Winnie the Pooh (2011) Combat Related PTSD and Military Disassociation Therapy

➡ The text discusses the 2011 Winnie the Pooh movie, suggesting it’s a form of escapism from harsh realities, possibly even war. The characters are seen as representations of different mental states, with the Hundred Acre Woods serving as a safe haven. The text also touches on the history of the Winnie the Pooh series, hinting at its creation during World War I as a form of disassociation from the horrors of war. Lastly, it mentions the movie’s unique use of wordplay and its overall simplicity, making it enjoyable for all ages.
➡ The text discusses how the characters in Winnie the Pooh represent different states of PTSD, a condition that was once referred to as shell shock. The characters’ behaviors are seen as coping mechanisms for trauma, with Pooh’s constant search for honey symbolizing a retreat into simplicity and predictability. The text also criticizes the way PTSD is treated today, suggesting that the term has become impersonal and is not taken as seriously as it should be. Lastly, it mentions the evolution of Winnie the Pooh movies and their animation styles.
➡ The text discusses the characters from the 100 Acre Woods, focusing on their food preferences and the potential health risks of sharing food. It also touches on the nature of the characters as stuffed animals and the reality of their world. The text further delves into the music in the movie, comparing it to other soundtracks and discussing its impact on the film’s timeless appeal. Lastly, it explores the character of Christopher Robin, comparing him to various religious and mythological figures.
➡ The text discusses the character of Christopher Robin from the Winnie the Pooh series, suggesting that he might represent a person dealing with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) from war. The author proposes that the entire Winnie the Pooh universe could be a comforting place created by a shell-shocked soldier. The text also explores the idea of Christopher Robin as a figure of control, ensuring the 100 Acre Wood doesn’t spiral into chaos. Lastly, it discusses the character of Eeyore, suggesting his constant misfortunes and lack of reaction to physical pain could symbolize deep psychological trauma.
➡ The text discusses a movie called “The Cooler” about a man who always attracts bad luck, and how this concept might apply to real life. It also mentions various experiments and theories related to luck and probability, including the CIA’s Project Acoustic Kitty. The text then transitions into a discussion about the characters in the “Winnie the Pooh” series, speculating on their potential for violence and their symbolic meanings.
➡ The text discusses the characters and themes in the Winnie the Pooh movie. It suggests that the movie subtly introduces adult themes and complex emotions, but quickly moves on from them, providing a safe space for children to process these ideas. The text also explores the idea that the characters represent different mental states, with Tigger as mania and Eeyore as depression. Lastly, it discusses the concept of the story being reset with each new page, allowing for new scenarios and possibilities.
➡ The text discusses the theory that the author of Winnie the Pooh used the story as a form of therapy to cope with his traumatic experiences from World War I. The author’s own experiences are reflected in the characters and their adventures in the 100 Acre Wood. The text also suggests that the author may have unintentionally passed on his trauma to his son, who the character Christopher Robin is named after. The story, while seemingly simple and juvenile, is seen as a complex and therapeutic narrative when viewed through this lens.
➡ The text discusses a movie where characters create their own problems, possibly as a reflection of Christopher Robin’s psyche. The characters are compared to stuffed animals, with a debate on whether one character, Owl, might be real. The text also mentions various voice actors from the movie and ends with a discussion about different animation-based soundtracks, including one from McGruff the Crime Dog and another from The Simpsons.
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This is honey here. Over there, it’s honey. Hey, honey. This movie is all I’m glad you started this way. It’s all about psychological operations. And I would even make a strong argument that this movie and the entire Winnie the Pooh series and all of Disney’s catalog is essentially working with the military to breed super soldiers that are devoid of any emotional connection with the horrible atrocities that they’re all going to face within war. And without Paranoid American coming in hot today, I guess, yeah, true to name, we’re going to have to jump into that. But yeah, it is 2011’s Winnie the Pooh, depressingly the last hand drawn animated movie that Disney has produced.

This is the end of the road for it. You know, we’re a little late coming this one for random reasons, but you know, I’m excited for it. That’s why I’m wearing last year’s Halloween costume, which is Tigger, if you cannot see this. But I’ve learned for Halloween costumes to just go as pajama like as possible because, you know, I have to wear it for five days sometimes I have a like actual professional lesson, you know, pop out and be in the suit real quick. And I just need to be practical. No, having an entire catalog of just Halloween sweatshirts seems like a great way to go about it because there’s so many other situations when you could pop on a fun sweatshirt without actually putting a Halloween costume on.

Right? It’s like an extra line. You get to the jump between no. One of my friends. First year that works at the company. First year he wanted to be. He decided to be Thanos, you know, from Marvel, Thanos, however you say it. So every day he had to paint his entire head purple. And he had to shave his beard in a weird way too. So that stayed for a little while too. So too that’s that was too much commitment. The beard thing, you know, whatever, but especially the painting your head purple and having to take it off every night.

Ooh, that sounds horrible. There’s great actor. I don’t know if you’ve seen any of. We’re going on a tangent first, but we’re going to bring it back around. But none of you have seen the series Penguin, where Colin. I can’t remember his last name. Colin Farrell. Yeah. Where he plays the Penguin. And it’s phenomenal. Like, he’s phenomenal in it. The show’s great. It looks like it’s fun for everyone except him. And even though he gets all this credit for it, and it’s a great show and I hope they pay okay for it, but he’s like, I don’t want to do it anymore.

He doesn’t want to sit in the freaking chair and put on the fat suit that takes two and a half hours. And, and it’s kind of like the war. I don’t know. There was an episode of God, there was, there was an old sketch show on mtv, but you’re about to talk what I was Human Giant, where the guy’s on the side, he surgically becomes Wharf from Star Trek to avoid that. And then he gets cut from the show and he’s like, what am I? Yeah, it’s, it’s a great idea. Yeah. Shows him, like, trying to do a romantic comedy in his alien makeup, and then he has to get surgery to, like, undo the previous surgery, but then he, like, still looks really weird.

Yeah. Which is kind of like a real thing now. Right? Right now I haven’t seen the Penguin. I saw him in, in the, in the, the Batman movie. So you get a hit of the Penguin there, but I’m sure you get a lot more hits of the Penguin in the show called the Penguin. No, Penguins and Winnie the Pooh. So what, what was your take on this movie? Just entertainment wise? I, I, I, I’ve kept pushing this one as one of my favorites. So how, how did it land in your court? I like that. I, I think that I can appreciate this one after watching it under a certain lens.

And after you watch it under a certain lens, I think it becomes infinitely more enjoyable. I also would say that this is probably the best out of all the different poo movies so far. It’s de. The first one’s probably the worst. One first is the worst. And then the Tigger and the piglet one are both kind of decent. They’re both serviceable. And this one I Feel is probably got the most heart to it. It’s also a little bit simplistic, but it’s simplistic and again like a good way and a like dopamine predictability inside this weird dopamine loop way.

Yeah, one of the, one of the quotes on this, maybe it was a Roger Ebert review where he was like, this is a movie that is nightmare proof. Like it, like even the backslung is not going to give a two year old a nightmare. Really. You know, if they have a nightmare about, it’ll probably be funny. What a great succinct way of explaining this movie. But also the reason why it’s nightmare proof is that this is literally the, the shell shocked PTSD recluse thoughts of someone that’s trying to come to grips with seeing wartime and carnage.

