Is Red Light Therapy the Future of Health?

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I think it’s important to reference this fascinating clip where Rogan had Mel Gibson on and he’s all wild eyed. Yes, people saw this because people want to know. And we don’t really think that Mel would want to lie about this and make up some random story to give people false hope. And he’s hesitant to say the answer. So we all love the clip. And he’s all like, I’ll tell you a good story. And then Rogan says, yeah, tell me. And then Sundays, I had three friends, always stage four cancer. A lot of stuff going on now they don’t have it at all anymore, what they do.

And he says, but so many people today, myself included, polluted at times. We don’t trust the medical field, we don’t trust the pharmaceutical field. What if somebody said, ah, this is another gimmick, you know, it’s just one of those things and there’s really nothing behind it. And how could something like this be so simple? I mean, you’ve answered that in part, but how could you simply answer that for that person out there? That’s saying it seems too easy. Mitochondria have light receptors in them called chromophores. They’re designed to pick up light and they produce these substances like cellular energy, ATP and reactive oxygen species.

These go and target the cancer cells like singlet oxygen and cause apoptosis, programmed cell death. Total resolution of dysapnia, which is shortness of breath, oxygen saturation in the blood above 97%, executive function restored, memory recall restored, digestive issues resolved, and emotional deficits resolved. And they were all the categories resulted in that single clinical study on 62 people. Notice how they are all related to oxygen. Shortness of breath, oxygen above 97%, cognitive function. Red light is correcting the way your body produces oxygen. Hey everyone. Welcome to another sit down with Michael Francis. Hope everybody is doing well.

All is always very good on this end, very blessed and as always, you know, I give all the credit, the praise, the honor and glory to God and to my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. I have a great guest on today. His name is Jonathan Otto. And you know, I am very into our health. Obviously I try to keep myself in good shape. You know, when I say obviously, it’s because my wife, my daughters, they’re all fitness experts. They’re all into nutrition and health and working out and all this. It’s their lifestyle. Fortunately, they got me into that also, I have to say, a little advantage.

When I was in prison, I kind of took care of myself pretty well, got into that mode when I got out too. And then the family helped me. And so I try to keep myself in good shape. I’m very into it. You know that I went to Costa Rica and had some stem cell. I did some research on it. A good friend of mine owns a big therapy center there. It was great. And recently, very recently in the past year, I would say my dear friend Chaz Palminteri talked to me a lot about red light therapy and the advantages of it, the health advantages.

Well, I’ve expanded my knowledge of this red light therapy recently and I’m bringing on a guest today who is very, very versed in it, very into it. He’s done so much research on it, so analysis. He actually now manufactures the red light therapy equipment. Look, I believe in researching anything that can help us with longevity, help us have a better quality of life, you know, and this is fairly easy. I mean, if this red light therapy is what people are claiming it is, and they have been great results, then this is something that everybody should really pay attention to.

If it could lengthen your life, if it can heal certain things, your cells, help you regenerate your cells, which is the key to longevity, the key to health, then you should really pay. So I, I’m looking forward to this conversation. I think you’re going to enjoy it. He actually brought me red light equipment or red light therapy equipment that we’re going to see right now. And please pay attention to this. Look, we got one life to live here on earth. We may as well try to do it as long as we can and in the best possible shape that we can be in.

So hopefully this will help you. I do this again because I’m into it and I like to inform my viewers and the people that, that I mentor and the people that watch me. And if I can give you a little adv in any area, then I try to do it. So with no further delay, my, my next guest, Jonathan Otto. So, Jonathan, let me, let me give you some background to this. About two years ago, very dear friend of mine, Chaz Palmitari, I was at his home and we were talking and he said, I want you to come downstairs.

I want to show you my workout room. So we go in there and he shows me around and then he gets me to his red light panel, I guess it is. And I said, chaz, what is that? And he started to explain to me how he’s so into red light therapy and how it’s helped him so much and aches and pains and all of this. And he’s very. I don’t want to use the word, but maybe I should say methodical about his health. Right. He even demonstrated how he stands in front of there and he gets naked and back and forth.

But he says, michael, he got naked in front of you? Oh, yeah. Well, no, he didn’t do that. He didn’t do that. But he said, the benefits have been amazing. And I thought, okay. And I said, it’s very interesting. Another good friend of mine, Tommy Mottola, who is head of Sony Music for 15 years. I know the name. Yeah, he’s in his late 70s. Looks terrific. Same thing. Red light therapy. Red light Therapy. Cut to just a couple of months later. It was late at night in my house and my wife comes in with a mask on.

I said, who the heck is that? And she’s got this Red Light therapy mask on. So I’m getting bombarded by red light therapy. So I start to look into it myself and I say, you know, this is really interesting. I’m pushing 75. I am, you know, interested in longevity. My dad passed away at 103. Wow. And so anything that makes sense to me, I investigate it and see if this is something that, you know, I should be interested in. So came across you, tremendous background, very, very incredible. And I said, you know what? I got to have Jonathan on the show.

We got to really talk about this because you, your research and studies on this have been second to none as far as I can see. So I let my audience in on all that background first, and now let’s get into it. I appreciate it. It’s really an honor, Michael. And I could see your heart for your family and your loved ones. And as an extension of that, your audience, which become like your family, people that love deeply, end up having these deep relationships with everyone that’s in touch with them. And so I know that you, you really care about getting the right information to the people that are listening to you, because we have the opportunity to make people’s lives better today.

And the immense amount of suffering that we. That we’ve seen, that you’ve seen in your life and in your loved ones mean that we have to do something about this. We have to use our voices, we have to put our. Ourselves together because it’s not happening for us. We’re not the sources that we once went to to help us get better are. Are not a part of that solution anymore, typically speaking across the board. So we need these platforms. We need conversations like the one that’s happening here. To make the world better for, you know, the people that are watching right now.

Well, no, Jonathan, you know, for the past 30 years, you know, I’ve been speaking all over the world, and really, you know, my whole deal is to encourage people. You know, I came from a past that was pretty rough and been able to turn my life around. And myself as an example. I try to encourage people, no matter what situation they’re in, there’s always a way to get out of it. And that extends not only spiritually but to physically, to our health. And so when I come across something like this, I like to share it with my viewers, and they appreciate it very much.

Oh, wow. You know, I talked at one time about stem cells, and I’m not really, you know, really well versed on it. I had it done myself. But then, you know, the red light therapy, from what I heard, seems to be even a better extension of that possibly. And so I want to share with my viewers, and that’s why I appreciate you coming aboard. Welcome. Thank you. Yeah. And so tell us, you know, give me the background, the advantages, you know, how you first, you know, really got into this, how you. You came across it and what you’ve discovered since.

And by the way, this is the tremendous. I didn’t know you were coming with this setup, but this is, this is great, you know, so now we’re going to put it in our room. And I have a. My future, so. Played baseball, professional baseball for five years. He was telling me about the advantages of this. He said, michael, after a game when I had aches and pains, he says, I stand in front of this for 15, 20 minutes and it worked wonders. And he, you know, he’s. What should I say? He’s a health freak. I mean, this guy works, wakes up at 4 in the morning and starts running a mile, and he’s into it.

My daughter, same thing. My wife, the same thing. And they’re all into fitness and nutrition. So I said, all right, there’s something to it. So they all look amazing, by the way. You’ve got a beautiful family both inside and out. But look, he’s right. And, and he, he regenerated. He. He regenerated and recovered because he was using the tools. And it’s often like that. The, the athletes are getting profound results because they’re in, they’re in the know. And that there is, there is a science to it. It’s not a gimmick. Even though, sure, there’s some aspects of that that exist always.

There’s always kind of A fake what, what’s interesting is that there are double blinded placebo trials, right? So but you think about how do you do a double blind placebo when it’s clearly this bright shining thing in your eyes. So how do you do a placebo? You have to give a fake light. So there’s a fake light group and a real red light therapy group that has the right wavelength and the right depth of penetration, the right power. The sham groups, it’s called a sham, they almost net well in every case I’ve ever read. Never got better, never had improvement.

So it’s not a placebo. The red light group, like Lancet Oncology, this was published on prostate cancer, specifically photobiomodulation. Red light therapy over the prostate equated to a 360% increase in the ability to put prostate cancer in remission. So 413 men, 10 control centers, 49% go into remission. In the red light group, 13.5% of the control group that didn’t take red light. It’s a huge difference. 360, almost 400%. And then the, the red light group, 6% get surgery. The non red light group get 30% get surgery. So that’s just one example, something that most men past age, say 30, 40, start wondering and worrying about their prostate.

And same is true with women with breast cancer. We’re seeing profound results with, with breast cancer. You know, even with triple negative and non triple negative breast cancer. In, in, in studies showing there’s one where four different wavelengths of red light were tested. 615, 630, 660 and 730. So these are like right now, like with this, for example, you’re seeing red and then you’re seeing blue and then you’re seeing which, which. There’s some myths around blue light. People think it’s universally bad. That’s definitely not true. That were true, rainbows would be a problem. God maybe made some weird mistakes with making a rainbow with blue light in its sun.

I don’t think so. Yeah, yeah, I know, right? Blue, blue lots light during the day with the sun. It’s a, it’s about the flickering. So what’s happening with the phones? We’ve got high flicker rates and then the blue light then gets the bad rap. But then the combination of blue light in the evening when you’re not supposed to have blue light with the high flicker rate means that it’s, it’s bad. And so blue light, blue light blockers in the evening makes sense. That’s Fine, but during the day, not a good idea because you’re meant for blue light during the day anyway.

But this is like 660 is the deep red light there. Of the four different wavelengths that they tested, it was 660 and only 660. That made the breast tumor proliferation. The growth of it dropped by 40% in 24 hours. Now disclaimer, that’s in a petri dish, meaning that’s out of the human body. There’s human cell lines. So it’s a fascinating study. Wow. What percentage was that? It was a 40% drop in 24 hours. So they, they, they put the red light over the tumor cells and then 24 hours later observed and saw a 40% drop in the growth.

It works that fast though? Yeah. In that case, in humans, that’s an in vitro study. The Lancet Oncology study was a longer study. It was like a two year period. There is a group and there are certain conditions that I’ve studied in humans that are very fast acting. One was with cutaneous B cell lymphoma. It’s a pilot study that was published in 2006 on PubMed. So there’s, it’s a pilot study, which means there’s three people in it. It’s on PubMed. Right. So this is, this is not my, my, my back, my backyard, this is my basement, my grandma and me working hard study.

Right? This is this full fledged study. Okay. There’s three people in it. One of them gets better after one session. The other two get better after two sessions. All have complete recovery within one week. That’s spontaneous B cell and B cell lymphoma that was using substance. It’s specifically not just red light therapy. It was called photodynamic therapy. They used a substance called amino luvolinic acid. The equivalent that people know about is methylene blue. And they take that beforehand, or in this case even use it topically, then put the red light over. In the case of internal ingestion with methylene blue, typically 30 minutes later you take it, then 30 minutes later the red light then comes in because now you’ve turned the cells hypersensitive to light.

