The Internet Is Actually Satan (And This Doc Proves It) (Low and Behlod)

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What happens when you order a dishwasher, but the dishwasher is so advanced that you fall in love with your dishwasher? Under the docks, yeah, under the docks. Buried deeper. We’re breaking the locks. Footage got clip they erase all the shots. They collect the dots. Under the docks. Under the docks, yeah, under the docks. Welcome back to under the Docks. Paranoid American Sean Criss where we watch the doc and let you know if it sinks or it swims. Lo and behold, it’s us today. Lo and behold. Revises of the Connected World 2016 film by Warner Herog and narrated by Werner Herog.

Sometimes I say Verner. It’s Warner. So don’t. Don’t understand. I’m American. We chop up names. This one to wrap up the month. What an incredible piece. I mean you go from DARPA to CERNs to robots taking over the world, to Elon Musk on Mars. It’s. It’s. It’s pretty incredible. Everything that’s impact packed up into this 90, 95 minute film. This one is sort of a huge take on Internet and technology and robotics and just everything from the. The. And I say with a V, even though it’s a W, I say with a V. With Verner Herzog, his sort of outlook on technology, you kind of get a glimpse of that here.

So if you like Verna Herzog, this is just how he sees the Internet. Plotting the course. As you were saying, it’s pretty much the Internet and technology. From its creation of the Internet to how it. Where it’s now through the lens of herself, her saw kind of this like this is my interpretation of it. He. But to his credit, he does a very good job of finding the right people to interview. Finding the right details that kind of like push the story along and tell you where it’s at. To start it all off, he has 10 chapters, right? It’s each one a chapter of this is what’s going on.

So we’re gonna follow it in that order instead of just taking the claims. There’s some claims in here, but we’re gonna more kind of see what each chapter like. Kind of like a summary of what that chapter was trying to tell you. Because I believe he starts from beginning to end and kind of like fills in the gaps. So we’re gonna go with the first one, the chapter the Early Days where they overview the creation of the Internet. The first message ever sent, which was lo. Was it login. Login or whatever. Like they sent part of it and then it’s at the other Part and, and then it was something that was created in ucla, but then they had the ties of darpa, right? Like, then you get the top, like, which I was like, wondering, are we going to hear that? And I was the beginning of the movie it starts out, I’m like, okay, you got my attention, man.

We’re talking about DARPA already. And, and. And then they introduce how the Internet was and these huge giant comp. And how they were indestructible. And they don’t really go too much into the DARPA thing, but they do kind of like lay out that format. I mean, I don’t even think that’s conspiracy theory at this point that the Internet came from being DARPA funded. And the guy was impressing on how these machines were made to last a very long time. They were built like tanks because, I mean, that’s what DARPA builds, right? They’ll build weapons of war that are meant to last through nuclear holocaust if they have to, in some cases.

So that this original and the whole reason why this documentary is called Lo and Behold is that the lo. They were originally trying to say, this is the very first Internet communication ever, where you’ve got these two different server computers and one guy is trying to send a message that says login. And apparently all you had to do was type log and the system would know that you’re. You’re asking for login. It was like a shortcut, but they only send an L. And then they sent an O. And then after the other computer received the O, it crashed.

So the first message of the Internet ever was lo. And I actually thought that that was one of the more interesting points of this whole documentary is that, like, our historical record of this monument, this occasion, is just in this little logbook. And. And it technically started on a bug, right? The very first message crashed halfway through. So they didn’t even get to type out the fur. The full log. They just got to lo and then crash. I felt, seeing that part, that every IT guy in the world was like, yep, no wonder, man. No wonder it never works how it’s supposed to work.

I mean, at my work, sometimes you have to turn off the computer, turn off the label printer, turn the printer back on, restart the computer, and then it will print like, the 10 labels that I kept pressing the button on. So like, like, it was just kind of incredible. Of you’re like, oh, this is how technology. It wasn’t like, yeah, guys, we. We completed it. We’re like, oh, yeah, a fail. Epic fail. Then they kind of get into the next chapter, the glory of the Internet. They paint like the, the po. Positive aspects of what the Internet can offer.

