, 2025. And she was hiking on a trail in. In Los Angeles National National Forest in California with companions. And then she just disappeared. They couldn’t find her. No trace. Haven’t found a body or anything. Very strange.

And then there was this Anthony Chavez who was an employee at the Los Alamos National Laboratory. Sorry until 2017. He disappeared without a trace in May 2025. So a lot of these people disappeared in May 20th or in 2025. He was an a. An avid hiker really like you know, kind of the kind of, kind of person that’s just could be on his own pretty much anywhere. When he disappeared he was not dressed to go, to go out hiking and he did not have a phone with him and he just disappeared. The Daily Mail. So he worked at this Pl.

The. The Los Alamos National Laboratory. Daily Mail reached out to them. There’s been no word. It was a. It’s a very high level security lab center that you have to have very special clearance to get in. That was the facility that tested the Manhattan or was part of the Manhattan Project during World War II. Same facility. So right there, it’s already kind of weird, right? I mean, who knows what they’re doing there. There was this Melissa Cassius also working at the same laboratory. That’s why it gets weird. Who went missing? She was seen walking alone, dropping off her husband, who also works at the same facility she was dropping him off.

There’s a video camera, like a video still image of her walking, walking down the street. And that’s the last anyone has ever saw her. She had clearance for very sensitive information at the facility. And this is very mysterious. Yeah. What are they doing in Los Alamos? That is a very good question. Assistant FBI Director Chris Swecker told the Daily Mail that even employees who do not work directly on top secret scientific research projects could be targeted by foreign spy agencies. But this is kind of weird because if this was a foreign spy agency, you would think they would have all the information related to this, like, they would be investigating this like crazy.

And they don’t really seem to be. So that’s kind of suspicious. I mean, maybe. I’m sure they are. You know, I, I can’t. I can’t say that they’re not, but it’s like, like how many people are missing and, you know. No, I hear you. Yeah, the, the, the, the other one is this Frank Maywald. He was also. Or so he was a researcher at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory before his death. So this Guy died in 2024. His cause of death has not been revealed by NASA, nor has NASA commented on the loss of his death. It’s like they just ignored it completely, which is weird.

That’s. That is weird. Yeah. He’s been one of the prominent researchers there since 1999, has worked on multiple projects tied to satellite technology that can scan Earth and other planets as well. In June 2023, just 13 months before his death, he was the lead professor in a breakthrough that could help future space missions detect clear signs of life on other worlds, including Jupiter. Jupiter’s moon Europa, which has always been, you know, kind of out there in ether as potential signs of life due to the amount of water on it. Also a couple of Saturn’s moons and a couple.

A dwarf planet as well. So. Yeah, so those. So right now, those are the, the eight people, which is super weird. So it does make you wonder what, what everyone is, you know, what has everyone been working on now? Trump made the announcement of the files, getting the alien files getting released, but that happened a little bit more this year. Now, some of these, like the. The retired general, he disappeared like two months after or two days after Trump’s announcement of releasing files, or it was like within a week anyway. Maybe not two days, but within a week.

So can’t really say that all of these are tied to that, but it does seem that potentially maybe there were some kind of communication between some of these people, if they were working on some kind of top project or a secret project, you know, or may possibly something happened. It is very strange. Like, if it was just like a. Like even that. Even those first two, it’s like, okay, that’s kind of weird. You know, can’t really say there’s a direct connection, but that’s just kind of weird. Now there’s like eight. So it’s like, this is even getting weirder, and I have a feeling that we’ll probably end up finding more, too.

So that’s. It’s. It’s very strange. And then, of course, we have, like, the alien breeding program that just has been kind of coming out too. This stuff gets strange and stranger and stranger, but it’s. It’s wild when. When we have Congress members now talking about this, but why don’t we get into a trailer and we come back, we’ll get right into the. The alien breeding program. I didn’t want to go public without evidence because I knew no one would believe me. The entire incident happened about five to six minutes in total. And my mom shouts really loud, oh, my God.

