The Good Dinosaur is the MOST PSYCHEDELIC (and Violent) Disney Movie since Dumbo

➡ In this podcast, the hosts discuss the Disney movie “The Good Dinosaur”. They talk about the original concept of the movie, which was supposed to be about dinosaurs existing in the modern world, and how it changed to dinosaurs living alongside humans in caveman times. They also discuss the criticism the movie received for its incorrect timeline and its simplistic storyline, which they believe only appeals to children. Lastly, they compare “The Good Dinosaur” to other animated movies like “We’re Back: A Dinosaur Story” and “Ice Age”.
➡ The text discusses a movie about a dinosaur who loses his father and gets lost, trying to prove himself. The dinosaur, named Arlo, is portrayed as a child-like character who struggles to contribute to his family. The movie’s animation style contrasts cartoonish characters with photorealistic backgrounds, which some find jarring. The text also mentions a theory about the high detail in the movie’s rendering possibly being due to a government contract.
➡ The text discusses a roller coaster that’s changing its theme from Aerosmith to the Muppets, and the speaker doesn’t mind the change. They also talk about a movie where a dinosaur named Arlo and a human child named Spot go on an adventure. The movie includes a scene where Arlo and Spot eat some plants that cause them to hallucinate, which the speaker finds out of place for a children’s movie. The speaker also mentions that the movie has a complex plot with multiple storylines intersecting.
➡ The text discusses a movie featuring a dinosaur and a kid, where nature is the main antagonist. The movie includes elements of Western and Jurassic Park, with the characters facing challenges like waterfalls and rapids. The text also mentions the movie’s violence and references to death, which are unusual for a Disney film. Despite the dangers and hardships, the dinosaur eventually finds his way home and the kid finds his own family, but the story acknowledges that all dinosaurs eventually die.
➡ The speaker discusses a movie where a dinosaur gets lost, finds a lost human, and eventually sends the human to be with other humans before returning home. The speaker criticizes the movie for its lack of depth and engagement, despite the significant resources invested in its production. They also analyze the movie using the Arne Thompson Uther Index, a tool for cataloging major folklore motifs and themes, and identify it as a hero’s journey with a “wild man as a helper” theme.
➡ The text discusses various motifs in Disney movies, such as the helpful animal companion, landscape as a moral trial ground, and the loss of a parent as a catalyst for growth. It also mentions the hero’s journey and how Disney characters rarely refuse the call to adventure. The text also compares the character Spot from “The Good Dinosaur” to the ancient Babylonian character Enkidu, both representing the original wild man. Lastly, it discusses changes in the voice cast during the production of “The Good Dinosaur”.
➡ The text is a casual conversation about various topics, including dinosaurs, childhood dreams, Muppets, and Disney movies. The speaker shares their thoughts on the relevance of dinosaurs, their childhood aspirations influenced by characters like Kermit the Frog, and their critique of Disney’s ‘The Good Dinosaur’. They also discuss the challenges of replacing original voice actors in shows like the Muppets and their opinions on other Disney productions.
➡ The text discusses the emotional impact of movies, particularly how music and visuals can manipulate viewers’ feelings. It mentions a movie review podcast and the emotional response to a scene from a Fast and Furious movie. The text also critiques the movie “The Good Dinosaur,” calling it boring and manipulative. Lastly, it promotes a podcast about occult references in an anime series and encourages buying merchandise from Paranoid American.
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This is Matt here. Over there, it’s a paranoid American. How’s your tromping around? We’re going to be ripping flesh. We’re going to be eating things live on screen. Things are going to be dying. This is going to be the most violent Disney movie, I think, to date animated. So you’re, you’re thinking velociraptors then? I mean, this is the closest we’ve got. This is the closest we’ve got to violence in a lot of Disney movies that I can remember seeing. And we’re damn near a century deep at this point. Yeah, I guess we aren’t. Well, Pixar hasn’t really done it either.

Weirdly, the. The reviews for the Good Dinosaur and thing kind of pointed out how this was the Pixar movie most aimed at children at the time. Because if you think about it, all the others have, you know, more for mom and dad, not the cars. Whoever said that wasn’t thinking about cars. But I mean, this is also one of the first times that kids are going to be introduced to a few other new concepts too. So I don’t know, I don’t know if this one is as kid friendly, but in terms of the storyline, it’s basically only going to hold the attention of kids.

Yeah, I guess that’s the simplicity of. Is considered to be like Pixar’s first. Not major flop, but first flop. It’s, you know, it’s. It’s one of those things where it’s like, why are we even talking about these amounts of money there? That’s insane. Where we have. Why do we remake Ice Age for more money? Yeah, yeah. Like, let’s see, this one has 175 to 200 million, where you’re like, what? Huh? And then the box office is just 332 million, which once you consider all the marketing and stuff, isn’t that great for this one. So this is Pixar.

It’s for, you know, people were waiting for Pixar finally walk into the wall or something. I guess maybe, maybe Cars did it creatively because I don’t know, is it still better in cars too? Cars 2 had more to look at. Like fun stuff, I think. So I, I did a little bit of a deep dive on the story that I don’t usually do. I usually leave it up to you, but there was one that I found about this movie that one of the biggest criticisms is because when it first was being promoted before, it went through a million different hands.

Because it’s, you know, it has to at this point of those. Before it goes through all those different hands. The very first pitch was what if dinosaurs still existed right now today in the modern world? And that’s what the good dinosaur was supposed to be about. And somewhere along the path, just for reasons tm, it got occluded and then that ends up just getting cut out. But then what they kept wanting though was that, okay, well, what if dinosaurs lived until Homo sapiens started to become dominant? Because that’s like a more intricate, like specific thing that if you are.

There’s a lot of teachers, apparently they hate this movie because it teaches the incorrect timeline, but that’s because they don’t know the original plot of the movie was what if dinosaurs lived alongside humans? And it’s just that it started out with modern day and then they scaled it back to like caveman times, which is still wrong. It’s still fantastical if you believe in the Rockefeller education system. Right. But that’s one of the reasons that it got such bad ratings and also maybe why it feels juveniles that they started someplace and they ended up completely different. You could, I mean, it’s also just the, the concept.

They do say the concept in the first 30 seconds. It’s just, you know, it’s not a particularly great concept. It’s kind of like, yeah, I’ve been doing all the Planet of the Ape stuff recently for podcasts and such. And that has the issue where, you know, except for the live action TV show, humans can’t talk. So you, you have whatever. You have your astronauts who can talk maybe to each other. If you have more than a Charlton Heston and that, then that’s all apes up and down, which is fine. That’s why people like that series. You get to put a bunch of people in monkey suits.

But yeah, you. The making humans mute and, and dumb and, and dumb, you know, in their head as well. Doesn’t make for very good cinema on its own. I think that’s my favorite part of the movie, to be honest, is how the human is just basically a dog. I. I kind of like that part, although it also leans way deeper now. Like, here’s the pendulum where Walt starts Disney and all the Disney stories are always about human intellect and like the human. Human consciousness being bestowed on other inanimate things or just on other animals. Right. And everyone appreciates it.

Now the pendulum has swung all the way to the other side to where now humans are stupid dogs and stupid animals. And that it’s really nature that has all the knowledge and it’s not humans. I’m not saying like one is right or the other. What. I’m definitely saying that these are on opposite sides of that scale in. In a very specific way. The first hand this movie was in is Bob Peterson, who he co directed up. He. He did the voice for Roz. For Monsters, both monsters movies. So that’s kind of fun. You got like that.

