32nd Degree Freemason Tells All! w/ Magick Mike

➡ Paranoid American, a unique comic publisher, has been exploring and decoding the world’s mysteries since 2012. They delve into topics like mind control, secret societies, and occult symbols in pop culture. In a recent podcast, they interviewed a high-ranking Freemason, Mike Samu, who shared his experiences and insights about Freemasonry. Mike, who is also a professional vampire (a person who draws blood for medical tests), discussed the diverse interests of Freemasons, the spiritual and esoteric aspects of the craft, and the resurgence of these aspects among younger members.
➡ The text discusses Freemasonry, its principles, and its influence on popular culture. The speaker explains that the term ‘Freemason’ signifies a person who is free and sovereign, responsible for their own life. The text also explores the connection between Freemasonry and famous composers like Mozart, suggesting that Masonic messages were encoded in their music. The speaker denies the rumor that Freemasons were responsible for Mozart’s death, instead praising him as a great Masonic brother.
➡ The speaker discusses various conspiracy theories, focusing on the roles of different groups like the Masons, Catholics, and Jesuits. They suggest that all these groups, including the ruling class, are interconnected and possibly involved in corrupt activities. The speaker also mentions their upcoming book and offers tarot card readings. The conversation ends with a call for love and truthfulness.
➡ The text discusses the life of Mozart, a renowned composer who, despite his genius, was treated as a second-class citizen due to his lack of royal blood. He was buried in a commoner’s grave, but his music was celebrated throughout Europe. The text also explores the secrets and symbolism in Mozart’s opera, suggesting that it contains esoteric secrets and allusions to Freemasonry. Lastly, it delves into the mysterious death of William Morgan, who was allegedly killed by Freemasons for planning to expose their secrets.
➡ William Morgan, who was associated with Joseph Smith, was interested in the esoteric and Masonic practices. He used these interests to develop the Book of Mormon and structure of Mormonism, which has many similarities to Masonry. The discussion also covers the gender segregation in Masonic lodges, with the speaker arguing that it provides a sacred space for men. The speaker also suggests that Masonry is a solar cult, focusing on solar energy over lunar energy, which could explain its male dominance.
➡ The text discusses the complexities of Masonry, including the concept of becoming a Mason on site, which can cause controversy. It also talks about the process of reaching the 33rd degree, which can be achieved through service, donations, or honorary recognition. The text also mentions a system with 99 degrees, known as the rights of Memphis and Misraim, which is Egyptian-themed. The speaker expresses a desire to experience this system.
➡ The text discusses the significance of numbers in Masonic traditions, particularly the number 33 and 99, which symbolize achieving immortality. It also explores the history of the Bavarian Illuminati and its connection to Freemasonry, suggesting that the Illuminati may have attracted members by offering them the chance to continue their Templar traditions. The text also delves into the fascination with Egyptian rites during this period. Lastly, it touches on the controversial topic of the Templars’ alleged use of cat butts in their rituals, suggesting it could be linked to the use of psychedelics.
➡ The text discusses various conspiracy theories and historical events related to Freemasonry, the Templars, and the Catholic Church. It mentions Leo Taxel, who claimed to have infiltrated the Masons and accused them of blasphemous practices. The text also explores the connections between Freemasonry, Mormonism, and Scientology, suggesting that these religions have influenced each other over time. Finally, it debates the idea of seeking knowledge versus remaining ignorant, with a reference to Luciferian beliefs.
➡ The text discusses the concept of blissful ignorance, using the Garden of Eden story as an example. It suggests that gaining knowledge can remove us from this bliss. The text also discusses the idea of seeking spiritual enlightenment, suggesting that it can be achieved without having to physically go to places like India. Finally, it discusses the decline in Freemasonry membership, suggesting that quality is more important than quantity.
➡ The text discusses the evolution of masons from hands-on builders to intellectual architects and engineers. It highlights how these masons, who were often Renaissance men, transitioned from physical labor to designing and creating plans. The text also mentions a debate about Manly P. Hall, a famous American Freemason, and his writings about masonry before he was officially initiated. The author suggests that Hall’s critics are simply jealous of his intellect and should appreciate his contributions to the field.
➡ The speaker, a Freemason, discusses his beliefs and experiences, emphasizing the value of reading works by Manly P. Hall and Albert Pike. He also rates various conspiracy theories and topics on a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the most believable. He defends Freemasonry against accusations of evil practices, suggesting that such accusations are a scapegoat for the wrongdoings of other institutions like the Vatican.

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Where each story, every image, every revelation brings us one step closer to the elusive truth. Hey, you, have you ever heard that Mozart was killed by the Illuminati or maybe even like the Freemasons or something? We’re gonna find out about that because we got a freaking expert today. It’s Mike Samu, AKA Magic Mike. And I heard that he’s a traveling man. And if you don’t know what that means, he is a high ranking 32 degree Mason, which is like 10 times higher than a master mason, which is only a third degree. So this dude is like 29 degrees higher than that.

And I’m gonna try and expose Freemasons live on this show. We’re gonna expose everything and we’ve got an insider. So, Magic Mike, thank you for putting it all on the line. Are you, are you risking your well being by being here and talking about some of this stuff? No, honestly, I think a lot of the brothers will actually really appreciate what it is that we have to talk about today. So I think I’ll be safe. I think I’ll be fine. Okay. We’re all praying for you. And you’ve got a book coming out called the Mozart Cipher.

We’re gonna get super deep into that. You’ve got some speaking engagements people can look. I’m gonna put all your links and in all the places that you normally see them, you’ve also got a pretty awesome substack that’s got like 50 plus articles on there and growing. So you can. If you like the stuff that we end up talking about today, you should definitely go and follow Magic Mike on the sub stack. Welcome. Welcome to, to my little like, Qanon layer here, man. I appreciate you taking some time to talk to me. Yeah, I appreciate you taking the time to talk to me as well.

It’s very exciting. Let’s get, let’s get serious here. Are you a cop? Because if you’re a cop, you have to tell me that you know that, right? I don’t think that it works that way. Well, now I know you’re not a cop because all cops know that the law. So if you don’t know the law, you’re probably not a cop. Probably not a cop, man, to be honest. Yeah. Are you, are you really a Freemason? Yeah, man. I’ve been a Freemason since 2018. Why? Well, during that time of my life, you know, I was, I was definitely interested in kind of seeking out, you know, certain, certain things.

I’ve always been really interested in, like the esoteric and, you know, metaphysical stuff or, you know, supernatural stuff where I’m from, you know, Joshua Tree, California, you know, we got all kinds of crazy stuff out there. We got the biggest marine base in the entire world is out there. So we get like uap, UFO stuff going on. We get all kinds of crazy stuff, you know, out there. There’s ghost stories of, you know, people being killed and thrown down mines and stuff out in the middle of the national park. So I’ve always been interested in, like, kind of the macabre, the weir, and also the spiritual as well.

And so, you know, I’ve always heard, you know, things about Freemasonry and about how it, you know, kind of is into that kind of stuff. So I joined, you know, partly out of curiosity, but then also because I really just felt like that in my heart, I was just ready to receive the information that was about to be thrown down. Totally unrelated question. Is there any chance you specialize in taking blood from people? You know what I do, I’m a. For my day job. Yeah. I’m a professional vampire. So, you know, when you go to, like a quest, diagnostics, and somebody stabs you in the arm and takes your blood out, that’s.

That’s me. That’s what I do. Okay. Weird Freemason that specializes in taking blood from people. I didn’t. I wasn’t expecting that. Within, like, once you joined Freemasons, did you find other people that were also into the macabre and also into aliens and UAPs and stuff? Or was it like a mixed bag or how did that turn out? If that. If that was one of the reasons that attracted you in the first place? Yeah, I would say yes and no. It’s definitely a mixed bag. I mean, you have some brothers that are super into, you know, weirder topics, esoteric topics, and then you have other brothers that are just kind of there to, you know, probably just get some good pancakes and handshakes and, you know, have a good time.

So, you know, you get. You kind of have to like, sniff those other brothers out if you’re joining most of the time masonry, their. Their whole shtick or their. Their slogan, unofficial slogan, is to make good men better. You know, and so that can mean a plethora of different things. So, you know, it’s. It is kind of a Swiss army knife kind of a group, you know, where you have all kinds of different people, people that are just interested in the fraternity, some people who are interested in making connections, which is definitely. It is great for networking, I’m not going to lie.

But then also those that are just interested, the other stuff, the esoteric stuff. Do you think that freemasonry as a craft has been diluted by social club aspects and charitable endeavors and, like, venturing away from occult and esoteric topics? Or do you think that, like, the new wave is just all about charity? You know, I think it definitely did. I think that Masonry, for a significant part of its history post World War II, definitely strayed away and kind of became just like a good old boys club. But right now, right now, it’s an extremely exciting time to be a Freemason because you have all these.

These younger guys, this new blood, you know, they were raised in a society that is predominantly materialistic very atheistic. Even if people say they go to church, you know, in their actual day to day activities and their actions, they certainly don’t, you know, act as if like they actually walk some kind of spiritual path. And so a lot of us, you know, we were raised with, you know, not a whole lot of options except for super strict dogmatic religion or just essentially just be by ourselves. And right now we’re having a resurgence of a lot of brothers that are interested in revitalizing the spiritual and the esoteric aspects of the craft.

So you mentioned the atheistic sort of mentality. Like these darn kids today, they’re always on my lawn. Yeah. As you like shake your fist at the cloud. But this new wave of atheistic zoomers, isn’t that the one thing that you can’t be to, to join masonry? Like as soon as you’re, I think it’s like 23 or something, I can’t remember the exact age, but once you’re in your early 20s, then you’re allowed to join masonry, but you got to be a dude and you gotta, you gotta also not be an atheist. I think those are the only real requirements.

