Did You Know There Are Two Kinds Of Spiritual Perception?

➡ The lecture discusses two types of spiritual perception: the ancient, or atavistic, and the modern. The atavistic perception, which is no longer beneficial to humanity, can lead to darker, fear-inducing experiences. The modern perception is what we’re striving to develop. The key to dealing with spiritual experiences is understanding them, including how psychic energy works in our bodies, rather than avoiding them.
➡ The text discusses two types of spiritual perception: atavistic clairvoyance, an ancient, default state of psychic perception, and modern higher clairvoyance, a conscious and individualized form of psychic abilities. Atavistic clairvoyance, which was more common in early human history, involves a dreamlike, interconnected perception of the world and requires a form of disassociation or disembodiment. Modern higher clairvoyance, on the other hand, is a conscious, individualized form of psychic perception that requires personal development and training. The text suggests that while atavistic clairvoyance is easier and more natural, it can lead to delusions and is not suitable for our current state of consciousness and individuality.
➡ The text discusses the evolution of human spiritual perception, contrasting the ancient, instinctual approach with our current, more conscious understanding. It emphasizes that in the past, humans didn’t fear death and had a different culture around it, viewing it as a transition rather than an end. The text also highlights the need for modern individuals to educate themselves about spiritual matters, rather than blindly following instincts or relying on others. It concludes by stressing the importance of developing our own objective perception of spiritual life, facing our shadows, and cultivating a deeper understanding of ourselves and the world.
➡ This text discusses the evolution of human consciousness, from a time when humans were more spiritually aware and connected to nature, to our current state of individual consciousness. It explains that as humans became more physically present in the world, our spiritual awareness faded. The text also talks about different epochs of Earth’s development, where humans transitioned from spiritual beings to physical beings. Lastly, it mentions the concept of atavistic clairvoyance, an ancient form of spiritual perception that has declined as humans have developed more individualized thinking.
➡ The text discusses how our spiritual perception has evolved over time. In the past, people were more connected to the spiritual world, seeing it as part of their everyday life. However, they lacked a sense of individuality and struggled to relate their experiences to their inner world. Today, while we have a stronger sense of self, we’ve lost that deep connection to the spiritual world, leading to a desire to regain it and become more spiritually aware.
➡ This text discusses the concept of atavistic clairvoyance, an ancient form of spiritual perception that is based on our bloodline and ancestry. However, it argues that we are not limited by this inherited perception and can develop our own spiritual understanding. It emphasizes the importance of turning inward and attuning to God for personal growth and understanding, rather than relying on external symbols or concepts. The text also warns against the dangers of remaining stuck in this old way of perceiving, which can lead to delusions and a disconnection from physical reality.
➡ True spirituality involves embracing God in every aspect of our being, transforming our physical form into a spiritual one. This process requires us to face and heal our pain and trauma, rather than disassociating from our physical existence. The physical world is as sacred as the spiritual one, and it’s where we grow and develop. We must be cautious of spiritual systems that encourage disassociation and instead focus on transforming ourselves through God, which is the only way to evolve.
➡ The text discusses the concept of atavism, which refers to the tendency to revert to ancestral type. In this context, it’s used to describe a state of spiritual confusion where people can’t distinguish between different spiritual beings or planes. The text suggests that humans have become more entrenched in the material world, losing sight of the spiritual world. It also discusses the difference between clairvoyants and initiates, with the former having spiritual visions but lacking understanding, and the latter having earned spiritual knowledge through personal development.
➡ The text discusses the evolving relationship between spiritual initiates and clairvoyants. In the past, these roles were separate, with initiates gaining knowledge and clairvoyants having the ability to perceive the spiritual world. However, today, it’s important for individuals to develop both these skills due to a lack of trust and the desire for personal understanding. The goal is to evolve beyond old ways of perceiving and become independent, spiritually aware beings.

Sa. Hello, everybody, and welcome to today’s lecture. So we have been talking a lot about the spiritual world, spiritual perception and angels and all of that stuff for the last few weeks here or months here, really. And we’re going to go even deeper into spiritual perception today and how we perceive spiritual beings and how that has actually changed over time. So what many people don’t know is that there’s actually technically two kinds of basic spiritual perception. There is the atavistic perception of the spiritual world, and there is the sort of modern or kind of exalted perception of the spiritual world, the atavistic and the modern.

Now, today I’m going to discuss this through Anthroposophy. So I’m going to be using anthroposophical terms, and I’m going to be using the anthroposophical system of Rudolf Steiner to explain this, including quotes and all of that. So that’s something that a lot of us don’t understand. This is certainly something that I did not understand, like 20 years ago when I was having spiritual visions and spiritual experiences. I had no idea that there were actually different qualities to visions and experiences and that they can kind of come from a different place in our soul or even a different place of the cosmos that we’re sort of always interacting with the spiritual world.

We’re always in interacting with spiritual beings, but not from the same place within ourselves. It’s not always from a healthy place or a productive place. So one of the most confusing things about spirituality, especially when you start getting into spiritual experience, is that you can have a vision, you can be psychic, you can have psychic abilities, but those abilities can be rooted in what would be called in Anthroposophy, the atavistic channel or the atavistic sort of perspective. And this is where a lot of the fear comes from, especially with, you know, the dogmatic faiths, is that, you know, because we have this sort of old atavistic perception and these old impulses hanging out, we’re afraid that we’re going to have evil experiences and evil visions, right? So the atavistic channel is really this ancient channel of spiritual perception that no longer serves humanity.

It’s sort of like this latent kind of perception we have that was designed for an earlier period of human development and for a time of consciousness that we no longer really have. And that’s where a lot of the darker experiences can become overwhelming. And a lot of the dark things of spirituality that people avoid or are really afraid of, it’s actually not an issue of being psychic or not psychic. The issue is, are you attuned or are you not? So you’re never going to tell the world, okay, don’t have spiritual experiences, don’t have a vision, or don’t communicate with God, or don’t communicate with your angel.

That just is never going to happen. The answer to dealing with spiritual experiences and spiritual beings is not don’t have any. It’s also not practical. And it’s not a solution to say, we’ll talk to someone in a hierarchy about it and they’ll tell you what it means. Humanity is becoming more and more awakened and perceptive with every generation, more open to the spiritual world, naturally with every generation. So we actually have to now be able to understand spiritual life. And that is the solution. The solution is to understand exactly what we’re doing and what we’re dealing with, including how psychic energy is processed in our body.

So in the anthroposophical system or the work of Rudolf Steiner, this is laid out pretty clearly. It’s the most clear I’ve ever seen it. I will be doing the Eastern examination of this for my members later on this week. So I. We’re going to do Rudolf Steiner right now Western. And then I will do the same analysis for my members later on in this week. And we’ll go through the Eastern system and traditions with the same concept, the same teaching, but we’re going to look at it in the east. And then we’re going to continue on even after this, to one more lecture where we get into the real pitfalls and kind of analyze the culture a little bit more as to where this kind of atavistic sort of fallen vision comes into play in the collective.

So we have two channels of perception. Technically. We have an atavistic clairvoyance, as Rudolf Steiner would say, and we have our modern sort of spiritual perception that we’re sort of fighting to develop or we’re challenged to develop. Okay, so let me read to you the definition of atavistic or atavism. So according to the dictionary, atavistic is a. To be atavistic is to. Is a reversion, a reversion to a primitive ancestral type or behavior, or a throwback to an earlier form, atavism, a reversion or a regression to a primitive ancestral type of behavior or behavior, or a throwback to an early evolutionary form.