That’s why it’s a photo sensitizer. You’re making photo is light sensitive. You’re making your cells to be even more light sensitive than what they already are. Now this, then the light comes in, produces more cellular energy. ATP, adenosine triphosphate, through the mitochondria. Mitochondria have light receptors in them called chromophores. They’ve designed to pick up light. Then they produce these substances like cellular energy ATP and reactive oxygen species. These go and target the cancer cells like singlet oxygen and cause apoptosis, programmed cell death. Imagine putting these on the table in front of your wife. She’s going to look at them and say, wow.

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That would be an occlusion time, the time where there is no light. And that’s when most of the work actually happens. Wow. So Jonathan, let me ask you this. I think there’s probably not a person watching us right now that in some way shape or form family, friend, whatever themselves hasn’t been touched by cancer. I know my whole family, a lot of my family members were devastated. Just lost my father in law a few months ago to cancer. I’m really sorry. Thank you. Thank you. You know, tell us in two ways. Number one, as a possible preventive measure using red light surgery, red light therapy for prevention of cancer at whatever age or it might be number one.

And then number two, if you have cancer, how could this be effective in helping you? Yeah, no, thank you. Michael. Look, this is, it’s devastating. And we were talking off camera and I remember seeing you shocked at the rates, but it, it resembles what you’ve seen. Men 1 in 2, which is 50% are getting cancer today during their lifetime. So I’m not saying right now one in two men have cancer. I’m saying one in two men during their lifetime will get cancer. So 50% of men during their lifetime at some point are going to get cancer.

Whether it be prostate cancer, whatever form. Yeah, hopefully. Prostate is usually the best cure rate with prostate cancer, but any form of cancer. Exactly. Skin cancer or, or, or brain cancer. So. Well, let me stop here, John. Yeah. 1996, I had just come home from prison, honestly, and I went in my wife, I never even thought of this. I’m not a sun worshiper. Yeah, right. At all. Never thought of this. But I had a little blemish or something. She said, well you go to the, you know, skin doctor. So I go and he sees a little lesion on me and he said, Michael, I don’t think it’s anything but let me just tell you.

I said, doc, take it off. I come back, it was a melanoma. Melanoma. Who would have thought? Had she not told me, I would have never went to the doctor. And that’s a very, very fast moving cancer. So we had it removed and I’m fine, no problem. But even myself was, was touched by that and I never would have expected it, you know, so I mean you never know. And so many people that I know, gosh, family members, friends, like I said, father in law, have been touched by it. So. Anyway, continue. Yeah, no, thank you.

It’s a real, it’s a real example of the fact that not something that was in your control, to your knowledge at least not something that you really did a lot to deserve or anything to deserve, you know, you being punished by God or you drug and alcohol abuse or these are just happening to people. Right. And so there’s, there’s a lot of subconscious beliefs and people getting really confused or feeling in some ways that there, there are interesting narratives that people maybe feel in some ways there’s some kind of punishment or something. But the reality is it’s just happening to people because of a toxic overload in our environment.

So then it becomes more and more, more and more relevant for people to then get solutions and to be using them in preventive, sensitive ways. And you’re using a lot of logic. And red light is one of many tools and so fasting would be another tool. And earth grounding and pulse electromagnetic field, which PEMF people refer to as pemf and these are becoming more commonly used. They’re also very effective for helping people with cancer in clinical studies as well as helping to generate new healthy stem cells and helping those stem cells mature, which red light is proven to do.

So it’s very interesting that when you say stem cell therapy, you think about somebody just getting some stem cells and putting them in you, right? But when I say stem cell therapy, we’re really, shouldn’t we be talking about just generating your own, at least to be the kind of general thing that everyone does, which you’re already going to do. And you particularly generate them while you’re sleeping. But how do you generate more? And that’s things that you’re doing, which is why you look so great at your age. Exercise, eating healthy, eating within correct windows, not eating late at night and then eating first thing early in the morning.

And so you got no real time to let your body regenerate. So you just, you know, you, whether that’s intermittent fasting, I’m not saying everyone needs to do that, but you just got, you’re letting your body digest because it’s either healing or digesting. It can’t do both at once. So you just, you, you understand that you’re, you’re making sure you, you’re resting your body and coming deeper into red light because it’s such a powerful tool and one that’s so effective. And I’ve just mentioned some cases. I think it’s important to reference this fascinating clip that it was about a year ago now where Rogan had Mel Gibson on Yes.

And he’s all wild eyed. I saw that. Yes, yep. And then people saw this because people want to know and we don’t really think that Mel would want to lie about this and make up some random story to give people false hope. We don’t. And he’s hesitant to say the answer. So we all love the clip. And he’s all, I’ll tell you a good story. And then Rogui says, yeah, tell me. And then Sundays, I had three friends, always stage four cancer. They had a lot of stuff going on and now they don’t have it at all anymore, what they do.

And he says, ah. He almost didn’t want to say it. Yeah. If you remember. Yeah, yeah. He’s hesitant. He’s like, yeah, they did a lot of stuff. They did, they did, they did the stuff. And then he, and then, and then Joe says, I pushed him a little bit. And he says, yeah, yeah. He says, yeah, so these are anti parasitics. Right. And then he says, and they are drinking this blue stuff, methylene blue. And then he says they were drinking another thing, which he refers to hydroxine. What I could tell you about that was. I could say that the acronym because that one is the one that I can’t say it would be Mary, Mary, Sam.

And so they’re letters. So just use, don’t use the names but use the letters. Right. Mary, Mary, Sam. Or the other one is Charlie, Derek, Sam for the same thing. And anyway, that will tell you what that is. And so they were all doing that. They were all drinking that, which is very easy, cost nothing. It’s very censored. So just being just I’m protecting right guys and in the chat and the comments below, that’s where people need to engage because there’s a lot of people that are in the know, there’s millions of people doing this. So there’ll be people writing and explaining what I’m saying.

So I’m not saying this to be dramatic, right. But the other one, this methylene blue one, Methylene blue has to be activated by red light, particularly that peak of the red 660 is what activates methylene blue. So it doesn’t, it doesn’t really work without that. It’s a, it’s a textile dye. So it has some, it has a bit of downsides and that’s why there’s this debate over it. But in terms of, for cancer, it is clearing out these senescent cells, the circulating tumor cells. It, it’s so heavily proven, you use ChatGPT and say what’s the best photosensitizer for cancer studies with red light therapy, hands down, methylene blue.

And it’ll talk about 99 of these types of tumors getting, putting the remission using that. And it has a lesser effect on these types of tumors, but still very effective. And so what I’m saying is that people just regularly doing, for example, red line therapy. I’m not going to make a claim and say, oh, you can reverse cancer, you can, you can prevent cancer. I’m not going to make a claim, but I am going to say that what you’re doing is you’re interfacing with your cells in the regions of your body that need help by getting near infrared, which is all the way up to 1100 nanometers, you’re interfacing with the bones and the deepest parts of the organs, including the brain, the liver, little kidneys, et cetera, the heart.

And you’re interfacing and red at, you know, the 600, 670. The eyes, you’re interfacing with all of these organs and you’re generating, you’re causing those organs to help Them to make stem cells, which is called proliferation. And you’re causing them to help help them mature, which is called differentiation. And that is the real issue. So like, I might not have a prostate, I might not have prostate cancer, but I have a prostate. I might not have breast cancer, but I have breasts. And so what you’re doing is you’re just interfacing with the body, helping your body produce normal, healthy cells and helping those cells mature.

And you’re help rid of the bad cells by causing apoptosis. And so it’s a turnover. If you want to have a healthy body, you got to turn over the bad cells and you got to create new good cells continually. And one thing I did learn with stem cell therapy is that the best stem cells are the, the ones you produce yourself, your own stem cells. Because they even had told me at that time, you know, your kids should come down here, we’ll extract their cells, and if they ever need stem cells in the future, we’ll be injecting them with their own cells.

So this stimulates that stain stem cell production, right? Correct, correct. And it’s heavily proven to do so. Like, I wouldn’t just say this because it’s something that I, I think, I think of theoretically. Both red light therapy and pulse electromagnetic field therapy are heavily proven to both cause the proliferation, which is the genesis and creation of stem cells and mitochondria within the stem cells and differentiate them, which means mature them into normal, healthy cells. Which is the other part of the equation that people that are doing stem cell therapy never get told, or practically never get told.

Because, you know, my dad, I had about $30,000 worth of stem cells on about four different injections for his knees over the course of a few years. And it was always really discouraging when he was, I saw him limping again and I was like, oh, dad, just, you know, wait the four months. Because it takes four months for a stem cell mature. And like, oh, dad, don’t worry, it could be in four months. I think it’s going to turn the corner. And how’s it going? He hesitates because I was the one that spent the money he has.

I’m sorry, it’s still the same. Yeah, well, thanks for telling me. I’m not going to stop, dad. And so seeing red light therapy change his life and give him like, what, what cost a couple hundred dollars outperformed thirty thousand dollars. I can’t even make this stuff up. And how long did that, did he have that red light there? Yeah. So for him he was only maybe two weeks in when he. I will tell you. First he said, oh, sorry, John, it didn’t work. And I said, dad, you’re not using it enough. And I said, put it in the car with you.

And then, because I knew he was driving to my sister’s place to build a house with her and which is happening right now. Still, still work on that project, you know, the longer projects. Right. And then. And then within, within two weeks at that point, then he said, I’m not feeling any pain in either knee right now. This. Is this gonna last? And as yet, well, one thing I’m gonna do, Jonathan, I have, I’m gonna test it out. I have. I’ve had neck pain in this side, my wife, for I don’t know how long now. The stem cell didn’t really help, so I’m gonna be using that pad that you have and put it on me.

Yeah, definitely. Awesome. Yeah. And then. And something like this, like having typically about 3 inches away, 15 minutes a day, 20 minutes twice a week. You could resemble sunrise, sunset, you know, 20 minutes, 30 minutes at the start of the day and at the end of the day, if you, if you have the time available. There’s a Birmingham University study that showed one minute of exposure over the course of five days. It was a rat study, but one minute, one minute, one minute. And it was a spinal injury, spinal cord injury study. So they severed the spinal cords of the rats.

And, and it’s kind of, it’s obviously cruel, but they then irradiated with light, and they showed that even the one minute over five days increased cell viability by 45% and was regenerative of the spine and neuroprotective. So they didn’t study it in rats because they wanted to help rats. They studied it in rats because they want to help humans. And so they did prove that small amounts of time, UCL University found three minutes, eyes open in the morning, looking directly into light, equated to 17% improvement in eyesight immediately within the same 24 hour period. And that benefit lasted a week, which it would last a lot longer if people did more than three minutes once, like daily or a few times a week would stack the improvement and make the improvement last.

