Reacting to Joe Rogan: The Truth About Aliens (He Finally Says It)

➡ Joe Rogan recently appeared as a guest on a podcast, sparking a lot of discussion in the UFO community. However, the author believes that many are missing key details from the conversation. The author suggests that Rogan and others in the mainstream UFO community are overlooking important pieces of the puzzle, possibly due to lack of exposure to certain information. The author also critiques a popular theory in the UFO community that aliens are highly evolved humans from the future, arguing that it falls apart under scrutiny.
➡ The text discusses the relationship between two types of aliens, the Nordics and the Grays, with the Nordics being in control. It questions the theory that Grays are evolved humans, as this would contradict the Nordics’ resemblance to us and their authority over the Grays. The text also criticizes the inconsistency of the aliens’ claims about their origins, pointing out that they have changed their story as our knowledge of the universe has expanded. Finally, it suggests that Jesus Christ is the missing piece in understanding the UFO phenomenon, arguing that the authority of Christ has power over these aliens.
➡ Marjorie Fish, an amateur astronomer, created a star map that linked alien abductions to a specific star system. Dr. John Mack, a respected psychiatrist, studied these cases and found striking similarities between alien abductions and historical demonic encounters. These similarities include the experiences often starting when the victims are young, running in families, involving sexual reproduction, and causing missing time. The article also discusses the New Age messages often delivered by aliens and the power of the name of Jesus in halting abductions, suggesting a spiritual dimension to these encounters.
➡ Joe Jordan, a serious UFO researcher, and his group discovered that invoking the authority of Jesus Christ can permanently stop alien abductions. This finding, despite its significance, was largely ignored and buried due to its religious nature and the reluctance of people to submit to Christ. The group also found that these alien beings could be demonic or fallen angels, a conclusion also reached by a secret government group called the Collins Elite. Despite the controversy, these findings suggest a significant link between religious faith and the UFO phenomenon.
➡ The speaker questions why the name of Jesus Christ holds power over unidentified beings, suggesting that these entities are not extraterrestrials or future humans, but interdimensional spiritual beings. They argue that these beings have interacted with humanity throughout history, appearing in different forms and names across cultures. The speaker believes that mainstream ufology is missing this crucial piece of the puzzle, and encourages open discussion and research into this perspective.

I don’t know if you guys have seen this, but Joe Rogan just did something he almost never does. He sat down on somebody else’s podcast, not as the interviewer, but as the guest. And what he said in this three hour long conversation with Jesse Michaels, let’s just say it’s got the entire UFO community buzzing. But it seems like everybody who’s talking about this is missing the bigger picture. They’re not picking up the details that were said and we’re going to go over some of those today. Now, let me be clear from the start, I’m not here to trash Joe Rogan or Jesse.

I think they’re probably genuine people just trying to piece together one of the biggest mysteries of our time of any time. The problem is though, in my estimation, that they’re missing one of the biggest pieces to this puzzle. And what they’ve managed to put together is fragmented at best. And again, I’m not trying to disparage them. I’m not saying that they’re trying to deceive us on purpose. Now, you might believe they are. I don’t know if they are. I don’t know if Joe Rogan’s a. He’s one of them, so to speak, but I don’t think he is.

And maybe I’m wrong in that. If you think I’m wrong, if you think Joe Rogan is like a CIA controlled opposition or something, put it in the comments. Okay, but even if he is, that doesn’t change what we’re going to be talking about today because he’s making these public statements and I think we need to not critique them, but kind of include some information. It’s some context in there that I don’t think he’s even aware of. Overall, there’s a lot in this interview that we could unpack. Honestly, I could make an entire video that’s like 12 hours long covering everything, but ain’t nobody got time for that.

So let’s just today talk about some of the missing pieces or the main big missing piece that people like Joe and Jesse and the entire mainstream UFO community, they’re missing. So today we’re just going to talk about some of the pieces of the puzzle that they’re missing. And these pieces, when they, you know, get put together with the overall big pict, it literally changes everything. It changes the way that you think and it would definitely change the way that they think. You said you thought they were beings from the future. Maybe that’s. What if I had to guess, like what they are, they Seemed like what we will be.

You know, like we are as time goes on. You know, if you look at ancient hominids versus modern humans, our heads are larger, our bodies are smaller, they’re more slender. There’s no need for muscle. There’s no need to physically move things. These. These things seem very slim. They seem very slim. And, God, I want to say they had. They weren’t naked, right. But they had, like, some sort of a suit on. But they were very genderless. Like, there was no defining, that’s a boy, that one’s a girl. There was none of that. Which feels like where humanity is kind of headed.

