Big Hero Six and Disneys future pivot into Big Pharma

➡ The text is a conversation from the Occult Disney podcast, where the hosts discuss their love for robots and animatronics, their experiences working with them at Disney, and their interest in the Disney movie “Big Hero 6”. They also mention a ride at Disneyland Japan themed around the movie’s character, Baymax, and how the movie is based on a Marvel comic.
➡ The text discusses the creation and backstory of a movie, focusing on the setting of San Fransokyo, a blend of San Francisco and Tokyo. It explores the idea that the city was rebuilt by Japanese immigrants after the 1906 earthquake. The movie’s main character is a young genius who creates a sentient robot and gets involved in an underground battlebot ring. The text also mentions the diverse ensemble of characters in the movie, reflecting a global representation.
➡ A guy wins a lot of money and is saved by his brother from criminals. He then goes to a college campus where he meets a professor and a tech mogul. He invents nanobots that can change shape and a device that can read thoughts and translate them into commands for the nanobots. The story focuses more on the nanobots than the thought-reading device, which the narrator finds odd. The story also includes a character named Baymax, a soft robot that can’t harm anyone and is designed to provide healthcare. The concept of Baymax was inspired by research in soft robotics at Carnegie Mellon University’s Robotic Institute.
➡ The text discusses the character Baymax from Disney’s Big Hero 6, comparing him to popular Japanese characters and noting his comforting, non-threatening design. It also explores the film’s themes of technology, healthcare, and academia, highlighting the protagonist’s decision to choose academia over corporate interests, only for his university to burn down. The text further delves into the character’s medical capabilities, suggesting a connection to big pharma. Lastly, it reveals a plot twist where the seemingly good professor turns out to be the villain, using nanobots for evil.
➡ The text discusses a movie where a boy named Hero loses his brother, who had created a robot named Baymax. The robot is stolen by Hero’s professor, who is seeking revenge for his daughter’s assumed death. Hero manages to retrieve Baymax, discovers the professor’s daughter is alive in an alternate dimension, and recreates his brother’s technology to make a new Baymax. The text also mentions various other movies and series, and debates whether Baymax carries the soul of Hero’s deceased brother.
➡ The text discusses the Disney series “Big Hero 6” and its main character, Baymax. It highlights the differences between the Disney version and the original Marvel comic, where Baymax was a dragon hybrid creature. The text also mentions the characters of the series, their roles, and their connections to other Marvel characters. It ends by noting that the Disney series did not adopt all aspects of the original Marvel comic.
➡ A Japanese squad of misfits, including a 13-year-old boy, must rescue the boy’s mother who’s been kidnapped by a force representing those killed in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. This plot is compared to various adaptations, including Disney’s Big Hero 6 and the Super Mario Brothers movie. The discussion also touches on the portrayal of intelligence in characters, with a call for more representation of average or less intelligent characters. The conversation ends with a discussion on video games and the recent popularity of the character Baymax in Japan.
➡ The text discusses a movie that was likely made for a broad audience and has been successful, earning over $657 million. It also mentions Disney’s potential move into the healthcare industry, possibly using technology similar to a character from the movie. The text also talks about Disney’s real estate ventures, including a planned community near Palm Springs called Cateno, which is part of the Disney theme park system. The author speculates about the success of such a venture, questioning whether a themed retirement community can work.
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It’s Matt here. Over there, it’s a paranoid American. Got any robots in your room? BattleBots? Actually funny you say that. I mean I’ve got my lighting a certain way, but yeah, I don’t know if you’ll be able to see. But I actually do have all kinds of robot parts and microcontroller parts right behind me at all times. So I, I do. I’m a sucker for robots. I love battlebots. I wasn’t asking the question in any ironic sense. I thought you might do something like that. Do I have robots in my room? Well, because part of the coolest thing that I got to do when I worked at Disney for 10 years was that early on I was able to work with some animatronic stuff.

Not like the Imagineer top level, but we did have this weird janky. You’ll probably appreciate this. We had some old stoner guys in the Disney engineering department that made our way into the post production that we worked in and they were using MIDI cables and, and MIDI signals in order to like control robots and have, you know, eyes blink and things move around. Because audio animatronics thing, right? Yeah, it was. And it was, it was just because it happened to be cheap and they happen to know how to do it and they just knew if I send the signal on midi, I’m not going to get too nerdy right now.

But yeah, we not only robots, but MIDI controlled robots. I’ll tell you where to get nerdy. Defunct Land I haven’t watched yet, but my buddy has told me to watch. Yesterday they had Animatronics Part one. You know, it’s one of those things now where they, when they do put out something, it’s insane. So they put out a two hour documentary on animatronics. Last year they just put out animatronics too. Now it runs at four hours. So if you really want to get nerdy on that stuff, there is a place you can do that for sure. You know what? It’s not as interesting for me watching other people do it.

Like, you just got to get in there and just, like, Tinker. Yeah. Be hands on, man. Okay. As discussed before, that’s probably me and guitars. I will screw around with guitars and get out with screwdrivers and play around and see what I can do sometimes. No soldering, though. I haven’t reached the soldering level. I’m too. So, yeah, I guess you might know soldering, then, with that stuff in there. No time like the present. I prefer larger soldering and not this weird microcontroller stuff. Like, at this point, you have to have a big magnifying glass, and it makes me feel old.

Feel like an old person. But, you know, back in my day, we did. We had breadboards. I like to keep it on a breadboard. You get those visors with the magnifying parts on. Yeah, but you still have to have the precision with what you’re using. I mean, like, your. Your fingers don’t just magically get smaller because your vision gets magnified. I still love the scene. And this is pertinent for it because of Disney, but. Or Pixar, but Toy Story 2. I just love the guy that fixes Woody where he’s, like, old and shaking and. But right when he does his work, he just, like, kind of, like, stiffens up.

I’m like, I don’t know. As I get older, I appreciate that scene. More like a sniper, too. I bet snipers are like that. Oh, yeah. They’re too traumatized. Shaking up the stairs. But then dial it in before you take out JFK at the end. Exactly. That’s why you could. That’s why he could make the shot, people. Because he got that still and could make a bullet go in three different directions at once. So that’s not what we’re here for, though. Well, this movie, you’re way more familiar with it because you say that the main character, Baymax, is still popular in Japan.

I don’t. I don’t know. I’m not in touch with these kids right now these days in the US But I don’t think Baymax is a huge thing here. Here’s the weird thing. I think Baymax got popular, like, in the past five years because this movie, Baymax. I’m just gonna call the movie Baymax. That’s what we call in Japan. Big Hero 6, whatever. Sure. But, like, I think it did okay in Japanese theaters or anything like. Like any other animated Disney movie that is in Frozen. That did much better, but you know, like. It did okay. But they opened a rot.

They opened a ride at Disneyland maybe three or four years ago, which is the Happy Ride with Baymax. That’s the one I talked about where there’s five J pop songs. You’ll get one of them as you ride it. People hang out outside and like dance to them. The cast members are dancing as it’s going. I finally rode the ride last month. Unfortunately, I was there at a time when the. The. The caught wasn’t there. So it was not really that interesting. So hold on, you. There’s five J pop songs in this movie? No, no, no. In the ride called the Happy Ride with Baymax, which are specific.

One of them is made by like Ms. Green at Mrs. Green Apple, which is a very popular J pop band, which. But anyway, yeah, and then like, there’s like high school girls. I’ll just like group around it all day and like dance to the songs and stuff. I. I’ve seen it. I’ve been there when that was happening. But when I actually wrote it, it seemed to be on a really like, chill, nothing’s going on day. The cast members were still like half dancing. But yeah, so it was. I guess you should go at night as well so you get all the crazy lights.

I was in the middle of the day, so that was also probably a mistake. And. And you have to go to Japan in order to be on this ride because we don’t have a Baymax ride. You have rides like it. There’s. I know Cal, you’re not in California, but California has a cars ride that’s the exact same system. Like same ride system. And I think Florida. I don’t know what the theme is, but I think Florida has one too that it’s like a different theming, but it’s the same ride, basically. So you’re talking about music though.