What is that? What is that? At no point did the two men in black or the Air Force gentlemen as my mother or her friends, what did they see? They looked human, but they did weird things. The men in black. They said, you will report it as a helicopter crash or we will take your son away. The Men in Black played the narrative, and the media outlets skew it back out. This was 1991, Project Mockingbird in full effect. Rob, do you want to talk a little bit about that? Yeah, that was our boy. Robert Earl White has three episodes outlining his experience with the Men in Black.

It’s really mysterious, and it’s kind of cool to have one that’s outside of the published stories being introduced. And if you’re interested in that story, you should definitely check those out. And on Rise tv, of course, we have thousands of videos, or a thousand at least, of content that you’ll never get bored watching. Yeah, mysteries, ancient civilizations, power of the mind. You name it, it’s all on there. And you can get access to that just by supporting our work and becoming A member of Rise tv. That’s how we get by. And. Yeah. And you join our community here, who’s awesome and hanging out with us right now.

Yep. It is great. It’s great to have you guys here. Thank you. We definitely appreciate all of you supporting us throughout the years. Oh, yeah. So we should watch this Matt Gates clip there. He’s weird. Watch Benny’s face and the difference between Benny’s face when he says this stuff. And think of that woman earlier who had no reaction. I think the most important information will be the biologics that are not human that have been discovered. And like even some of the briefings that aren’t classified just, just need to be out in the public. I mean, I had someone come and brief me who was in a military uniform, worked for the United States army that was briefing me on the locations of hybrid breeding programs where captured aliens were breeding with humans to create some hybrid race that could engage in intergalactic communication.

An actual uniform member of the United States Army. Brief me on that. That’s wild. Non human biologics. Interracial alien mating. What the f. Is going. Look, wait a second. You had whistleblowers tell you this kind of thing? Can you please. Yeah, I had. I had a guy who was. Who was uniform, he was a senior enlisted with the United States army, came into my office at Crest in Crestview, Florida, in a non classified setting. I had members of my staff there and what they explained is that the military ran a very secret program where aliens that were living were enforced breeding programs with humans that had been abducted from war zones and from even the caravans of migrants.

Now, again, I didn’t verify this, but what the whistleblower was telling me is that there were like between six and 12 locations around the country where this happened. And what he wanted was a group, members of Congress to all show up at the same time at all these different locations so that any of those activities could. Could not be moved. And of course, it’s a physical impossibility to get members of Congress to simultaneously show up at like eight locations at one time. And so that never occurred. What do you mean non human biologics like this? Well, that was the testimony of.

Of David Grush before the House Oversight Committee, which I joined. And the testimony was that in crashes of craft that had been recovered by the CIA and through a special program that the CIA had for crash recovery, that it wasn’t just the hard materials, it was also biologics, but that they couldn’t identify a human source of Those biologics. It means it’s aliens. Non human biologics equals aliens. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this is. It’s kind of. For me, it’s kind of exciting because, you know, this has been talked about now, for. For a long time. You know, at least really in the 80s, a lot more of this was coming out, coming out through the 90s.

And then especially, you know, now there’s been so many documentaries and movies and everything else talking about this stuff, and it just seems so science fiction. But, you know, I. I think the world will be very shocked once. Once all this really comes out. Of course, you know, people like us, not so much people watch the show into all these things. We’ve just been waiting. But, yeah, I. I think these are other reasons why, you know, I mean, can you imagine if this really came out? People are, like, really freaked out about it, and the military’s like, what are you gonna do about it? There’s nothing we can do.

I mean, I think that’s what they’re ultimately also afraid of, you know, that they don’t want to come out and be like, well, we’re defenseless. We can’t stop this. Or we know it’s been going on. So I think it’s just easier for them just to keep denying all this stuff exists because. Well, yeah, because then they would have to answer for why they hit it for as long as they did and maybe get thrown under the bus for some decisions that they made that could get them in prison. That’s exactly it. Yeah. And then here’s the Tim Bruschet talking about the same thing.