And he does a really good job in this movie of compare and contrast. In all of his movies, he does interject, but he does give enough of each topic and the person’s perspective of how they think of it. He. They get into a little bit of the positive benefits and showcase like they made a video game that was helping to figure out RNA sequences and how that, you know, if there’s only a few of them, but now there’s millions of people across the world that have actually been able to help and figure out these sequences that can solve the, you know, AIDS and cancer.

That’s how they preface it as. Again, mind you, when I’m saying a lot of this stuff, this was from 2016 and it’s 10 years later and a lot has not, maybe hasn’t panned out how they think it’s going to pan out, right? Like it’s dissimilar to like watching the Jetsons in the 70s or 80s and you’re like, oh dude, they’re about to have flying planes and flying cars everywhere, bro. Like everybody’s going to be flying around in a little flying spaceship. They also highlight, this is something that I liked is that they highlighted Tim Burns and his creation of the World Wide Web.

Another guy that was associated with a lot of these organizations that were like, he’s associated with coming up with the idea while working at cern, right? And then they also start kind of like highlighting about these autonomous vehicles and how like Harvard and some of the other Ivy League schools were having these, you know, challenges of who could make the best autonomous vehicle. And they painted the picture of how there’s so much help. Like even they have a scene where they have these robotic soccer players and they’re like, maybe they’ll take over soccer one day. And the, the guy that’s making is like, this is my favorite robot.

He’s kind of like messy. Like he’s like talking about him like they’re real people. This is robot number eight. He’s. He’s kind of a celebrity around here. And then I want to go on to, to me, the dark side of the Internet. So this is where they kind of get, you know, emotional like. But it’s true, right? Like all this, I, when I was watching this, I was like open minded and saying, okay, that makes sense. They, they talk in one instance of the, the bad parts of the Internet where some girl, I think she had A mental breakdown.

And they were gonna put her in the hospital. The family, they’re. Let me recap. They’re talking to the family of a young 16 year old that was having mental issues. And they thought she was going to have to stay in the hospital because she’s had some episodes in the past. She stole the parents car. Turns out she got into a bad accident. They make it sound like, I don’t know if she got decapitated. I got a little confused. She got the ca. Yeah, she stole daddy’s Porsche and then immediately got decapitated after she ran into a truck.

And yeah, that’s exactly what happened. And then they come to find out this is the early days of the Internet and some dude is like filming it, took a picture. I’m not sure if it was a picture or video. Like to be my. It was the first responder. It was like one of the first responders showed up and he recorded and he took. Or he took pictures of it with his cell phone that was in his pocket. And this was kind of showing in the early days of everyone’s got a camera now and, and everyone’s got an Internet connection and how he just took it and he sent it to some of his friends and then it hit the Internet.

And what hit me in that scene too is just like you saw a lot of like how people, things affect people differently. So this family saw the video or photo that was being passed around and also because the Internet can be a cesspool of bad people, man. Shitty people. I don’t know what the other way to explain it. They were emailing him the, the, the stuff about his daughter and kind of like, yeah, that’s what you get. And like, you know, I don’t know, some weirdo found out about the story, found that stuff and started sending to them.

And they get into the cyber bullying aspect of like, what could we do? There’s no laws. And you know, this is the wild west. And everybody’s kind of like talking about the Internet as what we kind of know. Like now with all the censorship. A lot different in 2016. A lot of this stuff, it kind of made me think of like, wow, the way they’re talking and the mom’s like, well, I believe the Internet’s Satan. Like, I believe the Internet is the devil and it’s no good of it. And like, I don’t want my kids because it has harmed her so much.

Then they delve into another side of like video game addicts and, and people that are just like, Stuck on the Internet and the mental health crisis that it is creating. Because you got to imagine social media, what has been around almost 10 years at this point in 2016, I think Facebook and Stuff was 2007, 2008, another DARPA creation. Might. I had that. The social aspect and the mental health of teenagers at that time is starting to be in question. And they interview a couple people about their addiction to video games and stuff of that nature. It’s.