Yeah. Whatever. It. They were very clearly trying to scare me and then play we’re just kidding. Everything was like, oh, just messing around. There was a couple of those moments where I was like, okay, what are you trying to do? Are you trying to get me accustomed to interacting with you? Like, what is this? Because I was very weirded out, and I think whatever they were wearing, because I think they were wearing something, but they were. Like I said, they were very genderless. And again, I don’t fault Joe for this way of thinking, for the way that he is thinking.

He’s doing the best he can with the information that’s available to him, just like we all are. Right. To my knowledge, Joe is. He’s never been exposed to this type of information, to this type of research, and to the type of stuff that we actually discuss quite regularly on this channel and that we’re going to discuss in this video. None of his guests have ever talked about it. He’s never talked about it. He’s never publicly talked about any of this stuff. And to my knowledge, nobody’s ever sat down with him or talked to him explaining these things from the perspective of somebody who actually understands the theological and histor context of this, and not just this side, but also both sides.

Because to get the full picture, you need to have somebody who understands both sides of the picture and is able to piece things together, because mainstream UFOLOGY is totally ignorant of this whole aspect of it that we’re talking about. And look, if anybody watching this knows Joe, you’re friends with him, you’re an acquaintance with him, whatever, send this to him, or don’t send it to him. Send him the information that we’re talking about. I’m not trying to get on his show, by the way. I just think it would be interesting if Joe, who is, you know, by all accounts one of the foremost speakers of our time, was privy to the same information that we are.

Because the way he talks, the way that he tries to piece together these puzzle pieces that is the UFO phenomenon, it’s clear that he is missing part of those puzzle pieces. And like I said, it’s not his fault. He’s probably just never been exposed to it. And why is that? I think there’s a good reason for that. I think that the, the puzzle pieces that we’re going to talk about today, a lot of people don’t know about them. And if they do, they discount it quick because they think it’s, they don’t believe it. They think it’s just some kooky people, like they’re stuck in their rigid ways of thinking that can’t get out and can’t think outside the box, when in fact it’s actually the other way around.

It’s not us who’s stuck in our rigid ways and can’t think outside the box. It’s the UFO community, it’s the mainstream ufologists, it’s the UFO research community in general who is stuck in their rigid way of thinking, and they can’t think outside the box. And that’s why I think a lot of the reason is that people like Joe Rogan have never even been exposed to this type of thinking before. And if they have, have, they were probably told about it by somebody who really doesn’t know what they’re talking about and just scratched the surface. And look, guys, I’m not claiming to know everything, not at all.

I, I know just as much as all you guys do. I’ve just been researching this stuff for, you know, many years. So I think I have a solid grasp of the situation. So let’s get into it. In this interview, we’re talking about Joe and Jesse Michaels, they’re talking about, and they’re kind of operating on a theory that’s very popular right now in the UFO community. They’re speculating and pontificating about maybe that these alien, these, these Grays are nothing more than highly evolved humans that are traveling back in time to help humanity. Jesse laid out, you know, one of these points and one of his theories and details that gray aliens look like domesticated, basically future versions of us, that if you take humans and put them on a long enough timeline using the theory of evolution, that we will turn into the Grays.

I think he likened it to, like what a dog is to a wolf. We might become that to the grays. Sounds interesting, right? Sounds logical until you actually think about it, because it almost makes sense on the surface if you really don’t put too much deep thought into this. But here’s the problem with that theory. There’s actually many problems. We’re going to get into those. But this problem, this theory, it literally just falls apart under basic logical scrutiny. What do I mean by that? Well, let me give you a contradiction that completely destroys this whole evolved future human narrative, which, by the way, is running rampant through ufology.

A lot of ufologists believe that a lot of the mainstream UFO community is pushing that and it’s demonstrably false. But we’re, again, we’re going to prove that. So one of the main problems with this is something that nobody really discusses. Joe and Jesse didn’t discuss it in this podcast, and I never actually heard a ufologist discussing this or any of the other things we’re going to talk about. And what is that? It’s the fact that we don’t have reports of just gray aliens. No. Throughout UFO literature, going all the way back decades, we have consistent reports, mind you, consistent reports of other types of alien beings.