So now we have a couple different. Actually, Lindsay, instead of clicking on this one, go. Go to the next one. That’s the actual video. This is the article kind of talking about it. But here he’s saying Tim Burchet says that the people that know are dying. Which makes me think back to all the missing people that are, you know, dying or missing. I don’t have the tinfoil hat on just yet, Congressman, but I’m wondering, you know, kind of how you react to that, because you are connected. You’re on the UFO subcommittee. I mean, I’m just wondering what you make of that.

Have you heard anything like that? Well, I’m still a member of Congress, so I can’t really comment too much on what Matt said. But I will say this. Wait, seriously, are you being serious, or is that tough? I’ve been 100% serious. I’ve been 100% serious. I’ve been briefed by Just about every Alphabet agency there is. And I’ll just tell you this. If they would release the things that I’ve seen, you would stay up. You’d be up at night worrying about or thinking about this stuff. We just need to disclose and all. I’m sick of it. You’re.

Well, I was. I was brief. I’ll just tell you this. I was brief last week on an issue or, excuse me, two weeks ago. And it would have set the earth off. This, this country would have come unglued. I think if they would have heard all that I heard, they would. They would demand answers. And they. And we need to. But you know, it’s. It’s never going to get. Unfortunately, it just keeps getting covered up and covered up. And the people that know are dying or disappearing as the case may be. Wow. And for the record, I’m not suicidal and I don’t take risks.

I’m glad you said that. I’m speechless, Congressman. We should be. You should be. And I told the president, release it all. And the problem is the people that are around the President don’t know the. And the president doesn’t know the questions to ask. A few of us are gonna have to get with the president and tell him what he needs to ask and where he needs to look. I mean, you know, we’re in meetings and they give addresses and tell locations of items. I’ll just say. And the public has a right to know. Dadgummit, it’s your tax dollars.

Absolutely. You got my attention. Congressman, I appreciate you being as forthcoming as you have been tonight. And we look forward to having you back. Look, I know Donald Trump wants to disclose something. He hasn’t done it yet, but I think he wants to be the president to do that. Tim Burchett. He does. Hmm. Burchett. Okay. I said Bershay. It’s Burchett. Okay. Ben, have you seen the movie Hangar 18? H A N G A R 18. It was 1980 movie. I’ve heard of it. I mean, Megadeth’s. One of Megadeth’s album is called Hangar 18. And it’s all about the same similar thing.

I mean the whole, the whole print premise is that whatever happened to Area 51 happened at anger. Hangar 8. Hangar 18. Yeah. A lot of people think that Hangar 18 is real. Well, anyway, the movie is kind of like a low budget. People call it like a B movie. But if you’re, if you’re not. If you don’t care about the special effects really, and you just. It’s really interesting how all of this stuff unfolds. And when you think that this stuff, the stuff that they’re revealing and saying in it, was revealed in 1980, it’s pretty interesting.

It’s stuff we would Talk about in 2026 or on our show. Yeah, it’s crazy. Yeah, I have heard of this. I’ve just never seen it. It’s worth a watch. It’s free on YouTube. It’s free on YouTube. You can just watch it while you’re at the gym or something. Yeah, the guy who is the dad from A Christmas Story is in it. And the guy who’s the dad in Teen Wolf is in it starring. That’s so funny, dad. And Teemo, if I remember him. Yeah, he’s in it. Well, speaking of, like, crazy, weird conspiracy theorist stuff, you gotta hear what Bill Maher says, Lindsay.

This is long, but really, it’s only like, the first minute. Finally, new rule. Given the increasing number in recent years of sightings by serious military personnel of unknown aircraft operating outside our current abilities, if at this point you don’t believe aliens are here and observing us, maybe you’re the conspiracy theorist now. In the past, when it came to alien life, I was like a liberal college girl whose roommate is a lesbian. Not sold on it, but open to the possibility. My opinion changes when the information changes. Yes, there was a time when the only actual contact we heard from about aliens was rural people had been abducted and anally probed.

