Disney Accidentally Revealed How Secret Societies Work in Monsters University (2013)

➡ The text is a conversation about Disney’s Monsters University, comparing it to other movies and discussing its merits. The speakers appreciate the film’s unique music, pacing, and the fact that it’s a prequel. They also discuss the concept of prequels and their personal preferences for different types of movies. They conclude that Monsters University is a top-tier Disney film, despite some people’s dislike of prequels.
➡ The discussion revolves around the creation and success of the Monsters Inc. sequel, Monsters University. The speakers appreciate the film’s music and its departure from typical Disney movies. They also discuss scrapped sequel ideas and the film’s release date, which was delayed due to competition with Twilight. The film was a commercial success, earning over $700 million, and one of the speakers worked on the related video game.
➡ The text discusses a movie that uses advanced 3D animation techniques, making it visually appealing and less distracting. The film, possibly a Pixar production, uses a new lighting system called global illumination, which creates a more realistic and uniform shading. The story also explores the origin of characters, which the writers find interesting to share, although the audience may not always find it as engaging. The text also mentions a character named Sully, who might be named after a pilot, and another character, Mike, who is portrayed as a mastermind in scaring people.
➡ The text discusses the inconsistencies in the Monsters Inc. series, particularly the relationship between Mike and Sully. It also delves into the concept of secret societies and initiation rituals, as depicted in Monsters University, comparing them to real-life fraternities and Masonic lodges. The text further explores the changes made to movies post-release, using Star Wars as an example, and the potential influence of these changes on audiences. Lastly, it touches on the idea of pranks and humor within serious contexts, like initiation rituals.
➡ The text is about a person’s experiences in the Boy Scouts and their desire for badges and sashes. They also discuss their completionist tendencies in video games and theme parks. The conversation then shifts to the lack of team sports movies in Disney’s animated catalog, despite their success in live-action sports films. They suggest that Disney could profit from creating an animated team sports movie.
➡ In a bid to avoid expulsion from school, a group of students join a weak fraternity and participate in the Scare Games, a series of tests based on their curriculum. Despite winning the games, two students, Sully and Mike, get expelled due to cheating and lack of scariness respectively. However, they manage to scare a group of girls and adults, generating a significant amount of fear. Despite their expulsion, they eventually get hired at Monsters, Inc., starting from the mail room and gradually getting promoted to Scarers.
➡ The text discusses the characters and events in a movie, likely a Monsters Inc. sequel. The characters, mostly monsters, have regular names and are voiced by famous actors. The main event is the Scare Games, a series of challenges testing skills like pain tolerance, stealth, and scaring ability. The text also explores the idea of harvesting fear from adults, suggesting it could be more efficient than making children laugh, as shown in the original Monsters Inc. movie.
➡ In this discussion, the speakers analyze the movie Monsters University, comparing it to its predecessor, Monsters Inc. They discuss how the actions in the Scare Simulator affect the characters, particularly Sully and Randall Boggs. They also debate whether the movie could stand alone without the context provided by Monsters Inc., concluding that while Monsters University is a fun film, it benefits from the exposition and character development established in the first movie.
➡ The speaker discusses their thoughts on various movies, including Monsters University and the Sixth Sense, comparing their rewatchability. They also mention their preference for formulaic movies if done well. They briefly discuss a work conversation about snails and their speed. Lastly, they promote their graphic novel and podcast, which cover a range of topics from conspiracy theories to old TV shows.
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Boo. Who’s that? Actually, Boo’s not in this movie, but it’s me, the paranoid American, to remind you that scaring is caring. That’s right. The pause there is because I scared you, correct? Correct. I was recovering from that very scary face that you made. That’s right. Monsters University a prequel to Monsters, Inc. How do you feel about prequels? I have some friends that really hate prequels. They, you know, friends that don’t like prequels, friends that don’t like biopics. Don’t have to deal with the latter here, but I guess we are in very firm prequel land here. You know what, man? I think I’m beyond not liking things.

If I don’t like it, maybe I’ll just stop watching. Or ignore. I guess in this series, sometimes I do have to watch things that aren’t the greatest. But I’m all about finding reasons to like stuff. And this one is actually easy for me. I think that this movie is top 10 Disney tier. I don’t care that it’s a prequel. I think that it works as a prequel because they even do some good retconning. They like go back and they explain, for example, like where some of these beefs come from that you see in the second Monsters, Inc.

So I don’t know. I. I think this is. As far as prequels go, this is one of the better prequels out of any movie that you could pull up. I. I was actually that. It was a bit of a loaded question. I was going to say this one really doesn’t bother me as a prequel because anyone starring this movie, if you think Mike and Sully are going to be in mortal danger and die in this movie, that’s never going to happen. Even the mortal danger they’re in at the end of the movie, you know, we know that humans touching them, well, I don’t know.

The police, I guess could shoot a hole through them. So that could be a problem. But you know, like, being touched is generally like when it’s just spoiler straight to the end where they are in a girls camp, but they getting touched won’t matter. That doesn’t matter for them. You know, getting shot by the fuzz might, so. But you know they’re not going to die in this, right? Well, I think the danger is less about them. It’s about the entire monster universe. Because if humans get through one of these doors, allegedly, which we also know is false, that the whole entire monster world kind of comes crashing down.

So I don’t. Again, I don’t. It doesn’t bother me at all knowing that they have to survive because it’s a sequel and. Or because it’s a prequel. Because monsters incomes out and they’re fine and they’ve got jobs and they’re Scarers. Right. And that’s the whole premise of this movie. So more than anything, it’s kind of like my best analogy here is this is a sports movie. This is basically Rudy. This is Major League. This is Any Angels in the Outfield. It’s. It’s about this underdog. It’s a literal team. An underdog team that comes together and the very end of this movie is.

Even takes place on a football field. So they kind of conjure up these underdogs. So. And when you go and see most of those movies, I know, like, every once in a while, Hollywood will be like, actually, this is a sports movie where the. The team full of, like, cripples loses at the end. Right. Just because we’re going to do it that way. But usually, you know that the underdog team that you’re watching a movie about is going to win at the end. But that doesn’t ruin sports movies usually, right? Yeah, it is a bit of a hybrid movie because you’re, you’re mentioning, like, Rudy and stuff.

I’m thinking more like Animal House or Revenge of the Nerds. That’s. I guess that, that’s more of like what I was watching growing up. And you can say what you want to about Revenge of Nerds. Yes. There’s. There’s problematic things, sure. But I saw that movie an awful lot, so I know it quite well. Animal House, I mean, you know, that’s, that’s funly, funnily offensive. Which Monsters University, of course, cannot be offensive. They have to make the most milk token version of the jokes you would get in those movies. I, I have to be sacrilege here, but I guess that’s what we’re here for is to.

To put out controversial opinions sometimes. I, I always thought the Animal House was incredibly vanilla. And I’ve heard that that was just because I’m a millennial or I’m a Gen Xer. And I just didn’t get how risque the movie was at the time. But even when I first saw it, when I was probably, like, 14 or 15, I. I mean, I had already seen Kids by Larry Clark. Okay. You know, Yeah, I had. I had seen some things, man. And when I saw Animal House, I was like, did I just see the Mormon version of this movie? Like, what? Where’s the one that gets all of these praises and all of these? Like, it was so controversial, I guess, for its time.

Even American Pie, or you watch that and it’s not right. It’s got. It’s got a couple of quote unquote, offensive scenes, but the movie’s generally kind of sweet, you know, it’s not a particularly vitriolic film. I mean, this is an ear, you know. Gee, what is a nicely, truly offensive comedy? If you’re laughing, is it really offensive? I don’t know the original Saddles today, but everybody. Still. Not everybody, but most people, I think, still love to watch Blazing Saddles. I love to watch Blazing Saddles. I think Blazing Saddles is a good example of offensive comedy. Pretty much most of Mel Brook stuff.

Spaceballs is maybe a little bit mainstream for that. Yeah. I put on Robin Hood Men and Tights when I was going to sleep a few weeks ago, but I think I actually fell asleep 10 minutes in. So that’s where we got Dave Chappelle. Can’t. Yeah, can’t get. Can’t get back to you about my current opinion of that movie because I didn’t see enough of it, so. Oh, you’ve never seen Robin Hood Men in tights before, then? Oh, I’ve seen it. It’s just. It’s probably like. It was the early 90s when I saw it last, you know, so it’s the Mel Brooks I’ve probably seen, like, the least.

