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Summary

➡ Abby and the speaker discuss their humanitarian projects, which aim to bridge two levels of consciousness. They share their experiences in helping people understand their own power and potential, using simple language and concepts. They also mention their new training school that combines traditional psychotherapy and counseling with shamanic energy work. Lastly, they talk about their project, stepanearpower.com, a free platform that provides tools and support for personal growth and empowerment.
➡ The speaker has created an online school to train therapists, focusing on a blend of therapies to help people master their lives. The school emphasizes personal growth, empowerment, and setting boundaries. Unlike traditional therapy, the goal is to help clients become independent and self-reliant. The speaker also plans to provide ongoing support for graduates, helping them establish their practices and continue their professional development.
➡ The text discusses the importance of living in harmony with the land and the problems caused by overbuilding, such as in Ireland where excessive rain has nowhere to go due to concrete structures. It also highlights the unique perspectives and solutions offered by children, who are born into a different world and are not burdened by past traumas. The text further explores the role of art and creativity, emphasizing that these cannot be replaced by artificial intelligence. Lastly, it mentions the importance of focusing on vibrant health rather than disease, and the potential for systems to change and flourish.
➡ The text discusses the importance of cherishing and being present in the moment, valuing self-care, and practicing compassionate listening. It emphasizes the need to value our time and experiences, suggesting that when we invest in something, we are more likely to appreciate and engage with it. The text also highlights the significance of non-judgmental understanding and meeting people where they are. Lastly, it explores the concept of value in terms of monetary investment, suggesting that people tend to value things more when they pay for them.
➡ The speaker emphasizes the importance of generosity, openness, and intention in all actions. They discuss a large project they’re planning, which includes elements of art, healing, and building. They criticize the competitive and superficial nature of some social networks, advocating instead for authenticity, strength, and presence. They also discuss the need for beauty in our environments, and the potential for community projects to create change and restore beauty.
➡ It’s okay if you don’t know what your next project will be right now. After some time passes, you might suddenly realize what you want to do. Remember, everything happens at the right time.

Transcript

Hi, everybody. So Abby and I are here today, and we’re going to talk about projects. So humanitarian projects and the bridges to those humanitarian projects. How are you, Abby? I’m doing good. I’m doing good. It’s freezing in Ireland. I just put my heater on, so if I have to get out and make my heater lower, you’ll know in advance. Yeah, my heater’s on, too. Yeah, It’s. I would say it’s been like, almost 60 every day, so I don’t know what that is. Yeah. But it’s changing. I love the spring, though, because, you know, the flowers are starting to come up, so it’s making me happy.

That’s fun. Yeah. Oh, I wanted to bring something up before we get started on all of that humanitarian stuff. So you have an island near Ireland that only shows up every seven years. And immediately I thought of Wonder Woman and the Amazon island. Right. So fun. Yeah. And Tommy said that basically that island, they got rid of all the men, and they said the vampires had originated from there. So it makes sense. Like, there was only women on the island. The. The Wonder Woman island are the one in Ireland, because the one in Ireland, I think, is connected to Atlantis.

Yeah, I think they’re the same. Wow. Yeah. So you guys go look that up and see if you want to show on that, because I think that would be so fun. It would be fun. And it. It reminds me of something that Mark Atwood always says about the 12 layers of black magic being placed over Ireland more than any other country, you know, that we know of. I’m pretty sure there’s a lot of black magic placed in other countries, but I think that we. We haven’t started to reveal all the hidden stuff here. Well, and it’s because there’s so such a connection to nature and the fae.

Yeah. In Ireland. So the natural world and the natural magic. Definitely. So, yeah, I love that. So fun. So you have a bridge project, and I think we should talk about that. And I have one, too, but I want to hear about yours, because it’s really important right now that we either are creating something or thinking about what we’re going to create. I think so, too. And even before I talk about the bridge project, I’ll talk about what a bridge is in case people don’t know. It’s bridging two worlds, two levels of consciousness. So I’ll give you a really brilliant example, because I was at a solicitor’s this morning to sign a document, and she’s like a solicitor, old system Traditional.