But you don’t hear about that anymore. My guess is the aliens gathered all the information they needed about us that they could get through our ass. It’s where I’d look. But now they seem to be on to another phase. They seem to want to be spotted. Why else this constant playing peekaboo with our military? And it’s serious people now. Not hippies or hillbillies. Serious people, people with Mike Pence’s haircut. Who are saying that they keep seeing things move through air and ocean in ways that defy our physics. Military pilots who say, yeah, I saw something doing Mach 2 and then it stopped on a dime and disappeared.

That’s not a drone. That’s not something from another country. Even Elon is like, not me. Now the government’s official public line is we don’t know what these things are. But in private, what they say is, no, seriously, we don’t know what the fuck these things are. But you can stop it there. It’s pretty good, though. It really. I mean, he’s. He’s right on point with Some with a lot of that. But I mean, he’s so right, though. It’s like now, you know, yeah, this stuff is real. And if you don’t believe in it, it’s like you’re kind of crazy at this point not to believe in this stuff.

The amount of posts on x about around UFOs from normal channels is outrageously high right now. Yeah, I mean, it’s like something everybody is now talking about it. No matter what your viewpoints are, your religious view points are, it’s like everybody is now discussing and talking about this. So very interesting. It really is. And speaking of which, Congress has a new deadline set for 46 new. Well, not new, but 46 secretive UFO videos that they want released. No word on what exactly. These videos are exactly like, you know, but I guess they have 46 of them classified right now.

UFOs are UF UAPs, which were all filmed by military personnel. And they want these out on. The deadline is April 15 to make the videos available to the public, which will most likely go on alien aliens.gov. that’s what I’m assuming. Ben, did you see the. The video footage of the. That was caught on camera in Austin, probably while you were there trying to abduct you. Which one? We. We did talk about the. That orb thing. That was. No, this is way crazier. Really? Really? Yeah. This is some of the craziest footage I’ve probably ever seen. Maybe Lindsay can find it.

It was Austin, I believe. No, it was very recently, like the last. Oh, then maybe. Well, let’s see it. I have to see it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, this is not it. No. Okay, I’ll. I’ll see if I can find it. Yeah, there’s been some wild stuff that. That has been happening. This is another senator. I think it’s Babet. Or maybe Babette. I’m not Bobert. Bobert. Bobert or Bobert. Okay. Oh, this guy? Yeah, this guy. Babbitt. Babbitt. One of the. I don’t know. Okay, this is a short. Gentlemen, breaking news. It’s true. There are aliens living amongst us.

There are aliens in Area 51. There are even alien human hybrids. I have been briefed this morning in a top secret intelligence briefing. This is April Fools, man. This is April Fools. Unfortunately. All right, I opened mine. Any open mind, because this is actually really cool. But know this. I will fight for accountability and I will fight for transparency. There is more to come. Okay, I’ve heard enough of this April Fool’s joke. Yeah, pull that up. Lindsay. This is really interesting footage. Although this guy, I don’t know, I mean, he’s posting a lot about the. Even though.

Yeah, I realize now he’s from the UK too. But anyway, now it’s. It’s new. Look at that. Look at the two spheres to the left and right of it. Isn’t that interesting? Yeah, it is. That was like right over you, Ben, while you were there. You sure this is Austin? It’s what it says in the post. It says one of the recent UFO videos from Austin. I saw it everywhere a few days ago. Really? Okay, maybe it was like a week ago, but like there. It could. There’s a close up of it too. Like if you keep watching, they close up on it and it looks even crazier close up.