Right. This is the exact opposite of all that. This is a disassociation from the real world where logic doesn’t have to apply, physics don’t have to apply. And the funniest jokes are just like wordplay. And in this movie, literal word like they play with words and with letters and it kind of breaks this fourth wall and it becomes abstract. There’s like a little, I wouldn’t even say a fever dream because a fever dream could imply something edgy or dangerous or like like almost nightmare area. And again, this is like being bathed in a warm soup of opiates maybe.

Yeah, that sounds about right. I’ve always kind of thought of this one as being like NLP the movie, you know, the old neuro linguistic programming partly the word player talking about. And then Al in this movie just is like a master of like accidentally using neuro linguistic programming as well. I think so. And everybody can convince Piglet to do anything. Like it doesn’t take much this one too. Piglet feel. Some of the characters feel more refined. For example, Piglet does feel like he’s afraid to do everything. And in some of the previous movies he didn’t come off as.

As scared and as weak that I would usually, I guess remembered him being or expected him to be. So in this movie everyone does kind of play true to form a little bit. Even Rabbit goes crazy two or three times. He gets these weird daffy duck eyes where he like loses his mind a little bit. He starts getting angry and you almost wonder if he’s going to get violent. But again, this is this Entire Series and 100 Acre woods is a place that you send your brain to while you’re murdering people. So it’s devoid of any like Actual violence.

So Christopher Robin is actually down in the trenches, like, disassociating, going back to his childhood, or he’s like a Patrick Bateman kind of character. I don’t know. It’s. It’s hard to tell. But, yeah, I guess I’m just trying to go there. I mean, I’m just trying to think of the timeline, chronology of these books being. The books were basically started to be written in the early 20s. Right. That’s why we got the weird copyright thing not so long ago. So it almost seems like, you know, oh, someone came back from fighting the Great War and is using this as just complete disassociation.

And we’ve gone through some of the different archetypes and the characters, and I think one was the tarot and one was the gnostic Winnie the Pooh breakdown. And the most tired one is when each of the characters represents a different mental illness, essentially. But I do think that that’s pretty much what this movie is like legitimately. That’s not. Doing this amplifies it. This movie amplifies it. And then the more you look into this angle where this. It was written During World War I, when this guy goes off and he buys a bear in Winnipeg, I think, which is where Winnie the Pooh originally comes from.

He’s on his way to World War I, and the things that he sees there, he uses this Hundred Acre woods in his own mind to retreat back into. Because I don’t even think shell shock was necessarily a word yet, or if. If it was, there was definitely no such thing as ptsd. And this is the one thing that he was able to do to treat himself for his PTSD was to create 100 acre woods where he sends his mind off to. And each of these characters represent these disassociative states. So, like, Winnie the Pooh is literally caught in just a.

Like a dopamine rush loop. He just wakes up, he wants honey, he finds honey, he goes back to sleep. It’s. It’s very predictable, but it’s very comforting because it eliminates any sort of chaos. And then the other characters, they can represent chaos, but they all have their own individual roles. Well, you’re making me think of the George Carlin bit where he talks about how that term over the years just gets more and more syllables and becomes less and less personal. So in World War II, it is shell shock. Writing the Winnie A. Pooh books, if war is involved in the creation, it’s shell shock.

You know, Second World War, it becomes battle fatigue. You know, Fatigue, four syllables. Nicer word. I’m not going to sit here and read the bit I can’t do. George Garland, Korea. It’s now operational exhaustion. Right. And then the final post Vietnam version is post traumatic stress syndrome. So his point is we keep adding syllables and making it less personable. Now at the end, he does say, and I will quote this, I bet you if we had still been calling it shell shock, some of those Vietnam veterans might have gotten the attention they needed at the time.

You know, just like, it’s a more visceral term. That guy got. That guy’s got shell shock. He needs some help. That guy’s got ptsd. Oh, okay, sure. Now, now it’s literally just a checkbox on a VA form. Exactly where a shell shock is. Like, oh, that sounds, you can kind of feel that when you hear the word. You know that that’s kind of the point of the sketch, I guess. I don’t know if any, any term or word is going to make the government care more about its vets at this point. I think that they’ve proven that there, there’s, it’s, it’s, there’s nothing at all that they have to provide any.

And they’ve already seen the horrors of war. So the, the military recruiters are like, oh, crap, like, we can’t lie to you anymore. You actually know what this involves. So they’re worthless to them. But when I was, when I was growing up, I remember my great uncle, who I never had that much to do with, but yeah, it’s a little weird. And people like just, oh, yeah, he’s shell shocked. You know, he’s in World War II. He got shell shocked. Yeah, he hadn’t been the same since. Right. And if they had said he has multi billion dollar empire, like, like Winnie the Pooh or no.

Oh, I wish. If my great uncle had done that, I probably. Yeah, whatever. Anyway, everyone Shocked Relative created an awesome children’s book series. What if that was a natural progression of every single war hero? No, I don’t think uncle and created a children’s series, but. Oh, well. But the whole point is me growing up and hearing like, oh, yeah, he’s, he’s kind of shell shocked. Is very different than just like he has ptsd. That’s like, you know, that sounds almost like me telling you I have a stomachache, you know. Yeah, you got cat called once too.

And maybe you’ve got PTSD now. Right, right. Whereas, you know, you were in the trenches. You shell shocked. I don’t know. But yeah, the Winnie the Pooh. This movie does feel like that this is post. Because if we did all the kind of like, they were theatrical, which is why we covered them. But the almost direct to video Prove it Prove films, right? Which like you said, they were fine. We enjoyed watching them. But after Lassiter and Pixar come in and they make the deal, all of that sort of stuff gets, you know, thrown out. And this is Lassiter’s thing.

Like, we need to make a poo thing. And they did go, let’s go back to the book. Let’s make a thing about Eeyore’s Tale. And that’s kind of where this movie becomes weird and short is. It was just going to be a short to put before a film about Eeyore’s Tale, but they’re like, yeah, let’s add some more stories in. I think they’re gonna add five stories in at some point and ended up at three. So you end up with this movie that basically ends after what, 53 minutes. Which it’s nice, actually. Oh, yeah. I’ve seen this movie so much because when my daughter is like three or four, it’s like, this one’s only like, this one’s not even an hour.

We can get in and out and start bass time, you know, and it’s good. So I’ve seen this movie, like, a lot because it was practical to put this on. And the. I guess we will note if this is the last hand animated Disney movie. It looks great. I mean, it looks great. The Princess and the Frog people are basically not laid off after Princess and the Frog. They got shuttled over to this one. That also might be why it turned out to be a feature. Right? You know, we got more people on. Let’s add a little more.

Weirdly, they didn’t add enough to make it a proper feature. And they even cut out things you were supposed to meet, like Rabbit’s family or something, which I don’t care about. Yeah, I don’t care about Rabbit’s family. So that’s fine that they cut it out. Is that canon? I wonder. I mean, I haven’t read the books. The same here. So we’ve done so much poo and we haven’t read the books. Have I read the books? I might have read them when I was a kid. Again, Disney, by doing this, takes so much of the real estate of poo in your mind.

You know, model theme park rides. It’s like, have I read the books? I’m not even sure. It feels like if you Meet Rabbit’s family. It makes it that much more cruel when Tigger goes to meet his family and everyone just role plays because they’re like, he’s never going to find his family out there. But then if Rabbit shows up with his family reunion, I feel like Tigger goes into like a death spiral. Those 2000 movies, though, do seem to be in a different pua verse. You know, like in this one, Tigger is back to being very excited about being the only Tigger.