And we were talking about, you know, spring and it’s light and it’s great to see the sun coming back. And she says to me that, you know, being depressed and being anxious because of the lack of light, needing to get medication. And then she says medication is pretty good, you know, to help you through those moments where you, you know, you’re going to hit a lower level. And I said, no, I don’t like medication at all. And then I was able to talk to her about your soul. And I said about my school, which I’ll tell you about.

And I said about you losing pieces of your soul and that depression. I said it’s on a spectrum where deep dark depression is your scraped out and you’ve got nothing left and going through different levels of anxiety and up to melancholy and all of that is you losing pieces of yourself to other things. And that you can call those pieces back and over time they stick. If you look after yourself well, I mean, obviously if you don’t, I mean, I even told her this is if you, if you like the house and if you’re a messy house and you’re always doing drugs and you’re always, you know, these pieces will not want to stay with you, they just won’t stay.

But if you’re nice and you’re comfortable and you know, you look after yourself, you value yourself and you treat yourself well, then these pieces will come back and you won’t be depressed for very long. And she heard me and she understood. And then I told her about my, my new training school which is blending psychotherapy and counseling, which is the traditional alongside the shamanic energy work together. And then I said, because we’re multi dimensional and you can talk and talk and talk, but it’s not going to actually heal anything. And she got it. And it was so exciting to see this person in a solicitor’s office who understood.

And so that’s the bridge to bring people more into the truth of who they are. Because if you just go in there and talk about the solar achievable piece, they won’t really understand it. But putting it in context and wrapping it with the traditional. But you know, as we know, we’re all going through this evolution of our consciousness and I think more people are seeing it’s being seeded into the television shows, being seeded into, you know, the stuff that we’re seeing online as well. So the concepts that I spoke about, maybe in different language, she would have known what they were.

You know, it’s, it’s really interesting. So Fun as well, to see somebody lighting up and going, oh, my goodness. So then I was able to give her links to really short soul retrieval meditation exercises that I have on SoundCloud for free. And I said, just have a listen to them and see, you know, how you feel. And she might even come and join us next year, who knows? Yeah, yeah. I mean, you were probably part of her own awakening, right? And yeah, how we present that is really important too. How you can you feel into what that person would actually comprehend.

The level of language, meeting them at the level that they are. Yeah, it’s really important. And we have a lot of layers. And I’m looking at my organite pyramid, sounds like it’s so far away, but there’s all these layers, and we’re in a big timeline with many, many layers. And some people are on the bottom layer, but they’re still in the timeline, you know, so explaining things to them in a way that makes sense so that they can keep evolving, that’s so important. It really, really is. It is. And what’s interesting to me is when I talk about dreams as a way that our subconscious mind speaks to our conscious mind.

So that’s putting the language on it of, you know, traditional. And then you can say, well, you can use visualizations where you are conducting, let’s say, the images of a dream that you’re doing in Wide Awake, and you send it down to the subconscious. So then you’re talking back in images and that works. And that’s like a shamanic journey. So you can become the anchor for your own energy when you take control over your sovereignty. And all of these words are beginning to be more common in. In language now. So that I say to people, are you going to just let the breeze, you know, come through you and knock you over? And you’re putting your power into everything outside of you.

It’s like wearing your lucky shirt every day because good stuff happened when you wore it. And then you start to become afraid to take off your shirt because you’re putting your power into the shirt, you said, but you’re putting your power into the shirt. It’s all you. Take your power out of the shirt. You can wear any shirt you like. Your power is here with you right now, you know, so, so true. Then I think what’s really been going on as we wake up out of the conditioning and the systems taking everybody’s power away from them, People don’t know that they’re allowed to be powerful, and they don’t know what to do.

