Ernest Goes to Jail and Fringe Theories on Electromagnetic Disclosure

➡ The text is a conversation about the movie “Ernest Goes to Jail”. The speakers discuss various aspects of the film, including the plot, the characters, and some unique elements like the protagonist’s ability to withstand electrocution. They also talk about the actress Barbara Bush, who shares a name with a former First Lady, and the film’s setting in Tennessee. The conversation ends with a mention of an electric chair exhibit at the National Museum of Crime.
➡ John Morgan, a prominent personal injury lawyer in the U.S., once ran a unique, for-profit museum in Washington D.C. that showcased an electric chair. The museum was unusual because most are publicly funded. The electric chair exhibit was particularly interesting because it included a leather veil, added after initial executions revealed that victims’ eyeballs would explode, a sight that disturbed many viewers. The text also discusses a movie plot involving a character named Ernest who gains the ability to shoot electricity after being electrocuted, and his relationship with a woman named Barbara Bush.
➡ The text discusses a movie featuring a character named Lyle, a former boxer turned actor. The movie also includes a memorable scene involving a pen, and the text mentions a connection between the movie and Splash Mountain. The text also discusses the comedic style of the movie, comparing it to the humor in Peewee’s movies. The text ends with a wish to see the main actor, Jim Varney, work with other great actors to showcase his acting skills.
➡ The text discusses the original Mad Max movie, comparing it to other films and discussing its impact. It also talks about the concept of doppelgangers in movies, referencing the Ernest Goes to Jail movie and the ATU and Thompson Motif Indexes that catalog different plot lines. The text also mentions the seven people theory, which suggests that everyone has seven lookalikes in the world. Lastly, it discusses the production design of the Ernest Goes to Jail movie, comparing it to Bill and Ted’s Bogus Journey.
➡ The text discusses a movie with a 90s aesthetic, comparing it to Bill and Ted’s Bogus Journey and Ernest Goes to Jail. It also talks about the unusual choice of having prison guards dressed in pink, which is seen as subversive. The conversation then shifts to school uniforms in Japan and the pros and cons of having them. Lastly, it delves into real-life cases of mistaken identity leading to wrongful imprisonment, including two recent cases from 2022 and a tragic case related to the Oklahoma City bombing.
➡ The text discusses a movie where a character named Ernest goes to jail and gains the ability to control electricity. It also mentions real-life claims of people who say they can control electricity or have become electromagnets after being electrocuted. However, these claims have not been proven under scientific testing. The text also mentions other movies and characters with similar themes of gaining superpowers after an accident.
➡ The text discusses the unique acting styles of certain actors like Jim Carrey and Jim Varney, and how difficult it is to replicate their performances. It also mentions the challenges of method acting and the impact of certain movies like Tootsie. The text ends with a discussion about conspiracy theories and a plug for various podcasts and merchandise.

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Prison. Did I just say it wrong? After he gets sentenced to prison, he himself says, I’m going to jail. So I feel like you’re allowed to say he’s going to jail. I’m just thinking, you know, there’s that distinction. Like jail is like a holding cell basically. Right. And then prisons like after you’ve been sentenced. So it technically is prison in this movie. But yeah, Ernest Goes to prison. Or is it Ernest Goes to Jail? It’s jail. I just had to double check to see if I screwed up. I. I shouldn’t have. I shouldn’t have second guessed myself.

That was the mistake. All right. I’m going to prison for making a mistake. Top 10 intros of all time. I’m gonna do this for the next hour. Keep changing the term. So I just. As a, as a nice little preview. I’m not gonna spoil anything right now, but I think I’ve got a deeper insight. Like we act. There’s a reason why you’re listening to us talk about Ernest Goes to Jail on a cult Disney, because we’re gonna break down some stuff that you haven’t heard before. So I, I’m just gonna tease that. We’ll get into it later though.

And why are we doing Earnest? To remind people this is our very drug out year long sporadic series. An Earnest for all seasons. You may be asking, why is Ernest Goes to Jail? The spring one? Because it’s that odd duck out. You know, Ernest Goes to camp. Clearly summer, Ernest scared stupid. Clearly Halloween, Fall, Ernest Saves Christmas. I mean, you know, jail just ends up. You could be in jail. You’re in jail year round. So I guess it doesn’t matter. He’s springing out of jail. Springing out. There we go. Okay. Save. Good save. I should. Yeah, I’m second guessing myself again.

How could I do that? I will come straight out and say I just. I enjoyed watching this one a lot more than say It’s Christmas. I don’t know, man. I’m on the. I’m on the fence. I re this one. I remembered way more gags from as a kid watching it. But overall, the end, I mean, weird criticism, like the ending just doesn’t make sense. How he turns into this weird anti gravity bouncing ball and that somehow becomes the McGuffin that saves everything. And then the movie instantly ends after that. I was like, whoa, the credits. And then the.

Oh, I. I made a note. The first credit is film editor. Oh, wait, who. Who was it? When it. At the end of the movie, when it cuts to black, the first credit is film editor. I’m like, I’ve never seen a movie do that before. Usually it’s directed by or something. Right now, I guess I didn’t do enough research. But when it opens up, one of the very first credits goes to Barbara Bush. I made a note about that too, and I did have to go looking. Who is this Barbara Bush? And was that a joke or was that an actual actress? That’s an actual actress.

She just happens to share a name. She started working in 82, so I guess she wouldn’t worry about having the same name as the CIA director’s wife at that time. But by 1990 it might be an issue. Canadian actress known for appearing in hit TV shows. Neon Rider. I don’t. Neon Rider, huh? She’s in one of the 80s twilight zones. Er. She’s on er. Okay, so, yeah, yeah. Do you think this is the Barbara Bush that’s the actual granddaughter of Aleister Crowley? Well, she has since changed her name to Barbara Tyson. That is what she goes by now.

So at some point, I guess she decided maybe. Maybe being Barbara Bush isn’t the best thing if you want to go down that rabbit hole. By the way, the full claim was that Aleister Crowley had a Paris fling with Pauline Pierce, and Pauline Pierce was the mother of Barbara Bush, which was an article that released on April 1st at some point as an April Fool’s joke. However, the dates and the people in the intention line up, so I’ll let you figure it out. I. I like to just assume that’s correct. She’s got that gleam in her eye, right? I like to operate more on is it possible and do I think the people involved would have the incentive to do it? And in that case, it doesn’t really matter if it happened or not.