He doesn’t seem to be thinking about family at all. So like. And Piglet is scared of everything. He. He grows a spine in Piglet’s big movie. Right? Which Piglet’s not supposed to grow a spine. That’s kind of the point of Piglet, isn’t it? Well, yeah. And this one, like I was saying, he’s probably the weakest that we’ve ever seen him. And they all. If you relate each of those to different factors of being shell shocked and different symptoms you’ve got. Piglet is like. He’s probably the shell shock. He’s like the one that has just pure anxiety.

You want me to go where. You want me to go down into that jungle where. Where I don’t really know where it leads to. Like, that’s actually the harm soldier. I think Rabbit is clearly the. The over controlling behavior that’s trying to overcompensate for something turns into. He’s the uncle that screws up the Thanksgiving dinner. Right? Right. And. And he. And he’s the one that usually overreacts to some kind of chaos that’s going on and he. And he makes it worse. Right. That’s typically what Rabbit does is he finds a small problem and he turns it into a really big problem.

So you don’t want. You don’t want the Rabbit version of uncle’s shell shock to show up in the middle of dinner, I don’t think. And then who is again, he is like the pure concept of disassociation and just retreating back into simplicity and predictability. Like that’s the three things that make Pooh run. Like when you see like what usually Pooh goes along with a red shirt and he’s got a jar of honey. And that’s pretty much it, man. Well, there is the. The Tao of Pooh thing, right. Where people talk. He’s achieved. Well, he hasn’t quite achieved the middle ground because this movie makes it clear that he has serious addiction problems.

Otherwise seeming pretty much balanced out. But with, you know, an intense addiction for honey where he at the end, it’s like, oh. It’s like, oh, you chose your friend over honey. It’s like, that’s. Is that really a. Is that a real triumph? Well, and I wonder too. Even though all these different characters is, like, the shattered personality of, like, a war vet, but even these stand in personalities, are they at risk of starvation constantly? Like, because every time we see Winnie the Pooh, his tummy’s rumbling and he’s like, where am I gonna get my next jar of honey? But at a certain point, it’s like, he’s only doing this so that he can survive the winter.

Right. So is there an actual, like, starvation factor in any of these? Because even owl, they all eventually agree that a jar of honey is the right prize for anyone that can find Eeyore’s tail replacement. But they’re all pretty much in on this honey thing. And I was just starting to consider that, like, because poo is constantly out of food. So does that mean that starvation is one of the factors that drives all of them? In this 100 acre woods, rabbit does have a notable garden. So it might be like, do you want to eat, like, tasty food or just, you know, nourishing food? You know, do you want your vegetables or do you want that chocolate cake? That.

And Pooh is like, I want the chocolate cake. Chocolate cake. And everybody wants chocolate cake. Unless they don’t like chocolate. You could have honey glazed carrots. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you still need to procure honey for that. So there’s also a thing. It is like, at the end of the movie, Pooh gets to swim in honey. Which one looks. Seems terrible because how sticky do you get? That would suck. Trying to get honey out of fur. Christopher Robin’s not holding his hand and walking down the path right after Pooh ate that swam and ate in honey. You know, also, just let’s just consider again.

When you’re in 100 acre wood, physics don’t matter anymore. So I guess, like, neither do pathogens, but essentially, you’ve got this jar of honey, and then an owl scoops his big, nasty wing inside of it. Feathers all up inside the honey, and then it goes to a kangaroo, and then it goes to a pig, and then it goes to a bear. I don’t know. I feel like someone at the end of this chain gets Ebola because it’s just got, like, every different type. You’ve got swine flu in there, You’ve got avian flu in there. Like, what else do you need? Until this thing turns into, like, Covid 20.

But aren’t they all stuffed animals in the end? Not, I guess, didn’t the Velveteen or the Scarlet rabbit, didn’t that, like, kill people? Oh, geez, I don’t know. That’s a violent rabbit there. Much, much more violent than this one. But in this movie does start with that bit of reality where we go through Christopher Robin’s room and we see all of the stuffed animals before we go into the animated world. So it’s like the movie is very clear. Like, yes, these are stuffed animals. Here is their adventure. Just trying to take a bowl out of the issue, I guess.

Question about that. The tale on Eeyore is nailed in with a nail and a hammer. So what children’s toy are you affixing a nail and a tail to the end of it? Well, it’s a thumbtack, right? I mean, I guess it. It was probably originally. Let’s say it’s a thumbtack, but I don’t know. This seems like some pretty rickety toys to be giving kids. Even if we’re talking early 20th century, it could be a hand me down. I assume Eeyore’s tale at some point was probably connected by, you know, like, stitching, and that came off and someone thumbtacked it.

And it’s been like that for how long have these movies been coming? I guess maybe just it’s locked into a timeless period. Right? That is the goal of this movie, to make it as timeless as possible. The one flaw in that not really being a flaw. I just thought it was funny that the. The music is mostly sung by Zoe Deschanel, the, you know, quintessential manic pixie dream girl. So that feels like a very much of the time appointment to. You know what? I’m okay. I didn’t know. I’m fine with this. I wasn’t ready for another Carly Simon soundtrack.

Oh, yeah, definitely take this over Carly sign. But no, I, you know, I listen like Bell and Sebastian stuff, but I remember those she and him albums came out like that. That’s even too twee for me. You know, I. I thought the music was serviceable in this one. I really don’t like musicals normally, but this one has a decent balance to it. Like, it’s that the characters are singing, but it’s part of the plot, and it doesn’t just turn into, like, a needle drop moment. Oh, yeah, no needle drops. The. The. As I said, the closest thing to a needle drop is having a hip singer in there.

Right. Which again, I guess that works way Better in Carly Simon. No actual complaint here. I just like, kind of thinking it’s funny that this very timeless movie has this one, like, very trendy aspect, but it works so better in Carly. Sorry, Carly. Yeah, like the backs and animation sequence. That’s one with the chalkboard animation thing that, you know, the song has entertaining lyrics. I mean, you know. Yeah, we could do that tune Tigger song about making you a second Tigger. That’s. That’s. That’s fun. A little more mind control. Tigger is MK Tigger. I wrote that down in my notes.

Well, I mean, the biggest MK Ultra moment of this entire movie is clearly the honey scene where it turns into the psychic driving, the Ewan Cameron psychic driving of just going, honey, honey, honey, honey. And I’m pretty sure there’s been at least five or six Simpsons episodes that also do this exact same thing. Oh, yeah. Homer Simpson’s famous trip to Candyland, if you remember. So. Yeah. Well, what do you say on that one? I don’t even remember just where he’s having his candy hallucination. That tends to be the demarcation point, I think, for a lot of people, where the Simpsons really catches on.

On some fire. Because if you’re running Simpsons seasons one and two, like, are a little. And the Land of Candy is where he. That show starts to get properly absurd. Okay. 1 and 2 are not to be slept on. If anything, it’s. It’s when it starts getting bad for the first time and it never fully recovers, which I think is around 7. I don’t want to be too conservative or generous, but I think, oh, I’m pretty generous. I. I will go to season 10, I think, if you go seven. Yeah. I look weird when I take that hood off.

When you. Yeah, we have to at least include Hank Scorpio in there, which I think is maybe season nine. It’s been a while since I’ve done some Simpsons. Okay. No, I remember. I remember that. There. See, I guess this. These are just like old people ranting at clouds at this point. But there was a time when all of your media consumption and your schedule and even, like, the food that you were buying at the grocery store and going out to Pizza Hut, it would revolve around, like, a big event. And I think, like, one of those would be this Simpsons season finale or Simpsons season premiere about, like, who killed Mr.