Of course, he’s the guy that got booted off of this there. Like you can’t figure out the third act. I’m like, well, what. Maybe that. You know, if you have third act issues, you probably have first act issues. I think that’s what Billy Wilder said. So he has a quote here. It’s time to do a movie where you get to know the dinosaur. And it’s really like to be a dinosaur and to be with a dinosaur. I’m like, nobody ever asked for that. I want the dinosaur go. And maybe it’s a T. Rex chasing the car like in Jurassic Park.

That’s great. That’s what I want. I don’t care what the dinosaur thinks in that case. And plus, even. Even the original premise of this movie already existed. There was. And I don’t think it was Don Bluth, I can’t remember who made it. We’re Back. A dinosaur story. There you go. We’re back. Yeah. And that apple. You’re in the middle of a sentence earlier. Well, that was. That was this. That’s the same original premise. Yeah. Was that dinosaurs made it to the modern times. And I wonder if someone at some point was just like, guys, are we remaking? We’re Back? And then maybe they just shifted focus a little bit and they said, okay, let’s remake Ice Age instead of remaking We’re Back.

Well, as discussed previously, they were perfectly fine remaking the Brave Little Toaster. And they did Toy Story, weren’t they? Oh, technically, that was under the umbrella in a Tangential way. Right. If remaking Ice Age is direct competition at this point, just I, I. We’re back. A Dinosaur story is animation from Amblin. So it’s, you know, Steve. Presented by Steven Spielberg, though I don’t see his actual name attached to the credits here. Music by James Horner. Huh. It looks like this one’s almost like. Like a weird outlier. Like, not even. Yeah. Steven Spielberg’s Amblamation studio. There’s one that.

What did they make? Geez. Okay. Speaking of, like, maybe an episode for Cartoon Cabal we’ll have to do. We’re back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Amblimation, which. It kind of feels nasty when you say it out loud. All it made is the second American Tale movie, Fievel Goes West. We’re back. A dinosaur story and something called Balto. And that’s it. Is Balto a dog? Oh, the dog. He’s a wolf. When you see the poster, you’ll be. Oh, yeah, I see. I remember that. Although I thought he’s gonna be a tan dog and he’s like a black and white wolf or something, so.

Sounds familiar. Yeah, yeah, yeah. One of those things that you, you see in the poster, it never saw, like, like Carrison Ford with his dog for his Call the Wild movie. Right. No one ever saw that. But everyone saw Harrison and his dog until now. Right. Anyway, this one, it. It is the second time I saw it. This is one where we put it on, you know, when it was available on home video in the house. I watched it once, and we never watched it again or thought about it again. So that, that was kind of the impression this one left on.

On the household. At least no one’s demanding this one to go back on repeat. Yeah. Although I will say my. My daughter’s gets pretty good scores in school or whatever, but her lowest ones are the science math one. So I’ll blame this movie for that. Okay. This, this one, it is a return to the classic Disney proxy. In a way, it’s a little bit neutered, but it follows the beats. So you’ve got the kid that loses his dad and then gets lost. Or I guess it’s a dinosaur, maybe. If it’s a dinosaur, it doesn’t matter as much.

But he’s supposed to feel like a boy, right? That’s the whole point of the. Yeah, he’s like a child. I need to go run. Right. He’s. He can’t seem to get things right. He’s a little bit underdeveloped. He’s the only one that he’s seeing is not contributing to the family, essentially, and he’s starting to feel bad about it. And at this point, his own, I guess he’s. He’s trying to make up for this by trying to prove himself, gets himself into some trouble, ends up with his dad dying or getting swept away in a storm that you assume that he’s dead.

And then he himself gets lost the exact same way that his dad ended up getting lost the first time. So he’s not the smartest dinosaur either. He’s just a good dinosaur. Oh, yeah, it is. It is the good dinosaur, not the smart dinosaur. That would have been a better movie. Although, again, I enjoyed how dumb the. The protagonist, Barry Barrington, was in the Country Bears, you know, but he was outright dumb, so maybe this. Maybe Arlo should be outright dumb. I don’t know, man. I’m not on my toes today. There was also a Nick Tunes show that I want to say took place in Australia or.

And they had like, a bunch of kind of like a Steve Irwin sort of character that had, like, red hair. But anyways, that one also had, like, a little monkey boy that acted like he was like a monkey, essentially. And it reminded me so much of that same character in this movie. Like the little kid. That’s the human dog. Yeah. Which is named Spot by Arlo. Something that kept running through my head is, I know you’re not the Avatar guy, but Avatar sequels, they have the character Spider, who’s kind of a feral boy who runs around with the Na’ Vi son of Miles Quaritch.

Of course, you have these things connected. It’s a small world. But, yeah, that’s kind of. I feel like that’s where the more feral boy trope has kind of worked. Because I think the second Avatar came out and people were like, I don’t think we like Spider. But then that’s the thing with Spider. You kind of do like Spider, and at the same time, you kind of don’t like Spider because he’s mildly annoying. This is a little different, though, just because the. Like, the feral children, you see them and there’s almost pity just because, like, there. They could have been more.

Right. The potential is wasted, or at least currently, and they need to be trained or, like, you know, housebroken, essentially. But then in this movie, you’re at the beginning of that journey, so it’s almost like. And, you know, this is before they eat the mushrooms. Right. This is before the Stone Date theory, so that humans are really just hairless apes running around without any real thoughts to themselves. Yeah. Excuse me. I. I guess they also tried to make Arlo feel more like a. A boy as opposed to a dinosaur. By. Well, one. I’m like, are they trying to stealth make a Yoshi movie the whole time? Because I’m like, he’s like, 2% away from Yoshi, I guess.

Yeah, I see that. But going for the cute factor. So they got that. Meanwhile, the backgrounds are, like, insanely photo realistic, which to me, like, having the characters be that cartoonish and the backgrounds being that photorealistic was a bit jarring to watch for me, at least. I don’t know if I picked up on your eyes or whatever, but it didn’t. You know, I read. I read that as one of the criticisms of. It didn’t really bug me that much because you needed to have some kind of contrast, and that was the only way to get the background to stand apart from the foreground.

Like a traditional animation usually has those dynamics, but once you get into absolute photo realism, it’s a lot harder to force contrast where it’s not like, existing, especially if so much of this stuff is just happening outside constantly. And it’s not like you would just run in front of a big neon wall or like, some other really cool shot that you can lean on in modern times. Right. So every single background here did have to kind of have, like, leafy green or sky or dirt or mountain behind it. Yeah, because we were impressed by, you know, the lighting in the background, everything for Monsters University.

And I have a note here that says the good dinosaur took 10 times as much data space as Monsters University. So Monsters university is like 30 terabytes, is 300 terabytes. I’m also starting. This is complete conspiracy territory. But I almost feel that sometimes when Disney or any other studios spend an abnormal amount of time or budget rendering what seemingly just seems like, why the hell did they render Yosemite in such high detail? Which is where all this takes place, basically, like Jackson Hole and Yosemite, like, that kind of area. Like, why spend all that time and money rendering this in detail? I know, maybe like the government contract in order to do it, and then they can just, like, slip this in as a secondary asset and then still make some extra money on the back end.

Again, that’s tinfoil hat material. But it’s the only thing that makes sense, because spending it so that it would look good for this movie doesn’t make sense. Well, there’s also the reversing the technology would, you know, probably be 10 years earlier in the military, and it just kind of spilling out here in the good dinosaur where we can create these absolutely. Photo real locations. I guess a Disney military kind of potato, potato. If we’re talking 2015 or whatever the hell movie this came out in. Yeah, yeah, good. Good point. But just, you know, you do start wondering, like, how they would.