There’s so many, like, 10 different chapters, and each chapter’s got like five or six different topics in it. The. I think one of the biggest fire statements was that mom from the decapitated girl. And her. Her exact quote was, Internet is a manifestation of the Antichrist. Internet is evil itself. And it’s. And even if it’s not a physical evil, it’s like the spirit of evil. And now that there’s a spirit of evil, that we all can be influenced by it. And I was like, man, she. She should come on as a guest. Like, she’s right at home on, like, any kind of conspiracy theme podcast, right? That the Internet is the Antichrist itself.

I thought that was such a wild and sort of relevant statement. And this isn’t her. Like, this is. I can understand her thinking. What brought her to that is because what happens is the Internet is so cruel that as soon as this story got out, people were literally sending them hate mail like, your daughter deserved to die and, like, you should be next and all this stuff. And as soon as you hear that, maybe if you’re brand new to the world, you’re like, why would anyone do that? But then someone’s like, oh, their emails being sent, you’re like, oh, oh, right.

Okay. You know, I get it now. Yeah, it’s kind of. It’s messed up, but you’re just like, kind of second nature, man. Especially ten years later from this film, you’re like, oh, you mean Twitter? Every day, like, you know what I mean? This is what you see the. The baseline of Twitter, if you start it. Because I’ve had many counts of nuked when you start at the baseline of a new account. Like, you see all these murder videos, like, crazy. Like, oh, guy got shot, guy getting hit. Like, that’s like the baseline of Twitter. So, like, yeah, we have devolved a little more since this film.

And another thing that was in this chapter that I found fascinating is they talk about, you know, the rise of. Of cyber threats. And. And they. You see the. The formulation of the beginning of like, hey, guys, you know, cyber Terrorism, like, they don’t push it too much, but they talk about Titan Rain, which was a huge cyber attack that. That hit the U.S. government. And they kind of focus on it. The guy. I forgot the guy’s name, but he’s. He’s kind of implicating in one line where he’s like, yeah, you know, I mean, everything’s attached to the nuclear programs and stuff.

It could be hacked and basically just blow up the world. He doesn’t say that. I’m paraphrasing, but. But that’s kind of like where he was pushing it towards. Well, Herzog does a really good job in this particular section of the documentary about making a cohesive narrative without interjecting his own opinion. He’s like, letting other people completely. In separate interviews, but, like, leading you through this thing. So first he ends up talking to Kevin Mitnick, who is, like, the world’s acclaimed most famous hacker. Whatever. He’s been referenced in books and TV and movies and all over the place, even if you don’t know who that name is.

He’s worked his way into almost every aspect of popular culture as, like, the hacker. And he has an interview with Kevin Mitnick. And even Mitnick himself is. Is talking about how easy some of this, like, quote, unquote, hacking is. And that even with all his hacking ability, at one point, this is early, I think this isn’t like the. The 80s, but he ends up finding out the phone numbers or something to, like, FBI agents that are on his case. And, like, uses that to figure out who the prosecutor is. And then now that he knows who the FBI agents and the prosecutors are, he can find out who they.

They know and their friends and their colleagues. And at one point, he just calls someone up and he’s like, yeah, I can’t get access to some report. And the person over the phone just gives him, like, the username and password to just log in. And so, like, a large part of that hacking is just social hacking. It’s just like using your social connections to, like, get all this different information. And then it goes on to talk about how this. This. This program where China was essentially hacking the United States for three years straight, and they don’t know what’s happening.

They just see a bunch of traffic. And then slowly they realize, oh, it’s this coordinated attack. Because now cyber security is part of international policy and some governments, and that this was them trying to figure out, okay, who runs this company? Who do they know? Can we compromise people that they know in order to get to this top thing. And just imagine that on the corporate scale, the military scale, just all across everything and that maybe China got the lead on us. Maybe like we should have been hacking them before they started hacking us. But that was one of the, the cooler moments was hearing some of that.

And the guy keeps going like I can’t really talk about more than this. And even her ZOG is like, was this the name of the program? And the guy’s like just nodding silently without saying now. But to go back to the hacker part, that was one of my favorite parts because he actually they called up Motorola to find like these people’s like information and he’s like talking to the lady and he’s like, you know, like word smithing it and kind of charming her and getting everything and she’s like well actually I don’t have access to that.