Burns? Or, like, like the Simpsons going and meeting Frank Scorpio and living in this different town where there’s literally serial out that’s promoting that episode. And There’s Pizza Hut specials and toys and, you know, albums and magazines, all oriented towards, like, very specific episodes of, like, Simpsons and elf and stuff. And I think. Go ahead. I would say I remember my sophomore year of university, which would have been season eight or nine. But yeah, I remember we would. We didn’t have broadcast TV in the dorms. You know, I had, like, a TV and, like, a VCR player or whatever.

But. So we would, like Target restaurants on Sunday nights where we know they would be showing the Simpsons. So we could go get dinner and, like, you know, eat pizza and, like, see the Simpsons or whatever at the restaurant. Okay. No, there was the restaurant like that in. In Texas in the early 2000s. And that’s how I saw pretty much every single episode of King of the Hill. Because in every other state, it was on Fox. They would sh Right after work around, like, six or seven, I think they would show Simpsons and then King of the Hill and then Simpsons.

But in Texas, they would do the opposite. They would do King of the Hill and then a Simpsons and another. Another King of the Hill. Okay, now, we weren’t there for King of the Hill. We were just there for the Simpsons. I’ve never watched much of King of the Hill, so I’m not gonna pass any judgment on that show. But, yeah, just haven’t seen much of it. It’s. It’s more of a Beavis and butthead for the whole family. Okay, now I want Beavis and butthead for me, I think. So this might be splitting hairs, but I do want to give a little air time to this Christopher Robin.

In the past, we have referred to as antichrist. In this one, all my notes are archon is the demi urge and the Antichrist. Is that splitting hairs? Maybe. I don’t. I don’t know. I mean, I get. Technically, an archon would predate the Antichrist, but the antichrist would essentially be made out of the energy that you would expect to come from an archon. So it might be like a potato, but might be like a Lucifer, Satan sort of deal. Right. Beelzebub. Like, they’re all kind of expressions of the same horrible thing. But I would almost say that Christopher Robin in this one, he’s either another person that is shell shocked.

And I know in real life, Christopher Robin is the son of the author, so he’s. Christopher Robin’s not the shell shocked one. But in this particular work, when you see Christopher robin inside the 100 acre wood, either, that’s also just another comforting aspect that this author going through World War I shell shock. Like the. The entire Winnie the Pooh universe is existing inside of a guy that is holding onto his rifle and shivering in the middle of the night. Like, everything we ever see is just this place that he goes to. And Christopher Robin’s part of that.

To help suit them, even that’s one option. Another option is that Christopher Robin himself is almost like a John Malkovich suit that somebody puts on to go into this PTSD therapy realm. I could almost imagine in the future that the military just starts putting virtual helmets on PTSD soldiers and sending them into, like, the 100 acre woods. And then once they’re back to normal, they have them go and mow down more schools and hospitals, whatever it is they do. But then the third one is that he is kind of this archon. He’s just kind of like, checking in to see how things are going.

I don’t know if you’ve seen the TV show the Good Place, where Ted Danson. I think he kind of plays like this CEO or like an executive of Hell, but not necessarily Satan himself. Even though I think he gets that moniker. You get this idea that he’s working for somebody to, like, keep things running smooth. And I almost feel that that might also be Christopher Robin’s deal. He might be the guy that’s in charge of making sure 100 acre wood doesn’t go out of control, because otherwise you got vets snapping in public and going postal. Yeah, that’s kind of why I was trying to split the hairs, because in the past, we have said Antichrist for funsies, but.

But I’m like. That seems to be a little more malevolent, you know, like the Omen and Damien or something. I don’t know. A little more malice. Is the Antichrist in charge of his own thoughts and feelings? It almost seems like you can’t be the Antichrist and then do good things. Yeah, that’s why I’m pushing Christopher Robin. I’m just trying to retconsumer of previous podcasts. I’m like, nah, he’s more of a Demiurge. He’s a. He’s a mostly uncaring God. I mean, if you ask him and try and get him to care, maybe he’ll do something for you.

But in general, Christopher Robin, yeah, he doesn’t really care. He’s popping in, seeing how things are going. You know, if. You know, it’s like popping into one of the simulation games. Sometimes you pop in and it’s like, oh, things are going bad. But it’s interesting for you as the player, right? Although, just to add another point to the Lucifer Antichrist column, because that’s your ultimate. Ultimately this huge trickster, right? And so far, most of the things that happen in this movie are things that Christopher Robin caused The miscommunication. Like, the whole entire thing about the Backson is because he didn’t know how to properly write back soon.

And every time you see Christopher Robbins. Now, granted, he’s six or seven, right? So he’s kind of young, but he is creating chaos. They wouldn’t have Fever Dream this backs and monster up if it hadn’t been for Christopher Robin leaving this horrible, messy note. So, I mean, was that just because he’s a 6 or 7, or is that because he’s the Antichrist? Well, that’s where I’m going. To Demiurge an uncaring God, because he’s just like. I think I could write well enough to not screw up that note by six or seven. But, okay, maybe Christopher Robin’s an idiot and he’s mildly illiterate.

We learn al is like, 80% illiterate, and everyone else is completely illiterate in the 100 acre wood. So maybe illiteracy is the real problem here. If people could read and write, they wouldn’t be having these issues, you know, then. Because Al is just, like, looking at the book upside down or whatever, right? And then, like, making up this insane story about the backs and that nobody can fact check because they’re all illiterate. So who’s even able to put together Baxon if they’re all illiterate? And if Owl’s reading it upside down, how does he even get back soon out of that? Well, as I’m calling him 80% literate, Al clearly can kind of read a little bit.

Like, he doesn’t work out the words before. Backson doesn’t, does he? He just works out Backson. Fair point. Fair point. So Al knows a little bit. It’s like. I don’t know. I guess it’s when. I mean, when we were kids, we had toys. What I have. Yeah, we had the Fisher Price playset with clowns and stuff. And my friend and I, we had a whole bunch of dumb backstory about that. I mean, we were the archons of that. If those were sentient creatures, which I don’t think they. I assume they weren’t. But, yeah, that’s where Disney wants you to think they are.

Because of Toy Story. Right. I get. Well, and also the. The whole thing about Owl trying to Fill in these gaps and make up stories based on maybe 20% knowledge. I think that also that’s the part of the PTSD self soothing, of making sure that you’ve got an explanation for everything, that nothing is left unaccounted for, and that every little mystery or unknown tidbit that you’ve got an explanation for almost immediately, even if it’s completely wrong, because it closes this loop and it closes this gap so that your mind doesn’t start meandering and looking into other questions that you’ve suppressed.

But in a child’s, you know, like, toy creation universe, of course you want to put that in. Oh, here’s the character knows everyone, but I want to have fun and have things be funny. So he also gets everything wrong, you know, and like, and for example, nobody realizes that he’s caught in a pit, but he can fly out of the pit. And that becomes the joke. Like, the whole joke is that the, the viewer is supposed, you know, your kids are supposed to get that he’s a silly owl, that he doesn’t realize that he can fly out of this hole.

I think that this movie is simplistic as it is. It’s. It’s still worth watching. But it also might be a good litmus test to be like, how far is little Johnny or Little Debbie or who, whoever your kids are named. Like, how far along are they? Do they have the emotional intelligence of the Winnie the Pooh 2011 movie? Like, that’s an actual milestone. To see if they can get some of these, these hints that they’re kind of dropping now. I’m thinking with my daughter, because she, when we were watching us a lot, she was probably about three, right? Because it was when the Blu Ray came out.