Like everything was. My best analogy I got is if you get pulled over by the cops and you haven’t broken into a house, but they find, like, a cat burglar outfit, and they find, like, a crowbar and, you know, like the. The instruments required to commit the crime. In a lot of cases, they’ll just assume that you’re guilty anyways. So I feel like that’s the standard that’s easy enough to set. They did not nominate her for a. Well, it’s a Gemini Award, not an Emmy. But, you know, she got her nominations after changing her name, so it probably was.

I think it was very confusing if you saw this opening night in the theater. Right. Because it’s already, like 1990s. So you’re like, not really. Yeah, I don’t remember. I don’t know if I’ve seen this before, to be honest. This might be the first time that you’ve ever seen Ernest Goes to Jail. Yeah, I know. I’ve seen all the other ones, but I think. No, no, no. We did see Ernest Goes to Jail opening night, and I didn’t like it because I. I told you I had a thing like in Earth Saves Christmas where I felt like it didn’t have enough earnest, especially when I was a kid, because he’s playing all the other roles.

And here I think I was like, I don’t want to see him be a bad guy now. It’s funnier in hell, and I love it. But when I was, you know, a kid, maybe I didn’t like that. I think I liked it more as a kid than I liked it this time around. Okay. Maybe I just want some Looney Tunes. So I had that going. All the weird electromagnetic crap. I was just like, yeah, sure, whatever. I don’t need this explained to me. So one of the recurring themes that’s. I don’t think they. This ever comes up in any other earnest properties.

So I guess the rules that apply in this movie are isolated to this movie, but that you cannot kill Ernest by electrocution. That somehow he’s got a weird superhuman ability to absorb electricity and convert it into electromagnetic ability. Kind of like Magneto, but a little bit less control over it. And then he can also shoot lightning out of his hands like he’s Raiden from Mortal Kombat. But this like that doesn’t come up in earnest. Scared Straight, right, Because he could just grow and grab any wire pole, electrocute himself, and then start shooting people, you know, to death with electricity.

Well, so in earnest Christmas, he was a taxi driver in Orlando, right? And now he is a bank security. No, bank janitor. Excuse me. In Tennessee. This was all filmed in Tennessee. That’s Basically all the trivia I have. There’s not that much trivia you can find on Earnest Goes to Jail. You know, he could have moved through. He could have moved and he’s. Yeah, he could have moved and changed his job to be a janitor at a bank. That’s believable. But the fact that now he. As long as far as invincibility goes, he cannot be electrocuted because he gets electrocuted no less than three times in this movie.

One of them in a literal electric chair designed to kill him. And even that doesn’t kill him. It’s like how you have, you know, like accustomed yourself to poison so it no longer hits. So once he gains this weird electricity thing, I guess he gains more powers each time he doesn’t start shooting lightning until they put him in the giant electric chair. I loved how absurdly large that chair was. And this is not medical advice to slowly electrocute yourself over time to build up a resistance. Just because Ernest P. Whirl was able to do that. And the.

Okay, so without going on too much of a tangent, but I feel like I’m more of an expert than the normal person in electric chairs. And that’s because I worked on. When I was at Disney, I worked on a exhibit, a whole entire floor. Yeah, actually an execution chair that for electric chair. It was at the Museum of National. The National Museum of Crime and Punishment, which is now defunct. And I believe it was run by John Morgan of Morgan and Morgan, which. Oh, you live in Japan, so you probably don’t understand the cultural reference, but he’s like the biggest personal injury lawyer in the entire United States now.

But he had. Okay, he had a museum in downtown Washington D.C. a for profit museum, which made it stand out because almost every other museum is essentially publicly funded and like super cheap. But they had an entire demo on the electric chair. They didn’t electrocute someone in front of you, but you could actually go up close and see and look at the dimensions and exactly how it was made. And one of the things that they introduced way early on, like very early on was at like the most rudimentary one was a leather like veil because after the first few executions, your eyeballs explode.

And apparently people didn’t like seeing that kind of thing. So they started putting a veil over face so that the eyeballs wouldn’t boil and explode out of the face. So let’s just say this one’s not very realistic because you don’t see Ernest’s eyeballs explode, Right? Well, he’s Charged with. He should have shot lightning out of his eyeballs. Did he? I mean, it was his hands, I guess there was lots of lightning static all around him. So. Yeah. And by the way, in. In case it matters to you, which it shouldn’t. But it’s never explained how he allow like how he’s able to shoot electricity and how he’s able to convert being electrocuted into electromagnetic powers like Magneto.

Okay. My, my biggest difficulty with a willing suspension of disbelief is that Barbara Bush, a, a woman in her 20s would have any interest in Earnest whatsoever. She makes it clear it’s just friends. Right. But still, she’s. Why. I mean, come on. She’s. I’m just like. She would not. She would be avoiding this guy as hard as possible, I think, you know, just friends. But she kisses him just innocently all the time and invites him out to dinner. But also, I feel like she’s the archetype of trying to fix something that’s unfixable in a way. Is Ernest unfixable? Is he broken? I mean, yeah, of course, but.

But also the only reason she exists story wise is because Ernest isn’t afraid to die. It’s like shout out to Ernest for kind of being a badass. Even if he’s, even if he’s somewhat dumb. He’s legitimately got like some balls to him. But he says like, you can kill me, I don’t care. You can. Like, I don’t. I don’t care. Real men aren’t afraid of pain. And I rock. Right. But kill me now. There’ll be another Earnest movie. But. But then he, but then they have to threaten someone that he cares about and, and honestly, there’s no one else in his life that he would really care about getting hurt.

So they have to introduce this girl that’s kind of his girlfriend a little bit. And that’s the only reason that he’s playing along and pretending to be a criminal inside the prison. Right. I. I do love. There’s a bit of a Finding Dory vibe at first when he doesn’t realize he’s in prison or whatever and is just having a grand old time for a while. Yeah, he. He thinks that this is his chance to sort of role play. Thinks that the, the jury is actually going inside the prison and he’s just kind of playing along to get the.

He wants to be the best juror possible. I, I was almost thinking of like the Pauly Shore movie. I can’t remember. It was the play on 12 Angry Men. But it was a little bit better than that movie because that movie is super old in black and white. I’ve avoided jury duty for my entire life. It’s great. I’ve had to go to jury duty one time and I was dead set on nullifying the hell out of that jury. And it turns out at the very end, I was the alternate juror. But they don’t tell you that until the whole case is pretty much over.

