Russell Brand REVEALS Powerful People Dark Cabals and Hollywood Lies

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The world has got you, it’s hypnotized you. You don’t have to be controlled by that world. There is a way to live in the world but not be of it. In that Epstein world, it seems like very, very powerful people were being sexually compro by access to the most dark, weird stuff, child sacrifice, all that kind of stuff. I don’t know why people would think that powerful people have stopped doing that. I’m not surprised that Gen Z are turning away because they’ve tried everything else. They’ve had extreme politics, extreme identity, extreme drugs, extreme consumerism, communism, fascism.

Is technology going to save us? Are we going to combine with AI and have neuralink minds? That’s not going to work either. If you don’t have Christ at the center, you will fall again into believing that you are God. You will worship false gods. Therefore you will be deposited back in a place of pursuing mad pleasure and pointless, pointless endeavors. Hey everyone. Welcome to another sit down with Michael Francis. Hope everybody is doing well. All is very good, very blessed on this end, my friends. And as always, you know I give all the praise, honor, glory and thanksgiving to our God for that because well, he deserves it.

He’s our God. Very interesting guest today, Russell Brand. I’m sure you know who he is. You know he’s been in many good movies, I would say movies that I liked very much. He’s a very talented guy, very smart guy, very well educated. He’s been on social media, I think he’s been on Piers Morgan, Patrick Bud David, my friend in past couple of weeks and, and I’m fortunate enough to be able to sit down with him today and some controversy about him. He’s currently facing charges in the United Kingdom for having some sexual activity with. I think seven women have accused him of doing things that were inappropriate.

I always say this, innocent until proven guilty. You know how I feel about that. That’s my position all the time. We have a system and that system hopefully works and we don’t. It’s not guilt until proven innocent, it’s innocent until proven guilty. So he has pled innocent to those charges and he’ll face a jury in the coming months. The way I understand it, he’s also become a Christian and a lot of people out there now are saying, well he became a Christian because of the charges and he became a Christian before that, number one. And number two, I don’t ever buy into that because I became a Christian after coming out of the mob life and I get criticized all the time.

Oh Michael, you went to prison. And you became a Christian born again until you’re out again. You know, you hear that all the time. People just like to, you know, put that charge against you. I don’t believe that. I believe his transformation is real. I believe he is a Christian and we’re going to talk about that. And he’s a very intelligent guy. I want you to listen to what he has to say. Very profound, the things that he has to say. He’s been through a lot in his life. He admits to it. He doesn’t hold back.

He talks about it. We can’t talk about his case. I wouldn’t ask him that because you don’t talk about your case pre trial. It’s not supposed to happen. You don’t do that. You don’t let things, you know, that kind of information out until you get to the trial. And you do it at the appropriate time. But I really want you to listen to what he has to say. You know how. You know my style. I let people talk. He’s my guest. I let him talk. And I did that here. And he had a lot of good things to say, a lot of things that made sense about our faith and about the world.

I asked him at the end about this dark side of Hollywood and the entertainment business. And I want you to hear what he had to say. Because ever since Epstein, we’ve been hearing about this dark cabal that does these horrible things. And there could be some truth to it. I’m not discounting it at all. But Russell’s been involved in that industry and I want you to hear what he has to say about that. I asked him that towards the end, but very good interview. I was on his platform about a year and a half ago, and he lives now here in the United States.

He’ll face his charges in the United Kingdom. I think in October he goes to trial, but very interesting guest. So listen to what he had to say. With no further delay, my very special guest, Russell Brand. Russell, good to see you again. We got together, what, about a year ago, I think it was. It was an auspicious day to speak to a man with your history and culture because it was the wedding day of your daughter. And I felt very tempted to ask you for a favor knowing that you wouldn’t be able to refuse on that day.

Well, you got that right. But you know what? That’s more of a Sicilian tradition. I happen to be from Naples Nablan, so. But we do the same thing. And I wouldn’t have. I wouldn’t have Turned you down, so. Oh man. Well, thankfully you’ve got more daughters. Yes, I do. No, no, but this is the last one that, that I’m marrying off. No, no, she’s my last out of five. So no more getting married. Well, one of them might. She might get married again. I don’t know. We’ll see. I want to say this. You’re a Christian, born again Christian, I assume, and I’m sure you’re going to take heat or you will take heat for saying, well now I’m a Christian and forget what I did in the past and you know, I got accused many times after a Christian of doing so because I wanted to clean up my past and I wanted to look good.

And while I was in prison, people were saying, oh, he did it so he can get parole. Let me make this clear. Being a Christian doesn’t matter to the court, doesn’t matter to the jury, doesn’t matter to the parole board, doesn’t matter to the government, doesn’t matter to any. It doesn’t help you in any way, shape or form. So anybody that believes that or says that or accuses you of that, there’s nothing for you to gain here on earth. And all you’re going through by professing the fact that you’re now a Christian. Actually it doesn’t even help with like public opinion, does it? And I’m not from America, remember, I’m in the uk.

I’m not getting tried in like Mississippi or Alabama, like places where it’s like, you know what would be good Christian. It’s likely to be a Christian jury. I’m like. My country in the United Kingdom is deeply, deeply secular and deeply cynical. What I can tell you about my country’s views about Christianity, or at least you can tell where they stand on some Christian principles. But from in the, from these facts they just passed into law that under the right conditions abortion is possible up till term. You can look at that for yourself. They’re bringing in Canada style euthanasia laws.

Now. The reason I suppose I mentioned that is my friends, I want to spend my 75th birthday with you. Do you believe that? Three quarters of a century. It sounds old, but I feel good. Birthdays have always been with my family, except for the time when I was in prison. And I consider you part of that family. You’re my extended family. You’ve supported me online, you’ve came to see me at an event at your church or wherever over the past 30 years. You’ve read my books, you’ve communicated with me in some way. You’re my extended family and I appreciate all the support you’ve given me.

So I’m going to make you an offer you can’t refuse. May 27, we go live on YouTube for the first time ever. You can order the Franzese bundle. My slices pizza, the best fresh frozen pizza ever. Going to eat, I guarantee it. And you’re going to pair it with Franz east wine. You can either have alcoholic or non alcoholic wine and break bread with me. Nobody’s been ever been able to get this bundle before. You’ll be the first. Every bundle comes with a private link to a Q and A that we’re going to do right after the stream.

And this is family only. Your order by May 15 so it gets to you in time. The link is below. I hope to see you all at the table. This is special. 75 years. Praise God for that. Hope to see you there. Birth and death are the literal limits of what of our experience here. And when government starts to move into those territories in very explicit ways is an indicator of what the role of the empire is. My friend Jamie Winship, you should have on your show. He wrote a book called Living Fearless. He’s really helping me to understand the difference between empire and kingdom.