So the idea of atavism naturally acknowledges that human beings are constantly going through a metamorphosis. We’re constantly evolving in form and consciousness. The Planet is evolving in form and consciousness. The cosmos is evolving in form and consciousness. This is law. This is the basis of real spiritual understanding, is that nothing stays the same and that all of our troubles come when we don’t understand what to release and what to develop. This is a lot of the issues as we try to. We try to hold ourselves in actually a prior condition or use atavistic channel, or use our atavistic spiritual impulse when we need to be actually developing higher psychic capacities, actually.

So let’s get into this. What do I mean by atavistic spiritual perception? So if we go back in time and we already talked about this a few weeks ago in my video where I talked about the difference between pre incarnation spirituality and post, but we’re going to kind of get into this again today in that if you were to look at humanity thousands and thousands of years ago, or even in earlier epochs of humanity, you would actually probably not recognize the human being. If you go far enough back, you probably wouldn’t recognize the human being in form because the form does change over time, especially long periods of time.

And you certainly wouldn’t recognize the consciousness of the person, meaning how we are operating inside of our mind. So if you go back far enough, humanity operated in a state of unconsciousness, largely a state of unconsciousness, meaning that people did not have a sense of self awareness. They couldn’t stand up and say, I, I am, I think, I feel I have seen. Humanity could not stand up and say I anything. There was no internal experience. People weren’t seen as unique individuals. And everyone operated as kind of like in a tribe. There was a tribal consciousness and everybody functioned as an organism within a tribe.

And there was no ability to be separate the way in which we are today. So all of this is comparative. You can always look back and say, well, there was some kind of individuality, sure, there’s a little bit of Ying and Yang, right? But overall, where we are today is sort of the, this peak of individuation and we look backwards, we get more and more, we get more and more of a hive mind is how we operated. So when we go back and we look at that, we can see that humanity used to have a very specific type of spiritual perception, right? And that perception was as though you were in a group and sort of part of a group.

Right? And that actually would be painful to experience now because it would mean sacrificing our organs of independence and our sort of mind and the things that we’ve developed now to even fit in that way anymore. So one of the biggest things about this, and we can call this the atavistic perception. So if we go back and we look at our early perception, we would call that atavistic because we have a new perception today. We’re dealing with new circumstances, new forces, and we’re integrating those. We can say that the. That when we go really far back in time, those are atav.

That’s atavistic perception. That’s an atavistic impulse pulse compared to today. So if we were to go back to that, one of the things that we would find glaringly different is that we didn’t really have the ability to be introspective. So you couldn’t have an experience with someone and then relate it to an inward process, or you couldn’t think about, like your own mind, or you couldn’t feel like you were a unique person that was having all of these experiences. You were constantly outsourcing your experience and triangulating it with a group, with a person, with another person.

So you didn’t really know who you. You didn’t have any sense of security or any sense of existence unless you were sort of constantly triangulating yourself with the group and also with the material world. So in the atavistic condition, the atavistic condition and the atavistic perception, we were incredibly materialistic and we were externalists because we weren’t self aware. We were constantly projecting ourselves outside of our body, outside of our being, in order to feel spiritual, in order to have an experience, because there was no inward experience yet. So we were constantly, what we would call today, disassociating.

So part of the atavistic clairvoyance is actually disassociation. Right. And we are also constantly externalizing ourselves. Okay. And this sort of triangulation that we would do with the group and the material world is how we formed our thoughts. It’s how we formed are. You know, it wasn’t thinking like today, but it’s how we. We interacted with life as one organism, basically. And we also saw ourselves not only as an organism, but that organism was part of an even larger organism, which was nature. So when I say that humanity existed in a kind of hive mind in earlier periods, that’s how we would view our consciousness.

That hive mind was naturally in sync and part of nature. We talked about this in the past video from a few weeks ago, how that operated. Exactly. So I won’t go into that again. But the experience of the old atavistic condition was also one where it felt very Dreamlike. So today everything is solid. Today we look around and we see the material world and we see ourselves in it. We see ourselves separate. We almost have gone to this extreme where we actually see ourselves as isolated from it. We see ourselves as isolated from other people. We see ourselves as isolated from the spiritual.

We don’t even perceive the spiritual world anymore. That’s how far we’ve come into a different pole today. But back in the day, in our atavistic perception, everything was interconnected, everything was interlinked. And we didn’t really perceive the mir. The material world as completely solid, more as kind of an extension of ourselves. And it was like we were living in a dream. So how we dream at night was. The further you go back in human history, the more life was like that. It was more like a dream compared to where we are now, which is very solid and material and separate and individuated.

So there is, we have to understand that there is this kind of latent channel in the body that represents our past and our prior condition. And that latent channel is called the atavistic channel or the. Or produces atavistic clairvoyance. So when you begin to have a spiritual experience, you can actually default into this prior consciousness that we’ve had and you can have entire spiritual experiences and spiritual thoughts and all of that, but rooted in an atavistic state state a non individuated condition. So the modern, the modern type of psychic perception is earned. The atavistic perception is by default.

It’s an impulse, it’s latent, it’s what everyone will have unless they train themselves basically out of it, unless they develop themselves beyond it. Again, this is why there’s so much discussion about channelers who are channeling demonic entities or people not being, not forming solid cosmologies. Why are people having spiritual experiences? But they make no sense. Why are people interacting with spiritual beings and not evolving? It’s because we have this latent channel within us called the atavistic channel. Rudolf Steiner also calls this the old clairvoyance. When Rudolf Steiner says the word clairvoyance, he doesn’t just mean psychic visions as we see today.

He means all psychic perception. He’s using it broadly. So the atavistic clairvoyance is something that everybody sort of has and that we actually have to become aware of and overcome. And, and a lot of the delusions stem directly from people operating from this latent channel that is producing spiritual experiences that the human being has basically evolved beyond. So the way that people are Experiencing things through the atavistic state is not correct for the kind of organs and perception we have now. We actually have to. We actually have to develop as an individual and go through certain processes to regain psychic abilities in a non atavistic way.

I hope this is making sense. Definitely. Let me know in the comments whether this is making sense. So again, there are two basic channels when it comes to spiritual perception. One is the atavistic channel, which is natural in default, and something we have to kind of overcome. But a lot of people get kind of trapped in. And then there’s the modern higher clairvoyance that happens now in the anthroposophical system. The regaining of psychic abilities from a healthy individuated state is called imagination. And then there’s further psychic degrees or psychic levels after that that you get to.

But all of those capacities are from an individuated glorified condition. Whereas the atavistic state is ancient and it is for a type of human being that no longer exists anymore. And we’re going to get more into that now. Why does that human being no longer exist? How can a psychic perception not be good? Or how can it lead to delusions? Okay, So. The atavistic clairvoyance is not a channel that you really want to use within yourself. Because when that, when those psychic abilities came on, humanity was not self aware at the time and they had to basically again project themselves out of their body.

So atavistic clairvoyance relies on disembodiment to work. So if you’re working from atavism, it requires you to abandon yourself. So while you’re. And the weird thing is, is that while you’re doing meditation or you’re doing some kind of psychic work, you might not even feel that you’re doing it. Because spiritual experiences can be so strange and unusual that it’s sort of like if you have one, it must be good or it must be meaningful and it’s difficult to navigate. But the more you have spiritual experiences, you will notice that there’s a kind of spiritual experience where you are embodied so you’re fully in your body, you’re fully conscious, and you’re experiencing spirit that way.