And they were like, so do you want to like knowing that you’re all the alternate journer and we’re not going to use you? Do you want to hang out and see how this pans out? And I was already out the door by the time they finished that sentence. No, I, I was always conveniently far away, like, oh, he can’t come. He’s in Maine. Oh, he’s in Japan. And, and I, I’m currently not registered because. So they don’t ask anymore. I would have loved to have used that, but the studio that I worked at was literally walking distance across the street from the courthouse, so.

Oh, yeah, that, that doesn’t, that doesn’t hold water very well. So. But I’m, I’m in Japan. Tends to, you know, ward them off. For anyone listening. I just, I’m a strong advocate. Unless we’re talking about a egregious crime where there’s an actual criminal. But if it’s like a non violent crime of, of any kind, just nullify it. Just play along, pretend like you’re gonna, you know, do the whole dance and that you’re gonna vote along with the rest of the jury. But then at the very end, don’t disagree and just nullify the hell out of it.

It’s the best, the best way to kind of fight against the American judicial system. And it’s illegal to advocate for this, apparently on grounds like you’re not allowed to talk about jury nullification if you’re on a jury or if you’re outside of a courthouse on their property. So here’s my, here’s my chance to deliver that message to you since it’s on the mind now, of course, in this movie, she was the judge is like, huh, it’s very strange for us to go to the prison, but okay. Which I’m like, yeah, that. I’m pretty sure that’s not happening.

I don’t know. Do juries take field trips? Well, so I guess the premise of this. Let me do a quick recap so we can explain why they’re going through an actual prison from Jury duty. So it’s that Ernest gets called the jury duty, and the guy that’s. That’s on trial, he has killed somebody in jail. And they’re basically trying to, you know, it’s. It’s an easy open and shut case. But then you find out that the leader of a gang in prison looks exactly like Ernest. And this guy, this black guy that had. Is on trial for killing somebody, he’s telling his boss, hey, there’s this guy on the jury that looks just like you.

So they formulate a plan for the defense journey to tell the jury, like, hey, you need to come to the prison and see the actual scene of this crime. So that’s the reason why there would be there. And the prosecutor is like, all right. Because the prosecutor is like, this is already a slam dunk. I guess. So at least in the logic of a movie where a person can absorb electricity and then bounce around anti gravity style at the end of the. I feel like there’s. You don’t really have to pick this one apart. I did not remembering the plier, I think it was.

It was like Hot Tub Time machine, where you keep waiting for Crispin Glover’s character to lose his arm. Right? I’m like, ah. Because it starts. I’m like, oh, he’s gonna get. You know, he’s going to screw up so much in the bank with his electromagnetic stuff, they’re going to think he’s robbing it anyway and arrest him. Oh, nope, he’s fine in the jury. I’m like, with all the ink on his face, he’s going to get a contempt of court and go to prison that way. It’s like, no, no, no. He’s gonna get. He’s gonna get doppelgangered.

Doppelgangered in which I guess is why they’re hiding Nash’s face through the first 10 scenes he’s in where you’re like, come on, you. Even from the silhouette alone, you know that what the plot’s gonna be. I guess. I guess that’s just, you know, mystery for the five and undercrowd. I don’t know. For the rugrats on your. On your cup, it’s mystery for them. I feel like Tommy Pickles would have figured that out pretty quick. Okay, so that was too dumb for everybody. So Phil and Lil, maybe not. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Our fake Gabbita and Costello, do they.

What were they doing in Saves Christmas? I don’t remember them being in there much. They had to be there. They were working in the warehouse or like, the postal area or whatever, where all the boxes were being stored. And I think they’re the ones that discover the reindeer that are upside down inside of whatever that storage area was at. So. But in this one, now they are. And I kind of like it. There’s. There’s this ensemble aspect. It’s almost like an Adam Sandler movie where all his friends are constantly in all the same movies, but just different roles.

And I think I liked, I mean, that’s one of the reasons maybe I like this movie better. Saves Christmas had that weird, what was it? Hungarian Santa or whatever. And then the new Santa was. That was that large man with no charisma. Whereas all the supporting roles in here I, you know, I thought were pretty good. The, the thug is, you know, the big thug, who was a boxer, by the way. I, I, the little research I did on this was Lyle, the, the big guy with the beard, right? Yeah. We’re going to talk about him more.

Okay. About the actor, about Lyle, the character. And I guess the actor by proxy. The actor is Randall Tex Cobb, who apparently was a major heavyweight boxer and martial artist in the. That’s sort of fascinating. And he’s. He’s kind of like the bad guy that, that gets the real redemption arc in this entire movie. Maybe because he’s the past sports guy. Was a professional record, 51 bouts, 42 wins. That’s not too bad, right? Well, he, he opened up a rabbit hole. But I’m gonna, I’m gonna save that. Okay. For another, I don’t know, 10 minutes or so.

Yeah, where was I going with that? I don’t know. You mentioned the pen scene. And I just have to mention before I get into all the other, like, decode stuff and we get into, like, the mythology aspects of this, that pen scene might be my favorite earnest scene of any of his movies of all time. And I, I can’t separate it from the nostalgia that I probably laughed my ass off as I saw that as a kid. Like now when I watch it, I didn’t necessarily, like, laugh or think it was funny the same way, but it just hit me as, like, the most memorable, earnest moment that I can remember.

I’m a pen snob. Not in that I buy expensive pins, but if the pin doesn’t feel right, I’m gonna grab another pin and try that one. And the one he breaks is. I remember those from the early 90s. Those are his real cheap Bic ones that don’t write well and they will spill like that if you chew on them a little. Bit. They will do that. I remember those and hate those. He might. Yeah. It might have been from experience. I feel like someone in the writer room might have actually gone through that. Because I. I want to say that there was at least one time in my life that I think I chewed on a pen and then I got ink all over my mouth.

Yeah. Yeah. I don’t. I didn’t have it all over my face like Ernest, because, you know, he’s a Right. But I definitely had the ink spill from that cheap pen before. I should mention, by the way, the. The alarm. When the alarm went off for this. To do this episode, because we’re doing them for each season. And that. That was last week on Splash Mountain. Last week on Splash Mountain. I always have to brag about that. And it stopped on the uphill climb with the dramat. And then I thought about Ernest’s Slash Mountain special against like, oh, crap, we need to do Ernest Goes to Jail.