Right. So what is it about being an atheist that would be incompatible with Freemasonry? Well, it depends on what kind of Freemasonry you’re going into. So there is, you know, what is called regular lodge, Freemasonry. And so that’s like the kind of like more mainstream, you know, Grand Lodge of California, grand lot, you know, United Grand Lodge of England. Those are like regular grand lodges. But there are chapters of Masonry that are out there, like co Masonry. I mean, yeah, you essentially get, get a whole mixed bag. Anybody can essentially join as long as they’re usually they, they don’t want you to be a criminal, you know, so sorry about that.

But you know, other than that, you know, you got, you got to wait until you join the jesters and then you’re allowed to do some, some criminal stuff. Oh, exactly, exactly. Especially up in the Hollywood Hills with all the Scientologists. You got it. Absolutely. Okay, so I was just going through your Instagram feed where you’ve got a whole, like, it was basically just a smorgasbord of just interesting topics. It was like charcuterie. It’s like trying to figure out like which ones you want to start with. Right. So the one that drew my attention immediately is something that you had on there and just said the Mozart cipher.

And I put two and two together. You are a super high ranking 32nd degree Masonic. Like, what do they call that? Like the super majestic king degree or something? You’re up there. The Prince of Quails. That’s awesome. Yeah. Prince of the royal secret. What is the royal secret? Can you tell us? You know what, man? I might be. I might be getting into some interesting territory here, but, yeah, I’ll tell you what. The royal secret is the actual name Freemason. So a lot of people, they think it’s kind of weird, right? Like, I don’t know, like, you got your elks, you got your, you know, you got your, you got, you got your mooses.

Yeah. So, like, why freemason? Like, why do we. Are we even called that? And so the reason why is because the term Freemason just essentially means that you don’t have a master. So back in the day, you know, if you were a, if you were a master mason, you know, you could, you could essentially be under the. You could essentially be contracted or be under the rule of. Of a certain baron or prince or whatever king, you know. So essentially a Freemason was to distinguish a master mason who was under the rule and governorship of a.

Of a sovereign person, or if they were their own sovereign person, they were free to travel, they could do whatever the hell they want. They could, you know, they could fuck off and go some. Somewhere else. Are you allowed to swear on this, by the way? This plays in kindergartens, but I’ll edit it out and I’ll put whatever I want in place of that. That’s fine. But yeah, so, yeah, so, so you could freely travel. So a Freemason essentially means that you’re just, you’re a sovereign person. So the real royal secret is just the fact that you, by your divine birthright are a sovereign person who can do anything that they want.

You know, you don’t like the way that a current president is behaving. It shouldn’t matter. You are, you are a sovereign individual. You don’t like it, change it. It’s essentially taking ownership of your own life and saying, if I don’t like the way that my life is, it’s my fault. You know, I’m the reason I’m the king of my own castle. And if so, if something isn’t right, it’s not, you know, this person’s fault or that person’s fault. It’s taking responsibility for yourself and accepting the fact that you’re your own king, you’re your own, you know, pope, you’re your own, all that stuff.

And that there is, I know what a Republican is, but what’s a Freemason? No, that’s. That shouldn’t be. That should be, like, you know, universal, doesn’t matter. Republican, Democrat, libertarian man. Everybody should just want to be free. You know, that’s. That should just be a given. It’s interesting the way that you describe that. I haven’t heard it described that way before. You make Masons sound like the OG Sovereign citizens. Like, they get pulled over on the horse and they’re like, I’m not riding. I’m. I’m traveling, and I’m traveling on light, essentially. And they’re like, oh, okay, you said the magic word.

We can’t give you a ticket. Is that pretty much how it works? Yeah, kinda. Yeah, pretty much. I mean, there has been times where I’ve been able to get myself. I’m not gonna lie, I’ve been able to get myself out of a couple tick because I have a square encompass on my ring or on my finger. You know, do they make you do a handshake when they pull you over, or do they. Do they just trust the sticker in the ring? No, they. No, they’ll. They’ll give me a handshake. They want to make sure that I’m not, you know, a Cowan or an eavesdropper.

You know, they want to make sure I’m the real deal. So. Okay, how do you prevent yourself from laughing when someone, like, tickles your palm when they’re doing, like, the magic mason shake? Is that part of the secret? It is part of. It is part of the secret. It’s being able to control every single aspect of your energetic body literally at all times. So I don’t even. I don’t do any bodily movement without, you know, without having some sort of conscious. Conscious will to do it. Okay, let’s. Let’s steer this back towards Mozart a little bit.

We can. Well, there’s plenty of tangents even within this topic. Right? So first of all, didn’t Masons kill Mozart? Isn’t it disrespectful for a Mason to be talking about Mozart and writing a book on, like, the. The guy that you personally murdered? You know, a lot of people would understandably assume something like that, so. No, definitely not. He was. He was a. He was a really awesome Mason. He was a great brother. And so I. I’m really excited to be writing a book about him. You know, it’s. It’s. It’s pretty. It’s pretty intense. We’re going to be definitely uncovering a lot of we’re going to be revealing a lot of.

A lot of secrets in the book. So I’m excited. Okay, we’re going to try and squeeze a couple out of you here and I’ll give you some of my credentials. And I just recently published a comic with my. My good friend Donut called Are you under Illuminati mind control? That’s the name of the title on the front of it. And in that book, it’s basically a whole breakdown of the Bavarian Illuminati historical, the modern day. And one of the premises I’ll spoil a little bit, but one of the premises is kind of like taking the. The most ridiculous claims of today, for example, Lady Gaga concert are all designed by Freemasons and that like the VMAs, Freemasons, the Super bowl halftime show, all Freemasons.

And it’s like, come on, what would Freemasons want to have to do? Or Illuminati? Same thing. Right? We’ll get into the nuance, but same thing. What would the Illuminati care about children and pop music? Like, why would you even want to back that? But then you go and you look at the actual Bavarian Illuminati, and there they were backing Mozart, Beethoven, Bach as child pop stars and using that as influence to like, here’s the culture and, and now in the case of Mozart and the Mozart cipher, literally encoding Masonic messages and secrets into the same music that then get perpetuated by the system, which was like the Bavarian elite, and that becomes this popular music of today.

So why, if they’re doing it in the 18th century, why wouldn’t they do it in the 21st century? It’s a good. That’s a, that’s a really good point. You know, ultimately, you know, through entertainment is the best. That’s the best propaganda. You know, some even would argue that all entertainment, really, especially today, is essentially that it’s all propaganda. So I could definitely come in, huh? Except for this show. Yes, absolutely. No, there’s. There’s no secret. I’m sure there’s no secret backing of any kind on, on this year. I wholeheartedly agree. Definitely not until the checks clear at least.

And one of the other claims in the back of this book about Mozart and Beethoven and Bach and that Mozart, he was. He wasn’t the child pop star at this time. He was kind of like a young adult into adulthood, but he was like tight homies with at least seven cataloged members of the Bavarian Illuminati. Heinrich Nepomuk, Adler, Franz Friedrich, like now ski Sweden Blaumower. I think, like he had, he had a whole bunch of different friends. That’s the guy from King of the Hill, I think Blue Mauer. And so I guess the story is that he wrote the Magic flu and inside the Magic Flute there’s either some notes in a certain sequence or maybe something that was in the background of one of the, the displays is like they’re, they’re performing this on a stage, but through multiple means.

Mozart was leaking out the secrets of Freemasonry and because of that they killed him. And everyone was so afraid of the Freemasons that no one even attended his funeral. Excep for a dog, right? Like his dog trailed this empty. That’s sort of the legend that I think I heard, you know, many, many times growing up, getting into like 1990s alt chat rooms about Freemasonry and stuff. So this is the original story. How is that not the truth? They’re like, because you were almost implying that like he left on good terms with everybody. So like what? Do you even know where that, that like funeral procession story came from? Yeah, so I mean, back in the day, you know, like we, you know, through our normal western lens and in the society that we’re raised in, you know, we have, we have a lot of like these biases and we have like a lot of these things that we have to try to kind of break through when we’re looking at historical events.

And so one of the things that kind of probably trips us out is the fact that, you know, back in the day, you know, not everybody really had, you know, their own grave, their own cemetery, their own whatever, there was what was called common graves. And so for Mozart, because he wasn’t part of the actual aristocracy, not even just like, you know, you could be like, you know, you know, a layman or whatever, you could be in part of the bourgeoisie, which is like the middle class, right. But you don’t actually have royal blood. And so if you don’t have royal blood, you’re not really going to be entitled to the same respects that you know, just a normal person, you know, person will have.

And so even though, and that’s something that Schmotzard struggled with, with whole life and in fact most of his political leanings were inspired because of how he was treated. Because even though everyone said, wow, you’re a genius, wow, you’re amazing, wow, you’re, you know, God’s gift to music, but then he was treated like a second class citizen just because he didn’t have royal blood. He wasn’t born of royalty. He wasn’t actually a member of the aristocracy. He was just kind of like their. You know, he was just there to entertain them, to keep them from killing themselves from boredom because all they did was eat, sleep and fuck all day, you know.

So, yeah, so, you know, he was. He was very. He was actually very political and he was one of those people where unfortunately, because, you know, he wasn’t born in aristocracy, they gave him a commoner’s grave. They gave him a commoner’s funeral. Now, I will say one of the misconceptions that people have is that that’s all that he got, you know, was just a commoner’s grave and some plot. We don’t even know where his actual body is or any of that stuff. But he did actually get a whole lot of celebrations all throughout Europe. So even though his official funeral was very bleak and by our, you know, by our sensitivities, really sad.

That was just common. That was just a common thing back then. They still partied it up, you know, they still, you know, kept on playing his opera. They paid his, you know, widow, you know, the. The royalties and all that fun stuff. So she was able to stay afloat. So even though Mozart, you know, obviously was given a commoner’s burial, he was definitely still celebrated. You know what I mean? Just. Just maybe not with his dead body present, you know, which personally I wouldn’t think is a very big deal, but, you know, what was the. The secret message that he encoded and how did he encode it? Can you tell us that without like, spoiling your whole book? Yeah, So, I mean, throughout the entire.