Whereas the more atavistic styles, you’re literally getting out of the way. So something else can come in which in modern times is not encouraged. So really deep somnambulistic stuff, deep trance channeling, anything where you are no longer conscious is becoming more and more dangerous to do. It’s not encouraged. The kind of spiritual life that we want is fully conscious and fully embodied. You do not want to be having to evacuate your body or evacuate your consciousness in order for something else to come in that is no longer appropriate for our age. I know that there are some people that are like deep trance channelers, like Casey or whatever, who do good work, but it’s not encouraged.

And it’s very rare, in my opinion, that that would be encouraged for someone. Because your spirit guides and angels are going to want you to be autonomous. They don’t want you to be operating codependently. So you have to go out and totally just get out of your body to have a spiritual experience. So atavism requires you to sort of disembodied in order to have spiritual experiences or go very deeply into psychic states. That’s a very, very old, old, old way of operating mediumistically. It’s not that it can’t be done. There’s always a crossover period. There’s always a kind of.

It’s never black or white. So I’m not trying to say that. What I’m saying is as consciousness progresses, we have to become more embodied, more awakened and more conscious during spiritual life. Like, we shouldn’t be passing out, so entities can. Can speak through you, or you shouldn’t be abandoning your body and abandoning your consciousness, so an entity can speak through you. That means that there is something within you that is at odds with the Holy Spirit that you’re having to get out of the way. Right. So in the atavistic sense, that’s what all psychic ability was.

It was about completely getting out of the way so something else can come in. And that was appropriate during earlier times of human development because evil was kind of kept at bay. So when you go back into the early pagan times, all of spiritual life was carried out by angels. So human beings, when they went into the astral world, they didn’t go around into the spiritual world according to their own will, according to their own desires and authority and adventuring or exploring in the early pagan period. And, you know, going back, the further you go back, the more it’s true, people would go into an astral condition and they would be totally guided by angels.

Everything about that experience was carried out by an angel. Today, when we go into the astral world, we have a sense of autonomy that we did not then. So as I mentioned in the last video, it would be an astral experience with angels and then a hierophant who was overshadowed by an angel, like a kind of master or a shaman or a Priest. So spirituality during the atavistic age, during early humanity, was completely codependent. It was completely. A lot of it was totally unconscious. Just unconsciously participating, trying to become conscious, going through all of these things, almost like in a dreamlike state to one day wake up and become a conscious participant in.

Now we’re a conscious participant. So when you try to work in the old atavistic way, you’re always leaving your independence behind. But people will lean into that because it’s so easy. And it’s been bore into. It’s been born into our soul. It’s like a pattern. It’s like an impulse. And most people, when you first wake up, when you first start to have spiritual experiences, they’re all basically atavistic because it’s using the channel that has been most used in the human being. And you have to work to get out of those experiences. It’s not an emergency. This isn’t to produce fear in people or paranoia.

It is to say that we need to understand that there are two different channels of perception. There’s an ancient channel that we have to evolve out of because we’re now in a higher condition. And we have to learn how to do that right? So a lot of the earlier atavistic condition was also a lot of, like, instinctual responses. A lot of instinct, a lot of compulsion, a lot of sort of just not a lot of. We just weren’t really conscious. And that’s where a lot of our instincts are as well. And the other thing that really defines the atavistic state is that we didn’t really fear death.

And because we were so close to spirit in the earlier epochs of the earth, we didn’t fear death. Death was just a transition to us. Today, we’ve completely, like, medicalized death. And people are terrified of death. They don’t know what comes after death. This is a completely opposite position to the atavistic state. And this is why you see, like, the Eastern traditions where they’re, like, meditating on impermanence and there’s like, a dead body in front of them. People think it’s some kind of cult or something. Like, it’s gross. It’s like, no, back in the day, people didn’t fear death.

They did not see death as something bad or evil or it wasn’t something they feared. They saw it as a transition into the heavenly realm. They didn’t try to kill themselves or kill other people in some kind of weird spiritual delusion. They just didn’t fear it. They saw it as a Transition. Right. So the atavistic cultures, the early human cultures, would do these weird sacrifice stuff, which is different than the modern human sacrifice that we see today. I’m not. I’m saying that, like thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of years ago, people didn’t fear death as much.

And there was a different culture around death than we have today. And also, interestingly, because humanity was almost like little children compared to where we are now, which is sort of like teenagers in the scheme of things. So much of our life was guided by angels, and the angels were known as the gods. So when you hear, you know, the Greeks talking about Mount Olympus and the gods, and you hear these different cultures talking about, like, the sky people or these gods, that’s talking about the angels and the archangels. And they were basically responsible, again, for a lot of our spiritual life because we.

We weren’t developed enough to become aware and conscious and participate in it. And so when people go into an atavistic state, they go into spiritual experiences like a child almost subconsciously expecting angels to take care of things or spirit guides to take care of things that they’re now supposed to be able to interact with. And so this is where you get people going on all these, like, journeys or something, or just not understanding that, you know, not every spiritual being that looks light or that has a good idea is good. So we’re now having to confront evil in a way that we were just not.

Wasn’t even possible during our atavistic condition. During that kind of perception, humanity was just not confronting evil the way we are today. We were protected from it. So when you open up from the atavistic clairvoyance, you’re kind of exposing yourself to things that you wouldn’t like. The way that you’re doing it on this natural atavistic state is it’s sort of like a naive way to go into things. And I do see people. I do see this a lot in the spiritual community, where it’s like total spiritual bypassing, where people will say, well, they won’t be able to ever describe how psychic ability works or what the spiritual world is or what a spiritual being is.

They cannot explain that to you. But they’re connecting with spiritual beings. So it’s like they’re operating like they don’t have a mind. They’re not educating themselves. They’re not educating themselves to the degree that they should be in order to be doing spiritual things. So you have mediums and psychics who cannot explain how their psychic abilities work exactly or how the spiritual realm, the exact way the spiritual realm operates, but yet they’re doing readings, they’re, they’re teaching, they’re, they’re out of, they’re out in the world. But they cannot tell you how they do it. That’s atavism. That’s a form of atavism.

It naturally happens, it naturally works, but you have no idea how it works. You can’t explain the cosmos properly, you can’t explain spiritual beings, but you’re still participating in it today. We are required to be able to explain it. Because now in modern times, we have gained the faculty of mind, we have gained the faculty of intellect, we’ve gained the faculty of self awareness. Because it’s also not an answer from the dogmatic religious sense. It’s also not an answer to say, just don’t meditate. If you have a spiritual experience, ask someone who knows. That’s also not a solution.

So the solution is not to continue down the atavistic path and just trust every spiritual being because it feels good. That’s called delusion, right? You have to actually learn spiritual science. You have to learn these things with your mind. You have to challenge yourself. You have to build the scaffolding of the intellect around this. That’s part of it. You also can’t. So you can’t go willy nilly into it with no education, no ability to discern what’s going on from an intellectual level, because that’s the atavistic channel, right? We’re supposed to develop beyond that. But you also can’t have what you see.

In dogmatic religion, where people have a vision, people have an experience, and then their priest or someone tells them, like, oh, don’t have that, or this is what it means. So you now you’re having to go through someone else for all of your, for all of your visions and all of your spiritual experiences. You have to be able to do that on your own. That’s part of being an individual. So even having to constantly go through other people is kind of a form of atavism. Because we have to be able to develop our own objective perception of spiritual life.

That is what we are tasked to do. So there was this protection from the demonic world in the earlier developments of humanity. And once we became individuals, we now have to face our shadow and we now have to face evil in a way that we weren’t capable of before. And this is why we have to develop our mind, this is why we have to develop intellect. This is why we have to develop an inward knowledge of ourself in the world. This is why we have to attune to God. We have to attune to God, develop intellect and go inward.