What. What’s the connection between Ernest and Splash Mountain? There is. We’ll do this at some point too. There’s a 30 minute special in Splash Mountain opened where Ernest is training to go on Splash Mountain. It’s like he’s gonna, you know, fly to the moon or something. So most of the shots are him, like, at home. It’s shot like his commercial stuff with him training. And the sequence where he goes down Splash Mountain, you know, makes it. It’s. It’s good. It’s. It’s on YouTube. It’s worth watching. Well, okay, maybe. Maybe that would be the, the cap off when we.

Because we already did the Christmas one, so maybe we just. For this, the upcoming Christmas one. Yeah. Because they make it seem like the drop in Smash Mountain is this, you know, terrifying two minute ordeal. So as I’m stuck on the lift, I’m like, oh, yeah, terrifying ordeal. You know, so honestly, out of all of the Disney rides, I really do think it probably goes Tower of Terror and then Splash Mountain. Like, those are like the two big ones for me, where your heart and your stomach and everything, like actually jumps a little bit. Well, I got an extra minute of that then, so.

Because we had to stop. I never noticed how dramatic the music is as you’re going up and no one’s. Unless you live in Japan. Well, I guess a lot of people visit Tokyo, Japan now, but Disneyland, Japan. But yeah, yeah. Now you just got to deal with let’s go the party. And then you fall, which doesn’t sound as fun. I still miss the OG version of it, but okay, plenty of Earnest coming, Right? We’ve got two more earnest movies and then an earnest Disney Splash Mountain special. Yes. Let’s see. On this one, I just had to throw in that because that’s one of those fun little serendipity bits.

Balls on balls in prison. I’m just looking through weird notes I wrote or lobsters magnetic. Oh, yeah, Shelly. Also, it’s not just like, hey, let’s have a friend dinner. It’s like, let’s go, like, the nicest restaurant in town where you shouldn’t be able to wear your earnest clothes. You know, I think that she’s probably, like, showing him off a little bit. The way that she brings him here. It’s like she’s either almost like a sadist or he doesn’t understand that he’s going through this. But there’s clearly something that she’s getting out of this and, like, a public humiliation kind of way.

And he gets a lobster, right? Because I had to think about if lobsters are magnetic. I think that maybe her dad owns the restaurant. And she’s like, instead of bringing home, like, a bad boy, she’s like, here’s who your grandkids gonna come from. She’s. Yeah, she’s brought a whole parade of morons into that restaurant. It is kind of remarkable because no one really reacts to any of the stuff that he’s doing. And I don’t. I don’t know how much of that is supposed to be feeding into the plot or if it was just this is a simple movie and we’re just trying to focus on the comedian doing the comedian stuff.

And don’t worry about the background actors. I mean, I think that’s just part of the comedy. I mean, the. The big analogy would be Peewee, right? Where, I mean, people don’t really react to how bizarre Peewee is acting most of the time either. And that’s, you know, that’s half the comedy. This is the exact same era that Peewee is big as well. So I guess, same thing. Each movie is a complete reset. You know, big top Peewee is. Doesn’t seem to be the same Peewee from the Big Adventure. Who’s not the same Peewee from the Playhouse? You know, a lot of people, too, talk about what’s the.

The actual actor’s name for Ernest? I’m blanking. Jim Varney. And just be clear. I’m not calling Jim Barney A. Okay. How dare you call Jim Varney? But all. It’s interesting, too, because Jim Varney, it comes up a lot that he was this great Shakespearean actor and that he actually had the much more potential than whatever he does with Ernest. But you never really see him working alongside anyone that necessarily adds credit to like the movies his. He’s in either. Right. Like, for example, one of the other main characters in this movie was what, Big Bob Tex, who was a boxer prior to this.

Lyles, the character Lyle doesn’t. Yeah, but like earnest movies don’t even allow him. It would have been cool to just have an earnest movie where there is like a legitimately other great actor opposite of him, where they can bounce off a little bit and you can see a little bit more of those chops. See Paul Reubens let Lawrence Fishburn onto his show playing Cowboy Curtis. Well, also. Okay, also, Paul. Paul Rubin doesn’t really get a serious role until what blow. I think below might have been his first. I think he’s got a few scattered ones. Are you counting Buffy the Vampire Slayer is serious? No.

I mean, he’s not peewee in that, but he’s not. Yeah, but it’s not serious. Yeah. And. And I mean, when, you know, when Jim Varney is delivering the speech and stuff and you can, you know, he’s doing different characters. So I think out of all the earnest movies we’re gonna see, though bad earnest. His name is Nash, you know, Mr. Nash. That’s probably the best. Best act, like classical acting earnest that you ever really get across any of the earnest movies. Everything else clearly some kind of a caricature. Another one. I revisited the first Mad Max recently where I forgot the actor’s name but the toe cutter.

And he later is the villain in Fury Road as well. Although it’s supposed to be a different guy. But part of the charm of that is they hired the Shakespearean guy there. So instead of being the sleazy thing, he’s delivering all his lines like he’s, you know, on the Shakespearean stage. Which kind of like a pirate. Yeah, sounds like pirates. Ampl amplifies the. The villain. You know, that’s a movie I feel especially America a lot of people miss because they really flubbed the release. Everyone knows the Road Warrior, but they never went and watched the first one.

Oh, also the first one for like 30 years had the worst dub in America. They dubbed English with English. Are you talking about the original Mad Max with Mel Gibson? The first one? Yes, the original. Great. It was like a low budget C level movie. I’m gonna go B level. I actually love that movie quite well. It’s one of the few movies that Just the entire movie takes place kind of mid apocalypse. You can still get ice cream, but, you know, things are going down. I don’t dislike it, but I guess the entire time I was watching it, it just, it felt like a student film more than anything else.

Well, I guess when you directly compare with the Road Warrior because it was like, well, let’s take everything that worked and amplify it, you know. I am a sucker for Hollywood budgets. I hate to say it. You know what I mean? Like, I like a good story and everything, but there it’s really hard for me to even watch a lot of movies from the 70s, even if like legitimately a good movie compared to just some absolute CGI slop that gets thrown together by a studio with unlimited budget. I, I hate to admit it, but like, that slop will get me more than the 70s movie will get me a lot of the time.