So what was she laughing At? At 3? You wouldn’t necessarily get that. Al just flew out and flew back in. So. And then everyone’s like, owl. And you’re expecting somebody to be like, you can fly. But instead it’s like, what a great speech you just gave. Right. Which is the social convention. Right? You need to give someone. You have to be a great job with the amazing speech they just gave. You know, the fact that they hopped out. Yeah, of course. Of course. The NLP master would be the one to give the pep talk. Exactly. That.

That’s why that, for me, this is almost like if, if you wanted a movie to explain to someone what NLP was, just put this on for me. Like, you know, the vibe of this movie. That’s what it is. I could see that maybe Although there’s a lot of non verbal characters a little bit, or at least like I would say monosyllabic might be a better version of that. But even the way Eeyore talks, like at the end, it’s like, are you happy? No, I’m not. But I like what I like my new tale. You know, again, we were painting everyone’s so hard with the psychological paintbrush in this one.

It’s like, oh, Eeyore just described oppression in those two sentences. You know, also there’s a really, there’s a big implication that Eeyore is in so much trauma and psychological pain that even physical pain is either nothing to him or might even be a release. Right? Because they nail things into him, they tie things to him and he’s like lifted off of the ground. He constantly is getting hit and stumbling over and falling, losing body parts and not even realizing it, right. So it just, it seems that he is so wrapped up in the psychological trauma of war that even actual physical damage to his body goes unnoticed.

I was also though, I’m thinking about, you know, just the, the kind of person just attracts problems, you know, like you probably got that one or two friend where they just always have some insane dramatic issue and you’re like, are you, you know, it’s like, are you on meth again? It’s. Yeah, not, not even like that. Not even like, like, you know, the poo’s with the addiction problems. I’m just like, oh my God, this horrible thing just happened in my life. This horrible thing, you know, like the outside causes. But at the same time you just in mind is like is, is are you kind of attracting that like, you know, quantumly or something? There was a movie that, oh, I can’t remember if it was Paul Giamatti or if it was.

No, it wasn’t him. Anyways, it was called the Cooler and it was about a guy that just has naturally bad luck with everything. And one of the, the roles that they would send him on was that if you had a, a person in a Vegas casino that was on a hot streak, this guy would just go up next to you and sit down and you would lose your hot streak. And the, the casinos would start to hire this guy to go and sit down next to people just so that they would lose their hot streaks. But it, it kind of follows him through normal life and it just shows that.

That his superpower is essentially always attracting bad luck. I did see that way back in the. And I just double checked a better cast. I mean, Giamatti’s great, but William, William H. Macy, which is kind of the person. Yes. Okay. Put in that role. Yeah, I do remember seeing that and liking it 22 years ago or whatever. But don’t remember too many details about it. But I think, I mean, I didn’t look too deeply into. Maybe it needs a revisit. But I’m pretty sure that that was based off of an actual role that that Vegas casinos really did have coolers and they really did have people that go and sit next to someone on a hot streak expecting that their bad luck would rub off on this guy.

So the movie obviously is a hyperbole of that. It kind of like dramatizes it. But this wasn’t just a random story like this actually happened, which implies maybe gangsters were just drunk and just willing to throw money at people. But it almost implies that there’s kind of an unwritten like law of physics of luck and of bad luck and that some people do kind of just bring it around. Right? I mean, yeah, high, high stakes businesses and structures. Sometimes you get looking a little more outside. What was it Reagan was obsessed with, or at least Nancy Reagan was obsessed with astronomy and Vegas.

It’s like, hey, we need to go with a few other systems maybe beyond just the typical electronic security system. So it’s like, can we game. Can we, you know, use this kind of esoteric stuff to, to in our favor? I mean, I keep saying that’s kind of what magic. I think, you know, real magic is. It’s just nudging probabilities. I mean, if you go deep enough into MKUltra, you can see that at a certain point they’re just throwing things at the wall to see what sticks. You know, like the, the Project Acoustic Kitty where they’re trying to turn an actual cat into a bug, into like a microphone device with a wireless antenna that goes out through its tail so that a random cat would just like walk up to someone having a meeting talking about terrorism and the CIA would be nearby to kind of like listen in on the cat device and, and all kinds.

Like they were, they were studying black magic, the whole men who stare at goats and like Star wars and Phoenix programs. So clearly they were able to just take a lot of taxpayer money and throw it at the wall. Yeah, and very inexact science. Of course, as far as I know, most schools don’t have a department of. Well, they do have departments of psychology, but then you know, how deep they into that, I don’t know. I only had psychology 101. Was in university. I think I skipped most of it, too. Yeah, that’s what they call reverse psychology.

Well, the professor would put all of his notes on the board. And I think I had a radio shift during the class. I would just go do the radio shift shift. I feel like that’s a test. Like, that was an actual psychological test. I think I chose well. I think I got an A in the class. I read the notes, took the test. I took the. The test test, you know, no problem. Easy class 101. The. The. Another interesting part is that this movie threw me off at the very beginning. Not only does it start in this.

I. I don’t think it’s 3D rendered. I think it’s actual, like, physical reality movies. Yeah, no, it was filmed at the beginning. It could be. It could have just been really good 3D. But it’s. It’s like it’s real. And one of the things in that scene is they’re transitioning into the. The fake Winnie the Pooh is all of this sun and bowl symbolism. And at first I was like, don’t just read into this, because this is for cult Disney. And you’re just seeing a son in a bowl. But also we see a calendar for September right behind the bull.

It’s basically a bowl drawing on a little tiny chalkboard, which then later you see in the movie gets put onto Eeyore. But that. In these opening credits, you see a bowl drawn on to the chalkboard with a big sun raining down on them. And behind it is a calendar for September. And the one word that you can see aside from September is the word sun. Because from Sunday, that’s on the far left, and that’s peeking up over it. And then there’s, like, a little piece of chalk. And the light is hitting it so it looks like a sun dial.

And it just. It felt like they just kept dripping on this sun worship, bull worship symbolism over and over again. And even September is, I guess, like the harvest month, Right? September, October is like the harvest month. So it felt like going into this one, I was trying to pinpoint some sort of, like, fertility God worship ritual. Some sort of, like a wicker man burning thing going on when he’s not playing with his stuffed animals. Christopher Robin does Golden dawn ceremonies. That’s my guess. There would be more sex involved if that were the case. Yeah, that’s why I said Golden Dawn.

I was trying to go a little earlier. Right. Late 19th century for chrome. Real weird. You gotta. You gotta make it a sausage fest. Yeah, you gotta Kill a few people in the mountains first before you get into that. And I do. If there was. If there was one character inside of 100 Acre Wood, including Christopher Robin, I guess, who’s most capable of murder most? King Eeyore. Because he wouldn’t. It wouldn’t change his demeanor. He’d still just be depressed about it, Right. Well, I feel like it would take too much effort for Eeyore to feel that much emotion about anything to murder someone over it.

Rabbit feels the emotion, but does he have a reason to kill anyone? Guess it would be. Ow. And would he do it accidentally? I don’t know. He’d accidentally murder someone. Can you do that? I feel like Owl could be like, yeah, drink. Drink that fun potion under the sink. I think it says that it’s for human consum. Assumption. Right. He’s that kind of murderer. I think the. The Rabbit is probably the one that Lou. Like, he just had the shears in his hand, and his eyes just started turning swirly. And now Tigger’s head’s missing. Right. Like, he doesn’t remember it happening, but it just happens.

And I think that Rue is maybe the kid that accidentally lights somebody’s house on fire and they burn alive inside because he wants, like, fireworks, and he wants to, like, go on these wild adventures, and he doesn’t realize what he’s getting himself into. So I feel like he’s kind of like the kid that sets a fire in the middle of the woods. Yeah. And this movie also, the. The other movies just make conga. Kanga into very much just like the mom character, where this one does make her seem kind of, you know, kind of drifty and out of it.

