Frozen 2 Decoded: Mountains Are Giants Water Has Memory

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Frozen two again. This is Matt here, as always. Over there. It’s a paranoid American. How it being? Every inch of me is trembling, but it’s not from the cold. It’s because we got Anna Nicole Wordsmith here again. Since you were here for the first Frozen, it’s only right that you came back for Frozen 2 and eventually Frozen 3. Although that’s like a year away. Oh, is that on the way? Okay, yeah, I’ll be here. I’ll be back. Welcome back. Are we you ready to talk Frozen? Yes. Thank you so much for this cordial invitation. So I think we got a fire episode and ice and air and water and the Fifth Element.

Perfect. I’m feeling a bit nuts at the moment. As I was mentioning before I started hitting, I. I have another podcast. I’m having two conversations at once, which is really trippy. It’s like voices in my head. I’m being tormented like, like Elsa and her powers for the next few minutes. I think that’s appropriate because one of the themes that I was not. So I went into Frozen two. Never saw it before. Mixed feelings on the first one, but like, you know, open minded on this one. And I came away thinking that this movie is the most references to mental disorders even more than Winnie the Pooh, where like everyone’s got these Winnie the Pooh breakdowns where every character represents a different mental disorder because it’s based on a shell shocked World War I vet.

Right. But I think that this might at least tie. I think Frozen two ties in the amount of different mental issues that all the characters have. So you’ll. I think you’ll fit right at home right on this one. I got a little pre loaded for this movie. One of my friends who watched it when it came out or whatever, he’s like, oh, he, he liked it. He’s like, oh, it’s like an X Men movie in a way. Which honestly. And that had me stoked to watch it for years. And watching it last night, I Don’t really see where he was coming from with that.

Oh, yeah. What do you. X Men Anna, I guess, because Elsa’s got her powers. Go ahead. Oh, no, that was just. I can’t add to the X Men conversation because it’s not. Because it’s not valid. And whoever said that was wrong, objectively. Yeah. Having watched it, I’m gonna say that they. They were wrong on that course, but. Well, is. Is this everyone’s first viewing? Had you done Frozen 2 before? This was my first viewing last night, so I watched it a little bit on my. When I was preparing for our Frozen one episode, and it, like, the.

The TV just, like, went directly into it. And so I was. Started watching it, and I thought I was like, oh, this has, like. This has, like, occult stuff in it. So that’s when I told Thomas, like, bring me back for this one. We want to talk Disney occult. And I agree. I mean, I went into this one blind first viewing just a few days ago. And I think that this is one of the more occult Disney movies, even if you rewind all the way back into the 1930s. Like, I. I honestly feel that this one is up there with Snow White.

Maybe not in terms of our ranking, but in the occult ranking. Absolutely. I. This was in the, you know, this. That we talked about in Frozen. But this was one of the ideas for Disney and make a movie starting from, like, this could have been Snow White. Right. And then this. They never really worked the plot out, or I’m sure it just sat on a back burner for years and years at a time as well, but. Right, because you said Snow White was the first ever Disney movie. Right, Right. The first fully animated Disney movie. That and Gulliver’s Travels, which was the Fleischer Studio.

Okay. So starting with Snow White, and we’re still in the Frozen and the whole, like, Disney Frozen head, like, rumor, and the Disney, like, there’s so much, like, Disney ice connection. Yeah. But that’s one of my favorite Disney conspiracy theories. That he was cryogenically frozen, or maybe just his head, but whatever. And that Disney was so sick of having to answer questions about Walt Disney’s frozen head that they made a movie called Frozen. So now if you look it up, you get distracted, and you just end up streaming Frozen again. Yeah. Although a movie about Walt Disney’s frozen head, objectively, I think would get more attention than Frozen 3.

Or maybe it’s part that would be so Fun in Frozen 3 if they just kind of had, like, a frozen Walt Disney head. Like Stuck in the sight of an iceberg. It’s just like a hidden Mickey. Well, the iceberg, yeah. The iceberg represents our subconscious. So maybe we’re all living inside of Walt Disney’s frozen head. Is that. That’s why we all have mental issues, as we’re different. The voices in my head just cut out. It’s great. I’m finally here. That was such a weird experience, y’. All. Well, now you’re. Now you’re going to be on board, I think, because the examples in this movie is that Kristoff is still going crazy.

Like, Kristoff imagines that the reindeer can talk to him, that Sven talks. Right. And even talks for Sven. So it feels like they’re playing this gag, that he’s got a mental issue. Elsa is hearing voices and she’s afraid to tell people because they’re so objectively real to her. Anna just acts crazy. Like, there’s even a scene when Kristoff is talking to her and he’s like, you know, you’re not crazy. You’re like, don’t get crazy. And then she makes, like, the crazy face. It’s like, I’m not crazy. Like, so you can tell that she go, she at least would have been committed if it were the early, you know, 20th century.

And then Olaf. I’ve got a building theory that Olaf represents yellow snow. It’s a snowman made out of amanita mascara. Reindeer pee. Okay, you can’t sit on that. Let’s go deeper into that. Tell me about the reindeer. Well, I’m gonna sit on it a little bit. But. But essentially this Frozen 2 explicitly talks about the Sami people, which, if you. If you get deep into enough, I’ll just like over summarize it. But there was at least four or five plus different tribes of Siberian Shaman. But as the explorers came across them, they all just would, like, group them into the same thing.

And then eventually the Sami become an umbrella term for all Siberian shaman, so that the Sami are popularized. I think it was the sacred mushroom in the cross, or at the very least it would have been Jan Irving’s Astro Theological Pharmaceutical Inquisition or something. And they talk about how the Sami people are representative of Santa Claus and that the seeing elves hanging up the stockings by the fire with care, the white and red presence being placed under the tree. That all of this was based on Sami traditions of eating Amanita mascaria mushrooms during the winter. So that, like, in this case, you’ve got Olaf as that magical pea.

He’s like the magical snow because that. That’s the theory is that the reindeer would pee in the snow and that would pre process all the toxins out of the amanita. So now if you eat that snow, you end up flying and hallucinating and seeing all sorts of crazy reality. So that’s Olaf. Olaf is like this. This psychedelic pee that they’re bringing everywhere with them. Olaf is connected to Elsa, though. Like, when he. She dies, he dies. Well, she’s the. Olaf is magic. And when she loses her magic, Olaf goes away, and when she regains her magic, he comes back.

So in my mind, that’s just. Elsa ran out of the supply. She needed to go get more mushrooms. And when she’s got more mushrooms, Olaf comes back, because that makes sense. Is it the same Olaf, though? You know, it’s like. It’s. It’s like the whole Star Trek transporter thing. It’s like when you use the transporter. Did you just die and get. And this other thing on the other side is like a recreation because I. I was there. Like, is this real, you know, real Olaf that we had before is a new thing, you know? Well, you could say the same about her.

Like magic water horse. Right, but that doesn’t talk to you and to have a personality. Right? Well, we don’t know. Talks to a bit, but I feel like the water horse is going to be a bigger role in Frozen 3. The water horse was, like, significant to me because that was like. It was in the sea. Right. She was in the dark sea. And the. Our hippocampus is a seahorse. Like, that’s where that name comes from. And so it’s like, associated with, like, the memory and the mind and the taming. And Poseidon, the God of the sea is like, he has horses.

Like, he’s also the God of horses. There’s something like, significant about that seahorse thing. And this, like, the sea being so connected to horses, like Mari and mare and dreams. And is. Is this freshwater or salt water? Do we even know? I think we’re on a fjord, so I think we’re talking salt water, which doesn’t really. Does that free. The fjords freeze with salt water? Yeah, you could. Yeah. I mean, those, you know, they go to North Pole. It’s frozen up there, right? North enough. Go to the most northern town, they have to go north in this movie.

Yeah. And it’s not like freshwater seas. What are. Are there even freshwater seas? I mean, you know, lakes. Right. So the. The Great Lakes would be the. The biggest freshwater seas, I suppose, which you Know, the Great Lakes can get pretty gnarly in the, in the, you know, a storm or something. Yeah. You’ve got fresh water that can feed into the sea, but once you’re at the sea, you’re no longer going to be fresh water. Yeah, yeah. I should I. Oh, go ahead. Was it. Which is relevant because this entire. I guess if you were to.

To boil down the one most occult thing that they really try and stress in Frozen 2, it’s this whole like, water has memory stuff. So water, even more than ice, I think is kind of the focal point of this entire movie. Yeah, the dam. The damned Chekhov’s dam. Yeah. As soon as you see the dam, you’re like, oh, yeah, that thing’s coming down. By the end of the movie, not even knowing the story yet. Like, it has to. You’re like, oh, it’ll be like a disaster. Like the villain does it. No, the heroes have to do it.

So I guess that was a surprise. But you know, it’s like, oh, that’s such a big gift that you gave. Yep, yep, that thing’s gonna break. I kind of like too that I was expecting some sort because we’re talking about 21st century Disney for kids. So there has to be like an anti colonizer message and they were able to like weave it into that towards the end. So it sort of like hits all of your expectations, but it does them in fun ways. I do a chat, an international chat, though. Again, this for Star Trek. I won.

One of my regulars is from Norway and apparently this movie did have people like, they felt like Sami stuff was like being dealt with a little bit weirdly in this movie. Again, because the Sami in this movie and at large tend to be this all encompassing representation of many other smaller groups. And also just I guess at the end, the premise is that the Sami are like, oh yeah, we need these white girls to run everything now. Like, let’s go ahead. Like, even though her great grandpa colonized and ruined our entire culture and like created warfare and destroyed our lands, let’s give her great granddaughter a chance at running our culture and her sister can run on the land.