With their power. So that’s why I think these bridge, you know, projects, for want of a better word, are very important to teach people you are powerful. And just because you have your power with you does not mean you’re going to go kill everybody with it. You could build something amazing with that, but you need to be able to hold it. It needs to stay with you. And to even to know that that’s a thing is a big thing. It’s so important right now. And that actually it like bridges into my projects, which is stepanear power.com so and that is like a communication place to come together, to feel supported, to have tools and to be yourself, you know, And I think that’s really important right now.

And there’s a lot of tools in there. There’s a lot of different things going on. And we’ve been able to keep it free. So it’s not free for us like we’re paying for it, but it is free for the community. And there are things that are offered, you know, that actually help pay for the community, which is beautiful. But that’s another thing that’s going on is it’s time to start to gather in person, which that app will allow you to do, because you can find people local to you. But it’s also time to look inside and think about your own being and what is in the way of your own being, what is not helping you, you know, and some of that might be like the fear of abandonment you’ve self abandoned.

You know, there’s all these different things that people have done because we’ve been taught to do it. And now we’re coming out of that and we’re saying, oh, well, I was taught to do that, but that’s not actually good for me. Yeah. So I’m not going to be doing that anymore. And stepping into your power is what I would call stepping into your sovereignty, you know, so I’m really grateful with, you know, that I’m doing this and I have two partners and I’m really grateful that you’re doing what you’re doing because we’re going to need a lot of healers that really know what they’re doing in the future.

Yeah. Tell everyone. What I’m doing is I’ve created an online school to teach people how to become therapists and blending lots of different therapies together to create what I call life Mastery therapy. So you become the master of your life. And unlike other therapy schools, I make my practitioners do their inner work. So you have to be Brave and courageous if you want to come and work with me. But it doesn’t stop there. So you do your inner work and it’s all guided and supported by me. And as the school grows, we will have therapists to support students as they go through this.

And then you’re going to bring your clients through similar processes. And I will teach you how to do psychotherapy, how to do counseling skills, how to do mindfulness, shamanic journeying, and blend the shamanism energy clearing with the psychotherapy and end up becoming a really safe space where you feel held as you hold other people, as they discover how powerful they are. And the whole premise is the opposite of what I was trained. Yeah. When I was trained as a psychotherapist, we were trained that our clients are babies and they need to be held, and I’m not doing that.

And my school, everything is all about empowerment. So your clients need help and they need to learn how to stand on their own two feet. So you can hold somebody’s hand over a difficult period of their lives. But all the time, you’re building them a scaffolding and a structure so that they can stand for themselves, that they’re not dependent on their therapist. And if you think about therapy and you know what? Really hate this, you know, and you say, I don’t hate anything. My husband is like, we don’t hate stuff. I’ll tell you what I hate.

I hate with a passion how Hollywood portrays therapists. And you see it in all the TV shows, totally unethical, all the codependency where everybody needs the therapist. I saw a TV show where the therapist brings the at home and the client moves in with them and lives with them. And I think the client was a sex addict, right. And the therapist had a young daughter. It’s like, why are you bringing a sex. Oh, he’s gonna feel better. You know, it’s just drives me crazy. So, no, I teach boundaries and my therapists will have really good, strong boundaries for themselves.

But in holding those boundaries, it mirrors for the client. And then the client learns how to set better boundaries in there life. And I’m really excited because I’m not just like gonna teach my students and stop. I provide supervision which no other holistic therapy is doing. But it’s a standard for psychotherapy because, you know, you’re gonna see all these clients, you’re gonna get upset, something’s gonna, you know, jar you or something’s gonna happen, and you just need to tell someone. So we’re gonna have a community of People which will go on after the training is over and you can continue to come to supervision, which is kind of what I was setting up with you all those years ago.