Empire is this fallen world, this realm. We live in sets of institutions that want to arbitrate morality, that want to tell you what’s right and wrong. And you can’t even make those claims, of course, unless there’s a God, unless there’s a God, you cannot definitively say this is right, this is wrong. If human beings are just an accident, then the best guess we can make is at the moment this seems right and this seems wrong. And that’s why it’s kind of confusing when people that have no faith in God and therefore no absolute reality, no absolute truth, no absolute father, no absolute judge that will judge you and me one day.

They live in a world where the highest authority is our collective, or at least our ultimate collective intelligence. If we can argue, let’s go to war with Iran, let’s go to war with Iran. If we could argue, go to war with Russia, go to war with Russia. If we can argue it’s okay to have abortions under these circumstances, have them. If it’s okay to euthanize or sell drugs or have pornography or use these kind of images in advertising or put these kind of things into food, or ban this person from speaking and shut that down, person down.

All these things are possible without God. Once you acknowledge God, then we’re all in the same position and the benefits that we get in the hereafter. And already for me on earth is knowing Christ. Now, what that means to me, Michael, is that I’ve gone from a position where I knew God was real because I took a bunch of drugs when I was young, so I knew something weren’t normal. Like when you take hallucinogens when you’re relatively young. You know, in my mid teens, I had my perception really rattled and shaken about like, oh, my God.

The world that I see is not the only world that there is. I mean, even if you’re an atheist, you acknowledge that, whether it’s quantum physics or vast intergalactic cosmological observations. But when you have a personal encounter of that through perhaps hallucinogens, and you start to recognize, hang on, life is not what I thought it was. I’m not who I thought I. Who I used to think I was. If you don’t have some framework for that and some guidance and some principles, that can be a pretty confusing to be. Certainly was confusing for me when I was young.

Now to learn that we have an identity in Christ, that each of us are wonderfully and fearfully made, that we were knitted together in our mother’s womb. That he made you, Michael. How he wants you. And he made me, Russell, and everyone listening to this, exactly how he wants us. And yet what is also true is we may have a fallen identity in this world. The names the world calls us and also importantly, I think the names we call ourselves in our head. Me. Whatever people might say about me online, that’s nothing compared to what goes on in here.

Like, I’m a, like world class, lifelong crack and heroin addict. The stuff that happens in my mind in any 25 minute period is worse than one swipe on X. You’re the scum of the earth. You’re nothing. You should even be alive. You deserve to die. That’s just like the average 22nd period in my mind. All right, people, listen up. My 75th birthday, May 27th, do you believe this? 75. Three quarters of a century. There was a time I never thought I’d get this far. Now my wife said to me, how do you want to spend your birthday? I said, obviously with family, we do that all the time.

But I have an extended family. All of you people that have watched my videos, have read my books, have, you know, come to visit me when I was speaking anywhere in the world, I want to spend it all with you because you’re my extended family. So here’s what we’re going to do. We have slices, pizza and of course, Franz east wine. The live stream. We’re going to do a live stream and it’s free for everyone, but I’ve got an exclusive deal. You order slices, pizza and Franz east wine through the link in the Description before the 27th, and you’ll get a special link to join me live for an exclusive Q and A right after the live stream.

And it’s just you, me and the family, so order it now. You don’t want to miss this. It’s an offer you can’t refuse. And you know what? This will really, really be a very special and happy birthday for me. So thank you all. Now, thanks to being saved. You know, like, when I go into recovery from the drugs and alcohol, you know, you have to have a faith in a power greater than yourself, because otherwise, how am I going to stop smoking this stuff if. What’s the point? I’m, you know, I found out, and like anyone who’s in recovery knows this, that the reason that I took drugs and drank was because I was looking for a spiritual experience.

I needed to feel connected. I needed to feel that there was meaning in life, in my life, particularly in life more broadly. And I couldn’t find that in this world because this world is fallen in this world, I was told. And I know your journey sort of, in a way lines up with this. If you are not. We’re from different sort of, you know, backgrounds, but I think there’s some similarities. Like, I’m guessing you knew that if you weren’t a certain type of man with certain type of attributes, able to handle certain type of situations, you were not valuable.

And I learned a very similar kind of lesson as well. And by the time I’d gotten into all of that, it was sort of a little bit late. Be a Hollywood movie star. Be. Make yourself attractive and appealing. Live as if the only thing that really matters, other than the obvious things that everybody understands about sort of right and wrong. And hey, you know, I’m not making aspersions about, you know, sometimes those lines are crossed in some people’s lives and world, not especially in mine, other than like, you know, drug use, as I’ve talked about. But, you know, I lived in a world where the highest principle was fear.

What I’m afraid of and what I want. And that might seem extreme, but I think that’s how most people live. A lot of people, if they’re not in God, are being guided by what they’re afraid of. And what they want. And the culture is not neutral on this. The culture wants you afraid, and the culture wants you steeped in desire for sexual things, for material things. And you’ve brought up the tapes. And I happen to have a lot of respect for Andrew and Tristan as well. And I happen to think that. That in their case, and I’m talking about their case, not my own, that they are an example of what happens when prominent figures start to get an unregulated and unchecked audience.

Centralized media likes to be in control of what information is verified and what information is disseminated. And someone like Andrew Tay, or the most obvious example of our Joe Rogan, changed the media paradigm. And when that happened, I think people reviewed how to manage and censor information, perhaps in particular during the pandemic period, where there were a variety of opinions that were scientifically verifiable, that were shut down. Now, all of that is to say that if you don’t have a God in your life, then the state is God, or your own set of desires are God, or the avoidance of your own fears of God.

Now, when I, the Lord came to me, mate, and I’ll shut up after this, it was in a moment of great crisis. It was because my world was falling apart. Not just because of the criminal judicial matters that I can’t talk about, as you’ve rightly pointed out, and as was made clear to my lawyers in the light of recent days, like nothing was happening. My son was having heart surgery, and the whole thing was like. It was biblical. It’s like, this is what you’ve been worshiping. You’ve been worshiping yourself and your identity. Even when you’re trying to dress it up as spirituality.

You know, even as I say some of the worst things people say about me, I’ thought these things about myself. Hey, are you sure that you’re not just doing this as a hustle? What I can tell you, man, is when Christ came to me in my gut like a magnet, like, like. Like from that moment, I knew that the Jesus Christ that I had sort of heard about and learned about was real. I sort of knew it in an instant. The like that I dismissed as this is. That’s not true. That’s just a fairy story. That’s what they tell people, keep people obedient.

Oh, maybe he’s a wise teacher. Along the lines of Buddha. No. I thought, oh, my God, it happened. It happened. It actually happened. And then started to Bible, which I’d never done before. I thought I knew what was in there without reading it. And everything that I feel about corruption, everything I feel about this world being controlled by evil forces, everything I feel about needing God to be with me all the time, in the pit of my belly and at the deepest parts of my consciousness. Michael it all unfolded beautifully. Like it. It’s there in his Word that the world has fallen into the control of the evil one, that you might.