On the ride in the movie I actually had this note of man, I. I don’t mind the music in this movie. And then a certain song came on, the Immortal Song and I had to go back to my note and. And be like, okay, never mind. I’m not sure if I like the music in this movie. You’re out having seen it. And for me, I didn’t see in the theater because it was only in Japanese and Japanese theaters. I. I mean, this is my normal thing. I saw it. We got the Blu Ray or whatever and watched it with my daughter and she liked it pretty well.

You know, we didn’t watch it. A Frozen amount of times. But like I said, I think watching it last night was probably my sixth time seeing it. So she liked it somewhat, but it wasn’t like one of those, like, oh, my God, please stop putting this movie on Winnie the Pooh, which we did a few weeks ago, that got a good, like, 30 views. But I. I was perfectly happy to watch that one again. So. And this one got, like, six. This one got about six views. Big Hero six. Six views? Yeah, I think it’s about six views now.

But I haven’t watched it for, like, 10 years either. So it has been quite a while since I watched it. So it was, you know, kind of new. Like, okay, before we start recording, you’re like, hey, do you know this is Marvel? And I was first going to come out with, like, hey, did you know this was Marvel? And Big Hero 6 is the correct title, because that was a comic and it’s a team, and I forgot this movie had a team. You just think, there’s Hero, there’s Baymax. That’s it right now. There’s. Let’s save that.

Let’s. Let’s save that for. For getting in the weeds in a little bit, because I got some interesting notes about how it morphed from what the Marvel version was to what we actually end up getting, and then some of the correlations you can draw between the two. But. And this specifically came about because once Disney buys Marvel, they buy Marvel in 2010. I think there’s still branding. Like, when Avengers comes out, it has, like, the Paramount logo or whatever because of deals still in place. But Disney was already getting, like, most of the profit at that point.

I think it’s after Avengers when Disney straight up starts putting their name on Marvel movies. So after 2010, you know, last year is telling his people to go, you know, see how to use this. So the animators were basically finding the most obscure Marvel things they could and gave them, like, six out. Why did I keep saying six? Probably because of the title of this movie. Gave several options. It might have not been six options, but this was the one that. That flew, you know, literally and figuratively, which is interesting because it. It departs so far from the source material.

But, okay, we’re gonna get there. Let’s talk about what the. The movie actually ended up being first. And then we’re going to rewind it back and talk about the Marvel origins. Okay, so am I doing that? We got San. San Fransokyo. Did I say it right? I’m, like, kind of, like, worried about saying That I think. Yeah. Fran. Sokyo. It sounds like something a Mormon would do. Yeah. So we got the tech industry. I guess it’s slightly north, because I think Silicon Valley is more like San Jose. It’s a little more south. But all the tech guys are in the city now.

Right. Like at the university there. And are we in agreement that this is basically man in the high Castle future, that Germany and Japan won World War II and that’s why they run San Fran Tokyo. There is a production backstory. It’s not that. Because that would be a little dark if they had to explain it that way. People wouldn’t like that. They say after the big San Francisco quake of 1906, the idea here, that is the Japanese immigrants really stepped up to rebuild the city. So the geography of the city is, like, to the point where they bought, like, you know, went to the city office and got, like, the proper.

Not blueprints of the city, whatever they call the, you know, overview. So, like, they put all that into the computer. So it is San Francisco with a bunch of, like, Japanese stuff layered. It’s like the Golden Gate Bridge of this. It’s. It’s the Golden Gate Bridge, but now all the towers look like Tory Gates. You know, I’m going with the World War II thing. Oh, no, yours is more fun. I’m just telling you that the production actually went with the Japanese immigrants rebuild after the. The quake is. Is. Was the official line, but. This is going to sound ignorant, but that’s okay.

I thought it was mostly, like, Chinese immigrants that they populated the west with to build all the railroads. Or was it just a mixed bag? Any. Anyone from Asia counted as Chinese. Mixed bag for the railroads. Chinese. Chinese is correct. I believe that’s more Chinese immigrants. But San Francisco had the largest Japanese population in America. Maybe it still does. I don’t know. Seattle, I think, has a pretty big one, too, now, but, yeah, that’s just where they, you know, had the biggest. Because they have a Chinatown in San Francisco, too, don’t they? So, I mean, it makes sense.

If you’re coming from. If you’re coming across the Pacific, that’s the first place you’re going to head, right? I’ve lived in five major cities, and every one of those major cities has had a Chinatown. Let me think about that. Well, in Japan, that’s. I mean, San Antonio, New outside New Orleans, Orlando definitely has a Chinatown. And New York, like, every one of those had a Chinatown. Okay. Atlanta has a Chinatown. Yeah, definitely. But it’s. It’s like A China suburb, more like. Right. It’s like once. The thing with Atlanta is once they announced the olympics in, like, 1990, that’s when the city really, like, started to diversify more, I guess.

So, like, where my parents live is basically when people are like, where do you live in Atlanta? I might say. Oh, in the Korean part. Like, my part of Atlanta is like, Koreatown. Good sandwiches. Oh, yeah. But it’s all mixed up, too. I think I mentioned before, there’s a. There’s, you know, like a sign of a strip mall that has, like, seven different languages on it. You know, there’s like, Thai, Vietnamese, Spanish, Chinese, you know, Korean and some English. And speaking of, I do get the feeling that this Big Hero six, the ensemble there, it’s a global.

Right. This movie also feels a little bit like planes, where planes was stretching to just be inclusive of every single country and nationality. I kind of get a very similar feeling for this, which to. I’m not going to get too far into the weeds yet. But the original Marvel Big Hero 6 team, they also kind of represented that. I think that they skewed a little bit towards Japan, but they had, like, an international feel to him as well. Like, I think they’ve literally worked alongside the U.N. yeah. I don’t know if that team’s memorable. I will say, having watched this movie just last night, I’ve pretty much forgotten everyone on the team again in this movie, except for the stoner guy.

And I don’t remember what he did. Fred, He’s. Yeah, so Fred is just a comic book guy. That’s what he does. He’s a comic book guy. Okay. That’s why. So, yeah, that if they were trying to. Based on the team, I’m like, well, they did not make that memorable at all. Because I’m looking. What do we got? Sunfire names to Silver Samurai was on Big Hero 6. Oh, my. Okay. All right, hold on. Let’s. Let’s save this. Let’s save. Oh, we’re saving it. Sorry, sorry. So hold on. Let me. Let me walk through. Because really, this movie doesn’t have a whole lot to do with the source materials.

So let’s just. Let’s talk about what the movie does first and we can talk about what the source material does, because in the movie, it’s about this. This kid that basically is a genius. Doogie Howser, battlebot hacker creator. Right. He’s kind of a Mary sue, but a nerd boy version. Maybe like a John Connor. If we start, doesn’t Mary sue have to come in like later. Mary sue can’t be there from the start, can she? He, I get, I don’t know. I always, I always assume a Mary sue is just somebody that can do everything with no real training needed.

So it is, I, I, I would be curious to hear what listeners think. I, I think, I feel like Mary sue must be added after the initial stages of whatever it is you’re doing or not. I’d be curious to know. Like, seriously, I’m like, well, I don’t know. Technically, if someone comes along and tells the main character you’ve had the power in you all along and they’re like, I do. Wow. I do. And then all of a sudden they can do the thing that you’ve been building up to. I feel that that would be a still a Mary sue, even if that character was introduced in frame one.

So Neo in the Matrix is Mary sue maybe. Although Neo had like some kind of hacker ability, right? He was at least being employed as a mid to high tier programmer or something. So it’s not working in a cubicle? I guess so, yeah, but it’s not like he just rolled up onto like the, the shore one day and then all of a sudden could solve everyone’s problems. Okay. I mean, I guess I could see a 14 year old kid might be a little bit into, you know, like tinkering with stuff. I had a friend that we kept meaning to go build a theremin.

I was going to rely on his technical skills and basically help and then want to play it. But yeah, we just never got around to it. That’s how most of those projects end up going. It is. That’s the big one for me though. Never built the theremin. That’s what I’m saying. Like if you want to tinker and make a little robot or make a theremin, like just order the damn parts and do it. Like you can do it in a day or maybe a weekend with the right YouTube videos. Or there’s a Saved by the Bell where Screech has built himself a sentient robot that we only see in like one or two episodes.