So it’s, it’s sort of funny that they do the colonizing acknowledgement, but then they still put the two white girls at the head of everything. Yeah, I guess it’s like if in Pocahontas, if John Smith is like running the tribe by the end of the movie, you know, that would, that wouldn’t. Wouldn’t really feel right. So it did rub a few people in Norway the wrong way. I mean, I don’t think it was like a major controversy, but, you know, it’s like us watching Pocahontas being like, I don’t think they’re doing this right. You know, so, I mean, Rangers would watch for.

It’s. It was the Nordic people that actually pushed the Sami and the rest of them out of their land. So it wasn’t Disney’s fault. They’re the ones that actually did it. So maybe they’re just angry because Disney’s holding up a mirror a little bit too close. I usually do some production chatter. I mean, this one almost doesn’t need it. It’s like Frozen two. Of course they’re gonna make Frozen two. You know, they made all the money in the universe with the first one. Right. So it’s kind of an inevitability. Apparently they. They did their normal thing of, oh, we’re really trying to up the tech for the animation, which I think I saw in this.

This is the first one a while where it did seem to be like a few notches up on the. The digital animation scene. I can give you specifics on. Yeah, well, no, it’s. I assume that this was a money printer for Disney. Exactly. Yeah. I mean, it’s like if anyone had dropped out of this movie, they would have replaced them. Because this movie’s like an inevitability, you know, more than most things, I think. So the initiation and a descent into the feminine mysteries. It wasn’t just a money maker. Well, I think money maker first and foremost and everything else is just like a nice ancillary thing for Disney.

And even. So, look, this was me think thinking back to, like, as a kid, if this movie came out and I was between 8 and 12 or whatever, it’s obviously not meant for my demographic as a. A totally super machismo straight guy. Don’t question my sexuality at all if I like this movie. But as I’m watching it, I. Especially at the very end, after Elsa converts into like the fifth element sort of thing. Like, she’s like lilu at the end. But even the. The outfit she puts on, it looks like an actual leotard that you could go out and buy at the store that day.

And then the horse that she’s riding around on, I swear, it seemed like a Barbie commercial that I saw in the late 80s where Barbie has like a crystal horse. And just the whole ending sequence when Elsa’s riding the horse and she’s got the leotard on, I’m just. I’M like, I see at least five or six different products that Disney could bring to market during the and I’m sure they did. I’m sure. But it almost like I couldn’t tell the difference. It was almost like he man. Right? Like, at what point are they writing stories for kids? Or is it all just a commercial to sell product? And the last half of this movie not taking away from it, but it just felt like a really impressive commercial.

So as soon as you leave here, imagine if they had like a get like exit through the gift shop for Frozen two. And as you leave, it’s like Elsa on her horse and Elsa leotards and Olaf stuffed animals. Like, it would be perfect. Yeah, I mean, Halloween 2019. I’m pretty sure that there were probably some folks stolen through neighborhoods with the leotard and, you know, fake horse or something. Did this come out in October? I can give you. Or at least it is 2019. Sorry, I got to scroll up for that date. It came out. Oh, no, too late for Halloween.

They missed that November 7, 2019. And then the next year is 2020. So. Hey, I guess this never took for Halloween. Well, that makes sense, though, because it’s like a kind of Christmassy, right? Because you’ve got the Sami connection to Santa and everything’s all ice. Like, it feels like a Christmas movie. Yeah, a little bit. Yeah. I, I don’t know. I, I. It sounds like you were very much in this movie. I didn’t hate watching it, but did I just watching it and please argue the point. But I, it just felt so unnecessary other than we want to print money.

Like, I didn’t really feel like there was much reason to continue the story in most. I’ll convert you. I’ll convert you by the end of this. Let’s do it. Okay. And you said Fifth Element, and I’m already. Oh, that makes a lot more sense than the, than the feller told me. You know X Men, right? Okay, Fifth Element. That fit. She. She is a Leeloo by the end of this. For me, it was Captain Planet, too. I haven’t seen much Captain Planet. Only I just saw the clip where Captain Planet flies into a, into a room and has to confront, like, a handlebar mustache Hitler.

Have you seen that clip? It’s from the cartoon series. Or is this like the Don Cheadle one? No, it’s from the cartoon series and it’s a rewatch. Did you ever see Captain Planet growing up? Me? Yeah. No. God, I feel like such a, like such an idiot whenever I Talk to you guys. Because 90% of the movies are the shows or the comics or anything that you guys have seen. I’ve never seen, you know, I see Captain Planet and change the channel. As a kid I was not into Captain Planet, so I didn’t hate it. I didn’t hate it because they had cool toys that you could.

Well, the cool toy was one of them had sparks so you could actually create a fire. Maybe I was just a pyromaniac as a kid, but it felt like that felt cool that you could actually start a fire with one of their toys. But I don’t think that you guys are necessarily in the minority. Almost everyone that I have ever brought up, Captain Planet, some people have heard of it. Like they know the general premise and they might have heard the theme song or something, but no one actually watched it except for me I guess, because I was super lame.

But the premise of Captain Planet is that they had earth, wind, air, fire, and then Heart was which like the Indian guy that had like a little monkey. And then with their powers combined formed Captain Planet. And Captain Planet would come and he would write things that people had modified with the Earth. Whether it be toxic sludge or putting up a freaking dam to wipe out a. A native and indonesious population. So it almost feels that that’s the premise of this movie is that they re summon the four basic elements and then they discover, oh, there’s a fifth element that combines all this together.

Although they don’t call it heart and they don’t summon Captain Planet. But it’s the. The end result is the same in which they basically dismantle a capitalist colonizers, you know, nefarious plans for the world and reverse it. And that’s kind of the story here. But they’re just doing it in like, I guess like somewhere between the 13th and 17th century. I’m not really sure exactly where this takes place. I am, I. I don’t know. I’m assuming this is 19th. To be honest, it doesn’t seem like that far in the past. But yeah. So I think the 13th through 17th is when the Nordic people push the Sami out of their original land.

So this is. Yeah, if it’s far enough along that we’re in like 19th century, then this is just like post era. Like Sami are already relegated to the same. The same way that America put all the Native Americans in. In like you know, camps where. In the places we didn’t care about. So this is like after they’ve been pushed as far north into Siberia until they essentially get eradicated. There is a real life situation sort of tracks on this movie. A hydroelectric power station was built on the Alt Vera. I can’t. I don’t know, you know, Norwegian, but Altava river in Norway from 1979 to 1981.

And this dam flooded a Sami village, disrupting traditional hunting and herding. And this is 1979. So it’s the. The actual incidents are, you know, pretty modern for. For what this movie is getting at, which is more evidence that this is one of the more occult and serious Disney movies of the last century, I think. Well, yeah, let’s start ripping some band aids off if you want to follow a note trail. Yeah, I. I just started watching this movie and was sad that, oh, just a Little Mermaid theory still work that the parents, you know, shipwreck, and that ship is what Ariel finds, which this movie unfortunately disproves.

It does the James Bond Skyfall thing where I wanted to think all the James Bonds were different people. That was a code name. And Skyfall makes it clear. No, he is James Bond. And this movie makes it clear. No, Anna and Elsa’s parents did not end up in Ariel’s undersea kingdom because the boat is now up on dry land. I feel like it’s still possible. It’s still possible, but now you got to stretch the taffy a whole lot more to get there. Right, so. Well, the. One of the main premises here is that it’s the family of Elsa and Anna that took over this.

This area that were run by the Northuldra people, which is fictional, but Northuldra is obviously referenced to, like, these Sami people. So this is based on, like, this actual historical aspect of it. But then there’s also the Enchanted Forest, which is another thing that we don’t really see. We don’t see many Enchanted Forests in Disney unless it gets back to, like, classic Disney roots. So I feel like that’s an intentional nod of, hey, we’re going back to our roots in this. And then also, just quick question. Is Anna dating Olaf? Like, there’s like, some weird tension between Anna and Olaf of, like, you were made for me, and you’re perfect for me.

Like, I get that she’s got a thing going with Kristoff, but I almost feel that she’s more into Olaf than she is with Kristoff. Is that just me? Well, you need more screen time for Olaf because nobody cares about Kristoff. Yeah, Olaf’s like, the inner child. This feels like, like, I. Well, until you mentioned all the mental illness at first, I had started this movie thinking everyone was much more, like, healed and integrated. Like, Anna wasn’t so, like, anxiously attached, and Elsa wasn’t so, like, avoidant and. But when you brought up all the mental issues, I was like, okay, yeah, fair point.

Well, Elsa’s the most obvious one. She’s literally hearing voices, and she realizes that if she tells people that, it’ll make her sound crazy. So she kind of hides it and keeps it to herself, which, in my mind, it almost, like, makes it more legitimate. Like, now you actually have schizophrenia because you know that someone’s going to Baker act you. And now she’s not going to be able to buy guns if someone finds out that she hears voices summoning her. So, like, she’s making sure that that doesn’t happen. And she even has a. A song where she calls it her secret siren.

And I. And I feel like if there is a Little Mermaid link, maybe that’s it. Maybe it’s. Ariel is the secret siren. It’s like, it’s the call from within, right? It’s like calling her to, like, face her, like, fears and face her darkness. Like, remember how, like, back in the 80s, there were so many horror movies and, like, the call was always coming from inside the house. Like, they’re like, the call. It’s coming from inside. And that was, like, also, like, symbolic, I think, of us and, like, our own calls that are coming from within the house.