You know, this is. Yeah. Now, mom is also disassociated because she’s. Yeah, mom is, just. Because in the previous movies, the picnic’s not qu. Is messed up. Kanga, I think we said in the previous movie, she’s the only one that doesn’t have anything going on. But this one, she’s got a little going on. You know, I think all. I think part of that is. Is more of a disassociation from adults and authority figures, because Kanga was essentially an adult living inside of this realm. Now, I guess the closest ones to adults would be Rabbit and Owl.

But Owl, his sort of ignorance undermines any authority that he would get from being perceived as an adult. And I think the same thing with Rabbit is that Rabbit, the temper, right? He’s got a temper, and he’s irrational, so that hurts his credibility as well. So as far as a kid would be concerned, once you’re in 100 acre wood, there’s no parents anywhere. It’s essentially Neverland. We should talk about the fun. And then Al is, in modern terms, is the prolificator of fake news. I mean, he gets everyone flipping out about the Backson, right? Which is a completely invented thing.

Fake news. Fake news, Backson. You get a good song out of it. So I don’t know, if you get some good media out of your fake news, is it justified? I was, yeah, because this movie is so timeless. They can’t play riffs on modern music or, like, modern personalities or anything. But in my head, every time they said Backson, I was thinking Michael Backson, and I. I was just, like, imagining, like, a Michael Jackson style, my pet monster. Because that’s kind of what the Backson looks like. He looks like my pet monster. Yeah, we got that.

Because the only physical backs and we have running around is Tigger in his weird suit. Right? So me being a guy wearing a weird Tigger suit, saying that. But I could put a hat on a hat. I get another costume, a Backslunk costume on top of my ticker costume. That’d be cool. Well, at the very end, I don’t know if you want. I mean, if you’ve seen this a million times, at the very end of the credits, you do see a real box in. And he does look like what they were all described, what Owl was describing him as, which kind of implies that Owl was right all along and he wasn’t just making stuff up.

You caught me. I got to the end of the movie, I stopped. And now you mention that we did let it play when we watched it 60 times back in the day. Because I was like, I thought we saw the backs, and it’s like, oh, I must be confusing with the Huffle Lump, right? But yes, yes, there is. It’s the same premise. But at the very end, it shows the Backson, and the Backson is finding all of the random junk that they left over the Hundred Acre Wood, which they were originally using to catch the Backson, and he actually finds it.

Anybody’s like, oh, I better clean this up and make sure no one steals it. Or. Or, you know, it gets damaged outside. And then he falls into the pit. And then he’s like, oh, I’m sure whoever put all these traps here and whoever dug this pit, they’ll be back for me pretty soon. And then. Which is what they were trying to do anyway. Or. Or, yeah. Or they just neglect him and he just dies of starvation in this pit. So I was gonna call that murder. They set the trap. There’s a number things that happen in the Winnie.

In all the Winnie the Pooh movies that ultimately would lead to death. For example, there was one. Someone makes a statement in this movie. It’s like, I just wouldn’t be able to live with myself. And I’m just thinking, like, I mean, if you draw that out to its logical conclusion. They’re talking about suicide, are they not? If I can’t live with my sono. There’s a lot of very adult motifs, but they’re just barely hinted at and they immediately get stuffed out like. Like as soon as they get brought up. I almost wonder if part of this is.

Is as you’re watching Winnie the Pooh, the. The movie in a meta way, is allowing intrusive thoughts to come in through just like, little quippy lines of dialogue, but then it snuffs them back out. And that way, like your own little intrusive thoughts, they’re also getting snuffed out in like an act of transference. Almost like this movie, it really does create, like a little lukewarm bath for you to just kind of insulate yourself from whatever trauma you’ve gone through. No, well, yeah, we’re playing this in the house. You know, my in laws aren’t going to be annoyed if they’re around.

My daughter liked the movie a lot. My wife and I get to feel slightly smart watching it, you know, because. Because the dialogue has so many quippy things, like you said. I mean, that’s kind of like a screwball dance where there’s like something major said and immediately gets snuffed out, you know, because especially in a kids movie, the more adult viewers are like, aha. And then we move on. You know, that’s the intrusive thought. They’re talking about murder and suicide. Oh, now we’re doing something else. That’s probably good. I’m glad they didn’t focus on that too long.

And I. Again, I think that this is maybe not directly the Disney proxy, but it’s part of the same prepping your, like, emotional intelligence for trauma later on. Like. Like this Disney movie is giving you coping mechanisms that took an adult male to go all the way through World War I and see carnage and see bodies and live with nightmares that woke him up in cold sweats in the middle of the night for the rest of his life. But he was able to channel all of that information into a useful coping mechanism that is Winnie the Pooh.

And now we give it to children. So we’re literally giving children tools that will help them when they, too, become, you know, like, wartime veterans and have to deal with their own issues. Like, imagine the level of shell shock that might exist still if Winnie the Pooh didn’t exist. And another thing that’s interesting to consider is that Without World War I shell shock, Winnie the Pooh would not exist at all. Yeah. One other aspect that kind of goes along with that is Tigger in this movie seems a lot more masochistic. Is that the word I’m looking for? Like, he’s like, beat the crap out of me.

I’m like, maybe Tigger is the kind of guy that pays call girls to step on his crotch. I don’t know. Like, as he’s trying to get Eeyore to pummel him and. And he didn’t want to be anywhere near a rubber. Yeah. Yeah. So I, I. And his logic also kind of suggests this is a slasher film. His mind just immediately goes to the most violent thing. The Backson’s gonna take us out one by one. You know, that sort of thing. Yeah. So. So I think that he represents mania. He’s the manic of this part. Like, if.

If Eeyore is the depressive aspect and Tiggers the manic. Right. This is a manic, depressive sort of relationship between those two. Yeah. Would it be more fun if Tigger just did both, or it wouldn’t be fun if Eeyore did both. Eeyore just has to be in his mode, I think. You know, I could see Tigger definitely having, like, having his lows, though. Maybe he just bounces off and has his loads somewhere else. I don’t know. Like, when you find out your entire family is dead and your friends are wearing their skin. Yeah. Although I. I do feel that’s a.

Either this is before all that, or we are cutting the cord with those earlier movies. Because those earlier movies did seem to kind of have a conversation with each other where this one definitely does not, as in the 2000s movies. Yeah. But another part of this interesting disassociative state that Winnie the Pooh can bring is in this movie in is how they actually show this is happening on the page and the letters are becoming part of the story. And, like, they even use it as, like, a ladder to get out of a hole at one point.

The letters on the page. And I think that’s also showing that when they turn the page, new sets of physics and new histories now can exist. So that even if Piglet got MK Ultra Mind erased in a previous episode, as soon as you turn that page, it’s like the game just reset and you get to start all over again. Kind of like a cartoon episode where every new episode until you start getting the. The serials, you know, the person that died. Like, what was the. The south park goal thing was that Kenny died at the end of every episode for the longest time.

Because it was this trope that even if someone died the next episode, they’d be fine again. Yeah. And. And a child playing with his toys, which ultimately is what this is, is, you know, if my friend and I are playing, we make this crazy plot switch to the toys that we play with, and tomorrow we’re like, yeah, that kind of sucked. Let’s just pretend that didn’t happen. It doesn’t matter. It’s not mass media. It’s my toys. Although, if. If this is Toy Story Rules and they actually do have souls, then this is making an impact on them.