And as a matter of fact, I’ll go to our cyber security chief and he’s like oh no, no, no, no, no panicking. And she goes to the chief and he’s like, well I talked to her and he’s like oh man. And he says there’s nothing we could do. And he’s like relieved that he’s not going to jail. He thinks he’s getting busted. And then the, the cyber security chief is like, oh. He said he’ll give you his login so that you could log in and get this information. It was just like you said, like it’s funny because everything’s always thought of as like again, I love that her say does this in his films is we have this notion of what we think hackers are, right? Like oh, they’re always.

Yeah, but it’s also charm and little human connections and being able to sway people as just as much as it’s getting into like actual digital system. They, they don’t mention this in this documentary, but a fairly popular line of thinking and, and being like a hacker is that you always focus on the weakest link. And now with all these, you know, 2000 bit encryptions and stuff that the weakest link tends to be a human. So now in order to hack something you just figure out a way to get someone to tell you their password and then the rest of it’s easy.

And then the, the next chapter is life without the Internet. They kind of focus on like people that are away from, you know that they have this big piece of land and they get all the frequencies out of there. I’m probably butchering how it’s done. But they also focus on this group of people that claim to have frequency illness and that like these frequencies from the, the cell phones and Internet and I’m guessing even Radio State, because I mean it, the cell towers are not the first frequencies that have been introduced, but maybe those are higher frequencies, whatever.

We could nitpick on that. But they do have a dramatic scene where the lady’s like crying and explaining how, at least to the aspect of if it’s real or not. I don’t know this illness, but she really feels like she’s affected by it. And, and he, her say even asks her like, what’s it called? And they kind of don’t say. And it goes to the next scene. But it was like people trying to be off the grid and explaining how technology is ruining their life. And I got some more insight on this. They don’t mention the exact mechanics of this place or like a lot of the contacts.

But it was Green bank, which is in West Virginia. And this specific place is called the National Radio Quiet zone or the NRCZ. And the NRCZ is this place. It’s a 13,000 square miles. And it’s designed specifically to have minimal radio interference because there’s a observatory there and the observatory has these very sensitive radio telescopes. So originally it was created as the area so that the radio telescopes wouldn’t have interference. So there’s no cell towers out there. You can’t get a cell signal. You can’t get like Internet unless it’s hardwired, essentially. And what this did is it ended up having this weird side effect that the original reason for it was for scientific, you know, telescopes.

But because there’s no cell towers in that area and people that have this, this, you know, an unknown diagnosis that I guess is not currently recognized by modern science, that they have an over sensitivity to frequencies and that if they go to this area that has no radio frequencies, then they’re fine. And I don’t know if you’ve ever seen the TV show Better Call Saul, which is about the lawyer in Breaking Bad. He’s got a brother that’s a very successful lawyer. And then he develops this, I guess like frequency sensitivity and has to move away, gets his electricity shut off.

He wears tinfoil hat all the time and like a little tinfoil shroud. You’re not allowed to bring a cell phone into his house. You got to like put it in the mailbox outside. So this is a, like a common theme that you’ll see sometimes, usually as ridicule. It’s usually like, look at this idiot that thinks that Microwaves and cell phones are hurting them. But this lady that you’re talking about, she kind of breaks down crying and. And she’s basically saying, you have no idea how inconvenient this is. You think, I don’t want to go back to an apartment and use a microwave and watch TV and talk to my friends on the phone And.

Because I guess part of the thinking is like, oh, you think that you’re such an evolved hippie that you’re going to live out into the woods and have no technology, and now you’re going to complain the technology is so evil that it makes you physically sick? And these people are like, no, it really does make us physically sick. And no one recognizes this as a true illness. And as far as I can tell, there’s no. There still isn’t a. A scientific explanation for what happens in any of this. Just like one of the. The ladies that we’re talking to, I think she mentions the Schumann resonance.

She isn’t called the Schumann resonance, but she’s talking about how, you know, if you sleep on the ground and the dirt, that the earth is vibrating at 7.83 Hz and that this is the, you know, frequency of nature and yada, yada. You hear this a lot, too. I think she even says, like, they say, like, who the hell is they? This is like this hippie logic. But there really is reported effects on, you know, nature and on animals at these certain residents between like, 7 and 8 Herz, even though there’s not any kind of conclusive scientific.