And that’s what creates the higher forms of clairvoyance, which are imagination, inspiration and intuition and anthroposophy. So we have to develop these things and get out of the old clairvoyance and develop real, genuine, higher, exalted spiritual relationship and capacity. But the main thing, one of the main things that I see today that is absolutely atavistic is this idea of like spirituality through disassociation. So you have to create some kind of frenzy, some kind of altered state in order to experience the astral world, in order to experience spirituality that is atavistic doesn’t mean that every experience you have in an atavistic state is useless.

It doesn’t mean you can never do that. This isn’t black or white. What I’m saying is those kind of experiences are not incorporating the organs and perception that we have today. So either we’re developing forward and developing the capacities we’re required to, or it’s rotting on the vine, right? We’re required to develop the perception capacities that make our age. So we cannot keep functioning in the atavistic way because it doesn’t include the mind, it doesn’t include inward introspection, and it assumes a lot of things about the spiritual world that is just not objectively true for us now.

Okay? So we have to actually, really, really work to stay embodied and conscious doing spiritual work. Because that atavistic impulse is always going to drive, want to drive us into fantasy. It’s going to want to sort of create spiritual delusions. It’s going to want to constantly triangulate the perception with the material world rather than it being a pure spiritual insight. Okay? So the biggest thing too is like suddenly, and this is what we see is that in order to sort of gain spiritual connection individually, you have to heal yourself. Because now real spiritual capacity requires a purified heart and soul.

In earlier periods, spiritual sight was natural. It was what you were born with. It was how you lived in the world. You walked around and you saw elementals dancing in the flowers. You saw the angels moving in the sky. You saw the energy body of plants and animals. You saw angels working through the plants and animals. You saw the spiritual world more than you did the material world. It was assumed, it was natural. And that came with a bunch of kind of settings that we operated in. The more, the more we move towards becoming self aware.

Because the only way you have that kind of consciousness where you just like wake up and you’re clairvoyant is if you’re not an individual. That’s like when you’re in a group consciousness and you’ve got angels carrying out all these things, and you’re sort of just like in a dream like state. You’re basically materializing into matter at that point. And the more we move deeper and deeper into matter, the more individuated we become. But the more the spiritual world fades away as we’re. As we’re tasked to draw ourselves inward rather than constantly externalizing. But the reason why we externalized and materialized so much in the atavistic phase, in the earlier phases of humanity was because we were kind of descending deeper and deeper into matter.

Not even just like physically, but with our consciousness. We were sinking deeper and deeper into a materialistic perception. And in order to do that, it was healthy for us to be constantly externalizing and projecting ourselves into matter. Right? Because we’re materializing into it with our mind and body, were coming into this world. So it makes sense that we would be triangulating like that. But now we’re in it now we’re materialized, and now we have to spiritualize. So to do that, we have to do that as an individual. So that’s where we are. But I want to talk about one more thing that is a really big deal when it comes to the atavistic clairvoyance.

And modern clairvoyance is the conflation of the material plane with the spiritual plane. So in earlier periods, humanity really looked like things were kind of in a dream. So in the span of the Earth’s development, there are seven epochs, okay? Now, the first two epochs of Earth evolution are not material at all. They’re actually spiritual. So the Earth is not a physical body for the first two epochs of its development. In esoteric science, this is called the Polarian epoch, the Hyperborean Epoch in the anthroposophical system. Only in the third epoch of Earth development does humanity begin to materialize into a physical form.

That’s Eden in the Bible, okay? That’s the seven days of creation or the seven epochs. And Eden is the third epoch, which is actually called Lemuria in the mystery schools. So it’s actually not until halfway through the third epoch that we even become physical beings, that we even begin to physicalize. And we don’t reach peak materiality until the Atlantean epoch. And all the while, our consciousness is also driving itself more and more into the body and into this domain, into this physical plane. It’s going through all these processes of physicalization, which includes all of these distinct phases that are laid out in esoteric science.

And so from the Lemurian Epoch, we are physical, but it’s more of an ethereal physical. We completely physicalize our form in the Atlantean Epoch, but in the Atlantean Epoch, our mind isn’t totally individuated yet, so we’re totally physicalized, but our mind is still operating as a bit of a hive. We only get that kind of real independent individual thought in our epoch. So if you look at the history of the Earth and you look back at the Atlantean Epoch, the Lemurian Epoch, the Hyperborean Epoch, the Polarian Epoch, you’re looking really at humanity as more and more of just a spiritual being that dips into matter but for a few epochs and then is tasked to spiritualize out of it through the transmutation of matter, which is the mystery of resurrection.

Okay, this is esoteric Christianity. The mystery of resurrection is the transmutation of matter through Christ. The human being must achieve in order to ascend or achieve eternal life. The planet is doing that, and we are doing that. And through this process, we have all of these different conditions of consciousness that we have to move through. Doesn’t just happen in the beginning. Angels do a lot of the spiritual tasks for us. They were the gods we walked with. They’re not aliens. They’re angels from the spiritual hierarchy. And it just seemed like they were on the same plane as us because we just saw the spiritual world more than the physical world at that time.

And I’m going to get more into this in a. In a video probably next week. So we have this. We have this view of Earth and humanity that’s actually very precise. It’s actually very distinct. We have humanity being beginning as a spiritual form with the planet that humanity can’t leave the planet. So the Earth and humanity are developing together. And all the while, humanity is moving towards self awareness, moving towards self consciousness, moving towards being able to say, I, I am. I think I know I am. And humanity can’t even really say that until our post Atlantean epoch.

The whole time has been a preparation for this incredible period where we can finally say I am. And we can finally say God is in me and not be operating in a hive mind, where we’re part of basically like nature as almost like a machine. A lot of the weird technocracy and harmonic stuff and the Borg and the hive mind is literally a technological interpretation of the prior eras of our development, which were a hive mind. It’s literally just sort of like this trap or experience that people will go into if they cannot individuate. It’s creating an external experience, an external process that mirrors the pre Christ phase of humanity, which was to operate as a hive, to operate as a group soul, as a group consciousness.

And we. So we have to individuate ourselves out of that. But we can see very clearly that when it comes to spiritual perception, there is this atavistic clairvoyance. And I’m going to read to you now what Rudolf Steiner has said about this. We know, of course, that if we go very far back in human evolution, we find increasingly that human beings of ancient times had an atavistic clairvoyance, a dreamlike clairvoyance through which the mysteries of the universe were revealed to them. A clairvoyance that was completely bound to nature, to the blood and the bodily organization. This was true of a wide.

Of a widely dispersed population. But this atavistic clairvoyance was in a state of decline and became more and more decadent. This becoming decadent of the atavistic clairvoyance is not merely a cultural. Is not merely a cultural historical phenomenon, but is at the same time a phenomenon of the social life of mankind. So in occultism, sometimes you’ll hear of things becoming decadent. So you’ll hear about like, okay, a Civilization lasts roughly 250 years or 1250 years for a larger view, and at the end of, becomes decadent. Decadent means that everything has an era of decline. So sometimes in spirituality there is this misnomer that the time that we are in is like filthy and degenerate and empty spiritually and wrong and bad because really, because we’re meant to confront evil.

But people look at it and say, well, this seems devoid of spirituality. It seems like we’ve lost ourselves. So I’m going to go back. I’m going to go back to some kind of ancient belief system and that’s actually going to be more pure, therefore, than where we are now. So there is this judgment and this idea that because we’re in this incredibly difficult phase of development, which is individualization and confronting evil, that suddenly there just is no spirituality anymore. So you have to go back into a more pure time and sort of participate in old forms of spirituality that when you really look at the human being, the human being now has different senses and different organs.