The entire opera, you know, not only within the music, because within the music you can certainly tell just even based off of, like, the key that it’s in, right? So, like, E flat, you know, that has three. That has three flats in the signature. So, like, that’s supposed to be an allusion to Masonry because everything we do is in threes, you know, so. Yeah. Does that mean that any song that’s an E flat could technically be a Masonic song? Yeah, you could make that argument, I guess, potentially. Potentially. But, yeah. So the big thing is, like, if, you know, so that’s a big key.

So like, he obviously did certain things as like, a little homage or a nod to freemasonry. But really, like, I think the. The biggest aspects like that, I would say, are like, true esoteric secrets, you know, spiritual secrets that are really only meant to be for the Initiated are in what’s known as the libretto. So the opera itself, you know, there’s the music and then there’s the storyline. There’s like the script, the libretto. And in the libretto is really like. It’s like. So it’s so full of esoteric secrets that I had to write an entire book about it, you know, so some of those secrets range from, you know, why are we here? You know, like literally just that question, like, why? Why the hell are we here? Why.

Why do we exist? What’s the answer? I assume the answer is in there for the secret. It is, yeah. And so that. That’s in there again, like this aspect of. Of reclamation of sovereignty, you know, the how to become the prince of the royal secret in your own life. That’s in there. You know, each of the characters has like, a symbolic representation. So you begin and does like, some Jungian psychology, like some Jungian archetypes also. Same thing with, with like, Joseph Campbell, you know, so we go through kind of the mythological aspect of the libretto, and we.

And we dissect every single symbol, every single thing. And some of this stuff straight up leads to the golden dawn, you know, so the formation of the golden dawn, that happened later, you know, that. That played an integral. You know, some of those secrets are actually in the libretto in and of itself. And then. And then later on, when I joined the Golden Dawn, I was like, holy shit. This is. These are the same. These are tying to the same thing. You know, they’re all trying to communicate the same thing. Now, granted, in the golden dawn, you know, you’re just given the curriculum, you know, it’s not.

It’s not a secret to you because you’re initiated, but within the libretto, you would. You would really have to. You’d really have to see it over and over and really mull it over and meditate on it before you probably were going to get it. Okay, so if the Masons didn’t kill Mozart for spilling the secrets, did they kill William Morgan? You know, I do kind of believe that it’s very, very likely that William. That. That William Morgan was killed by. By Freemasons in New York. I really do. I really do believe that they. That they killed him.

The only other thing that I can think of is that they gave him money to go up to Canada because there was some rumors that he. That they bought him off and that he went up to Canada and essentially disappeared. But then, you know, we’ll never really know for sure. Okay. There are some even more fringe theories that William Morgan never existed and that he was invented by the Masons just so that they would have sort of like something to point out, like, and this will happen to you. And they’re like, I’ve never even heard of William Morgan.

They’re like, exactly. And you never will again. And so, so the original story of William Morgan, it was a guy that claims that he was going to write a full expose on Freemasonry in the early 1800s, and allegedly he was killed by Masons. And the way that he was killed was supposed to have been done as nods to some of the blood oaths that you take in Freemasonry and that this was supposed to set an example of don’t do what that guy did. Right. That’s. That’s the official story. Yeah, don’t betray your obligation. You know, that’s, that’s one of the, that’s one of the things every, all, all of us have to swear on a, some kind of holy text.

Doesn’t necessarily have to be the Bible, but we do swear on an altar. We have certain obligations that we take. And so, you know, if he was going to be dishing out an expose. And not only that, but the dude was just also super crooked. You know, he, he was constantly in and out of debtors prison because he was a gambler and like all these other things. He loved prostitutes and all these stuff. So definitely, definitely someone that Jesus would have loved to party with. But besides that, you know. Yeah, he didn’t. He. He definitely probably got what was coming to him for sure.

We’re not going to shame the dead here. Justice for William Morgan. I also saw on your Instagram feed you had a picture of Joseph Smith. Very, very bold of you. It’s somewhat of a controversial figure both inside and outside of Freemasonry. Have you ever heard that he was married to William Morgan’s ex wife? I mean, that, that’d be crazy if he. I mean, look it up, dude. This is not just crazy conspiracy conjecture that the, the wife of the William Morgan was apparently one of Joseph Smith. I know when you have a bunch of different wives, I guess it’s like a numbers game at a certain point.

But he ended up getting, you know, just William Morgan. Yeah, I know there’s not a lot of, you know, the population was a lot less back then, but that’s still pre, you know, Joseph Smith coincidence or what, man? Ah, you know, I think that he would probably, when he, if, if he found out, if like someone like pointed her out, like at a, you Know, at a pub or some kind of social setting and they’re like, hey, did you know that that was the daughter of. So I’m sure that that would have given him a reason.

Yeah, because Joseph Smith was, was definitely obsessed with the Masons. He became a Mason because he, you know, like me, interested in the esoteric, interested in, in weird, weird stuff. And you know, it’s very possible that even through some of his Masonic connections is probably how he learned to scry and then from scrying, you know, he developed, you know, the Book of Mormon, you know, which is pretty crazy. So. And if you look at Mormonism, the way that it’s structured, even their temples, all those different things, it kind of is just kind a big Masonic ripoff.

It really is. Well, the, the magic underpants are literally just Masonic symbols from the three degrees that are etched into the clothing that have to touch your skin and that’s what makes them magic underwear. So yeah, it’s, it’s sort of Masonry all the way. Do you think that William Morgan made a cooler version of masonry for his time? I mean, the fact that number one, not only are women allowed, but you can marry a bunch of them. So that’s. That, that might be, that might be something that makes it a little bit, a little bit cooler.

It does definitely get to be, you know, sometimes lodge can be kind of a sausage fest, I’m not going to lie. But yeah, you know, I, I definitely think that, I definitely think that he took some of the things of masonry and then he, and then he definitely blew them up. You know, definitely cranked that to 11. On. On that note actually, because in Europe and in the uk, like UK Masonry is co ed now. It’s like men and women can both join, go through all the different degrees. In the US it’s still very heavily segregated.

You can join Eastern Star and then there’s like the Daughters of the Rainbow or whatever it is for like the, the girls. And then there is the, the demole chapter for like the boys growing up. But essentially, unless you go into co Masonry or a regular Masonry, the standard versions of Masonry in the US are now and have always been male only. Yep. Good thing or a bad thing? You can, you can just pick one. Good or bad? You know, I’m gonna say good. You know, there’s really not a whole lot of places where like men kind of have like a sacred space.

So, you know, you know, whenever I get, when this thing gets brought up to me, so I, I lecture every once in a while at the Philosophical Research Society, which is in, in la, you know, and every time, and I swear to God, every time that I do a lecture over there, there is at least one, usually a woman that stands up or somebody that stands up and they ask, hey, why men only? Like, that’s, it’s sexist. It’s, it’s all. And you’re like, how did you get in her. Have her removed. Immediately. Immediately. Yeah, so, so essentially, you know, my opinion is just like, you know, like when I worked at yoga festivals in Joshua Tree, you know, there was sometimes certain places where it was like a woman’s only workshop, it was women’s yoga and you know, or a men’s only, you know, meditation or something like that.

And it was supposed to be able to kind of allow people to tap into like a certain kind of energy and you know, just to feel comfortable and different things, a certain level of vulnerability that, that you’re able to experience. And you know, even though people may be like, oh, well, that’s stupid, they’ll, you know, ultimately it’s still the truth that people are allowed to have feelings, people are allowed to have preferences, people are allowed to be people, you know, and so I like the fact that it’s, you know, at least some place that men can go that is a sacred space where, you know, men of all different faiths, all different political ideologies, all different backgrounds can get together and we can mesh and we can, you know, just celebrate what it is to be a man and figure out how we can become better men.

You know, I think it’s a good thing. Okay, that’s, that’s the fraternal aspect of it for sure. Is there anything inherently esoteric or like magical that would require it to just be like male energy in a room during these magical sort of incantations or. Yeah, I mean, if you look at, I mean, think of like the amount of like, you know, in, in when you look at things from an anthropological standpoint, you know, there’s a lot of situations where you see things that are specifically goddess worship and then specifically, you know, God worship. You know what I mean? And so the ancients differentiated these powers on purpose, not because of, not because they were hyper fixated on gender.

You know, this, this, this stuff transcends that kind of thing. Really what we’re talking about is like a solar energy versus a lunar energy, you know, and so when you have, you know, when you have goddess, that’s, that’s going to be luna, you know. But then within masonry, you know, we are Particularly interested in the sun. You know, everything within the lodge. You know, the way that we walk around in the lodge, the way the lodge is oriented, the ornamentation of the lodge, it all is about mostly the sun. You know, there are, you know, we do have certain, like lunar emblems and things like that because, you know, you can’t really have the only.

Just the receptive power or, you know, the, the projective power. You also need to have some balance in there. But the, the main thing, I would say masonry essentially is a solar cult, you know, if you really want to get down to brass tacks. So, you know, the fact that it’s a solar cult kind of means it’s. It should be primarily men in that regard. Now does solar. Solar cult’s a great term. I’m glad that you use that, Nami. So if freemasonry is a solar death cult, and I threw the death part in there because there are, I guess, obligations that you make that condemn you to death.

Right. Are you allowed to talk about any of those? Yeah, I mean, like, you know, I can’t. I can’t go word for word into the obligations necessarily. Even though every other word, we replace every other word with skibidi and then toilet. There you go. Gosh, man, that would be. That would. That would be a mental exercise because these, these obligations, they’re long and you have to memorize all this stuff. So, so it would be. That’d be a very difficult mental exercise. What if you’ve got a really bad memory? Like, what if. What if you have all the criteria to be a great Mason, but for whatever reason you’ve got a medical issue that you don’t.