You fast forward a little till you get to the close up part. There it is. Look at that. Oh, wow. Coming in for a landing. Looks like something you’d see in Star Wars Arrival. Isn’t that crazy? That is crazy. I don’t know what to think about. Looks like the arrival ships, kind of. They were just like big diamond things, so. Yeah, I guess I could see that. It’s wild. I don’t know. I wonder if that has anything to do with the fireball things that were spotted. It’s hard to gauge what’s. How big that is too, so.

Yeah, that could be one of the drone things. It doesn’t look like a drone. It’s weird. Does that look like windows to you? Here, right here and right here. Ah, I don’t know. All right. I don’t know. I don’t know either. Looks like it’s like a Quinjet from Avengers pointing down. Yeah, and it’s hard too, with AI and everything these days. It’s like, you know, it’s hard to say. It’s pretty cool though. I hope it. I just hope it’s real. That’s what. I’ll just say it from that perspective. So, yeah, pretty cool. Let’s see. I do want to talk a little bit about the Artist 2 mission, because.

Artemis. Artemis. Did I say Artemis? I said artists. I meant Artemis. Yeah, I knew that. Artemis too. This is kind of wild because there was a. There was a live feed and. Right at the 2 hour and 45 minute mark, NASA just cut the feed, which looks like some kind of orb or UFO image in it. Lindsay can’t pull this up. Okay. Right there. Right Thing is bright. Yeah. Moving fast. Whatever that is. Yeah, it is. And then right after this, like, NASA cut the feed. So to me, that Actually shows that the, the launch was real.

There’s a lot of controversy over the, the, over the, these images of Artemis and I was doing some research on them and I was trying to find where I, I was having a hard time finding some of the images. There’s one that looks deflated. Lindsay actually can see if you can pull. Yeah, this one. So many people are sharing this image and I couldn’t find the full image, but on the right, on the, the smaller rocket on the right has, supposedly has American flag. But when you really look at it, it’s not the American flag. It’s just a red flag that has some like lines on it.

And then if you look at the NASA photo, the image that’s not the NASA logo, like what is that logo? It’s an AI created image. So it’s like, why does it look like a blow up rocket? Well, that, that’s what everyone is sharing this saying the Artemis launch was fake and that it was all because, because it was done on April Fools, which again I can understand like, you know, being on April Fool’s Day, it’s like, okay, that’s kind of weird that they did it. But this image, everyone thinks it’s real. And I’m like, people are so gullible these days.

It’s like they see something and it’s like, yeah, and it’s like, just look at the logos, look at the flag, look at the images, look at any wording and see if it makes sense. See if you can read it. Because if you can’t, then it’s AI. That, that, that’s one thing. AI cannot do logos very well unless you give it very, very specific directions on to make this logo a very specific way. Like so if whoever was making that in AI didn’t put, make sure you use the NASA logo and spelled out NASA. They probably just wrote use the NASA logo.

And then it made an image that looked like the NASA logo, but it clearly is not the NASA logo. Why not just photoshop the NASA logo over that? I don’t get it. Not either. Because someone just created it, they didn’t look at it very closely and put it online. And all these people have been sharing that image. And the other one is what looks like actually I think Lindsay’s having a hard time pulling this one up. I can share it on my screen. Just a second. What’s going on here? Oh yeah, Lindsay’s got it. Okay. Yeah, this, this is the other image that is being passed around.

And this is 100 created by AI too. Because the Artemis windows do not look like that. So I, I don’t even know, like, what is going on with this. There’s so many fake things coming out of, of this other people. There’s another video of the, the crew that were passing phones along in the cockpit and people were noticing that the phones were all dark. And they’re like, well, if they’re taking photos, you know, why, why would it be dark? But you’re looking directly at the sun. So if they were taking a photo with the sun in it, the phone would naturally be like, very black because, because it would be so bright that it would try to counteract the, the light and the amount of light coming through.

And I think that’s one of the reasons why, you know, their phone is like, we see it as black. So anyway, but, but we are getting images of Earth, which is kind of cool. I don’t know. I, I think, I think it’s just upsetting a lot of flat Earthers, to be honest. So I think they’re like, these are all fake. This is all fake. Everything’s fake. And it’s like, I don’t even know. But anyway, it’s. So what if, for those of you that don’t know what’s going on with Artemis mission, it’s flying, it’s basically doing like a figure eight around the moon and then coming back to Earth.