Or has kind of developed a perception beyond when that type of worship existed. It’s not that it’s inherently bad. It’s not that it’s inherently evil. Okay. It’s that there’s a metamorphosis to consciousness over time that we have to be able to observe, to be honest. It’s not about calling something good or calling something bad. It’s just observing where consciousness is at that time, what our perception was. And being able to say, okay, that’s what that is. And then what is this? Including so on and so forth? Okay, so when something becomes decadent, it means that it is in decline.

So that capacity has peaked and it’s in decline. Well, why does something go into decline? Well, nothing goes into decline unless there’s something new coming in. So that means it’s on the threshold of something newer coming in. So why the atavistic clairvoyance kind of faded away Is because humanity actually entered a new stage. And if you are to stay in this atavistic style of perception, Especially spiritual perception, Then you’re actually not developing the mind and the self fully. Because, again, in the atavistic phase, we didn’t have our mind develop the way we do now. So it doesn’t include that.

Right. So that’s what he means by decadence, in my opinion. But I want to. Mention a few more things before we close out today. So the other thing that is very atavistic Is that when you’re operating from an atavistic state. It’s nearly impossible to see the spiritual world objectively. So when you’re operating atavistically, you’re just basically in experience. And maybe once you’re out of it, the mind can come in and analysis can come in to try to understand what’s going on. But there’s no ability to really participate fully, consciously or objectively. Now that we’re individuals, we can actually have a kind of psychic ability.

That when we go into the spiritual world, we objectively understand it. When we have a vision, we’re getting way, way, way, way more information about it. Because there’s this objective level of consciousness we can now bring to it. Spiritual science was not possible 3000 years ago. Objective spiritual perception was not possible 3000 years ago. It is today. So when you’re in an atavistic state, there isn’t objectivity. Now, a lot of psychic visions are experiences. They are overwhelming. They are kind of atavistic in nature. That quality doesn’t completely disappear. But there has to be that objective development that comes in.

And that comes through the development of the self, the healing of the self that has. You have to turn inward, take responsibility in your life, heal your shadow, clarify the astral body. All the things that we talk about on this channel begin to produce this higher form of clairvoyance that we just couldn’t even operate from in earlier periods. And again, this big. The big issue is that the spiritual world would sort of be conflated with the material world. So in atavistic clairvoyance, everything blends together and it’s sort of like just very experiential compared to the many different sort of streams and objective experience of real imagination, as Rudolf Steiner would say.

Or the higher forms. And the angels were not seen really as separate. They were seen as part of our world. You know, when you would walk around, you would see the tree, but you wouldn’t necessarily focus on, like, the physical tree. You’d be more overwhelmed by the spiritual, etheric energy of the tree. So in earlier humanity, the further you go back, they’re actually seeing the spiritual world more than the material world. We don’t actually just see the material world as we see now until much later in our perception. So now when you get these incredible myths and stories about people, you know, doing all of these incredible things and animals turning into people and animals appearing in the sky and talking, and you get this incredibly fantastical description of life and stories about little people and demons, and you’re reading these, the.

These old myths and tales and you’re like, what were these people smoking? Like, what, a little person came out of a tree and, like, took you away for. And time disappeared, or, you know, great Great Grandmother Spider was weaving in the heavens and the Great Thunderbird appeared as a man in the sky. And you’re hearing all of these beautiful stories and we can’t even relate to them because our experience is not the same as it was thousands of years ago. That’s what they saw, that’s what they experienced. And that was normal for them at that time.

For us at that time, that was normal. You know, you have the idea of a familiar in a lot of, like Wicca or in the animism of the first nations people. Yeah, they would actually be able to see the spiritual beings behind the animals, behind the trees. That was normal for them. They understood the archetypes behind everything and how everything fit together and how everything played together from a spiritual perspective. What they didn’t have was a sense of themselves as an individual and how to relate those things to their own inner world. So we’re in this weird position where we can kind of remember that.

And we try to go back into that experience, but with a completely different kind of mind from a completely different position. And that’s why it produces delusions, is because it’s like auto set for this earlier kind of perception, but we can’t actually have that perception anymore. So this is why people get really caught up into delusions about different things. And we’ll get into that in the next video next week. Like, the specific delusions that I feel like come from atavism. So. But it’s. It’s. It’s really like a lot of people. I mean, a lot of people in spirituality, like, you’ll see people and they’ll just completely want to live in a fantasy.

And you can tell that they’re really struggling with the fact that we are so cut off with. We are so cut off from the spiritual world now. And we live our life here. And it’s completely normal to be an atheist. It is completely normal for someone to say, God does not appear to me in the material world as I expect him to, therefore he doesn’t exist. You know, there are people that are like, I don’t know if anything happens after death. I don’t know if I have a soul. I don’t know if angels are real. We are living in a time on the planet that is so delusional that a large portion of people can’t even acknowledge objective facts about themselves and the cosmos.

So there’s this incredible sacrifice that humanity had to make in order to have freedom, in order to have independence. And that sacrifice was our old clairvoyance, our old spiritual perception. We couldn’t just continue to be operating in, like, this group soul in this shared spiritual world and evolve because we weren’t free, we weren’t independent. We were just a cog in the wheel. And of course, that became decadent because people do begin to individuate. And then the people that individuate begin to try to control, or you get these weird things going on. So this is sort of the clash and transition that we’re in, which is a lot of us remember this magical time and we desire to return to it, but it’s not obvious to us anymore.

And that’s why people say, oh, it’s a prison planet and we’re trapped here and we’re in the material world because we’re finally materialized. Our body, our mind. And now we’re in this crisis where we have to figure out how to get it back, we have to figure out how to get that clairvoyance back. We have to figure out how to spiritual become spiritual again. It’s a longing that is in everyone’s heart, but we all, we often can’t put our finger on it. Well, this is part of that. Part of it is understanding the full trajectory of human perception over our entire existence.

Right. That’s what these few lectures are about. And I want to remind you as well that I am doing a course. It is called the Spirit Guides and Angels class. And week three is actually all about atavism. And it’s all about how the energy body is actually different in an atavistic person. And someone who is working themselves out of the atavistic condition. How the energy body synthesizes energy to be of a certain quality. And so we’re getting into this topic on a technical level in my class. So if you’re interested in that, do consider participating. Okay.

And really interesting in this quote from Rudolf Steiner, he talks about the atavistic clairvoyance also being rooted in, in blood and materiality. And this is the other thing about atavism is that old perception was very obsessed with blood. So the blood is like the interface between the physical world and the spiritual world. It’s like the etheric, it’s like, it’s like the etheric stream. It’s like the physical eyes sort of thing. And so in the old atavistic clairvoyance, it was heavily, heavily, heavily rooted in blood. And a lot of the spiritual perception depended on ancestors and it depended on the idea of lineage, lineage, ancestors.

And the perception wasn’t yet beyond that. So this is where you get all of the crazy people who are obsessed with bloodlines. That is a form of atavism. If you think that you’re getting your power as a human being or as a family because you have a certain blood or because you’re part of a certain tribe or a certain race, you are atavistic. You are operating from a worn out, tired, and now ridiculous system that doesn’t serve you or the world anymore. Everybody has Christ in their blood. Everybody is redeemed. Everybody is beyond atavism by the fact that we have received the Christ.