No, I’m. I’m willing to watch David lynch and his lightning machine for a while, you know. Yeah, yeah, I don’t wanna, I don’t wanna expose myself anymore. I don’t want to make any more like unsolicited exposes here. We got more lightning. Right. So big thing in the 90s as we always. Eraserhead. Right. Wasn’t the racer head lightning related as well? That was a. Well filmed throughout the 70s. But yeah, I’m probably thinking mostly a lost highway and a lightning, that sort of thing. The strobe light in the last, last episode of 90s Twin Peaks or, you know, half the episode you’re watching him stand in a room with a strobe light on.

That’s fun stuff. I think the, the other thing that I remember seeing this come up a lot in movies, 80s and 90s, is this like doppelganger concept. And there’s one thing to Ernest Goes to Jail’s credit in that they don’t do the most predictable thing where at the end you got the two clones and everyone’s like, which one is which? I was waiting for that. I was waiting for it too. And even though I’ve seen this, it’s been, you know, decade over two decades since I’ve seen this. Easily. And it didn’t happen that way. Although technically the ending wasn’t better because of it.

No. What, what else? Do it. Okay. Star Trek 6 comes out a year after that. That definitely has the, the two Kirk scene. What else? What else? Oh, there’s some other doppelgangers from around this time. There’s got to be something. Anyway, Star Trek sticks is My big hit. Well, there’s a. I mean, this is a very popular genre and I don’t know if you were expecting. John Claude Van Damme did one, right? Double team. Except I guess they were both supposed to be good. I don’t know, there’s. There’s some Van Damme doing something like that. Well, it’s.

See, it’s a motif that goes back thousands of years. And even though this isn’t technically a folk tale based movie, the doppelganger concept, it has an ATU entry. It’s ATU 403, which. Which, by the way, what is this? The. Oh, I always forget the, like the Adler Thompson Uther index or something. So they, they have a catalog of every different type of ancient, usually European, Western folklore. And they catalog all the different motifs. So this one has a few different names that they all fall into the same category. The Black and White Bride, which is where a bride or a woman is swapped out with like an evil version at the last second and then they take over power of some kingdom.

But it’s also referenced as the false hero and imposter motif. So believe it or not, this earnest movie follows an ATU index. And then I found another. Another index that’s kind of like the atu. This one is called the Thompson Motif Index. And this one is even more expansive. And this one has that. This. Because the ATU I think goes up into like the hundreds, maybe like the very early one, thousands. So the Thompson motif index catalogs everything all the way down to the point that motif K1 93 1.1 is imposter throws hero overboard into the sea.

But there’s one that relates to this one even better, and that’s a K1 933 general category, which is in which any sort of imposter throws the hero or abandons the hero into like a lower place or swaps them out in order to strand the hero and then steal their achievements or steal their life. So that there is literally a index of this exact plot line that describes everything that happens. And that’s a close cousin to the villain and hero on the roof. Right. I mean, that’s in so many things. Punchback. Dom has it. I don’t know, you just say Batman has it.

So that. That’s all over the place. Yeah. The other one too is there’s the intentional switch version, which is kind of like the Prince and the Pauper style, which. That. That’s the original story, I think, was Prince and the Pauper is one of those examples. It’s kind of that. It’s just that in this case, Ernest is an unwitting prince being swapped out with the pauper. That happens too. Was it Mel Brooks, History of The World Part 2? The Bring Me the piss boy. You know, he’s the new king. Have you ever heard of the seven people theory? This is the name for it.

Oh, I’m just sitting here thinking of 6 degrees separation, so you better. It’s not the Kevin Bacon one. The seven people theory is, and it’s cited in. In some papers by people, but that everybody on the planet has at least seven other people that look exactly like you. Like, to the. To the degree that we see in Ernest Goes to Jail, that there is a guy, it just happens to be in the same city that Ernest is in. But across the world, on average, there are seven people that are dead ringers for you that could swap you out.

As long as they could talk and act the same, that no one would really tell the difference. Well, yeah, I remember I was 14 years old, hiking in New Mexico, and I saw a guy eating a ham and I was like, wow, that really looks like me. And hey, if you think they look like you, I mean, must be on to something. Also, people tend to look very similar to each other, and I think it’s. There’s some sort of development in the human brain that we had. The same way that if you look at a whole bunch of deer.

Right. Or a whole bunch of dogs of the exact same breed. Yeah, they all kind of look the same because you’re not paying attention to all the micro differences. But we’ve kind of evolved to the point where we analyze like the tiniest of little differences in people’s faces because it’s essential to your survival. But ultimately it’s not. It’s not that uncanny that there would be somebody that is a dead ringer for you, that you actually have a doppelganger? No. It could be the homogeneous nature of the Japanese population. But I have many sets of siblings and not twins.

Like, it’s like 1’s 7 and 1’s 5. And if they’re not standing next to each other, I’m not quite sure which one I’m looking at. When they’re standing next to each other, I’m like, oh, that one’s clearly younger, that one’s older. I know which one’s which. But if I see one isolated, I might have to think about it, you know, a bit. And I think it’s important to specify here that I believe the seven people theory Is not including siblings. And it’s not that was that there are. And I mean, I. How do you really take a sample? Like, what’s the sample size when you say that? Like everyone in the world.

Right, but that’s the seven people that look like you are not related to you necessarily. One in a billion, roughly. I guess we got more than 7 billion. Alban. Oh, changing topic a little bit. Before you open, I think you have a can of worms or two that left unopened. But I just wanted to talk about the production design this movie, which actually caught my attention. The prison. We got the guards wearing pink suits and. Or uniforms. And then the way the prison looks, it’s lit the same way hell is in Bill and Ted’s Bogus Journey.

Yeah, I noticed that. And everything’s like a little bit of a slant, man. I. And I was going with the out angles. Like when. When you go up in front of the tribunal, like the judge in Bell and Ted, that’s the outfits as well, except I believe they wear, like, white. It almost looks like Grace. It has this like, 90s music video effect. Who’s the. Who’s the guy from the cars that does, like, his solo thing now? Rick Gosack. Okay, well. Well, it has, like this very, like late 80s, early 90s, like, weird synth aesthetic to everything that they’re wearing.