Movie is, this movie is about Screech making like a sentient robot. And you’re just like, okay, whatever, yeah, Screech can do that. But if the a theremin you can do. But also after a weekend, even if you can get it to sound kind of right, you’re like, maybe I should have just spent like 80 bucks to get just a kit that already did this out of the box. And then I would totally do it now? Yeah, it was high school. I didn’t have the money to go pay lady bucks. Now I do. So. Okay, so we get this 13 year old Doogie Howser Battlebot kid and he’s hustling.

He’s basically hustling these criminals that are also doing battlebots in this underground battlebot ring. And he wins a whole bunch of money and then he gets saved by his brother from getting beat up by, I guess he’s like underground criminals. And then his brother whisks him away to a college campus. And at the college campus, the DARPA canvas at darpa, he meets, I guess this guy that’s kind of one of his heroes who’s a professor there. And he also meets a guy that’s kind of like an Elon Musky, Bill Gates entrepreneur slash tech mogul there. And from here he, I guess he creates these little nanobots.

He really creates a couple things, which is this is the Mary sue part. So he’s got the. They kind of look like if you ever play Jax, right, With the little ball and a little jack. It’s kind of like these little jack looking things that are nanobots that can form into a mesh and communicate with each other and, and they can form any sort of shape that you want. But the other thing that he’s got is this little telepathic brain scan reader that knows what you’re thinking and then can translate your thoughts into the coordinates that these little nanobots need to configure themselves in.

And I was just thinking immediately, and I already know I’m giving it more thought than they are giving the audience credit for. Probably, but isn’t the real headliner there, Hey, I have a device that can read thoughts. It’s not, hey, I figured out how to make these nanobot things talk to each other. I feel like that’s pretty rudimentary. People can do that. But to actually invent something that can read your brain waves and translate that into something else, that’s usually the plot point of other movies. Like the bad guy just found this thing and now we have to get it from him.

Yet in this movie, the 13 Year Old Kid makes this and really the focus is on the stupid little nanobots. My notice. So Hiro just invented the darkest tool of the darkest plants. I have questions about this and they kind of gloss over it. Yeah, yeah, for sure. So the movie’s focusing what on the nanotechnology, which here’s something from my past. And now watching this, probably the first time I saw it too. But I Did environmental education. I was working in Maine, like on the beach in 2002, and we had like someone come by during like training or something to lecture us about nanotechnology.

Like a bunch of, you know, teachers, probably mostly 22 to 25, a few people older than that. But yeah, we got this big lecture about nanotechnology in 2002 and I’m like, that was weird, maybe. But also, Michael Crichton wrote this book, the Swarm, that I believe was 90s, maybe even 80s. It was also about nanobots. So it’s not like it was a foreign concept across the board. Michael. I mean, and this was post Jurassic park, so. Yeah, well, I. My constant Star Trek references. Voyager also had the Swarm, which had a bunch of small nano. I mean, they were bigger in nano, but that kind of vibe, like, you know.

Well, in this movie too they are. They’re actually not nanobots. They call them microbots, which makes more sense because you like, he can hold the. The components of them in his hand and you can see it. And if it were a nanobot, you wouldn’t be able to see it unless you were like, really getting in there. Yeah. They do need to animate this, so. Right. And even for kids to be able to tell, like, oh, they’re like little miniature robots. I think it connects better than nano because nano, you’d have to do like a whole zoom in sequence to just let you know, hey, this shape that looks like bees.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Anyway, after all that, they blow up darpa, so of course heroes. Brother eats it in that one. And then I have a. Have we seen a funeral in a Disney movie before? Like an anime, A Disney movie? I feel like we have. But I guess now that you asked the question, I don’t know if I can put my finger on it, but yeah, I mean, I mean, I guess Snow White has the funeral vibe, but she gets out of the glass case, so it’s doesn’t turn out to be funeral in the end.

Well, we gotta. We gotta re. Watch everything again and find out. Yeah. Anyway, just. I know sometimes you’re like, this is the Disney. So often they pull the rug out from under you. So they might show you someone that like died, but then it’s like, oh, no, they’re not dead because they just got a kiss. So, yeah, this is kind of, I think like the most Disney proxy thing we’ve gotten a while. Because Brother dies, Baymax shows up pretty quickly after that. The original plan, by the way, was that Baymax was going to show up near the end of the movie.

And so that would have been a horrible move. Yeah, exactly. They’re like, don’t. Someone was like, let’s don’t bury the lead. He comes in early. Which made them have to restructure the entire movie. But that’s fine. It works better. I do, I like this movie pretty well. I think it’s, it’s entertaining. I mean it’s, I think it’s also has darker stuff than we’ve seen in the past few movies, but I think it’s entertaining. I don’t think it has that same occult connection. I don’t think it’s as deep as other Disney movies are. But I, I absolutely understand too why you call it Baymax and why that’s like the most recognizable part of this.

And it’s not about any of the other Big Hero 6 teammates. And it was crazy to think that they might have had a version of this movie where you don’t even get Baymax until the end because Baymax makes the entire movies the most interesting thing about it. And he’s where all the gags are, you know, he’s what kind of softens the movie a little bit. Right. He’s. He’s kind of like both straight man to like this weird absurd world. But then he’s also so in insanely like unable to hurt things that it reminds me of when John Connor again tells the Terminator like you can’t kill anybody.

He has to like shoot everyone in the kneecaps. That’s kind of Baymax. Baymax is kind of the neutered version of Arnold Schwarzenegger. Yeah. The goal here was to have a new kind of robot. So it’s not the terminator, it’s not C3PO, it’s not any of your Japanese mechs. And they. Here we go. They got the idea from Carnegie Mellons University’s Robotic Institute where they met a team of DARPA funded researchers who are pioneering the new field of soft robotics. So that’s. It’s just. Yes, the idea of Baybacks comes directly from DARPA actually. Like that’s not a conspiracy.

That’s just where it comes from. I like it. You know what? It’s genius too. As soon as I saw the mechanism because for anyone that hasn’t seen this movie, the Baymax character, he’s a personal healthcare companion. So it’s like a little robot that would hang out with you in the hospital room or maybe in your own house if you needed help. And it fits into this tiny little box and the box can open and this big thing inflates. It’s just made out of I guess like polyester or something. And the thing inflates with air because it has a little fan built into it.

And then once it comes to its full size it can walk around and it can like hand you things but it can’t really hurt you, right? If you were to. If it like try to like punch you or if you fell into it, it’s just a big pillow filled with air. So. And armor until, until he puts armor on it and that which is like a kind of like Avon like Evangelion armor style to like imprison it but also make it stronger. But in, in this case like Baymax is unable to harm anything. And it is an interesting concept of a robot because almost every other robot I’ve ever seen other than Baymax would at least be capable of hurting you if it fell on you.

Cuz it’s heavier, it could pinch you because there’s like little metal joints that you could get your fingers stuck in or they can like overheat. And this thing is literally just a big bag of air. Let me do a little bit more of the Japan thing. The Happy ride with Baymax. That’s what it’s about. You get in the line and there’s all this stuff like oh, you’re not quite happy enough. Baymax is going to fix that for you, right? And that’s why the songs, the song is supposed to. Baymax has engineered these songs to make you happy.

And you get in the little car and then there’s a Baymax in front of you that like kind of spins you around and takes you around on these loops and stuff. So at night time with people dancing around the edges, I guess it would be fun. But if you go to Tokyo Disneyland, just watch a few cycles. You don’t. Don’t ride the thing. But that, that’s the thing there. Baymax’s face. They also were like, especially once he’s in armor, he still needs to look like kind of innocent or non threatening. So this might be one of the reasons it’s caught on Japan.

It’s based after the bells you would find at shrines like they often have. It’s a brass bell and it has that little an opening like that I’ve mentioned before. Japan’s Mickey Mouse is kind of Drymon. He’s a robot cat from the future that doesn’t have ears. And he’s probably one of the. He’s one of the top three most popular characters In Japan. But I don’t think Americans know Drymon so much. But yeah, he’s. His cat collar has that kind of bell. So it’s an image that Japanese are just kind of used to. So when they see Baymax’s face, it’s, it’s, it’s very, I guess, comforting for Japanese people.