You can’t memorize things. Are you just screwed? Are you just never going to be a brother? I mean, you. They do have what is known as, like the shorthand or like what is known as short form, you know, so like, we do allow. But you have to at least be able to do the short form. You know what I mean? Like, you at least have to have that capability. Otherwise it’s, It’s. Yeah, probably. Probably not. There is a certain thing in the obligation about not allowing. Not allowing certain people that are like, like, you can’t be completely senile, you know, so, like by.

So Biden should have never become a Mason. Technically. No, I’m just kidding. Was he. Did he become a Mason? Well, so there’s a Catholic. Well, yeah. So like, that’s, that’s the weird thing is Prince. So Prince hall, you know, so, so Prince hall, for Those of you who don’t know is like African American Freemasonry. So essentially back in the day when, you know, some lodges, especially down south, were not cool with, with African Americans in their lodge or especially like, you know, people who had been slaves or freed slaves in their lodge. So they, they made their own.

They made their own thing. It’s called Prince Hall Freemasonry. And so in Prince hall, they have this thing called on site. Being made a Mason on site. And so the Grand Master of, of, of a jurisdiction of Prince hall, they can essentially just make someone a Mason on site, which I think is, It’s. To be completely honest, I, I think it’s one of the stupidest and silliest things that we, that we even. I can’t believe that we even have that, you know, but that’s just my own. And so only Prince Hall Masonry that’s allowed to do on site.

Yeah, so by Biden, that’s what happened. He, he met with the grand. The grand master of one of the Prince hall jurisdictions. And the guy made him amazing on site. And I was just kind of like, all right, all right, dude, for sure. Like, I mean, honest question here. If someone’s like, I’m an, I’m a Prince Hall Mason, do you have to say I’m an on site Mason or you just get to be a Prince Hall Mason, period. And you don’t even have to let. Is it like Barry Bonds and the Baseball hall of Fame and then it has like a little asterisk at the end of his name? It’s like.

And steroids, right? No, so I mean like most prince. So like, if it’s a Prince hall jurisdiction that, that your Grand Lodge as a Mason considers regular. No, they don’t have to make any kind of distinction. It’s just they’re a bro, you know what I mean? Like, they’re, they’re a brother. They, they’re, they’re part of a regular now. But if they, you know, if they were made a Mason on site, you know, and somebody was to know, like we, one of us was to find out, I’m sure it would definitely, you know, ruffle some feathers. You know, some people would probably be like, oh, well, that guy’s not a real Mason, you know, really.

But wouldn’t be becoming a Mason on site like that. This is new to me. I didn’t know that this. I almost feel like, kind of like how Mormons can like baptize you after you die. Like, you don’t get a, you could just Start going around and like someone that just hates Masons. Like Masons are controlling the world. You could just be like, and you’re now Mason, but no take back funny dude. Honestly, like that would be pretty great for just the Grand Lodge or for the, the grandmaster of Prince hall to be like, and the entire world is Masons on site like now, like the whole thing is a fucking moot point.

Do you have to have to like direct? Because I am aware that during COVID there were some like Scottish right, where people could be promoted through all the different degrees and you could just log into like a website and pay attention and maybe answer a questionnaire and then bam, now you’re 32nd degree Mason. So does that mean that technically you could be on sited in like a zoom call too? Or do you have to like go to a lodge and dress up and like put on a funny hat? Man, you know, honestly, I’m not super sure.

You know, thankfully we don’t have that out here in California, so. Well, my next question is like, can you just on site me right now? But I guess you don’t have that power. You don’t have that power. Is that, is that what you get when you get 33rd degree? And like what are you waiting for? Why, why are you getting held back? You need, you got to be a grand master. And that takes some time. That definitely takes some time. And it takes a lot of, it definitely takes a lot of networking in order to, to make it there.

So I don’t know if I’ll ever be a grand master. That sounds like a lot of probably a grand organist. That’d be fun. So you have to have heard at some point in your entire life, either before or after joining the Masons, that in order to truly get to the 33rd degree and, and once you hit the 33rd degree, then you find out that like all the other degrees, they’ve all been getting lied to. And in the 33rd you have to, I think, admit that Lucifer is God and you have to like worship Lucifer or something.

Have you heard any of these accusations before? Yes. So. Okay, well you don’t actually know though because you’re not 33rd degree, so. No, technically I’m not. What I’ve heard is, is that you have to. There’s a rumor that you have to spit on the cross that you have to spit on the like a crucifix of, of Jesus Christ. Done. Got one right here. Right. What’s Next? Now you’re 33rd. That’s it. That was so easy. Man, yeah. All these Luciferians running around, you know, with the. Under the Satanic temple, they’re all thirty thirds, you know. So what I’ve heard you, you kind of alluded that it takes a long time.

I think it’s like 34 months of service to the Scottish Rite Lodge. But there’s also some fast tracks. Like for example, I believe before he was controversial, like Kramer from Seinfeld, he was Scottish, right? And then he gets famous as Kramer and they’re like, now you’re 33rd degree because you’ve kind of elevated the, the view of the craft to all these new people. So there’s like honorary versions. I’ve heard some variations where you got to make like a 300 or 200 thousand dollar donation to something and you kind of, you grease the palms a little bit, secret handshake, and you slide a couple hundreds in there every once in a while.

And then that’s one way to get it. And then the other one is just like doing the actual work for 34 months. It seems easier to just buy your way into it or just become like a, like a celebrity. Yeah, 34 months doesn’t sound long to me. Becoming a celebrity and selling your soul sounds. Sounds way, way worse. But you know, I would say like the, the, the 33rd degree title, from what I’ve been told, it’s essentially honorary, you know, so you don’t. So the big thing is that like you, at least you, you are part of, you’re an active member of the Scottish Rite, you serve, you’re part of like the, you’re part of the degree team, you’re part of these things.

And that’s essentially how you, most people will become a 33rd when it comes to that. You know, that’s almost like the same thing as the on site Mason thing, which sucks. But I mean, it does happen. Where. And because the big thing, right, is in magic and things like this, the big. There’s a term that’s thrown out there a lot which is called the fulfillment of the great work. You know, there’s a big thing, and that’s even within the Scottish Rite as well, because so a lot of the stuff that we hear in magic, a lot of the same terms can be found in these other groups.

And so like the fulfillment of the great work is essentially like, have you fulfilled your life’s purpose? Or at least have you done something that would show the world? This guy obviously is master of his own will. He knows how to get shit done. And so that’s essentially what Happened to this, you know, like Kramer from Seinfeld, you know, he showed like, hey, I know how to make my way in this world. I know how to essentially have a thought and turn that thought into an actual, like physical thing. You know, whether that would be a TV show, whether that’s a charity, whether that’s a multi billion dollar corporation or whatever it is, you know, if you essentially show, hey, I know how to.

I have control of my life. I have ownership of my life. And just through the fruits of my labor, you can tell, you know, that I. That I know what the hell I’m doing with my life. That in and of itself is enough to get an honorary 33rd degree titles. Sometimes, you know, it’s just, you know, like Jimmy Page or something like that, you know, that. That guy would. He would. He would get a 33rd. It’s like almost like getting an honorary doctorate, you know, Even though he never went to school, he never did any of those things.

The, you know, Jimmy Page, for example, he knows how to play guitar. So the fact that somebody gave him a doctorate in music, you know, makes. It just makes sense. The dude doesn’t need to go to school. He is a master. You know, he’s proven it just through the fruits of his labor. So same idea. Okay, is there something that comes after 33rd degree? Like, what’s the next one? Really? What’s the next step? So, I mean, there, there is a. There’s a degree system out there that’s 99 degrees. And it’s called the rights of Memphis and Misraim.

And so those degrees are essentially. They’re very Egyptian in their aesthetic. And that’s kind of their whole get down is the. The Egyptian rights of Cagliostro along with the rights of Mistraem. And they just kind of put them together and had like this like megazord of masonry. That’s 99 degrees. It’s pretty. It’s pretty intense. I haven’t been able to experience them because they’re only on the east coast, but I. Or in Europe, but man, that’d be super sick. To be a 99 degree. That’d be pretty badass. Okay, let’s try this again. What comes after the 99th degree? And I know there’s higher ones, so let’s.

Come on, let’s keep going. Yeah, I don’t know. I’ve never heard of anything past 99 degrees. 99 is the limit. What do they only have two registers? Like, they didn’t have that third slot. Well, it’s all Numerological, you know. So, like, the whole thing with 33 is that is, again where, as Masons were obsessed, right, with the number three. You know, that’s our big thing is the number three. And so what is. What is the enumerated 33? It’s three times 11 and 11, essentially, when you get to the number 10, right, that represents completion. Number 11 is the start of transcending the end for immortality and replacing that end with immortality.

So 33 is. Is essentially a way of saying that I have achieved immortality thrice. I’m the thrice greatest, you know, and I’m, you know, thrice greatest of the grand pubas and all that fun stuff. So that’s really what that means when you’re looking at these systems. It’s, you know, it’s. The number that’s chosen isn’t just arbitrary. It has a numerological or gematriic root that has magical power, has meaning. So at 99th degree is like three times 33. So it’s like three times as, right? So they’re just like, oh, we’re gonna take your. We’re 33. We’re gonna cube it because, you know, or, you know, because obviously that’s.

That’s what’s gonna, you know, be better, you know. So, yeah, essentially. I’m glad you brought up the. The 99 degrees and the rights of Memphis Misery. This. This one’s interesting because, okay, there’s two different angles here. The first one, and this one is totally allegedly. But when the Bavarian Illuminati started to fall out of favor because they got exposed, I believe it was Kennedy that put together all these different degrees that were supposed to be, like, enticing the existing Freemasons, because the Bavarian Illuminati. Correct me if any of this is incorrect, but my understanding is the Bavarian Illuminati, they’re around right around this time of the.