So she’s. It was also based on an actual serial killer in the U.S. i think it was called the Babysitter Killer, and he would actually sneak into people’s houses and then call the babysitter while he was inside the house and then, like, murder them. That was the story. Yeah. Got it. Getting back to the mental. Mental health, though. But because Elsa is shown to be still relatively not confident, she’s still having her ice problems, too, right? So, you know, the first version, like, happily Ever after, but the first shot, she’s accidentally freezing the. You know, the.

The railing on. On the balcony. What did you make of her freezing on the word ice when they were playing charades? Maybe kind of like a mental twitch. I mean, sometimes you hear a word. If you have something really up your crawl, it’s going to, you know, do that. Right. But what would do that for me in a game of charades? I don’t know. We all have our weird. I was, you know, I was getting my hair cut, and I have this thing because when I was six years old, a barber accidentally cut my ear. And now whenever the buzzer comes near my ear.

Even last week, I’ll get this weird twitch at the bottom of my back. I have, like, hold the chair so I don’t, like, switch my head. It’s really weird response. It’s a trauma response from my six years. Even when it happened, it was, oh, it’s bleeding. Oh, that’s. I wasn’t, like, crying or freaking out as a kid, but it’s just like, I guess every time a buzzer comes near my ear now I’m just like, I have this weird back twitch because of that. Like, oh, you’re going to get cut again or something. You know, I have a strong feeling that we don’t see.

We don’t see this in the frozen movies for obvious reasons, but I feel that Elsa has a body count or, like, she accidentally probably froze some people to death or, like, maimed people, and they lost arms and limbs from frostbite, it seems, because of how. How clumsy she is with her power and how, like, easy. She has accidents. It just seems that she would have tried to put ice under someone’s feet. So they slip, which we see her doing this one, right? She kind of, like, everyone stop fighting, and she puts the ground and she makes it ice, and they all kind of, like, fall back.

But I feel like to get to where she’s at, she tried that a few other times and just froze people’s legs off and they died. So now whenever she goes to intentionally use her power, she probably goes through her own PTSD where it’s like, oh, my God, all the bodies. Well, she almost kills Anna twice in the first. Frozen. Right. Like, as a child and as a, you know, teenager, whatever she is at this point. Yeah. There might be a horrible analogy here that Don’t. Don’t hold this against me, but of, like, the female cops that end up, like, accidentally causing fatal shots more often because they’re like, shoot to draw.

Like, maybe Elsa’s got a body count like that. But again, we’re not going to see that until frozen three. And they stuck in a room for, what, 15 years? Right. So obviously, there were some reasons to do that, but she stuck herself in the room, right? Yeah, but if you have a body count, you might decide to do that. Right? And, you know, locking yourself in a room at the age that it happens at so that people, when they encounter trauma, they’re, like, frozen at a certain age. And I like how you say that she was frozen while they’re playing charades because it was like she was mentally frozen.

So which it still made sense even though she didn’t do the physical frozen part. Yeah. When did charade start as a game? I’m also like I’m on the fence. I don’t really know exactly how to interpret this because by the end of Frozen 2, they. They’re implying that Elsa isn’t necessarily in charge of ice, that she can control all elements. Plus she’s the fifth element that bridges the natural world to the world of magic, so. But she still wears her ice leotard, but she’s now she’s riding a horse made of water and she’s got a little pet, a little salamander that represents fire called Gill.

So now she’s incorporating all of the different sort of elements. Right. And she’s. She is the fifth. Salamanders and alchemy are represent fire and transformation to. I forgot where. Yeah, no, we. We get a lot. I was noticing that because I was like, you know, they, they. Maybe that’s the reason it’s here because I’m keep thinking, oh Rapunzel. Because that has like the lizard or whatever. No, no, they’re so it seemed like too similar to Rapunzel. Unless hers was the Rapunzel’s was a chameleon. This one is clearly the salamander because the salamander was likened to fire and magic and an alchemy.

And sometimes it would be used as an example of like add fire to this thing. It would be like at a salamander. And I think it was also because there is a type of salamander that they would find in hearths because it would go in there for. I can’t remember what the exact reason was. But like salamanders would be found in hearths. So there became this folklore that they actually were born of the fire that if you had like if you had a fire and then it died out, that you might just find a salamander that.

That manifested from being there and fun enough. There’s some tangents here that might even connect to Mormonism because a lot of the books that Joseph Smith was reading had direct relation to like this older coal alchemical stories. And there’s a story about him getting into a boxing match with a frog that later I think gets turned into a salamander. And then the famous salamander papers which were reported as a hoax. But anyways, occult salamander connection is very deep in this movie about that. This is like a little bit not related. But like they didn’t they think that electric eels were created from like mud and Lightning.

Because, like, nobody’s ever observed eels breeding in the wild. Or even even just like, English, like the eel pudding style eels. I think the exact same thing is that it was mostly a mystery. I think there might have been a couple isolated cases in which they were able to see at least the steps of them creating. But, like, for the last millennia almost, it was one of those, like, it’s magic. Like, they just go into the mud and they make a new one. It’s like you cut a worm in half and it makes two. And that’s how you make worms.

Yeah. I mean, we don’t know how most things are born. We just assume we do, don’t we? Have you ever seen a baby pigeon? Right, we got into that. Have I even seen, like, a baby. Have I seen a baby. What? Raccoon? No, you know, I mean, I assume there’s baby raccoons, but, you know, I don’t know that I haven’t seen a raccoon being born. Here’s another thing, too, is that Elsa ends up going and waking up these magical spirits in this enchanted forest. And as soon as she does that, I guess magic takes over the town.

But then I was trying to figure out, like, what the meaning was of this so that they actually say this verbatim. Air rages. No fire, no water. And then the Earth is next. But why would the air rage? But then there’d be no fire and no water. How about no air, no fire, no water. But why is it windy yet? They don’t have any fire or water. Did the wind blow away the fire in the water? My shorthand watching it was. I guess I just went straight to, like, thinking of, like, a Brigadoon situation. It’s like, what, the Scottish, Welsh town or whatever? Just.

It only appears, like every once in a while. That. That was the vibe I got. What’s a Brigadoon? Brigadoon. It’s the. It’s a Broadway musical, it’s a movie, but it’s a town that only appears, like, once every 50 years or something. Like out of the mist or whatever. That. That’s kind of the vibe I got, because it seemed like the Arendelle army and these Sami stand ins were kind of trapped in this magical mist, right? Yeah, they were like, inside of a magical force field, like. Like a Stephen King. The. What is it? The bubble or whatever was it called? There’s under the dome.

Yeah, yeah. There was like, an under the dome thing going on here. Well, and they went through a vortex, like on the wizard of Oz. It was like the same type of story, right? Isn’t it wizard of Oz? An initiation descent, too. Like, Glinda represents Isis and, like the feminine mysteries. And so she enters through a portal. It’s the same thing with Anna and Elsa into the forest. That’s a good point with Oz and different interpretation of Oz, I’ve said. Sometimes you’ll see a flat map. Sometimes it looks like a continent that’s maybe part of Earth.

You’ll see versions of Oz where it’s like, oh, maybe Oz is a planet. You know, it’s never really clear what Oz is. And I guess it’s not very clear what the magical mist forest is here either. Yeah, because it’s a spiral, right? The yellow brick road is a spiral, too, like the golden ratio and the ever expandingness of consciousness. But, yeah, the mist. I don’t know what is that? Those people are trapped in the mist, right? Those, like, those spirits or those energies. Yeah, well, it’s her great grandpa and her dad, and then all these Sami people, or what the hell they call them.

The North. The north peoples. I guess we can call him Sami since that’s like, the real name, right? So that’s like. I don’t know. I don’t want to trigger any swami. There’s like, ancestral karma there that’s like replaying until it’s righted. Right? Because there’s that line where he’s like, a wrong must be righted. I don’t know. I don’t remember them verbatim like you do. It was. It turns into conspiracy theory, where it’s sort of the quotes are, the past is not what it seems, and the truth must be found. So now you’re almost on, like, a national treasure journey where you realize.

Or like, it’s. I guess Nancy Drew might be a better analogy here, because now it’s Elsa and Anna trying to figure out, okay, like, what’s this mystery that has to do with our grandparents and these Sami people? Just to throw out the brigadier. I’m looking at a description here. Brigadoon is a mysteriously blessed village that appears out of the mist once every hundred years for only a day. This was done so that the village would never be changed or destroyed by the outside world. So that. That seems to have some. Some, you know, connection with what we’re seeing here.

Except instead of a village, this is a battle site where you. You go into them and they’re still fighting. Right? Has it been a day like in Brigadoo? It’s like, I guess they only exist for one day every 100 years. So for the. I guess in the people in the mist, the time has not passed. It’s like a vortex and time vortex, like uncleared energy that just keeps, like, replaying. Which makes sense because if it’s in a mist, and the main premise of this movie is that water has memory, then would be water. So they’re like perpetually stuck in this state.

I guess. Because the water in the mist. Yeah. And then the gate into this, there’s like a series of, like, standing stones, Right. I guess they’re the more Scandinavian type, but yeah. Which. Those are the elemental stones, I guess. And then. Yeah. I don’t know. Interesting stuff. Which, again, that’s how Fifth Element does it. The Fifth Element movie. It’s the Stones, Right. Gotta love a good standing stone over here and there. And water. Water is a. The feminine. It. It’s like the feminine force. Right. The unconscious, the subconscious. And so this is like a female. A female lead movie.

Let me go. Here’s. Here’s the thing with this movie. I got this weird vibe watching it. And maybe I didn’t like it as much as you did, but I. I had, like. It felt like the second album of 90s rock bands. You know, if this is a weird. This is just what went through my head last night. Like, you get the first Gin Blossoms album, you like it. The second one you get. It’s completely boring. Or, you know, what was the other one? I wrote down the Strokes. Right. You get the first Strokes. That was great.