We did the lightworker peer support for a while. That’s kind of vision I had. But that kind of turned into personal therapy, and that’s not what I’m doing here. So it really fits the structure of my school a lot better, where the therapists can go out and do their work and know they have a place to come back and be supported and have, you know, healer for healers is really important there because there’s so many people in the world, honey. There really is so many people in the world. And we need as many good professional therapists as.

As there are people, you know. So that’s really my calling, is to create a really strong foundation and structure and then just have students coming and coming and coming and graduating and supporting other students and having. Having websites too, so that when they come to me after they finish their training, we. We will be able to get them clients. So, you know, help them set up in practice, help them set up their business as well, which is something I was never taught. So, you know, I’m literally giving every single thing that I own, everything I’ve learned, everything that I know is going into this school because I don’t want to hide.

I’m not the kind of person. So that I have a secret and I’m keeping it. And if you want it, you can pay me 10,000 dol dollars. I can’t do that. No, no. And that’s been the way of the guru in the past, which, you know, we’re going away from gurus now. We’re just having teachers and I wanted to talk about. So we also do what’s called ascension mastery. And we’re teaching how to go within. But then also, and this is for projects, how to do your own project or your own business. But if you have somebody that’s in our timeline and they’re on this layer, they’re on this little golden layer, let’s say that’s your solicitor, right? And you’re on this layer up here or up here, then having that conversation with them brings them up in here, and then they can move further and further and further up.

And that’s kind of what we’re doing right now, is if you have a timeline that looks like a layer cake, we’re allowing ourselves to impact all the way to the bottom layer. Can I talk about that for a minute? Can you hold it back? Up again, because for people watching, do you see the bottom layer? The gold layer is kind of clear and the orange layer is clear, but then there’s all this bunch of stuff in the middle. And so the reason why some people don’t want to do the work is because you have to wade through all that difficult, awkward stuff to come out to the top where there’s hardly a, you know, and that’s why as well, the pyramid, because there’s less people up there that are doing it.

So you can lead a relatively comfortable life below all that stuff in that bottom layer, but you’re not going to get any further than that. And then that’s your life. And is this what you signed for? And people like me and Honey don’t sign up for that, you know, and so we’re making those bridges. That makes it easier to go through all of that grunge and heaviness, but they still have to do it themselves. So it’s perfect symbol there. Beautiful. Beautiful. Yeah. Madeline gave me this. I didn’t mean for you to be my tada lady standing there.

No, I love it. I love. Well, and I love this. And thank you, Madeline, for the pyramid. It really is a great illustration because we’re in all of these layers right now and we’re clearing them and there’s a whole new group of awakened people. And they’re at the very beginning of their awakening because they’ve decided to go through ascension. Right. And that’s who we’re creating these projects for. So these two projects are the bridge projects, but the other projects are going to be humanitarian, more in person projects. And there’s certain things that are really important. So for me, keeping hierarchy out is really important.

So each section of my project, because I have three big sections, will have three managers in that section. So that three people have to figure out what’s going to be happening. And neither, none of them are better than the other. And we all have like different gifts right now that we’re. We’re really creating. So I’m creating a project with someone who has gifts for that kind of project, for the communication, for bringing people together and having, you know, these little pockets of communication. And Abby has this beautiful project that has to do with healers, you know, so think about what your gifts are and what you want to bring to the world, because nobody’s got exactly the same gift.

So all the passion. Yeah, yeah. So Honey, and my. Our passion is personal growth, development. But someone else’s passion could be environmental cleaning up. And those projects are really important because you can have all the people. But then if the environment is shit, I’m going to do that. We need to do, like, cleaning up pollution projects. We need to start building houses in relationship with the land as opposed to just where we decide we want to build a house. Because that’s the old pattern is let’s just put it here because it’s pretty say, yeah, but that’s where the land soaks up the rain.