Well, for me now, now that I know who Baymax is, but I feel that we don’t probably get the same level of Baymax marketing in the States that you would in Japan either. Oh, best. One of the best examples is if you go the other park, Disney, see they have Mysterious Island. It’s Jules Verne themed land. It’s got the journey to the center of the earth, right? One of the best rides ever. And it has this little shop in this very cyberpunk looking like kind of dome, right? And for some reason it’s now completely Baymax merch in this Jules Verne lands.

Like that doesn’t even make sense. Disney will make it make sense. That’s how they operate. The ride next to this ends with a giant lava demon. Sell some lava demon merch. What are you doing? Lava Mama, actually, because you see the eggs, right? And then it’s protecting her babies and shoot you out of the volcano. That’s the ride. So Lava Mama. Okay, so for Lava Mama. So this, this 13 year old genius makes a helmet that can read your thoughts and it can communicate your thoughts into this network mesh of, of microbots that can then turn into anything that you want.

And he has to make this big decision. He has to make a decision. Do I want to sell this idea and work for Alistair Cray? Which Alistair Crowley, right, Aleister Cray. Or do I focus this in academia and make no money off of it, but just kind of like feel good about it? So of course he chooses academia because this is a Disney movie and Disney has to always like push the state narrative, I assume. But as soon as I thought this was funny, the second that he chooses academia, like that night, like five minutes later, the university burns down.

So it’s almost like foreshadowing, hey, maybe don’t go with academia next time. Maybe you should go with private industry and the corporate world, right? Anyways, he goes to that. It burns down. And as it’s burning down, his brother’s like, oh my God, our professor, the academic professor, he’s in there. So the brother runs in to go and save him and the brother never comes out. And that’s when we see I maybe the first Disney funeral I’m not going to, I’m not going to say that it is, but maybe it’s the first Disney funeral. This was Professor Callahan.

And then we discover Baymax again for the first time, which was his brother’s invention. And Baymax has like a little disc in it from his brother, which I think that they’re kind of implying that it has some of his brother’s traits and even personality and maybe even soul. Like, I don’t, I don’t know. Since we were just talking about that. Yeah. If you haven’t watched our other cartoon cabal show, we’ve been watching Neon Genesis Evangelion, but this one is very on the nose with that. Right. Because the concept of Evangelion is that they’ve. We’ve created these mech suits which can also somehow have big robots that have a human soul inside.

And this is kind of what Baymax is. Baymax is this non offensive personal care companion. It gets hacked by a 13 year old and the third, let’s say 14 to make it more evangelion. Like, so this 14 year old puts a mech suit on top of this healthcare companion. So now it’s kind of a badass. But he also finds out that his brother’s soul might be inside of it. Hiro Hamada is 14. So this is Evangelion. Okay. Yeah. This is Disney making Evangelion for kids. Yeah, I guess so. The other thing too I wanted to point out is this, that we see Baymax show a couple times this different pain scale.

And I guess this is universal now, but it has the colors that go from green to red and then it has the faces that go from completely happy to maybe non plussed to, I’m in lots of pain and I’m kind of crying. And it’s where the doctor’s like, okay, tell me how much pain you’re in. And that determines how many opiates you get or like the level of OxyContin they’re going to give you. And I just thought that that’s because essentially Baymax is showing him. Okay, like, what’s your pain level? Does this mean baymax can dispense oxycontin? I guess so.

He’s coming from a university DARPA lab, you know, like quite literally. Now that I’ve been doing a bit more of the research here. He’ll teach you about puberty as well. Do you want to learn about puberty from Baymax? Well, not, not only will he teach you, he will fix you. He’ll solve it. He’ll do sex ed For. For kindergarteners. He has no problem with that. He also. I was thinking that there’s got to be some other connection between Baymax and at least Purdue Pharma, but big pharma in general, there’s no way that this is coming from academia and darpa, and it doesn’t tie in with big Pharma at some point.

So I assume that he could probably have some kind of like a. A mist because he’s. He’s constantly has fans blowing, so there’s air rotating through his body at all times. That’s how he, like, kind of acts like he moves like a wacky wobbler. So that means that he could just aerosol any sort of drug and then just spray it in your face, like almost immediately. Yeah, I think so. Now that is a little more under the surface. They don’t. Because they. We don’t really get that deep into his actual medical skills in this movie. But they are all implied, aren’t they? What if you’re working in modern technology in the healthcare field, what part of what you’re working on doesn’t make its way to big pharma? It all goes there, right? All roads lead to big Pharma.

Yes. I mean, this one definitely is like. I mean, I guess my, my, my, you. You make the YouTube headlines. But I’m like, you know, Disney wants you to trust tech giants and, you know, would burn down academia or something. Right? That’s kind of the vibe. Disney wants to prescribe OxyContin to your children. Elon Musk knows what’s right. He might seem creepy at first, but he knows what’s right. You’re just gonna talk to your kid about puberty a little bit about some strange and strong urges they might be going through. Yeah, so that, that’s what stuck out to me.

I guess the tech end stuck out to me a lot more than the medical end. But the medical end is implied once you start thinking about it, so. And there is a medical robot, isn’t he? So technically, there’s a little bit of Antichrist narrative in this movie, too, that I’m not overlaying or pushing in there. Because the theme song, from what I can tell of the entire movie, it’s the one big song they break into and then they replay it at the end. It’s about how you’re going to become immortal. And. And I believe that’s essentially the one big thing that we expect the Antichrist to promise everyone is immortality, which is also what the health slash technology field is essentially leading Its way to, like, if there were.

If there were one industry on the entire planet that would be promising immortality, it’s probably tech and healthcare. Yeah. So I was actually looking for. I wrote a lot of notes for this. Okay. I was. I wasn’t watching the movie. Close enough. I was too busy writing notes. Is that good or bad? I’m not sure. Well, here, I’ll finish up my summary because it doesn’t get that much deeper. So I think when we see the university burn down after Hero decides he’s gonna go with academia and he’s not going to go with Alistair, the. You would be led to believe.

Oh, Alistair burned it down. Right. Alistair’s like, well, if I can’t get it, no one’s going to get it. And he kills the professor and he burns down. You find out that’s not the case. And it’s actually the nanobots that are now the bad guy, kind of. And Professor Callahan, the old guy that you think is the good guy, he ends up being the bad guy. So it’s almost like it was a little bit surprising, but also very predictable because they set all these pieces up so easily. You kind of expect that. And so we. We basically start fighting Professor Callahan as the arch nemesis.

But my interpretation is that it’s the nanobots that are really the bad guy here because they kind of start taking over Callahan. Is that how you pick that up? Well, yeah, because he’s. He’s on the, you know, the. It’s like the Mr. Freeze thing where Mr. Freeze is just trying to save his dead wife and Professor Callhan is just trying to get his, you know. Well, I guess he’s trying to get revenge on his daughter. He doesn’t know that because that’s a plot point we haven’t mentioned yet. His daughter Abigail took a test flight into what, the alternate Doctor Strange dimension or something, and he assumes that.

That, you know, tech killed her or whatever, so he’s on a revenge trip. But, yeah, big finale of the movie is. Is Baymax. You’re better at these summarizations. But Hero and Baymax going in there. Baymax is supposedly sacrificing himself to save Hero and, you know, salvage Abigail from the dementor zone or whatever it was, right? And they find out that she was alive the whole time in some alternate dimensions. So then it’s like, oh, okay, my bad. I was kind of being a dick all for no reason and trying to get revenge on everyone. Even though.

Exactly. The plot of the second Ant man movie, it’s kind of A lot of Marvel movies, to be honest, a lot of this is probably where they got some of that Marvel inspiration. They. The. The other thing too, I. The. My favorite part, I think, of the entire movie is that when Baymax gets low on battery, he gets drunk and he starts acting like a drunk. And that’s probably the. The best part of this entire character. Yeah, I would go with that. I. I had some note on that Baymax is drunk, go home. But he is home.