The second one, like, it still sounds right, but it’s just like. I don’t know. For me, there seemed to be something. Is it. Is it corporate cynicalness? Is it just, like, maybe I didn’t like the story enough? I don’t know. I mean, again, you’re not Target demo maybe in gender or age or interest, Right? But my daughter was five when the first Frozen came out. So I have seen the first frozen, like, probably 20 times. And then when the short came out of Frozen Fever a year later, we watched that. By the time this came out, she was 10 and not we.

I mean, I guess she didn’t care that much, so we never saw it. Well, okay. Well, I mean, it seems that Frozen 2 isn’t a movie you would see without seeing Frozen 1 first. So. And it makes sense because a lot of the things that they get set up and like the fact that Elsa has powers, it truly is a movie that expects that you’ve already seen all the context and backstory of the first one. There’s a few Disney sequels of Rescuers down under is maybe not the best example, but it’s an example where you didn’t have to see the first Rescuers.

You can just go into Rescuers down under blind and you’re totally fine. I’d even argue The Toy Story 2 does the same thing. Even cars too, you don’t necessarily have. There’s nothing that gets established that’s so important in the first of those movies that it. The rest of it doesn’t make sense. But frozen 2 is not the same. You have to see frozen 1 to get the whole weird dynamic between the sisters and the fact that one’s got power and one doesn’t. And why do I care about Olaf that’s voiced by this really annoying Josh Gadvoy.

Like, you have to almost be pre invested to really give Frozen 2 the chance. But I do think that Frozen 2 is a superior movie to Frozen 1 in terms of occultism and lessons. But I was finding myself, like, critically as I’m watching it, hating all the songs and almost wishing they were needle drops because a song would come on and it was like, oh God, they’re just trying to pad together an original soundtrack to sell people at the end of this. And it just, it was like I felt like a Regina George. Like, stop trying to make the Frozen 2 soundtrack happen.

Yeah, I. I definitely was like, these songs were not hitting it for me. So I guess it’s the same people doing it. But again, second album syndrome. Right? Where are you at on the music on this one, Anna? I, you know, I got. I agree. There was no song in the second movie that I was like, oh, I could sing along to that one. Or I would ever listen to the soundtrack again. Like, it was kind of annoying. Like the. Some things never change. But then like, yeah, the whole movie, everything was always changing. I didn’t really understand that one.

It’s just. Yeah, there’s no song in that movie that got. And I was the first one. Let it Go. Still get stuck in people’s heads pretty well. Do you want a little snowman? Those stick around. So, yeah, the first one definitely had some earworms that this one didn’t. I guess most of the songs seem to be like, let’s make a song on the template of the one that was successful from the first movie. I, I had a note here too though, because at the, at the very beginning of this movie and when I say beginning, like in the first 15 minutes, you’re already like four songs in, so I can’t remember if it was the fourth or the fifth song.

They load them in here. But it’s when Elsa’s fighting her schizophrenia and she’s talking about how she doesn’t want anyone to know that she’s going crazy and they’ll lock her up and all this stuff. And then she runs to her balcony and opens the window and starts scream. Singing is the only way that I can. Like, not the fun, like, death metal version, but just, like, screaming as loud as you can and singing out there about, like, how this. The secret schizophrenia that she’s going through. But it’s like, that’s the last thing you would do would be to open up your tower and start screaming at all the people below how you’re going crazy.

But it needs to be kept a secret. Well, she’s like, I don’t know. It makes sense. Mystery practice, though, is like, we all kind of, like, lose our minds a little bit. Like, when you guys were, like, waking up. How long ago is that for you? When I was born. I don’t know. I mean, 90s, mid-90s, late-90s. Okay. Well, for me, it was, like, during COVID So, like, I definitely went crazy for a little bit, like, for a while. And I think a lot of people still are very crazy. Okay, so. So you’re saying this was, like, her network moment where she’s like, I’m mad as hell, and I’m not going to it anymore.

That was her screaming out the. The window. You need someone to rant to. That’s the thing. If. If you are having that moment of wackiness, you need to be able to rant at someone. And she’s ranting to the winds, which maybe not. That’s not the best choice, but she does get a Broadway musical number to do it with, even if it’s not the best one. She’s acting like someone that knows there’s not an actual insane asylum to be carted off to in this town. And she’s. And she’s answering the call from within. The. The call from within.

We all got at some point to wake up, right? Technically, we all made a decision to, like, wake up at a certain time. You much sooner than me eventually. But in. In this moment, in this song, it’s actually the rejection of the call. If we’re doing, like, the hero’s journey beats like this is before. She actually accepts that call. But, like, she’s hearing it. Like, it is a literal rejection. She’s hearing the voice, and she’s like, no, I can’t like, not today, Satan. I can’t deal with this right now. Yeah, okay. She’s resisting until she embraces.

There is also the, like, if you’re waking up, becoming more enlightened. I always talk about, does it go both ways? Because, you know, once I got into, like, meditation, all that sort of stuff, and started reading more esoteric books and stuff, and I’m looking at song lyrics I wrote, like, 10 years previous that I’m like, wait a minute. I wrote about these ideas and these songs, you know, And I didn’t even. I didn’t know that, you know, I wrote them. I remember writing them, but I. Now I’m reading them again. I’m like, hey, I put the idea in this thing 10 years ago.

Which, you know. Yeah. It’s, like, channeled from your subconscious. Exactly. As well. Say it’s coming straight from the subconscious. I’m like, oh, yeah, there it is. So even the idea of, like. I mean, I guess everyone’s. You know, you decide how awake you are sometimes, don’t you? I know. I kind of feel, too, though, like, maybe you inherently understand things that are fairly deep, and then over the years, you just, like, ascribe all this extra meaning and layers on top. So if you go back and read old poems or songs or, like, you know, journal entries, it’s like, oh, man, I was so ahead of my time.

Like, not really. You’ve just kind of, like, dressed it up and put, like, you’ve. You’ve bedazzled all of your beliefs for the last 10 years, and you’ve convinced yourself that, like, only the bedazzled version is, like, the right one, but really, like, the original might have been just as good. Yeah, I’m like, if. If you’re in a good headspace, if you’re enjoying your life, I mean, you know, you’re. You’re already kind of, like, riding the way, aren’t you? Yeah. That’s fair. Here. Here’s another thing that didn’t make sense to me is when they first go into that magic mist under the dome area, and they see their dad frozen, being saved by a woman, they’re like, oh, that woman.

You know, it’s. It’s saving dad. And then they do a song and dance, and they talk about what water remembers everything. And then it’s like, wait, that’s Mom. Like, they take a deeper look at it. Are they. Are we saying that, like, they didn’t recognize their own mom at first? Like, what changed to where? Now they’re looking at it at A different angle, and they realize it was their mom the whole time. They just. It seemed like if there was a statue of my. My mom, I don’t know if it would be like, you wouldn’t recognize it at first, and then later you’re like, oh, I guess that is my.

My mom. This would be young mom. Is that what you said? A young mom? No. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they’re seeing a statue of mom at age, what, like 18 or something, right? Yeah. Just that you might take a double take of that. Okay. I didn’t. I didn’t. I guess I didn’t realize that them being frozen in this scene was also in the past. I thought that it was like the mom and dad went away and when they went away, they got frozen in this new area and that’s where they’ve been all this time. No, I think those are the memories that water retained is what I got.

Like, that was not mom and dad. That was the memories that water retained being, you know, shown to us in a frozen form. Yeah. And like that. That Otto Holland is like a. Like a Akashic records. Right. Or like with you talking about how you channeled stuff like 10 years before that you didn’t fully understand. It’s like the. The region where there’s like everything is happening everywhere all at once. All time, all place, all memory. So this movie is kind of suggesting that water is the Akashic record, which actually is kind of a cool idea. Yeah.

The water horse and. Or the seahorse, I guess the better one. Like the water horn. I couldn’t look at this and not think of Lucifer the entire time. And I realized that probably wasn’t the intention. But I can’t separate the two. I can’t see a blue horse and not think Lucifer. That’s fair. Yeah, I’ll give you that one. I was thinking of the Tristar films opener with the. The horse running at you. What else I got? So here. Here’s the basic premise is that Elsa, if. If you ignore the first movie. I mean, basically, Elsa finds out she’s got magic power.

She can shoot ice. That’s. That’s the first movie, right. I don’t think that it really. Too much more happens in this movie. Castles. She’s getting whatever. She can make ice castles and people out of ice. Whatever. That’s. That’s the entire first movie summarized. Elsa discovers that she has ice powers. In the second movie, the discovery is that she’s got all the powers, but also her family and the Samis that her family basically like, exploited them, took over and made the magic. Like, they were trying to suppress magic because the magic was seen as a threat to the king.

And if the king had some kind of a decree, the magicians had a way to, like, not follow that decree subversively to a point where the king could not by force enforce things. So, like, the magicians had more power, so they had to be stomped out. And then we find out that her grandpa actually kills the top shaman of this, like, Sami tribe. And. And I feel like in this moment where she’s like, oh, my God, everything I’ve learned is a lie. And, like, I’m. I’m the oppressor here. Is this, like, how all white conservative girls feel after they go to a liberal college? After, like, the first semester where they’re just like, oh, my God, my grandparents were evil.

I hate my family. It seems like that’s what, like, Elsa’s going through in the. My brain always goes straight to Saved by the Bell. In the episode where Jesse just keeps apologizing to Lisa Turtle over and over for slavery for 22 minutes. Did she find out her grandparents owned. Yeah, yeah. They’re doing. They’re doing, like, family history. And Jesse discovers that her ancestors own slaves, and Lisa discovers that her family was slaves. So didn’t you feel like that as an American, like, once you learned about, like, the CIA? No. You know why, though? Because I also learned about something called the noble Savage myth.