And now it not can’t do that because there’s all concrete there. That’s what’s happening in Ireland at the moment. We’ve had huge amount of rain. All the rain has nowhere to go because the mountains have houses and concrete on them now, and roads. So, you know, learning how to live in relationship with each other, learning how to live in relationship with the land, you know. And I think some other people might be interested in projects with children because a lot of the children are hitting the ground running. They’re born above all those layers when they come in, you know, and so the parents have to rise up in order to hold the kids.

But the kids are born in those layers. I know that with my own kids. And they see things in a different way and they’re making solutions and things that don’t exist yet and thinking in a totally different way than us, which is just so exciting. Really is. Yeah. They’re gonna carry the new world into, like, such a further frequency, such a higher frequency, because they are not forgetting who they are. Yeah. So they’re gonna have a totally different kind of impact. And our impact was to clear things up and create the foundation for them to, like, fly, basically.

So they’re not. They’re gonna know what their past lives were. They’re gonna know. And some of them won’t. A little bit older, but they’ll be able to figure that out. And their intention is so important because they’re already vibrating at a higher frequency. So what they’re doing is they’re breaking up all the old frequency. And what I’ve noticed is when a baby comes in, everybody shifts. Everybody changes. The parents change, the grandparents. Like, everybody’s shifting because the baby’s like, I’m not having any of the trauma. I don’t accept it. So figure it out. So they’re like the biggest healer that pops in to the family.

It reminds me, isn’t there a meme of somebody holding, like, a shield and they’re being attacked, but they’re stopping it? And then the kids are free to go and do what they want? And that’s. Our generation is doing that. We’re breaking all those chains and stopping the ancestral pain and transforming it. Instead of saying, oh, you’re going to inherit all of this stuff, which is what traditional medical systems are trying to teach you. Well, if your grandparent was tortured, then you’re going to be carrying that in your DNA. No, we need to be teaching. You can transform anything because you are powerful.

And that message needs to radiate out so much louder than all the other ones. And the kids aren’t even listening to the old messages. I mean, I’m looking at my kids and they’re just totally not interested. They’re doing their own thing. They’re. They’re having fun. They’re creating stuff. They’re making movies, you know, they’re playing music. They’re interested in reading proper paperback books. Not the ones, the electronic books my daughter plays on the piano. You know, they want to buy vinyl and they hate all the AI stuff. They just won’t have it. And it’s really interesting to me to see, you know, that they want to hold things, touch things, and they really value meeting up in real life and spending time with people, you know, it’s lovely.

It is. It’s lovely to see it. Well, and that’s what the culture is going back to. So will you use AI? Probably. Will you be addicted to it? No, you won’t. And that is kind of what’s going to go on. Like, you’ll use AI as your business assistant and you’ll use it to maybe create things that you need for that, but you won’t use it to help your personal, you know, thing, especially if you’re younger, because they’re going to let go of the addiction to all of this. Oh, yeah, Let go of it. Yeah. And. But I’ve noticed that when you set your intention to let go of it, I mean, I left home three times last week and I forgot my phone and I needed to go back and get it because it has my calendar on it and I needed my calendar, you know.

Right. But yeah, it’s like the AI is to support us. It’s not to do the creativity for us. You know, if they had invented an AI that would clean the house, do the laundry and the dishes, that would be great. Let it do it. But it’s not going to write my books for me. It’s not going to paint the paintings. You know, we are. We put soul into our work. That’s why a lot of artists actually have trouble selling their paintings, because they Put so much of themselves into it, they can’t let them go. You know, you actually have to do a soul retrieval from your craft.

Pull yourself out of it before you can. You can sell it. So it’s. Yeah, it’s interesting. And it’s all the kind of things that when we start to teach this and people understand this, then we can flourish more. How often do you hear in mainstream those words, flourishing, vibrant health? You don’t. You hear all about disease, dis ease. You know, they want you to put money into researching dis ease instead of researching vibrant health. I’ve always noticed that. So, yeah, yeah. And that’s part of the program which is dying right now. The programs are dying. The systems are starting to break apart.