I only know where I’m going with that, to be perfectly honest, so I’m going to bash my head into a brick wall now. Well, we’re talking about also the, the juvenile look against the realistic background. So I don’t know. I didn’t, I didn’t hate it, but I definitely felt like this could have been more cartoony, especially since the storyline was kind of juvenile. But again, they go through all the beats that you would expect in a Disney movie, but none of it really delivers. No. In the first five minutes, I’m sitting there thinking like, gee, I kind of want to watch the dinosaur sitcom from the 90s because it’s got the dinosaur family.

It’s a whole lot more fun. Right? That is. Yeah. Drastically Jim Henson property. No. Or. Or worked on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Henson. I. I don’t like that. Might have been like, right on the line. I don’t know. It was also Disney Channel that came out. Right. So that would have been right around. Because remember, Henson signs up his company with Disney and dies within the year. So I’m not quite sure where Dinosaurs fits on that timeline. Yeah, don’t. Don’t sign your name over it. Don’t send your company over to Disney. It’s not historically, I guess there’s a curse.

Well, apparently that once he did, he did stress him the hell out. And then when things start happening, it’s kind of course, they just took Muppet Vision out of the park, which is too bad. That was the final production of Jim Henson’s I don’t know if Dinosaurs before or after that was the last thing Henson himself actually made, which was that ride the 4D Muppet theater thing, which I think is gone now. They got, they got rid of most of that alley. At least in Orlando. It’s all. Yeah, they got, they got, they got rid of it about nine months ago.

Apparently the Muppets are going to get moved over and kick Aerosmith out of the Rock and Rolling Coaster. So you’ll have like Dr. Teeth in his man now, which that doesn’t sound that fun. And also you’re not going to have Steven Tyler making inappropriate handing adjusters in the opening video anymore. That one was one of the Rides that was right outside my office. So whenever I, you know, I talked about. I could just get up and within like 5, 10 minutes on a coaster. It was either Tower Terror or it was Rock and Roller Coaster. Especially if one had a line, the other one didn’t.

So I’ve. I’ve gone on Rock and Roller Coaster triple digits easily. I used to be able to recite the whole thing by heart. That one I’m gonna miss. Man, I hope they don’t change the roller coaster itself, but the coaster will be the same. It’s just gonna have the Muppets instead of Aerosmith now. Okay. I mean, honestly, I’m not. I’m not totally against that. I don’t. It doesn’t need to be Aerosmith. The ride is probably cooler than the theme, but it’s. It is just interesting. Like, you don’t really see an Aerosmith ride anywhere else, especially not in 2025.

Especially one that has a clone in Paris they had. Or. I don’t know if they still have it or if that one changed too, but yeah, and it’s. And it’s. It was way better than Universal’s Rock. Rock and Roller Roller Coaster, whatever the hell they called theirs, which they just also recently shut down. Oh, yeah, yeah. It was the one that went through like the backlot and. Yeah, it’s. I don’t remember the name of that. It sucked. If you didn’t go on it, you didn’t miss anything. It is a fun thought experiment, though. If it was just like, you’re taking Aerosmith off and putting in a new band, what new band would you put onto the coaster? Keeping in mind by new, it has to be a band that’s at least like in their 50s by now.

Right? Probably Green Day. Green Day, Okay. My first thought went to the Chili Peppers, but I think they’re like, that’s basically the same thought. Chili Peppers is more on brand with Disney, especially with the lead singers backstory. Yeah, yeah. Okay. There we go. No Arlo there on your own. There’s a rabbit hole for you. Yeah. So let’s see. Looking at this one, it is interesting that they’re like, oh, the herbivore dinosaurs are going to have a farm and then the carnivores are going to be ranchers and they don’t seem to know each other. That is a thing.

I guess in the west that’s how it works out. Because this is kind of like a stealth or not so stealth western as well. Right. Which halfway through I did write in my notes. Oh, My God, it’s a Western. A little bit. Yeah, a little bit of a Western, just because it’s like agricultural age. And also this one proves a theory that I don’t know if I’ve explicitly stated some. We’re slowly building it here. But here’s another theory in addition to the Disney proxy, but that Disney is okay with using bugs as an example of how you would torture, eat, hurt, consume, otherwise cannibalize, you know, act predatory against bugs are on the table.

And it’s just from being a bug. I think this. This had come up in a previous one and we were wondering, or I was wondering, is it the size of the bug? Is it, like, what if it’s a huge bug? Are you allowed to kill a huge bug? Like, if it were. Honey, I shrunk the kids in this movie. I think we get an answer to that because we see Spot rip the head, like violently rip the head off of a. A big beetle. And the beetle is probably 10 times the size that he is. So here we’ve actually got, I think, the most violent act.

I don’t think we have ever seen a sentient being’s head ripped off directly on screen, not off screen, and then, like, eaten. And this was. If you’re trying to remember when the hell has happened, this is when Spot originally meets Arlo and Spots trying to figure out how to feed Arlo. So he’s like, he keeps presenting him with all of this food that he eats, and one of those things he presents him with is a big beetle, and when he doesn’t eat it, then he rips the head off and sees if he’ll eat it then. Almost like the implication is that Spot knows the head is kind of scary and gross.

So maybe if I rip the head off, then you’ll eat it and he doesn’t. I mean, to be fair, most children have probably seen this kind of violence already in real life on the preschool playground, right? Or yeah, this is. You end up seeing a classmate rip a head off a beetle and eat a bug. That happens for three and four year olds. It’s. I guess it’s fair, man. Maybe there’s some unwritten rule that once that escalates from bugs into mammals or other sentient beings that aren’t bugs, that like, they’re crossing this. This cultural line, right? Because that’s when you start pointing people out as future psychopaths, essentially, if that escalates beyond bugs and beyond worms.

But here we’ve got Disney just reinforcing that line maybe. Yeah, it Is. And this does have the proxy, as we mentioned, but it’s in such a weird version one. It’s like the dad is like Death marching him and his son to a Disney proxy. He’s like, oh, I see where this is going. Like where this happens, you know, so there’s that, you know, dad tries to preempt death march, Death comes to us all. That’s them being the mushies. Right? That was a fantastic scene. Obviously my favorite scene in the movie. But yeah, again, this might be the only direct reference to taking psychedelic.

You’ve got Dumbo, which, like, was he drunk? Vague. What they’re drinking. Yeah, that was, you know, if it was a psychedelic, you wouldn’t be drinking that much. But then again, they’re elephants. Maybe this was a reference to Dr. Jolly West. Who knows? But. But this one, they actually eat some kind of psychedelic plants or herbs or whatever. And you see him kind of have like a minor little trip out sequence, which felt somewhat out of place because, I don’t know, they’re making inebriation seem fun. Again, outside of Dumbo. Well, again, this is such a kind of Frankenstein monster of a movie because we talked about inside out goes through a few different hands.

Still comes out pretty well where this one kind of like falls on its face. So. And they came out. It’s the first time two Pixar movies came out in the same year. So I feel like maybe, you know, it’s just like you can only put so much energy into one direction and it all went towards inside out. Instead of this one. This one also, it shows the, I want to say pterodactyls. I didn’t look up what they actually are. I don’t know if they were exactly. Pterodactyl. Flying. I spent like three minutes trying to spell pterodactyl when I was writing my notes.