The convent of Wilhelmsbad. And during the convent, Wilhelm’s bad in Bavaria, you had a whole bunch of Freemasons that were larping as knights Templar, essentially, like swords and outfits and fancy degrees and titles. And it caused a rift within the Masons because some of them were like, guys, you look silly. You can’t prove the lineage. Let’s cut it out, because no one’s taking us seriously with you larping with, like, your. Your Ren Fair gear. So they kind of all get together and they’re like, all right, no more larping and Ren fair gear. We don’t want to look silly anymore.

And then The Bavarian Illuminati was like aha. Like we, we send some disenfranchised LARPers. So they go up to all these LARPers and they’re like hey, you can bring your sword and your outfit to our lodge. Like we’re still doing it, we’re still, we still run with like the Templars. So like leave your lodge, come to us and you can keep larping out your heart’s desire. And by the way, we’re way cooler than them anyways. We’ve got all these like high ranking members so they, they kind of bolster their numbers with all of these ex Templar LARPing Freemasons.

And then when the Bavarian Illuminati gets discovered, all these Mason, they’re already masons, they just go back into their lodges. But they go back into their lodges with all these new degrees that have been spelled out and dot dot dot, two years later you’ve got rights of Memphis misery which kind of erupts out of like this European elite group that seems like it might be a modern continuation of the original Bavarian Illuminati degrees. Is there anything to that? Is there any meat on that bone? Yeah, I mean you have to remember the, probably the biggest thing is like how obsessed with Egypt like everybody was at this time.

Like that was like the big thing was so like you had some way of being able. So even bigger than the, than the Knights Templar. You know, everybody wants to, you know, obviously they love the Knights Templar and all that stuff. But what I think that they were even more obsessed with was the Egyptian rights. Everybody loves and wants to experience, you know, these Egyptian rights because they think it’s the oldest thing we got. You know, now we know that that’s not true because now we have you know like the library of Asher Banner Paul and stuff.

So like, you know we know that there’s, there’s stuff that’s way older than Egypt. However, I will still say Egypt just is just absolutely fascinating. And so it just makes sense that these guys would, would gravitate towards this stuff and that they would be obsessed about it. And in fact the, the main connection that Mozart had to the Bavarian Illuminati, Ignis von Born, you know, he wrote kind of the book on literally he wrote like a, like a, like a pretty long article. It’s like 100 and something, 177 pages or something crazy like that. But he wrote a whole thing on the Egyptian mysteries.

And so that was even more important. That was even really like what made people just Go completely crazy and just love these illuminist lodges was the fact that they. They were said to have ties to Egypt. That’s really, like. What people were really getting hot and bothered about was the Bavarian Illuminati. Just a Marxist psyop movement by communists. I don’t believe. You know, I don’t believe so. I don’t. I don’t believe so because a lot of, you know, Marxism, again, tends to kind of lead. You know, the whole thing is kind of. It’s almost like taking Hegelianism and then kind of flipping it on its head, right? So Marxism, to me is like pretty material atheist, you know.

And so a lot of these guys, you know, the way that they. That they write, man, and some of their letters to each other, they just don’t sound like atheists. They definitely don’t sound like a Catholic, I’ll tell you that. But they’re. They definitely don’t have a. They don’t seem like that they’re atheists. They’re almost like the OGs of the. I’m not religious. I’m spiritual. Like, you know, they’re kind of. Back then. So I don’t know. I don’t know about the whole Marx. I’m sure that there were, you know, some. I’m sure that there’s some infiltration.

There’s infiltration when it comes to any of these things. They. They’re gonna blend, they’re gonna bleed together. But I do believe that a lot of these. Of the illuminous masons, that they really, truly were. They consider themselves almost like high priests, you know, in very many ways. You know, magic requires a certain level of piety where you. And I do believe that you. It does kind of require a belief in the supreme being of some kind. So I would say that Marxism would probably be kind of a difficult thing since, again, it is pretty materialistic of a philosophy.

A lot of these guys had humanist philosophies, but they definitely still had some kind of form of deism or something like that going on. What do you think the Templars were doing with those cat butts? I don’t know if I’ve heard about that one. I’ve definitely heard about Templar. I’ve heard a lot of weird stuff about Templar, but not about. Okay, one of the. The accusations was that they were kissing cat butts as one of their blasphemous actions, in addition to spitting and urinating on the cross and worshiping, you know, an idol of Baphomet. But they were kissing cat butts You’ve never heard this one.

I’m glad. I’m. I hope that I can introduce you to this, this new, this new path that you can maybe take up. Are you York, right? Are you just lying about not knowing about this because you’re York, right? That’s so funny. You know, I, I have done the York ride in the Cryptic Council, but of course, of course. Okay. I didn’t finish the commandery. I never, I couldn’t get into because I did. I did hear that you do have to like swear some allegiance to defend Christendom and things like that. And even though I consider myself a mystic Christian, I still haven’t, I still haven’t really done the commandery.

But, you know, when it comes to the kissing of the butts, you know, I wonder, because one of my favorite things to kind of dive into is the use of psychedelics, you know, in this kind of stuff. And so I wonder if they were doing like, you know, that south park episode go like one of the first south park episodes when they were cheesing. You know, when everybody’s cheesing because they’re, because they’re getting high off of like the urine or the pheromones of cats. So they’re like letting cats like piss on their face. So that almost, you know, would make sense in the sense of, you know, you know, using entheogens, using the cats as entheogens to get really high.

And then you have like this like, you know, God self realization experience pretty quick. Yeah, the, the, some of the explanations for that have been toxoplasmosis that they figured out how they could. They were basically cheesing in the, in the lodge room. I guess that’s great. You know, I might try that one of these days. I think we’ve, we’ve developed technology that’s advanced a little bit beyond that. You could probably go and get some K2 at the corner store. It’s probably better than sniffing a cat. I don’t know. So speaking of cats. So, I mean, okay, well, yeah, you’ve already, you’ve already got the ingredients.

You’re a Templar now. That’s fine. So speaking of the, the Templars and their blasphemous practices and worshiping Baphomet there were all. And talking about Catholics. This was also brought up again in the 1800s by a well esteemed scientific person named Leo Taxel who proved he infiltrated the Masons, or he had a friend that infiltrated the Masons and he proved that they were still Spitting on the cross and that they were still worshiping baphomet and some leverages of like human sacrifice. Are you calling this man a liar? Well, I mean he called himself a liar, so I don’t really have to do.

He already did it. But if, but if he says that he’s a liar, can you trust him? That he’s a liar? Well, I mean if this, the fact that he was a Mason, half most people would probably say I can’t trust him anyway because how can I trust a word that he says or words that he said that he didn’t say or whatever, you know. Well, so, so this is a, this was a real thing that he, that this guy wrote an expose and he, it got all the way to the Vatican and he shows up at the Vatican and they’re like, where’s your source? And he pointed out his typewriter and he was like haha, I got you.

But th. This. And I think it was called the Mysteries of Freemasonry. If once you translate out of France, but even right now, if I, if we, me and you, if we just like pull up Instagram or YouTube or like some social media and scroll long enough under the hashtag Freemason, you’re gonna see images from his original books which are now over a hundred years old. This is the 1880s. What do you think it is about this particular claim that worshiping Baphomet and sacrificing humans. What, what is it that makes that such a sticky claim, specifically with the Freemasons? Well, there’s just a really, really long history, you know, of, you know, there’s a lot of documentation regarding like the, the Inquisition, you know, especially, you know, all of these, all of these things kind of come from a lot of the papers of the Inquisition where they would essentially they would get a Mason, you know.

So for example, like Cagliostro, right, Like Count Cagliostro, he was a Freemason and he was essentially murdered by the Catholic Church just because he was a Freemason. He really didn’t, there really wasn’t any other reason. And when you look at those docum, you know, when they’re talking about how heretical that he is and all the, the evil sorcery that he’s performing and everything like that, that kind of tends to fall by the wayside. What his real crime was to them was the fact that he was a Mason. But, and so a lot of these, these stories, we have to remember, they were essentially confessions of people who were being tortured by the Inquisition.

And, you know, I don’t know if you’ve ever under underwent torture, at least not, not in a sexual way, you know, but. But if you’ve ever undergone torture, you’re gonna say whatever the hell is necessary to get. To get out of there. Not me. I would never lie, even under torture. Oh, well, you know, unfortunately, a lot of people would. You know, a lot of people, they don’t. They don’t make it. They can’t. They have. They have no morals or ethics is what I would say. I know it’s pretty. It’s pretty messed up, but. Yeah, man, honestly, like, like most of.

Most of the stuff that we know about, about Freemasonry was, you know, essentially confessed under torture by the Inquisition. So, you know, you really can’t, you know, I, I don’t trust. I don’t trust the Catholics. And then, you know, I, I don’t really trust. I don’t. You know, you really can’t trust Mason. So it’s like, well then how. Who can we trust at this point? It is. I mean, if you can’t trust the Catholics and you can’t trust the Masons, then you’re screwed. Like, you gotta. In my mind, you have to pick one of those two or you make your own religion.

Nick called Mormonism. And you are? Joseph. Okay, I’m just kidding. I. I like, often I’ve slowly evolved into thinking of Mormonism as cowboy space pirates because essentially they started out literally as cowboys in the Wild west with guns and like funny hats and. And the whole thing, like riding horses. They were absolutely cowboys. Also one of the only modern religions outside Scientology, which I think is also directly connected to all this, that acknowledged planets and even talked about people living on the moon, like interdimensional or intergalactic people. I think they were like Amish people on the moon.

Joseph Smith wrote about. But like, so they talk about cowboys, they talk about outer space and they’re kind of pirates because they’re hunting for treasure constantly. That was Joseph Smith’s number one job was hunting and like looking in old caves for treasure chests. Yeah. And finding like the balloons and stuff or. Yeah, just. Just straight up mining gold, you know, just straight. Just, you know, raping and pillaging the West. They did a great job. But, you know. Yeah, I mean, like, and. And it’s. And again, it’s crazy, you know, the amount of. The amount of stuff that’s in the, in the, you know, in Mormonism that again, as a, as a Mason, you go, holy crap like that.