So it’s like going whoop dee doo. Yeah, going around the moon, then coming back and then going, circling back around the Earth and then coming back in. So I don’t think it’s landing on the moon. I think it’s just doing a pass, a pass by kind of thing. On the moon. Yeah. No, they’re not allowed, remember? Yeah, I know they were told not to land on the moon also. It’s going to be very interesting because they’re going to see a lot of the stuff that you can’t see on the moon. So. But this could also be a whole different mission as well.

I mean, maybe their real mission is to actually get information on what is on the other side of the moon. That, that, that could be one of the things that, I mean, I mean, NASA knows that it’s there. You know, they’re not going to send, send up some, some astronauts thinking like, oh, yeah, you know, I mean, it’s like they’re probably already a brief them on what to expect. You’re going to be followed. You’re going to see a lot of different craft. You’re going to see this. I mean, you know, I Would imagine so in this case.

So what do you guys think is on the dark side of the moon? Aliens. A hollow earth or hollow moon opening. Like a crescent shaped hollow opening to get inside. I think those images are actually accurate. We’ve used them on our thumbnails. They’re like illustrations of this. Like opening with something in the center of the moon. That’s an odd thumbs up. No Pink Floyd’s gonna come up. Pink Floyd, dark side of the moon. Yeah. They try to Google dark side of the moon to find an example image. It’s the dark side of the moon. Not dark, just dark side of the moon.

It’s the dark side. Yeah. I don’t know if that’s a Mandela effect. I can see people shortening that. I don’t know. I just always remember it is dark because they sing see you on the dark side of the moon. They don’t see you on dark side of the moon. I’ll find it for you, Lindsay. Maybe what’s really on the far side of the moon. Evidence of a death star. That’s what. Somebody wrote. Something like this. That might actually be more the case. Just do a search for hollow moon theory and then click on images and it will come up.

Yeah. Someone Talked about the Milzy 17 said watch the fall. The moonfall, that. You know that. That movie moonfall was really good. It’s not like the best a written movie, I would say, but in a sense of pull that up information. Just pull it up. Easing. Pull up what you’re looking at. Go up. Is that. Okay, scroll down a little. Next layer. See that one right in the middle there? I can’t see your cur. Yeah, that one that. We’ve used that on edge of Wonder. I think that the moon has the ability to open like that.

I really do. Okay. And I think that sometimes. I think that sometimes those doors do open and you can actually see in there like that. What happens to the opposite side then? Does it crease? No, it’s. No, no, it’s like it would go in. It kind of like just like doors. Panel of doors. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. And then it just would come back around and close. I mean, the technology, I’m sure exists in that something like that. And it may not even open like all the way. Maybe it just opens a little bit, but. Yeah, that’s kind of interesting.

It’s a death star conspiracy. I love how they say conspiracy theorists. I mean, I guess in a lot of ways, you know. But hey, you know, that theory is more real than the science of the moon. Yeah. Which makes no sense. They can’t, they still can’t out figure, figure it out because it doesn’t make sense. It’s like broke off of Earth, an asteroid that drifted into space, which is impossible because it wouldn’t have stopped on the Earth. It would have went to the sun because the gravitational pull is so much stronger. And then I forget what the other one is.

But they all, they all are bad. This is a real image from. Yeah, this is when our. Who. Ken. Ken Johnston. Ken Johnston senior, who is a civilian saddle Earth civilian astronaut working for NASA, had a bunch of images on the dark side of the moon that were taken by the various different Apollo missions and he was supposed to destroy them and instead of destroying them, he kept them for many years and then eventually publish them in a book. So pretty wild. But we have all these episodes out and we have them on YouTube as well, which you can find them now on YouTube.

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