And you can see that there’s, like an infiltration. And these files that have come out, they are like the water that breaks all these systems down. And that’s just going to keep going. So it’s going to get more and more interesting. But the main thing is, is that you’re thinking about what you’re doing. And like. So I have a book coming out that’s not mine, it’s my father’s book, and it has a piece of his painting on it. And that’s what he asked for. He said, just take a picture of a piece of my painting and put it on the front of the book.

And it’s called Dreams and Things, and it’s actually all poetry. And that’s been really hard to format, you know, but finally it’s. I think we’re getting the format correct. But there was also a lot of resistance there because he never wanted to sell his stuff. So a lot of, you know, it was his. He loved it, he cared about it. And towards the end of his life, he said, I’m ready. I’m ready to release that now. I think I’m finally done with my work. So it. That allowed him to go. And I think that’s important, too.

And we also need to think about, if you are an artist, like this one behind me, that’s yellow, and the one above it, These are prints from people that have learned how to make money with their art by selling the print. And I think that’s important too, because then you can give it out to more people. More people can enjoy the beauty and the energy that is you, you know, and when you make something, it’s like you are giving a piece of your consciousness away. And that’s why people are now attracted to, oh, I really like this person.

I’m gonna Buy something from them. Yeah. You know, and that’s what it’s going to be like. If your customer resonates with your energy, that will be a customer for life. Probably. Painting there. Yeah. Is an actual painting, not a print from an Irish artist who grinds up crystals and puts them in the paint. So. And can you see it? It’s Archangel Raguel. And so that frequency is in my sat. My room holding the frequency for me, you know, so art is really important. It’s really important. I want to turn this because there’s a. Excuse my messy house here, that right there, the one with the big wooden frame, like there’s.

It’s a smaller painting. So one of them is my painting and then the other one is another angel. And it’s an original. And it’s really funny that you have an original angel picture and so do I. I think that they’re coming back to consciousness right now, the angels, you know. Yeah, the angels, like the. All the work that they’ve done for humanity is just like beyond. They’ve done so much for humanity and to have one, you know, that is a physical representation in an original. Yeah, that’s so fun. I’ve noticed that. I find from time to time it’s like they step back from us because we have to step in more and do it for ourselves.

But then it’s like they will come in and say, you’re doing great, or they will open something up for us, you know, it’s. It is, it’s wonderful. It really is. Well, they’re very busy right now because a lot of people are leaving and I’ve been seeing in the chats, you know, my. My 90 year old parent is getting ready to leave. Can you pray for them? Can you send energy for them, you know, so that they have a good transition and the angels are all for it. Like they’re just, you know, they already have their own.

But you’ll have like a swarm of angels come in to help that person transition right now. And it’s a very interesting time. You know, as you’re speaking there, I’m feeling, you know, it would be wonderful to have projects in the world that would dismantle all of the conditioning around death and dying so that we celebrate the person as they leave that, you know, bring back the sacredness. I did say I don’t hate very many things and that I said I hate the way Hollywood portrayed. But there is something else that I hate which is the sacred moments of a family.

I’ve probably said this before. Let’s say that the kids have wanted a puppy for years. And the parents come home with a puppy in a box and they film their kids opening the box and they’re crying with joy and happiness. And then those go on tick tock and Instagram and YouTube and go viral and everyone’s like, oh my God, isn’t it? That’s so cute. But you’ve lost the sacredness of the moment that, the power, you know, and those kids didn’t give permission, really. They don’t understand that 20 years later, oh, you’re the guy with the puppy.

You know that keeping these sacred moments sacred, that spending even, even time with a cup of tea and just slowing down and being in the moment to have that new appreciation brings a higher frequency to everything you do. Yeah, you know, it really does. It’s, it’s amazing. And these are all things that people who are like bridge people can understand. You know, If I was to say to my solicitor that I met this morning, if you have a cup of coffee with yourself, even just once a week, where you focus completely on the coffee, the taste of the coffee, the shape of the mug, meeting yourself, where you are, asking yourself how you are, what you need, you know, looking at how you’re treating yourself, they get that you can, you know, and it’s like, okay.