There was another silly Robin Hood movie that came out around that same time, too, that I think was. Got more praise for being slightly better. I can’t remember what the hell it was, though. I’m just sitting here thinking. I mean, there’s a Costner one, which I’d say Rickman’s funnier than. Than Richard Lewis is the Sheriff, but okay, I could see that. Yeah. Oh, dude, the Kevin Costner Robin Hood movie was awesome. We already went into this in the Robin Hood episode. What a great movie. I think I watched that movie since we did The Robin Hood episode though, and I, I just, I.

Because I found it on, you know, one of those used Blu Ray things a few months ago and I watched it again like maybe three months ago and I. Yeah, that movie’s fun. It’s great for a long move. Okay, let’s move on. We can. I don’t want to get totally Monsters University. I’ve seen a lot too. This is one like it came 2013, late 2013, probably by the end of 2013, early 2014 it was. Were watching at home. Because like I said, Past 2010 I just have not seen these movies in theaters. But we watched Monsters University probably at least half a dozen times.

So we, we were into this one and I, I don’t think I’ve got too much bias playing into how much I like this movie. I think legitimately it’s a fun, good movie. There’s a, there’s a few key things that I think that make it better than most. A. There’s, as far as I could tell, there’s no needle drops in this movie. The music is custom made for it and it’s so natural with the type of music they pick. And the pacing again, even at the end, it takes place on this football field and the music slowly morphs into sort of like a marching band style.

And then when the credits roll, it goes full college like sports team, marching band. And the credits on the way in and the credits on the way out are just great. I mean it’s reminds me maybe not as good as the credits in Robin Hood, you know, coincidentally, but this one is up there like the whole like as the movie starts to play and even through the very end of the credits, the entire thing is kind of seamless. Well, they had to match up with the first with Monsters Inc. Because that had that whole like kind of 60s mid century modern, you know, like swinging credit sequence.

So they gotta do something here. Did the first Monsters Inc. Have any needle drops? Like any. I don’t. Music drops. Okay. I think it’s Randy Newman, who I guess is already technically a pop musician. Seventh collaboration. He did Monsters Inc. He did this one. So it’s just like call Newman and you know, he’ll throw in a song if you want. And I, I do like that. We don’t really, because even Toy Story, they don’t sing the songs. But we do have to have the montage to like, you know, Randy Newman at a sad piano or something where this, this doesn’t even bother with that really, which I like.

So I don’t Think he sings on this one? Does he? Do he Maybe ending credits? No, he didn’t sing. No, I don’t think so, man. I was paying fairly more close attention than usual, and I didn’t hear any lyrics in the music, and I really like that. I think that it’s what makes this so much better than other Disney movies that you could put in the same category. I can roll through a little bit of production stuff. We were talking back when we did Toy Story 3, and we haven’t done Finding Dory yet, but we’re going to get there.

How? All the Pixar movies in the late 2000s, like from about 2005, 2007, had the Circle 7 studio where they were going to do Disney made sequels to all the popular Pixar movies. So this. This did have one on the cooker that was going to be Monsters Inc. 2 lost in Scaradise. Mike and Sully visit the human world to give Boo a birthday present, only to find that she had moved. They get trapped in the human world. They get pissed each other, split off for a while, you know, come back, save each other, blah, blah, blah.

I mean, I don’t know. It might be a mildly entertaining movie, but I definitely feel like we’re getting something better here. The Toy Story 3 picture Buzz gets recalled to, like, Shanghai, and then they go to Shanghai. I’m like, I. I wouldn’t hate seeing that movie, you know? Yeah. Honestly, I think that this was the best sequel that they could have done out of any of the other ideas that I’ve heard of or prequel. Sorry. It’s. I mean, technically, it’s. It’s a sequel on paper, but it’s a prequel and story. Right. Because. Yeah. Comes before, so.

Right. But I mean, but it’s also the second one, so I don’t know. I still think that Star Wars 4 is really Star Wars 1. Fight me. And you do have the. I mean, in this case, the voice character, because sometimes you do a prequel, it’s like we have to recast. Recently on my films and films podcast, we had to do Dumb and Dumber, where Harry met Lloyd, where they had other people playing for whatever reason. I went on a kick and I rewatched all the Dumb and Dumbers, and that one was so much worse than I remember it being when it first came out.

But the scenes of Bob Saget responding to chocolate that he thinks is poop, those. Those scenes were gold. Like you said, look for the good thing. And Bob Saget just losing it. Right. The best part, though, is Literally during the credits when they’re showing all the different outtakes of Bob Saget in that one scene. But this, the scene in the movie was just so. It’s like you just roll your eyes so hard that this movie literally made for seven and eight year olds. That was what the movie was made for. So is Monsters University, but it’s much better.

I don’t know about that, man. Everybody. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would say when Harry met Lloyd, there was no one thinking that I guess maybe they were all 40 year olds making it. So I’m sure that they probably thought they would enjoy it. Yeah. So anyway, we’ll talk about the better movie. But yes, Lost and Scared Ice. Do I like that title? I don’t know. Probably not. So, yeah, Circle seven doesn’t make anything if you remember, so it doesn’t matter. This one came out later. They were going to put out a year earlier, but apparently the Twilight Saga, Breaking dawn part, Part two made them scared and it ended up getting released in the middle of a 2013, which I don’t know.

Like they didn’t want monsters you to compete with Twilight. Yeah. Which honestly I feel like the people going to see monsters and people going to see that. Are you. I think that’s a, that could be effective counter programming maybe. I, you know, I’ve never been a fan of going to the movies and going to the theater. I, I don’t understand the mentality. If you’re already a person that goes to the movies, wouldn’t you just go twice? Wouldn’t you just go see both movies? Or are there people out there that are like, nope, I already saw a movie this month.

I cannot go next month. There’s no budgeting. You stick to your budget. You might do that, you know, I mean, yeah, I guess. But if, if you really just want to go and see a movie, you could probably go and see a movie for 10 or 15 bucks if you go for like a matinee. So I don’t think anyone’s having to give plasma to see two movies a month instead of one. If you, if you got 15 in expendable cash, you probably got $30 in expendable cash. Yeah, no, I, I would, yeah, I, I would go see two big releases, but there are movies I did not see when they came out because they got like bad reviewed or just had bad word of mouth.

And then I see them years later, I’m like, why did I skip that? You know, that’s actually great. So you’re the problem. You ruined movies, ruined Movies. I ruined Monsters University by not going to see it dubbed into Japanese in the movie theater. Well. Well, was this one a successful movie? Oh, yeah. Oh, God, yes. This was a massive. These Pixar sequels do make bank, which is, I guess, sequel or prequel. See, it’s easy. No. A 200 million budget, which is insane, but then 743.6 million box office. So even once you’re considering all the marketing stuff, you’re still, you know, you can still take a Uncle Scrooge money dive.

And. And that number, I assume, does not include all the backpacks and Hershey bars and video games that come out. And speaking of this, this is one of the last big Disney projects that I worked on that like, has like, name appeal. Everything else was, you had to. To know, like, intricate little Disney stuff because it was for parks. This one, I got to work on the video game for. For Monsters. You. This was like a year and a half of my time. So this one, I don’t know if anything, it might have made me biased to not like it because when I was working on this, I didn’t want to see the movie.

Like, I didn’t really care about seeing it. I saw it, I think, like four or five years after it had come out, just because I was already inundated with all this monsters you stuff. I almost felt like kind of like cars. It almost felt like little kid stuff. And then when I actually get around to watching it, I get like an. A newfound appreciation for it. I think I. I think I. Yeah, Uniqlo had the monsters used up. I think I had a T shirt and I had a hat, so I was wearing goofier clothes when my daughter’s like 4 years old because, you know, she’d be entertained if this Mike Scully’s on.

Mike Scully. I just put his name on Mike. Now I can’t. I lost his name because I said Sully Scully. My brain’s exploding. Anyway, I had a monster university. Mulder Scully was his name. Water Scully was name. Watching the X Files. Mike Kowalski. Did I get it okay? Just. Just trying to do it because I feel like there’s a certain badge of honor to be able to spit out his name because 2 year olds can do it, so you should be able to do it. That’s because Boo can say it, but so can other two year olds, you know, And Japanese two year olds can handle his name, which is wild.