But in earlier periods, people depended on their blood to do spiritual things. Their blood was very important. And this is where you get into like tribes and clans not wanting to interbreed with one another because they didn’t want to mess up their blood, because the blood had to be a certain way in order for Ancestors to come through and things like that. It wasn’t even necessarily like prejudice. It was just that, like, if at a certain time in human development, if the blood memory was lost, it would become harder and harder to connect spiritually. But then after we get the incarnation of Christ, none of that matters because now God is within, and that is our reference point.

We don’t have to depend on the kind of psychic processes in the body that depend on blood and ancestors. We. We have the ability to. To do it by ourselves according to qualities that we develop. We’re not limited to a certain kind of perception based on whether our grandmother had it or our grandfather or whatever that plays in it does. Ancestry does play in. Again, it doesn’t completely disappear in importance. It is there and it’s an edge, right? It exists, but it’s not the main component. So you wouldn’t craft an entire religion or a belief system or like a spiritual system around having a certain bloodline, because that has moved into the background.

It’s there. You still have your ancestors literally in your blood. You have a bloodline, you have ancestors. That’s a thing that’s going to affect your consciousness for sure. But it used to be the main thing. It used to be everything. And that’s where you get into, like, royal lineages of people who were able to contain angels in their body and had these exalted etheric bodies. And that was in the blood of the family and things like that. We’re so far beyond that stage, and it’s not a very highly functioning place for humanity anyway. This is where we want to be, where every single person has Christ within themselves, within their blood, and can now transform themselves through God within, which was not happening during this earlier atavistic stage.

So a lot of atavistic clairvoyance is sort of like it doesn’t even refer to Christ, which is the problem. It doesn’t understand Christ. Like, people who are really trapped in an atavistic condition do not understand Christ. They don’t understand Jesus. They don’t understand where we are in time. They’re completely operating as though, like, Jesus again, is like a symbol or something, or Christ is an archetype. It’s an externalized concept that’s completely disembodied and doesn’t understand, again, the importance of God and man, God incarnating in man. So again, a lot of the time just Christ is not understood from an atavistic perspective because Christ had not yet come and the blood was not yet changed.

And so there. That’s also very common with atavism is just. Just Christ. The. The being that is Christ is not understood. And it’s a very archaic way of trying to operate because Christ is the transformative force in the human being. And it’s all. He’s always been the transformative force in the cosmos. But we used to see the Christ as being outside of us. We used to see the Christ as being the Great Spirit in the sun. We used to relate to Christ differently. Right? And so you can’t really. Why relate to him that way still when it’s now within? Why treat Christ as though it’s outside of us? Why have this externalized system when it’s within now? So the atavistic clairvoyance is always outside.

It’s always externalizing everything. Everything’s always a symbol. It’s. It never actually comes into the human being. It’s never embodied. Christ never becomes embodied in a man. You know, you can never turn a spiritual lesson into an action, an activity. It always just remains something you think about. It’s not actualized. So atavism is also just disconnected, like thinking about things or. Or projecting into ideas, things staying at that level, but not really ever, you know, coming in. So that’s just some things about atavism. It is very based on the blood and it does triangulate with the material world because we are sort of materializing and it depends on.

It’s a very materialistic kind of psychic perception. And again, a lot of people who are operating from this old kind of psychic perception have spiritual materialism. Like they. That’s what their idea of spirituality is. And that’s a form of atavism as well. So atavistic clairvoyance is our inherited clairvoyance. It’s the default and it’s latent. And that’s going to be to varying degrees in the person. Because we do live many lives and life after life, we’re sort of evolving out of this. And so it depends on how deeply rooted that channel is in the person. Some people are completely operating in it.

Still other people are moving beyond it. And again, I’m not trying to create some weird dichotomy or division. It’s just we actually have to go through changes. We don’t stay in the same state. So we have to talk about the differences between conditions so that we can evolve through it. Not so one person’s crappy and in an atavistic state. And I’m not. That’s not what this is about. This is about actually understanding that we have to turn inward. Okay. And understand that higher psychic abilities exist that actually lead to the evolution of your soul and the right perception of the spiritual plane from an objective place where the atavistic perception just is not that we have to understand that we have to evolve out of certain conditions to fully be kind of crowned in higher ones.

That’s just part of life. Right. So in the new age, this is often called false light. So sometimes you’ll hear conversations in the new age about discernment. And when people talk about the fault, like false light experiences false light beings, that’s atavism. So even in the new age, which I think would be quite atavistic in character, people understand that there is a higher kind of perception. And there’s also a lower perception that comes from the lower astral or these lower channels in the body. And in my. In week three of my angels course, we talk about this atavistic channel and the energy body and we connect it to the moon and the lunar sphere and we go very deeply into it there as well, which I won’t be doing today.

It’s also much more technical. Week three is very technical. Yeah. And one of the reasons, again, why we don’t want to develop higher clairvoyance and really gain a good spiritual perspective is because it’s really painful and higher attunement is really hard one. And because the atavistic clairvoyance is so materially oriented, It offers people the idea to stay really enmeshed with the material world, but have this kind of ancient spiritual perception. But you don’t have to really grow, you don’t have to really sacrifice anything. You don’t have to heal yourself. But the problem is the more that you stay in that, the more it kind of degenerates you.

Because turning inward and becoming self aware and attuning to God is the task at hand. So if we avoid that, then we lose ourselves. It’s not even about like, can you see a spirit or not? It’s not even about spiritual perception. It’s like we have to turn inward and attune to God to actually get an honest sense of ourself and who we really are. That’s the real reason for the. The real reason for this isn’t about having any kind of ability. It’s not about mediumship. It’s about you actually coming into who you truly are. But naturally when you do that, you begin to sense spirit, you begin to return to spirit.

So that’s why we have to have these conversations as well. But people feel very alienated. It’s, it’s, it’s not fun having to, you know, follow your heart and trust your intuition and release any attachments you have to the world. All of that is very, very painful. So it’s so tempting to feel like you can have a spiritual experience or experience God without doing that. But you really can’t experience God clearly unless you are clear. Right? And the kind of psychic perception that doesn’t require clarity is always going to be that atavistic perception. And as we’re going to talk about on my members page, we’re going to go into this even deeper, but we’re going to go into this through the Eastern perspective, which should be really interesting.

So man has to sacrifice his ancient clairvoyance and spiritual perception to develop freedom, individuality and intellect. That’s the whole point is we have to sacrifice this old way of being for a new way. And that is the real idea of sacrifice and development. Okay, I’m going to read the conclusion and then I’m going to read something from Rudolph Steiner, and then you’ll be off on your merry way. All right. So atavistic spiritual perception is an ancient form of clairvoyance that is rooted in humanity’s earlier developmental period before we gained the ability to become an individual. Atavism is the default perception we are born with.

And we have to develop higher attunement and faculties to evolve out of it. If this ancient perception goes unchecked, the individual will experience delusions particularly. They will be unable to be fully embodied while having a spiritual experience and project themselves into the astral world seeking a return to the collective body. So you’ll notice this actually is that some people’s definition of a spiritual experience is to literally disassociate from their body and project into a collective, some kind of spiritual collective return to the one. So it is disassociating themselves from physical reality and returning to some kind of collective godhead.

What does that sound like? That sounds like uploading your consciousness into the cloud. Real spirituality does not come from you disassociating from your material life, from you abandoning your physical form or physical life in any way. Real spirituality requires bringing God into every cell of your being to the point that eventually your material form will be completely transmuted into a spiritual body. So actually, real spiritual development comes through embodiment. And when you can, and when you can glorify yourself enough, and it’s through Christ within the heart that this happens, you literally begin to Evolve your subtle bodies and your physical body into a spiritual form.