And if you look at all those genealogical research where people are like, I want to find out if my family was owned by. A lot of the time, they find out that their parents, their grandparents were enslaved by the Native Americans and that the Native Americans were also enslaving each other. And even after the Civil War was over and the Emancipation Proclamation, the Native Americans didn’t necessarily follow that. So it. It just seems like more of, like, a. Humans in general are crappy, and humans enforce slavery more than a specific type of human. So I don’t know if I ever felt.

And also, I mean, my family is Slavic, where the word slave kind of comes from? So, no, I feel like I’m the oppressed. Like, I need reparations. I didn’t mean, like, the Native American aspect. I just meant, like. Like, when we went to, like, when we invaded Iraq. Iraq, after the 9 11. Stuff like, stuff like that that happened in our, like, our awareness lifetimes where we thought McDonald’s out of that deal. They get McDonald’s and Walmarts that they wouldn’t have had otherwise. Okay, fair. All Right. It’s not all a loss. Like, I guess, like, I kind of felt that way as an American.

Right. Like being like, oh, my God, we thought we were like, like during 9 11. Like, we thought we were like such the good people in the world. Right. And we had no idea, like, what our own government was doing over there overseas to, like, all the other countries. I feel like it’s like every decade you get to go through that. Like, there’s. There’s always some sort of international conflict that if you pay attention to it, it’s enough to be like, oh, I thought we were the good guys. Maybe we’re the baddies. Yeah, there’s always a late 90s end of history.

Everything’s great now. We just assumed everything was fine. And then. Then more things happened. I. I prefer the alternate reality from Sliders. I want to say season one, where Hillary Clinton became president in the late 90s and everything’s been great since then. There we go. Slider season one. That’s some good stuff. I need to get back to that sometime. So. So you find out that her parents, when they show up to this new land where these North Thundras are, that they convince them, hey, we’re going to gift you a dam. And the dam’s gonna, you know, give you all this extra power.

But really the dam is a meant to weaken their land and block their access off to the north. So now they don’t have access to as many resources or to talk to other tribes. But that also, by gifting them something, it’ll cause them all to come out in this big celebration. And that’s when the military strategy, they can figure out, here’s how many people they have, here’s their capabilities. So everything about this dam that her grandparents did was strategically to basically suppress these people and take over their land. And that was how they were able to even make their little town on the.

The edge of the. The water. That was how it started, was being able to kind of steal it from these. These North Flop people. I’m going to call them the Northrop Grummans. I think that’s what they call themselves. Did you notice too, that her grandpa’s name was King Runard? Like the runes and how there was like the runic symbols on all the little. He’s the one that’s against magic. He’s named after runes. Yeah. Well, again, with. With the dam in real life, this again. This is the Alta hydroelectric power station. It’s at. More than 1,000 protesters chained themselves to the site when work started again in 1981.

The police respond with large forces. At one point, 10% of all Norwegian police officers were stationed in Alta and quartered in a cruise ship. So this is something that really, I guess, sticks in the national consciousness in Norway and is reflected in this movie. Also. I really like that they, towards the end of this movie, they get into the whole mountains are giants theory, which is one of the fun ones. But like, like directly, like they don’t just kind of hint at it. It’s almost to the level of what was it? The never ending story that also had like the big mountain stone man.

Yeah, the rock guys. Yeah. And also I guess you could throw in return to Oz with Bulk where also had like the emerald stone creature. Yeah, if we’re going into the same Oz because. Because in, in every one of those instances, the stone. And I guess as a nod back to Snow White and the seven Dwarves, because the seven dwarves were supposed to be the ones that had control over elemental magic and that they were the mediums between extracting these precious minerals from the earth because they could go into the darkness and they would exchange these gems from the dark in exchange for like the light from human consciousness that was Snow White.

So in this one, again, these would be a stone giants. They’re like this dumb earth elemental, but once human, like Christ consciousness comes into the building, that’s when they’re actually inspired to like wake up and do things. I thought it’s interesting here. Also, the trolls show up in the first movie. In the first movie we talked about, are these trolls evil? Right. They’re singing and dancing. We’re having fun. This one, they do show up just very ominously. You know, the trolls do seem a lot. They just show up right at the beginning of the movie. And then we get to, you know, the, the giants and stuff later, right.

I’ll come out and say, I don’t trust trolls. No, in this movie, this seemed to just confirm what we talked about last time, where it’s like, yeah, these. I don’t trust these trolls. They seem very untrustworthy in this movie. I forget what did they even do in this movie? They like, they consult them for like one thing, right? Yeah, yeah. They show up near the beginning and basically like, you have to go north and fix all this. You know, like they’re a little more threatening. How is that. How do you not trust that? They’re telling them they need to like clear the karmic ancestral history.

Yeah, it just seemed like in the first movie they were like mind controlling Kristoff and Anna. So I think they were very. In the first movie they were incredibly manipulative. But also I think that in the first movie they were supposed to be the shaman. And then we find out that there are these human shamans. So now the trolls are almost like faking it. Superfluous. Yeah, like they are the, the dwarves. Right? They’re like the seven dwarves. And the trolls are the ones that raised Kristoff. Right. And Kristoff grew up to be kind of insane, right? Correct.

Yeah, everyone’s insane. The trauma programmed him from a baby. Yeah, it’s those long hard winters. They drive you nuts. They use the giants to end up breaking the dam. And then. Man, the very, the very last big scene on this one after they break the dam, it’s with Elsa riding her water horse, her seahorse, and she’s like trying to outrun the tidal wave of the dam coming on. And it zooms out. And I just, I mean, visually, I feel like this is up in the top 10, easily top 10 Disney scenes. And this is where I think they shined on whatever they were dialing up to 11, like, whatever improvements they made in the graphics and the, like the design department.

Like, this is the moment out of the entire movie because it brought, it brought me right back to like the first two or three Disney, like Cinderella and to Snow White and the seven dwarves. Just the amount of care that they put in it. And it also had that mid century modern look to it. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that’s sort of. Again, let’s, let’s find out the budget on this. But also, what happened to that water? Because she’s like outrunning it. And the water is about to splash and flood the town. And at the last second she turns around and she makes like a little ice barrier that redirects the water.

But even if she did that, isn’t the water level gonna rise and still. Yeah, the town’s gonna slowly flood now. Yeah, but that doesn’t happen. I don’t get it. I don’t understand. Like, where did the water go? Magic. She’s magic there. There we go. Yeah, sure. All right. By the way, for cultural imprint, I teaching on Saturday, I did note there’s a girl, a four year old girl that comes every week wearing an Elsa costume. And then two hours after that, a slightly older girl came wearing a. The green frozen fever Anna. So I have students just showing up in frozen costumes in the middle of April.

You know, I mean, the, the merchandising is top notch on this this entire, like, series. But. But no, no, seahorse leotards have not seen anyone show up in that. So with the big, like. Well, I mean. I mean, it’s not that kind of school, but I guarantee you that those are hot sellers. Because even. Even, like, the leotard that she wears at the end, it’s not even like a Disney created one. It’s like a leotard you’ve probably seen a million times before. The girls already buy and wear, but then they just, like, add a little cloak to it.

So now it’s a frozen leotard. They can. I mean, it almost feels like whoever designed the 3D version of this had the Chinese manufacturer in mind. Like, they knew exactly what the leotard was going to be. And they were like, oh, yeah, we’ll just, like, add this extra thing to it and we’ll print money. Well, you want. It’s like notoriously easy. Halloween costumes. You know you want to be Han Solo, get a vest. You know you want to do Marty McFly, you just got to get that life preserver vest, right? It’s all about vests, man. That’s how you do cheap Halloween costumes and leotards.

Where we want to go Now, I got. I got some deep notes for some of the theories that come up. Yeah, let’s crack it open. Let’s go deep. Okay, so the biggest one is water has memory. That’s the thing that they keep going back to over and over. And let me just say, for personal reasons, I’ve got a bias here. I’m triggered whenever someone brings up the Waterhouse memory thing for two reasons. One of them is the initial claim, which came out of the late 80s. It’s not even really a super old claim. And the other one, I think was.

Was late 90s. And it’s tangential to this. They don’t bring it up, but it’s the Japanese scientist. I’m blanking on his name. There you go. You just triggered me again, hearing it out loud. But the one where they would claim that if you, like, sat in front of water and you thought like, I love you, I love you, I love you. And then they freeze it. It turns into little frozen hearts. And if you sit there and you think like, I hate you, I hate you, then it turns into these weird, scary looking shard crystalline patterns.

That’s the. The general premise of that one. So whenever the water has memory, those things come up to mind, and I’m just like, this is pseudoscience. You’re lying to me. And, like, if you’re gonna, if you’re gonna drop an, like a cool conspiracy occult theory, make it one that hasn’t been fully debunked. But then again, maybe this is just like the skeptic angle. So the water has memory is based specifically on a. I believe it was a French scientist like Jacques Benaviste or something. And the. And this came out in a paper call or at a magazine called Nature.

And basically what he had claimed, it was an extension of homeopathy. So, like, homeopathy is the belief that you can take a drug or a substance and then dilute it so incredibly with water, but that at some point the dilution with water has this inverse reaction to where once you dilute it enough, the drug becomes more potent. And now you can. And I think this is basically what the military does with fluoride and water supply. But basically you could just take like a tiny little amount of the drug that you need, douse it with water. Now you got a thousand doses, and each of those thousand doses are even more potent.