They’re called the Nordics. They’re called the tall Whites. They’re called the Pleiadians or the Space Brothers. And these beings are described by contactees, abductees, as being tall, you know, 6 to 7ft tall, blonde hair, blue eyes, fair skin, basically looking exactly like a human, just idealized, just more beautiful. But other than that, they’re human. They look exactly like us. Okay? There are people who live in this world that are human that look exactly like how these Nordics, how these tall whites are described. But the difference is that these Nordics, they all look like that. They all look like supermodels with blonde hair, you know, just beautiful people that are just.

There’s something different about them, but mostly human looking. In fact, they would be indistinguishable from humans in specific situations. And side note, that’s exactly what the Bible says when it says to be careful when you’re entertaining strangers because you might be entertaining an angel unaware. Now, here’s where it gets interesting, okay? Because case after case, abductees, contactees, you name it, they report seeing these Nordics and Grays together. And consistently too, the Nordics, they appeared to be in charge. They described overseeing the Grays, basically directing their activities. They’re running the show. There’s no question about that. Everybody reports the same exact thing.

One of the main, you know, one of the most prominent examples of this is Travis Walton. I think he’s one of the most famous abduction cases ever documented. You know, fire in the sky. He reported seeing both types of beings. The Nordics and his abduction were clearly in a position of authority. There’s no question about that. And this same thing is reported throughout many, you know, reports of abductions and contacts and all sorts of things. Contactees have been saying this since the report started. There is a documented relationship between the Grays and the Nordics that by all accounts is hierarchical, where the Nordics are the overseers, they control the activities, and they tell the Grays what to do.

The Greys are subservient to them. So think about that for a second. Just logically, if Gray aliens are supposedly evolved future humans, then why do the Nordics look almost like us? Why do they appear to be in control of the Grays? Right? Follow the logic here. Follow my line of thinking. The theory says that humans evolve, become Grays, right? That means that Grays are more evolved than current humans. That’s what they’re saying. That’s what the theory is. They’re the advanced versions of us. Now look at the Nordics, right? Like I just said, they look exactly like us.

Just maybe a little bit taller than the average person, blonder hair and bluer eyes, you know, more beautiful than the average person. They’re just optimized versions of modern humans. They haven’t evolved into something else. No, they look exactly like us, just, you know, with some bonuses. So according to the theory, Nordics would be less evolved than the Grays. And we’re supposed to believe that less evolved beings are commanding the more evolved beings, that the uninvolved humans, the Nordics, are more advanced than the evolved ones? How does that even work? That’s a logical inconsistency that really puts this whole theory to bed.

But there’s a lot more that we’re going to go into here that also puts this whole theory to bed, because it doesn’t make sense. This theory makes absolutely zero sense. And it’s very surprising to me that smart people like Joe Rogan hasn’t been able to piece together the full puzz. They don’t have all the puzzle pieces. They’re missing a couple very major things that if they had that information, I think it would change their paradigm. And, you know, I think anybody who gets this information changes their paradigm because this information isn’t something that people understand and then do nothing with it.

It changes everything. It really does. Because ufology in general, they’re not seeing the whole picture, right? So it’s no question that people like Joe Rogan, they don’t have the Whole picture either, because they’re getting all their information from mainstream sources. They don’t go to people like us. They don’t go to the underground to get information which is verifiable, by the way. Nobody’s just making stuff up. And what I’m saying here doesn’t come from me. I think it’s clear that this whole humans evolving into grays thing, this whole theory that people are pushing now is just. It’s simply wrong.

I understand where they’re coming from. I get it. But the facts, the actual real world, real life facts, they’re pointing to something else entirely. And what is that? Let’s talk about it. That missing puzzle piece that I’m talking about, the one that makes sense of everything, the one that brings all of the whole ufology topic into like a nice clean little box and puts a bow around it. Well, it’s none other than Jesus Christ himself. Now, okay, I. I know what you’re thinking. Before you turn me off, before you click off of this video, hear me out, because I’m not pushing religion, okay? I actually wasn’t even a believer in Jesus Christ until I figured this stuff out.

And this actually kind of pointed me towards him. I came to this information long before I was a believer, when I was in the mainstream UFO camp, right? When I did believe that we were some sort of, you know, unevolved version of them and they were just here to help us evolve to the next stage of humanity. But what we’re going to talk about here, how Jesus is the missing piece of the puzzle. It’s a widely known piece of information among the community of theologians as well as Christian ufologists who have been studying this stuff for decades.