So now what does he do? Okay, that was my note. Okay. And then we also see that hero is able to upload kind of again, I guess a Nero Matrix would be another good example here where Neo downloads how to fly a helicopter and how to, you know, do all these martial arts. Now he knows how to do it. We kind of get that. Hero puts all this on a disk drive and he puts that disk drive in the Baymax. And now Baymax literally is doing karate and he knows how to like knock down doors and be violent out of nowhere.

Yeah, but that’s for. For yet another Star Trek Voyager reference. That’s the doctor there. They have the Emergency Medical Hologram, kind of a Baymax on that show. He, you know, he’s kind of gruff and stupid at first over time since he’s existing now, you know, and they eventually have to turn or they give him a program to be the Emergency Command Hologram. Well, the Emergency Command Hologram can fire phasers and destroy a ship and kill, you know, beings. Right. So does that kind of goes against things. So once Baymax starts learning violent stuff, it seems like a weird conflict of interest.

Yeah, I would totally assume too. And then DARPA’s like, what? No, we never would have thought that this thing that we funded and created ever going to turn violent. We never use any of our stuff for violence. And I want to mention two other bits of media. One, I think I did mention the cartoon cabal, which is Caprica, which is kind of. It’s where the. Yeah, Battlestar Galactica prequel actually. But the. The tech giant’s daughter dies in a terrorist attack. But she’s done so much that basically she’s put the disc onto the Internet where she has written, you know, so there’s like this ghost version of her that maybe is her.

And then Baymax kind of has this thing too, like how much of this actually is Hero’s brother. So that’s going on. And that had me thinking. I told you before how we had family viewings of Alien and the Shining as. As one does last week, my My daughter likes brainy sci fi recently, so I put on AI you know, this Bueller almost Kubrick thing. That one actually drove my. Whoa, we’re gonna have that one. That one drove my wife out of the room. She couldn’t handle that one. I would just say that the, the Spielberg, Kubrick thing is a little bit of a slap in the face as my, my understanding of this, which is definitely biased and not mainstream, my understanding is that this was almost a slight.

This was Spielberg pissing on Kubrick’s grave because that maybe Kubrick exposed the moon landing. I don’t know what he was doing, but that originally Kubrick’s vision for this was completely polar opposite to what Spielberg ended up putting out. And there are some groups of people that believe that this was done intentionally. Like, Spielberg was like, screw you, Stanley. I’m doing this the way that you. You wanted to make sure it never got done this way. I’m doing it that way. And that’s kind of how the AI movie came into fruition. And the original version was almost going to be alchemical and about an actual homunculus and not whatever we think keeps that after the first hour.

You’re right. But the first hour seems to maintain that. I would say, like, that one definitely had me thinking about homunculus and all that maybe Spielberg just didn’t finish it off the way that it needed to. But yeah, and yeah, it seemed like it started, but yeah, it does definitely go more Spielberg. I, I do kind. I think that movie’s gotten better with age. So I, I would recommend a re watch too. But better than what is it? Man of the Century or Bicentennial Man? Bicentennial Man. That one, that one had Robin Williams would include as part of his stand up act apologizing for that movie.

That one does not age as. As well as AI does. That was a regular part of his stand up. I don’t remember exactly how he structured the joke, but he would have, you know, amusingly apologized for that movie on stage when he started doing stand up again. Anyway, my point is an A.I. of course, the thing that drove my wife out of the room is basically we’re looking at a boy who’s getting treated so bizarrely because he’s a robot. Baymax gets rid of that by looking big, plushy and cute. He’s a giant marshmallow. Right? Like, maybe it’s because I see the movie.

He can’t be hurt outside of maybe if you destroyed his, like, computer that you put the discs in, but you can’t really? Even the disc itself did it, didn’t it? Which, of course, Hiro, for some reason, is able to recreate his brother’s technology completely to make a new Baymax at the end, which. That’s weird there. Okay, I’ll go with that for the. For the Mary sue thing. But yeah, yeah, but yeah, you only need that disc, I guess. I don’t know that that’s why I started thinking of Capric. I’m like, well, it’s just the disc. So.

Yeah, so the whole. The whole premise of this movie is basically Doogie Howser, Battlebot boy brother dies, he invents some crazy robotic thing. The robotic thing gets stolen by his hero professor. He wins it back, finds a professor’s daughter, and everyone kind of lives happily ever after. That’s sort of the premise of this, right? Well, except for hero’s brother. He does not live happily ever after. Well, I don’t know. He gets to live through Baymax, so. Potato, potato. Come on. He’s dead. They put him in the ground. Okay, sure. He’s out. Whatever he’s done. Yeah, well, that is the thing I’m bringing up, Capricorn stuff.

I’m like, is Baymax actually the brother? I would say the soul. Is the soul transferred? I don’t know. And that was a big thing in Caprica. Did the soul get transferred or not? Which, when you’re talking tech, probably not. But then you got. That’s the whole thing. You got the Cylon. So it’s like they seem to come sending in, so, blah, blah. Interesting show. I. I think, yeah, watch Caprica, folks. It was good. And nobody watched it. I saw it. I mean, it wasn’t bad. But you also have to have already cared about Battlestar Galactica to really care about Capricorn.

Yeah, I guess it is. It’s the best form of prequel. It’s a completely different thing. But you did have to watch the first one to really get it. So. Yeah, so it’s like, yeah, folks, go ahead and invest in like a five or six series HBO production, hour long episodes, no commercials, by the way, and then go and watch the prequel after that. So talk to me in about 100 to 200 hours worth of watch time. Now, this one does have a lot of coattails. It’s had two series to chase it down. I think they’re thinking about the sequel still.

Although that’s a quote from 2015. So let’s. I don’t know, I mean, it seems like something they could do. Sure. Make a sequel television series. There’s Big Hero 6, the series, like, three years after. And in 2020, there was a Disney plus series called Baymax when they were just throwing everything they possibly could into Disney plus to try and have it not fail. So, okay, I mean, you kind of already brought this up, but even though it’s called Big Hero 6, you call it Baymax. The star of the movie is Baymax. I barely even remember the protagonist name, which is literally hero.

That’s how I remember it. Baymax is still the coolest thing here. And it is a little bit weird to consider spin offs and other series and like, who cares? No one on the team really matters. And ultimately no one on the team is really super anything. They’re just wearing heroes. Cool Doogie Howser stuff that makes them cool. Like, I could put on any of those suits and. And now I would be a superhero too. Which kind of destroys the whole reason why a kid would care about someone that’s in a superhero team, I think. Yeah. This one’s also a good one to make a TV show because the voice stars.

I usually talk about voice stars. By this point, I haven’t so much here because nobody’s particular. They just hired actual voice actors for once. I don’t miss it, man. I don’t really need a celebrity voice. In fact, when I hear a celebrity voice, I’m just thinking, like, what corners did you cut to pay this person some ridiculous amount of money? You could have probably had a cooler background right now. Okay, Alistair. Alistair Cray was Alan Tudyk and Professor Callahan was James Cromwell. Not the biggest stars. And that is Stan Lee at the end. And, yeah, me at Stanley at the end.

I was extremely confused by. Since I didn’t know it was a Marvel series, I was like, oh, Stan Lee. Okay, spoiler alert. Hey, if you’re listening to this, what, 43 minutes in. Okay, I think. I think the spoiler band aid has been ripped off. Well, since. Okay, you brought up Stan Lee. Let’s talk a little bit about the Marvel background of this. And I asked you, when we. Right before we started recording, if you knew. I’ve never seen this movie before, so I didn’t know. But I also didn’t even know about Big Hero 6 being a marvel team.

But I absolutely love Silver Samurai. He was like one of my favorite Wolverine showdowns. And also because Wolverine and Silver Samurai are both like, anti heroes, they’re not like, neither of them are necessarily good guys or bad guys. So I always found that particular Face off was like one of the more Interesting ones out of all the ones Wolverine had. Well, that’s the limited series Chris Claremont thing from the mid-80s. Right. That’s like one of the best Wolverine comics ever. Correct. And then this is when, yeah, Wolverine goes to Japan and he’s got, like, a Japanese girlfriend, he turns for a little while.