You’re not going to do that. If you think. If you have an atavistic perspective. And you literally think that how you’re going to be spiritual is to not be embodied. That the physical world is all. Maya, it doesn’t matter. And the whole point is just you zipping out of your body into some, like, collective godhead somewhere. And that’s you returning to God. Like you returning to God is abandoning physical life. That’s what a lot of people think. A lot of people think very. They have, like, very misanthropic views of humanity, very dark views of the planet, very dark views of the material world.

And their whole form of spirituality is like, I’m just going to meditate all day and disassociate. Their whole life is just. How can I disassociate from physicality? Why? Because we have to go through that process of catharsis. We have to purify the astral body. We have to purify ourselves of shadow, of pain, of trauma. We have to heal. And that hurts, but that’s embodiment. So there are impulses within every human being that are atavistic. It’s the atavistic channel. And that tells you to disassociate. Okay. And that the entire physical world doesn’t mean anything. It’s all just.

Maya, it’s all just illusion. It’s delusion. It belittles the material world. The material world is just as holy as the spiritual world, as it is extension of it. It’s a different quality, but it’s an extension of spiritual life. It is the realm in which we catalyze ourselves, in which we develop. So be very careful of these atavistic ideas that are so natural that a lot of people get caught up in that actually do not produce evolution in your soul. They actually do not grow you. We have to be embodied. We have to be in our form.

No matter how painful it is. We have to work through our physicality. There’s a. There’s a reason why. And this is why I was talking about in the other video. About how the east has retained the teachings of reincarnation and some teachings about spiritual beings and life after death. But the west has lost it is because the. The atavistic impulse to just disappear into the idea of having 10,000 lives and never think about this one is so strong. The idea to not be embodied, to not become an individual and to just dissolve yourself into the collective.

That is such a strong impulse. Inside every human being. Because it hurts to individuate. It hurts to heal. It hurts to develop that hierarchical. Because we have to sacrifice something of ourself to do it. But these old atavistic styles dissolve the soul. There is no releasing ourselves into the cloud. There is no abandoning the physical form. There’s only transforming it through God, through Christ. That’s the only way we evolve, moving forward. That’s it. We glorify the physical body. We glorify the astral body. We glorify the etheric body. That is eternal life. That is glory. That is our task.

That is initiation science. That is where we are today in our development. We cannot keep following these atavistic impulses. Into these unhealthy spiritual systems. A lot of which are about disassociating. Bloop. I’m just gonna. I’m just gonna sit. I’m not gonna do anything. Not gonna go inward at all. I’m just gonna engage in fantasy all the time, spiritual fantasy. Or I’m going to just return to the Godhead in my spirit. Without ever transforming my bodies. This is that. That is atavistic. Okay, so. So atavism. If somebody is operating from the atavistic clairvoyance. They will believe spirituality is the dissolution of the individual.

Into an overarching collective entity. And they will crave disembodiment, crave disassociation. And easily abandon any agency in the astral world. For imaginative journeys and experiences led by spiritual entities. So it’s a childlike condition. There is no realization of the self. Or how the self develops in spiritual life. The abandonment of the self to return to a collective body. And the belief that benevolent spiritual beings. Will guide them through ecstatic experience. Is also an atavistic spiritual belief. Because, remember, the angels used to do everything for us. So a lot of people just think that a lot of experiences that are dark aren’t really dark.

They just automatically assume they’re good, that they’re light. Because we operated under a certain protection in the early phases of humanity. We are protected from a lot of the evils that are now rampant in the world. So you just can’t open up in the way. In the style that we used to in earlier periods. You have to have your eye developed. You have to be an individual. You have to have a kind of perception to even do it right. The need for a hierophant or guru. To pass qualities on to the individual. Or perform spiritual tasks on their behalf.

Is also atavistic. We talked about this a bit more A few weeks ago, the involvement of the hierophant and how back in the day, you used to actually be able to pass on qualities and initiate people with a hierophant that basically had an angel occupying his form. And you used to have female oracles that would also be working with beings coming through for their own, like angels coming through. So there’s a whole. There was a whole culture in the atavistic period of literally attuning to very high angels and then sharing that with the world. But now that becomes dangerous because we have to be able to do it consciously and we don’t, again, have the same protections.

And you also have to be able to understand the spiritual world yourself. You can’t always have somebody coming in again and telling you what everything means and this and that. You have to be able to develop the intellect, the spiritual sensibilities, and the courage, the power, all the qualities to do it yourself. So you can’t depend that every spiritual being you encounter is going to be good. And good and bad is going to be related to how purified you are of your own shadow and darkness. That’s what it’s like now. There’s no natural, you know, barrier there anymore.

You will experience what you are in the spiritual world. That’s what you will experience. Wasn’t like that before. So that becomes a barometer for how healed you are. Right? And also, you know, you can’t have every someone do everything for you. You’re gonna have to learn all of. To do all of this yourself. You’re gonna have to grind through it. You can’t just have somebody figure everything out. Like, you know, do all of your spiritual calculations. Like I hear sometimes, you know, people, you know, especially in dogmatic Christianity, that again, like, people aren’t allowed to if they have a vision or they have a spiritual experience.

It’s. It’s like greatly, people think like, oh, my God, like, you better bring that to your priest, you better bring that to your pastor. They better sort that out for you better. So it’s this outsourcing, this constant outsourcing of your spiritual experience to a guru, to a priest, to a shaman, which is not sustainable. You have a soul, you have spirit. You have to be able to interact with that yourself and understand it yourself and develop the capacities and the qualities. I’m not saying you can’t have a teacher. I’m not saying you can’t have a priest.

I’m not saying you can’t have a guru. I’m not saying that at all. I Think that’s great. I think ritual and routine is great. I think community is great. I think all of these things are purposeful. It’s just that when we do that, when we go to a priest, when we go to a shaman, when we go to a teacher, we experience that it’s the way we do it. Which means that you’re not going to that person thinking that you’re always going to be doing that. You understand that you are developing as a human being that is spiritual, and that every day you are working towards becoming more and more able to objectively perceive spiritual life because it’s part of you.

You have spiritual bodies, you have an angel. You have spiritual beings all around you all the time. We all do. So we have to be conscious participants in. So you can have whatever community, whatever religion, whatever, anything that you want, you can have that. It’s just the mindset that you have as you do it. So, like, excuse me. So, like, if you have just like, if you believe that, like, you’re never ever going to be able to sense your angel or understand what your angel is saying, that you’re never going to be able to feel God, that you’re never going to be able to, like, have a premonition or you’re not going to have intuition that’s clear about other people or about the world, that you’re never going to have that.

And you’re always going to have to go through this shaman. You’re always going to have to go through this guru or something. That is what I’m talking about. That is unhealthy, that is atavistic. We can use whatever systems we want. Whatever style of spiritual life works for you is fine. It’s. It’s that we have to understand that we are. We are becoming more spiritually aware and more aware objectively of a spiritual world. That’s what we have to understand in our hearts as we do what we do. Okay? So the other common delusion that emerges from atavism is the conflation of the material plane and the spiritual plane.

So in earlier periods, man lived in a world animated by spirit, walking side by side with angels and elementals as part of their everyday life. The material world was diminished and not at all defined. Today, the situation is reversed. Human beings have lost sight of the spiritual world of angels and elementals and become entrenched in the material world. Despite this reality, many people will default to atavistic perception and be unable to properly classify spiritual beings. So everything blends together. Sometimes for people, there’s there’s no ability to tell the difference between, say, an angel and an archangel, or an angel and an elemental.