There is some mind programming for you. What does it sound like? A Japanese child saying Mike Kowalski. It’s got accent on It. Yeah, they’re not. They’re not giving it to you in a perfect American accent. Polish. I believe it’s a Polish name. Yeah. Well, it’s the driver and Vanishing Point, I think. Kowalski. There’s a primal scream song called Kowalski. That might be one of the reasons I can remember it so well, because it’s the, you know, 70s film character, which is. That’s a cool. I don’t know if that’s specifically where the name came from, but it’s kind of cool if it did.

It’s. He’s driving his, you know, insane sports car across the country with the. The cops chasing them or something, and there’s, like, almost no talking. It’s weird. New Hollywood moody stuff. Vanishing Point recommend. Do they name Sully after the pilot? Because the pilot was able to scare an entire plane full of people. That was after the first Monsters, Inc. So, no. Okay. But I did get very confused when that movie came out because I had forgotten about the pilot’s name. And then there’s Tom Hanks, and he’s kind of looking. It’s a Toy Story voice, and it gets confusing after a while.

Yeah. This one. This one’s John Goodman, though, right? John Goodman. Right, right. That’s why I’m saying. Yeah, I had to mention a Toy Story. So seeing Tom Hanks standing there looking like a grizzled. Not a monster, but looking hairy, and then it says Sully. And then I’m like, what? Huh? Not. Yeah, Missing that crucial bit of information. It’s a kind of a biopic thing going on there. Or a real life story, at least. Not a real life story. Pretty sure about that. Along with the production here, too. This one feels like they’ve. They have fully graduated to using the 3D as not just like a novel medium, but now it’s actually an extension of the storytelling.

There’s very little where I’m. I’m picking apart, like, oh, that shadow looks weird, or that shading looks weird. Like, everything they’ve. I’ve kind of dialed it into this point where it’s no longer a distraction for me, which is a huge hurdle that I have to get over with a lot of these early 3D Disney movies. This is the first one that kind of passes the test. Well, this is the first Pixar film that use global illumination. A new lighting system introduced. Blah, blah, blah. Anyway, the whole point is, before they would have to manually go in and add shadow textures where this digitally creates a light source and then just does it.

That’s why it looks like that. So they did not have to manually guess if the shadow looked good there. Apparently in the past, they were just like, does the shadow look good here? I guess so. Leave it in here. It’s just like, let the computer do it. Yeah, yeah. Previously, you would actually have to usually stage specific lights and specific shadows and then just keep adding additional lights until the whole scene looked kind of like, universally lit. And sometimes you could just make one huge light, but until they, like, started advancing the way that the rendering would work, making one huge light in the background just makes, like, a whole bunch of little lights and sends these little, like, simulated photons all the way through.

So global illumination allows you to make, like, a sun and let this one central point of light blast everywhere and have, like, a uniform shading applied to everything. If I want to continue sounding smart, the tech. So global illumination uses path tracing, which does exactly what you just said, but then you can condense that all down to path tracing. So, yeah, the backgrounds in this do look like 2% away from photorealistic, but not really in an Uncanny Valley sort of way, probably because we’re still looking at a monster world. There’s a lot of darkly lit scenes in this movie.

I don’t think any previous Pixar or. Or Disney CGI film has had particularly dark scenes. Because Tangled, when we did Tangled, when they’re in that mine, it’s just dark. And you see their eyes, right. They don’t try and do dim animation where this has a lot of it. The final sequence in the movie is. I love how it’s lit. And the cinematography is almost, you know, like a Friday the 13th movie, right? Yeah. Well, they do show up and. And it’s a haunted sort of cabin on the lake, right? Yeah, it’s totally a Friday 13th, except it’s not scary for children because Jason is now your best friend.

The end was kind of interesting because it shows you that they could have gone scary if. If someone just went into the office one day and they were like, screw it all. This is an R movie now. Guys go to town, they show that they kind of have the chops that they could have made it fairly scary. Like, I. I really love how. And. And I think that this is the entire point of the movie is the show how Mike is kind of this mastermind, sadist, right? He’s maybe not scary himself, but he’s like an orchestrator of being scary.

He’s kind of like a Phil Spector in a way. Right. And in order to, like, put this whole thing together, as he’s walking around this cabin, he would like just naturally he’ll kind of move the curtains a little bit and then like a, like a doll will come to life and walk across the room and fall down and like start speaking all slow. Like. He is an absolute master in scaring people. And I think that he kind of represents like this is the animation room at Disney. Like they are Mike. Yeah, well, he’s the man in the chair, isn’t he? I mean, they even say that title or I think Sully says that to him at the end.

Like you’re basically, you’re the perfect man in the chair, which is what he does. So the brains and the Scare itself, I do like that they build that dynamic. And that’s what a good prequel will do. It will make the original film better. So when you know the dynamic is created in this film and you can see it in Monsters Inc. Again, it’s. It makes a little more sense, like in a good way. So. And I mentioned too, we get some other like, interesting retcon stuff. So we found find out that Randall Boggs, who is the little lizard dude that can go invisible that you kind of.

He kind of feels like a villain in the second movie, but it’s because he’s hard of seeing. Right. That was like one of the funny things. But in this one you do learn that he’s got a bone to pick with Sully and Mike and it’s all because of the very end of this movie that they essentially beat him. And he kind of makes this oath to himself where he’s like, you know, he. They make an enemy of Randall Boggs in this prequel. So now it makes more sense why he acts like that in Monsters Inc. And I don’t know, it was not ham fisted in there.

It was done like really cleverly. Yeah, it did just have a whiff of. Steve Hashemi is available and is willing to do the movie though. Like if, like, if he wasn’t available, I mean they easily could. They could have left that out without changing the movie much, you know. Yeah. Fan service. It is fun to see him pink with the hearts, of course. But I like, it is interesting. What, what do we need from a prequel? So like Star wars, we definitely didn’t need to see, you know, Darth Vader as a, as a 10 year old.

I. I will maintain Star Trek. They’ve recently really been going like, here is Kirk and Spock meeting. Here is Scotty meeting everyone. It’s kind of like, do we. Probably not. Because it’s it’s a workplace drama. It doesn’t really matter at the. At its art. Right. Star Trek’s a workplace drama. So does it really matter where they came from so much? You know what it is because I’ve been in these writers rooms before. What happens is that there’s so much time and effort that goes into the origin story of every character that you see on the screen.

Like, I guarantee there’s probably an entire book series worth of information about each of the character, at least the main character. Sully and Mike, they’ve probably got volumes of like where they were born and where they came from and all these things that happening throughout their lives. And none of that information usually makes it into the outside world except for in the form of special release DVD commentation editions and maybe like little ancillary like coffee table books that’ll come out. But other than that, all that work is kind of like never presented to the end audience.

And, and what I’m getting at is that the writers that are on these projects, they desperately want to show you these origin stories because it’s like, it’s where it all came from. Man. We spend so much time making this so cohesive. But rarely are origin stories really that interesting. It’s way more interesting for a writer to tell an origin story than it usually is for the audience to hear the origin story. Well, one I’ll just take throughout the comic book example. The more you go into Wolverine’s origin story, the less you should have gone to Wolverine’s origin story story.

He’s a better character without much of an origin. So just throwing that out there. I’ve been reading some X Men. Yeah, but when, when you get popular enough, then you know they can’t help themselves. You can’t help yourself to make it into. Let’s just make an entire series about his many different origin stories. Now let’s send him to Japan. Although they didn’t have that much written out for the original Monsters Inc. Dan Scanlon was the director of this and one of his bugaboos making this is because they’d come up with the Monsters University idea. But there’s a line in the first movie where Mike tells Sully, you’ve been jealous of my good looks since the fourth grade.

Especially in an Internet world where people are going to call you out on that. He was like, is that a problem? And he’s like, but I don’t want to make Monsters Elementary. That wouldn’t be a good movie. And you couldn’t get Billy Crystal and John, maybe you could. Maybe Monsters voice has never changed. Anyway, Monsters elementary sounds crappier. So in the end he was like, ah, maybe it’s just like in, in his head Cannon. He was just like, maybe that’s just what monsters say to each other is like a general like you know, like ribbing you phrase.