But the Bill and the Ted bogus Journey, I think is dead on ringer for that in the bizarre color choices. And, yeah, stick out. Just to be clear, I think the production design and Bill and Ted’s Bogus Journey is far surpasses Ernest Goes to Jail. But I like that this had the little touch. I think this movie was first. So I wonder if this was actually an influence on the latter. I have to look up the date on Bill and Ted’s Bogus Journey. I. I do like that there’s just a random undescribed version that there’s a reason that all of the prison guards have these huge shoulder pads and pink outfits versus what look like, you know, more standard kind of prisoner outfits everywhere else.

Okay. Because there is difference. There is a. I think in Arizona, they have some outdoor prisons where all the inmates wear pink jumpsuits. And it’s supposed to be a humiliation ritual, essentially. But in this case, they’ve got the cops dressed up in pink, which is kind of the inverse. It almost feels like this movie is a little bit subversive to police. Yeah. Hey, I wear some pink. I don’t care. You had a pink Loto bear shirt for Years. Yeah, I don’t, I don’t think it’s about you like an individual deciding to wear pink or not, but it’s, they’re, they’re this of power, like this authority figure and they’ve got power over you.

But then they’re also going to dress them up like they’re in like a 1980s music video, you know that. And all of a sudden that if that’s going to be the power over you, there’s a humiliation aspect that’s getting pounded into like whatever the punitive aspect is. I mean, my wife recently left her job, but as a Japanese company, they have uniforms. And she would always complain that their uniforms look like North Korean uniforms. That just sounds like gray, right? Yeah, yeah. But just, I guess the cut of it and all that was just, you know, this very like North Korea looking thing.

So, I mean, some companies have stylish uniforms, you know, I mean, most stylish police uniform I’ve ever seen in any movie. I have no uniform at my job, though. Teachers, they usually don’t ask to wear uniforms. The students maybe, but not the teachers. Although this is weird. My daughter started high school last year and her and her friends in junior high, they had uniforms. In high school they don’t have uniforms. And they all. Before school started, they all went and basically made their own school uniforms. I guess that’s also a cute thing, right, for Japan. But it’s like, oh, you want to make a uniform? Because they don’t have one.

Like, that’s weird. They still have these tracksuits too. So you still have a uniform if you want it. I feel like I’ve got a controversial opinion that I am pro school uniform. And I think that there, logically, there are so many more reasons why it makes sense than not having it. Well, the country of Japan would agree with you, at least in junior high school. Well, we agree with each other. Okay. Okay. Can a worm rip it open? Okay, well, I mean, it’s really an extension of this doppelganger mythology, but a more specific and practical example of this, of, has this happened before? Has somebody ever gone to jail because they looked exactly like somebody else that was supposed to be in jail? And not only are there so many examples of this happening in the US Alone that I actually was able to find two examples that both happen in the exact same year? And then I’ve got a much deeper, darker example I think it’s important to bring up.

But I. So, okay, so I’ve got two. One, one of them. These are both from 2022. So this is like not that long ago. A guy named Leonardo Silver Oliveira was basically a chef. And he’s picked up and sent to jail in Boca Raton. And it was because there was another criminal who was also a cook named Leonardo Silva Oliveira. They’re not related to each other. They had the exact same name. They had the exact same profession. And they looked. And they’re part of the seven. So they’re one of the seven. But here’s an example where and this guy actually ended up going to jail for like five days, I think, before they get out, which is technically longer than Ernest went to jail or at the prison.

Though they did try to execute him. So that ups the stakes, right? There was another one again in 2022, where someone named Britney Farber was trying to fly out of the country to Mexico. And there was another Britney Farber that looked like her same age and everything, and she was wanted and she ends up going to jail for, I think, like, two weeks or something like this. So it happens often enough. But again, not. Not a death sentence. So maybe not one for one. Here’s an example that does include somebody that ended up have going to jail and dying because of a mistaken identity.

And they look exactly like Lyle. Like debt. Like, as soon as Lyle came up on the the movie screen, I was like, that looks like this guy named Richard Guthrie, who also looked like a guy named Kenneth Trinidad. Have you heard of any of the. Well, aside from Lyle, have you ever heard of any of those names? No, I just heard of Lyle. Okay, so Ly’s got like the handlebar mustache, kind of looks like a biker, you know what I mean? Well, after the Oklahoma City bombing, and I know we’re talking about Ernest goes to jail on Disney movies and a cult Disney.

So what a great time to bring up the Oklahoma City bombing. Right after bombing, they caught Timothy McVey. But there were so many reports of a John Doe number two. And in even most official reports, and most people that were on the mainstream side of all the reports that came out about Oklahoma City still claim that there was absolutely a John Doe 2. But unfortunately, there was not a solid case to go against Timothy McVeigh. If you had this vague accomplice that no one could find out who they were or anything. So the official narrative put the entire Oklahoma City bombing on just Timothy McVeigh.

So one of the reports of number two was a guy named Richard Guthrie. And Richard Guthrie was like, essentially a member of one of these extremist right wing groups. He Had a dragon tattoo on his arm. He kind of had that. He looked like Lyle. He had kind of like that same look, just minus the beard and like the same exact kind of mustache. Same build, same face, everything. He looks like Lyle. Well, Richard Guthrie is wanted as a suspect for being related to Oklahoma City bombing. At the same time, there was a guy named Kenneth Trinidue who got picked up on the border for, like, a patrol for a parole violation.

And unfortunately for Kenneth Trinidadu, he looked exactly like Richard Guthrie. He even had the exact same dragon tattoo on the exact same part of his arm, which sounds so uncanny. Like, how could not. How could not only he look exactly the same, but have the exact same tattoo in the same location? Everything this really happened. And what turns out is they. They pick up Kenneth Trenado, they essentially torture him to death in the jail, trying to get information out of him about Oklahoma City. And he has no idea what they’re talking about. He’s in. He gets picked up in Texas, I believe so here.

And. And I believe after the fact, they kind of realize they bring the FBI in even to help, like, interrogate. And I think after the fact, they realize, oh, oopsie, like, we just tortured this guy to death, because, I mean, come on, he’s got the same tattoo. Anyone would have, you know, fallen for this thing. And it gets swept under the rug because it’s an obvious example of someone getting taken out because they caught the doppelganger instead of the real guy. And there are. There is so much documented evidence of this being the case. So it was so uncanny when Lyle pops on the screen in this movie about a guy that looks like another guy and swaps their.