That totally Connects with, to, to lodge. Like, you can see where he’s, you know, picking these things from. It’s pretty wild. So, I mean, possibly an improvement. So let me, let me also wind back though, like, the connection of Mormonism and Scientology, because I think that Aleister Crowley even wrote about Joseph Smith being like an at, like a prodigious sort of occultist, that he kind of respected his game a little bit. And so Aleister Crowley being inspired itself by Joseph Smith and then Aleister Crowley’s teachings essentially forming the basis of Scientology through Jack Parsons, and we’re on Hubbard.

You could almost say, like, you don’t get Scientology without Joseph Smith, and then Joseph Smith being absorbed by Aleister Crowley, of all people. And then you get Scientology and then from there you also get like the Church of Satan and Anton lavey and all this. So there you go. I’ve just connected Freemasonry to Satanism. Done. Essentially. Yeah. I mean, that gets very. That’s. That’s a perfect way to put it, man. Absolutely. And, and honestly, it’s pretty wild, you know, how, how all of these different, you know, influence that. All of these things influence each other. And I think that that’s kind of one of my favorite things about masonry is that a lot of us that are interested in the esoteric aspects of the craft, we definitely go down the rabbit hole as far as comparative religion.

And so you eventually reach this point, you know, where you, you essentially have to decide if you’re going to become a perennialist or not. And the perennials, like our idea is that there’s a clear white light of wisdom that’s been passed down through the ands. Now, granted, it’s experienced a hell of a. Of a telephone game, you know, if you, if, you know, as it’s gone through the ages. But even, you know, even the, you know, crappiest religion, you know, if you were really to do some alchemy and distill it down to its absolute, like, you know, core, you’re going to find the light, you’re going to find true wisdom, you’re going to find truth.

You know, there is no religion higher than truth. And that’s ultimately what they’re trying, What a religion is trying to say, right, is that, hey, I, I know the truth. You don’t. Those guys don’t. I do. And so, you know, it is interesting to see how this, how this clear white light, how this ancient wisdom, this truth has been essentially changed and, and distorted and perverted and then purified again and then distorted and you know, perverted. Again, it’s. It’s pretty interesting. All this talk about light and, like, seeking light. This is very Luciferian, right? So isn’t there.

Isn’t there another perspective here, that being ignorant is maybe the best thing that you can do? Like, the. The most honorable thing is being ignorant, because it would not be Luciferian. It would be like Jesus, take the wheel times a hundred, right? Like, if, like, I fully believe in, you know, Big J, and the Big J is going to always steer me, right? So why do I even need to learn about any of this? Yeah, I mean. I mean, how I see it is that. Is that the. The Luciferian aspect of things has definitely been, like, just distorted.

It’s been. It’s definitely. It’s definitely been something that has been misunderstood by a lot of people. But I do, you know. Yeah, the whole Garden of Eden story, you know, is essentially like this idea of living in the bliss of innocence and ignorance, right? That’s the whole point of the allegory of the Garden of Eden, right? Which is when we first meet Lucifer, even though he’s not called Lucifer, he’s this. He’s the. He’s a serpent of some kind. He’s supposed to be like the. You know, he’s like the fallen angel Samael. So that’s. That technically may not even be Lucifer, just depending on what you’re studying.

Studying. But yeah, I mean, that’s the whole point of the Garden of Eden story as it’s trying to teach us, right? Just right from the very beginning, you know, even if you don’t make it very far into the Bible, at least if you’re reading that first story, it’s teaching you that once you have attained knowledge, any knowledge that you acquire, any. Any knowledge, any wisdom that you acquire ultimately is going to remove you from the bliss of ignorance, you know, because there is. There is a certain bliss that comes with not knowing. You know, there’s a really funny quote that Duncan.

Duncan Trussell once said. And it was like, oh, I feel so bad for the guy who’s sitting on a. Who’s sitting by a waterfall right now with no cell phone, no tv, no electronics, no nothing. I feel so sorry for that guy because he has no idea just how horrible the world is. You know, he’s over here, you know, some big idiot, you know, admiring the creation and enjoying this blissful waterfall. And, you know, all of us over here, we really know what’s going on. You know, feel sorry for that guy. When in reality, I feel nothing but envy for that person, you know, so well, he, he’s almost a cipher from the matrix, eating the steak, right? Like if you’re over by your waterfall and you’re not doom scrolling Twitter and you don’t know that someone was just assassinated, then doesn’t that mean that you’re basically cipher from matrix? Like you like, put me back in and give me a big steak.

Like ignorance is bliss. Yeah, I mean, like, you know, in a sense, yes, absolutely. And so I think that that’s why, you know, in the, you know, in the spirituality community that I’m a part of, there’s a lot of people that are just like, man, I would just love to just like drop out, become. And I’m just gonna become a monk and then like, you know, off to India or wherever and I’m just gonna medit time. And you know, that totally, you know, defeats the. That’s, that’s not the point. Right. The whole point is that we need boots on the ground.

You know, we need good people. That’s why masonry, I think is so badass, is because like a scent, you know, if it’s doing its job right, we’re putting boots on the ground, good people that are going to be out there doing good work for others rather than sitting up in a monastery, you know, somewhere, you know, saying, oh, money pad me home for, you know, eons. So two questions. One, the motor media one, why do you got to go to India to meditate? Can you just like meditate where you’re at? That seems like a lot of effort to just sit in silence.

Yeah. And also, you know, I don’t think that most of us would be able to last even a, a couple of hours in certain, in most places in, in India, you know what I mean? Like, we would, we would lose it. We wouldn’t be able to hang out. But yeah, that’s always a silly notion. I mean, people can, can meditate and achieve mindfulness and enlightenment and all that stuff just from the comfort of your, of your own place. You don’t have to drop out and go to India or Nepal or whatever. You definitely shouldn’t go to Nepal right now.

The other thing you were talking about is like, if maybe if there were more Masons, if they were doing their job right, they’re like improving the world. Not, not to be just like an absolute pessimist naysayer, but if you pull up a visual graph of membership rates of Freemasons from 1950 to 2020, it basically looks like a cliff that you would fall off of and die from. Like, it’s not a gentle, like, decline. It is a steep, steep drop. And it almost feels like way beyond the point of no return. Like, if this were Al Gore talking about climate change, like, there’d be a dead polar bear at the end of this chart, essentially.

No. Yeah, I mean, you know, some people would see it that way. You know, I’m on a. I’m on freemasonry. Subreddit. Subreddit. Probably a little bit too much, but that’s like a big thing in there, right? Like, there’s this constant thing of like, oh, well, we want to increase membership. We need to revitalize the craft. We need to increase membership. And then there’s the rest of them that are. That, you know, a lot of us that are just kind of like, no, you know, we would rather have of small membership but have really good quality guys rather than having a bunch of guys but like, you know, 60 of them are.

You know what I mean? Like, that. That doesn’t serve anybody. So, you know, personally, I’m not. Again, these pay their dues, you know, they do pay their dues, but again, it’s like, you know, we have to ask ourselves, what’s more important, you know, is. Is it just. Is it just paying? Is. Are we just here to. To pay dues and, you know, show up for stated meeting to discuss bills and, you know, go to charity pancake breakfasts? That’s not what I joined masonry for, man. I. I was. I’m a seeker. I’m looking for, you know, something that’s way deeper than this just material, you know, shit that we got going on.

You know, it’s fair. Although you can be a seeker and also want working air conditioning in your lodge. That is true. And that’s why it does take a certain level of balance. You know, one of the big things about masonry is trying to achieve. Achieve a sense of balance in your life. We have these things that are called the three great lights, or, excuse me, the three lesser lights, the sun, the moon, the master of the lodge. And the whole idea is that if you’re the master of your own lodge, you’re going to have a balanced sun, you’re going to have a balanced moon.

You’re going to be essentially the reconciler between these two forces. And you will be able to essentially bring a certain level of equilibrium to your life and to the lives of others. So that’s the goal of the esoteric Mason, is to become the great reconciler, to become Mercury, you know, so you’re Kind of describing speculative Masonry right now. And just to point out some. Some of the, I guess, surface level, what would appear as hypocrisy just because the original operative Masons, at a certain point, it was like they’ve built all the freaking castles and cathedrals that they’re going to build in this area.

And even if they’re allowed to travel outside their little town and go and build this other thing, at a certain point, if you keep passing new masons, it’s saturated and all the buildings have been built and all the money’s run out, and now it’s like, oh, how do we keep this Masonic brethren going? Especially since we got people dying, we got to pay out their kids and their families. So the. The operative Masons were like, all right, well, I got this rich money bags, you know, guy in my town here, and, man, he really wants to be a Mason.

So maybe we can make like a special kitty table masonry where you don’t accidentally hurt your thumb, you know, putting in nails or whatever. You’re not going to accidentally drop the big pillar on someone and they’re going to be an operative guy. They’re not going to do anything. They’re just going to kind of like observe and talk about it. And then at a certain point, those operative guys became so required in order to just keep the. The funds, right? Just like, keep everything going that it overtakes the operatives. And I can almost imagine the operatives on the way out, like, you guys don’t know real Masonry, and then they’re gone forever, right? And now you’ve got these operative Masons, and then like, a new wave coming in where it’s like, shaking fist at cloud.

But, like, even op. Even speculative Masons themselves have already lost part of, like, the original point of, like, operative Masonry. Do you think there’s, like, something major missing? The fact that you’re not out there building castles and cathedrals? Are you, like, missing out on, like, the real secrets? Well, and no. And the reason why I would say that is that is that even though in labor, you know, you do achieve certain understandings of things. I think that one of the things that we have to realize is that, is that there are still, you know, operative. There’s obviously still operative Masons out there.