So it is a minimal output of time for Mac for an amazing result. Some of the studies on both PMF and Redline go as far as six months where they’ll complete a treatment, and then six months later, their treatment will be either largely holding or completely holding as it was. But then after that Point, then you’ll have a drop off because you are meant for. Not just, you know, a few times in the year, but more like a few times a week, if you can. So let me. Is there any, any kind of side effects that can come from this at all? Is there any.

There’s always a downside, you feel. I know there is. There is typically a downside with things in life. And it’s interesting that with God there’s typically not the. That’s true. Yeah. It’s like the most amazing things that came to us in life were the most pleasure filled. I mean, tell me the most beautiful thing that came into your life. I bet you the most beautiful thing was in this room a moment ago. Absolutely. Sitting right there and very quietly. And then. And with you two together, you created something that was, you know, potentially one of, for my children, one of the best things that ever happened to me.

Yes, absolutely. Was it painful to create that job? Not for me, actually. Actually quite pleasant. Exactly. And so, like, it’s interesting, Garden of Eden translates garden of pleasure. And. And then you see, there’s light, there’s this full body exposure. Right. So they were naked and they were not ashamed, it says. Right? Yeah. They’ve got their feet on the earth, they’ve got the magnetic field of the earth they’re in. And the warmth is pleasure. I do think it symbolizes God’s love. Right. In the sense that why do you feel the warmth of the sun or the cool breeze when you’re hot? And these are all signatures in nature of giving us the profound knowledge that we are loved and that we’re cherished by our creator.

As distant as for some people, you may feel you’re getting a heart beat and a breath that’s coming to you voluntarily by some source unknown to you. And that to me, like these things. Then explain to. To give a short answer to that long ideological concept there. But would be that you, of the 100 million people that have been clinically studied on red light therapy, there has been no adverse. There’s been no significant adverse reactions. Yeah. So can you do too much of it? Yes. Yes, you can. Because. Because there is an amount that. Imagine if you’re like catching a ball, right? So I’ve got two hands, and if you throw me two balls, now I’ve caught them, you throw more and now I’m gonna get hurt at this point.

But you wouldn’t necessarily hurt yourself per se, but by doing too much quote unquote, you are. You don’t have anywhere for that to dock because your body has absorbed the maximum that it can. Some argue that there’s diminishing returns. For me, I’ve seen studies like the European Society of Medicine which was specifically on long Covid. It had 62 people in the study. It was 100% effective in 62 people for acute symptomatic recovery after two 64 to 84 minute long sessions. In all 62 people that was for acute. But then that doesn’t mean that people had complete resolution of symptoms.

That still meant that their quality of life is diminished. They completed four, four sessions within one week. 60 of them had complete recovery recovery of all symptoms. The other two got better the following weeks, but off the four original sessions within the single week. And what that answers for you is the fact that there are longer sessions for acute conditions and, and viral infections and other signs of toxicity that by doing them over all the organs because it was specifically whole organ photobiomodulation. Photo light bio life modulation to change the process of life through light is what that word means, which is the medical name for, for red light therapy of which even when, when the Pope had recovery by the way, from, from not being able to walk and then could get out of his wheelchair because of red light therapy, he actually referenced the medical name photobiomodulation and attributed that free success.

So he used it correctly when he said that. So these longer sessions are very effective. So there is a strong case for the like 84 minute up to 84 minute long sessions. And the resolution was total resolution of dyspnea, which is shortness of breath, oxygen saturation in the blood above 97%, executive function restored, memory recall restored, digestive issues resolved and emotional deficits resolved. And they were all the categories resolved in that single clinical study on 62 people. Notice how they’re all related to oxygen. Shortness of breath, oxygen above 97, cognitive function. Red light is correcting the way your body produces oxygen.

It’s, it’s helping activate an enzyme through the mitochondria called cytochrome C oxidase. And this process is critical for cellular respiration. And it’s a critical step that needs to happen in the electron transport chain. So you’re, you’re transferring electrons through the body and then if you can’t activate these processes, then your cells can’t breathe. The reason why we’re breathing so much is because our cells need to breathe. And us breathing more doesn’t correct the issue because it’s not just a absorb more through breath, it’s activate through Light so your cells can breathe. And that’s the reason why we’re designed biologic biologically for light so we can get the most amount of oxygen so our cells can breathe.

And that’s when we’re then solving different issues than improving eyesight. It’s because of, it’s because of oxygen production. We’re solving even issues with erectile dysfunction or with cancer, which is, they’re all related to oxygen without you realizing because you have to think about the fact that you need to eat food x amount, you need to drink water x amount, and then you need to breathe x amount. Tell me the ratios there, which is the one thing that we’ve both been doing. Constantly breathing. Yeah. And without it we’re dead. And you’re kind of like alive but not really alive when you don’t have the adequate oxygen because your cells aren’t able to produce it.

So anyway, that’s a kind of an answer to the, these longer sessions that are effective and biologically, look at it, sunrise, sunset, it’s about, you know, 30, 45 minutes or so each side of the day. So there’s a strong case for that. We know Jonathan being exposed on social media as often as I am. You know, a lot of people say, oh, Michael, you look great for your age. I’ve been accused of taking Botox and all this kind of stuff. And what, what is your secret? I said, well, listen, I never tried to abuse my body.

I never smoked, I never drank to excess, I never got obese, so, and possibly I have good genes because my father lasted very long. But the secret of life is really generating good healthy cells. Isn’t that really what it’s all about? You got it. And so the medical science, or the science behind this is just to continuously generate new healthy cells and to keep them functioning properly. And that’s what, if you break it down and simplify it. That’s what this is all about. Yeah. And it’s really easy because you just stand in front of it, you know, 15 minutes in the morning like I described 15 minutes at night.

And the, the health benefits are numerous. I mean, so true, really so true. And, and, and Some people like 15 minutes both sides of the day is, is, is a lot. And, and that is for the, for the avid enthusiast that just can’t see. They’re kind of like they’re wanting to sync their bodies with the sun or anything like that. Right. But I could show you the thyroid studies which. 20 minutes twice a week, that’s it. And then, and then these Are like chronic autoimmune thyroiditis patients. They’ve got an autoimmune condition. 5 weeks, 20 minutes twice a week, which is a total of 10 sessions, 9 month follow up.

47 are completely off levothyroxine. They’re not taking thyroid drugs anymore because their thyroid is naturally producing thyroid hormones. So that’s an example of only 20 minutes twice a week. Solved the problem. There’s another study on enlarged thyroid for Hashimoto’s which was 98 women. One woman didn’t complete. So it was 97 that completed. 96% achieved normal thyroid size after a three week treatment which was a year follow up. But the treatment only happened over three weeks and it was only twice a week of the application of 820 nanometer light over the thyroid for it was only minutes.

Which is so surprising that this thyroid arguably there’s not. No one’s talking about this. What if the thyroid is primarily being affected by the negative lights that are around like these high flicker rate LEDs that are in the homes that are causing the damage of the thyroid and then the exact opposite, often the thing that’s causing it, then the antithesis of that is the solution in this case to have light over the thyroid. Light can now the thyroid can produce normal thyroid hormones. The enlarged thyroid, which is a sign of inflammation, which is a sign of the body trying to heal itself, that reverses.

I mean it’s profound. There was one other study on Hashimoto’s that is really profound for me which was two groups, one with iron, selenium and vitamin D3, which is a hormone by the way, and the other group with vitamin D3, selenium, iron and red light. The group, and this is Hashimoto’s, the group with red light. 70 times 70 times, 70 times the benefit in achieving thyroid hormone balance, balancing T3, T4 levels of the thyroid hormones and 15 times greater at reducing medication needs. So anyone that’s doing supplements, they, they need to activate their supplements with red light.

That’s the big takeaway. So in other words, just taking a normal supplement, if you activate it with it’s going to be a lot more effective. Correct. And beneficial. Correct. I wonder. Yeah. My daughter had thyroid cancer. Yeah. I was going to mention. Really? Yeah. Been four years. Yeah, four years. She’s young, she’s in her early 30s. Yeah. Wow. Had it 10 years ago. The big scare. Yeah. But paying it up a lot. Yes. I’m wondering at this material. Good. That’s what I was. You beat me to that yeah, yeah, that’s. That’s awesome. Yes. I’ll let you either ask that or I, I can launch in from that if you like.

Whichever you prefer. Yeah, let me. You know, Jonathan, my daughter, in her late 20s, early 30s, developed thyroid cancer. And she’s been free now, I think, going. I think it’s five years, right, babe? It’s five years now. So she passed that five year mark. But could this still be beneficial to her? I would imagine, yeah. And so of course I’ll give like a nice little disclaimer. Not medical advice, educational purposes only. In fact, entertainment purposes. Let’s entertain ourselves. And so what could I say, based on clinical data, what do we see? Right, so everything I just mentioned about the thyroid are all signs of abnormal thyroid function.

And what do you think happens when all these toxins, bromine, halogens, fluoride, are attacking the thyroid gluten with molecular mimicry. So we’re eating like this hybridized wheat that went through a process called chemical mutagenesis where the, it’s not recognized by the body and it’s now attacking the thyroid because of it’s mimicking thyroid, certain aspects that interface with the thyroid. Now, now we’ve got this issue. How do we help get the toxins out of the thyroid? And the answer is cellular energy. We need to give the thyroid cells energy. And so all the organ cells have mitochondria.

Your red blood cells don’t have mitochondria. Bone cells have M. M cells have mitochondria. When light absorbs through the light receptors in the mitochondria called chromophores, then they’re going to produce cellular energy. When they have cellular energy, they use it immediately and store it like a battery. Now they can go and guess what they do. And the studies that I just mentioned prove this. And they say this specifically. They go and cause the body to remove, in this case the thyroid, to remove the bromine, the halogens, the fluoride. Those are the toxins that are driving the issues.

And then the disruption, the chemicals and the toxins that are attacking the thyroid, which is the most sensitive gland in the body. And women have the most sensitive of all. And there is that interesting verse in the Bible says, you know, it basically ensures, like, take care of the woman, for she is the weaker vessel. And in this case, this would be an example of that. The thyroid in women. Ten women have a thyroid issue for every one man, really. So in that case, it’s more sensitive, but then greater sensitivity. Like, I mean, I’m Away from home right now, who do you think? Like when my wife.

My boys aren’t breaking down because they’re with their mum. And, but if, and they love me dearly and they do break down with me gone too. And I try to be with them as much as humanly possible. I’m on a plane tomorrow, even though I’m going to be with them only four days and then back on the plane, but I’ll be with them and, and once I get back, I’ll be very present with them. But they, the, the, the heightened emotional sensitivity and the, and the beauty of a woman in this case gives so much connection.