Basically their location in prison. And the. And Ernest, in this case, the innocent, he goes on death row and dies, except for the fact that he’s immune to dying. Like, they don’t know that he’s immortal, so they. They actually kill Ernest. So anyways, if you didn’t hear about that story before, it is well worth looking into Richard Guthrie and Kenneth Trinity four years after this movie. So if you want to get into the weird quantum ripples of. Oh, they predicted it. Yeah. What did they know? Did the mate. Did the Masons. They know they’re gonna screw up.

They make the mistake on purpose. No, I don’t think we’re quite. That even. You’re not that paranoid and fun. Extra little fact just to go to the extremes that they found 30 times the amount of caffeine that you would find in a person that just drank like a 2 liter of soda. They found 30 times that amount in. In Kenneth Trinidu’s system. And that aligns it. And he had no access to caffeine because he went to breakfast that morning. But hadn’t they. He didn’t have any coffee or anything. He was in jail. So there was uncanny.

For him to have 30 times the amount of caffeine than a normal person would. That’s a common interrogation technique so that when you hurt somebody, they don’t pass out from you abusing them. So anyways, just fun fact on occult Disney family movie Ernest Goes to Jail. Now, were there any examples of someone escaping prison by means of doppelganger? No. Okay, there they were just giving us a movie, like three. Three original points for that. Then there are. I mean, there’s people that have dressed up like women and tried to escape prisoners during, like, conjugal. So Ernest does try that in this one, but he doesn’t get very far.

But there’s a pretty funny Kegel joke that he sort of slips in. And they listed as. They list him as three characters in this. They. ERNEST People are all Mr. Nash and Auntie Nelda. I’m like, no, no, Auntie Nelda is not a character. That’s Ernest. Even I can figure that out. No, and anti Nelda is the. A recurring character. That is. Yeah, he’s doing the character. I’m just. It is in the context of this movie, Ernest himself doing the character. Right. So technically, that character’s still earnest. I’m. I’m just. I’m really nitpicking at something that doesn’t matter.

Here’s another fun little tan. My last tangent, I guess, because we’re breaking down Ernest Goes to Jail. Not, you know, a golden bow retelling, but there are a number of people that have claimed to be able to control electricity and to have electromagnetism. So I don’t know if any of them have ever been proven, but here’s an example that there. I think one of them is in Russia, and the other one is in Serbia. So, like, there was a Russian kid in the early 2000s that claimed that he tried to grab a lamppost and got electrocuted from, like, a faulty wire.

And after this happened, he could. He went to bed, and when he woke up, all the coins in the room were stuck to him. So there’s actually an instance of somebody in Russia that claims they got electrocuted and became an electro magnet, just like happens to Ernest in this movie. And not only was that claim but there was another one in Serbia from, like, 2014 or something that also claims went to a doctor, and even the doctor said that his magnetism bordered on the paranormal. Now, all this really does is make me think that there’s no good doctors in Serbia or Russia.

But these were official claims that made it far enough to get international news on CBS and medical journals. It’s gotta say in a Dr. Nick voice from this Simpsons, you know. Yeah, I can’t do his voice because I haven’t watched the Simpsons in a while. But, yeah, that makes me feel bad that all those gigs in the 90s where I was playing and ungrounded microphones and getting shot through the lips multiple times, you probably know what I’m talking about. Well, and I also have to point out that another Disney movie that I mentioned before, Powder. Powder, also involved somebody that I believe got electrocuted and then turned into the ability to control, like, electromagnetics and use that to, like, launch things at people.

Like, whenever you get bit by a spider, you’re like, yeah, that sucks. I’m not gonna get any Peter Parker powers. Yeah, well, there was. There was, like, a old Family Guy from before it got canceled New Year’s episode where they all want superhuman powers. So they all start jumping into, like, this toxic sludge somewhere and thinking they all get. And one of them just, like, dies. Yeah, sure, why not? So the other tangent here, too, is that there’s also been a number of people throughout, like, the last century that have claimed to be able to control electricity and shoot electricity out of their body.

And I even remember seeing documentaries in the late 90s about, like, Tibetan monks that could go out into the snow and melt the snow all around them. I guess anyone could really melt snow around them, but that they could also, like, regulate their body temperature in weird ways. Some of them would then claim on to be able to levitate, and then some of them be able to claim to shoot either energy or electricity. So a lot of these examples are people that are, like, in China, I believe there’s a lot of Chinese claims out of this.

So one in 2020 that there was an un. Some of it went to kind of one of these, like, James Randi sort of places where. I don’t know if you’re familiar with James Randi, but it’s like, if you claim you have a paranormal ability, they go and they check it with skeptics, right? Like, if the skeptics believe you and you can prove it to the skeptics, maybe there’s something to it. Well, there was one guy that showed up in 2020 that claimed he could emit electricity from their hands, but they weren’t able to do it under controlled conditions when he submitted his power for that, so.

Or the military was there and they were like, nope, no, you know, you weren’t able to say, maybe we don’t know the American ones because they get drug off faster. I don’t know. So the, the Chinese one. So this guy, his name was John Chang and he even has a nickname called Dynamo Jack, Indonesian, Chinese guy. And he made. He became famous because he had these clips called Ring of Fire. And it was kind of this combination between martial arts and occultism where he claimed that he could build this electromagnetic ring around him and then shoot it through people and that he could generate electricity and energy with his hands and that he could like light paper on fire.

But again, under control scientific testing, he wasn’t able to reproduce it. Kind of like Uri Geller bending, I was about to say that’s like remote viewing and stuff. Like, you can’t quite prove it. Right? Well, it’s like, you know, some people can’t pee if, if someone’s like watching them. So, you know, it might have just been like a, like a stage fright thing. And then I always do my blood pressure twice because I know the first one’s going to be a false high. The. Another. Here’s another one from China, Zhang to. And his name is the Electric Man.

And he didn’t, he didn’t actually shoot electricity, but he would grab, reportedly would grab live wires and light. Light up light bulbs with his body. And it claimed that after he grabbed one of these wires that he went and cooked a fish with his bare hands right after it. So here’s like another version of someone that claims they were able to absorb electricity and then retain it and then transfer it. I guess that would be like kinetic energy. I mean, it sounds more like a curse and a blessing though, doesn’t it? I mean, unless you really like frying fish.