And here’s how it works, and here’s why it works. So I don’t know, every time that I. I think of the better Call Saul version of a guy that can’t be around cell phones because he gets sick. You think mental illness, but then you see these. These people and they’re like, no, it’s just very like, I’m crying because I’m so inconvenienced. And then he gets into earthly invaders. It dabbles a little bit because I like how it kind of blends. It’s almost like listening to an album, right? Watching his films is like listening to an album where you’re like, oh, he’s setting up, like, you know what I’m saying? Like that.

And it’s like a. Not just in any album, like, classic old albums, like, like we talked about, like, the Prince Paul. Like an album where you’re telling a story. Because, like, at the end of that one is that they’re kind of talking about, you know, Space invaders and kind of dabbling with UFOs. I liked how he drags things together and then he starts talking about, like, robots and autonomous vehicles even more and how they’re gonna take over human jobs out of necessity. And like, they focus on this one robot and how it will close a valve so, like, the nuclear facility in Japan could have been prevented and that like, a human couldn’t have been in there, but a robot could have been in there.

And then it starts getting into this, like, question that, like, now I think we’re getting even closer to is what jobs should robots take over and which robots should they not? And you know, you get the aspects of like, the people that are like, yeah, like robots are going to take over these jobs. It is what it is, bro. Like, what are you do? And kind of like the human aspect of it, they don’t dab too much of, like, what, like, they’re not talking to workers like, hey, he’s taking my union job. They more put it into the perspective of these super, super dangerous jobs that a human couldn’t do.

There’s one guy too, I can’t quote him directly, but he makes such a good point at the end and he’s like, what happened? And I’m going to paraphrase what happens when you order a dishwasher, but the dishwasher is so advanced that you fall in love with your dishwasher and now you, like, you don’t want your dishwasher to wash dishes anymore because it has this other deeper fulfillment. Doesn’t that kind of make it a crappy dishwasher? Like, even if it’s so good that it’s so advanced, it ends up not washing. And I think the point that they’re starting to make is that, that once robots are doing all of these menial and like manual tasks, it’s going to start with things that we can’t do and then it’s going to turn into things that we don’t want to do.

And then it’s going to just turn into pretty much everything. And it goes into the. And it’s weird because this documentary is already, what, like six years old or something? Almost 10. 10, dude. 20, 26. Like, but the point that you make is great because what he said was, he said her say asked him, like, well, what about these things? Because they were talking about how it thinks, right? He was saying, oh, well, it’s kind of like they do dream because they’re analyzing what dream? And then he’s like, oh, well, you know, they do Think they’re.

They’re analyzing different ways they can move the valve and how they should shut it off and this and that. And then he’s like, well, if they could think, like, does that mean they can love? And they can. He’s like, that’s when he makes the comment about the dishwasher and the refrigerator. And I think that takes us into the next chapter. The artificial intelligence. And the mindset of it was these people were like, no, no, they’re just going to do these jobs that we need to do. And they could not even think, like, oh, nobody would fall in love with an AI.

We can’t do this with AI. And then to see where we’re at. Like, they thought we’d be farther in some aspects and that other aspects wouldn’t happen. And it is kind of cool to watch that. We’re 10 years ahead of it. And we’re like, yeah, but that didn’t pan out how you thought it was going to pan out. And they really thought, like, they get like, you know, Elon Musk is. This is when Elon Musk starts entering the chat more and more, right? Like, because Elon. Big, bad Elon. Well, we got to watch out for artificial intelligence.

And I think people throw it out there, like, because you see Elon talking about it, how we need to do this, and it’s. It’s going to help us. It’s going to save humanity. And then some other people are like, yeah, it’s like, you know, it’ll help, but what. What is artificial intelligence? And from where they thought we were going to be like, they were like, it’s not like it’s going to make music or anything. And I’m like, oh, really? Like. Like, they made a couple comments in the film that you’re like, we do that now. Like, you know, I mean, like, we’re able to.

People have in love and are actually falling in love with robots and AI and they’re like, yeah, right, dude, why would someone fall in love with their fridge? And you’re like, no, they’re not falling in love with refrigerator. They’re falling in love with a fembot that has an AI Persona that has been, like, developed and looking how they want it to look. And it speaks to them. And they. And there’s people that are talking in their chat bots right now. Like a. Is the. Under the docks good enough for me to watch? Like, this is how I felt.