That Jesus has come here to be with us, that you may access him through the down payment. Holy Spirit. All these things like just it unfolded as I read it after that first gut punch of Jesus is real. The follow up of reading His Word was. Has armed me with the. The facts of the man. Well, I got to say this, you’re obviously a very intelligent guy, and I want my viewers to understand something, that the charges that you’re facing now date back, you know, 15, 20 years. You’re obviously at a different place in your life right now, a different person, just like me.

I mean, for 20 years I was on the street and I was a mobster in my younger days. And now, you know, hopefully I’ve turned the corner and I’m somebody else. Well, I am. But, you know, I want to ask you this because you describe this gut punch. How did that happen? Who introduced you to Christ? What made you look for him, turn to him? Very interested in that. Tell me how it happened. I’ve been in recovery for a long time, 23 years. So I’ve been clean, sober, no drink, no drugs since 13th December, 2002. One day at a time.

And that’s a spiritual way of life. You can’t live without. About drugs and alcohol if you’re a drug addict, unless you have a spiritual way of life. That’s my experience. And that’s like, that’s the groups and the fellowship that I’m a part of has that saying. That’s what I’ve taught and I believe it. And so. But what kind of can happen, I think for people that have the addiction issues is it can migrate to food and a variety of other things, and you can sort of behavioral, obviously, and like, you can live like that for a while and.

But in the end, all addiction takes you down. Now, like I was when I came to the Lord, of course, it was in the midst of everything that’s going on, the legal parts of which I cannot talk about because I’ve been warned now of the consequences of that. But like, in that moment, at the same time as what was going on with my son, I, like, I got a Dog, a German. I don’t have him no more. He died. Bear my German shepherd. I love that dog so much. Like I’d spend my time with him and anyone who’s ever really loved a dog dog.

You’ll know that there’s a kind of an intimacy with a dog that’s because it’s wordless to think about it. It’s very, very special. Like that dog. He loves me. He’s not judging me. He goes where I go. I, I live in like outside of London. Like we’re not that far outside actually. But it’s pretty green and rural. We walk by the River Thames, we hang out in fields. I watch him bound about and he’s been with me a long, long time. When I started to get a little more, you know, suicidal, like when everything got on top, when it all kicked off.

Like he’s got a particular type of dog lead like a lot of dogs have, that would tie real easy as a noose, you know. And it’ll be very easy to use that if he was going to hang yourself. In fact, that’s what was on my mind is this is where I’d go get drugs. I’d go get. And then I’d get. Book a hotel there so that my family don’t have to deal with a body, huh. And I’d use this dog lead. I’d get all high, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I was just thinking about those things, you know.

But I know that sounds dramatic to some people but that’s the sort of thing that people that, you know, some people think about stuff like that anyway. So I was like thinking about it a little and someone, a mate of mine who happens to be in a group for drug addicts who’s himself lived a pretty tough life and has had himself redeemed. His name’s Ralph. I don’t reckon it might be saying his name. He sent a video like while I was. And I was in the field with my boy that my dog and as I like, you know.

And it was like a video of Rick Warren, right, who I’d never seen before, never heard of before. And he was talking about purpose Driven life and that he was on some T evangelical show like hi. And next up it’s Rick Warren. It was like Christian tv. I’m like, what is this? I’m not interested in this. I’m clever. This is some BS right here. And like. And Rick Warren as well. Just like a normal looking guy, a little bit puppy beard and everything. He’s not like doesn’t look like a crazy prophet. That’s like, you know, got a mad story to tell or something.

Anyway, anyway, he talked about his son ending his own life right now. When he talked about that, he talked about it. I was like. I was thinking, what this. I still didn’t even know how to frame what Rick Warren was, even in my own head. I was like, if you’re a per. I was thinking, what? This guy’s sort of like a Tony Robbins style, like personal development, thought lead. I didn’t even know what the idea of a Christian was. Thinking about it in some ways, like, you know, he’s like a thought leader, influencer, sort of like Tony Robbins, who I admire very deeply.

And this guy, he’s had the worst thing that can ever happen parent has happened to him. And here he is talking about trying to sell a book. I don’t need to know anything, you know, Mate, you couldn’t stop the worst thing in the world happening to you, so why am I listening to you? And that. But when he talked about it, he talked about it without shame and with sorrow, but without, like. As if he just, this is what happens. This is life, man. This is life. And that affected me. It affected me and it contributed to this feeling in the moment of, oh, I think he’s real.

The Lord is real. I started to feel it. And I was in this field. And then when my dog died. See, one of the things I find hard, Michael, is the idea that anyone could love me so much that they would die for me, that they would take it for me, that they go, don’t worry, I’ve got Russell. Russell’s cool. I’ll take it, you know, and let alone 20, 26 years ago or whatever it is on the cross, like, you know, and as the comedian Doug Stanhope says, I don’t even get the connection. Died for my sins, you know, I hit myself on the foot with a shovel for your mortgage.

What’s the relationship? You know, like, how do these things all come together? But in that moment, in that moment, in that moment, like, I of feeling the. The truth of Christ. And then subsequently, since that channel has opened more and more, I’ve understood it because when my dog Bear died, died, you know, towards the end of this book, I’m Ryan. How to Become Christian. I’ve written how to become Christian in seven days. May take 50 years of sin and serious f ups to get started. When I, like, he died just as I was finishing the book, my dog Bear, and I was like, ruined by the death of this Dog, like, after the things I’ve been through, the heart surgery and the intense legal stuff, all of the pain, the fear, the grief, the sorrow came out of me.

And as I was putting him, we dug a hole. A couple of my mates, sort of Special Forces type guys that happened to live around here, dug me an amazing hole in the yard and we buried him deep. And I cried with mad grief. And I was drinking kombucha, that’s all I can drink these days, throwing that stuff down my neck, you know, And I was grief stricken, man. And then I realized, like as we put him in the ground that he’s a German shepherd. And I realized that he does lead me into by quiet waters and he does and green pastures and restores my soul.

And like, even though I might find it hard to accept, Jesus Christ died on the cross for me because sometimes I feel like I don’t have that kind of value. I know without doubt that dog there, he would die for me in an instant. If you went, I need you to die for Russell, I’m out. No problem. Yes, sir. Where do I stand? You know, it’s sort of like it gave me the thread. See, what I’m saying is there was the gut punch of Jesus is real. There’s the education of reading his Word. And then every day the intimacy of Christ within Emmanuel is growing a psychedelic, supernatural, bigger than life creator of life, Jesus Christ that I think cares greatly about true truth and justice and isn’t a Christ that can be put in the pocket of any politician or any ideologist or any comedian or anyone trying to sell a book or any denomination.