Okay, well, so let’s just call them pterodactyls. But it shows them eating mammals. So it shows them actually eating, like little furry woodland creatures. And then they get their eye on Spot. And that’s kind of what drives most of the plot, is that Arlo sees himself as a protector of Spot because he’s this big dinosaur protecting him from a whole bunch of other littler dinosaurs that will definitely eat Spot. Right. And then I guess Spot is kind of funny, though, because it’s usually you have the human child that is their father is killed by nature or whatever.

Nature basically being the villain here. Maybe that’s why it’s okay to rip heads off of bugs, because nature is the villain here. But when we do, I guess Spot is technically the proxy. So it’s like a reverse thing where the. The cute thing that shows up when at his lowest moment is now the. The human child instead. So honestly, it’s. It’s not a bad. It’s not a bad plot because there was also the point in the movie when Arlo’s trying to get to his dad and he’s got Spot with him and he sees another human and he realizes, oh, that’s another Spot.

But then he doesn’t let Spot go to the human. He makes them go with him down to find wherever the dinosaurs are at. So Arlo himself, the protagonist, which is going through his own Disney proxy, causes a Disney proxy to his own sidekick, which is usually. I don’t know, it’s. It’s too convoluted to. They’re proxying each other. They’re proxy. Yeah, you know, never. Proxy. Never cross the proxies. But also, it. It would work so much better if this weren’t directed to such a young audience. And it kind of like stops. That’s also why the psychedelic reference kind of feels so out of place, because you’re looking around, you’re like, this movie’s made to babysit like a 7 year old.

Like, who. What are you doing? Who’s this for? Yeah. Oh, excuse me. It’s Spot and Yoshi. I can’t remember. Is this Arlo doing the mushrooms? I was about to say it, because if it was him and dad doing them before dad dies, that would suggest that maybe he had died of psychedelic hijinks, which I don’t think we want to make that the case in this movie. Yeah, no, it’s Arlo and Spot. They’re trying to forage for food of some kind, and they eat magic somethings. Yeah, well, they just tripped in a Disney movie. You know, that’s what.

That was my note. But hey. Yeah. Yeah. I think that’s it though, right, Dumbo? And then this. Yeah. I mean, if. I mean, a kid might be asked their parents, hey, why did things get weird after the mushroom? And now the parent has to explain it. Except that nobody saw this movie, so they don’t. So that’s not true. A few people saw this movie. It probably didn’t help. Yeah. And then. And then there is a Jurassic park velociraptor element to this one. And they call them wrestlers. And the wrestlers. This is where you were like, oh, boy.

This turned into a Western because they’re there to kind of herd cattle a little bit. And they see Spot and they see Arlo as trespassers. And then it kind of turns into Deliverance a little bit. It’s like, what do we do in Trespassers? Like he just gets like a real like thick southern draw and you realize, yeah, make him squeal like a pig. Yeah. Hey, I’ve gone rafting down that river. But I mean that stuff didn’t. That stuff didn’t happen. But I do remember area. I would just be. I would be setting up like a little bluetooth speaker to just play the little.

And now you can’t hear it over that. Can’t hear it over those rapids, man. Yeah, I guess not. I remember we were like 13 or something. There was this like kind of like she wasn’t meek, but you know, a very kind of soft spoken lady was our guy down the river. When we were hitting the. The major rapids, she started screaming, you know, grow you little shits. I mean it was, you know, the, the time where you really need to be rowing. So it was like, oh, she just got emphatic. I bet you took it more serious.

I was thinking reasonably serious. Hey, I. I’ve done canoes down whitewater. I wouldn’t try that today. I had to train to, you know, that’s fun. Not for a dinosaur though. But they, they both survive in this one. We do see that. Which isn’t this. This is like the most common trope in all movies where there’s a dinosaur and a kid is that at some point they’re going to go over a freaking waterfall. Even. Even without the kid. What was the previous dinosaur movie that we saw that was a flop? That was 3D animated dinosaur. Dinosaur also had that same exact premise where like a dino sore or an egg falls over a waterfall.

Oh my God. Will it survive? I don’t know. I guess when you’re limited to nature, like literal nature being the enemy for a lot of this. For some reason a waterfall just floats to the top of the list of ways that they want to animate that. The new Peter Pan ride at Disney See Us and it opened about a year and a half ago, that has it as well. Where you go over a waterfall in that ride. Just. Just throwing that out there for funsies. I mean it makes sense because of the horizon aspect. Like anything could be over the side of that waterfall.

So it makes it like an alluring. And it also acts as like that ticking time mechanic right where you’ve got. You’ve got to do something. You’ve got to act right now because if you don’t do anything, then you’re dead. So yeah, kind of like puts this stress in motion. This is also. It’s that particularized. Describe one of those screen and some practical set combo like the Spider man ride in Florida. Think. And I think it was all fake dinosaurs in the movie. By the way. They didn’t have any real dinosaur. No, no actual dinosaurs were harmed in the making of this movie.

Beetle’s another matter. That wasn’t. That Beetle is not animated. That was a real beetle. There was a real beetle. There was an a line in here. I’m trying to remember who said it. I just wrote the line down. But the line again, this is a Disney movie. A slightly juvenile, skewing Disney movie. I drowned that clock or sorry, I drowned that croc in my own blood. And I just remember thinking I was already had the note that this might be the most violent Disney movie ever. And then that line came up and I feel like it solidifies it for me.

If we go back and re watch any other Disney movie, this one has the most violence and references to murder and eating other creatures and drowning things in blood. And again, it’s the most forgettable of the Disney movies. So maybe they just like get. They snuck it all in here to get the quota out. They were like, we. We can’t release another movie without talking about blood sacrifice and drowning. So here it is. Okay, on to the next. Well, I mean, kind of. Ah, lost that train of thought again. Brains exploding again. Where were we? Nature.

There we go. Nature is the villain here. Earlier versions of the movie did have like, more. I mean, we got the creepy pterodactyls, I want to eat spot and stuff. But there’s not like a straight up antagonist in this movie. It’s. It’s nature. Right? All the problems are caused by nature. Dad dies because of nature. Nature’s violent. That’s why we can put this violent stuff in here. Violent humans would have been the interesting swing of that. Or like the humans are hunting the dinosaurs down. Yeah, like the inverse of FernGully. Because FernGully was like the humans were killing these little things they didn’t know about.

So this would be like they’re killing the big things, but they don’t know that they’re good big things. Although it would still kill you. The humans have to get a little bit smarter. You know, the sequel is ten years down the line. The good. The only good dinosaur is a dead dinosaur. Maybe. Maybe this movie is stoned Ape theory, because this is the. This shows Spot eating the mushroom. So maybe that sets in motion, like the quant, like, we don’t know. But after Spot goes and sees the rest of his family, he starts inventing math and wheels and stuff.

Yeah, I mean, he’s. He’s looking for those mushrooms again. Although you got to be careful looking for the mushrooms in a forest. You might meet the ones that kill you as well. So. Got to be. Got to be. If you’re doing mitochondria. Mitochondria. What is it called? That’s the wrong term. Mycology. What’s the study of mushrooms? There you go. Mycology. There we go. Yeah, you gotta be. You gotta know that stuff if you’re gonna be plucking mushrooms out. Also, speaking of things that can kill you, when we hear Arlo’s plan, he’s talking to Spot and he’s like, I have to go home.