And then they’re communicating with this thing that they’re thinking that is their friend. It’s also wild to see because this is pre Twitter Elon Musk. In fact, Elon Musk is only here because he’s had a SpaceX and they don’t even really play up his involvement in Tesla. And when they talk about autonomous driving, they don’t even talk to him. They talk to two completely different people. So now watching this 10 years in the future like Tesla or Elon Musk has got his fingers in all these different categories that he goes into. There’s like 20 categories and he technically could have had his like even on the Internet bullying one, right? Like Elon Musk is also sort of at the head of the Internet bullying at this point.

And then they get into the Internet and me where, you know, social media’s aspect of it. Because this was like I said like what 10 years into the social media experiment, everybody has an iPhone pretty much or an Android smartphone in their pocket. And ten years after that and it’s kind of like a. Where he’s following like even in that spent a time of how like you know, the influence which is even crazier now because I was like, dude, there wasn’t even Tick Tock back then. So they. There was heavy influence. But Tick Tock found a whole new way to like really manipulate stuff.

And this was the peak of where we saw like hey, Facebook could be dangerous for the youth or could be dangerous for some people that are easily lost from reality. And it can take you into these dangerous places. It could be good and positive. And through the south, this film they talk about, you know, the, the double edged sword and then they get into the dangers of the over connection right like where they’re like, people are like overly communicating and getting too much details and it is turning people’s minds into all craziness. And I think that’s where we’re at now.

Like you can evaluate like yeah, maybe that’s why so many people like dehumanize people. It started out little where it’s some guy that probably thinks it’s funny that I’m going to email this guy in what, 2015 or 14, whenever this guy’s daughter passed away and was decapitated and someone put it up and then someone found the video of it and was like, hey, let me send it to this guy. It’s going to be funny now we’ve created these wars right of where there’s these people that are like it is absolutely the devil, I cannot use it.

Or it’s like, oh no, it’s cool man, that’s A joke. And like, we have this growing hatred amongst each other from what this division we cause from the Internet. I think Elon Musk makes one of the better points in this. And he’s talking about AI. And if you tell AI, hey, make as much money as you can, you know, like, here, here, you’re an investment computer. Make as much money as you can. And he said, like, there’s a version of AI that would say, okay, let me short all small business stocks and go long on sort of like defense stocks and then start a war.

Make like humans start warring with each other. Because historically, this is when these big transfers of wealth happen. So now all of a sudden, if AI is learning from, okay, well, how do humans make money? Oh, humans make money by going to war. Let me start a war. That this is like a very real, logical, like, outcome of just letting them kind of take the wheel a little bit. So that one was a kind of a poignant observation by him. And I’m going to wrap up because there’s. I know there’s a lot because like you said, there’s like 10 chapters and there’s like five to six.

But it’s. It’s crazy how, like, you’re getting. It’s not overloaded, but it’s just so much stuff, and it runs actually pretty smooth. But the last two chapters are Surveillance Culture, the Price of Connectivity, and the Future. So, like, this is when you’re seeing, like, not the peak yet. We’re starting to get there. But by 2016, the surveillance state was up and running. Right. Like, this is a big deal. This is snowed in time telling us about the NSA and what. They’re not only just saving videos and phone calls of us, we have audio and, and it’s only stepped even more, I’m sure.

Like, as we all have our cameras right now, we have to put our shield down every now and then. This is like kind of the beginning stages of that. Well, what they’re talking about is metadata, and that’s what Snowden was talking about, metadata. And it’s. And it sounds so abstract, maybe for like a nefarious reason that it’s abstracted, but metadata is like, if you don’t tell the computer who you are, like, if you’re. If you think you’re anonymous, you know, heavy air quotes, you think you’re anonymous online, you still have certain types of behavior. You’re going to have some kind of a fingerprint in how long it takes you to type and the types of different sites you open up, how Many you open up, how quickly you read them and close them, all those different tiny little metrics start to come together and form sort of a fingerprint for you.