Like, it’s one of the cooler ones. And I guess during that stint or related to this and Silver Samurai, that there was like a Japanese team that called Big Hero 6. And in this Japanese team, Baymax was actually a dragon hybrid creature that kind of looked like Savage Dragon. I don’t know if you remember that series that was. I think it was image or something. But anyways, he kind of has like the savage dragon look. He’s. He’s an actual dragon. And. And in the movie Baymax, clearly they don’t have that dragon look. But Fred, who is Stan Lee’s son, you find out at the end.

Fred, the comic guy, he wears this Godzilla lizard suit. And he also talks about wanting the ability to transform. And that’s because the original Baymax in Big Hero 6 is this guy that can transform into a dragon. So Fred represents the connection between what Disney has made for Big Hero 6 and what the real Big Hero 6 from Marvel is. And Fred is that that exact conduit, which is why he’s the one that’s the real Baymax. Like, Fred is Baymax. If you were to look at it through the Marvel lens, but through the Disney lens, you would think Baymax is this weird personal companion health care bot.

I looked. I’m looking at the COVID which actually, it’s Sunfire and Big Hero 6. Although Sunfire is one of the 6Y. He is. So we got who’s. Who’s on it. Silver Samurai, Gogo Tamago, Honey Lemon Hero, Takachi, Takachiko Chiho, and Mr. Oshima. And Mr. Oshima is like the guy that runs it all. Yeah. And yes, Baymax does looks nothing like you would think he looks. But the. The point was to actually get like, the take the most obscure thing so they wouldn’t, like, step on, you know, Kevin Feige’s toes, I guess, as. And that’s like, let’s use some Marvel stuff.

But something that he probably won’t use. Although then his next move is like, I’m going to do Guardians of the Galaxy. So they were having the same thoughts in the end, and both were pretty successful. I do kind of love the idea now that the fir. One of the first Walt Disney Marvel movies, if you ignore the Avengers because It’s got its own little asterisks. And this one doesn’t mention Marvel at the beginning. You don’t get like the Marvel opening scene. Exactly. I was so confused when Stanley showed up. So. Okay, but because Stan Lee is at the end of it and Stan Lee’s son Fred represents the original Big Hero 6.

Like the real comic series, which went on for, I want to say, like 30 issues or something, it was not just like a little six issue run. So he represents this connection. So the part that I love is that there’s. There’s kids that are falling in love with Big Hero 6. They’ll maybe at one point in their lives then discover Silver Samurai and then realize Silver Samurai was the real inspiration. So essentially, Silver Samurai would have been hero’s brother that dies. And that gets even deeper. I’m going to get into that in a little bit. But.

But he’s Silver Samurai because he was kind of. And he shows up in that Wolverine movie from what, 2008 or whatever it was 9, 10, I don’t remember. Years of all don’t make sense anymore. The Wolverine movie where he goes to Japan, that’s not as good as the comic, right? No, I just pretend that doesn’t exist. The comic book is so, so superior, especially in that, that run while he’s in Japan. It’s got that cool bullet train fight, though it does have that going for it in the movie. Here’s another connection. Honey Lemon. And they don’t.

They don’t really go into the other people on this team. Like, you meet the characters. There’s a Honey Lemon in here, but she’s just this lady that’s in a lab and now she’s wearing Heroes suit. And she can do cool stuff. But her original invention in the Marvel Big Hero 6 was that she created these microscopic wormholes. And you could put a whole bunch of these microscopic wormholes in a certain place and be able to just kind of like store things and pull things back out in a purse. So she had something called a power purse, which has jokes that I’m not going to get into right now because I don’t have time.

But Honey Lemon’s power purse was basically Mary Poppins purse. And so, like, here’s like another weird connection where Disney’s like, we have someone, by the way, we have someone with a scientific Marvel comic book version of what Mary Poppins had. It was a. It’s. I almost feel that there could be a Mary Poppins Honey Lemon crossover at some point. Now I have to talk A little bit more about Drymon. That’s the robot cat from the future. It doesn’t have ears. I mentioned where his collar looks a little bit like Baymax 1. That series is weirdly like you’d look at it and you’re thinking of something like, you know, like not Garfield, but feel.

I’m thinking Felix, since we’re talking about magic purses. Yeah. Anyway, he’s got a pouch on the front of him where he can just pull any gadget you need out of. So yeah, Felix. I think Felix might have started that whole thing. Okay. The visual aspect of having a magic bag that you can put big objects in, I’m pretty sure that’s Felix the cat. But yeah, Drymon is a robot, as I mentioned. He’s got the pouch that he can pull things out of. He’s got a door that goes to anywhere. So which I guess is like his personal wormhole.

So that, that might maybe the resonance with Jeff, you know, because Drymon’s very popular here. So maybe Baymax just kind of slips in right now. It’s just different enough that you don’t notice, you know. So here’s the part that Disney did not adopt directly from the Marvel series that the original, I think it was 13. But the 14 year old boy hero, he refused in the comic book series. He’s still a genius. He’s still his Doogie Howser battlebot kid. But he refuses to join the team because he doesn’t want to have anything to do with these guys.

And my, my impression is that The Marvel Big Hero 6, it’s kind of like a suicide squad. It’s like a Japanese bad guy suicide squad where some of them are crazy, some of them are outlaws, but they’re all getting a pass and they’re getting resources because they’re badasses and they know what they’re doing and they want this 13 year old kid to join and he refuses to until his mother is kidnapped by the embodiment, an astral embodiment of those killed in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. So I guess just like it gets dark pretty quick. But all the people that died in Hiroshima, Nagasaki collectively kidnap his mom.

And now he’s like, all right, I need to get my mom back. So this is how. Which is sort of the plot point of Professor Callahan losing his daughter to a different dimension. Right. There’s kind of that, a little bit of that going on. But also instead of Hiro losing his mom, the Hiroshima and Nagasaki in the Disney movie, he loses his brother and his professor to an Explosion. And I almost feel that Disney took what really this was based on Hiroshima, Nagasaki and all these people dying and they’re like, let’s just make the explosion smaller.

Let’s take the explosion that occurred on a city level and make it happen in a building level. But it’s essentially the same thing because now Hiro is thrust into this hero’s journey because of this explosion that took out everyone that he cared for. Which I think is ultimately paying homage to the fact that it was originally Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I mean, this is kind of the, possibly the loosest comic adaptation ever made. I’m trying to think of one that’s like less, you know, fitting with the source material. There’s a 1990 Captain America where Steve Rogers comes from LA.

Yeah. I’d say that the Big Hero 6 is to marvel what Super Mario Brothers 2 is to like Nintendo’s. Oh, the Super Mario Brothers movie. The, the one with. There you go. Mario Brothers movie is another good example where it was like one thing and then it turned into another thing. That was a very enjoyable movie, by the way, even though, because you’re looking, that’s not Super Mario. What is this? But it is. It is pretty fun on its own terms. Dennis Hopper is King Koopa now. What’s going on? AKA Trump. Yeah, so do recommend that one.

But yeah, that’s not a comic adaptation, that’s a video game adaptation. So I, I think Big Hero because in that Captain America, the 1991 with. Was it J.D. solinger’s son plays Steve Rogers. That’s weird. Anyway, that’s. This one fits even less because we at least get Captain America and something that resembles a Captain America costume in there where like you said, Baymax is a freaking dragon, which we do see. But it’s not Baymax here. Right. It’s Fred, the guy that represents the link between the comic book world of Big Hero 6 and the Disney World. One more, one more Drymon thing.

We’re here where Baymax’s boy companion is a genius And Drymon, his 10 year old companion Nobita is a complete. He fails all of his tests and can’t do anything. Drymon has to save him from all, you know, most situations. Oh, so he’s a Shinji. Yes, except dumber. The whole point, nobody is supposed to be like real dumb, you know, like an amusing. Well, he, he has a big dumb friend that’s even dumber. So like, you know, like that can’t talk. Right. You know, because nobody at least can talk well or talk correctly. Ish. Talk proper, damn it.

And also, I, I do, I wish that more writers and TV producers and showrunners had the courage to put dumb kids in shows, because it’s almost like every kid in every show now is some kind of freaking genius, some kind of prodigy. Like, there was a lot of dumb kids when I grew up, and I feel like they probably could also be in shows. That’s one of the reasons that I like the Country Bears more than I should. The movie, I mean, because the kids, everyone’s dumb. Yeah, well, the Cumin kid was smart, but annoying. And then the, and then the, the bear child was, was dumb through the entire movie.