He can say that, but that doesn’t pass mustard. If anything, they, they’ve left an inconsistency in the fabric of Monsters Inc. Here because it seemed to really bother the director that he knew about that inconsistency. And he was like, but I, I. That you gotta let it go. You keep. You gotta let it go. So you let it go. You know, it is inconsistent though because they, they, they definitely establish that Mike and Sully don’t know each other when this, this first happens, I think. Right. Well, his other thing was it is more interesting for them to meet as adults rather than meeting like.

I guess you could have had Sully in that class in the beginning. But it’s, it is, I think it’s. He is correct. It’s more interesting when they don’t know each other in this movie. I think, again, I appreciate that that amount of thinking went into this. Even if they missed something, he knew what they missed. Like the script supervisor did their job properly. Well, speaking of Star wars again, Obi Wan. Right. Well, I was telling you the truth in a certain kind of way when I said in the first movie or the fourth movie or whatever that Darth Vader killed your father.

Right. Because that was like, well, the story changed after that. So Ghost Obi Wan trying to explain it to you later because people are like, hey, that doesn’t work. I feel like Lucas and Cameron, I can’t trust them because they, they actually go in and change movies after they’ve been released and that like changes critical parts of the storyline. I almost feel like these are probably the most dangerous forms of mind control are Star wars and ET and chemtrails and Jaws. I would still put Star wars and ET above chemtrails. Yeah, no, I just responding to the, the idea that things have been added into DVD releases so people would see a movie from the 60s or 70s.

Oh, they were there back then too. It’s fine. Oh, is that true? Oh, they’re. They’re chemtrails. Have you heard that one? I’ve, I, no, I have not sat down and looked at. Done it myself. I’ve seen screen comparisons, which again, apparently people are claiming a few movies have had chemtrails added digitally. To the background just so that they. Oh yeah. They were there back then too. It would be awesome if they did it in like, pre. Like, like Wright’s Brothers movie actually. Metropolis. You’d get away with it. Well, they wouldn’t know about them in 1925 though, so.

Yeah. Anyway, that. That’s why I was thinking about. You could always. I mean, one nice thing about the Internet is if I do want to watch the. The old school Star wars movies, I got the Blu Rays, but I can get on the Internet and find the D specialized versions where people have, you know, taken on the original footage, tried to clean it up to look nice. And you know, maybe not as nice as the Blu Rays, but I like watching them that way. It’s fun, you know, there you can go down a crazy rabbit hole of.

Of overdubbed Star wars episode or sorry, Star trek episodes. No McClunky. There we go. That was the last big hit on Star Wars. Was it? When guido now inexplicably shouts McClunkey. I. I feel like I’m gonna turn this back to Monster Z really quick. Yeah. Here’s another, I think interesting topic is that the first secret society initiation scene that we’ve seen, I think was in Nemo. At least the first overt initiation scene. You could make arguments for Fantasia and maybe even for Sword in the Stone and stuff. But in Finding Nemo, they actually initiate him into this like, secret club in the middle of the night where they wake him up and they kind of hoodwink them.

In this one, they. They escalate that a little bit. Nor we’ve got sort of a Greek system inside of Monsters U. So there’s different fraternities and secret societies inside of Monsters U. And we also see an initiation sequence. Even though the guy running it, his like, mom comes down and turns the light on and starts doing laundry. And it kind of takes all the. The ambiance out of it. Like it’s no longer feels like a secret thing. But this is. This is absolutely in my mind Disney normalizing and mainstreaming the concepts of occult orders and secret societies.

Yeah, I went to University of Georgia, which has how many students? A lot of students. Like 27, 000. So there’s a. A quite. Or at least one. I assume they still have a very active Greek system, which you could also completely ignore, which is what I did. So my university at night, and I don’t even think I ever went into a dorm house or anything. Like, not a dorm, a frat house. I, you know, I was like, at the radio station, working at the movie theater with the weirdo hipsters, you know, so I. We had it, but I pretty much ignored it.

I mean, it’s. This is basically Freemasonry for drunk college kids. It’s the. It’s the very first step into that direction. And I mean, when we’re talking about the Greek system, just remember, even for every. At like, Atlantean or at Alien, sort of like, I’m gonna call you at Alien, but every. At Alien, Greek drunk out there. There’s also for like every hundred of those, there’s like one Skull and Bones member or a scrolling key or a wolf’s head. So, like, the. The system itself was originally meant to be a Skull and Bones sort of system. It just naturally devolved into crazy frat parties and.

And, you know, college kids getting drunk and kicked out for, like, this is just watered down. Like somewhere way back when was trying to spread this system. But, you know, at this point, it’s just like, will we do this? It’s kind of fun. We. Why do we do it? Because we do it every year. You know, now we’re gonna get drunk. I’m sure plenty of Masonic lodges are, you know, just places to get mildly hammered. Well, that. That’s actually when you get into the Shriners. It’s one of the jokes. It’s like drinking Masons, the Shriners. There we go.

And then if you want to get real crazy, then you join, like, the. The Royal Order. What I was thinking, I said Scientology. I was going crazy in a different direction. I don’t do. Honestly, I don’t think Scientologists have that much fun when you get into levels, I think, in another direction. Well, even upper level Shriners or Masons or. You know, obviously you would have to do a little more like proper pomp and circumstance and as opposed to this basement where the lights get turned on for the laundry, you know, and nobody actually knows what they’re doing anyway.

You know what? There’s absolutely some of that, though. Like, there’s Masonic lodges out there where they’re doing an initiation, I guarantee you. And someone just, like, rips one or like a phone goes off or like they get a knock on the door from, you know, like. Those things definitely happen. It’s like the. The sort of the feel and like the vibe of these esoteric orders. Even in early day freemasonry, if you look, they had catalogs dedicated to sort of like, pranks and stuff. Like the little electric hand buzzers. They would also have little mechanical Goats. So that for someone that’s being initiated in Freemasonry, they feel it’s this like very somber, very serious thing.

And then all of a sudden there’s like a goat chasing them around the room. Like it’s kind of a self aware version of it, which I think lends itself well into devolving into drunk fraternities. Because like, that level that is there, that aspect of it is there, but it’s just very well contained, you would say. Like, it’s, it’s a, it’s, it’s sort of like they know the right amount of moderation in a Masonic lodge to get a little bit crazy. And then the fraternal system that goes to the outside world, there is no, like limit on that.

So it just go balls to the wall. Like fraternal organization. Like all they care about is the fraternal aspect. Yeah, I think I mentioned way back when, you know, I, I was in the Boy Scouts and we had the Order of the Arrow, which has sort of the camping trip, slash, in that case, instead of frat party, slash initiation, cere camping trip, slash, whatever initiation ceremony they do. And I don’t even remember what was happening. Just walking through the woods late at night sort of stuff and people saying stuff. I wanted the sash because then you, you get the Sash of the Arrow and then you could put that on your Boy Scout uniform.

That’s all I wanted. You could move up in that part of the organization too. And I, I didn’t care about that because I already had the Sasha for my uniform. So you, you were just in it for the badges? Yes, for that in particular, Yes, I was in that for the badges or the sash, as I should say. And maybe you got to put a pin or something with your uniform. So, yeah, I was in it for the bling and didn’t stick around once I got the bling. There’s a lot of that. I think that’s, that’s a pretty common.

In game theory, you’d be called a completionist or a collector Completer there. I want to be a completer. I want to be a completer. No, I told you I’d been going to Disney. See, now that I finally knocked out every ride and restaurant I wanted to do, I’m like, I don’t need to go back for anything. Time. Are you one of the people that has to get 100 in GTA? No GTA. You just. I need to get 5 stars of police chasing me with helicopters. You can get that in three, three seconds. Yeah, that’s why the game turned.

That said, you know what I think I was, I haven’t played GTA since like Vice City and San Andreas. Vice City. I think I was trying to push up as close as I get to 100 and San Andreas. I gave up on the flying the model planes level, which if you’ve played the game, you know what I’m talking about. Yeah, yeah, I do. I didn’t do that bad. I think I, I did pretty well in that one. Okay. I gave up there and that’s 60 of the game, so there’s a good 40. I did not do of that.