You know, it’s. It’s. It’s a little less common, you know, obviously, because the materials that we use are vastly different. The way the things are done is just vastly different. But there are still operative, you know, operative Masons that are out there. They’re restore they’re the ones that restore these cathedrals and things like that. But what essentially what happened was not even necessarily that, you know, oh, like, we got a money bags guy. We’re gonna bring him in. A lot of these people, they were Renaissance men. So a lot of the early speculative masons would have been able to do a lot of engineering work.

So not necessarily sitting there and, you know, doing the grunt work. You know, master masons, even in the operative sense, they. They were the ones that drew up the plans. They’re the ones that are doing the geometry. They’re the ones that are the engineers and the architects. But they didn’t actually have to. Once they reached a certain point, they didn’t have to work in the quarry anymore. You know, they weren’t, you know, felling trees in the valley of Lebanon anymore. They were able to finally, you know, transition to being an architect and to design and create these plans.

And so that’s really what happened was that you had these operative architects and engineers that were rubbing elbows with, like, scientists and, you know, other. Other, you know, forms of engineering, you know, other, you know, physicists and all of these different professions. Doctors, lawyers, and you were. And they were like, hey, you know, these guys are also extremely smart in their own right, in their own way. So, yes, they’re not. They didn’t have to do the quarry building and all these different things, but they at least know, you know, the trivium and the quadrivium. You know, they at least know, you know, geometry.

They at least know trigonometry. At least they know some astronomy, some music. You know, a lot of people back in the day, they had a lot of these Renaissance men. They knew their way around all of these different arts and sciences. So that’s the reason why you eventually had, like, the Elias Ashmoles and stuff like that. People who essentially, if they wanted to, they could have started. They could have given up whatever career they were in and probably successfully become an engineer or an architect, you know, become a master mason of a lot of a lodge.

So that. That would be my. My argument is that, you know, is that ultimately, like, the grunt work wasn’t what made you a master mason. It was. It was your mind at the end of the day, you know, so how smart you are. Speaking of people that are really smart. Reddit, you mentioned the Freemasonry subreddit. I’m a passive member. I’m terrified to dip my toe into those waters just because I don’t want to be on, like, the Freemasons radar. But also, I love to scroll at the Catholic subreddit. And let me just tell you something, an observation that I’ve had, and I want to get your thoughts on this.

If I were to post Manly Palmer hall on the Catholic subreddit, it would be like, yeah, whatever, cool. If I post Manly Palmer hall on the. On the Freemasonry subreddit, it’s like, get this Cowan out of here. Everything that Mace that Manly Palmer hall ever wrote was a lie. He wrote that before he was even a Mason. He doesn’t know what the hell he’s talking about. And then like, what have you done that was so great? Have you written Secret teachings of All Ages? Have you written All Seeing Eye and Secret Destiny of America and. No, but I mean, what.

What is it with the hate boner that the. Specifically the Freemasonry Reddit has against Manly Palmer Hall? I totally don’t get it. So with the Freemasonry subreddit, I’ve noticed that a pretty large majority of it is. Especially the Manly P. Hall hate that’s on there is mostly from, like, European, or I would even say more specifically, like, like, United Kingdom Brothers, you know. Gross. Yeah, man. I mean, like, you know, they’re. All they care about is green beans and beans on toast. Like, that’s. You know, all they do is just talk about green beans. And I’m like, I.

You know, for the longest time, I didn’t even get that because our lodge meetings, we always have, like, really dank food. We have great food. We have, like, Mexican food and all this good stuff. And they’re always talking about, like, oh, well, the green beans. And I’m just like, y’ all need to get. Get like, better catering for your lodges or something, because that’s just foul. Anyway, but, like, the big thing with the. With their. Their hatred of Manly P. Hall, to be completely honest, part of it is the fact that Manly P. Hall was. Is an Americ.

Is very famous with American Freemasonry. And there’s kind of a weird. Yeah, there is kind of like this weird thing where they’re just like, oh, well, like the United States Masonry, it’s not the O.G. you know, masonry, which technically they. They, you know, they consider the United Grand Lodging, which is ignorant because that’s not even true. But, you know, whatever. But yeah, it’s. It’s like this weird thing where they think that they can, like, gatekeep masonry and all these different things. And I will say this, you know, Manly P. Hall, you know, he was a Rosicrucian before he ever became a Freemason.

But ironically, you have, in order to be part of the Rosicrucian branch of Freemasonry, you have to prove yourself. You have to essentially be able to show that you have a certain, A certain intellect in order to be able to even join a Rosicrucian branch of Freemasonry. And so, but he was already an initiated Rosicrucian, so a lot of the things that, you know, a lot of things that he was writing about were essentially number one, there were plenty of exposes. There were so many at this, at the time that Manly P. Hall came around, there were so many exposes, all the dude had to do was read some of the expo and they’re pretty much word for word what our rituals is.

You know, there you can get a, a copy of Duncan’s right now and you essentially have almost word for word, maybe with some archaic terms and some certain extrapolations and weird things that we don’t use anymore. But yeah, you can just get that right now. You know, even in, in Albert Pike’s esoterica, you know, he has, in the, in the back he has an entire thing which is an expose that was published shortly before, you know, during his time. And it’s word for word what we have going on essentially today. Even some of the passwords and, and are, are the same, you know, which is kind of a little freaky, but, you know.

Yeah. You mean Albert Blake, the KKK guy? Oh, man, don’t get me started on that. No, I don’t think he was kkk, but he was a Confederate. He was a Confederate general, so that’s why everybody says that he was the kkk, because he was, was. He was a Confederate general. So. But, but yeah, so, so even in that, you know, there were, there were that. So. And Manly P. Hall, people forget, like he had a perfect memory. So he was able, he’s an autodidact. So he was able to read a book once and you could just to ask him, hey, where did this come from? And he would be able to say, oh, on page this, this sentence at this.

He was literally like, you know, he was that much of a genius. So when he read those things, he would just, just, he would just memor. He knew what it was. And then during deeper meditations and contemplations, other studies, he made these connections. Right. So the fact that people get all upset that Manly P. Hall was, you know, spilling secrets before he was or was writing about masonry before he was Actually initiated. You know, I just think that that’s just a nice thing for him to do. To essentially like wait until he’s, you know, older to become initiated because he understood that the obligations that he was going to swear on, because again, all of this stuff has already been exposed.

It’s all written in plain English out there, you know. And so if he read those obligations, he would know, hey, you know, I’m gonna wait until I’m ready until I can confidently know that I want to do this. And so, you know, if that’s what he wanted to do, I don’t see why people have to hate on him for it. Again, I just think that they’re jealous that they don’t have half the intellect that this guy does. You know, that’s really what it comes down to. You know, I get it. I get the fact that like, you know, someone writing about stuff that maybe that they didn’t directly experience yet that you know, of, you know, could be rubbing people the wrong way.

But they need to get the over it. Because if you read something like Lost Keys of Freemasonry, you know, if you’re not a Mason, you really won’t get it. You really, you really. It, it won’t really hit, you know. But as someone who is, who is an experienced and well seasoned Freemason who’s read Lost Keys of Freemasonry by Manly P. Hall many, many times, I can tell you that it, it is dead on balls accurate. What he has to say is worth reading. You know, for if you’re, if you’re a master Mason, you haven’t read it.

You should, because you will walk away changed. And it will unlock certain things that are within you that you probably didn’t even know you wanted or that you needed or that you were seeking. You know. So I say, you know, fuck em, you know, enjoy Manly P. Hall. Enjoy Albert Pike Enjoy these different authors. Don’t let, don’t let a couple of people across the pond who put beans on toast and call that breakfast, you know, tell you how to live your life. You know, that’s why we had the revolution, okay? I know. I love that. Now, whenever I wonder, why are they being so mean to my man Manly Palmer hall all.

It’s because Eurotrash hates American exceptionalism even within the ranks of Freemasonry. So there you go. Mic drop. There you go. Boom. All right, let me crank this up. Just a hint. Let’s do it. Hey, conspiracy buffs. I double dare you to take some pcp. The paranormal Conspiracy probe. On your marks. Get set and go. Okay. You do have to provide your own PCP for this segment. I trust that you’ve got some based on your haircut and tattoos and the way that this works. I’m just going to mention a topic or I’m going to make a statement and I want you to rate that statement’s veracity from 1 to 10.

So if I started out and I said Hiram Abiff was a real person at some point in history, rate that from 1 to 10 and how true you think it is. 9. Is it, is it Hiram of tire from the Bible? Yes. Acacia was a psychedelic known to Freemasons. 1 to 10. 3. Flat Earth. 1 Bigfoot. 3. Yuri Geller bending a spoon with his mind. 8. Celebrity clones. 3. Nephilim, like literal Nephilim. 10. How about little gray aliens or big gray aliens? Any, any size gray aliens. Six. Okay. How about David Ike style reptilian shape shifter aliens from the the Draconis star system? I’ll give it a six.

Okay. Are you very liberal with these sixes? I like it. How about I guess tapping back into the matrix that deja vu is some sort of like an ethereal code? I’ll give it an 8. How about dinosaurs? 10. Dragons having existed at any point in history. You mean like fire breathing dragons? Yep, fire breathing flying scales like the traditional dragon. That it ever existed at any point in history. I’ll do. I’ll do. Four. Nine. Eleven was an inside job. Ten. Oklahoma City was an inside job. Ten. Waco. Ten. Yeah. Ruby Ridge. That was tragic. I’m just that it was our inside job.

Inside job. It was, it was play. It was planned to be a tragedy before it was a tragedy. Might be a better way to describe Ruby Ridge. Indicating that Randy Weaver and Vicki were like doing it themselves. Oh man. I would, I would say that’s a three. It was pretty. That was a pretty sad situation. Yeah, I would say like. Yeah, three. How about Carthage was an inside job. Carthage. You’ll have to tell me about the fall of Carthage. That when Rome took down Carthage. Oh, inside job. The fall of the Phoenician empire. Yeah, okay. Yeah, I would say, I would say political corruption is pretty, pretty much universal.