It doesn’t come from me. Like I said, there’s many researchers, I think Jack Vallee, he was one of the most respected names in UFO research. He’s been pointing to this type of thing for years. I’m not sure if he comes out saying exactly what we’re going to talk about here, but he. I think he’s under the impression that they are interdimensional. Okay, and then you have Nick Redfern, who was a, you know, a UFO researcher who wrote a whole book about the Collins elite, the secret Pentagon group, who reached the same conclusion that Jesus Christ is the missing piece of the puzzle.

Now ask yourself, why would a top secret group within the Pentagon reach the conclusion that Jesus Christ is a missing piece of the UFO puzzle? We’ll get into that, and you probably already know if you watch this channel, but this missing piece, it’s not just about belief. It’s not about Christians trying to piece together different things to fit their own worldview. No, the worldview is what it is. And our beliefs have. They’re irrelevant. Okay, what we’re talking about here is a documented, repeatable phenomenon that the authority of Christ has power over these so called aliens. And this, again, this is repeatable.

It’s documented. And that’s not just something that Christians are saying to justify their beliefs in Christianity. Not even close. This phenomenon is way deeper than that and reality itself proves it to be true. So let me walk you through a couple more reasons why the whole, you know, theory of evolved humans from the future is fundamentally flawed. And that’s according to basic logic and critical thinking. Okay, so one of the main things that most people don’t get is this. If these beings are our benevolent descendants traveling back millions of years to help humanity, right? Well then why would they consistently lie to us? Does that make any sense? Think about it.

There are hundreds, maybe even thousands, thousands of confirmed reports, instances where contactees and abductees, I should say, were given false information by these entities. This pattern is unmistakable. And it’s documented throughout, you know, all the UFO literature going back to the 1950s. And during the 1950s, the original, you know, that was the original contactee era when things started heating up, so to speak. A man named George Adamsky claimed he met beings from Venus. And I think his contact was real, by the way. I think he was actually in contact with these beings, but they were lying to him.

He wrote best selling books about his, his friend from Venus named Othrion or something, Orthan, who came with messages of peace. He was told that these beings are from Venus, Mars and Saturn. That’s where they said they were from. But then something, let’s just say inconvenient, happened. We got the ability through technology to see these planets, to study these planets. We sent probes. We discovered that Venus has an extremely high atmospheric pressure, like 100 times greater than ear Earth. The clouds are made out of sulfuric acid and the temperatures are hot enough to melt metal. Okay, so yeah, nothing lives on Venus and Mars, a frozen wasteland.

Saturn, it’s a gas giant. There’s no habitable surface at all. So what did these space brothers do when confronted with the fact that, hey, we can now see these planets in detail that you’re talking about that you live on? Where are you? Oh, oh, we’re actually from somewhere else. They changed their story. Oh, we didn’t mean Venus. We meant Zeta Reticuli, A star system 39, you know, light years away that we conveniently can explore and we can’t examine closely. So that’s where we’re from. Now, that’s what they told Betty and Barney Hill, right? And this type of thing has taken place time and time again.

It’s not speculation either. This is documented history, right? Benny and Barney Hill. It was, I think it was 1961. They’re the ones who introduced Zeta Reticuli into the UFO narrative. And now it’s, you know, commonplace among ufologists and different researchers that these things are from Zeta Reticuli. Okay? And there was this one amateur astronomer named Marjorie Fish. She created this star map that was connecting their abduction account to that system. And suddenly that became the new origin story. So you had this woman create this map saying, okay, this is where they’re from. And then you had these abductees saying, the aliens told us this is where we’re from.

We saw a map. I think Betty Hill said that she saw a star map. And they said specifically, we’re from, you know, this place. So I want you to ask yourself this. Why would benevolent, so called benevolent, super intelligent future humans need to lie to us about where they’re from? Straight up, lie, lie to our face? Why would they need to keep changing their story over and over again to fit, you know, what our current technology is? Have you heard of Dr. John Mack? Dr. John Mack was a Pulitzer Prize winning psychiatrist at Harvard Medical School.

Those are some great credentials, right? Well, he spent years studying alien abduction cases. At first to debunk them, he didn’t believe it, but then after some time he started believing it. Because everybody that he studied, everybody that he interviewed, all the information he was getting started to line up in this way that was basically unmistakable to him. And any doubt that he had, eventually, you know, it went away because he started believing. He spent many years studying alien abduction cases, interviewing hundreds of experiencers, and he wasn’t some fringe researcher, Right. He was one of the most well respected minds in psychiatry.