So. So the other part of this too is that like I was saying this movie is kind of a sports movie. And, and the more that I was watching this, the more I want there to be a proper Disney animated sports movie. Like there hasn’t been one. Right. Like they don’t have a baseball or basketball or football like animated theatrical release ever. And it seems like down the list now. But yeah, it seems like a huge gap because the more I’m watching this, I’m like, man, there’s so many sports movies that have this like cheesy feel, this like underdog, like coming up and getting what they deserve kind of feel.

And Disney seems like they would, they would fit in perfectly. And then I started thinking, well, maybe this is that Maybe Monsters University is their sports movie. Cars. Cars. Does it some. They have, I don’t know, nascar? I don’t know. I don’t know if we can consider it the same. We’re doing planes very soon. I don’t. Wait, plane says an American animated sports comedy film. So we might be doing that real soon. You’re not going to convince me though that flying a plane is a sports movie. I’m talking about like basically a football movie. Football or baseball.

Just the descriptions here. Monsters University is an American animated coming of age comedy film where planes is actually listed as a sportsman. Which cars listed as. Let’s find out what they say for cars. I mean that’s just wiki labeling things. Yeah. Animated sports comedy film. I, I know what you’re saying. You want the team working together. So yeah, I want a locker room scene. I want them to be like 20 points down at halftime and they thought they were going to get great. And then the, the star athlete like breaks his knee halfway in and they have to put in the, the kid that’s been doing like the water the whole time or like the bench boy.

And then they like come back around, an airbud pops out like. Like that movie. It seems that Disney could knock that out of the park. And if they’re going after this male audience, I feel like a Disney football animated movie would probably do well. They’ve really hardcore the live action ones, though, because we have Mighty Ducks plus sequels. You went, isn’t there about Disney? Yeah. So maybe there’s like, they already know this space. But it’s. It’s weird that there’s not an animated version. And I think the closest thing to it is maybe Space Jam. But Space Jam’s not good.

Even the remake of Space Jam was worse than the original Warner Brothers anyway, isn’t it? Yeah. Right. But I’m saying I think that’s the only animated, like, half animated sports movie. There’s really no good animated sports movies. I guess it’s because there’s so many moving parts. Like, again, cars, you’re talking. You want to see a team sports movie. So that knocks out cars and probably planes as well. Right. You want a team sport movie, which I guess now it’s getting to a point where you should be able to animate that up until 2010, I would say.

Too hard to animate. You know, like if you animate all the moving parts. This movie, they have plenty of scenes where it’s like multiple teams of people running because they’re literally playing games the whole time. Yeah. The I want to touch it scene is extremely impressive animation. I think maybe that’s what you’re talking about where you were noting the animation. This is a few cuts above because with that lighting thing, they’re able to focus more on the movement of the characters. Right. So they can have this dark space and they don’t have to think about the lighting at all.

And they can put in all these characters. So this might be them. Like, this is them figuring out how. How to do that. I guess no one just had the idea of let’s specifically do a team sport movie. But before this, I would say it’s probably not because Nemo has all the things moving, but they’re generally moving together. Right. So you just take one fish where if you have a football game, everything does have to be animated differently. Yeah. They each have to have their own gate and movement, and each player on the team has to serve a different role.

So you can’t just kind of reuse the exact same animations between them all. So, I mean, they’re capable. We know that Disney is capable. They’d be willing to underpay as many people as it takes to get it done. And they’d be able to print money if they did it correctly. I mean, if they could just undo Snow White and undo the Pinocchio with Tom Hanks and undo a few of these others, you’ve got a solid football movie right there in the marketing budget behind it. So I don’t know, just free advice for all the Disney execs listening.

Let’s look ahead. What’s coming up in the future? Yeah, I am seeing here now that you’re saying I’m like, yeah, a team sport movie not existing is relatively bizarre. Was Cool Runnings Disney? Yeah, no, they. Another great team sport movie. I said yeah, too quickly. I should double check that. But. But I think it was, yeah, yeah, it’s part of. Yeah, Cool Runnings. So, I mean, again, they’ve got it locked down in live action. They’ve done plenty of great team sport movies. So it’s, it is incredibly odd that we haven’t seen a direct port of team sport movies make it into their animated sequence.

What are the sports in this? Well, let me. I’ll get this scared. They got Scare Games. But let me do a quick summary of the movie just so I can get myself back on track too. So it starts out with Mike in like elementary school essentially. And he’s a pick me and no one wants to basically pick him for anything. And he gets paired up with the teacher constantly. And this kind of etches into him as he goes and he decides he wants to be a Scarer as a kid. And I think a Scare. Even in the.

In Monsters Inc. Which is technically the sequel to this. But even in that one, they do portray the Scarers like they are the Olympic basketball team or something. Like they’re these MVP sports stars slash celebrities. They all have like crazy nicknames and stuff. So he wants to be this like sports star celebrity growing up. And in order to do that, you have to go to Monsters you. So he goes to Monsters you and he meets up Sully there. And that basically turns into a Revenge of the Nerds sequence where none of them are getting picked for any of the cool fraternities.

They all have to join this kind of like weak fraternity and then they’re gonna get kicked out of school unless they can win these Scare Games. So the Scare Games are just these merit based tests on how well do you know the curriculum and can you actually scare or follow these specific rules. So they go through these different Scare Games. They win. But then at the end, Sully cheats. He gets himself expelled. Mike gets kicked out because Mike’s not actually scary at all. Although they. They break into the door room. They sneak into this Friday the 13th style cabin.

Mike tries to scare this cabin full of girls, and they all just, like, think he’s cute and, like, adorable and they, like, mock him and make fun of him. So then Sully has to come in. Mike then changes the ambiance. He turns into, like, a haunted mansion. And then he gets Sully to scare them, and he scares them so much, he. In fact, he scares adults and he scares police, and it fills up every single screen tank that they’ve got in the room and they all, like, explode. So it’s like this huge deal that the two of them working together were able to generate so much fear and so much adrenochrome from these children that it kind of changed the way that I think Monsters, Inc.

Would operate going forward. Although we don’t really see that. So there’s an inconsistency. I’ll get into in a second. So the. The most important part, and I guess at the end, since they get expelled, it’s like, well, how the hell do they get into Monsters, Inc? They kind of fix that within the last five minutes of the movie where they get hired as mail room and then they get promoted to, like, janitors and then like, to the cafeteria ladies. And then eventually they get promoted to be Scarers. So there’s your full, like, continuity. So you didn’t need the university in the end.

Although you. Well, I guess they did better. They didn’t have to hud Tucker proxy it. So that’s nice. What’s the Tim Robbins going straight from the mail room to CEO in that movie and then straight out the window? Yeah. Oh, that’s. That’s the previous guy. Straight out the window. Oh, he’s out the window later. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, everyone does. That’s. That’s kind of how the next CEO gets that job. That’s how that works here. Games. There was, like, very specific ones, so I wanted. You wanted to go through them all? Yeah. Before that. I wanted to ask, though, something I don’t know if we completely figured out.

They’re actually kicked out of class very earlier on, so they joined the fraternity, but they’re already kind of out of the university. But they have. They can do the steer game, so. Yeah. Well, okay, so they get kicked out, but then publicly they get into a spat with the D. Mike gets into a spat with the dean in front of all the other students and. And basically makes a bet with her. And the bet is that if they can win these Scare Games, then they have to be allowed back into school. And she’s. And she basically agrees to it at that moment.

When Mike makes that he’s not even really part of a team or fraternity yet. They haven’t all come together to be like an official team until Sully at the last second speaks up and he says that he’ll be like their fifth man. So up until he decides to join, Mike isn’t actually part of a fraternity. So he’s kind of using the premise of joining a fraternity as a vehicle to him staying in Monsters. You. No, I’m just starting at the. From the point where. Where he gets. He argues with the dean. I feel like they actually are not taking classes because near the end after the Scare Games, the one professor is like, I’m looking forward to seeing you back in.

So it seems they’ve just been screwing around the whole time. Well, no, it’s because there’s the one place where you learn how to be a Scarer on campus, but there’s a bunch of other places too, because as soon as they start taking about the doors. Okay. They can’t take the good classes. They are Green Tank engineering class. Yeah. Which. Which Mike proved. I guess you can just teach yourself that stuff. I mean, he’s never going to have the Scare factor, but he knows everything without having attended the. The class. I don’t. Honestly, I didn’t even remember that part of Monsters Inc.