So even if you think you’re anonymous, you can use all this other metadata to sort of pinpoint maybe not you down to the individual person, but at least to like a generalized group of like, here’s the type of person you are. So no matter how hard you try to become anonymous, all this metadata is going to follow you around. Even if you’re using VPNs and like air gap thing, like everything across the board. And. And this, this not in this documentary, but this one I like to liken to how everyone’s like, I’ll never get the mark of the beast, man.

I’ll never get the chip. Right. In the, in the 80s and 90s, it was about, they’re the government’s going to chip you and they’re going to track you with these chips. But then if we just get a phone, like now we just carry the chip with us just in our pocket instead of inside our phones. But. But having it on you like most people’s phones and like smart watches, they’re analyzing your heartbeat, how fast you’re walking, how far you’re walking, where you’re. So all of that is the metadata. So even if it’s not allowed to track that this is paranoid American walking right now.

They can pretty much figure out who you are just based on your movement and your activity. And that they really. They hone in at the end of this documentary how all that extra metadata is going to be the thing that identifies you. Even if you think you’re being anonymous. Foreign. Treasures and overboard moments. I’m gonna let you start, but there is. This is another man. I just think her sage gotta give him. It’s. I’m gonna be giving him so much props because there’s nothing. But there’s a lot of treasures. You could go on. We could do a whole series of the treasures just in this film.

Yeah, I mean, I didn’t go through the. The chapter by chapter. I just made a list of all the different topics that he’s able to go through. And mind you, he’s able to weave these so that one leads into the next. And it almost has this narrative. So I’d say that the ultimate hidden treasure is how he’s able to. And these are the different ones he goes through in order. He goes from RNA to driving cars, to soccer, to a decapitated girl, to astronomy. And the guy that Lives out in the middle of nowhere to Internet addiction.

And then he starts talking about solar flares and how the world might end if we lose all this technology. Hacker con anonymity versus being tracked. SpaceX dreams. And then also the, the very last thing they start talking about at the end is how these guys are using MRI machines and they’re using it to analyze your thoughts and your dreams. And they even show you. And this is in 2016. Again, they’re showing you what they have at this moment in time. And they make this claim that whether you are silently thinking about something or if you’re watching a video of it or if you’re daydreaming about it, that the neural pathways that light up are similar enough that it doesn’t matter whether you’re reading about it or seeing a video or daydreaming, that the, the sequence of events that they can map in your head are, are letting them know, like, oh, you’re thinking about a pack of elephants walking by or something.

Like they will actually know that just based on your MRI readings. And he makes this claim that telepathy, the only difference between what they’re doing and telepathy is that what they’re doing, they can only read it within millimeters. But if you were to be able to read it from feet away or from miles away, now all of a sudden we’re talking about legitimate telepathy and that the only difference between all of this is just how far the science has brought us. And he makes another claim that how sci fi usually misses the biggest innovations ever. Like none of the sci fi books, and you brought this up earlier on, but we’re all waiting for, you know, driving cars and, you know, Jetsons kind of stuff.

And we don’t have that. We don’t have like a Rosie cleaning our clothes and like a little robot assistant yet. But what we do have is the Internet. And none of the, the old sci fi stories necessarily honed in on something as important as the Internet. Yeah, they, they didn’t feel the key, like. Right. The key thing. And to. I’m glad you said the Internet because one of my hidden treasures, because I could go on forever. But I wanted to put something because it kind of made. You said this before. Like, you know, I like when it teaches me something or shows me.

Which there’s a lot that it showed me. But one thing I never heard about was Ted Nelson and his different concept of the Internet and like how he was like more talking about the concept of hypertext and he was super super duper about this. Like, I really liked how he kind of like, had a different approach because I’ve never really thought about it. I’ve only thought about like, oh, the Internet’s created. That’s what it. But yeah, of course there would be other people, like, even if you go from Tesla and Edison, right? The two different types of ways of getting to the same problem.

And, you know, I wanted to know more about him, so I’m going to research more and more about him because it talks about, like, his, you know, ambitions that still to this day, he’s like, no, this is the wrong way. He’s mad about the copy and paste. He’s like, that’s not the way you do it. He wanted. But his concept is how we got hyper hyperlinks, right? That’s what that, like, they talk about. And his, to me is like the definition of innovation of where you have somebody that has an alternative perspective. But instead of collaborating with him throughout history, we steal some of the good ideas, toss them aside and make them look crazy.