And then, then I would say something like, make an actual appointment in your calendar to do this. It doesn’t cost anything. No. And then you’re steeping in it. You’re like steeping in your self care and in your joy. Which we’ve really started to figure out that joy is okay again. Oh, it’s important. Yeah, it’s so important. But for a long time we were like, I don’t know, you know, what, what you’re experiencing. But we were thinking it was like, oh, we can’t have joy because all these bad things have happened. It’s guilty. Yeah, you feel guilty for joy, whereas joy is nourishment and time with yourself.

Like you say, steeping in its nourishment because you’re bringing yourself back into yourself. Yeah. Taking yourself out of your lucky shirt and it’s just a shirt. You take yourself out of the computer and it’s just a computer or out of the Internet and it’s just the Internet. And then you relish and cherish and make more sacred the time that you have because you can piss it away on tick tock all afternoon, you know, and not. Is that the kind of life you want? You have to make that choice. You Realize, and people still have trouble with this.

Not doing anything is a choice. Choosing to do something is a choice. And to become more aware of your choices. And I think, you know, in my therapy school, the backbone of everything we do is. Is compassionate listening, where you’re listening with compassion to the client as they talk about everything that’s happened. And even just in those moments where it’s slowed down and you’re met with compassion, you can see something or feel that you’ve been seen and people aren’t, you know, haven’t been doing that. It’s something so simple. You should, you know, come home to your partner and have a compassionate listening session.

Everybody should be doing that, you know, they’re not. No, I want to talk about me. No, I want to talk about me. And you never sit and listen. Actually listen with compassion. And it’s lovely to bring that back in. Yeah. It’s so important. And I think we’ve been taught not to listen, just to jump to the next thing. And if you can really sit and listen, you’re changing someone’s life right then. And if you can listen to yourself, you’re doing it for yourself because you’re allowing them to just be who they are and you’re not judging them.

That’s another thing that really is, like, on the verge of going, being pushed out is all the judgment, because there’s been a lot of judgment and just allowing people and observing people and kind of meeting them where they are in that moment and meeting yourself where you are without all that stuff attached that’s so big right now. I’d like to talk about value for a minute because we’ve been talking about compassionate listening, being seen, being heard. So somebody, I’m sure, is watching this, thinking, well, if you can just go home and be listened to by your partner, why would you want to pay somebody else to listen to you? And when I say to people, make an appointment in your calendar to sit down and have a coffee with yourself.

Right. They won’t do it, or they will. And then it gets overridden by something else that they feel is more important. Why? Because they’re not valuing that time. You know, so putting money where your mouth is, isn’t that an American cliche? If you put money in to value, you’re proving that you value something by paying somebody for that time. You’re going to show up. Yeah, you’re going to show up for that time, and you’re going to use that time. You’re going to slow down and be present for every single minute of that time, because you’ve paid for that.

And what do you get in return for your money? Is that feeling that you’re looking for all the time? All the time. And so I mean I’ve run the most powerful online, let’s say a ten day course or a three week course. And where I want to give it away, I’ve had a thousand people come, I’ve had an online class for a thousand people. And when you look at your analytics, how many people actually open the emails? How many people click the links? Less than 10% did it because it was free. But when I had a high ticket cost, you know, everyone showed up, everybody did the work.

So until that paradigm is broken, until people value the time without needing that money, you’re going to need the money to pay for that. That’s, that’s, that’s my take. What do you think? Well, I think it’s really important because what I’ve noticed is the if I do something for free, which I do a lot of stuff for free, and information, I’m constantly giving out information but it’s not as seen. Like a lot of times people are very engaged with that and I love that. But when I do something and it costs more for the person then they’re completely engaged and if they miss a PDF, they’re like, I can’t find the PDF, I really wanted that.