Everything is an alien. There’s no real sense also of time. So people conflate the current phase of consciousness and development with periods of development that are 10, 20,000 years ago as being the same. So we have the same consciousness now as we did 50,000 years ago. We have the same kind of form. So there’s a lot of conflation that happens with atavism because the material world was not yet clear and delineated for us. We were not yet fully in it. And the spiritual world was totally overlaid on top of matter. So it was like one thing.

And so this is why there’s so much more of a problem with classifying spiritual beings. And some people don’t even know what an angel is or all these different things. It’s, it’s. It’s mashed up because we’ve actually. Human being. Human beings have never actually known them in that way. We only started classifying, being able to classify spiritual beings after the incarnation of Christ as though it’s like a hierarchy. Before that, we just were with them and we just knew what they were by quality in relation to us. We didn’t even think about being able to classify them, or we couldn’t even really sense time.

Time was all cyclical in the atavistic period. So time was all cycles. There wasn’t even the idea of a linear history the way that we think of it now that we’re fully materialized. So do you see how consciousness is so different and that everything is conflated in the atavistic state? Beings are conflated. There is no difference between. People would see an elemental, not know how to place it, not, not. Not to know what it is, because we’re so used to just experiencing that elemental, that kind of spiritual being based on our experience and based on nature itself, but not objectively, not in relation to all beings.

That only comes when we become fully individuated. Can we classify things properly? Right. So that’s a perspective issue. And it’s the same thing with spiritual planes. People have difficulty understanding what a spiritual plane is and how to relate to a spiritual plane. People are like, you know, thinking that the spiritual world is like matter vibrating faster or something. They think it’s the same quality, the same substrate just vibrating faster. Or they think it’s like a layer cake, a bunch of different numbers, different frequencies of the same substrate or something like that. So we’re having a really hard Time when we’re in an atavistic state to classify the spiritual world and spiritual beings.

Because in the atavistic period, all of that was conflated. We had no objective perspective. We were just in it. And there was no difference between the spiritual world and the material world, really. If anything, we were just trying to descend into matter and trying to triangulate everything into some kind of externalist perspective. So someone operating atavistically often becomes a spiritual materialist as they will seek to know the spiritual world through triangulating the material plane, triangulating with the material plane, which is something early humanity did as we were materializing. However, this too, creates delusions as a spiritual world operates apart from the physical and cannot be ascertained or experienced through materially rooted perception.

So we don’t even. The only way. This is the last thing I’ll say before we read Rudolf Steiner’s quote. The only way you’re ever going to be able to comment on the spiritual world or describe it or how to interact with it is through spiritual experience and lots of it. So you cannot describe the spiritual world in any meaningful way through materialist terms or explanations. You can kind of get this weird ghost of it. It’s like telling someone, you know, it’s like someone never seeing the ocean and hearing about scuba diving, never seeing water and just hearing about it, and then creating a bunch of mathematical equations about how you think the water works or how scuba diving works.

It means nothing. So this is actually also a form of. Of atavism as well, is trying to materialize every single concept. And we have to overcome that by understanding that if we’re talking about spirituality and spiritual life, we’re talking about an experience. We’re not talking about applying material qualities from natural science to spiritual things. It is experience. It is an experience. And it’s about internal mysteries that. That’s what it really is. Okay, so here is a final little reading from Rudolf Steiner. This is from GA56. And here he’s talking about the difference between clairvoyance and being an initiate.

So in Rudolf Steiner’s worldview, and he has a lot of phenomenal things to say about the atavistic clairvoyance. This lecture is rooted in what he had to say about it. In the anthroposophical perspective, there’s a big difference between having latent clairvoyant abilities, like latent psychic perception, and then somebody who is an initiate. So higher spiritual capacity is something that you earn, and when you earn it, you’re called an Initiate. An initiate had to earn every single perception they had. But somebody who is just a clairvoyant can be operating from this old atavistic perception. So it’s like both are interacting with a spiritual world, but from a completely different place.

Okay, so this is what Rudolf Steiner says. He who, without being clairvoyant himself, sees everything that secret science has to say, is an initiate. So you can be an initiate actually and not be clairvoyance. You can be an initiate and not have certain forms of perception. You can have certain forms of perception and not be an initiate, okay? But he who can enter into these worlds, which we call the invisible ones, is a clairvoyant. In ancient times, which are not so long behind us, there was a strict separation between clairvoyants and initiates in the secret schools.

There was a strict separation between clairvoyants and initiates in the secret schools. One would ascend to the knowledge of higher worlds as an initiate without being a clairvoyant, if one only use the mind in the right way. On the other hand, one could be a clairvoyant without being initiated to a particularly higher degree. It will become clear to you how this is meant. Think of two people, a very learned gentleman who knows all sorts of things that physics and physiology have to say about, about light and the phenomenon of light, but is so short sighted that he can hardly see 10cm away.

He does not see much, but he is initiated into the laws of the working of light. Thus one may be initiated into the super sensible world and see badly in it. When he says initiate here, if you’re initiated, he’s not talking about like somebody is at their local freemasonic lodge and getting an initiation from the grandmaster. He’s talking about initiation in the sense of the quality of your soul and your soul having developed to a certain point. That’s the real idea of an initiate and initiation. It is the actual level in which your subtle bodies are developed, your mind is developed, which you do through your own efforts.

So initiation is not, as Rudolf Steiner’s talking, it’s not something that like is a secret society or something, right? He’s talking about the actual development of the person being called an initiate. Another can see excellent. Another can see excellently in the outer sensuous world, but knows nothing too of what the Lord knows. The learned Lord knows. So people can be again having tons of psychic visions and knowings or whatever, but can’t explain them, doesn’t know the science of it. The initiate will know the science of it. And not because they’re taught, but because they’re at a place of knowing.

Thus there can also be clairvoyance before whose spiritual who. Thus there can also be clairvoyance before whose spiritual eyes the spiritual worlds lie open. They can see into the spiritual world, but have no science and no knowledge of it. For a long time, therefore, a distinction was made between the clairvoyant or the atavist and the initiate. In order to embrace the fullness of life, one often needed not one, but many people. Some were not. Some were not made clairvoyant in order to. To progress. Others were made spiritual eyes and ears. That which existed in secret science came about through communication and exchange of ideas between secret scientists and clairvoyants.

So there is the idea that. I think that. These types of individuals can work together in a sense. I think that’s what he means there. Okay. In our time, the strict separation between clairvoyance and initiates cannot be carried out at all today. It is necessary that everyone who has attained a certain degree of initiation. Should at least also be given the possibility of attaining a certain degree of clairvoyance. The reason for this is that our. In our time, it is not possible to establish complete trust between people. Today, everyone wants to know and see for himself.

That deep, devoted faith which former formerly prevailed from man to man made it possible that there was a special kind of clairvoyant from. From whom one heard what they perceived in the higher worlds. Others then systematically arranged what they had perceived. Today, a kind of harmony has been created in the development of the abilities of the initiate and the clairvoyant. Therefore, a third adeptship can today recede very much so. Yeah, that is from GA56. And that’s outlining the difference that somebody can actually be an initiate and have a certain level of knowledge and insight. And then someone can have a natural capacity to see into the spiritual world and get information and bring it back or whatever.

But they may not be able to describe it. They may not really be able to control it very well. And it’s not something that is coming from total consciousness. But especially in earlier periods, this may have worked out nicely. You may have like an oracle type that’s very atavistic. And then somebody who’s more scientific in their knowledge and could be okay. But moving forward today, the task for all people is to develop a higher form of clairvoyance. Rudolf Steiner would call this imagination. He would call this manas or spirit self. We’re required to release the old atavistic forms of being and living and perceiving and move into freedom and real spirituality as an independent sovereign soul.

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