So the premise was that they took this certain chemical that it was called basophil, and that it was an antagonist of another chemical that would act like an allergen. So long story short, imagine if you took like, a drop of coffee and you put it in a pool, and then you took a drop of that pool water that had a drop of coffee in it, and you put that in another pool. And then if you take a drop out of that pool, that somehow there will be enough caffeine in that drop that you would detect it.

And that was the, the premise. It wasn’t about caffeine and pools and coffee and stuff. It was about this chemical that had, like, another reaction to it. So essentially, he claimed that after they diluted it over and over and over again, when they took a sample of water out of this fully diluted sample set, that should have absolutely no basis for, like, what was originally in it. That even that newly diluted water was also reacting as if it had the original chemical in it. And. And this gets distorted by new age sort of interpretations of water has memory, because that was the underlying premise, was that somehow the crystalline structure of water had a memory about what was previously in it, and it was now still reacting as if it was still had that new, like, substance in it.

It wasn’t about, like, if you’re, you know, if, like your grandma, like, hugs you when you’re 12 and waters around, then, like, you can tap into the water and it brings your memory back or that you can refreeze water and. And it, like, reconstitutes itself in some sort of, like, historical way. In fact, I think there’s been actual scientific experiments on water since. And they measure it in like, nano ferrite seconds or something. It’s like the fastest thing to lose its memory. So, okay, I’m biased off, but, like, I get triggered when someone brings it up.

That’s the origin, if you’re interested in it. It was a. It was an issue of Nature magazine from 1988. That’s where all this water has memory stuff comes from. Of course. We’re like, what? We’re 70% water and we have memories? I don’t know. Don’t you start with me. There’s water. What’s that? I always wondered. I mean, water, you’re right, is also associated with forgetting too. Like when you. When you die and you go to the underworld and you have a choice to drink from. Like the rib, the river leaf. Is it leafy or leaf? That. That’s the river of forgetting that you have to drink out of so that you don’t remember your past lives.

But I’ve always wondered about, like, the. The phonetic resonance between amniotic fluid and amnesia. Like, if we’re. When we’re just dating, if we’re like our minds are being wiped and reprogrammed in our mother’s waters. Well, just. See, I would say that’s way different than just normal water, though. Like amniotic fluid. Probably. You could sell me more that that has some sort of weird occult epigenetic memory, because that would kind of be its biological principle, but for, like, all water to have all. If water has memory and. And water goes through all of us. They even mentioned in this movie that by the time you drink water, it’s already been through four or five other people or animals.

And then I think Sven kind of like starts gagging. He’s like, what. He starts, like, throwing water up because of the premise, but that’s the concept. But if. If water went through five people and then it goes out into the ocean, it can get. Gets combined with everyone else’s memories, then wouldn’t we just all. It would be like Pluribus sort of TV show where everyone has everyone else’s memories. If water were all around. I’m thinking a little bit just of other water references we’ve come across recently where we did Ralph Breaks the Internet, where the. For the princesses to overcome their problems, they need to, you know, look into a.

Into special water and sing A song of longing. Right. Well, let me also go like, even though I’m a skeptic, here’s some reasons to believe water maybe does hold memory. In 2001, the. I found this old article, but the Department of defense, specifically the U.S. army Medical Research and Material Command, they went to an institute called the, the Samueli Institute of Research, and they basically commissioned them to find out if water could store memory along with a whole bunch of other. The quote was that they were. This was from a 2012 explore article by a different author of the 2001 defense article, but it mentions that the military was trying to identify acupuncture, yoga, homeopathy and mind body techniques.

And that’s why they contracted the Samueli Institute, because they were basically doing this in the public for like two or three decades where they were trying to like research and the army so that they wouldn’t be called out for being like, hey, how come you’re wasting money on yoga? They called it the Integrative Medicine Initiative. So if you go and do some research between 2001 and 2012 for DoD Integrative Medicine, you’ll see the military throwing all kinds of money at stuff like does water. Water have memory? And they, they even specifically cite that 1988 article of the, the guy that had done it, Jacques, whatever his name was.

It’s all the Minute goat sort of thing, right? And, and fun fact that right after they published it in 1988, Nature article, even as it was being put together by the editor, they, they put it out in the magazine. But they had like this, this like footnote that they normally do not include in any of their article. The only other time they included this footnote was when they covered Yuri Geller. So they, they kind of equated this Waterhouse memory to Yuri Geller. And they mentioned in there that they were going to send independent scientists and they did.

They sent James Maddox to work for Nature magazine and also James Randy. I don’t know if you know about the Randy Challenge, but anytime, and I want to say like the 70s to the 80s, if anyone claims to have some kind of paranormal or supernatural ability, they would call up James Randi and James Randy would give him the Randy Challenge. And the Randy Challenge was that if you can actually reproduce esp, remote viewing, telekinesis, any of these things in a supervised, scientifically controlled setting, that you’d win like a million dollars or something. I believe to date, no one’s ever passed the Randy Challenge.

It’s also rife with all sorts of you know, the CIA is doing it to suppress, you know, supernatural powers or whatever. But. But it’s a fun fact, though, that James Randy was personally involved with debunking this Water has memory theory in the 80s, huh? And then there’s. There was a news program on Channel 4. I’m. I’m just gonna make up a date. I think it was like, September 3rd, 13th, or September 3rd of 1988, where they all get together on a round table, Channel 4 video interview, and they sort of like, debate this out amongst all of them.

I tried finding it sounds fascinating, but I wasn’t able to. I found the episode before it. I found the one after it, and I even found someone uploaded all of the commercials from that episode as a super cut, but not the episode itself, which was kind of disappointing. Keeping that one under hood, I guess. Like, you always surprised me, Thomas, that you’re such a skeptic, because you’re like, you live in this world of, like, occult and ritual and magic or like, the Golden Bough. Did you finish the Golden Bow yet? I got. I’m on book four, but I think it’s like 12 books or something.

Okay. It’s not a fast read either. It is a very slow read because I don’t even know every other word that he uses. And then I have to, like, look that word up and then see where that word came from. It’s. It is not for a normal person to read. I don’t think we’ll get there, like, a. A super episode on it. Okay. I’m. It’ll take me, like, another year to even read the, like, abridged version. Okay. The. The abridged isn’t bad. The abridged one, though, it reads more like an encyclopedia slash reference book. So you don’t, like.

It’s actually kind of like a bunch of bullet points. These people did this, and these people did this, and it was similar to this. You don’t get the why and you don’t get, like, the rich detail that he puts into the unabridged one. No one in the world really has time to sit down and reach the unabridged golden bow, except for, hopefully us. Okay, well, damn it. Because I couldn’t read the abridge when it was taking me so long. I had, like, I had a goal this year to read six books, and we got to, like, April, and I had only gotten, like, a third of the way through Golden Bough.

Forget it. Like, I gotta start reading other books. I highly recommend, if you have it in you, to just skip the unabridged and go right for the abridged. And even if you only get through book one, getting through all of the unabridged, book one and Golden Bough is better than getting through the entire abridged version of everything, because it’s just. You get way more context than it, I think. Okay. Okay, good to know. Thank you. And I have, I feel like my skepticism, hopefully it just emphasizes the crazy things I do believe in. I hope it, like gives them even more merit because it’s like, oh, this guy doesn’t just believe anything.

So if I tell you that I. That I believe that the CIA was legitimately kidnapping witch doctors and trying to learn black magic, like that I believe. And I think that’s crazy and outlandish, but I think that that’s. That’s more believable than. Than water has memory. It seemed like a good idea at the time. Okay, here’s the next one. This is the mountains are giants and what a hole this is. So I’ve got, I’ve got an abridged version of the backstory here because somewhere around 2016 or so, the tartarian theories started to gain like a lot of traction.

And the tartarian theories, they kind of like swallow a pole. All these other previous theories that were like slowly building. So you’ve got the tartarian tangent, which is based on, I think the very first premise is basically the. The Cardiff Giant hoax, which was in the late 1800s. And this is when the newspapers claimed they found this like ten foot man that was buried in New York. And even at that point, it became like America’s biggest roadside attraction. And later the biggest archeological hoax, I think, on the books, if you believe what the Rockefeller foundation tells you.

So, but, but the Cardiff Giant, even when that was discovered, people were crawling out of the woodwork like, oh, this is Genesis. This is the book of. These are the Nephilim, like that whole story about ancient people are real. And the fallen angels and all of this, like, you know, Goliath, this is all real. That started in a big way with Cardiff Giant. And then you’ve got this combined with the pareidolia, which is like the annoying thing that people always bring up, like, oh, you see faces everywhere. It’s part of just our evolution and our, like our self preservation out in nature.

To see a face. There’s a specific name for it when you see it in rocks, like we do in Frozen 2 called Mime to Lith, I believe. And that’s when you specifically see a face in a formation of Rock or earth or, or anything that looks like a body, an animal, a face, some kind of recognizable object. Then you’ve got a guy named Roger Spur. And I forgive you if you’ve never heard of Roger Spur. But he, he had this theory about things called mud fossils. And basically a mud fossil is when you see a formation that is, that looks like a combination of something petrified, but like a rib cage or a femur or like a skull.

So if you ever see those pictures that get, float around like tick tock, where it’s like this mountain was once a person and it looks like you know, someone like laying back. A lot of that came from a very specific dude named Roger Spur. And he, he’s got like a life body of work. Like he spent his entire life documenting all this different stuff. So he’s one of the originators. And this is fairly modern. This is like within our lifetimes that he’s doing this. Okay, then you’ve got these two Russians. I’ll make this quick, but the Russian makes sense because we’re frozen.