That means that my boys are inseparable from their mother and they love her so dearly. And so anyway, my point there is that verse in the Bible to me is really denoting the immense beauty that comes with that sensitivity and that depth of emotional connectivity. So anyway, the thyroid gland is this example of such a sensitive gland. And when it’s attacked by chemicals, then it’s going to destroy, disrupt everything. And this is going to then drive so many issues with depression, anxiety, even schizophrenia. You’ll see that a lot of regulation women and, and men are going to gain weight and they’re not going to be able to control it.

And when we then put light in, we’re causing the, the thyroid to be able to deal with this issue through cellular energy. And it will go and detoxify these toxins, cause the thyroid to produce hormones naturally reduce the inflammation and disrupt and, and, and change that disruptive environment. The toxins are actually impeding the cells from making normal conversions. This is why cancer is what it is. And notice that. What’s the, what’s all the star signs, right? The Chinese, you know, what’s the, what’s the one that. The crab. What’s it called, anyone? The crab. No, keep going.

It’s what, it’s the condition that we’re talking about right now. The crab, it grows and doesn’t stop growing. Oh, regeneration. No, I, I, I, I, I, I hate playing the game. Guess what’s in the teacher’s head. My, my apologies. I, Cancer. Oh, oh, okay, yeah, I get it. No, exactly. I’m not, I’m not either. Right. Horoscopes. No, no, exactly. Oh, that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right. Cancer. Sorry about that. That was, that was kind of lame on my part. No, it wasn’t. No, yeah, no, look, it’s, it’s, it’s. I like to avoid guessing what’s in the teacher’s head because who can Guess so.

Cancer is, is a star sign. It says nothing about the condition. It’s a crab that grows and doesn’t stop growing. So when you say the word cancer, you’re just saying, oh, that thing that grows and starts to stop growing. It’s not descriptive. Yeah. It’s not prescriptive. It’s not a diagnosis. It’s an observation of something that’s happening. And why is that happening? Because there’s an, there’s an impediment. There’s something stopping normal cell growth. And it’s a block. And when you have that block, then a normal cell hasn’t got what it needs. And it’s saying, okay, I’m ready, mommy, I’m ready, daddy, I’m going to become a doctor when I grow up.

But he can’t make it to the a normal healthy cell. He’s not becoming a normal thyroid cell because there’s toxins that are impeding the normal function of the cell cells. So if you have something, some lump or bump in the thyroid, in the heart, in, in the kidneys, in the liver, in the bones, there is an, there is some toxins. This is a general concept. And it, but it works. When you, when you see this in practice and you see clinically and we see thousands of people get results on what we’re talking about, then they’re toxins that are stopping that proper conversion.

And so now a cell, a stem cell, doesn’t become a normal healthy cell. It’s stuck in a twilight zone. Guess what that’s called a cancer ste. And, and guess, guess what Chemotherapy does it. It, it wipes out tumor cells, but not cancer stem cells, and it strengthens them. And that’s proven in mainstream literature. So what we’re doing is we’re helping fuel the body with what it needs so these cells can make proper conversions. And fascinatingly, a cancer stem cell can actually turn back into a normal healthy cell. I was just going to ask you that. So if you, if you have a cancer cell in you and you.

It changes, it can change that cell or reverse it, or it could be the reason why we see these remission rates in these studies. That could be the reason. It could be also that which this is the main hypothesized or proven reason is that it causes apoptosis of the cancer cells. But if you’re a cancer stem cell, get, you are lacking. You’re like a one cell amoeba. You don’t have advanced abilities yet. You haven’t developed them. And guess what? One of those things is apoptosis, the ability to program your own cell death. They can’t even do that.

So they, they can’t shut down and die because they don’t have that ability yet. So if a cell gets what it needs, in this case a cancer stem cell, then it can activate its own apoptosis and it dies. So they actually need intelligence, they need oxygen, they need, they need fuel to then fulfill what they need, which could be the death or it could be something called redifferentiation where it converts into a normal healthy cell. And that is being he by medical groups and it’s proven as a mechanism for how cancer can be reversed. You know, John, you’ve given a lot of background on this in your, in your research, but so many people today, myself included, at times we’re just, we don’t trust the medical field, we don’t trust the pharmaceutical field.

I should say, what if somebody said, ah, this is another gimmick, you know, it’s just one of those things and there’s really nothing behind it. And how could something like this, this be so simple? I mean, you’ve answered that in part, but how could you simply answer that for that person out there that’s saying it seems too easy. You know, we’ve got all these lights all of a sudden, out of nowhere, I’m just standing in front of it and it’s going to be a health benefit to me. You know, how could you. What would you say to that person? Because they’re going to be out there and they’re going to say it’s, it’s too easy, doesn’t make sense.

You mean I have cancer and. Or I can prevent cancer by standing in front of a red light. Red light, you know, a blue light. It doesn’t make sense to me. Yeah, ex. Look, it’s a great question and it’s part of the reason why I became knowledgeable on the subject was because I had that same skepticism. And I think that people should have it. And I am skeptical of everything that I’m saying even now, because it’s you. You play all out like this was. This is something that was written about the work that I’d done. This was by Dr.

Antonio Jimenez, the chief medical officer for the Hope for Cancer Treatment Centers. And he really spoke very highly of you. Yeah, thank you. Thank you for saying that. It’s like he says, Jonathan has been both a dear friend and esteemed colleague for nearly a decade. It’s actually slightly over a decade. His relentless pursuit of truth from, you know, he references the work I did with the Truth About Cancer movement as a producer to his current status as a formidable half health advocate. To his current status as a formidable health advocate is nothing short of inspirational. He says that the research is groundbreaking and unwavering dedication to those battling cancer make this book a potential lifesaver.

And then he says, for anyone touched by cancer or seeking to prevent it, this book isn’t just recommended, it’s essential, which is a huge thing to say. So my point is that if you’re really skeptical about things that causes you to find answers. So one, my answer is don’t believe me, don’t believe anyone. Be skeptical, but let your skepticism be fueled by answers. Your skepticism isn’t meant to just be in an echo chamber and you looking in the mirror and saying, ah, good one, good point you made and just, you know, fluffing yourself up by how many holes you can poke in something like, somebody built this, you know, beautiful home that you’re in and, and a lot of people and everything was laid out.

It’d be easy for me to come in with a bulldozer and smash the whole thing down. It would take no talent at all, right? Maybe a little bit to operate the machinery if I didn’t care for my life. But if I didn’t care for my life, I could do it with, with drunk and, and, which I don’t do. But anyway, it’s a lot to actually build a house and a lot to actually answer questions. So for the skeptical person, do your own research. Put into Google ChatGPT, Google Scholar, and look for medical references, not anecdotal, even though anecdotal is really important.

I could share with you a bunch of really cool anecdotes that resemble and match the clinical studies. But then look at what they say about, about thyroid function, eyesight, heart conditions, heart muscle scarring, kidney function, and you know, acne, rosacea, psoriasis. How many conditions do I need to list? And, and think. If you’re skeptical, think about you or a loved one that may be suffering with one of these. And do you, do you really only want to fill your mind with skepticism or do you want an answer? It may not be red light may be the thing you’re looking for, it might be something else.

But the point is find an answer to the thing that you’re pressing against. Don’t be in the echo chamber of your own naysaying spirit, because that is mediocrity. It’s not excellence. If it’s great questions, great answers, which Might not be. You might not prove out that therapy, but you may end up finding the therapy that is best for you. But don’t believe. Just like you did when you said that you came out of the mob. Like, if I got myself into this, I can get myself out of it. And there’s a belief that underpins this, which.

There’s a way here. And to me, there can be theological underpinnings like that God is merciful and that forgiveness is always accessible and that. That the body is merciful to us. And that if I was once well, or even if I was never well, I could reinstate the wellness that I once had or get that which was never there because I was designed for it, and I was designed for excellence, and my body was supposed to work. And I believe that this is essential. So those are the underpinning beliefs, the subconscious beliefs that mean that people pursue something or not.

Well, that’s a great answer. And, you know, the other thing I thought about here, John, is that, you know, medical treatment is very expensive. Yeah. You know, even all these supplements and everything else that you buy, very, very expensive. But this here, I mean, this therapy, you. You get it once and you can. Your whole family can benefit from it. Really? Yeah. And, you know, I always announce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. You know, so to me, it’s. Listen, you know, I mentioned this, too. My daughter was using, I think, blue light for her acne.

Me. And it cleared it up. Wow. Yeah. My youngest daughter. Yeah. You know, I just thought of that, actually. Oh, that’s awesome. Yeah. And I was saying, what are you doing? Oh, dad, this is what. One of her doctors actually recommended that for her, and it really worked. Wow. Yeah, she had it pretty bad. It was good for her. So, you know, we have some evidence in our own household here about that. And what did that do for our confidence? Oh, gosh. You know. You know, for a young girl, maybe for a young boy, but, yeah, it was.

It was tremendous for her. Wow. And then that would have then avoided Accutane, which. Yeah. Which you’re concerned with. Accutane. Yeah. There are side effects. Exactly. Yeah. You just destroy your liver function over time. And like a young teenage girl or boy is going to say, yeah, sure, right now, this is my billboard. This determines whether I feel confident and feel like I have a future when it comes to the opposite sex or whatever, or just feeling confident with my peers. I’m going to trade off on this. And, you know, that’s the Faustian bargain. But there’s Always a better way and, and she found a better way.

So it’s, it’s like there’s something that Botox is a good example as well. Look is toxic, so why not get your body and, and then the, the outcome down the line is going to be worse off and so cause the skin to regenerate. So what we’re doing is even though it may be like it’s called looks maxing or you like. Yeah, I recently heard about that looks maxing. Oh great thing is bones and you know, crazy. Oh yeah, exactly. Crazy. That formal looks maxing is not good. But like the looks maxing, that might be just like using red light for cosmetics.

That’s great because you’re now, you’re now stopping something that may have caused cancer and so could you have to then give people the knowledge on that, otherwise they, they may make that wrong choice. And that’s why. Yeah. Let’s talk about looks. Let’s talk about, you know, I’m, I’m 40 at February, right. So I, I, I’m like a, you know, turn 40 in February. So I, I had a lot of health conditions as a child and I had to quit full time work in my early 20s because I was so sick. Chronic fatigue syndrome, Lyme disease, Epstein Barr, cytomegalovirus, chronic boils breaking out of my body, Ross river fever, glandular fever, chronic nausea, chronic dehydration.