I want to go home and see my family again. And immediately my. I start going back through my memory of every single kids animated movie about dinosaurs. Whenever they go back to see their parents, it’s never good. It’s always. They end up in like a. Like a big graveyard. So I kind of made that note of if you’re in a Disney movie and you’re a dinosaur, you probably don’t want to go back home. Although in this one, it pans out, right? Yeah, it works out in the end. He just goes home, right? Puts it. He makes his mark on the silo, which I.

I don’t know how they built that because they don’t have hands. But whatever. Which is, it’s. It stands out too, of another reason why it feels a little bit juvenile is just that everything works out for this dinosaur. He finds his way back home, Spot goes and finds his own little family, and everyone lived happily ever after. But they don’t, right? Because they all die. Yeah. Dad’s dead, right? So that’s like, even when he gets home, it’s a little bit of a bummer. But also, all these dinosaurs are on borrowed dime because even a kid. Like the dinosaur might be one of the easier ways to ease kids into the concept of death.

Just because they are so foreign and abstract and removed that when you’re talking about the dinosaurs aren’t here anymore, honey, that’s probably way easier than easing it into like, and your goldfish isn’t here anymore, honey. You know what I mean? Like, there’s a more direct connection, especially when it gets into like, like a personal connection. So the role of Dinosaurs with kids is to teach them about death. And in this one, the Disney doesn’t really exploit that fact. Like the dad dies. But that’s just any Disney movie. Dad dies in every Disney movie. Yeah, this one does kind of like, you know, Arlo getting programmed with xenophobia because everywhere except for his hobbit hole of a home sucks.

He’ll never leave again. They make, yeah, that’s a good point. And they, they make another point too. In this kind of world that every different dinosaur has. Yeah. Isolated itself into these little pockets, they don’t really coexist so much. So he would be with his own kind, and the pterodactyls are with their own kind. And there’s not a lot of intersection between those. They don’t seem to know about each other. You know, like, every, every new dinosaur community he runs across is just like, brand new to him. I mean, he is a young, he is a young dinosaur.

But I don’t think the parents would know either because they all just hang out as isolationists now. It is like, I guess, I guess that is part of the Western vibe, though, because, you know, people out, out west, they, they are quite far away from anyone else and, you know, are probably not going to know. I don’t know. I, I, I need to watch some more. Not Driftwood, Deadwood, whatever. Find out how things worked in the Old West. Except that’s a TV show, so it’s probably wrong. That’s the closest we’re gonna get, though. Yeah, yeah. Once this movie goes, like, full Western, I do start making notes in here.

Like, oh, no, I just spent another 10 minutes gear talking guitars with AI so I got a little distracted here and there. But so it, I hate to say I did slog through the movie. I started watching it, like, Friday night because I did remember it being a little dull. So I did like the first 30 minutes there and then 20 minutes the next night and, and then I finished it last night but was like, definitely getting distracted. Like, this movie had trouble holding my attention. I didn’t completely hate this one. It didn’t, it didn’t make, like, my bottom of the list or anything.

No, it’s not gnome. It’s not Shakespeare. It’s not Shakespeare bad. Which, of course on the occult Disney podcast means no Me and Julia and Strange Magic. Shakespeare bad. That’s gotta be. That’s some terminology for this podcast, isn’t it? Anytime Disney does Shakespeare, that ends up bad. But yeah, it doesn’t hit the bottom of the list. But yeah, I Mean, it’s not because they didn’t go all the way on so many of the premises. And also they’re. They didn’t really utilize the same, like, fantastical thinking of almost every other Pixar movie that came before this one. The only thing fantastic is just that dinosaurs and humans both live at the same time and dinosaurs can talk, and that’s kind of where it ends.

There’s not like a lot of other magic or mystical or anything beyond just that. And then they’re both fighting nature. Mushrooms. There’s the mushrooms again. Again, maybe that’s a point for this movie that it just makes. Introduces kids the mushrooms a little bit earlier. And also there’s when he has a vision of his father later. He’s just having a flashback the go. Well, yeah, the ghost dad. There’s a ghost dad reference in here because he’s thinks that he sees his dad and his dad’s ignoring him. And then he realizes he comes to some kind of revelation and then the dad is like, that’s it, son.

So he’s kind of like a mentor ghost dad that lives in his head. It. It feels like Arlo’s going to have problems later on. Oh, my note is Arlo just MK’d himself. Yeah, so. And then my next nose. I don’t know. I’m kind of fine if we just watch Arlo and the kid die. I’ve been, I’ve been programmed with the violence of nature by that point. I was like, let’s just get over it. But this, when he sees his dad, it’s after Spot gets stolen by the pterodactyls, and then he’s kind of like, oh, God, what do I do? And then that’s when he sees the dad.

And then the last thing the dad says is like, now go get that critter. And my first thought was that if those pterodactyls have had Spot for this whole. This whole time, that he goes on a spirit journey and he talks to his dad, all this, there’s no way those things were about to rip his head off. You know what I mean? But we go back to Spot and we can see somehow Spotlight is hiding in a tree and he’s survived this whole time. So, yeah, I mean, I guess you don’t want to kill the. The child too quickly in a Disney movie.

No, I know they were going for real life locations and things, but hey, I live. I live around a bunch of mountains. I think I can recognize one mountain from another. I’m like, they are they prominently featuring the same mountain that Paramount uses for their logo in this movie. Because it seemed like they were like the opening shop Indiana Jones sort of thing, you know, I don’t know. I didn’t. I mean, a mountain’s a mountain. Unless it’s got like some. Something special. Do it. Okay, that’s what. That’s the special that caught my eye. I was like, is this either is the same mountain that Paramount uses for a logo or it’s so similar.

I just wonder if it’s some weird bit of corporate sniping or something, you know, like, haha, we’re using your mountain maybe. I mean, it was. It was supposed to be Jackson Valley and the Tetons and that was where this was essentially supposed to be taking place is where all the art team, like when they did like little vacations or whatever, research, but they all did like trips to this area in order to get inspiration for this. So I don’t know, maybe there was a military operation going on in that. That area at the time. Yeah, maybe they’re building their mountains out of a mashed potatoes or something, I don’t know.

And then going to secret government sites. That’s why I’d like to think, oh, this movie at the very end has another kind of magic circle reference, which is interesting since the last movie we did also had that. And was it an inside out? Yeah. Two Pixar movies in a row have kind of this like magic circle concept a little bit. What was the magic circle at the end? It was just doing it around the family once he’s reunited with. You’re totally right. Yeah, I didn’t even pick up on that because two movies in a row. The way that Arlo and Spot communicate at the very beginning of the movie is they make like little makeshift dioramas of their family and put a circle around it to indicate like everything in the circle is my family.

And at the end of the movie, Arlo draws a circle around Spot with. With the actual human family as his way of being like, go be with your own. I’m a xenophobic. Get the hell out of here. Go back to your own country. And that’s. And yeah. And then he goes back with his own kind. And so I guess this movie is just teaching xenophobia and psychedelics. What an interesting combination. You think one would cancel out the other? No, no, I mean, because. Because the life experience outweighed the temporary psychedelic experience. Okay, there we go. Yeah.

And that, that’s pretty much what I wrote for my notes for the most part here, near the end, it just starts talking. It starts listing guitar stats and stuff. So because I started, I can go a little bit deeper. The. The movie itself. There it is. You know, we’ve already kind of summarized the whole thing, right? Dinosaur gets lost. Dinosaur finds a lost human. Dinosaur sends human with other humans that it found. And then dinosaur goes back home. The end. That’s. I mean, I don’t think we’re missing any huge beats in there, but some western stuff thrown in the middle because kids love Westerns, I guess.