Did they. Did they play that up that Mike is not scary? In Monsters Inc. They don’t play it up. But he’s not trying to be. It’s like he’s kind of accepted that he’s not scary. And he doesn’t care at that point because he’s. Because him and Solly are the, you know, the star team. And so he’s the, you know, like people still remember Michael Collins name. Even if he may or may not have been orbiting in the command module around Scotty Pippin. Right. People still know Scotty Pippen’s name. Yeah. So I mean, you could be number two and still, you know, Trotsky.

People remember Trotsky, right? And he got murdered. Okay, Leon. Leon and Trotsky. Yeah. Yeah. He got a name. Yeah. So working on it. So they have to go through these Scare Games and every single time one of these games ends, one of the teams gets eliminated. So the, the first game is a race, but it’s really a pain tolerance game. It’s the one where they have to run through these dark caverns filled with These sea urchins that are covered in poison, and if you touch one, even a little bit, you feel incredible amounts of pain and you immediately swell up.

So, again, it’s. It’s less of a race and more of a. How much pain can you tolerate and can you push through that pain and still make it to the finish line? And they. I guess they prove that they’re good enough, but they come in last. And then at the last second, one of the other teams gets disqualified because they use some sort of, like a. Like a numbing agent. I messed up my brain. It’s Mike Wachowski. So he’s not Wazowski. He’s not named after Vanishing Point. That’s too bad. Yeah. Okay. Just. Just. They were coming.

If they were coming in on Ellis island, the. The guy making the notes wouldn’t have made the distinction between those two last names. Check out my last name. It’s on the screen. But, yeah, just. Just calling out my mistakes in the same episode. Because it’s cheesier if it’s like, next episode. Things I said in the last episode, by the way. Yeah. So I can do it in episode. It feels better. You know what? It’s so liberated. Just don’t correct yourself. Yeah. Now, we do have. We have art, right? Art loves the pain. The. The Bizarro Beatnik monster.

Yeah. Yeah. I guess he doesn’t. Well, does. I don’t know. But he’s kind of fun. I especially liked him watching this the first time 12 years ago, whatever it was. I loved our. I think art is. So here’s another interesting thing about the monsters universe, and this movie in particular, I think, is a good example of it. When you see these huge establishing shots with the. Have, like, hundreds of monsters all over the place at a certain point, it’s like, okay, yeah, they’ve all got hair and teeth and horns, and they’re colorful, and they sort of all blend together.

Like, none of them really stand out as kind of unique, especially in the very beginning where they’re showing all the different classes. There’s kind of this generic look monster that they’ll use for all the background characters. And then you’ll have very specific characters that don’t look anything like any of the other ones. And I think that, like, once we actually see the. The teams come together, we see some of those, like, different unique kind of characteristics, but it’s also. It’s hard to, like, make them all distinct from each other. You know what I mean? Like, it’s.

It’s kind of weird because there’s so many of them. Because it has to be this college environment. Well, yeah, because we get the, the, the cliques. What are the. The Medusa girls or whatever they’re called. So, you know, here we’ll just use a similar design for five people. That makes sense. The team finished and they make a few good jokes. So. And they were like a sorority. So I think it was this inside joke of like how all the sorority girls end up looking exactly the same and wearing all the same clothes. Yeah, it could be a bit of that.

But yeah, I do. Like what are, what are our other monsters on the team? Of course. What’s the name? Squishy sticks out pretty well, I think because my wife can sometimes does that where she’s just kind of standing there and where’d she come from? So she, she kind of, she can manage that scare sometimes. Yeah. There’s Squishy. I didn’t remember their name. There’s Squishy, there’s the twins. There’s the, the salesman guy. I want to just say his name’s like Randy or something like Don Carlton. Don Carlton, Yeah. He’s got like a regular old name. Yeah, just regular Dave.

So that, that is weird how the. I mean even Mike Wakowski is like technically a regular name. Right. So what is, what is Solly’s, James P. Sally. The monsters do all have pretty normal names. Doug Carlton being like even more boring because Squishy is Scott Squibbles, which, you know, Terry and Terry Perry. Those are. That’s the two headed guy. So Art gets no last name or that could be his last name. We don’t know because he’s a one name person. I think Art’s my favorite secondary character in this movie by far. And he doesn’t really have any kind of awesome role.

It’s just like his introduction I think sets him up to just be really cool. Well, I think they just hired Charlie Day to show up and do his Charlie Day thing. So. Okay. Yeah, that’s basically why he’s there. So what are some other voice actors of those people? I, I didn’t really recognize the person who did Squishy’s voice. And he’s known for doing Pixar voices. Okay. So that’s what he does. We, we talked about the big stars already. Dave Foley is one of the, the two headed guy. Kids in the hall feller. So that’s kind of funny.

Then Will and Grace is the other head. Is it? I never saw that. Helen Mirren is the Dean. So that, that’s I guess that’s Disney having a lot of money to. To hire Alfred Molina’s professor, Derek Knight. I guess that’s trying to be like Dark Knight. Is it Nathan Falonza, the rival guy? And then a few other people I could. I mean, there’s Bill Hader, who says, like, one line. John Ratzberger, of course, gets to be the yeti for one line. You know? Yeah. Firefly for Nathan Flan. Of course they got a lot of people in this movie.

Again, 200 million budget. I guess it’s like, hey, two lines. I’ll give you a million bucks. Whatever. I mean, I assume people are getting their quotes for a movie like this. Okay, so the. The Scare Games. I think the Scare Game, even though you get initiated into one of these Greek teams to begin with, the Scare Games themselves are another initiation amongst the college itself. Like, this is like the bigger initiation, because first it starts out with pain tolerance. Can you feel your way through this dark cave and make it out the other end, even if you get disfigured and harmed along the way? So it’s.

It truly is like this, this game of pain tolerance. The second one is can you keep quiet? It’s about sneaking through a library, and if you make any single noise, then you get kicked out of the library. Although they kind of turn this one on its head and they make a whole bunch of noise and a whole bunch of commotion. And I feel like. I feel like they broke the rules of this game. I don’t think that the real rules in the college university of sneak through the library means that you can just run away from the library and, like, your problem child or something.

But that’s kind of what ends up happening in this one. And they pass. Yeah, they didn’t get thrown out. Tentacle thrown out of the library. I guess that that is the rule. So, you know, maybe next year they’ll be a little more specific with the rule so that doesn’. Happen again. Like the Homer Simpson thing. Like, they put that rule there because of me. Yeah. Okay. But I believe that the game was called Sneak through the Library. It wasn’t don’t get caught by the librarian. Maybe I’m wrong about that, but I think it was. And they didn’t really sneak at a certain point.

The. The. After the sneak one, they kind of prove themselves. So they get invited to this frat party by Roar Omega Roar, which is kind of like 5 beta kappa or like Skull and Bones, essentially. So they get invited to this party and they get carried. Right. They get invited up onto the main stage and everyone’s praising them. And then someone dumps buckets of blood. Yeah, well, like, it would have been buckets of blood if it were carried. But in this one, it’s like buckets of colorful pain. And this one was interesting, though, because now it’s like all these colorful.

And they throw stuffed animals at them to kind of add a little bit of humiliation ritual on top of it. But it was like, if you just remind. Rewind the movie about 10 minutes. One of those establishing shots of the college. They’re all bright and colorful and are, like pink and purple and, like yellow. Right. So it was weird that that was going to be this thing that embarrassed them. But all the freaking monsters are already colorful. It was just the lighting that made it look dark. Then it goes straight to the front page in the newspaper.

It seems vindictive. I guess that’s the press. Well, the school newspaper. So they were in on it. The. The. The third game is basically like a. Like a police firing practice range where you have to, like, shoot the bad guy and don’t shoot the good guy. It’s kind of like an FBI hostage crisis simulator and scare teenagers. That did have me thinking, like, with the. That’s one of the few times here I was thinking a little Disney proxy. Are they being like, oh, we have to scare the little ones. Teenagers are beyond our reach or something? 100%.