My future was in, was in trouble. Red light was one of the tools. There were several tools that I used and like parasite cleansing, heavy metal detoxification through binders, you know, the therapies that are available to gluten free, getting off gluten, specifically wheat. These are things that change my life forever. Right? So I, you know, we’ve, we’ve got to give people tools so that they can have the life that they want and feel good and look good. Jonathan, if any of my viewers or people that I speak to would be interested in this, do you offer these products? Yeah, absolutely.

And I, I’m really excited to, to make that available to people. And that’s why it’s exciting when, because you could educate all you like about it and you could learn and know about all the things that red light does for you. And then people may have a million questions like does it work for this? Does it work for this? And there is, there is one really great answer is to try it because you only know if you, if you try. I remember a 92 year old Joanne, macular degeneration, couldn’t see out of the peripherals of her eyes at all.

Couldn’t. Couldn’t read. Couldn’t she watch the TV just to see some blurry images? But seeing a woman like that regain her eyesight and I, I’m not going to make a claim and say that will happen for everyone. Rose. So touching and so beautiful, though, and to have nerve pain in her feet go away. And, and that’s a sector of the population that a lot of people just feel like, oh, they, you know, they’re old. Just let them kind of live. But no honor, your mother and father is a commandment. So take care of the elderly. Give them the best life possible.

And in this case, there was a beautiful woman, Nita, that, that had our products and put that in front of her eyes, had her open her eyes in the light, which is what I was saying with the study. Had it, put it over her feet. She’s like, what happened to my feet? What do you mean, what happened to your feet? I could feel. I. I couldn’t sleep for the longest time because of the pain in my feet. Now I, now I don’t feel it at all. What did you do to them? I. Because she had smile dementia.

I put the red light over you. And so we’re seeing this turn around and same thing. She asked, what, who changed the television? What do you mean, Joanne? No one changed your television. She said, who changed my television? Give me the remote. Puts it on the stock channel. I can read what it says on the stocks channel. I haven’t been able to read in six years. Who changed this? I didn’t change the television. I put red light in front of your eyes. Wow. So it’s really touching. I saw a woman go from bedridden with Graves disease, a hyperactive thyroid, Shannon.

And she was, she was, she was practically immobile. And the doctor said, look, give up your marathon running. You kidding me? This is ridiculous. And her friend Elizabeth, they both were using our red light devices. And again, it’s not a claim. I don’t say this will happen for everyone. I have no idea. But she just got in front of it every day. Next two and a half weeks, she was just right in front of it, over all her organs. She went to compete in the New York Marathon two and a half weeks after being told that she’d never be able to.

She couldn’t do it. Wow. Yeah. So anyway, so we, we definitely want to help people with real solutions because that’s where I get fulfillment in my career. Because like I mentioned to you, when we’re talking behind off Camera about my work with, with humanitarian aid. It was about transforming communities and that’s what I’m doing in northern Kenya was seeing lives get restored through regenerative farming and with famine relief to help them during the season that they need. And, and lives change is what motivates me. I don’t really care about being a talking head. I don’t care about anything else.

Your dad got to 103. My grandma helped to get to 98. And these are the things that I want. So what we do with RedLife is that we’re helping people with high quality products that work. And I mentioned Dr. Tony Jimenez for the Hope for Cancer Treatment centers. And I’m not making claims about cancer. I’m talking about red light being a beneficial tool in their patient follow up program. They’re using our red life like my company’s devices for their patient follow up program. And so this gives you an idea of, you know, the clinic that whether it’s Olivia Newton John or Suzanne Summers or these are, these are the types of people that he’s.

And he helped both of those individuals to go into remission. And it’s a longer journey and that’s part of the reason why people need tools in their homes. Because you go to a clinic, then you come home. What did you do at the clinic? Let’s set up your home like the clinic. Let’s avoid you by God’s grace. And I, I can, who, who can, who can roll it, you know, tell the future. But let’s, let’s set up your home in a way where you can protect and achieve the most abundant health within the four corners of your home or your room and give you abundant health.

So we’re supplying these to these, these top institutions or top doctors like whether it’s Dr. Dan Daniel Pompa or Dr. Brian Artist, his team and Dr. Ed group with Global Healing like we’ve got a lot. Sherry Tenpenny We’ve got lots of the big hitters. Dr. Lee Merritt using our red light devices to help them and our pulse electromagnetic field therapy mats. And so we are offering them and we want people to be able to access those tools, use them for their health and to be able to use them for whatever they might be battling or trying to prevent.

And like I said, trying it out. We’ve got to a 60 day money back guarantee. So you literally can just try it for 60 days and if you’re not happy send it back and we’ll complete refund. There’s not a restocking fee which we probably shouldn’t be doing, but we’re doing it. We’re at least doing it now. And we’re giving some really great discounts to Community as well. Which, which is a, like a 25 off for any individual item, which still comes with free gifts. Then there’s a 30 off for the bundled items when people get a package of several of the items.

And so that is MJF, MJF 25 for 25% off and MJF 30 for 30% off of the bundled items at specifically. That is my redline dot com. Okay. Yeah, my redline dot com. And you brought a number of like, what is this smaller one here? Yeah, yeah. So this is like the guy behind me, just a little bit bit smaller. And like, when you see them listed on the page, this is referred to as the, the 200. All right. Yeah. So there’s some really cool things I want to talk about here. Right. So like, see how you got all these different colors? These are nine different wavelengths.

So. And then you say wavelengths. What’s so cool about that? Well, they all penetrate different levels of your body. John, let me. Do you have to. Actually, every part of your body has to be in front of the light. It doesn’t like, you get your chest and it goes throughout your whole body. Do you have to put that body part in front of them? Both are true because, because like, you’ll see even if you just got it on your wrist, it’s going to circulate through your body because you, your blood flows. And, and the thing is, and the thing is, in addition, if you have a sore area of your body, the most beneficial is to put it against that area of your body.

And if you don’t do that, it will be less immediate. But there are some, some, some reports and, and even studies where people will get into a bed and they’ll take their ankle that’s sprained and put it out of the bed. And then because the rest of the body is getting treated this. And it’s going to send it to the ankle. The ankle gets healed as if it was being applied directly. But still, you know, sciatica, back pain, you, you want to put it on the area and then directly over the organs. And that’s why, like, this is going to cover, like, most of that.

This is going to get for. Unless you’re really, really tall, like for me or you, that’s going to get from the head to the groin area. And so that covers all your organs. Right. And so, and this is going to get closer to that. But. And then it has a portability factor. That’s the. That’s the 300 Pro Max and this is the 200 and. And then these nine wavelengths are really fascinating because you see that this, this is. This is blue. That’s 480. Then you’ve got 590. That’s a yellow, orange. Then you’ve got 630, 660, which are all the red.

And 670. It was 670. That was proven with the eyesight, with the three minutes. 17 immediately. That’s what’s fascinating to me. Because normally when you look long into any light, it’s harmful for your eyes. Yeah. But this is very beneficial. It is, it is. And then the thing that I am not accurately demonstrating right now is what I should be doing is taking out the blue. Right. So. And then look at this. I’ve got red nearer Fred and yellow. The ones that you can’t see are the 800-800-10, 830, 850 and 1060. So they’re all the near infrared and they’re penetrating all the way through to the bone and the deepest part of your organs.

And so there’s the red and yellow. That was the. There’s just the red and infrared. So there’s just the yellow. And so this is kind of fascinating. You’ll never really see people demonstrating this type of thing. It’s not. Not normal. Like, normally you’ve just got like one or two wavelengths. You’ve got a pretty low radius. For what? Yeah, sure. Which one’s for what? So the answer to that would be all would be like, if you’ve got your eyes closed and it’s during the day, you’ve got nine wavelengths. You’re biologically designed for a full spectrum. So this is the.

This is like a full spectrum. Why. Why would you take anything out? There’s no need. If you’re looking into it, then just do all of them except for the blue. Because blue isn’t proven to be safe directly. Like, that’s why you don’t look directly at the sun during the day. And. But you do at a sunrise and a sunset. And arguably God made it that way because you’re supposed to enjoy it. Panel there, that has blue on it. So if you’re going to stand in front of it and stare in it, do you need to take.

Yes, yeah, exactly. Exactly. And then. And then in the evening, even if you were doing it in the evening before bed, then you’d still ideally Take the blue out even though because there’s not a lot of blue, it should not give you any disruption. It’s just biologically, if you’re going by, by the design of things. The other thing that’s really important is the, the irradiance that was, that’s the number one thing to look for. So the amount of power delivered. And so what we did, because we use 42 mil chips and 30 degree lenses, we’re getting the highest delivery of power which means we’re at 205 milliwatts per centimeter squared, which is the highest tested rating.

There’s $150,000 beds like the Nova Thor, they’re reporting 50 milliwatts of centimeters squared at the surface. So that’s a, that’s like a four times difference. And so technology just did advance and that’s why we, we wanted to keep up with the most advanced tech but make it affordable so like the average person could afford advanced tech. And that’s the mission of the company Red Line. It’s about, it’s about massive transformation. It’s about you know, precision and elite level, you know, healing like top athletes, right. You know, guys like Tim Tebow is a good friend of mine.

He’s using these devices for his own health. And so you know, it’s nice now or that the Dr. Tony Jimenez is not just the patients in the follow up program. It’s, he’s, this is what he’s using for his own health. And so even though he’s, he’s got the beds in his clinic. So just to know that these are, these are the kind of with at home use that, that even the top docs are using. It’s really great to know that. But the irradiance is key. If it didn’t have that, the amount of power delivered you wouldn’t have much benefit.

And that’s the difference between a fake light. There’s not, it’s not getting the energy into the cell. And then the final thing is the EMFs and the flicker rate. So if it’s high flicker rate then it’s going to be damaging. So it’s like an on off, on off which is happening with like LEDs in the home. And so these light emitting diodes are not flickering and that’s, and that’s why they’re not toxic. And then emfs is zero emfs coming out of it. And the same is true with the, the pulse electromagnetic field therapy mats. And, and then you’ve got like the, the benefits of using like These small, smaller devices we had, we had a woman who had a 9 out of 10 pain score with back pain.

And it was using this like red light device. I can use it on my neck. Yeah, it makes it really easy to do it and something that, you know, it’s really just a couple hundred dollars is able to be used then to, to help with, with localized issues. But because it’s still a big surface area. Right. So it’s going to get red light all through the body. Yeah. How long would have. Let’s say because I really do have an issue with my neck. How long would I leave that on? 30 minutes would be a general thing.

If you see it across a lot of studies, as little as 15 minutes and as long as 30 minutes. And as much as like this would be pushing it to the, to the limits. 30 minutes twice a day. But ultimately you could read all this different stuff in the studies. Ultimately your body will tell you. And that’s the thing. Like you, you either feel better or you’ll feel like, okay, I’m, I, I’m getting diminishing returns here. Like I’m just this. Better that I’m just as well or better off by doing only, only 20 minutes a day total.