And then they’re just still there. Because he has the quote of like, you know, well, some people say, you know, doing the same thing over and over again is insanity. You saw. But also there’s. It’s, if you first don’t succeed, try and try and try again. He’s like, I prefer the latter. So it’s almost like inspiring to see someone like that that has still had that completely idea that he was there for the birth of it and they went to a totally different direction and he’s still sticking to his guns like, no, man, this is the right way to do it.

Yeah, I didn’t, I didn’t fully. I’m not going to pretend like I totally understand what his approach to the Internet is because I’ve been bombarded by the only one that actually exists out there. But what his use case for it was the Bible, right? He’s showing how between the actual, like Nicene text versus the Apocrypha, how one story in the accepted St. James ends here, but then it continues in this other book. And then after that story ends, you can go back to the main book. And he’s using that as his original idea for these links and these hypertexts is that.

And this is my understanding is that. And he’s. He starts ranting about people shouldn’t be copying and pasting. That’s not the way it works. Because the way the Internet works now is that someone will be like, okay, let me grab that section of the Bible. And put it on this web page and explain how it connects to this other thing. And it’s like, no, you shouldn’t be making copies. You should just be linking to the original thing. So now when anyone goes to the original thing, then it’s like, and here’s all these things that link to it versus here’s a million different takes on this exact same topic that only vary a little bit here and there.

So I don’t. I don’t fully understand how you would have rolled out the Internet as the way that he’s describing it, but yet he definitely has a completely different perspective on how all this works. And I’m positive in his head, I’m sure it works way better. But, you know, just like we saw with the General Magic movie, sometimes having the right idea, if you’re ahead of time, it’s maybe even worse than being behind the times. It’s that time around Sink or Swim. I’ll start it off. I think that. Spoiler. All these are good. So this one’s another swim for me.

Although out of the three we watched, I think it’s. I like Grizzly man the most. Followed by Cave of Forgotten Dreams and followed by this one, lo and behold. But, man, I feel so spoiled. Like. Like watching this one, it was like, I’ve had too much lobster. I don’t know, maybe I’m a little full on lobster at this point, right? And then the next day you wake up and you’re like, oh, there’s only cold pizza in the fridge, man. What about those days when I was turning down lobster? Right? So it’s a. It’s a swim in that case.

But it maybe doesn’t hold up to the same interest level. But, man, as soon as this. This documentary ended, I went and I checked the time code again. I’m like, I don’t know how Verner is able to take all this information and craft it in such a clever way and do it 90 minutes, like, every damn time. And it just makes me think of all the documentaries we’ve watched that are like two or three times the length of this one, that don’t even say a tenth of what he gets into. So it’s. It’s sort of a master class.

And here’s what. Here’s what a documentary looks like. Yeah, he’s gonna get the trifecta for me as well. That’s three swims in a row. I don’t know if it’s the only one, but I. I would say they’re all Michael Phelps. And it’s like comparing. Like I would put one the lo and behold slightly up over grizzly man. But like, it’s close, man. It’s hard to. Because I like both of them because. But for different reasons. Right. Like, but they both have that aspect. What a great filmmaker, man. I think this film exploring like the different aspects of like the inner.

Like, I like how he focuses on the human aspect of it. Like, even when he’s talking about the guys with the MRI machine and they’re. They’re talking about dreams and they’re talking about like, oh man, you never know, someone might invent a little headset that we could put on and then we could just read each other’s minds. You know what I mean? Like, the endless possibilities. He gets these, these people and he brings out something I don’t think everybody can do. Like, this is a true master classman. He. He’s in a class of his own. This is probably my favorite filmmaker right now.

It’s. It’s gonna be tough to beat because you get so much great shots with a great narrative. He has the per. Even though they make fun of him, but when you’re good at. That’s how you get made fun of. He has the perfect narrator voice, the, the perfect pattern of how he like, explains things. He’s. He puts a human touch to this. I. I would say, hands down, the. My best filmmaker so far. On the horizon. What do we got next? Not sure. But what we do got next is you could go to paranoidamerican.com and kill themirds.com and get you some merch.

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