He never gets smarter in the movie. You know, he’s dumb through the whole thing, which is fun. Well, here’s another example. There’s not a single dumb person in this entire movie. Every single person is some sort of a genius. I, I, I don’t think I can say you’re wrong, but I did feel the need just to quickly look over the cast list with no dummies. Yeah, because even Fred isn’t dumb. He’s just an idiot. There’s a difference. He’s, he’s a, he’s a, a Fred. He’s kind of like a stoner comic book nerd, but he’s still working for darpa.

He could be the man in the chair for sure. The police department, Are they dumb? Sure. Yama, the, the gangster, Is he dumb? Yeah, I guess so. But, I mean, but, but if he’s the bad guy at the very beginning that they’re portraying as he would hurt a child, then I guess he’s supposed to be dumb because if he was smart enough, he would have just hurt hero and there would be no movie. They do find that dumb room near the end of the movie where they find where the experiment had happened. They have those stargates.

It looks like Montauk. Good and wrong. And so, you know, military base, just not for you, but for anyone that didn’t catch it, I describe it as a psychedelic cloud realm. So. Yeah. Oh, that’s their dimension. I’m talking about when they first find the, like the laboratory where they did the experiment. And then they turn back on, then they go into the weird psychedelic cloud realm. It reminded me of a level of Psychonauts. I don’t know if you’ve ever played that game. I did, actually, but it’s been quite a while. That sounds about right. Okay. No, I was like, I think I was like, give me the most psychedelic game you can.

And then someone made Me play a bit of Psycho knots. So. Yeah, well, yeah, because Psychonauts is legitimately a good game. And then it also happens to be very psychedelic. And most of the time you’ll find a game that like they leaned all the way into psychedelic. And then you’re like, oh, wait, wasn’t. Am I supposed to be having fun here or just having like a quick 20 minute experience? Yeah, there is a fine line, I can tell you. Games. I got Steam gifted a few games a few months ago, but I don’t. I don’t play games on my laptop, so I haven’t really played them.

But you can tell me if any of these are worth having a look into. I’m probably the worst person for this, but Go. The worst plays well. I got Grindstone, Portal. I know what Portal is. I just haven’t played it. Bro Force, Pony Island, Undertale. I don’t know. Yeah, bro Force is classic 80s arcade, shoot them up kind of style. So if you like the like, it’s. It’s kind of contra. It’s a little bit like contrast. Undertale is supposed to be in any. Yes. Style, like Final Fantasy 1, Final Fantasy 2 kind of game, but woke.

Okay. Just to make it seem like I didn’t go completely off topic. Baymax Video games is Big Hero 6, Battle in the Bay, Nintendo 3DS and DS. I doubt it’s good. Okay, There you go. Now we’re back on track. Yeah, I was just. Yeah, I started the tangent. On the tangent. It seems they never made a particularly good. You can play Baymax on Fortnite, but you can play everybody on Fortnite, I think. Can’t you? Like you and I should be on Fortnite at this point. I think I might be. I think someone put me on Fortnite.

Oh, okay. There we go. See, I wasn’t being sarcastic again. I live in Japan. I don’t do sarcasm anymore. For the most part. I don’t get sarcasm either that. That sometimes. Yeah, I’m gullible as hell now. So you said that Baymax has got a resurgence in the last five years in Japan. Is. Is there a reason. Are they coming out with like a sequel they’re going to be pushing soon or like, why. Why only five years ago and not when the movie. Like I said, I think the ride helped. They made a big push on Merch and it really seems to have been successful.

Right. I’ve been seeing a lot, like teaching kids. I see a lot more Baymax. I mentioned I got the girl that I Teach on Wednesdays and half the time she shows up wearing a have it with a Baymax bag Baymax shirt and yeah, just tons of Baymax stuff. So I think it’s probably the ride and the actual latter day push. It doesn’t sound like a sequel is like super in the works. So I’m sure it’s on their mind, but maybe it’s not the priority because it’s. I mean, you know, Zootopia 2 just came out. Big Hero 6 was successful.

I won like Zootopia successful. Oh yeah. I never did the numbers on this one. I should probably do that. What do we got? I gotta scroll up for that though. Who is this made for? Was this made for like Asian market first and then American market secondary, or do you think that this was still made mostly for America? I think this is one of those times where the word four quadrant probably was spoken in their boardrooms a lot. Okay. It has that vibe to it. You know, girls might like it too because Baymax is cute, which is true.

A lot of girls. The. A lot of the people dancing around the rider are, you know, high school girls. Right? Yeah. So the, the girl with all the Baymax merch, you know. So Japan particularly did kind of catch with some girls too. It I guess did their four quadrant thing. 165 on the budget, 657.8 million on the box office. Okay. California Adventure, I think recently converted their San Francisco area, this San Fran Tokyo, which I don’t know if that’s finished or not. I’ve never been to California Adventure, so I know they’re pushing the Baymax button there a little harder too.

I feel that this movie too, I mean, great, if they made profit on it. I’m sure they’re very happy about that. But also this solidifies Disney putting their actual toe into the healthcare industry. Because you’re going to have children right now that grew up that saw Baymax. You know, they were. When they were like, I don’t know, between five and 10, what, 10 years ago, 15 years ago. And now when they get older, especially as they get old enough that they’ll be in the hospital most time when they get into like their 70s, 80s, 90s, like I could legitimately see Disney rolling out real Baymaxes.

It doesn’t seem like technology that is completely infeasible to exist. And this is just feels like they’re slowly dialing that up a little bit so that they can reposition themselves into a more active health care role. Have you heard of I need to look up the name to make sure I have it right. Cateno. Do you know what Cateno is? Cateno? I don’t think so. No. Oh, okay. First, I just want to go back just a little bit in San Fran. Tokyo Square at California Venture. Actually opened two years ago, but it doesn’t have a ride.

It just has a bakery tour and a Carl Strauss Brewing Company. A couple other restaurants. It just has restaurants, so no ride. Coutinho. This is something actually we should maybe look into more. Is near Palm Springs. It’s a planned community by Disney, which is going to have story living. So you can pay, like, however, what exorbitant amount and go live in the desert and be surrounded by princesses all day. I guess, like, they have a house themed to the. The par house. How do you spell this? Catino. C O T, I, N, O. So, yeah, Katina.

And yeah, it’s. So this is Disney. I mean, maybe it’s like they’re like looking at their forecast and you know what? These. These parks and movies are going to be failing 20 minutes in the future. Maybe we should get into real estate. Maybe that’s a place, you know, hey, you’re having story living. Here’s a Baymax robot that’ll pump you with some oxycontin. I mean, here he just has to show you the little chart. You point to the 10 on the pain scale and you’re good to go. That’s right. It’s like that little button they give you in the hospitals or whatever.

But yeah, so that actually is a phase because they. That’s considered. Coutinho is considered to be part of the Disney theme park system. So it’s not like Celebration, where it’s like, well, let’s make a town and we’ll plan the community town. It’s like, this is. This is a theme park you can live in. That means that There’s a Club 33 Catino. Ooh. Well, I think if you live in Catena, you probably have enough money to have a club. Maybe. But. But every. Every different park has its own Club 33 membership. I think the whole. Maybe the whole place is the Club 33.

I was actually. I’ll shout out. I was listening to podcast the ride where they did an episode about this recently. That’s why I’m bringing it up. And the guy tried to go. He calls to like, hey, you know, can I get a tour? Because you can’t just walk around. It’s an actual gated community. Right. They’re like, no, maybe call the night before. It calls the night before. No, he shows up. No, we’ll show you the movie. So he gets to see the movie, which they. They said he was entertained by what he saw at the preview center.

But just trying to get a tour of the place apparently was, like, near impossible. I mean, I still think that they would have their own Club 33, which just means it’s even more exclusive. Oh, right, okay. Like Club 33. Four of the Club 33 members. Correct. Like Club 666. Maybe that’s what I call it. Oh, the other thing. And let’s. Let’s credit the podcast. Right? This is fun. They were talking and this is not a conspiracy show at all. But they brought up the thing. Did you guys even hear the Smoke Tree Ranch before? About five years ago, the idea of maybe like Disney kind of started just showing Walt with the pin.