But yeah, spaced out that, that, that would be fine. And again, like, because you’ll be, you’ll be here in front of this, that in front of your neck. Standing up against it is going to be the highest delivery of power. It’s a, it’s about twice of what you would get through like a smaller localized device. So that, that would be more powerful than that one. It is, it is. But which is the longer. Yes, exactly. Like, which is better, the DSLR or the iPhone? Right. It’s the camera that you use so that one becomes really powerful.

But that, but this is the. Like, in order for me to get this over all my organs, you think about how many times I need to move this and how long it’s going to take me to do that. So I can do that in 15 minutes total, whereas this would take me about an hour to get it over organization. So that’s why that’s a really powerful hack. This stand, which comes as a free gift, would go horizontal. And this is why we. Have you ever heard of the med bed concept? The med beds? No, med beds are like known as, like a conspiracy or as a coming technology where you’d get into the med bed and it would regenerate you and you would be able to like reverse aging and reverse chronic disease and that type of thing.

And the only thing that resembles the criteria of a med bed is pulse electromagnetic field and red light therapy in combination. The clinical studies, when they’re stacked together, it’s amplifying the earth’s magnetic field, which is what you get if you’re in sunlight, if you don’t have shoes on when you’re grounding or lying down against the ground. And then you’re getting the. The sun’s rays. And both are interfacing with the mitochondria, both are producing new stem cells and clearing out disease cells called senescent cells. And that’s why you are literally regenerating. And that’s why these results are showing that people with insomnia, 69.7% go into remission for insomnia during the clinical study on pemf.

You see the osteoarthritis, periathritis, various types of arthritis. PEMF is working extraordinarily well to put those conditions in remission or turn the clock on them. And they’re lasting. You see, it’s the number one thing for sarcopenia. Muscle loss, muscle wasting, really laying on this. Yes. On the pulse electromagnetic field map, which, which is hard to see in the shot here. Now you say electromagnetic. This is, this functions differently than the red light. Yes. Even though that’s electromagnetic waves, but it’s photons and it’s light, whereas this is the, this is magnetic. So the earth’s magnetic field. And then we’re getting a high push.

Right. This is the weird thing. Right. So we want one people to get in the sun without people doing anything other than listening to what I’m saying. Getting out into the sun and getting grounded, you’re going to have massive improvements in health and especially a sunrise, sunset when the sun is red. But even during the middle of the day, there’s benefits during the middle of the day. This is the reason why the Nobel Prize was won in 1903 for light therapy reversing lupus vulgaris by Niels Reinberg Finson. So Nobel prizes one for light therapy reversing disease.

Anyway, so one get out into nature. The reason why you would make the choice to use devices is because you’ve got between 20 to 40 times the amount of power delivery. It’s measured in irradiance, the amount of light, the power of that penetration of light in a red light device versus the sun. So that’s why the benefits in the studies that I’m mentioning are so profound in combination with, in contrast to what you get in nature. Even though nature is profound and people, if, if that’s all we had, we, we could heal. I think there’s something profound about being, you know, mankind being made in the image of God, where we’re able to amplify what God did in our time.

That it’s all God’s frequencies. It’s. None of it is outside of what he’s made. It’s just amplifying it in a way that makes it more viable. This will, this will emit about a million times the amplitude of the Earth’s natural magnetic field. Amplitude. The magnetic field strength is, is about 150 milli Tesla versus 0.00005 milli Tesla for the Earth’s magnetic field. And part of the reason why I put a magnet on this. I don’t know if it’s possible to show the magnet which is here. Maybe it will, maybe it won’t, right? No. You filmed that cam.

Did you do that before? Yeah, I did get it on the other camera. So we’ll have them connect that. Okay. They’ll edit that in to show that. That’s interesting. So, Jonathan, let me ask you this. Last year, wow. I’m in the south of France and we’re on vacation and for no reason whatsoever, I couldn’t get out of bed. My back. And for what, maybe three weeks after that pain, like you wouldn’t believe. And it just went away. And every once in a while I didn’t do anything. I don’t know what I did. It just. It’ll come and go.

Would this be helpful? I can’t tell you for sure. I do believe it will be. And it could be either one or it could be both. And like when I say that, I mean PEMF and red light. In terms of, for you, it’s possible that what happened was an issue of electromagnetic field radiation or frequency radiation. It’s possible the EMFs were throwing you off. It’s possible that some toxins were throwing you off. It’s possible that it was a structural issue that had happened over time in your body. That means that that’s manifesting in that certain way in that time and by, and, and in which case it was structural, then it could be some support with chiropractic or certain ways of stretching out the body and, and helping to unwind the damage.

And that’s why certain exercises like, can help stretch that out. Other than that, yes, it, it, it should work. Either one of them could be the main thing or of both of them. When it comes to like back Pain. They’re both so neck and neck. You think about it, you’re designed for both of them. Yeah. You know what I mean? And that’s why we also put red light into the PEMF mat as well. And we, in this case, we put eight coils. Like normally it’s just three coils. We put eight coils in it. We put 633, 668, 50, and 1064.

So we put the most proven red and near infrared wavelengths. So it’s got red light and then fire infrared heat. So that’s like a sauna therapy. They’re three different technologies into one. So if you’re on it, then. Because you’d be getting read and near infrared at the same time, even if you just only got a PEMF mat, which is really a PEMF plus red light plus far infrared. Yes. That could be remarkable for you. And we’ve seen people do really well. And then you, by sleeping much better and beating some of that issue, you’re producing stem cells while you’re sleeping.

So it’s. It’s so hard to quantify. And the other thing is, I’d say get off gluten wheat products because they’re going to be attacking those parts of the body and causing inflammation. And you may be feeling pain because you ate something that hurt you, not just because there was something structural. So interesting, it all kind of comes together, right? Yeah, it is. Well, listen, I become a believer. Yeah. Like I said, not only my good friends, but now. That’s why I looked you up and really wanted to have you on. I mean, I really appreciate it.

And we’re going to see. I’m going to get into it and get trying it, and I’ll let you know, let my viewers know how it works, and we’ll see what happens. That’s awesome, Michael. I really appreciate you having me on. I think that it’s. It’s beautiful when we can put ads together to see how we can make life better and more enjoyable, give people back. Well, you know, you know what, Jonathan, I’ll tell you this. And you know, we got a lot of unrest going on, not only in this country, but in the world. And I’ve said this many times.

I’ve traveled the world. I’ve been in every city in the United States. Several times I go to speak or whatever. People have always been so nice to me. I mean, accepting, just wonder. And I’ve told. We have wonderful people all over this country and really all over the world who’ve been to you everywhere. And, you know, I’ve been very blessed in my life. I really have to be alive and to be free and to be sitting here with you, you probably don’t realize what an accomplishment that is, because I tell people, if you were part of the life that I was part of and you managed to die of old age and die free, you’ve really accomplished something.

And so everybody that I ran with during that time is either dead or in prison. Everybody. Wow. And I’m the only survivor, and I got a blessed life. We all had our ups and downs and obstacles and challenges, but I’ve had a blessed life. And I tell people we only get one shot at this life. We want to live it well. We want to have a good quality of life. That’s why I’ve been so interested in this, because, you know, I have friends tell me that with medical advances now, if you can live to the age of 30, I mean, if you can live until 20, 30, another five years, you can probably live to 100 years old and have a good quality of life.

And it’s things like this that are getting us there. It’s this kind of therapy. So that’s why I’m interested in. That’s why I want my viewers to see it. And that’s why I really, you know, appreciate you coming on. And if. And if, you know, the products are available to them, we can give them some. I don’t push anybody to buy anything, but I like to make things available to them and then they make their choice, you know, at that point. But so I really appreciate that. And if my viewers can get a discount, it would be even better.

Yeah, absolutely. And that’s why we got that available. So thank you for entertaining and opening that conversation with. With your audience, because ultimately, if that conversation doesn’t happen, then people, well, they would never know about it. They wouldn’t know. No. And I’m fortunate because my wife, her lifestyle has been healthy ever since I met her. She was 19 years old. I met her always working out, always running. She was a dancer and always watched what she ate, you know, and my daughters followed suit with her. They’re nutritionists. They’re, you know, personal trainers. And so I don’t have a chance to not be healthy because they’re watching me all the time.

But then I started, you know, I look at my dad 103, and I said, you know, and I see so many people that don’t take care of themselves. You know, it’s. And I say this, you know, you go to Disneyland or places like that, and just out of concern, I want to say to them, you know, come on, you know, get yourself healthy. So when you have something like this, that’s really. It’s really easy. That’s what I love about it. I mean, it’s easy. Just stand in front of it. And the, you know, the benefits of it are miraculous.

In a way, this really works. And I have to believe. Look, my friends. My friend Tommy Mottola, this guy, how could I tell you? He researches everything. He’s very wealthy guy. So he. All he wants to do is. Am I right, Cam? He wants to be healthy. So he’s got everything. And he’s totally into this. He says, michael, the benefits have been amazing. My friend Chaz, the same thing. He said, the benefits have been amazing. They’ve been trying to get me to go on it really, you know, for the last two years. Yeah, I kind of take my time, you know, but, yeah, when I saw my wife with the mask, I said, okay, wait a minute.

Now this is sitting close to home. That’s great. She did more research. Yeah. Yeah, like that. Now, what’s the difference? Because she does the mask. Yeah. Would she still have to use the mask or just stand in front of the. Okay, there is a difference. Even though for some, they may find that just. Just being in front of the. The. The panel, like, essentially, that should just be great because you’re getting it over the areas of the body. They’re designed a little bit specifically. Well, not a little bit, but a lot specifically to be beneficial in that they’re causing the.

They’re hitting shallower because the skin is shallow. Whereas for this, we’re primarily trying to hit deep into the bones. But. But we. I mean, the blue is shallow. No matter what, it’s going to hit shallow. And even the. That. That yellow is very good for hyperpigmentation and so going to hit shallow. But then the radiance being set lower at 50 milliwatts per SEM squared is actually designed for that. And we’re using lasers in this for. For, you know, certain penetration within the skin. So it will outperform. Right. So if that. If that’s what somebody’s looking for and that’s what they’re trying to do.

So what’s the direct benefit of this? It’s. It’s the looks. I mean, it’s the wrinkles, fine lines, the. The. The saggy. Yeah. Acne, the droopy eyelids, the. The wrinkles, the crow’s feet, the forehead wrinkles. It’s, it’s for all of those. And that’s what. You know. So there’s the, there’s the blue there. Right. And you would use the blue for that. You would use the blue for the, the acne. And then you would use. And then you go over to, to red. That’s where Jules use the blue. Right, for the acne. Yeah. And then we’ve got the 660 and 1064, which is the deeper side of the near infrared and the peak of the red spectrum, which is.