Like God is real. God came here in person. He’s available. Now you can’t get him if you are in sin because he can’t get you there. And sin I consider to be not the act of stealing or jerking off or punching someone in the face or lying, but the spiritual state that precedes it. If you are in a spiritual state where you’re doing or thinking about those things, he can’t get you there. You know, without sort of rapid epiphany like Saul of Tarsus style intervention on the road to Damascus, he can’t get you there. But when you are willing to turn away from that, or if you find yourself turning away from that life, the world, the fallen world, which in scripture it says is controlled by the evil one.

The way it says that in the temptations of Christ. Apostle John says it, Apostle Paul says it, notably in Ephesians, that this world, world, you’re not fighting flesh and blood. You’ll find dark powers, rulers in the heavenly realm. Don’t worship false idols now. False idols, the fake antennae, the fake frequencies that distract you from the truth of who he is and who you are. And if you. If you are willing to go, all right, I recognize the world doesn’t work. I’m not going to worship money. I’m not going to worship power. And most of all, I’m not going to worship myself.

He can come in. He can come in and you can know him. So it’s been like. And it goes on still. Like, you know, it’s pressurizing to go on Megyn Kelly and think, oh, man, I shouldn’t. I didn’t need to say that. I’ll drat. Or Piers Morgan. Oh, man, I was tired. I got irritated. I shouldn’t have done that, you know? But God tells me that’s what I want for you. Yeah, Experience that, Experience that. Take the heat. He’s using you. He’s using us the same way as what experiences he gave you. These is what he needed for Michael Frangesi to get the message.

To get the message properly and for Russell Brand to get the message. I need. Bang, that. And now I need that. Ah, I’m. I guess I take a lot of teaching. I’m not easy to teach. And what has been so crazy and so hard and I still don’t like it very much, actually, is the thought that I’ve got to follow him wherever he goes. Like, everywhere I go. This is where I want you here, now. I want you here, now. Go here. And so you’ve got sort of like it says in there, die to yourself. We die on the cross, says Paul in Galatians.

I died on the cross is Christ that’s resurrected in me. And it’s such a beautiful offering that sometimes I. Where it takes faith. It takes a lot of faith to go this world here, all this noise, all this judgment, all that excitement, all those drugs, all this sex, all this money, Donald Trump war, you know, like, it’s just a whole 360 snow globe of insanity. 247 neurological disruption. And none of it really is real unless you’re with him. And then it all suddenly becomes real. Feel in a different way. So like I’m. I recognize, like you said.

Oh, people might sort of become a Christian to be the rap. If it was like some certain time in history in some particular location where that would kind of work, I guess, in some circumstances. But no, it doesn’t. It actually holds you to a Pretty high standard. It holds you to a high standard. If your right hand offends you, cut it off. If your right eye offends you, pull it out. Don’t stare. Don’t try and take stuff that’s not yours. To be a Christian is not like, like. It’s like recognizing first of all that you were dead before.

That this world is. You’re not getting the answer there. You’re like. Even if you’re in. Whether you’re in a time of crisis right now or not, crisis is coming because you and everyone you love one day in a box in the dirt, that’s coming. So if you’re. If your view of reality isn’t going to get you through that, try another view of reality that helps you to access eternity. Eternity doesn’t just mean. Mean beyond time. It means through time. And it means a relationship with time that is very difficult for human beings to understand. But in the Eastern mysticism, I was always into before when I was, you know, coming out of the drugs and everything.

I’m much more inclined towards Krishna and Buddha and all of the, you know, the. These things, the chakras and all that. Although our Lord found his way onto my flesh, I’m pointing my tattoos for anyone who’s listening to this. Like, like in there. We. That all of the religions tell you, do not detach to the world. Don’t get. Excuse me. Do not attach to the. Detach from it. It’s not real. Don’t make it your God. Don’t make it your God. Where Christianity differs, I think, is with his explicit definition of the role of evil. The evil is present, it is real.

And I felt it. And I felt it recently. I felt it like never before. I always knew. When I was a kid, I just thought, you can’t trust school. You can’t trust all these institutions. I knew that and you obviously knew it too. Then this book shows you the Bible does. Does. Well, it’s because it’s. All these institutions have been captured by the most, you know, by definitive evil, definitive evil. What I mean by that is destructiveness, control, counterfeit, imitating God. That’s what the fallen one does. The fallen one wants to emulate the supreme principle of absolute power, absolute glory.

When I first started to understand that, Michael, if you’ll indulge in me, is in. In Luke 10:18, it is. There’s. When the disciples come back and have been healing and doing stuff, it’s after he’s told him, don’t take a bag, don’t take a Shirt just, you’re going to be on the road, it’s going to be cool. When they come back, they’re all, oh my God, you won’t believe it. We were healing people, we were doing this and that. We were casting out demons. And Christ says, I saw Satan fall from heaven like lightning, you will do many great things.

You’ll move among scorpions and snakes. But because your names are written in the book of heaven, not because of who you are, not because of who you are, don’t get into it, don’t get off on it. And I thought, why does he say that then? Why at that moment when they’ve just come back a little bit excited from healing people, is he telling them, I saw Satan fall from heaven like lightning? Firstly, Christ is saying, as is again repeated throughout the gospels and indeed isn’t a significant part of the Christian belief is that Christ is there in the beginning.

Most notably in the beginning there was the Word at the time, top of John’s gospel, that Christ is present with God the Father in creation. So he doesn’t, he’s not coming out of God. He’s present in a way that’s again impossible to understand. So it reiterates that idea. Christ does, because people often say, well, God, Christ never actually literally says I am God. He says it in a bunch of clever ways. I am the resurrection and the only way to the fathers through me. And all these things. People sometimes get into that, don’t they? Anyway, when he says I saw Satan fall from heaven like lightning, him, I see that he told them that because they were, they were on the edge of doing what Satan does.

He wants his own world, he wants his own identity. He wants his identity apart from and outside of God. Your identity and my identity is in God. When I say identity, I mean he made you. He is the author, he is the writer, he is the blind watchmaker, as the atheists would have it. He is the one that created and put everything together. And what I love as well is that we’re not trying to de person ourselves through faith, obliterate ourselves like you would with drugs or Buddhism. No, you’re like, you become 100% Michael, 100% Russell and recognize that the fallenness of Russell has to be turned, handed over.

I can’t live in that fallenness or that brokenness no more. I have a God that came here and suffered, suffered Gethsemane, suffered the Passion, knows what it’s like to be tempted, tempted to be tempted. He knows all of that. And yet he lived a Perfect life. And importantly, on this matter of seeing Satan fall from heaven, every time I think I’m in charge, I know how to do this. Which, you know, I’ll probably do again before the end of today. And I’ve certainly done it already. Today I’m falling into the mindset of Satan. Eve’s sin of disobedience is one thing, but Satan’s creation of a realm of evil is what I feel I have to be careful of.