So I would give it an eight. Okay. How about that a human being has stepped foot on the moon in the last 100 years. I’m gonna say eight. How about that? The government, the US government hired Stanley Kubrick to at least shoot the B roll in case something went wrong. Viable. Do you think that that even happening would Be probably the same 8. Okay. How about angels 10? Does demons also 10? Because it’s just light and dark. Yep. They’re the clip. They’re in Kabbalah, they’re the clip off. So they’re, you got, you gotta have one with the other.

Okay, let’s say that I’m an atheist and I go on Amazon and I purchase a print on demand digital book that says how to summon demons for dummies. And I get it this weekend because it’s prime. It comes overnight. And I do all the things I say, all the stuff. I do the, the magic squares and I do the John D. Anokian sigils. I do all the things that it tells me and at the end. And I don’t, I don’t really necessarily believe it, but I’m doing it. Seriously, I’m not like messing around. Right. I’m doing all the steps.

Exactly. You’re supposed to do them 1 to 10 that I can summon a demon. 10. How about the cryogenesis? Works like we’re gonna see Walt Disney again. You know what? I would give it an 8. How about the artificial intelligence can be used for good? 10. Okay. How about in our lifetimes artificial intelligence will be used for good? Well, it’s already being used for good right now. I use it at work. 10. Okay. How about social media in our lifetimes will be used for a net good on humanity? Not just a good, but like a net good.

I’m going to say three. All right. And finally, that Freemasons are indeed planning super bowl halftime shows. Unfortunately, that’s, that’s gonna be a four for me. So still more likely than Flat Earth. Yeah. Some of the guys on the team are probably, you know, there’s a lot of Masons that are creative. So I mean, you know, I, I can’t, I can’t necessarily totally count them out, but, you know, but to do it maliciously or for, with any kind of like, secret reason besides the fact that it’s their job. I don’t know. Okay. Where you pass the test, you pass pcp, except for a few ones.

I’m not gonna tell you which ones you failed. So in, in departing here again, I want to mention I’m going to have all your links in the description. You’ve got a book called the Mozart Cipher coming out. You’ve got a bunch of different speaking agents. You’ve got a great sub stack. I want to know, make, make your best appeal to someone that’s listening right now. That’s like, like as soon as this feeds over, this guy’s gonna go and kill a baby and, and like, worship Lucifer. Like, convince people that that’s not what Masonry is about. Okay? Like, what.

What’s your best? And. And you already know where they’re coming from. This isn’t like a. A make good men better sort of deal. This is like, we’re not killing babies and we’re not worshiping Lucifer. Like, prove it, because the Catholics are doing it. Okay. Okay, great. The Vatican’s doing it. Masonry is the scapegoat. It is so much more convenient for, you know, for Masonry for a bunch, for only a couple of us Masons versus however many freaking, you know, Catholics are out there. And you just have to, you know, just like what, you know, Christ said, by your fruit, by their fruits, you shall know them.

Right? Look at the amount of pedophilia, you know, when you look at the Masonic Youth Orders and like, you know, any, any, you know, any kind of scandals that that organization has had versus your average altar boy experience, you know. I was an altar boy, by the way, I’ll have you know. Oh, well, I hope you’re getting the therapy that you. That you need, my friend. I appreciate that, but. No, I’m dead serious. You know, I mean, like, yeah, man. I personally think that. That Masonry is like, essentially, like, everything that, you know, that’s negative about Masonry has essentially just been the.

The ruling class in the Vatican, you know, because they’re butt buddies always and forever. Tier, you know, when it comes to tyranny, you know, when it. It’s always the ruling class and the. And the clergy, you know, that are essentially going to be the ones, you know, up for everybody else, you know, they’re the ones that brought that, that, that, you know, brought Nazi, you know, allowed Nazis to use rat lines one time. They did that one time. I don’t believe that. I don’t believe it. But. But, yeah. Or you mean like one period in history.

Yeah, they did that. They only. The Vatican only supported the Reich one time in history. Let’s not dwell on it, all right? I, I will. I will concede that, but I’m sure that there. Yeah, man, like, the Vatican is just. That is where all of these things and it’s such a great thing, right? Like, if you have, for example, like, it’s kind of the same thing that, you know, the Clinton and Trump Russia collusion thing, right? Like, like, as soon as all of a sudden Hillary started getting all of these, like, weird things saying that she was, like, partnered with Russia.

What did she do. She flipped it. She’s like, I’m not the one that’s partnered with Russia. Trump is. And people loved that narrative. They loved that thing. And so it just snowballed into, into this, into this whole thing. But, you know, ultimately they both are, right? Like, the real truth is probably somewhere in the sense that they both are. They’re both somehow in bed. They’re all in bed with each other. All of the ruling classes in bed with each other. The whole thing is a, is a freaking fugazi. And so what do you need? You need, you need a, you need a scapegoat, right, for everybody to say, oh, no, that’s the real pedophilic satanic cabal.

It’s the Masons, the ones who are, you know, building hospitals and all of the, and doing all of this charity work. You know, they’re the ones doing it, you know, could, couldn’t possibly, couldn’t possibly be, you know, one of the most corrupt and horrible institutions who’s literally responsible for the death of probably historically, you know, millions, if not close to billions of people. You know, so not, not the Maze Masonic scapegoat, but the Catholic scapegoat, that’s. That’s the one that’s behind it all. That’s what I think, man. That’s, that’s where I’m at. You delineate between Catholics and Jesuits, or is it just like the, like one big pool? You know, I would say that primarily, you know, the individual, you know, you know, lay Catholic.

I don’t think that it’s them. You know, I know for a fact it’s not them. You know, if you’re a true devoted, you know, Catholic, that’s, that’s one thing. But yeah, the Jesuit and essentially anything that’s part of the actual administrative aspect of the Vatican, that is where I am. Like, I think that you’re the real bad guys here. You’re Illuminati here. I actually love this, this line of conversation. Just because some of, some of these same things, it’s like, oh, well, just normal Catholics, they don’t really know what’s going on. They’ve kind of got the wool pull over the eyes.

Dude, when, when I read about Masons online, it’s like, oh, this guy’s just like a third degree Master Mason. He’s not a 99 degree Memphis misery, like, grand poobah of like, you know, the, the nocturnal night or whatever. So clearly he doesn’t know. He’s so low level. He’s not making Decisions with the other 33rd degrees that are like, kissing the toes of Baphomet. Right. So it’s, it, it’s sort of potato, tomato, a little bit. Oh, it is, yeah. We can just constantly, you know, pass the buck back and forth between each other, you know, for the rest of forever.

Absolutely. Okay, what about last question? This is going to be a little bit wild card, too. Like, what about that Freemasonry is just Judaism for gentiles. Have you ever heard this before? Oh, man, that is. This. This is a hot freaking topic, man. I will say, especially with every three words or less. Okay, no, you can, you can use as many words as you want. All right. You know, I would say no. You know, there’s, you know, that when it comes to the, you know, there’s a lot of things that, you know, we don’t do. Judaism has certain rules and laws.

You can’t wear, you know, textiles that are mixed, you know, so you can’t have that, you know, poly cotton blend, you know, if you’re a Jew. We do, we routinely wear. We don’t follow any of, any, any of those things. We don’t. We don’t observe Sabbath. We don’t. We don’t do anything. And again, Masons can be Hindu. They can be. They can. They can be Jews, they can be Muslim. You know, I know brothers that are pagan, you know, that are straight up, like, you know, Odin’s my guy, you know, so could you spaghetti monster your way into masonry or would someone blackball you? At a certain point, we really don’t ask.

When we say, hey, do you believe in a supreme being? And we. And you say, yes, that’s right. But when they’re like, okay, what book do you want? And you’re like, I’ve got it right here. And it’s like the Book of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. We got, we got, we have, we have books that, you know, that Grand Lodge says are okay, you know, so you can, you can, you can obligate yourself, like, if there’s like two or three hundred different religious texts that you can use, you can even stack them up. I saw a book obligations of brothers had like 12 books stacked up on top of the, on the altar.

Why stop at 12? I want every book in this lodge on that. This altar right now. We would. Hey, man, you know, I think that we would have to. We would have to accommodate. I don’t know, dude. We could, we could keep going on for hours and hours. I’m gonna let you go just so that we’ve got something left over to talk about on the next next time. You always want to leave a little cream on top, right? So that’s what we’re doing here. Mike Samu, AKA Magic Mike, AKA the highest ranking freemason in the United States of America.

32 degrees. Soon to be publishing this Mozart cipher book. Look out for that. What other parting words of wisdom or projects do you want to plug on the way out? Yeah, man, I’m a lecturer. So, you know, if. If there’s any brothers that are listening to this and you found this entertaining and you want to learn more, then, you know, reach out to me through socials. Let’s link up and set up a lecture together. I also do tarot card readings as well. So, you know, if you’re interested in, you know, trying to figure out, you know, maybe some direction or something like that.

Want a little bit of alchemical counseling? Reach out to me. I’d be happy to do a tarot reading for you. Follow my substack if you want. You can subscribe for free or you can become a paid subscriber. Helps me buy my coffee and also my adrenochrome that I use in order to stay young forever. So any, any support is always helpful. And then I think my very, very last thing would be love everyone and tell the truth. Please, for the love of God, love everyone and tell the truth. Pro tip. You don’t want adrenochrome semicarbisone, which is the shelf stable salted version.

That’s not the one you want. It doesn’t have the psychoactive effects that were described by Dr. Abram Hoffer and John Smithies in the 1950s. So you need the fresh adrenochrome stored at like negative 20 degrees and like. Anyways, final parting question. How old is your grandmother? She’s dead. They’re all. Yeah, all my grandparents. They’re all dead. All right. Sorry to hear it. This Illuminati learn about the full history of the Bavarian Illuminati. Adam Weishaupt, Alambrados, Jesuits, Rosicrucians, Freemasons and more. From the 18th century to modern day we expose it all. That’s right. It’s the Illuminati comic from donut and Paranoid American.

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