And what did he find? Guys, this should be glaringly obvious to anybody who has the eyes to see. It’s patterns that should disturb anybody who’s paying attention. What are those patterns? Academic researchers have documented, let’s just say, very striking similarities between alien abduction, well, I should say alien abduction accounts and accounts of historical demonic encounters. Seriously, the parallels that they documented are pretty extensive. And here are some of them, right? So both typically the demonic encounters, you know, satanic rituals and alien abductions, they start with experiencer when they’re young. Both often run in families across generations.

The alien examination table, it mirrors a satanic altar in sra Satanic ritual abuse accounts. Both phenomena relies heavily on sexual reproduction and breeding programs. And both occur during states of altered consciousness. Meaning. Both feature missing time that can’t be accounted for. Missing time is one of the most consistent things that we see in abduction cases. Somebody’s driving their car, it’s one o’, clock, they look, all of a sudden they blink their eyes. It’s now 4 o’. Clock, they drive home and they’re wondering, how am I getting home at 4:00′? Clock? It was a 10 minute drive.

I left at 1. Where’d my time go? And then over the years, those memories start to return and it turns out they were abducted. Okay, the same thing with sra, Satanic ritual abuse people, they get abducted by these cults, by these satanists, and either through drugs or through some sort of traumatic fracturing, I should say, of their personality, they lose that time as well. And a lot of these SRA victims don’t even realize that they were, you know, involved in that, that they were victims of that until much later in life. Exactly like abductions. And guys, this isn’t my opinion.

I’m not making this up. This is published from academic research, okay? There’s research that is comparing the two phenomena. Let me see if I can find this research. I’ll put it up on the screen. I think it was called Project Muse. They published this research journal, if I remember correctly, called Carnal Knowledge. And they go through this and they connect all the dots and they find all these similarities between sra, Satanic ritual abuse and abductions, okay? I think they documented dozens of distinct parallels between historic demonic encounters, satanic cults, and modern day alien abductions. Now I know that could be just a coincidence, right? That might be what you’re thinking.

If you don’t believe it, it’s just a coincidence. There’s nothing there. The aliens are just using this same tried and true historical tact that works to get to gain control over people, to fracture their personality, to cause them to lose perception of time and events, right? But think about that, right? Because why would our future, you know, selves, our loving descendants, ourselves from the future, come back just to subject us to experiences that are basically identical to what ancient cultures described as demonic attacks to satanic abuse? Think about that. Why? And then, okay, that’s not. That’s not it.

And then we have the new age problem. The new age problem is A big one. Okay. And when you compound all these things together, it makes an undeniable case, in my opinion. So the New Age problem, there’s a pattern that occurs in almost all of these, you know, abductee slash contactee cases. Like clockwork. It’s these beings, the aliens. They always, without fail, deliver some sort of New age theological message to the contactees, to the abductees. They always push concepts like, all paths lead to the same destination. You are God. Everybody is one. We are all one.

There is no sin. It’s only learning experiences. You can do whatever you want because we’re all experiencing ourselves together. Reincarnation cycles through countless lives. Jesus was just one of us. He’s just an ascended master there. And, you know, that should tell you everything you need to know right there. But let’s get into it a little bit deeper because Jacques Filet, who, you know, we talked about earlier, one of the world’s top UFO researchers, and Joe Rogan, he knows about Jock Fil? A. I think he was even on his podcast, he talked to Jacques Fil? A in person.

Before Jacques Fil? A wrote a whole book called Messengers of Deception, he documented how contactees, they consistently will receive messages that are designed to shift their paradigm. The messages are designed to shift people away from biblical Christianity and toward a universal spiritualism. But here’s the contradiction that breaks their narrative. So the naysayers might be like, yeah, of course, that makes sense, because the aliens are just trying to show us what. What’s right. They’re trying to break humanity of this spell, this spell of evil, Jesus, and get them out of their little box so that they can free their minds and finally experience life for what it is.

But there’s a contradiction, and there’s a contradiction that breaks that narrative. It actually shatters that narrative to pieces. These beings, these entities, simultaneously try to discredit Jesus while also claiming he was one of them. So why would they do that? Right? You can’t have it both ways. Jesus. Oh, Jesus was just an alien ambassador. Well, if he was one of them, why do they need to constantly undermine his teachings? Right? If he was truly one of their, you know, enlightened ascended masters, why does his name have authority over them? That’s the big question. And it does.