In any event, it leads to a sort of a collapse of the meaning of all words. Because I have true faith, I will obey because I love him. And if I step out of those three things, faith, obedience, love, then I am back in that what I would call the frequency of sin and the risks therefore of sin. Well, you know, listening to you is fascinating, very profound. I have to say this. And you know, there are people out there that are going to say, you know, oh, he’s just doing this and it’s not real and all that.

You know what? Because I, I get the same criticism, you know, oh, Michael, you were born again until you got out of prison again. And this was a good way. And what I tell people is this. Listen, you know one thing you can’t do, you can’t pull a scam on God. He knows our hearts and he knows hypocrisy. And I tell everybody, if I am faking, if this is all nonsense, if this is all just rhetoric for everybody to hear, God will deal with me in a way that none of you can. And it’ll be bad because the gates of heaven don’t open for people that are hypocrites in the Lord.

And, and Jesus said that he was angry with hypocrisy when he called out the Pharisees. He said, you make believe that you’re doing all this for people, but you’re really doing it to honor yourselves. God knows our hearts and there’s no way we can fool him or pull us down on him. I want to ask you this. You know, I became a crew. A lot of people say, oh, Michael, you know, I became a Christian in prison. I became a Christian. I was baptized before I went to prison because my wife and my mother in law brought me to Christ.

However, I wasn’t in a relationship with Jesus until I got into prison. When I was at my darkest day, they threw me in solitary. The feds were mad at me, I wouldn’t cooperate. And they said, you’re going to spend the rest of your life in prison. At that moment, I saw Myself, losing my wife, the girl that I did all of this for. I walked away from that mob life because of my wife, abandoning my children, living in a 6 by 8 cell because people in my former life, if they were upset with me for walking away, I said, I’m destroyed.

Everything that I worked for, everything I did, I’m going to spend my, the rest of my life in a six by eight cell. It was the worst night of my life. So the fact that I turned to the Lord because a prison guard sent me a Bible and I threw it against the wall at first, then picked it up and started to read it. And for the next 29 months and seven days, I dove into my Bible and also Russell. I had my wife send me books in on every faith. I wanted to study every faith because you know what happened to me during that time and I think you’ll relate to this.

During that time in solitary, I developed a healthy fear of hell because as I read the Bible, hell is a real place. It’s a real place. And I caution people, we’re going one way or the other, one place or the other. I developed a healthy fear of hell the same way I have a healthy fear of drugs. I have never taken a drug outside of a prescription that would doctor gave me because my sister died of an overdose of drugs 27 years old. My baby sister, I saw what she went through. My brother was a horrible drug addict for 25 years.

I had to do everything possible just to keep him alive on the street. And how he came out of it is only a miracle, a blessing from God. I’ve seen more people. Seven of my son’s good friends in high school have died of overdoses since. And he’s 35 years old. In the last 15, 20 years, died. I hate anything to do with drugs. And I’m afraid of taking one because I may like it and I don’t want to. I don’t want to get, get there. So I believe it’s very good to have a healthy fear of things that are no good for you.

So when people say, well, you got scared and it drove you to Christ. Yeah, it drove me to first look for him and make believe that what I’m seeing was real. And I believe I say this many, many times, I’m not the best Christian. You know, there’s always a. There’s that saying, good, take the boy out of Brooklyn. You can’t always take Brooklyn out of the boy. And sometimes my head goes the wrong way. But I realize that every evil thing thought that comes into our heads comes from Satan. Every bad deed, every evil thought, it’s planted there by Satan.

So yeah, I turned to God and I searched and I found out that this was true. And I’ve told people I may not be the best Christian. I don’t live in a pattern of sin anymore because you can’t live in a pattern of sin and have a relationship with Jesus. We can fall, we can be tempted, but we always come back when we have that relationship with Jesus. And that’s what’s been my saving grace. And for the last 30 years I’ve seen people like you, I want to tell you this, I’ve seen more people come out of drugs and accept the Lord like in this church, Victory Outreach, everybody in that church and they have churches all over the world came out of drugs or a bad situation.

These are the strongest Christians that I’ve seen because they’ve learned, they’ve entered into a relationship with Jesus and now their life is not only good for them but the way they’re benefiting others. And I, I really want people to understand this. And you know what, you can have a tremendous impact on Gen Z right now. I don’t know if you know this, but there’s been a record setting sale of Bibles in the last seven or eight years and many of them to young men in Gen Z looking for purpose, looking for something more in life. They’re turning away from drugs, they’re turning away from alcohol and they’re looking for purpose and they’re finding it in Jesus Christ.

Christ. Do you think that’s a coincidence? And someone like you, you know Russell, that’s been through what you’ve been through and can talk so profoundly and I see you’re into your Bible. And by the way, I want to mention something. I know you had a lot of controversy because you’re on Pierce’s show and you couldn’t find a Bible verse. I studied the Bible for three years in the hole and sometimes I forget a verse that I went through. So that was just, that’s just the nonsense that goes on on social media. People always like to find fault and things, things.

But there’s nothing to that at all and I want people to understand that. But you can really have a tremendous impact on these young men on this whole Gen Z generation. I hope so Michael. And that’s what this book is for. It’s to, for me to try to put into the words and shapes a version of Christ that is not about submission to the world. Indeed, it sets you in opposition to the world, the world is fallen. All these people that feel like, yeah, this isn’t working for me. All of the promises of a generation or so ago of wealth are melting away as we start to see the shape of what’s really intended, it seems to me at least a kind of global order where ideas of protection are used to leverage control.

During the pandemic, it seemed to me that that was a kind of a taster t for what might be coming down the line. To keep you safe, you have to give us this authority. Now, all of us live with that to a degree. That’s the relationship between a person and the nation. I’m not sure that it should be, but it is. You pay us taxes, we’ll protect you. Now what I feel is people these days are waking up increasingly to the reality that the state is either flat out malevolent or can’t be trusted because of ineptitude.

I don’t think there’s many people in your country. Half the time, half the people like it. The other half the time, the other half of people like it. My country right now, no one likes the government at all. And this sense of a lack of trust in institutions, in particular powerful governmental institutions, and a kind of a collapse of the culture. You know, I worshiped the culture. Michael is what I worshiped. And the culture helps you to worship yourself. Yourself. I want to be famous and have money and live the kind of life that’s associated with those that offer him.

And I’ve lived it, and it’s not real. And I knew that and have known it for a while and have been talking about that for a long, long time. I’ve been talking about, you can’t trust this culture. It is not your friend. Terence McKenna coined that phrase in, I think the 1990s is the culture is not your friend. Now, what I’ve been trying to communicate, but there was always something missing until the connection with Christ, until being saved by him, until I’m beginning to this increasing understanding of who I am in him, who he is to me, that he has no favorites.