But it’s just. Yeah, just there to like stitch the different parts together. There’s really no bearing on the theme outside of these. These main beats. But it was making me want to dig deeper. Of like, okay, there’s. How much money went into this? How many hundreds of millions of dollars went into this. It’s not like they just went there with no occultism. So I. I broke out the new tools that we’ve been finding. Which is what? The Arn Thompson Uther Index. And there’s another one too that I didn’t know about called the Thompson Motif Index. So the Arne Thompson Uther Index.

This is the cataloging of all the main major folklore motifs and themes. There’s. People want the deep dive. I think you brought it appointed Tangled for the full description. I’ve tried to do on a couple, if I remember. And there’s something obvious that stands out. Princess and the Frog, I think is maybe where. Yeah, it definitely works for the princess movies, you know. So we bring it out soon for Moana, probably. So the Arne Thompson Uther Index is referred to the ATU ARM Thompson Uther. So ATU 301 is the. Is just a general hero’s journey. That’s basically what Arlo’s on.

That’s kind of like the default catch all if you can’t figure out what the movie is about. And it’s probably some kind of hero’s journey. But then there’s also some more specific ones. The ATU 502 is called wild man as a Helper. And this is a story in which the protagonist is lost or is trying to find their way through some sort of a dilemma. And a feral or a wild man ends up being their sidekick and ends up being the one that reconnects them with nature in some way or reconnects them in a way that helps them get over this goal.

This is like classic textbook. Wild man is helper. ATU 502. You should bring that up any kind of party that Comes up like, oh, but then there’s this other index that gets even more detailed that I just discovered. And this is just the Thompson motif. So the Arndt Thompson Uther, I think is like a more specialized slash, generalized one. And then the. The Thompson motif gets into the weeds. But. But there’s four. One is the helpful animal companion, which is. Which is B510. Then there’s F761. This is landscape as a moral trial ground, which essentially is.

Once you put somebody out into nature, how do they react? Do they help other creatures that are in distress? Do they harm them? Like. Like that. Nature itself ends up being a proving ground for whether or not you have morality outside of society or some other system imposing it on you. And then there’s Also one called S31, which is the loss of a parent for the catalyst of growth, which I think is. That’s the Disney proxy. Right? That’s essentially one of the main elements into the Disney proxy. Well, now we’ve got like an official. S31 is one of the ingredients.

It’s like a vial. When they made the Disney proxy that they dumped into the little pot. It said S31 on the side. You mentioned also the hero’s journey. Right. Which kind of works with. Because I do think this is a very good template for Disney’s proxy. Just if you need to explain it to someone, you know, look at the good dinosaur. There’s nothing else to think about when you’re watching the movie. You’ll forget. You’ll forget. It’s not a great reference. The name sounds so familiar. What happened? But I guess something I’m thinking about with most Disney proxies is there’s never going back.

Like Star wars or Spider man. They always get to have the refusal of the call. And the Disney proxy almost never includes the refusal of the call. Luke Skywalker gets a moment where he might go home. Of course, it’s good he didn’t or he would have turned into a charred skeleton. You know, Spider man and Spider Man 2, the Sam Raimi ones. He gives. He stops for a while, right. And has to get back. Classic. Maybe. But I actually had the specific note we didn’t get into. We did Toy Story 4 and Toy Story 4 was.

Woody was like, no, we can’t go to school. We can’t go in the backpack. Even though that was the catalyst he needed to break from his old God because the. The new God was not going to serve the same thing that Andy was. So that. I think that was a direct refusal of the call and he ends up getting swept along anyway. I guess. I guess I’m just proving your point that he didn’t. Yeah, because Woody’s never been Disney proxied. He starts off as a grown ass in order to say. And then do it on his own.

He said no, but then it happened to him regardless. And also he. It shows what, 15 years prior, he says no to Bo Peep to just go at that time. Right. So second time he doesn’t make the same mistake twice, I guess is what Toy Story 4 does. But Arlo and the good dinosaur, I mean, he never gets a choice about anything. He’s just. He’s. I don’t remember the. What number and letter I’m going to say at a party, but he’s thrown directly in nature and has to prove his moral fiber. There’s. There’s no refusing the call.

The only way to refuse a cause to die. Classic F761. Yeah, but yeah, in the case of most Disney proxy characters, laying down and dying would be the only way to refuse the call. Alice just gives up in Wonderland. You know that. That’s the only way it works. It’s a good point. I. We need to rewatch all movies again now and see who lays down and dies versus answering the call. See, oh was wizard of Oz. That’s, you know, obviously the. Well, we’ve done some Oz, but not the MGM one. But that’s kind of the poppy field.

Like, okay, I mean that those are also heroin, but, you know, just. They’re kind of laying down dies what they’re supposed to do in that scene. Okay. Yeah. So if you do heroin, I guess that’s like the. Fentanyl would be the. The modern version of that. Yeah. So I don’t think we’ve seen fentanyl in a Disney movie yet on a long enough timeline. It only makes sense you would. So we did. Did you have anything else you wanted to throw out on that index today? Yes. Well, not. Not in the index, but here. 1. One parting occult thought is that if.

If we take this serious. Right. If you were a good dinosaur fundamentalist, whatever that might mean. But if you were a fundamentalist and this is the first Wild man spot. I’m talking about Wild man psychedelic taking Origin of the human species, which more or less is kind of what he represents. Right. Because he’s. He is currently in this base state before human consciousness sort of evolves in a way. And he’s kind of the original Enkidu, which is like the old. Like the Oldest Babylonian story, right. Where Enkidu was the original wild man. He was like the bull man that represents the bull.

And there is the scene in which Spot proves himself is when they go western wrestling and the diet or the dinosaurs look like bulls or these two horned dinosaur bull looking things. Right. So it’s literally Enkidu the bull man, the bull tamer, the wild man is Spot in this movie. So I mean if you want to look into it as deep as possible. But he was supposed to be the original wild man and Spot clearly is also the original wild man, except that there is no human civilization. Where in the Enkidu thing, you know, Gilgamesh, he’s there to what distract.

Gives Gilgamesh some bro time. He’s already a king with the kingdom he start. Enkidu starts as a slave and then he becomes a friend of Gilgamesh, but then he becomes the enemy of Gilgamesh. It’s like a whole. I mean it’s like heroes. Yeah, it’s pretty epic. Yeah, you could say it’s epic. He’s also is, is one of the only ones that doesn’t get to become a God throughout the process of all this. Like you still hear his name if, if you’re into old ancient research, but he still like survives. But he’s just a human or at the very least he is not a God.

He’s not at the level of Gilgamesh. Well, he doesn’t want any of that God crap, does he? He wouldn’t want to be a God. I mean that’s his body. There you go. So Spot is Enkidu. You got another? If I want to think of anything else. Let’s see this. They have the very short version of 127 Hours here where Arlo gets trapped in the middle of nature. That I thought that that to me was like, oh, my first thought goes to, you know, James Franco stuck in his, his rock. Right. So it is. There’s a lot of different like sad scene that again, for some reason you can do it with dinosaurs and bugs.

But if any of these situations were a mammal of some kind, it gets a little bit harder to watch. This should be the sad dinosaur. Another funny thing about this movie, just for production wise, it wasn’t just the director changed. Like the entire voice cast seems to have changed as this movie was under production. That happened in the last one too, right. Where they pretty much had everything recorded and then someone was like, let’s change some things. And then they didn’t bring back any of the original Voices. Yeah. So we had. Originally, it was going to be John Lithgow, Francis McDormand, Neil Patrick Harris, Judy Greer, and Bill Hader.