We’re going to get into that, too. So they’re saying, on one hand, don’t listen to Jesus, don’t listen to the authority of Christ, don’t read the Bible. The word of God is just made up by man. And on the other hand, they’re saying, please don’t say his name in front of us because it’s going to cause us to flee. This is documented. The name of Jesus has an effect on these things. And this is the most telling secret of all. And this is the thing that I think Joe Rogan really needs to focus on because there are two books.

And look, I showed these books before we talk about them. These books have, you know, hundreds and hundreds of accounts of people abductees calling upon the name of Jesus and these beings fleeing, these beings being scared of his name. The authority of Christ has complete supremacy over these things. And guys, this is the part right here that nobody in mainstream UFOLOGY wants to talk about. And I mean nobody, because it destroys their narrative, it destroys their entire framework of the whole thing, and it destroys their paradigm. And for some reason they just, they’re so quick to discount it for some reason, which is really strange because they’re saying that these people’s testimonies aren’t real on one hand.

And on the other hand they’re saying that those people’s testimonies aren’t real, but these people’s are. So they’ll interview somebody who has had an abduction experience and they’ll believe every word they say, but then they’ll interview somebody else who has an abduction experience who halted it in the name of Christ. And oh, that can’t be real because that has to do with religion. So they see it as, you know, people who are stuck in their rigid ways of this human made religion, trying to put the ufo, you know, the whole thing in a box to fit their religion, but it’s the other way around.

And that brings me to this organization called CE4 Research Group. They’re an invest. I’m not sure if they’re still around, but they were or are an investigative arm of, I think the website’s alienresistance.org and they’ve worked with hundreds, hundreds of documented cases of abductees of people who have been in contact with these. And there’s another man named Joe Jordan who is the group’s president and was also a mufon, I think he was a director of MUFON or something. So yeah, these aren’t fringe believers, guys. These are serious UFO researchers who gathered this information unwillingly and by accident, I should say.

They started hearing whispers here and there of the authority of Christ, the authority of Jesus, Jesus having effect on these, on these entities. And they got curious about it and they started documenting one case and another case and the whole UFO community in General thought that these people were just looney tunes. Oh, just a few, you know, people here and there just making stuff up until more came out and more and then hundreds and hundreds. And now you have hundreds or maybe even thousands of reports of this. And what they discovered, it really does kind of expose this whole thing.

And it should have made international headlines, right? And this is the stuff that Joe Rogan should be talking about. And the fact that he’s not, it’s curious to me. I don’t think there’s anything nefarious about, you know, people like Joe Rogan not talking about it. I think they just haven’t been exposed to it. I think they just don’t know the research. They don’t know the, the truth about this. Because this information is so big. It should have literally made all the headlines in every ufo, you know, newspaper article, book. But it wasn’t. It was buried. Why was it buried? Because it was an unwanted piece of the UFO puzzle.

Why was it unwanted? Because if it’s true that Christ has authority over these beings, which he does by all accounts, then what else is true? That Christ has authority over creation, over you and I, and that we must submit ourselves to Him. And people don’t want to submit themselves to Christ because they see it as not, oh, well, it’s not going to be fun anymore. I can’t go out, I can’t party. I can’t live my life the way that I to live it if I accept Christ. So I’m not going to do that. And they bury it, right? Because the fact that our world itself does point to Christ as king, it’s.

It’s too much for a lot of people, people who aren’t ready to accept him. If they find out about this stuff, they, you know, it causes them to think differently. And these people, they turn a blind eye to it because they don’t want to think differently. They don’t want to change their life. They don’t want to be a new creation. What they want is to just. Just do what they want. They want to live their life according to their own understanding, not according to God’s understanding. Right? So let’s get back to this group, the CE4 group.

They found through their research, right, through all of their witness testimony that they’ve been gathering through, talking to people, real people who’ve had real experiences that alien abductions can be stopped, terminated. Not just interrupted, no, ended completely. Even after a pattern, a lifetime pattern of, of abductions. People have been, you know, a lot of abductees Report that they’ve had experiences their whole life. It started when they were a little kid, usually around the age of puberty, they’re taken, you know, many times, yearly, monthly, whatever it may be. You know, some of them, you know, dozens of times, hundreds of times.

People get to know. Abductees report this all the time, that they get to know their abductors. And a lot of times these genetic experiments are done. These hybrids are created and they are abducted and are able to interact with these hybrids. Person A gets abducted, they do these medical experiments on them. They take their sperm or their egg, you know, whatever it may be, and they intertwine it, they mix it with the alien DNA and they create these hybrids. And guys, this is common, what I’m saying right now is totally common in UFO literature. If you never heard any of this stuff before, it’s, it’s there.