He doesn’t care about what attributes we have or lack. That in our weakness and our brokenness, he can save us. And indeed that’s how he will save us is through our brokenness and weakness. And that he has taken that on him himself. That you don’t need to business with this world no more. You don’t need to go to this world begging like the world is God saying, can you give me an identity? Can you make me valuable, you know, whether that’s through my sexual identity, my racial identity, my financial status, my status as a strong man or an attractive woman or whatever you’re getting dealt depending on what part of the culture you’re living in, what era.

No you can in who you are. Car is already packed, everything that you’re going to need. So I don’t see it as like coming to Christ actually it’s truly a message of repentance. The world has got you, it’s tricked you, it’s trapped you, it’s hypnotized you. That could be because you’re a sort of a billionaire tech oligarch. Or you could be a penniless person living on welfare or working on zero contracts. The world has distracted you from the that fact, the fact that you are not part of this world. You don’t have to be controlled by that world.

There is a way to live in the world but not be of it. One of the things he gives us is the example. He is referred to in the book of Romans as firstborn among the dead. We are co heirs with him. He dies and sort of opens up this new possibility, this new frequency which we’re thirsty for, we’re hungry for like it says in Psalm 42 too. As the deer pants to drink from the stream, we’re like panting to drink from God, looking for where is it? Where’s this thing that we’re born to know? I’m not surprised that Gen Z are turning away because they’ve tried everything else they’ve had extreme politics, extreme identity, extreme drugs, extreme consumerism, communism, fascism, all these ideas, materialism, they’re all getting tried now.

We’re like in the thrall of technology. Is technology going to save us? And we’re, are we going to combine with AI and have neuralink minds? That’s not going to work either. Anything that’s a counterfeit, anything that’s a simulation, anything that’s synthesized is of the fallen One. That is my belief. That’s not to say that technology couldn’t be used for a million brilliant things. It’s being used for a pretty good thing right now in this moment is my prayer. But if you don’t have Christ at the center, you will fall again into believing that you are God.

You will worship false gods. Therefore you will be deposited back in a place of pursuit you in mad pleasure and pointless, pointless endeavors. So look, the point of my book is to say you might think that you’re like a sort of a druggie person or A person that doesn’t accept the culture, or you’re too clever, or you’re New age, or you’re angry. But this is the. I wanted to try and write something that showed that everything you sort of already know about yourself and the world is waiting to be charged with glory story at the moment.

We’re sort of trapped in this lowness. The culture is low, and it wants us in conflict and cynicism and hatred and doubt and pick a person. You’ll find something to be cynical and hateful with anyone, if you want. You look hard enough at any individual. They’re a broken person. They’ve all done things they’re ashamed of, but that isn’t who you are or who we are or who they are. And the way back is through him. Him. So what I tried to do is write something that I would enjoy that talked about brokenness, that talked about pain, that talked about how he’s there, kind of.

He’s there waiting to be called upon. He’s there waiting to be called upon. And that strangely as well, because when I talk about politics a lot, it seems like you’re talking about something so vast it can’t be resolved. Oh, my God. It’s so powerful, this global imperialism. If they can activate programs, whether it’s via climate change or disease or war, that ultimately implement ridiculous power through the technological reach and might that they now have, that it’s not all over, actually. You in. The thing they care about most is capturing your attention and your heart. That’s the one thing that you can control.

You can choose to give that to God. You can keep your eyes on him. In the moment of fear, at the moment that you’re texting tested, you can. You can make a choice. Now, it’s best to do that with other people because certainly there’s points like even in the last 24 hours where I feel like I can’t do this no more. This is too painful. I don’t like it. I go back to that place straight away because, like, you know, take drugs out of my life. What’s the next way you get out of yourself? You know, I don’t know, man.

Once, you know, I’m a married man, I’m faithful. I don’t look at pornography, I don’t stare. I don’t do none of them things, you know. So for me, it’s either I’m with God or I’m out. That’s, you know. But it’s always been that I just found ways to defer it. Drug addiction, distraction, Money. Nonsense, really nonsense. And what this is an attempt to do is to put it in a way that they understand that this is not cow down to some meek little Jesus. This is a glorious king that’s waiting to be born in you and of you and out of you.

And the thing I want to talk about when I get to talk to Andrew Tate’s or the people in the male space place is that we’ve got to encourage good men in God. Good men in God, not men that just see everything about the bling and the money and the women and all that. That’s no, you’re still controlled by them. They can get you there. The only place they can’t get you is in Christ. Once you’re in Christ, they can’t control you. By they, I mean the empire, the system that wants you to feel small unless you’re big with them.

Them. Unless you’re big with them by their metrics, by their measures. They want to tape out what power looks like. Power looks like money. Power looks like this. The most powerful people in the world ain’t got no power. You know that. Whether it’s in the institutions that, you know, the sort of institutions you used to belong to or the most powerful institution in the world, they don’t do what their role demands. There’s a bullet coming, you know, your power is you do your part. If you’re a captain, you be a captain. If you’re a don, you be a don.

If you’re on the street, you do that. And if you don’t, it’s a over. We think it’s any different in the EU or the deep State. They do what they’re instructed to do or they’re out. The system itself has got kind of its own power and its own consciousness. And this is what I sort of mean by, and I believe what the Bible means by the fallen one is in charge of this world. The evil one’s in charge of this world. We’re all dispensable to him. He don’t care about any of us. He’ll make us an offering, a bargain.

Have sex, have money, have fame, have power attracted active at the beginning. You get 10 years down the road and you’re, oh, no, he wants us. He wants us turned off. He doesn’t even want us in glorious evil. He doesn’t want us like Adolf Hitler or dancing around in mad decadence. He wants us staring blankly at a wall in gray light switched off. And so many people are switched off, you feel it every time you go out Every time you’re on public transport, every time you hand over a ticket to something, people have been switched to off.

And it’s our role here to switch people back on because there’s a war about. It’s happening already, it’s been happening always. But I think we might be in a culminative moment. We got people, we got to switch people on to participate in this thing so they become part of his field, part of his family, part of his body, part of his church, and maybe even part of his army. If that’s is certainly one way of looking at it. Well, listen, it sounds like a very important book for everybody, but especially for those in the Gen Z generation, I would say, you know, it’s funny, people have said to me, and I want to ask you this, you know, Michael, it’s so hard to be a Christian.

It really is. And I say, no, it’s not. I said, it’s hard for you because your look at Christianity is you take the Ten Commandments, you go from 1 to 10, you say, how am I going to abide and obey all of them? That’s not what Christianity is all about. Christianity is having a relationship with Jesus. And when you’re in those relationships, the desire of your heart becomes different. You don’t want to engage in the things that you’ve engaged in before you’ve experienced that. You know, I had a conversation with Andrew who was a Christian and then became a Muslim.