Yeah. Well, do they have souls? Maybe. But if they are, then Christopher Robin is creating them. That’s a big difference in Toy Story. We really don’t know why the toys Toy Story have sentience. You know, it almost seems like some cruel trick of physics where this one is very clear that Christopher Robin has created these characters. And if the characters are real in any way, it’s because he is their creator. I’m venturing away from Christopher Robin as the creator, though, because Christopher Robin can’t actually have the shell shock that’s required to make these characters. Well, that’s the.

See, you have to make the. The little, you know, mind backflip into connecting the author with the character. I think in the end, like, like, if you do want to do the whole shell shock narrative, we do have to consider that he is taking his own shell shocked experiences and plastering them onto the character. So if it doesn’t make sense that a six or seven year old would have been in the trench of the World War I, you just got to work out that, like, extra inch of how this was created. I could accept that easier if Christopher Robin wasn’t literally named and based after his own son.

So now you’re giving. You’re putting a lot of generational trauma on your son through a book as a coping mechanism. Now it’s almost like he’s just paying it forward. Like, he’s like, man, thank God this book is taking all this trauma off my shoulders. And then, like, you’re the son of this kid named after the thing that he’s created, and you kind of get to inherit all that trauma, even though you didn’t necessarily see the bodies. You’re dealing with the aftermath. Yeah, but the kid. Would the kid really know all that much about it? I mean, I.

I doubt they’re having a call. Disney level breakdowns in the 1920s on Pooh at the schoolyard, you know, maybe, but he might have tried to wake his dad up in the middle of the night that one time and got thrown across the room and didn’t understand why. And he’s still trying to figure it out. Okay, but that’s. That’s not involved with him making his son a character in the book. Right? Maybe. Maybe that was like, oh, my God, I’m so sorry. I’ll make you a character in my book. Yeah. Yeah. Who knows what book Jack Nicholson was going to write in the Shining after abusing his kid? No, I do.

I do think so. Part of what makes this movie so good. And again, like the new lens that you see it through, imagine as you’re putting this movie on, imagine you have a body count. Imagine that you’ve woken up in the middle of the night remembering the faces of the people that you’ve murdered right before they took their last breath and you saw life escape from their eyes. And then imagine that you’re teleported into the 100 acre wood and all you have to worry about is finding your next jar of honey and just a wacky adventure with your friends.

And everything’s predictable and nothing’s can harm you, and there’s really no nightmares or anything else to worry about. So if you watched Winnie the Pooh and you kind of imagine that. That you are now going through some sort of a therapy session, it really does like, it’s. It gives it a darker feel to it, but it also feels even more wholesome because otherwise it almost feels like the movie is being very, like, pedantic or almost patronizing or almost overly simplistic and juvenile. But there’s so much care being put into it by so many industry professionals. So the only way that I’m able to.

To sort of bring these two things into a place that makes sense to my head is that it really, truly is like a. Like a form of therapy. And everyone that was working on it kind of got that premise too. They’re like, we’re making this to save my great grandpa from dementia. Yeah. I mean, as you and I are sitting here trying to rip darkness out of the movie because it’s fun to talk about sitting down and watching the movie. It’s a very charming experience. So that’s just, that’s just what we do on this podcast, you know.

But again, this movie would not exist if this, if the author did not see horrific dead bodies. But yeah, you know, that’s why the author simply Milne had to basically like transfer onto Christopher Robin. Because a 30 year old having 100 acre acre woods, that’s like ever that makes people go, you know, a 6 year old having their 100 acre wood, you’re like yeah, sure, of course. I used to do that. Oh, see now I kind of do want to see. I guess it’s public domain now, but I want to see like an adult war vet that is going into 100 acre woods and he’s still got like blood and dirt under his fingernails and he’s kind of coming down off of being shell shocked and they’re, they’re actually comforting him like they’re bringing him out of that.

Well as I. I’ll plug my Time Enough podcast and there is the, you know, Twilight Zone episodes getting that sort of thing. I’m thinking a miniature where I don’t think Robert Duvall’s character had necessarily been in a war or anything, but he was, you know, like mentally like, you know, he was socially awkward and he ends up like as a, a 35 year old man or whatever, 36 they always say in the Twilight Zone. He just falls into this dollhouse like at a museum. He keeps going to the museum and like just like falling into the world of this dollhouse and like that that’s the version of you know, someone too old having their 100 acre woods.

Well, and I mean that is what the author did is that he said that when he was coming up a lot of these stories that he would be going out into what the 100 acre woods were based on and just kind of like losing his thoughts in there and trying to forget some of the tragedies they. That kept like reminding him of normal life. Any other big threads you want to pull on? I’m just noting that we have now passed. We’ve been talking about the movie longer than the the movie actually lasted. Which is kind of.

That’s not a rule that we usually explain. No, it’s not a rule, but I usually don’t look at it before an hour and realize that I’m like hey, we’ve already talked about this than the movie went on. That’s amazing. Usually we have to at least an hour 20 before that happens. So. Yeah, so let Me get a couple of actual quotes from the author, from A.A. milne. How is it Milne? That’s why we keep saying the author, I think, where neither of us are confident about. So three quotes from Milne. The first two are from his autobiography called It’s Too Late Now, 1939.

And this is, this is directly in his own words. It was in 1919 that I found myself once again a civilian. For it makes me almost physically sick to think of that nightmare of the mental and the moral degradation, the war. And then in that same book, he’s talking about the actual Christopher Robin. He said, when my boy was six years old, he took me to the insect house of the zoo and the sight of the monstrous inmates. I had to leave his hand and hurry back to fresh air. I could imagine a spider or a millipede so horrible that in its presence I would die of disgust.

It seemed impossible to me now that any sensitive man could live through another war. If not required to die in other ways. He would waste the way of soul sickness. And then the last one was something that he cited in, in many different biographies after that, is that he was retelling a story about a younger soldier that was in his battalion. And the quote was, just as he was settling down to his tea, a shell came over him and blew him the pieces. So he, he was literally shell shocked. Like he saw a shell hit one of the.

The young soldiers that he was serving with and exploded all over the place as he was going to drink tea, I guess. So that was one of the images that he kept bringing up over and over again. Yeah, I guess that’s why you get such pleasant imagery here, though, when you’re mentioning the, the insect room and stuff. I was thinking about the honey song where the honey creatures become more and more bizarre until my note is like Lovecraftian honey creatures. I’m like, would Milan have been happy seeing those on screen? I don’t know. Those might have traumatized them.

I was, I was going more Kafka. Okay, that worked. That works better. Well, actually both work for the date, I guess, but yeah, sure, why not? I think. I think Kafka would be more at home in the 100 acre wood than H.P. lovecraft would. A conversation between Al and Kafka, that’d be fun. I think I. Oh, I got. Okay. Oh, I’m writing some completely pointless notes down here. Oh, and another good. Stuck in a well story, by the way. I was just thinking of Haruki Murakami’s the Wind Up Version Chronicles, which is about A guy getting stuck in his well.

So this isn’t a well, of course. This is the whole day themselves Dug. That’s another point. They get stuck in the hole of their own creation in this movie. So there’s a number I wasn’t prepared. I can come up with a list of decent movies about people getting stuck in holes. Like, it’s actually a fairly interesting motif to me at least. Yeah, that’s why I brought up the Murakami book. But yeah, I guess most of the problems on this are of their own creation, though. The bees are. Because Pooh is like, hey, piglet, go stick your head in a beehive.