Just look into it. And then basically, these people, after they, you know, have had their seed mixed with the alien seed, subsequent abductions after that, that the aliens let them see their kids, see their, their hybrid sons or daughters, whatever it is, play with them, even talk to them, interact with them. There’s so many reports of abductees who have had these genetic experiments done on them, seeing the, the, the offspring that they have on, on the ships, during abductions and playing with them, talking to them. It’s, it’s a real thing. And there’s this one commonality that basically happens almost every single verified case of abduction.

Now, what is that? That, you might ask? It’s the experience totally stops, permanently, forever, never happens again once the authority of Jesus Christ is called, is declared. So let that sink in for a second. These super advanced beings from the future or from a different star system, from a different planet, from a different galaxy, whatever it may be, with technology that defies physics, beings that can walk through walls and that can abduct whoever they want at will. There’s even abduction cases, many of them, in fact, in major cities. New York City, for instance. There’s this one that I heard.

There was a CEO of a major company who lived in a penthouse in New York City. I think he was a hedge fund CEO or something like that, a hedge fund manager, some billionaire. He had an experience where these beings would take over his body and make him write. And he was doing all this automatic writing. And this is a billionaire, guys. So, I mean, and these beings have the ability to reach whoever they want. Except Christians. Except Christians who know their authority in Christ. Because why else would they flee? They actually flee. They get scared.

When somebody evokes the name of Jesus, they literally get scared. And you know, to the mainstream ufologists, like, oh, aliens don’t get scared of Jesus. That’s ridiculous. Tell that to the people who said that it happened to them. Tell that to the hundreds of people who actually used this and saw it happen. I’m not saying this, guys. And when this MUFON researcher named Joe Jordan discovered this, he contacted these other MUFON investigators to see if they’ve encountered similar cases, because it was pretty strange to him at first. And they would tell him off record that, yeah, we have.

And it had to be off record because they were scared of losing their jobs, their careers. It was. Jesus is a dirty word in the UFO community. They talk to people who have had their abductions stopped permanently from calling upon the name of Jesus, from praying to Jesus, and even in some cases, singing songs about Jesus. The evidence of this, it was being deliberately hidden because it was religious in nature and therefore it wasn’t scientific. That should tell you everything you need to know. Because think about this. If you’re a scientist, right? What, what is science? It’s something that you can be repeated, something that can be repeated using the scientific method.

You have an idea about something, you find the method to do it. It has an outcome. And this is exactly what science is. So by definition, this could be considered science. It’s scientific fact that Jesus does have an effect on these aliens. If you look at it this way, right? Because if it is repeatable, that’s science. That is the scientific method. And if you think the government hasn’t noticed this, well, think again. Now, we mentioned Nick Redfern, who spent years investigating this secret group within the US Government called the Collins Elite. His book entitled, I think it was called Final Events, if I remember correctly, it documents their conclusion that these reported visitors from, you know, other galaxies, other planets, whatever, in reality, are deceptive.

Demons and fallen angels, those are two separate classes of beings. By the way, demons and fallen angels are not the same thing. So this group within the government came to the conclusion, using research, using hard data, that aliens are demonic, that they’re fallen angels, that they’re both, that the UFO phenomena itself is a part of this whole demonic, let’s say, deception. The group, the Collins Elite, this government secretive group, literally, they formed after investigating, you know, these strange events that happened in the 40s. So this group, they came to the conclusion that certain ritual activities, they opened portals, open doorways, they opened gateways, so to speak, dimensional gateways that allows these Demonic entities, these fallen angels, these.

These evil ones, right? To enter into our world, into our dimensions. And the Bible talks about this too, right? The Bible is filled with all sorts of descriptions of, like a portal where angels and spirits can come in and out of our world at will. So they came to this conclusion and in the 40s, and they still have this conclusion today, according to UFO researchers and whistleblowers, such as Luis Elizondo, for instance, who does say that they are still around today. And look, guys, I know I can talk about this for hours. I got so much more.

This is just the tip of the iceberg. And if you are, if this is your first time hearing about this and you’re more curious about it, you can go through my videos and watch them. You know, I’m not the only one talking about this. There, there’s a lot. Again, this stuff doesn’t come from me. It comes from these people, real people who have real experiences. I’m just reporting on it. So, you know, with that being said, here’s my question to Joe Rogan, even Jesse Michaels and anybody else in the mainstream UFO community. Because they’re all part of the same group and they all have the same, let’s just say, mindset, right? They all do.