McDormand still around, but everyone else is switched out for the actual movie. So instead we get Sam Elliott, Anna Paquin, Steve Zahn. Ankaz area. I guess it just depends on, like, who’s Jeffrey Wright. Okay. There’s just. Who’s available at the time. I don’t know. Heck, Azaria can probably charge some pretty big bucks, though, right? That’s. That’s like one of the main. Simpson voice. Yeah, He’s. He’s Mo. He’s Chief Wiggums. He’s Superintendent Chalmers. He’s the comic book guy. Professor Frank. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He does. He doesn’t do an actual Simpson, but he does like everybody else on that show.

He should have done Simpson voice in this movie. Sure. Who was he voicing this movie? I just saw his name was there. I didn’t. Wasn’t really. I think he just says, like, three lines. He is pterodactyl number two. Sorry, The. The name actually attributed to those birds is ludodactylus. If I said that right. Okay. So, yeah, I knew that they weren’t actual pterodactyls. Whatever. Dinosaurs aren’t real anyways. Hey, I. You know, my dinosaur phase was short and was when I was five years old. And most of the names have, like, changed since 19. Since the mid-80s.

They all have, like, different names now, I think. And then they treat you like an idiot for actually remembering what you were taught originally and not keeping up with it because who. Who the hell gets out of grade school and continues to read, like, keep up with dinosaur finding? I don’t know. No shade to, like, all the paleontologists out there. Whatever. That’s cool. But I just mean, like, nor. Yeah, normal people. It’s like once you learn about dinosaurs, they never become relevant again. Yeah. Also, I. I had a short dinosaur phase, you know, and, hey, this.

This is some Disney programming. When I was like, four or five, my, you know, we went to the newly opened Epcot center and, you know that it was out. It was space geek from then on out, wasn’t it? Dinosaurs are stupid. Yeah. They’re like milestones, man. You’d start. You start with dinosaurs around the same time that, like, you want to be a cop and a fireman and an astronaut, but then you’re like, ooh, astronaut. And then it turns into space. But all of it was just invented by NASA when I was five. Apparently, I wanted to be a taxi driver because I’d seen the movie Taxi Driver.

No, not because of that. It’s because Kermit the Frog, when he loses his memory for a few moments and the Muppets Take Manhattan, I think he becomes a taxi. No, he gets hit by a taxi. No, he works for an ad agency in there. Okay. I was a dumb kid. I got confused and thought he was a taxi driver. And I want to be like Kermit the Frog. I’m just imagining Kermit a frog, just being like. You talking to me? Yeah, talking to me. You’re talking to me. Nobody else here. I’m surprised they haven’t done that.

They probably have. There’s probably a Muppet clip somewhere that has at least, you know, like, animal doing it or something. If not, I mean, you can do it. Hey, Disney needs to make some more Muppet stuff. I guess the thing with them and the Muppets. Sorry. I’m, like, really focused on the Muppets today for some reason. But that’s a case where it’s like, who do you get to do the voices? Because all the. All the guys that do the proper voices are dead or really old. So let’s not pretend like other people can’t do the Kermit voice.

Kermit’s never quite sounded right since Jim Henson died, you know, and they. They still got to get Frank Oz for most of your Fozzie Bears and Miss Piggy. So. Yeah, I don’t know if I think we’ve seen effectively that a lot of voice actors. I’m not saying that anyone can do it, but whenever one of them falls out, there’s usually a decent enough backup that everyone, except for the most hardcore won’t really tell the difference between the zoo. There’s a. There’s a few that I can think of, but none of them, like, ruin it. I love fake Mickey Mouses.

They have a guy that can do a good Mickey Mouse and they use them. But like, on theme park announcements and stuff, sometimes it doesn’t quite sound right that the Mickey Mouse voice. For some reason, I feel like it doesn’t qualify as an actual voice. I don’t. I don’t know. Well, the guy who created it was not really a voice actor, was he? Right. I feel like that is one that everybody could learn to do just as good as the original. That’s why I love the ones that don’t work, which you will find in official Disney stuff sometimes, especially, you know, direct to video or just like, it’s on.

It’s a screen for the theme park or something. Mickey Mouse. Doesn’t quite sound right. Those are the best ones, the bootleg Mickey Mouses. Mickey Mice. Okay. Muppets. Mickey Mouse. I guess it fits the Disney talk, but I, yeah, this is one where I was like, oh, my God, we’re 20 minutes in and I’m finished talking about the good dinosaur, basically, and Enkidu. I’d much rather talk about Inky do, to be honest. That’s much more interesting. It’s just, this is kind of a bland film, you know, I think that if you go into it looking for the violence, it’s interesting when you notice how many things that they show are, like, really incredibly violent compared to any other Disney movie before it.

But then all of that mature things that are happening, like visceral reactions, is not backed up by any, like, advanced concepts or story building or anything like that. So, yeah, I feel this one, they were, they were really trying to make it all visceral and I think it gets lost in the realism. It almost would have stood out more if they kept up the same. Like if they’re still ripping the head, the head of a bug off, but they rip it off in Pixar style, you know, like Pixar blood comes out or Pixar guts, but not like realistic version of it.

Yeah, I, I, this is better. I think this is much better than the 2000 dinosaur. A movie which, I don’t know, I feel like at least that movie at the end of was just like, what did I just watch? What did I just experience? I was like, I had so many questions. It was more, it was just as boring to get through ultimately. But at the end of it, it was like, that was weird. Like, that was a little bit of a fever dream. This one ends and you’re just like, okay, that’s, that’s over. What did I have to do today? Like, let me go do laundry.

Well, like I said, I, it took me like an hour to watch the last 20 minutes of the film because I kept getting distracted, you know, so. And I’m, I’m, I’m a, I’m a grown dude. I’m supposed to be able to watch an hour and a half movie without getting too distracted. I can do it with other things. And yet it felt longer when I, you know, I see that it’s like hour 34 or something. Like, ah, no problem. But it did kind of drag. You feel every minute of it. Yeah, I did feel every minute in the last part.

And it’s not because it’s actively bad. Like who’s watching this? Who’s. We’re watching every theatrically released Disney movie. Right. So obviously we’re gonna watch it. Who else is gonna be watching a good dinosaur? You know, Are you plopping your kids in front of this one? I mean, I guess it’s the only thing in the, you know, the hotel little library of DVDs. You might grab it. But that’s how this one gets watched now. They shot themselves in the foot in too many ways for like this one. Again, for some reason educators are like, I’m not showing this to kids because, you know, dinosaurs and humans like this didn’t live side by.

If they had just emphasized it a little bit more that this is an anomaly, this is like a fictional alternate timeline, they could have at least gotten teachers and educators on board and then they would have showed it to kids. But if they’re not on board, no one’s watching this movie after they, they turn eight, I guess because again, now, now they want to be an astronaut, they don’t want to be a dinosaur anymore. Exactly. I’m gonna, I’m gonna do my little films and fills trick and actually look at a 10 star review for this. Also, what was really funny is when I opened Internet Movie Database, I got a giant image of Yoshi in my face.

So for weird synchronicities because it’s listening. Well also because there’s. The second animated Super Mario movie is coming out soon. I’m not quite sure when that, that’s what I. I don’t know if we’ll ever get around to that one. But that’s one where my daughter wanted to watch and noticed I just happened to buy on Blu Ray for cheap a few years ago and that’s when I kind. I didn’t like walk out on it like I had things to do. But that was a month ago and I never finished it and I don’t think I’m going to finish.