Yeah. I think we’ve deduced that the sweet age to harvest fear from children is like 8 to 9 or 10. It’s basically Ava age. But then when they get the. The at the end, when they do get the fear response from the adults too, when they get a real fear response from the police, that cranks up to. That blows up all the canisters in the room, you know? Well, that. That. Okay, so let’s get into that because that’s an anomaly that opens up two lines of dialogue or, like, logic that I haven’t really seen explored in the monsters universe yet.

One, it’s that you can harvest fear from adults. So they’re leaving a lot on the table by not harvesting fear from adults. And it also makes me think, could they just break into, like, a schizophrenic ward of a mental hospital and just scare the schizophrenics constantly and just get free screen. Black ops division of Monsters, Inc. Okay, so the black ops kind of. Yeah, they do like, some guan. Like couldn’t. Couldn’t you say aren’t that good? They’re the poster boys by the Time of the original movie. Yeah, I want to know which monsters are sending to Guantanamo Bay because those guys are probably cleaning up.

Yeah. If you think Bog seems like a scumbag, you should see the black ops monsters. That’s where they keep the old ones. They send them into schizophrenic wars to get the real fear from grown ass schizophrenics. So and then the other part portion of this is that we find out in Monsters Inc. That they get more scream energy from laughter. Right. And then eventually it’s like, hey, we can just make kids laugh and harvest that. But man, I didn’t see a single instinct in that entire movie, Monsters Inc. That a room full of laughter would have equaled a room full of people screaming, especially like girls and police officers.

That if you can make a group of police officers scared, then that’s worth more than an entire auditorium of children laughing. Right. So why would you ever transition to the less efficient method of gathering scream? I think adults would be a little more likely to respond. Like at this point they’re still even up to the Monsters Inc. Movie. They’re terrified of being touched by a human. Right. So they may deem that it’s a whole much more likely you will end up making contact with this longer armed adult who’s more likely to actually take action against you as well and not freeze up.

I mean, plenty of adults will freeze up too, but the risk factor may seem higher from their current perspective. I think you’re totally onto something that this is just the non black ops division of whatever they’re doing to harvest Scream and that the real black ops division is out there scaring adults. Yeah, yeah. You know, we’re really getting our power from the, the dumb, the underground bases with, you know, power sources we don’t understand. There’s coal plants, there’s nuclear plants. They’re doing nothing for us. They’re just occasionally polluting and blowing up. That’s just for fun. That’s actually to add to the, the ongoing terror.

It just raises the baseline a little bit. The fourth game is hide and seek, I think. And this is like what they’re, they’re basically training for. And then the final event is the one that takes place on the football field again. And this one is basically just them going into the simulated scare room. So there’s not really a sort of like aspect to it where you’re competing against another person. It’s just that they each go at the same time. And then what you do in your Scare Simulator can affect what’s happening in the other Scare Simulator, for example, I think Sully makes the, the room shake a little bit when he’s scaring his kid.

And, and Randall Boggs is competing at the same time, and he gets, like, off balance from Sully shaking from across the room, and then it screws him up and then he kind of becomes like, you know, this is where he becomes an enemy to Sully. And Mike, to his credit, that seems like a technical foul to me. If I am the referee, I don’t feel like the room should influence the other room. I don’t know if technical foul is the word, though, because this is on who built the freaking. The. The entire display. Right. Like, Sully’s not the one that cheated.

It was just a horrible design from the start. Well, he cheated by messing with the switch. But no, no, no. Him roaring and distracting Bogs is not. It’s, I mean, it’s just like when somebody, you know, stumble bombs on a football field or something. I mean, it’s like maybe you do the play again or maybe you don’t actually. I don’t know football that well, so I could be wrong about that. But no, that’s called, That’s a, That’s a fumble. And if the other team gets the ball now, they have the ball. It’s actually a pretty good deal.

Yeah. Okay. Anyway, I, I, you know, I do. Randall does have too much of a chip on his shoulder post this, but it, you know, we don’t really know what his scare is going to be, do we? He was going to turn invisible. Well, he was already invisible. And then anyway, yeah, he likes turning invisible. He doesn’t like turning the pink hearts anymore, that’s for sure. So. And then that’s basically. It’s a genius ending, I think, because we get the underdog football sports team sort of ending here where they all come together and they. It’s a blowout.

And then after that, that initial high of like, yeah, the underdogs win, then you find out that Sully had cheated all along. So you, you kind of get both, right? You get the letdown emotion of like, oh, we lost, but you also get the we won emotion. And I think it was masterful the way that they were able to pull that off and they were able to kind of like, have their cake and eat it, too, in a way. Yeah. I, I think this is one of the better conclusions of a Disney film because it is like, the last 30 minutes are probably the best part of the movie, and they do sort of tack on the whole, like, oh, by the way, we still get in by applying to be in the mail room and janitors and work their way.

Like they sort of stitch together the solution as the credits are rolling, which isn’t a horrible idea. But it, it’s the one thing in this movie that was like they could have had a Monsters Inc. Sequel to the prequel that’s still a prequel to the third. Well, they cross that line right at the end of the movie, don’t they? They do, yes. And it’s a, it’s a full circle. Like you can watch the. I don’t know. Would you ever watch Monsters University first and then watch Monsters Inc. Or does it make more sense to watch Ink first? I think we did do it Monsters Then Inc.

When, when we were playing them around the house when my daughter was young. So I think we just were like, that makes sense for this one. Me first. Right. Because it doesn’t spoil Monsters Inc. Either. That’s one of the fun things about being a prequel. Like, like it doesn’t bring in any of the laughter stuff, you know, is a nice prequel that you can definitely watch it first and not screw up. Because if you watch the Phantom Menace knowing nothing about Star wars, that’s going to be really confusing. Which one’s the Phantom Menace? The Darth Maul one, right? Yeah, it’s the Darth Maul one.

Yes. But if you have no context of Star wars, that movie is completely confusing. I mean, it’s kind of confusing as it is, but we’re just like. It’s about trade arguments which, like, that’s not exciting. But yeah, I tried to watch that movie again about nine months ago and I think I tapped out about halfway through. So. Look, man, I’m not going to be the one that convinces you to like Star Wars. I’m. I’m the opposite. Oh yeah, I know there’s plenty of Star Wars. I do like, I’ve just, I, I’ve. I keep trying to warm up to the first two and I cannot.

The first two prequels, you see, it’s hard to say it, isn’t it? Anyway, Monsters University is the first one I think works perfectly well. The only problem is you’ll notice a drop in animation quality when you watch Monsters Inc. Second. Still a good looking movie. Animated, fine. But yeah, this one has new tricks up its sleeve that really worked with the lighting system so. As well. This is 15 years. Not even, not even 15 years ago. This doesn’t have as much insane design as Monsters Inc. Because we get the Harryhausen Sushi bar in that one. Monster topless.

The. You know, the city is totally weird, and I feel like Monsters University just looks like a university where, you know, some of the archways have teeth. You know, it’s. It’s a little Harry Potter esque too. So I feel like there’s kind of like a fun. Like all of the classes that they take are sort of like fun classes compared to what we would actually have to go to. Yeah. I did get to completely skip introductory English and all math classes in university, so that was nice. I never took a math class in university, so I dodged that bullet nicely.

But I’m not very good. I had to. Yeah, I had. I had to retake a bunch of math. It wasn’t fun. I didn’t get credits, but I did well enough on the test. Like, okay, we’re not giving you credits for the class, but you don’t have to take the class. I was like, good enough. Yeah, we. There was a couple classes in college where if you. You were always allowed to take a test, like the very first week or the first day, and if you got high enough on that test, you just didn’t have to go to that class, but you didn’t get credits.

It just meant like, I guess that’s what I did. Yeah. Hours every day. Yeah. Well, then you could take something else anyway. But all the classes at Monsters University are fun. Why would we want to show anyone taking a class that’s like a slot, you know, Monster Macroeconomics. Doesn’t sound like I want to see it. No, this. This one is good. This is. I would stand by this being a top 10 at least. Disney theatrical animated movie for sure. Would you put this above Monsters Inc. I don’t know. I think. Yeah, I think I would. I’m seeing here one and not quite sure what my answer is, to be honest.

This. Yeah. This one has more fun Monsters, I think, than Monsters Inc. Monsters Inc. Has some fun monsters too, but you know what I mean? It is kind of nice. Just completely jettison the cute kid aspect because that boo’s fine and Monsters Inc. But it is just, you know, it. It’s kind of fun without that element, I think. I feel like this movie couldn’t exist and it couldn’t be as good without Monsters Inc. First, because. Because Monsters Inc. Provides all the exposition so that you don’t have to worry about, like, what, they’re monsters. What’s going on here? Like, once that’s out of the way and you can just have fun with the characters in Their world.