And I say, andrew, why? And he said, well, Michael, I’ve watched people on the west and they don’t conduct themselves like Christians. They say they are, but they get engaged in all different things. They’re not real Christians. And I said, that’s very true. A lot of people that alleged to be Christians don’t act that way. But why would you judge a perfect God by his imperfect, perfect people? Why would you just a judge a perfect Jesus by imperfect people? And I said, look, you know, all of us in this life, we want to emulate somebody, we want to look up to somebody.

And from the time I was a kid, my dad told me, time I was five years old, you got to be a man’s man, Michael. That’s the standard you have to live up to in life. You walk down the street, you got to have integrity, treat women and children the right way, be a man’s man, man. When I got into the mob, life, same thing. We’re men of honor, women above men. So, you know, I grew up a Catholic and in Catholicism I kind of had this wimpy view of Jesus. We never really got into the manhood of Jesus.

We saw him hanging on a cross and it was kind of, and I’m not blaming Catholics, it was just the way I, I perceived it. So when I first came to Christ, I separated his manhood from his deity and I wanted to see what kind of guy he was, was. And obviously we know there was no greater man that ever walked the face of the earth than Jesus in every aspect of his character. So my point in all of this is it’s all about a relationship with Jesus. It’s not about trying to obey the rules. Is it hard for you right now to be a Christian? No, no, it’s hard to be alive without him.

You remind me of my friend Michael Emmett, God rest his soul. He found the Lord while he was serving a long jail sentence with his father. As a matter of fact, for a drug related matter, Michael Emmett, he said, you know, he was a man’s man, our Lord. He didn’t peace sitting down by his stripes. We are saved. You know, and I’m thinking about him right now that like he wants all of us and he wants us in our, you know, the, the proclamation of the kingdom is he wants the broken. He wants. He don’t like, want like not being out find a Bible verse.

Have you never looked for a quote in your life? And gone, oh, I’m not sure where that is, man. I don’t know where is that? You know, like, listen, there’s a. I’m a pre broken person and this is a, this is a faith and a path for broken people. And by the way, you’ve got to choose one because if you don’t come this way, you’re going that way. Like you said at the beginning, hell is real and a lot of people are already living in it. And what I think is interesting about our time is all of the things that seem so, so seductive.

You know, we’re similar kind of age like 20 years ago, 30 years ago. Then things don’t seem so attractive no more. It’s not working. The wheels are coming off, it’s falling apart. They can see that people aren’t distracted. Gen Z ain’t buying it. People are recognizing now whichever politician you vote for, they’re going to be a full infallible person. Maybe some are better than others, but maybe that variation depends on the kind of life you’ve had, the kind of programming you’ve received. You just want to, you want to follow a king that is real. Not a king, that is a Fallen person.

No better now. Like, since I’ve gotten more and more and more into the faith and reading the scripture, what I like is, like, when you’re reading a book like Acts or the Letters of Paul, these are. They’re men like you and me. They’re men like you and me. I think if he came back now, he’d be like, you, you go and handle this, you go and handle that, and we don’t. I don’t have to be in charge no more. I’m not in charge anymore. I think I am. Sometimes that’s a mistake. And my job, when I think he’s in charge, when I think I’m in charge, is to get back, get back, get back.

Seek thee first. The kingdom of God and all righteousness will be granted to me. Like, I get distracted all the time. You know, maybe being on them podcasts this week was a moment of distraction. Or maybe it’s my job to justify myself. Maybe it’s my point, my job to stand up. It’s not my job to do that. It’s my job to, you know, And I do feel compromised, even sell a book, like, even trying to promote a book. And I’d like. I know that I can’t profit from this, not materially, or it will taint itself, come out.

So I’ve got to find a natural, organic way in the event that I sell any enough or any like, for it to be relevant. This can’t be used to implement further sin. That’s B.S. now, you know, I mean, I’m in rich young ruler territory, me. I can’t do nothing. I gotta put it all down. Whatever he tells me to put down, I put it down. If he says, you know, hate your family, and that means, you know, in. In this instance, that probably means put Christ before family. I’m happy to do that. If he means he wants me on my own, if he wants a monastic living, I’ve got to follow him.

I’ve got to follow him wherever he’s going to go. There’s no way out. I know this because I’ve lived the life of. I’ve been poor and I’ve known luxury, so I’ve been in places of real desperation and felt God. I’ve also been in places of extreme luxury and just felt destitute, like I might as well have been sleeping in a car. This world’s got nothing else to offer me. I know that. Not only the obvious things like fast cars and fellatio, even things. Things like family. If I’m not in the right order aren’t going to work for me.

Even my beautiful children. If I’m not in the right, if I’m not with Christ, nothing works. And by Christ, I mean in right relationship to truth. In right relationship, I am a subject to a king. I’m not down here competing with everyone else for like, you know, clicks or whatever, but I forget that sometimes. And you know, it’s good to have a conversation like this, Michael, where I’m reminded because I know you know the truth too. It’s so true, whatever you said. And you know, I, I tell people this, this, you know, Jesus says no one gets to the Father except through him.

And I’ve told people this. I said, listen, you have to believe that hell is real. It’s a real place. Eternity is real. And think of the worst thing that ever happened to you in your life. Or think of the worst thing that can ever happen to you in, in your life and it never ending. Well, that’s what hell is, except a million times worse. Why would you take a chance? Why don’t you just study Jesus of the New Testament and see what kind of man and kind of person he was? Because you know what I love about he leaves.

No, there’s no gray area. You either believe he’s a son of God or you don’t. That’s it. He’s not a prophet, he’s not a good person. He says he’s the Son of God. So you either believe that or you don’t. But if he is the only way to heaven, why would you take a chance in going anyway but him? You have nothing to lose. You have everything to gain. Because by following him, everything that’s good stems from Jesus. Everything he said was good, all his decisions were proper, the way he treated people. Everything is good. So you have nothing to lose because I say this all the time.

Look, you want to be really practical. Well, if he’s not the Son of God, well, what do you got to lose? You’re dead anyway. But throughout your life, you benefited from emulating the greatest person that ever walked the face of the earth. And you know, people need to understand that. I can see that. You really do understand that. You really do. It’s not about this world world. It really isn’t. And people just have to get a grasp of that. And, and, and look, I, I’ve spent the last 30 years, you know, as best I could. I think we’re all.

It’s incumbent upon all of us, you know, Jesus, Last Command, Mark 1615. Go out and Preach or share the gospel with all of creation. And we’re obligated to do that. It’s a responsibility. And don’t ever feel bad about profiting from your work. The Bible allows that as long as you do it with the right intent and your, and your heart is right. There’s no, there’s nothing wrong with it. With that. Thanks, man. Yeah, nothing wrong with that at all. It’s. It’s biblical and we’re allowed to do that. It’s okay. You know. And you know, one other thing I want to cover and I’m sure you saw this.