Okay, I just put. I just realized you’re talking about the 3D animated one because I was like 2D animated. There was a Mario Super Mario Brothers animated show in the 90s TV show. Yes, yes. We might have to pull a couple episodes of that one up at some point too. And there’s also a bizarre late 80s early 90s kids show aired in LA where King Koopa’s Playhouse or something. So that’s. I haven’t heard about that. It’s. It’s super obscure. You’ll have trouble finding much data on it, but there’s a little bit out there on it. It does exist.

Let’s see. I’m looking at some 10 stars. Say what you want about this film, but it’s not as bad as Cars two. Okay, that’s not a ten star review. Yeah, I loved it. I almost cried to this because it’s so real how much fear affects someone. Arlo is a sympathetic character and I loved him. He cared for Spot. I wish others loved it as much as I did. Okay, they, they that has the thinking level about that is the plot of this film. They let their emotions win. I did make a note when I was watching this that they, they play the right music at the right times.

When there’s a departing moment, when there’s a sad moment. You can almost hear the, the, the solo piano approaching as something sad happens. So they, they do all of the things. So the fact that someone actually was brought to tears by this movie doesn’t surprise me because you’ve kind of been conditioned to go into that state when you hear that music and you see those colors. And as I’m scrolling through a good. At least half of the reviews are just like, oh, it was so heartwarming. I cried so much. It’s all. Yeah. So for me, I started looking up guitar reviews.

But yeah, did not. If I, if I catch myself getting feelings in a movie, whether I get angry at something or I get sad at something, it like I try and take like a moment be like, what specifically just happened? Was it the music? Was it like the dialect? What happened that I just had an emotional reaction because that’s witchcraft and I need to burn somebody. Okay, here’s one over at Films and Filth. That’s my plug. I’ll just keep saying that. Where we talk about highly rate and lower movies. We’re currently just doing the Fast and the Furious movies like straight through.

We just did Furious 7, the one, the last Paul Walker one. And everyone’s. Yeah, we all got a little teary eyed on the last scene there. They were just hitting those buttons. These are. And they both give each other like a thumbs up or something. And before that they have like kind of like. Oh, they showed like just a few seconds of clips from all the movies. So you see like how he becomes part of Toretto’s family and stuff. And. But it worked. I mean I think these, I’m the one who likes these movies. The least of the podcast says probably that of doing it.

All of us really got a little teary eyed. I’m like These movies are stupid. We just watched Vin Diesel destroy a building by stomping on it. We just watched the rock break out of his cast just because he didn’t want to wear a cast anymore by flexing his arm. Yeah, and now it’s making me emotional, so. But that was. That was witchcraft, wasn’t it? I think they’re entertaining, but they’re dumb and. But it’s like, oh, it’s making me feel moments you’re. You’ll stop yourself. Like, I don’t care about. Like, no, no shade on Paul Walker and his family and is an estate.

Like, I don’t care about Paul Walker. Like crying about Paul Walker and same thing. Like Arlo. Like, I don’t care that he just pawned off his stupid ass little human dog thing to like a family that. Let’s be honest, as soon as Arlo’s out of the picture, they ate Spot. There’s no way that they’re raising this new. Anyways, like, none of that is really sad or the Spot gets them to eat mushrooms first. But it’s. Again, it’s just. It’s the fact that, like, they know how to play the music and the music swells and like, just play with all the emotions at the same time.

They can get you even if you don’t care about it. That’s the three or seven thing. That’s where that Charlie Puth song comes from. Now that’s like shorthand if you want to make like a comedy, you know, emotional moment. But that song’s. I don’t even like. That song was weaponized. Right. You know, sorry, I just did like the most south park version of it anyway, but. Because I know if I sing on Zoom or it’s just gonna. It won’t come through anyway. Maybe Streamyard doesn’t do that. I don’t know. Anyway, the song is weaponized, right? That’s like a nuclear bomb of a.

Of a. Of a Heartstring Puller song. And speaking of, you didn’t really mention the music in this movie. It wasn’t really stand out. It had no needle drops, though. No needle drops. I mean, that would make. Well, I guess Dreamworks would do it, wouldn’t they? Who did the music for this? Oh, Michael. Dana. Jeff. Dana. I. Yeah, people. They did Life of PI. It seems Boondock Saints. Okay, it’s brothers. And I guess they collaborated. Or maybe they worked different times. Maybe one got fired and they hired the other brother. I don’t know. That seems to be how most of the roles in this worked.

There’s that. There’s actually more crossover between Boondock Saints and Disney, but I’ll have to leave that for another time. We’ll leave that for another time. So. Okay, my final review. The Good Dinosaur. The bad movie. That’s a little harsh. The boring movie. Boring movie. It’s not, it’s not in the top 20. It’s not in the bottom 10. I’ll put it that way. No, no. When we do watch Inside out and we’re like, this goes straight into the top 15, doesn’t it? It’s like, yeah, it does, because the week before and the week after we watched, you know, Schlock.

So usually you can tell within the first 15 minutes easy if this thing is going to be good or not. And this one, you can tell 15 minutes in. It’s. It’s not making its way to like an all time top. I’m sure there’s some people out there that this is like their favorite movie, but they should all be on a list. And then they all cry too much. If you go back and you consider if you really like this movie or if it just effectively manipulated your emotions and you are so astounded by the fact that a movie can manipulate your emotions, then you give it credit.

That’s probably what happened. Well, this is the case where it’s the last movie that person watched. Right. I always reference the Brian Wilson interviewer, like, what’s your favorite movie? Or have you seen any movies recently? He’s like, norbit, what’s your favorite movie? Norbit? A movie that no one ever says is their favorite movie except for Brian Wilson because he had just seen it. So that’s a good dinosaur. If someone says it’s their favorite movie, like, I, I wouldn’t put them on a list. I just feel like that’s a bizarre answer. And I assume they just watched it.

They could be on a list. Okay. If it was Strange Magic from last week or a few weeks ago. Yeah, that person goes on a list if they say that’s their favorite movie. But I will not. I want the good dinosaur. Doesn’t. Doesn’t make the list inducing movies for me. It could be different for you. That’s fine. I, I think I already sprinkled my plugs throughout this podcast. I won’t bother. But if you want to throw out what you’re up to, I’ll just do another plug for Cartoon Cabal. Right now we’re going through Neon Genesis Evangelion.

You have to say all three words at once, which is an anime from the 90s and breaking down any kind of occult references. That one’s got a lot of them. That one’s actually kind of loaded with it. If you haven’t been watching Ready for Human Sacrifice, that’. That’s a. That’s one for you. And, and ancient angels and Nephilim and everything. It’s all. It’s all wrapped up into that. If you haven’t been watching Sl. Listening to it, you should check that one out. And after we’re done with Neon Genesis Evangelion, we’re going to be doing a whole bunch of other animations and cartoons.

So you could watch with your family. Well, maybe so. I mean, some of them. Some. A word will slip through here and there. We do. I’m just saying don’t watch Neon Genesis Evangelion with your family. That’s probably a bad call. Unless your family’s Japanese and you live in the 90s and you’re eating dinner. Oh, okay. That. I’ll say. I said here too. I finally. It was like the Easter island thing. Like where they didn’t know how the moai were moved around for years. Right. And you and I, like, didn’t know when, what time of day they would show Evangelion.

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