Two is like Siberian Russian folklore. So you’ve got Anatoly Fomenko, who is this mathematician that claims something called the New chronology. And the Russian state loved this. He basically said that anything that happened before 80 a thousand is all fabricated. It was all lies. If you go to like modern like old world theories, some people will be like, anything before 1940 is, is all fake and all lies. Right? It’s like, it’s a shifting thing. But that premise of all of history is lies. You can pinpoint that this Anatoly flamenco guy and this was like in the 1980s or something, but he basically said the 14th to the 17th century was completely manipulated in history books and that really the Russians ran things and it was this Tartarian empire.

So that’s like, that’s half of the, the ingredients and then the other half is the guy named Levashov. And he’s the one that started with the mud flood theories and about world architecture. So you’ve got all of these old mountains are, are like laser beamed melted buildings from ancestors or, and, or they’re these like creatures that were, you know, swept away in a mud flood or like petrified. And then those, both of those concepts get swallowed up under this Tartarian theory. So anyways, whenever the like mountains are people come up and then Tartaria comes up. It’s interesting to know like the three or four different sources that all come to a head.

And now people just say Tartaria and it’s like, you know, it’s like saying Arista, the Aristocats or the Aristocrats, like, you know, all the things that go into it just by hearing the word. We’ll just start pushing arendelle as tartaria. That’ll be. That’ll be our evolved theory here. I mean it kind of is. All right, are you ready for my third one? Yeah, let’s go. This is the reindeer P that you’re been so excited about, Matt. I am excited. I wonder. So first of all, like I mentioned that the Sami people have been designated at some point of like they’re the ones that do all of this because they were reindeer herders.

If you go on YouTube now you can search Sami people and it’s just them like herding reindeer and doing like shaman stuff. But there was. It was specifically a different group of Siberian shamans called the Koryaks. And they were written about in the 18th century, in like the late 1700s. This guy, Philip Johann Stromberg, he wrote about that the poor shaman were holding wooden bowls to capture each other’s urine which they would then fight over and drink in order to get drunk because it had a mushroom in it. So this, this is the origin of the Siberian shaman are drinking pee to get high from the Amanita Mascaria.

It actually came from them drinking each other’s pee. It wasn’t like they saw a reindeer pee. And then. Because that’s the story that you’ll end up reading. I think a lot of this comes from Robert Gordon Watson’s work, which fun fact, he was absolutely MK ultra CIA. He was also VP of Finance for JP Morgan Jr. But anyways, Robert Gordon Watson writes about this and I like his toned down version that gets repeated elsewhere is that the Sami would watch the reindeer act weird. Like like they thought they could fly, right? And that was like the whole concept of Santa has the flying reindeer, but that the reindeer would eat these mushrooms and start acting weird and then they would pee in the snow and then another reindeer would come and eat the pee in the snow, which does happen.

Reindeer are known to eat urine in the snow. But that when the reindeer would eat the pee of a reindeer that had eaten mushrooms, that that second reindeer would also start acting weird. So they put two and two together. They’re like, oh, if I eat the yellow snow then I can actually trip. And it had pre processed the toxins out because it goes through the reindeer’s kidneys or whatever. Well anyways, that is as gross as that sounds like, oh, the shaman Were eating reindeer pee to get high. It’s actually grosser than that. They were peeing into bowls and then, like, fighting over who got the drink each other’s pee in order to get high.

So, yeah, that sounds like a terrible frat party. I remember, like, I don’t know, like 20 something years ago. There’s the news. Kept reporting on, like, Russian, like, hostage invasions or something, like, where people are being held hostage. Like, I remember watching a documentary of a school where maybe it was like Muslim extremists had, like, taken over a Russian school on the first day, and all the parents were huddled together and like, they were fighting over each other’s pee too, because they were so thirsty that they were, like, fighting over who could drink whose pee. It’s like Red Dawn 3.

Yeah. Water World. That’s Costner. Water World meets Red Dawn. Yeah. I’ve just had going through my head the whole time, the south park episode where Stan’s dad keeps having a cat piss in his face to get high. Well, that’s toxoplat. That wasn’t. That’s not pissed, though. I think that’s. That’s poop. Maybe it was. No, I think it was cat. It was a cat. Okay. It’s been a while. I haven’t watched any south park in a while. I think technically, if you want to get high up memory thing, right? Like drinking, getting high off reindeer pee or shaman pee.

Isn’t that a little bit like a water husband? I guess you’re technically getting high off the mushroom. It’s just been filtered, I guess. I mean, but yeah, I don’t think there’s any reports of that. If I were to drink your pee, then I get your memories. No, you haven’t tried. Maybe. Yeah. They don’t want us to know. This is the information that the powers that be trying to suppress from us. They’ve. They’ve spent all of our lives telling us it’s. It’s unacceptable to drink each other’s pee when really that’s the. The key to enlightenment, I guess.

Yeah. There’s got to be something to the. There’s got to be some, like, magical properties to water. Like, why do they always put a reflection pool outside all the memorials? I mean, you. I could argue that that has an occult aspect to it 100%, especially when it’s always under, like a big obelisk, right. That’s kind of representing as above, so below. But I mean, I mean, I guess I could make a pretty decent argument that water is magic because it literally is A requirement for life. And I guess life itself would be magic. It’s just so ubiquitous that.

No, it’s not novel anymore. It’s not novel. I guess the idea. Does it have specific memories? Obviously, it’s extremely important to life, but. And just. And just to throw my skeptic feather in my skeptic hat, too. What was the guy. The. The Japanese guy? Miyamoto or whatever? Yeah. Is that really his name? Miyamoto? So that one. I don’t know if you’ve ever looked into this study that. I feel like I have to bring this up every time his name is mentioned. But the. The way that that study was conducted is that they had a whole bunch of people doing that.

Like, you know, the thoughts and repeating mantras or whatever. And then they analyzed the frozen water, but they didn’t necessarily label. They weren’t like, okay, this lady was thinking love in front of this sample, and this other person was thinking hate in front of this sample. They just had people make thoughts. Then they froze the water, and then someone else went through, and they were like, oh, that one looks kind of like a heart. I bet that was from the lady that was thinking love. Oh, this one looks scary. I bet that one was from the guy that was thinking, hey.

They didn’t actually correlate that the. The thoughts of love resulted in, like, the heart shape. They just kind of, like, retrofitted which ones made the most sense to each one. And that’s never been repeated because I remember when I first saw that, it was. My first thought was like, does that mean water understands English? You know what I mean? Like, it would have to know the word love in order to understand that they were saying love. Or it could understand, like, an emotion. But if that’s the case, you could make, like, prison cells out of ice and then determine if someone was guilty or innocent based on the crystalline structure of the ice that were in their cell.

Like, it just. It just felt like it would open up the entire world of science and flip things on its head. And usually when I come across one of those things, I believe it, and then I look into it, and then I feel like an idiot for believing it. And that’s why I have a chip on my shoulder about it. Like, it tricked me. It reminded me of the time that I thought the Guess who game, the pieces actually talked back to you. And now I hate that game forever for lying to me. And it’s that, like, the same trigger.

Okay, I have that with Santa because I believed in Santa until I found out that he wasn’t real. And I had what I went like atheist at 10 years old because of Santa. So I had. I had a big chip on my shoulder for a long time. Like I did not want to get fooled. And then I went on to get fooled, like for the 30 years. I wonder if there’s a difference between water having memory, though, and us putting intentionality into something. I mean, think about like, you know, people like for weed or whatever, like, you know, big corporate factory versus someone who hand grew it or, you know, paid attention to it.

I mean, that’s also amount of attention paid, but, you know. Yeah, or like speaking to. Speaking to plants. How they. How they thrive better when you talk to them. Yeah. So there might be an intentionality thing that certainly works, which is, you know, it’s in the realm, but that’s a little different than water has memory. Right. When this also expands into a field, I think it’s called psychometry. And psychometry is that physical matter stores memory. Like, for example, people will say that they can go into a room and if there was like a murder in the room, they get like a feeling from it.

Or that animals like cats can go into a room and they can detect like something evil happened. That’s based on this pseudoscience called psychometry, that basically it’s the same way that you would record a vinyl record or like the acetate master, where you’ve got like the needle and then as sound or vibrations happen, it grinds that. It kind of like writes. It etches it in stone almost. And that technically, if I were to murder someone right now, the walls in this room would record that. And then if you had technology that was sensitive enough or, you know, like some Project Monarch kid that had like a sensitive esp, that they could detect everything that happened because all the physical matter around us is constantly recording us.

Like a big Big Brother sort of thing. This is square circle. I learned about that concept from an X Men comic. It came in X Men. There’s also a very popular episode of Supernatural where this happens as well. But it’s. I think it’s a pretty. This. This might even predate the concept of water has memory. Is this like psychometry aspect? Oh, I’m sure it does. The X Men comic was like 1988 or something, so. Well, so then, yeah, that. That takes it back to the Akashic records and at the Holland. See, I believe that I’m. I could be sold on Akashic records, but the Akashic records almost feels like something that’s not bound by physics.

Like, you don’t need physical matter for. In fact, it’s like the opposite. Like, you. You can’t have physical matter for the Akashic records to exist because it exists in, like, some ethereal realm, like quantum computing or something, you know? Yeah. Well, so did you ever. Did you. Do you remember that movie 21 grams? Yeah. Which always. The amount of weight that the body loses when the soul escapes or something, which was also never reproduced in a controlled environment. Kind of hard to test that, but yeah. That theory was that, like, the soul is made of, like, structured water.