And this movie is, in my, in my opinion, is better than Monsters, Inc. But it’s not like you can just watch this one and never see Monsters Inc. Like, you still have to see Monsters, Inc. Yeah. Do you think this movie gives you enough context at the beginning? Because, I mean, it’s been 10 years plus, so they need, you know, they do have young kids coming in. But you don’t care about the characters as much. I don’t think, like, I wouldn’t. I wouldn’t care about Sully as much and I definitely wouldn’t care about Randall Boggs and I wouldn’t care about a lot of the other things happening.

And this. And the concept of Scream too. I think it’s pre established in Monsters Inc. How, how pivotable, how pivotal Scream is and why they’re collecting it and why they’re harvesting it and why they’re getting it this way in this movie. That’s sort of already assumed. They don’t really explain that, oh, by the way, Scream powers the city and then it’s this finite resource that’s kind of like buried because the exposition’s already been done. Okay, yeah. That is the thing I came in. Just knowing the context, I’m like, yeah, it makes perfect sense to watch him in University in quarter.

But yeah, yeah, I guess if you really are coming in cold, it wouldn’t quite work. And it justifies why they’re being mean to kids is because otherwise they die. Yeah, I mean, it’s kind of like, you know, like take the Sixth Sense, right? You watch it once, wow. You have to watch it a second time because you have to know the twist and watch it and then you never watch it again. Where? Monsters University. Hey, I’ve seen this. This price time 7 watching it mostly because I had kids. Otherwise it’d probably be time two or three.

But yeah, yeah, you know what? Movies that have like a huge, huge twist at the end and that becomes a novelty aren’t necessarily as great as, like, I could watch that 10 or 20 times. Getting back to Lost Highway, I can watch that 10 or 20 times. It has that make no sense whatsoever. That one’s such a hard watch for me. It’s. It’s. You might as well just put like a whole bunch of random music videos spliced together. And I will do that too, by the way. I don’t have a problem with that. Okay. So, yeah, I am a fan of that, but I’ve warmed up to that one so much, partially because it just never is going to quite make sense.

Mulholland Drive. I actually have read enough things about where it does make sense. We can talk about that. A different time and place, but it. I feel like that one makes more sense. Where Lost High makes no sense. Monsters University. Very easy to follow. I like. I like formulas. Movie. I don’t hate formulaic movies if they’re done well. No, that’s. This is a formulaic movie done at, I’d say, 98 of filling up one of those tanks. You know, I mean, could it be a little better? Probably. There’s probably something you could tweak to improve, but it’s.

It’s pretty. Pretty airtight as far as a formula goes. You know, it’s. It’s firing on all cylinders. Maybe one cylinder is 2%. Not all. I don’t know. They needed another. Another mic, or at least another Polo. Yeah, I will look through. I think I’ve said everything I wanted to say in my notes. Oh, yeah. I do feel like light conversation is accepted in a library. Just to throw that out. Oh, here at work conferences, because there’s a slime. One monster looks like a snail, right? And this came up in a work conversation where one of our co workers was like, I don’t like snails.

Someone’s like, why? Because they’re slow and they leave a trail of slime. And we’re like, well, what if it went faster? Then it would leave a fast trail of slime. Wouldn’t that be worse? So a fast snail. That’s kind of disturbing, isn’t it? Who cares how fast the snail is? Why would. Leaving a trail of slime. Yeah. No, but the slime part’s the only part that matters. The speed has no bearing on the slime. Right. Okay. Fast slime, though. It’s like, you know, moving across the floor. And now the slime’s all over the floor. Otherwise, I don’t know.

It would be more spread out. Then it would be a much thinner layer that you probably wouldn’t notice. Not in my world. I’m suggesting where the fast slug puts out the same amount of slime. This almost sounds like you could harvest these snails for cold fusion. Then this is my world of fast snails. I can decide what the parameters are. This is where the S car go is really in a fast little S car. Oh. So again, I was coming in more from the college movie aspect than the sports movie aspect. Although what I’m about to say is also both.

My favorite college movie is very old school. Not old school. Horse Feathers. Ever watch Horse Feathers? Marx Brothers. I Don’t think I’ve ever heard that. No. Great movie. What are you, like my great great grandpa? Yes, I am. For the Marx Brothers, I’ll be your great great grandpa. I haven’t seen Horse Feathers. That’s great. Where it’s Groucho Marx is the new dean of the university and his son is Zeppo, who you barely notice in the movie because he doesn’t do anything, both in terms of the movie and in terms of being a marks brother. So it’s just, it’s funny.

I mean, it’s, it’s well written, the jokes still kind of hit and it’s got weird old timey crap. But yeah, that ends with bets and them, like, you know, gate crashing a football game. I think they end up riding a Roman chariot through the football game to make the final touchdown or something. All right. If we’re doing college movies, I do, I do think Old school’s probably my favorite. Like, that’s my Animal House. Although there’s a really close second with Back to School with Rodney Dangerfield. But that one came out a little bit early for me to like, fully appreciate it.

You’ve never seen Back to School? I. I’ve seen it like on cable. Like, I, I remember, I think when I saw it, I was probably like 12 and I. You got to be a little older. Not because Rodney Dangerfield is obscene, but because you just can’t get Rodney Dangerfield unless you’re, I don’t know, like, like 15 at least. Probably maybe a little bit older. You have to be old enough to close. You get to 60, the more you’ll get Rod Dangerfield. He hasn’t reached maximum potential yet, so I need to watch Back to School again, I guess.

Old school. By the way, I, I almost felt bad when I said, oh, my old school favorite. Oh, maybe it is Old School. I was like nine. We’re in the notes. Absolutely. One of the best college movies ever. Even if it’s like mainstream by now. I think it is. It was phenomenal when it came out. That was the one that put Luke Wilson on the maybe Luke is. Can be as cool as Owen, you know, trajectory, I guess, because I remember in the first few years he was an idiocracy first. No, didn’t. Idiocracy. They were about a year apart.

Also idiocracy was like not released, if you remember that didn’t. Yeah, it was. Came on like, it literally played in like a theater in LA and then showed. It was like thrown on the video. And fortunate enough, people grabbed It. They’re like, hey, wait, this is good. Which, yeah, great. Yes, I. I do like. Idiot. See that? And old school. That’s wrong. Wow. Luke Wilson’s good too. You know, before that I wasn’t like, convinced, so those two convinced me. You got anything else you want to throw out on Monsters University? No. We can let this one just stand by itself.

Man, I don’t think this one needs any extra help. Okay, you. You’ve got almost a virtual university over on the. On the Internet sites. I don’t know if you want to call your stuff university. I’m just trying to segue the plug. I don’t know. Actually, I. I’ve got a great segue. I’ve got a graphic novel called paranoid American History 101, and it’s essentially a textbook. Like your introduction to some of the. The more like American centric conspiracy theories. There’s an entire story there on Robert Gordon Watson, who is the reason why we have the name Magic Mushrooms.

He brought salvia divinum into the public sphere. He also might have been involved in the JFK assassination plots. Kind of crazy. He was VP of finance for JP Morgan bank and like knew the Morgans personally. And it connects to Skull and Bones and it connects to the Century Society. It’s wild story. That’s only one of many. In here I’ve got a preview clip of Never a Straight Answer, which is my full length grab anthology on Stanley Kubrick directing the moon landing. There’s a little snippet of that in this book. There’s also one called Cracking up, which is about the DARE Program, Ronald Reagan and the Iran Contra scandal of smuggling drugs in order to pay for black ops wars.

There’s one about War of the Worlds being planned by the Rockefeller foundation and getting Orson Welles to basically run a psyop on the rest of the country. There’s one we’re gonna have to. There’s also a story in there about Charles Lindbergh killing his own son because he was a eugenicist. All right, over here I do podcasting@podcastiopodcastius.org the most dry and academic we get for that. Well, it’s not dry and academic. We’re just talking about crusty old TV shows. Podcast 1999. We did space 1999 and the plan of the Apes movies and. And live action TV show.

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