I don’t know. I want to just bop through a few notes. Oh, another bogus Journey connection. Drop down cage. Also in the bogus Journey. Also in this movie. Just. Yeah, they must have Bogus Journey wants to watch this movie. I don’t know. Electrified drop down cage. Right, right, right. Yeah. And then when Ernest gets one Death row. What, they send you to death row for five minutes because it’s like Nash was in the general population and now he’s going to be in death row for five minutes. Is that Is that how it works? Well, he’s seven of death row, but then apparently all of his appeals fell through within those five minutes he was in death row.

So they were like, all right, I guess let’s just get this thing over with. And then from there he gets the Paris. And. And I also start thinking Wes Craven Shocker. I think that has the same plot, doesn’t it? That’s what I was thinking before. No, it wasn’t Eraserhead. It was Shocker. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, Shocker, definitely. I was like, this is a plot of Shockers and. Which came out maybe a Same year, year earlier, somewhere around there. That was one of Wes Craven’s failed attempts to. After they did scream and I guess worked out better for him.

It was Shocker and. Which is. It’s kind of a schlocky, fun movie. But I would love to combine Shocker with Ernest Goes to Jail. I feel like if you were. Sequence mostly does it. Yeah. Nash should have gotten the electrical powers too, right. He’s a doppelganger. You know, it’s like the second superhero movie always has to be like someone else with a similar power set or the first a lot of the time. So Iron Man, Black Panther, they do it that way. We have Electro battle between Nash and that. We don’t need that at this point.

I would prefer some earnest reboots over Marvel reboots. Yeah, well, you can’t. You can’t reboot Ernest, can you? You just. You have to find. You can make earnest style movies, but you would have to find a new character actor that can handle a character like. Yeah. Can you? I don’t know if you can make Ernest style movies ever again. This. This is an example of someone that was, like, so unique, I guess. Maybe. I’m not trying to compare these two comedians, but the Jim Carrey, when they try to do the dumb and dumber, er, or whatever.

The third dumb and dumber 2t o o dumb and Dumber is the one that does not feature Jeff Daniels or Jim Carrey. Well, that’s what I’m saying. That’s. That’s exactly what I’m saying, is that there’s an example of someone that was trying to do of a very strong character actor. Because I guess the only other character, like when you talk about Jim Varney, I’m thinking like Jim Carrey kind of has that same thing with, like, his Fire Marshal Bill, like, very memorable, specific characters that he can, like, jump in and out of. And then you have a version of someone that was trying to replicate that.

And it’s. It’s not the same because it’s not just that he’s able to do it, but it’s, like, their particular way of doing it. Yeah, well, you know, Jim Barney’s basically keeping a sketch comedy vibe in these movies. Even here, where it has a little more of a plot. You know, the Beats are still mostly, like, episodic. I wonder, too, that when you willfully are able to jump in and out of those different personalities, how different from that really is, like, MK Ultra. Like. Like they’re just programming themselves to jump into altars. And maybe they don’t have to traumatize themselves in order to do it, but it’s.

It feels like it would be the exact same mechanism that you would do. We’ve heard from the. I think it’s Lawrence Olivier talking to Dustin Hoffman from A Marathon man, and he’s like, I can’t. I can’t get into it to the scene. I can’t put myself in the headspace. Like, he couldn’t order himself. And Olivia is just like, why don’t you try acting? You know, like, Hoffa’s, like, trying to do, like, method or whatever. He’s like, you don’t have to go through that. Just act. He did something similar with Tootsie, I think, where he was complaining about how he was struggling, that he was ugly as, like, a woman.

And people are kind of telling him, like, yeah, like, there’s. There’s ugly women out there. Like, you’re gonna have to just deal with that. And he said it, like, rocked his whole world and how he saw the world after that. After playing Tootsie A movie. Do people think that movie was the. Like, one of the biggest things in 1982? But I feel like it’s kind of fallen off the. It doesn’t hold up at all. I’ve seen it within the last five years just because I can’t remember what the context was. It doesn’t hold up on anything.

I think I just saw bits and pieces of. On cable in the 80s. I don’t think I’ve ever sat down to watch the movie. You know, I feel like White Girls is more culturally relevant than Tootsie at this point. Okay, there’s a statement, although I haven’t seen White Girls either, so that’s the. That’s the Wayans Brothers. What? I think I know what you’re talking about. I just haven’t seen it. Not even on your films and filth. Did that not make the chart? Well, we’re moving down the chart. We have all of the bad. All of the bad parody movies from.

From the 2000s and 2010s we just had to do. I guess I’m stirring my plug now. We just had to do Vampires suck. No, we’re doing that next. We did the Starving Games, which is a really, like, non, you know, creative title. They also did Date Movie Disaster. We have to watch all this crap. We also watch good stuff like Casablanca. That’s films and filth. Go check that out there. That’s my plug, I guess. Do you want to roll? Yeah, let’s. We’re just rolling right through. We’re getting efficient on this. I guess my plug is that by the time I edit and put this out, and even when Matt puts it out, because you’re going to put this out like really quick.

But go check my new episode out on Tinfoil Hat with Sam Tripoli where I get into some pretty crazy conspiracy theories that get really out there. And I’ve got another one on the Paranoid American podcast. We just did an episode called Bad Masons where we break down every single of the most horrific obscene claims leveraged against freemasons from the 1800s all the way up into the 2000 and twenties. And I mean, like, we talk about every single one that has come up in the news or has been leveraged against them. So that sounds interesting. It’s probably one of the more interesting episodes I’ve done in a minute.

Go and check that out. And I was just talking about Kenneth Trenadu and the Oklahoma City bombing. Well, forgive me, that’s also been on my mind lately because I had a three hour interview with Tanya Yakey, who was the wife of the first responder, Terrence Yakey, who was taken out by the government, allegedly. I got to put that in in the quotes here. But that he was taken out by the. The government for seeing things at the Oklahoma City bombing that did not align with the official narrative and he wasn’t dropping it. So very, very important and incredibly, like she said that she gave me some information that hasn’t made it into any other major news outlet up to this point.

So three bangers, Tinfoil Hat episode with Paranoid American, Bad Masons with Magic Mike and then interview with Tanya Yakey. All right. Of course, that. That darkened up. Well, here I’ll do my outro. But now I feel bad doing it after, after that story. Oh, no. Because at the end of the interview I asked her about if she believes in flat Earth and Big Bigfoot. So we get silly with it, even though it’s a pretty heavy topic about the. The murder of her husband. Okay, well. And in honor of that, I’ll just do it lackluster and I won’t put any sugar on it, you know.

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