And, and so like these are some of the powerful modalities you’ve got. Like, you got the ability to use the red light over the hair. To hair growth. Yeah, yeah, for hair growth. And there would be the aspect. Because, because red light and near infrared light are proven to degrade formaldehyde in the brain, which is really toxic chemical linked to memory loss. So it will have the secondary benefit of helping improve cognitive function through both detoxification and, and other methods. But yeah, so you could just kind of choose which modalities or you could kind of rotate your head around.

And so it’s not that you have to go one particular direction. It’s about kind of choosing what’s going to work for your lifestyle. Starting somewhere. Someone might start with a panel like this and decide, okay, this is going to be really easy to kind of sit with or travel. I mean, I’m traveling with this right now. And even though it’s, it’s, I mean, you know, the belts are very travel ready, but it’s really just people finding what, what works for them. And I think, Michael, one of the big takeaways is that you think about how much people spend on different things.

Yeah. And you know, how much you’re, how much value you are to the cancer industry. With a, with a diagnosis, it’s typically about one and a half million dollars per recurrence, per, per. Like so if you have cancer once, but then if it’s a second time and third time, which is very common. And again, I’m not making claims saying it’s going to prevent anything. What I’m saying is those are the really expensive bills that can leave you homeless. Even though you could have insurance. Even with insurance, you could be. Oh absolutely, playing that 10 of like one and a half million.

So. Or, or an autoimmune condition or thyroid drugs for the rest of your life or, or insomnia medication or pain medication. And so why wouldn’t you try like, you know, a couple hundred dollar red line device to see if it helps you with the pain. And we’ve seen that countless times. And the reason why something like this would outperform a single supplement is because I’m reordering the supplement every month. And I, you know, I’ve been, I’ve formulated some really great supplement products. So like, I speak from experience and I could easily tell people, oh yeah, look, it’s, it’s great and they do work really well in combination.

But my point is that if there’s one thing you’re gonna use as a staple, it would still be the red light because it becomes the most affordable. Like I can have my whole family on this device for decades. And that’s why we’re using it under FDA Class 2 certification. It’s 50,000 hours, which equates to about 80 years with a family using it. And I mean, you felt the build, right? Yes. I mean, these are heavy. This is cast iron and very well made. Yeah, built to last. And these are, these are dual lights. There’s two different light sources.

That’s why the near infrared is invisible. You’ve got two different light sources coming out of the same. So everything you can see, double it because you’ve got two different lights coming out of the same source. So that, that then becomes cheaper. Like If I have one supplement, 50, 600 for me, for my family of four, that’s 2400 one supplement. They can’t do all the things right, whether it’s the, the stem cell regeneration. Like I, I’ve not been able to find any supplements that can do that. I haven’t been able to find like, combination of different products that can, can, you know, have the cognitive benefits, the gut health benefits with circadian rhythm and interfacing with the microbiome.

I’ve not been able to see those, the thyroid function benefits. And so then you’ve got one thing that can score in so many different categories for the next 10 years on, on a, on that supplement protocol of one supplement for my whole family. I’d be at $24,000 for one supplement over the next 10 years. So what you’ve done is by making like, whether it’s a, you know, whatever amount of money you’re spending, whether you’re breaking that up on a, monthly payments on a 6 or 12 months or whatever you’re doing, or you’re just paying it outright, you’re, you’re setting up a whole new system for your family to escape the medical system.

I’m not saying that you can prevent anything or diagnose anything or Treat anything. I’m not saying those things. What I’m saying is you’re just, you’re setting yourself up on another pathway through regenerative medicine and saying, look, I’m going to tap into how my body recreates and regenerates and I’m going to tap into this, I’m going to measure the benefits and I’m going to lean into this and improve organ function. And that’s my future. And so I just really want to encourage people with that action of what it means to take your own health into your own hands and look for the most optimal well being for you and your family and your loved ones and be a missionary, share this news with others so that they can have help and hope.

Hope to have the best life possible. No. And I intend to do that. And I have to ask you this. If I go on social media, in my feed, I hear so much lately about dementia and how it could be cured and how to prevent it. Is that the cap? Well, I would still say benefits there. It would be helpful with that because you’re still getting red and infrared light over the brain. But remember, the gut and the brain are deeply connected and the, and the brain and the thyroid are directly connected and the brain is connected to every organ of the body, obviously.

Right. So my encouragement is that obviously if people were unlimited and they had unlimited space, we’d say get a red light bed head to toe. But, but the, because the mitochondria aren’t in the, they’re not in the, they’re in the bones. So you’re going to get benefit all the way down to your toes. But the most optimal and most important region is head to groin area. So if you are wanting to turn around and the early effects, which is interesting, that depression and anxiety are prerequisites for dementia and Alzheimer’s, you’ve got a four to five times greater risk of dementia.

And Alzheimer’s, which is part of dementia, you have such dramatically increased risk because the depression is a symptom of some imbalance in the body and the lack of your gut producing enough serotonin and dopamine. And 70, 80% of that’s produced in the gut. And that’s where your gut is breaking down your food to convert the minerals into neurotransmitters. And so all this needs to work together. So I’m just encouraging people to get it into their brain. And like the other thing is like, because the brain, this is so cool. The brain has the highest concentration of mitochondria so you’ve got in a thyroid cell, you might have 1 to 5,000 mitochondria per thyroid cell, or the heart similar, or the liver.

But the brain, hundreds of thousands in certain brain cells. And. And guess what? The eyes are part of the brain exposed. And so guess what happens when you look into red light. It goes straight into your brain. Right. And that’s why the studies on eyesight improvement. Eyesight is just a symptom of improved brain function. Yeah. So why is it 17 within the same 24 hour period? This is amazing. The depression scores are a single hour after red light is exposed and the depression SC was improve in the participants and then the second hour even greater again.

So, yes, I believe that looking into red light and getting it over the organs is the best thing that you could do for preventing. Well, you know, I can’t make that claim, but I believe that it would be so helpful to be constructive towards a life without dementia. Let me ask you. That’s a really interesting. Let me ask you this one more thing that I’m experiencing and that is tinnitus. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Right now I got it. You know, there’s not a ringing, but I hear like the ocean, which you don’t want to hear. Sometimes very loud.

Sometimes it’ll go away. I’ve tried different things. Nothing works. Okay. Honestly, how long ago did it come up? Gosh, well over a year. Yeah, Maybe even though infrared on the ears. Yeah, I think because I have infrared, just found a place that actually offers that. But maybe standing in front of me and it’s affecting my hearing. Yes. Yeah, absolutely. Okay, so I’ll tell you this. All right. There is, there is a collection of studies on this. There was a particular study that showed 100% success with red light with tinnitus. And then I know that the aggregate of the studies and the reflection was like, okay, well, this is an outlier.

So maybe it’s not 100% effective because not all the other groups. I’m saying everyone in that study did achieve according to that study. What I’m saying is it’s often the case where there’s some that are performing their studies better. And so then the results are better in one group. And that should be the general logic that people use when they’re saying, well, why did this one, why was this an outlier? And so one I would be looking into red light. I’d get it over the ears that just stand next to it. Yeah, that’s it. Rotate the head, which, like, let’s say if you’re going to do 20 minutes.

Then you just make sure you’d like, like you’re like a rotisserie chicken coming from the vegetarian’s funny. Right. So I’m not, I’m not a staunch like, you know, zealot for it, but I, I, you know, so, but I’m, you know, vegetarian. So anyway, you’re rotisserie chicken turning around and, and then getting it in the eyes and the ears. And there’s a couple other things I would encourage and it’s interesting that came up a year ago, surprisingly would be nicotine. Even though patches. Yeah, nicotine patches or gum. And I’ve seen cases where people have used nicotine to get completely recovered from tinnitus.

It’s because there’s certain toxins that are binding to the nicotine receptors. And then because it’s neurological, the nicotine receptors are in the brain. It’s particularly the, the alpha 7 nicotinic acetylcholine receptor. This one is the primary target of glyphosate SAS Kobe 2. The spike protein is targeting the nicotine receptors. That’s, that’s heavily proven mainstream medicine, mainstream science. What is, why would you put nicotine in? Well, because it’s in eggplants and tomatoes and potatoes and it’s in the whole nightshade family. So it’s not crazy to put a little bit of nicotine in the body. It’s not in, in the, in these types of fashions.

It’s as people try to debate that it’s addictive. But the chemicals that were added, like pyrozines, the Harvard study was done showing that it was the pyrozines that was the addictive aspect. But low hearing, there’s great studies on low hearing getting turned around on basically which would be low dose nicotine, which would be in the studies around 14 milligrams or 7 or even just starting on 3 milligrams as a patch or gum where you’re putting that much in. But the red light could work in and of itself through mitochondrial function and stimulating all these regions and functions of the body and the brain and the, the, the cochlea.

And you should have complete, I, I believe that you have complete recovery. It’s a toxin issue. And so you just got to systematically go after toxins and it might be just red light that helps your mitochondria to clear the toxins and, and, and then helps regenerate new cells. Because if it’s a loss of cells then your body can just produce more. So you just need to improve the processes of how your body generates cells and the exercise you’re doing and the good diet you’re doing. All of these things come together. It’s no one thing. But yeah, there, there are some quarterbacks in the mix and I’d say red light is clearly that, that I’m really interested in trying because I tell you, that is, it’s, it’s, it’s debilitating in a way.

It really is. It really is. I feel that from you. Yeah, I’m sorry to hear that. It, there are people that are driven to their absolute wits end with, with that, with tinnitus. You know, my, my wife, I told her one thing I pray is that you never get this tinnitus because she’s so sensitive to, to any sound she hears anything. Right. I can’t even hear it. But for me it’s just like she’ll ask me, do you have it now? And I said, yeah, you know, and I can’t hear sometimes she’s right next to me. And you know, people get annoyed sometimes when you’re saying excuse me, what? And I’ve had three different hearing aids because allegedly these hearing aids were work.

You know, supposedly they balance something out in your ear. They don’t work. They don’t work. I mean, I don’t wear them. She’ll get mad you bought these hearing aids, you know, you’re not wearing them, they don’t work and they’re just, they’re annoying to me, you know, so like I can hear you now, but there’s a lot of times when it’s really buzzing and I, it’s very difficult at night with the television. Forget it. I mean I need it loud and she wants it low. It’s so. It’s blasting and I can, I can hardly hear it. And it’s the tinnitus.

It’s not that I’m losing my hearing, it’s the, it’s what I’m hearing in my ear. That’s. Yeah. Like. It’s like the ocean. Yeah, exactly. It. This is what’s so interesting about this where you, if you look at these studies, you look at, you reflect on, on Monsanto and it was so strange that what, what they’ve done is they’ve created this glyphosate that’s poisoned people. And it’s a combination. If you look at the patterns, they have the patent, they’re world leading pattern holder of animal venoms as pesticides. Scorpion was wasps, spider cone snails, snake venoms. And they actually bind to these nicotine receptors and then in the body and then you have all these issues.