So here’s my question, right? Why would the name of Jesus Christ have authority over these beings? Why? What’s your answer? Because by all accounts, they do. And you can’t discount every single person’s testimony. You can’t, because if you discount every person’s testimony, then you have to discount every abduction testimony that has ever existed. And then, then you’re left with nothing, right? Because most of the stuff that we know about ufology in general comes from people. So you can’t pick and choose. I’m going to believe this person because what he’s saying fits my paradigm. But I’m not going to believe this big group of people over here because what they’re saying.

Oh, I don’t believe what they’re saying, but I believe what they’re saying. No, you can’t have it both ways. You have to take all the testimonies and give them all this rigorous research and discernment basically to see which one is real, which one’s not. And it’s pretty easy. If you start looking into this stuff, you start reading books about it. It’s pretty easy to tell the people who are wackos versus the people who had genuine experiences. So again, the bottom line, the question is this. Why would the name of Jesus Christ have authority over these beings? If they’re just evolved humans from the future, why would they care? If they’re extraterrestrials from Zeta Reticuli with no connection to Earth’s religion history, why would the name of Jesus mean anything to them? Them? Why? And if the Nordics, who look like us are the ones in charge, and by the way, the Nordics fit the description of angels almost to a te.

Perfectly, I should say. And not just the description of angels, but also the description of ancient gods from every culture worldwide. So why would they, right, these beings, why would they be in charge of the grays? If the graves are just ethical us, if the grays are just us evolved, does that make any sense? How does that. How does any of that make sense? How does any of the mainstream narrative make any sense? Like, I don’t see how that makes sense. I think modern ufology, mainstream ufology, doesn’t make any sense at all. I think the stories that they’re telling are missing such a great big piece of the puzzle that no matter how they try and justify it, all their logical conclusions are illogical.

All the conclusions are illogical, except for the one. Because the main piece of evidence, the main puzzle piece, it’s Jesus. It really is. And like I said, this isn’t about religion. This is about his authority. If there was no religion, if humans didn’t exist, he would still have authority over them. And that’s a fact. So it’s not about us. It’s not about religion. It’s not about trying to convert people to Christianity. It’s about the truth, it’s about the facts, and it’s about the world itself is pointing to this being true. And in my estimation, the only explanation that fits, all of the evidence, all of it is the one that nobody wants to discuss, and that these are not entities from another planet.

They’re not extraterrestrial. They’re not us from the future. No, they’re interdimensional. They’re what we would call spiritual beings. And they’ve been interacting with humanity since the beginning of time. Time, just using different names. All right? Ancient cultures, they called them demons, they called them gods, they called them spirits, they called them the ancestors angels. You know, modern culture calls them aliens. It’s the same thing. The patterns are identical. The deception is identical. What they say is the same. And their weakness, their weakness to Christ, to his divine authority, that’s identical, too. And bottom line here, guys, is we’ve discussed on this channel millions of times.

I mean, not millions, obviously. A we’ve discussed it a lot that the Book of Enoch, it describes these watchers, but you don’t even need to go into the Book of Enoch to get this. It’s in the Bible. It’s in Genesis 6. All right, so I know, I know people. I know the Book of Enoch is kind of, you know, it’s making its way through these UFO circles, which is great, by the way, but you don’t need to go into Book of Enoch to get the same information because Genesis 6 talks about the same thing. Enoch just elaborates on on it.

And there’s a reason why Genesis 6 speaks of these spiritual beings corrupting human genetics. Right? Because it happened. The UFO phenomena, it’s not new. No, it’s ancient. So I think the bottom line here, guys, is it’s just a long winded way of me saying, no, these are not us from the future. We have not evolved into grays and then come back to interact with ourselves. There’s so many inconsistencies there that it doesn’t even make sense when you look into it. And I just brush the surface with this, guys, like I said, I can Talk for hours, 12 hours more on this who topic.

There’s so much depth and detail in here that you can. You just can’t put it in one video. And even if I did, it would like. It would be so exhausting that I wouldn’t want to talk about it again. And I have to keep talking about it. I have to keep it fresh. I have to keep bringing these things up because otherwise the world’s never going to, you know, get this, this concept. And I know I’m just doing a small part, I’m doing the best I can to bring this information to the forefront of the public’s consciousness.

And you’re helping me. So thank you, guys. Thank you for that than you for helping. Thank you for watching. And please put a comment below if you haven’t done so already, hit the like button and yeah, we’re going to see you guys next time. All right, God bless.
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