We all did bad things in our life and some of us will continue, maybe not as bad as we did before because we’re walking with the Lord. But there’s a thing I used to tell people. There were a lot of good people, good men in my former life. And people have said, well, how could you do that? You guys were killers, you were murderers, you did this and that. I said, look, listen, there’s an age old question. Why do good people do bad things? It doesn’t necessarily make them a bad human being. We have influences. Sometimes we’re brought in the wrong direction.

But God knows our hearts and it’s our hearts that he judges. And I can tell you this. When I was on the street for 20 years, I did bad things. There’s no question. And I didn’t feel good when I was doing them, but I did them anyway. I was a knowing and willing to sinner. But I believe the only reason I survived and I’m here and I have a ministry is because God knew my heart. Yeah. And he doesn’t ever cause us to do bad things. God is incapable of that. But he will use those things to fulfill his purpose in our life.

He used the mob to get people in the door because they’re all attracted with the mafia and the Godfather and everything else. And they come in out of curiosity, who is this guy? Guy? And then all of a sudden they hear about Jesus. So he’ll use bad things. He’ll use the bad things that you did in your life, the bad situation, the drugs, all of this stuff, even maybe these trials that you’re going through, you know, and hopefully they work out right for you. And I really mean that. I’m going to keep. Thank you. I believe in the power of prayer and I’m going to keep you in prayer on this.

And so will my wife. And you know, hopefully God will use that to have good influence on other people. That’s what we hope for For. Thank you for them prayers. I’ll hold you in prayers as well, man. I really, really appreciate you saying that. There is, you know, there, I. I’m. I believe in justice, and I believe in truth. And from truth and justice, I have nothing, nothing, nothing to fear from truth and justice. I want justice. I want truth. This is what I want. And by God’s grace, that is what will happen. And yeah, like you, I want to stand, say, oh, man.

I want to stay in prayer. I want to stay reminded that there’s nothing left for me in this world apart from him. With him, everything can be beautiful. But apart from him, nothing is any good, man. Anyway. Well, you’re so right. I want to ask you this one last thing, then I’ll let you go. And we’ve had a good talk here. You’ve experienced, and I guess as a result of all this Epstein stuff and, and the darkness and this, this darkness, dark cabal of people that somehow control the world. And I don’t know if that’s true or not.

You know, I’ve had people on here that talk about that and CIA people and all of that. But there allegedly is this dark cabal that exists in Hollywood, exists in the entertainment industry. In your experience, does it really exist? Do you know of it? Is it. Is it something real? Because if it is, it’s pretty horrible. Horrible. But I, I, you know, from an insider’s perspective, I just want to hear what you have to say about that. I sort of think it’s everywhere, and I think there’s levels to it. I think there’s levels where, you know, in a way, I’ve put it this way in the book, actually.

Like in that Epstein world, it seems like very, very powerful people were being sexually compromised by access to the most dark, weird stuff. You know, stuff that talks about in the Bible, child sacrifice, all that kind of stuff. I don’t know why people would think that powerful people have stopped doing that now. Stopped all trying to jazz up that kind of weird adrenochrome energy. It’s difficult to corroborate, but it seems like people have always been interested in that. And the Epstein Falls certainly mean it’s hard for us to trust people in power these days. Then there’s like, the level of Hollywood decadence we’ve always known, like, that there’s been a Hollywood Babylon, they call it parties, sex parties, the casting couch, all that kind of stuff.

And then there’s like, normal people, people, right, that maybe can’t even get with women jerking off the whole Time over. Pornography, I mean, we’re all on this ladder of shame and compromise. We’re all in it. Pornography is nasty. It’s nasty to look at that stuff. Now like I’ve looked at pornography and I’ve like been involved in paying for sex and a bit. But like me, I, I was always involved in my own thing really. I didn’t ever get involved in no institutional occult, cultist thing. It’s just never. And who knows, had it been put in my path, maybe I would have done.

But I will tell you this, that there are people in Hollywood that I think have geniuses and brilliant creators. But I think the system itself might be on the whole detrimental to the spiritual well being of America. And I do sometimes wonder if that’s held together by something that ain’t got cool. But I, you know, it’s not something I’ve witnessed. Well, it’s interesting and unfortunately that’s out there and ever since it’s more pronounced now since this whole Epstein thing. I mean, I hear yeah all the time, but whatever. Russell, this has been a great conversation. I really appreciate it.

Thank you. And I look forward to getting together with you, maybe with the wives. We’ll go to dinner when I’m down. That way if you’re ever out, I’d like that. Yeah, if you’re ever out in Southern California, please look me up and love to spend some time with you. You know, I was, I was asked to come back on a speaking tour this year, but I turned it down. You know, I’m just. With all the stuff that I put on social media, people telling me I’m going to get locked up if I come into the United Kingdom.

They’re locking up people now for things that they don’t agree with on social media. Yeah, it’s weird. Highest arrest rate in the world for, you know, online, online speech stuff. It’s pretty crazy. Thank you, Michael. Thanks for your time today and I’ll speak to you. Take care. God bless and let’s for sure praise the Lord. Thank you, God. All right, my friends, listen, I always put it out there and let you decide, you know, what you think of the guest and what, what he had to say. I happen to believe he’s very credible. I really do.

And I don’t, I don’t listen to people knocking anybody’s faith because who am I to do that? People can do the same with me. And I’ve said this during our interview and I’ll say it again, there’s no gain in that for any of Us. You know, being a Christian doesn’t help you in a trial, it doesn’t help you in prison, it doesn’t help you anywhere. Where it does help you is throughout your life and in all of eternity. Because those of us that do believe that Jesus Christ is the only way to get to heaven, we have all of eternity to gain.

And for those of us that are making a mockery of that, and it’s nothing but hypocrisy, well, God will deal with. Deal with us, you know, Trust me on that. You don’t get away with that. He knows our hearts. You can’t pull a scam on God. So don’t knock yourself out by knocking any of us. Doesn’t matter. We’ll pay the ultimate price if we are, in fact trying to pull a scam on God, because we can’t do that. So listen, I hope you enjoy what he had to say. Pick up his book. You know, I’m not here to promote it, but pick up his book because he’s very profound.

And for those of you that might be struggling, you know, can God really forgive me? Can he use me? Is this real? Is this transformation real? Can I really make it do it? And you people in Gen Z, you younger people, he’s gone through a lot. Some of the same things that you might have gone through or that you might have seen your friends go through. Your brothers, your sisters, your family. Who knows? I think he could be very helpful to you. So that’s it, my friends. How do I always leave you? Same way. Never going to change.

Be safe. And I don’t want to get into all of that. We live in a tough world right now, ladies especially. Be safe, know your surroundings, be healthy. We only have one life here on Earth. Do it right. And yes, I really do mean this. God bless each and every one of you. Your family, your friends, your loved ones, communities and neighborhoods. God bless America. Because we need God’s blessing more than any time in my lifetime. See you next time. Take care, Sa.
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