And so the $11 billion in lawsuits won against OneSanto, the 150000 cases, they’re all connected to these weird things that are going on in people’s body. And look at the long list of all the symptoms and they include all these types of reactions and much more. And the numbness and the palpitations of the heart, the glioblastomas, the non Hodgkin’s lymphoma. Dwayne, I mean Dwayne Johnson was the groundskeeper that got non Hodgkin’s lymphoma. The judge slashed down the 100 plus million dollar case down to 70 million that the son’s got it. He died. It’s all tragic. This, these toxins are impeding all these different functions.

So we have to clear them out of the body. And so cellular energy and voltage using light therapies to help interface to charge. Guess what the primary damage is? It’s mitochondrial function. You lose mitochondrial function, then you’re not able to drive the cells properly. And they’re just, they’re not, they’re not producing. They’re. And so we’re just vault, you know we’re just improving that whole process. And the, the substance that I mentioned before, the, where I gave the letters, it was Mary, Mary Sam, because I can’t say it right but that, that is enough and people will see what that is and people can get resources and we’ll like people will exchange and my, I’ll be writing back to people and stuff like that.

But these are thing because I just want people to get. It’s a free tool that people can use and we’re seeing people use it first. The condition you’re talking about and, and anything else, late stage cancer, thyroid conditions, schizophrenia. Like it, it’s, it’s why it’s working as an like an antidote of sorts across the board. And that’s as much as I can say on that because I want to be really careful. But these are tools. And the reason why it works is because of oxygen. That, that substance that I’m mentioning because it’s using salts will, will help to provide like millions, about 10,000,700 000 oxygen molecules for every red blood cell in the body.

And by flooding the body with oxygen, you’re allowing the healing of the body. And then with something like this you’re correcting how your body produces oxygen and the cells go through cellular respiration. Well Jonathan, this has been incredibly Interesting. I really mean that. And I’m excited for myself to start on this red light therapy. I’m gonna. Am I using the right phrase when I say red light therapy? Yeah, it’s correct. Yeah. Yeah. And I look forward even to getting the mat. Yeah, I’m gonna do it all, you know, because at this stage of my life, I’ll be 75 in, in May, and I’m looking to at least match my dad, you know, barring no unforeseen circumstances, who passed at 103.

And my father, I can tell you this, he was one of the first people to go with COVID Oh, no. As a matter of fact, he went into the hospital 103. Yeah. We didn’t even know what Covid was. It was like the end of January, February, when he got it. And Covid didn’t come out until, like, we started to learn about it in March. So I think he was one of the first Covid, you know, tragedies. But other than that, he, who knows, he might still be around. But, you know, look, and he was, he was a health nut, my dad.

He believed in taking care of himself. He would take, like, 30 vitamin pills a day when we were younger. He would chase me and my brothers and sisters around the house with cod liver oil like the Little Rascals. I don’t know. It’s before. That’s awesome. No, I know. Yeah. Little ride cod. Live royal. And we thought he was crazy, but you know what? I said, dad, maybe there’s something to it, because you’re living pretty long. Yeah. But so anyway, you made me a believer with a cod liver oil. I, yeah, I, I, I, I think it works.

Yeah, I mean, he, he put. None of my brothers and sisters would take it except me. I was standing there, okay, dad, and do it. But, you know, look, I really, and I really mean this, and I think my viewers know this, I’ve been helping people out for the last 30 years spiritually. I mentor a lot of people. I get to a lot of young kids, try to keep them out of the bad gang life and all of that. And listen, physically, we want to live the best quality of life that we possibly can. And if this is something, you know, that, gosh, it’s so easy and it could be so helpful, then I’m going to encourage people, you know, to try it.

Try it. That’s it. You know, and I thank you for making it available to them, you know, and get a little discount, you know, for, for being a follower of mine. So, so, yeah, really Appreciate it. Oh, you’re welcome. No, we, we want to help people and, and yeah, like it’s great to take advantage of those opportunities and so we, we love to offer discounts and help people and give support. Often people are just kind of like, oh, you know, get this. But like you, it’s a mission and getting people the results that they need and, and mentoring them.

And that’s why you see that we’re, we week by week we’re doing live calls with our groups and helping them to, to actually lean in and get the hope and motivation. People boxes and kind of have a hope and, and don’t follow through because they feel a little lost in it all. So we seek to solve that for people and, and give people a real pathway to health and healing. And did they do that through your website, Jonathan? Yeah, it’s just like myredlight.com and, and then through there and, and you, you can write to us or call us and you’ll see like the, the emails and so forth.

And once you purchase a product product, then we can help you and we’ll, you’ll get email notifications, hey look, we’ve got a live call coming up. Join us or watch the recording anytime you like. And so it’s just like once you, once you jump in, we are able to kind of support because can’t really help you with something that we don’t know or can’t vet or verify. And, and it also is just something that allows us to kind of dive deeper. But we do like, we release a lot of free documentaries actually reach well over 100 million people with our.

Have free documentaries. Really. And that’s why when I was a producer on the Truth About Cancer, I kept producing series like Autoimmune Secrets, Autoimmune Answers, Cancer Secrets, Cancer Decoded, regenesis, Absolute Healing, Healing Genesis. Like so many different names. And so you can look up all the documentaries I do. You could find them screening and streaming for free. Free screenings. And watch me and, and you know, another 50 or 100 doctors teaching alongside me, helping people understand what to do for dementia or depression or. So we, yeah, I’m so passionate about getting people the answers and providing free resources to the public and then giving people within that so many different free tools that you can activate.

Like, and there’s so many great ones. And this one, it was a conversation. We’re encouraging people to get into nature and then to use therapies that can enhance that. And I think the, you know, just setting up your home is a healing Oasis. So that kind of like when you turn the lights on in your home or you turn on your faucet at that point it becomes free. And, and so like once, once you’ve set that up then you, you kind of, you’ve made a decision and you’ve created a system whereby now you’ve, you’ve got a resource and, and, and it becomes free at that point onwards.

Alanis Morissette said it’s a free ride if you’ve already paid. Yeah, right. So you just like how do I get off this bandwagon? I, I can’t afford these bills every month. If I keep going like this, how do I get off the bandwagon? So get empowered and, and improve your health in the best possible way and use tools that can continue to be used. And, and then I, I keep referencing different things in here. So look back for the gems or re, watch this if you like and, and see the different gems there that you can dive into.

And, and by the way I did mention it with the nicotine like people can use that for lots of different things. I’ve seen all kinds of things get reversed. There’s some things that we talked about with your wife and I that we’ll probably do a follow up interview on if, if you want to where we can share some really great tools that there. But the parasite cleansing is also really good because you don’t think about how the tinnitus could, or the heavy metals, they could be connected. So heavy metal cleansing on humic and fulvic acid, EDTA parasite cleansing with black walnut hulls and mimosa pudic acid or ivermectin and these things.

Once you clear out more toxins you’re just creating a way for healing in the body. So just don’t think about it in terms of how do I get rid of this problem, how do I get rid of the toxins that are causing this problem? And there’s only a few categories. Toxic heavy metals, parasites, venoms, which is because the food supplies and even other things in the medicine. But yeah, you just bacteria and then inflammatory foods and so you’re just really looking at a few categories and then you can get to the bottom of it. You can let your body heal and regenerate because you know if I cut my arm and then it didn’t heal, you’d say that’s weird.

Like why is it not healing? And the only reason why I wouldn’t heal is because there’s an infection, otherwise it would just heal. It would heal on Its own. There’s an infection in the body, and it’s a systemic infection. So we just move. Remove the. The cause and then let your body heal. Yeah. Well, here’s what I’m going to do. I’m going to start this therapy, and what I would like to do is maybe a month, five, six, seven weeks, you’re back this way. I’d love to have you on again. Yeah, it’d be amazing. And I can tell you the result.

You know, how it worked for me. Me. Hopefully it’ll do what you say because again, my neck and you know, when you get a little bit older, the aches and pains after you golf or you do a couple of things, sometimes you just wake up in the morning and the legs, you know, and. And I’m an active guy. It’s not like I’m not. But, you know, it’s. It’s little things that you. You hope you can improve in your body. So I’m gonna. I’m gonna really try it. I’m gonna be disciplined with it. My wife is a lot more disciplined when.

Whenever she, like, will take her medications or vitamins. I am not. Not. But I’m going to be determined to do this because the benefits seem to be real. And so I’m going to try it when there’s a will, there’s a way. And you people are talking about this where you put the red light over the testicles and that is causing a production of testosterone. And anyone can look this up. And it’s actually true. Guys, you’re listening. And. And then there’s lots of things that motivate guys. Where is, like erectile dysfunction is connected to nitric oxide signaling.

And so what red light does is it triggers and signals and creates the production of nitric oxide. And so it is being used for that. And so there’s. I’m not saying that. Honey, what do you think about that? Yeah, exactly. So I know how to motivate guys, right? Yeah. And these, these are the things I’m like, exactly. If I get down to drive and. Yeah, but let me. So do you have to, you know, be naked? That doesn’t go through the clothing. Near infrared does. PMF does go through the clothing, near infrared, which is 800 to, you know, 1060 or 1100, that will go through.

So everything you can’t see goes through. Everything you can see doesn’t. So, yes, it’s ideal. But like, if you’re lying on that, like a PMF mat, like what’s in front of us there, it’ll go straight through the clothing and you could even put a sheet over it because we put a nine hour timer in that so that it means that you could actually sleep on it. Not that really. Not that everyone wants to do that. But for those that do, a lot of people have trouble with sleep. You’re going to get the earth’s magnetic field through your body while you sleep.

It’s really cool coming like a wolverine kind of healing protocol here. Excellent. Well, Jonathan, I can’t thank you enough. Thank you. And I’m getting excited now to try it, so. But would you. If I invite you back the next couple of weeks, you’ll be back. It’d be, it’d be so much fun. I’d really love that. And I can’t wait to see how you do with everything and the whole family. Tyler and Julia. Oh, they’re into it already? Yeah, they’re excited. Tyler was already a believer. He was. He got really excited when he heard you were coming because he says, michael, this works.

He said, I used to, every time after a game, after practice, he said it’s. He loved it. Amazing. Awesome. Well, thank you for having me, my friend. Thank you. Okay. All right, my friends, listen up. I’ve got some important news. I would say, you know my private platform, the Franzes family, it’s over on school. We just now lowered it to 10 bucks a month. We dropped it from 20 for a limited time only because this year, 20, 26, we’re plugging in some integral, accessible, street filled wisdom that you never heard of before. Inside this platform, I’m sharing very exclusive, never before seen courses.

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