It’s fine. Do it. Which of course that’s not fine. Don’t do that. And then immediately starts battering over it with a. With a 2×4. Whatever he had. So, yeah, they’re creating their own problems. They create. Well, actually, they don’t create the packs and do they shows up at the end. But until the final post credit scene, they basically created the backs. And that’s their problem. They created the trap. That’s their problem. They are creating their own problems. Are they creating their own reality? Well, I keep saying Christopher Robin’s creating the reality. They’re creating their own problems.

I guess Chris Robin would be creating their problems too, though. So I guess. I think these are not sentient characters. I think it’s all Christopher Robin just through Daddy Shell shot Daddy just, you know, like expressing different parts of his psyche through these characters. Which is why the psychological explanation comes out so much. Right. He wants to be poo. Right. It’s at least two levels of disassociation. One from father to son and then another from son to Winnie the Pooh as an expression of really the one of the father’s many different shattered aspects. Well, here’s what Pooh thinks about all of that talk.

Sorry, are there angry poos? It’s actually supposed to be his quizzical look from this movie when I bought it. This is a. If you’re listening, I have a little like sticks on your bag poo plushie. But yeah, the idea is it’s a shot from this movie. It had a paper tag. And it’s when he’s looking quizzically at maybe something Al said or it’s in the first 10 minutes in the movie. And. And. But they got it, like slightly wrong. And now he just looks pissed, which is why I bought it. I was like, yes, I want a pissed off looking poo.

That’s great. Well, everyone’s had an angry poo at one point or another. That’s right. Yeah. But you can. You can buy bigger ones too. But I didn’t go that crazy. So I think you get really big ones actually with angry poo. This one seems to kind of popular in Japan now. Supposed to be quizzical poo, but it comes out as angry poo, which is nice. Give me the biggest, angriest poo you got. Who does number two work for? Okay. Some other movies there we behaved ourselves for most of the episode. We’re allowed a few poo jokes at the end.

Yes. Oh, I also wrote near the end, just Al’s the kind of guy who re appropriates cultural relics. You know, kind of like how the British music. Oh yeah. We have all this Egyptian stuff and we know where it went now, don’t we? He’s the guy that put the first dinosaur skeleton together and named it. Yes, yes. So him having. What was he using Eeyore’s tail as to ring his bell or something? Yeah, And I mean Ed Gein, that’s basically what I think he actually represents. Well, if Eeyore is an actual donkey or is he. Or a donkey, what is Eeyore? Exactly? I mean, he’s a stuffed animal.

That’s my point. He’s a stuffed animal. So there’s just stuff and fluff that he’s put on his door. I mean, is owl just a stuffed animal? Yeah, that’s my point. They’re all stuffed animals. But we’ve never really seen stuffing come out of owl. No. Well, we’ve mostly just seen stuff and come out of poo because he’s too fat and his seams are not sewn properly. I don’t think we’ve seen that stuffing come out of Roux. He’s a stuffed animal for sure. We do see them all at the beginning of the movie as stuffed animals. Now actually should double check and make sure Al’s not like a taxidermy thing or something.

Or maybe there’s. There’s just an actual owl in the middle of the wood. Oh, that could be. Oh, they see, I’m looking at the movie again. Okay. Rue is a stuffed animal. Tigger. Because none of these other animals stuff would make sense in this forest. Who’s a stuffed animal? Actually, now that I’m scrolling, scrubbing through quickly. And I’m. I saw everybody but Al, but maybe I just missed them. Maybe Al just flies in through the window sometimes. I don’t know. There’s Eeyore, which means owl might be a real owl. Owl could be a. Okay, I will give you.

Now, I did not just sit there and watch the whole opening sequence. I was scrubbing through. But let’s at least throw on the table that Al could be a real owl. Yes, this. In which case, he should not be dipping his hand in the honey. He better hope he’s not in Canada or he get cold real fast. And if Al’s flying through the window, maybe that’s why he’s so, you know, confident about telling everyone about the outside world. But how much, you know, actual knowledge can you get from an owl? Isn’t this also how the movie Labyrinth starts? Yeah, pretty much.

Is David Bowie the owl in that movie? I don’t remember. I think he is. He’s like a snow owl. Yeah. Okay. Wow. If Al turned into David Bowie in this movie, that would have been impressive with the little crystal ball he’s constantly playing with. Yeah. Pooh. You do not know what you do. Changes accents or something. I don’t know. Yeah, yeah. I usually go through voices and stuff, which I didn’t do here because there wasn’t much point. It’s just the regular crew. It’s Jim Cummings, Backson. Oh, yes. At the end. Yes. Backson was voiced by Huel Hauser, a famous LA TV personality.

And this was his last thing because he died the year after. Anyway, if you’re in la, they’re all like, Hugh Hauser. We love him, but I. I from Georgia. So I don’t know that much about him. Maybe he was the cooler. Maybe it was a cooler. Yeah. Anyone else? Tom Kenny did Rabbit. He took over. Yeah. Honestly, there’s just not. John Cleese is a narrator. Sure. I guess so. Why not? If I could choose who would narrate my story, he’d be up there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He’s got. He’s got one of those voices. I mean, it’s him.

Or, you know, you get. If it’s a little more hardcore, you call Ian McClellan instead. Right. You know, that kind of thing. I think I’d go for rfk. Oh, what was. Oh, I just heard his voice being compared to McGruff the crime dog. May I guess if McGruff the crime dog had a horrible new poor and heroin addiction for most of his life. Yes. Okay. Anyway, I. That actually was giving me my plug today because I. I was just the. The McGruff the Crime Dog’s album Smart Kids from 1986 or so has been reissued with, like, ton bonus track.

So now you can. As opposed to hearing him do a Steely Dan jam about alcohol or a electro funk about inhalants. You can now hear him sing about hitchhiking and child molestation as well. Is this AI generated or is this, like, this is real stuff. Go on YouTube, look up McGruff the crime dog. Smart kids and have a field day. The thing is, a lot of the songs are like, really good. Like, they’re like, it’s like yacht rock or something. But then you got a guy singing like this on top. That’s why it’s my plug today.

That’s my plug. I already mentioned the Twilight Zone one earlier, so that. That’s my plug today. All right, I guess I’ll give a similar plug for a great animation based soundtrack. Simpsons Sing the Blues from I think the late 1980s is legitimately a great album where they’re all in character and they’re all singing the entire time. But I don’t know, like, it like Homer singing Born Under a Bad Sign is way better than it deserves to be. And there’s so many more examples of that. Oh, okay, I’m gonna have to look at that because that came out when I was about, like 10 years old.

And, you know, I’m just starting to get into like, actual music a little bit. Although I think. I think that was weird Al at that point, but still, like, Simpson, sing the blues that looks like garbage. Then do the Bart man with the single. And that was, I think seven. I was like, right in the. The perfect range for that to. To make sense to me. No, you’re just telling me because now I’m like, ooh, I bet I would love listening to that. It’s like turtles coming out of their shells. A stage show where you have like, splinters trying to like a Bruce Springsteen style ballad.

Well, there’s a song, I think it’s by Smithers and Mr. Burns. And even that one’s pretty good. It’s called, like, problem in sector 7G, which they’re talking about Homer, but man, again, the entire album is legitimately way better than it should have been. Okay, so anyways, our plugs today. My ends. McGruff the crime dog. Smart kids. Yours is Simpson Sing the Blues. So I’m happy with those today. I guess we can. When Christopher Robin dies, the Hundred Acre woods disappears. Yeah. American stickers. Cryptids, cults and killers. Killers. We got all your favorite conspiracies. All the better than one of sticker sheets.

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