Smoke Tree Ranch. Oh, Smoke Tree Ranch was a thing. So now people are like, oh, yeah, we want to go live in this kind of ranch in the desert. Like, it’s kind of warming people up, planting it. Yeah, it’ll be like when Watt had a Smoke Tree Ranch. And I mean, we’ve brought it up before on this show. Right. And. But they’re like, have you ever made. And I’m like, well, I didn’t hear about that until somewhat recently, I think. So they were joking. And there might not be any real smoke to that fire, but it did cross the mind.

You know, I did plant that as a memory for everyone. I do like that in this, like, story. Storybook living or whatever they call it, that you could get a no mobile to come and pick you up. Ooh, hey, you know, why not? They gotta come up with stuff. The other thing they mentioned in the episodes, he was like, my wife and I, we wouldn’t want to. Even if we had the money, we went. We wouldn’t want to live there now. We want to live there in 20 years when Disney sold it. It’s all run down and weird.

Yeah. Pennies on the dollar, too. Yeah, it’s like, you know, like another salt and sea sort of situation maybe Disney is constructing for themselves. They built a giant fake lagoon as well, with like, it’s like chlorinated or something. There’s an interesting rabbit hole to go down on Disney real estate because I remember when we watched the Haunted Mansion and they were real estate dealers in the movie and they were selling some house and the house was a real address and you could actually go and rent the house right now and. And it’s within driving distance from Disney.

So it’s an entirely themed Disney Haunted Mansion house, not licensed by Disney, but that you can stay there and then go to Disney. Like, just Disney acknowledging places and locations creates, like its own little community. Well, like on their. On Disney’s cruise ships, things they do, and I know they’ve. They have like some crazy haunted mansion bar with lots of like, special effects and things like on the ship, you know, so they, you know, because you’re on the Disney cruise, you got to see the show. You got to see something that feels like a miniature ride, don’t you? They don’t have the casinos, so you’re not doing that.

Yeah. Are you a Disney adult? Well, we’ve got the perfect thing for you. Just because they have like, Margaritaville retirement communities, it does seem like a Disney Margaritaville would make more sense. That might be what Catino basically is, you know, except that you’re not going to put like the swinger loofahs on your. Your doors or whatever. I think they still would put the swinger loofahs, although I don’t know. Disney does such a really. They spend a lot of time and resources separating themselves from death. And I don’t know how you start a retirement community and not start to become associated with death.

So Coutinho, I don’t believe is supposed to be a retirement community, but when it’s like in Palm Springs and it costs that much money, it feels like it’s de facto would be one. You know, we’ll see. We’ll keep an eye on the place. So, you know, I. I feel like we’re going to be watching a fascinating failure, though. I don’t see how that place could work. Have there, have there ever been. Has there ever been a thematic retirement community that works? I mean, I guess the best example is probably something like the villages here in Florida right outside Disney, but it’s not really Disney theme.

And then you’ve got a place called Champions Gate, which is also like a 55 and only community. It might as well be on Disney property. It’s so damn close to it. But still, it’s not really themed. You might have some roads that are named a certain way, but to fully go all out like a, like, again, like a Margaritaville retirement community where everything is themed a very certain way. But then you check back in on them after like 15, 20 years, and it just keeps getting more and more generic as time goes on. And I don’t know if.

If Disney would be able to allow that to Happen because now if you’ve got a dilapidated, bleached, generic Disney thing, it’ll start looking like all those other generic Disney places all over the world that they spend so much time trying to get taken down. Maybe that’s why they build it in the desert. You can memory hold that if you need to. I’m trying to look up Coutinho, Rancho Mirage, a new era of luxury living. I was trying to look up their street names, but I’m looking at a plant, a legend, and I can only see the streets around it, but not the streets in there.

So. Okay. Anyway, usually by this point I’m like, hey, is there any, you know, conspiracy stuff you want to pull a thread on? And we’ve done a lot of that already, I think, in this one. But if you got something we have not hit, you know, go for it. I think my big one really was just that this movie is like a kid friendly version of Hiroshima and Nagasaki Explosion. It just localizes it down on like a micro level. But I think, I really do think that that’s not just me putting this on here. This is the writers trying to figure out how to capture some of the seriousness of the original Marvel series and then put it into this movie.

Considering that they’re making an animated, you know, four quadrant Disney film, I’d say they actually did a pretty good job with that. You know, just focusing on Baymax as this new character. Pretty good job. Doesn’t. I mean, that point’s not really an adaptation at all anymore. So you’ve now created a new character that just shares the name of, you know, someone else. Yeah, I’m conflicted. I mean, it’s not like we, we ever have to sit here and actually do like a movie review of these. We just kind of point out all the interesting side details that you might not know otherwise.

But like, review wise, it’s a great movie, it’s a serviceable movie. But if it’s supposed to be an ensemble movie, I don’t really remember or care about any of the characters other than Baymax. So yeah, because I feel like this one could have a sequel that’s better than this one. Yeah, Wreck It Ralph. We got Vanellope, we got Fix It Felix, we got King Candy, there’s lots of memory. We got the, the. I don’t remember Jane. Was it the. The. The Milit. The military space marine whose husband. And Wreck It Ralph is. Was. Is a genius way of approaching this because within each game, each game can have a badass or two or three Right.

And in this movie, it’s just Baymax. And he’s not really necessarily a badass. He’s just like a big marshmallow. No, I was looking through the voice cast. I was like, oh, Go Go Lemon was in this. What do you know? I didn’t even notice. There. I’ve forgotten the name already. Gogo Curry is a restaurant. Isn’t in Japan, by the way. And isn’t. Isn’t Tamago like a salmon roe? Oh, Tamago’s egg. Oh, just a regular egg. Okay, so her name is Go Go Egg. Yeah, basically, yes. Yeah, I mean, we got Gudetama. That’s a Sanrio character. That’s like a sleepy egg yolk.

If you’ve seen Gyutatama, we’ll have to cover that on the next episode. Yeah, I guess we can start wrapping this one up then. The lot here. Yeah, I guess it is a little more insidious. That. That is just kind of like. Kind of like if we’re programming kids with Disney movies, it’s like, well, here. Here’s the foundation of your techno reality where, you know, get ready. Yeah, yeah. Again, since it was based on World War II, I still think that. I don’t care what the writers room came up with and said 1908, and they had a resurgence after.

No, this is a World War II movie, and it’s about the Nazis winning, and it’s about Japan taking over America and forcing us to fight robots with each other. That’s essentially what this movie is about. It’s better than the man in the High Castle TV show. Book’s great, by the way. But, yeah, the TV show I got real boring real quick, at least for me. Maybe there’s the defenders of the show. Not here. Yeah, I know someone that worked on the pilot, but then they didn’t rehire him for the rest of the series, so I don’t.

I don’t care. Screw. That was. The pilot was great. Yeah. That’s one of those ones where I was like, because I love the books. I watched the pilot, and about two episodes later, one, it’s like, well, this isn’t the book. And two, it’s. This isn’t that interesting. And I just kind of gave up. You know why? Because the most interesting outcome already happened. America won World War II and nothing bad happened, and we weren’t involved with anything bad. No, no, of course. America. Yeah. Oh, that diffused one thought I had. Yep, yep. You. You. You. You mind wiped me.

Oh, well, that’s. That’s what America does. Best, so you’re welcome. Got mine wiped. Oh. Oh, well, it was gonna be interesting. Final thoughts or do we roll into plugging it? Yeah, go. What are your plugs? My plugs? Let’s go with the music plug today. That’s roving sage media.bangkamp.com I make binaural beats to reprogram your brain and make you forget things. You can listen to those. There’s like 25 minute, you know, weird chill outs or something. Some psychedelic rock, some folk rock, even a few covers here and there. Go check that out. What you cooking? Okay, well, if we’re doing music today, go pop on over to wherever you listen to music, if it’s Spotify or Pandora or itunes, whatever, and search for sound scientists in another life.

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