Is that what it’s called? Or that it had some sort of a qualitative amount of substance that you could measure and that. I think it was supposed to be some kind of, like, a vapor that would be released. Like. Like your final breath literally had vapor in it. That. That weighed 21 grams. And once that was gone, then you were gone. Yeah. Maybe that’ll be Frozen three as the. Elsa dies and they weigh her and she loses 21 grams. Well, I mean, that was another aspect of this movie. Right. There was, like, kind of a death and rebirth scene for both of them.

There was, like, the descent, the death, the dark night, the death, and then the resurrection of them both also. So, yeah, I mean, like, Matt was mentioning the. Olaf dies because Elsa loses her magic. She gets so. Even though she’s the ice Queen, she gets so cold that her body freezes and Olaf dies. Yeah, I thought the cold didn’t bother. Anyway, and he. And he comes back at the end, like everything was okay, which was very anticlimactic because it was kind of like, you know that the thing that they’re selling the stuffed animals of is going to survive.

They’re not going to kill off the sidekick, because that’s the Disney proxy. Right. Olaf is the Disney proxy sidekick. One of my favorite clips recently. Either of you see the Disneyland Paris Olaf animatronic fail clip? No. They have a robot Olaf at Disneyland Paris now. So it shows Olaf. Like, I think he’s talking in French, like, la, la, la. And as he’s talking, just starts to fall backwards, and then his nose falls off and a woman screams. It’s great. Although when he dies in this. Or, you know, temporarily dies, it looks kind of like video. Okay.

His nose falls off here, too. Yeah. All right. One. I got a. I got a visual for this one. So if you’re listening, just imagine what. What we’re describing here. I’m probably listening. Am I completely off base that when Elsa starts Going through this ice cave. It is such a vaginal ice cave. Like I couldn’t not see this as a big cold vagina that she’s finding her way into it. Like feminine mysteries movie it is. And you know what she finds inside this giant ice vagina on the very inside her dad and her grandpa. Which feels like some weird like daddy issues going on.

But anyways, I mean, is it, am I just being crass or like, are. Is this ice cave like the most vaginal looking ice cave you’ve ever seen? Assumed you’re about to say that right before you said it, so I guess so. Okay. Okay. All caves are vaginas. That’s what they’re like. That’s what they were. Well, okay, fair enough. But sometimes the entrance to a cave can be like square or large or wide. In every one of these there’s like this weird like folded geometry to where like. See how like this one even has lips around the outside of it, but they all have the same like.

Like this one at the end almost likes hooded. Like. How does ice form these like drapery looking hoods on the outside of it? So anyways. Well, they say. Don’t they say that like matter itself is frozen light? I. I can get behind that. Yeah, sure. That everything’s essential. I mean it’s a fringe. But that everything’s essentially like holographic universe. Yeah. Like the term matrix means womb, which is why I think all the, all the people on the world stage are always doing their vagina hand symbol. The, you know, whatever the, like every time that they’re Elon and Trump and.

Yeah, like the matrix means womb. Do you ever do one of these things? Yes, I usually go for this one because kids in Japan have trouble doing this for some reason. So if I do it the next five minutes or soon, they’re like trying to do it even when I’ve moved on to a different topic. I feel like you get in trouble if you started doing this one with them. More things that the listeners cannot see. Dumb things to do with your hands. We were doing magical freemason symbols. Yes, yes, yes. Well, yeah, sure. Anything else you want to throw out? I got out my breeding.

I got out. Yeah, yeah. I was not expecting in Frozen 2 to be able to bring up water as memory and frozen pee and ice vaginas and Tartaria and mountain men. So that was, it was kind of interesting that they act like they’re the ones that did all this. Maybe not the, the ice caves, but, but all the other stuff they’re they’re the ones that put forward this, like water has memory, which, I mean, if you’re in the new age occult conspiracy world long enough, that one comes up like every other week, it seems like. And it is all the way back to the subconscious and the frozen head and the Freud’s.

Is it. Was it Freud’s iceberg? Yeah. Yeah. This is a movie everybody saw, though I usually throw out the numbers at 1.150 budget. $1.5 billion. Holy God. Okay. And. And I assume those ones are typically box office numbers that you’re giving us. Yeah. And not all the ancillary toys and dolls and that’s Halloween costumes. The kids coming in just wearing. It’s all. It’s still Frozen one. Stuff like. Like Frozen Fever. I saw more Frozen Fever merch after that came out than. Than I’ve seen a Frozen two. So. What is Frozen feet? You keep saying Frozen Fever.

I don’t know. It was a 15 or so minute short that came out a year after the original Frozen because Disney was like, oh my God, we have to make something else Frozen. Right. Alchemy. Huh? Fire and I. Yep. And then that one, they have new costumes. They have green spring costumes. So they could sell Anna and Elsa in these green spring costumes for a few years and. And those still show up. But Frozen two, I think, again, haven’t seen anyone running around with a horse and leotard, so. Well, again, I mean, if. If you go back to the OG Disney movies, right? I mean, my favorite one to always bring up, of course, is Snow White, but like Pinocchio, Cinderella, all those really early ones, even Bambi, where they find the Disney proxy, which is where your parents die or get kidnapped, which is what Frozen is based on as they lose both of their parents.

That’s a Disney proxy. And it’s to introduce the trauma of losing your guardian and then replacing it with a thing that you’re going to sell them. And in Frozen 1, it’s Olaf, and in Frozen 2 it’s Olaf. Plus all the cool water horse and the leotards and all that stuff. But it’s. It’s crazy to compare the. The early Disney movies. The merchandising was like. If it was even. There was an afterthought. But there’s a good chance they didn’t even have merchandising. They didn’t have like Snow White outfits and things like pre planned for the launch. No, not at all.

In fact, that started with Planet of the Apes and then Star wars weaponized that. And now it’s like everything wants to do. Yeah. Star wars might be, like, one of the big catalysts where it’s like, oh, we need to think about merchandising as we’re making the movie. Well, now you’ve got, in my opinion, the same level of a cult insight and, like, esoteric knowledge in Frozen, but they’re putting merchandising ahead of that. And then they’re like, like, how can we sell merchandise and then bake in all this, like, occultism stuff so that it feels deeper. It almost the same way that we would criticize Evangelion, where it’s like they’re just, like, trying to sell toys and robots and then be like, oh, and there’s some esoteric knowledge in here.

It feels a little bit like that, but they’re doing it right because it’s Disney. So, like, they’ve. They’ve got the same occultism that they had in Snow White, but they’ve got all the merchandising knowledge that they’ve gained over the last century. And you can kind of see it, like, coming to a head with Frozen two. Rant over. Sure. Any other big points you all want to throw out before we wind this guy down this ice, before we melt this ice there cunningly. Okay, well, I guess we’ll. We’ll close it down for today. Anna could tell people what you’re up to and where to find your stuff.

You could find me on X every now and then. Yeah, it’s Anna Nicole. Wordsmith is my handle, and we’ll do the links and all that stuff so you don’t have to spell it out. You can just click on the link. Thank you. What’s going on your world? I’ve got a whole bunch of different projects, as always, that I’m always working on, but hopefully Chaos Twins will be launching soon. But you can go to chaostwins.com that’s the comic that I’ve been working on with Sam Tripoli all ages about, like, Cryptids and stuff. As soon as it launches, we’re going to have a whole bunch of, like, really cool perks for the very first people that back it.

So if you go to chaostwins.com you can sign up to be notified for when it launches. And then I’ve also got. I think the next little chick track that I’ve been working on is called the Titanic, and that’s got icebergs and people running into ice and water has memory, although it’s very dark memories when it comes to Titanic because it was 1500 people that were sacrificed by JP Morgan. Yeah. I just watched a video about the actual construction of the Titanic. Like where the first classrooms were, where the third classrooms were, you know, those. It’s kind of fascinating.

Well, what’s fascinating is the, the Titanic and the Olympic, which was the sister ship. They were both in the exact same place in Belfast for I think like, like five to seven days. Normally the ship turnaround would be two days. Both of those boats were in the same place for five days and they kept swapping the positions of them over and over again. So like the theory is that JP Morgan was making them look identical so that he could sink the Titanic. Oh yeah. I even heard like the Olympic like having like doing the switch roof physically, you know, like actually switching like the, the dishes that said Titanic to the other boat, you know.

Well here, well here’s the fun thing is that the dishes didn’t say Titanic. The dishes said White Star Line. Only the menu, the printed menus said the Titanic. And it was way easier to swap. Less work for the switch roof. Yeah. In fact, the only evidence they really have that it was the Titanic and not the Olympic that they found at the bottom of the ocean is that the num. The numbers, I think it was like 400 was supposed to be the Olympic and 401 was the Titanic. And when they, they started pulling apart like cabinets and furniture, a bunch of them had 401 on the back and not 400.

And that’s the one thing that they’re like, see, there’s proof that it’s definitely the Titanic and it definitely is not the Olympic. And you might think, well this will be real easy. Let’s just actually go and take the Olympic and compare it to what we know about the Titanic. Except the Olympic was melted down in the 30s, I believe, which was about 50 years before the Titanic was discovered. So you’ll never know. Oh yeah, on my end head for. I do more podcasting films and filth. The first five minutes of this where I sound really confused is because that podcast was finishing our episode on Steel.

So if you want to, you know, see, have some non linear podcast listening, you can, you can get that episode when it comes out. That’s the, the, the weird. It’s a Superman movie with Shaquille o’. Neill. So kind of fun. Actually recommend. It was fun. I think you should watch Steel. It was good. Let me slip in one other plug here too that you can check out more of me and Anna Nicole Word Smith, sometimes on Sync Tank, which sometimes we do on Sundays. Sometimes we just do impromptu on other days. But check us out if we’re.

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