I really need it for my work that I’m doing on myself. So then, you know, I send them the PDF and a lot of times my PDFs just so you guys know, they download immediately. So when you can’t find them, they’re usually in your computer already. But just a little techie thing. But even with the projects, as you think about your own project, you know, ask the project, how much should I charge for this service? How will it be the most beneficial to the project and to the person who’s coming to learn something? Because if you do give it away for free, then it’s not valued.

And until we stop using money completely, that will probably be the case. It won’t be as valued if there’s not some sort of exchange going on. Yes, energy exchange. Yeah. So when I have my students in my school and they are doing practice sessions, the value that they get there, so they’re going to offer a free session to their family or friends so that they get practice in exchange for the therapy. And that’s the trade off. And you know, and then when we graduate to working with people who are not family and Friends, but we’re still not charging because they’re still in training.

The trade off is, you know, that they’re in training. So you’re not going to bring your big trauma to them, but you’re going to get some relief and some, you know, but you then have to give feedback after the session as part of it. And if you feel you got a really good session and you want to give them a little gift, buy them a coffee, you know, that’s up to the client, then they can do that. But, you know, so the value is an exchange. Yeah, yeah, it’s so important. I mean you can do it, pay it forward as well.

When we’re talking about value, like you know, pay, paying for somebody’s coffee before they come to, you know, just, just being generous. I think I was just telling my friend there that we went out for dinner for my mom. It was you. I was telling for dinner for my mom. And I just paid for everybody because it was my mom’s birthday and it just felt good to do that and I just paid for everybody. And that’s being open and not expecting anyone to pay back anything. But it comes back in other ways. So putting it out there and receiving, being open to receive as well is really important.

And really thinking about the intentions behind everything that we do is so important. You know, when I talk to my project because I have this big in person project planned, I’ve. I’m constantly thinking about would this person want to be involved in that project? They’re amazing, you know, and I’m, I’ve been paying someone to work out the different, you know, layouts of this place, where it’s going to be and to think about the different aspects of the project because one part of it is going to be art and all the arts. So whether it’s music, dance or painting, all of them will be represented there.

One is healing, so practicing healing and learning how to heal in whichever way that you want. And then the other one is about building and making things for your home, for your. Building your home. Finding different ways to do things, creating free energy. So those kind of things are going to be really big and different aspects of those will go out. You know, I know that we’ll be visiting each other’s projects and we’ll be helping with each other’s things that we’re doing and giving advice. And maybe one of those three managers will be a traveling manager.

You know. You know what it is, honey, that we’re not. You know how I was saying earlier I’m not withholding any information. I’m not charging $10,000 for the one secret that’s going to make you a successful therapist. We don’t think that way. That’s the old paradigm. So we’re willing to visit each other’s projects and get expertise and advice and share just for the joy of being able to see somebody else doing well, you know, to celebrate each other. There was a time when I used to go networking to these women’s networks and oh my God, the jealousy.

And everybody was. Had to look pretty and you wearing your dress and your pretty shoes and don’t talk to her because she’s this. And you have to appear to be better than somebody else. And like, I couldn’t do it. That’s not me. That’s not where we’re going. We’re going, you know, we show up. Come as you are. Open heart, compassionate listening, sharing and being in our power means that it’s like the bee comes to you and you’re the flower. Instead of you having to go out to all of these people and beg them for business. No, they come to you because you are there.

You’re present and you’re strong. And there’s always going to be business to be done. There just is. Yeah. And they can feel your energy. They’re just so attracted to it, you know, and creating something beautiful is, you know, that’s going to help, I would say, bring people in. Making yourself look a certain way, I don’t think that matters at all. But making it comfortable for people, making their, you know, places for people to sit and to communicate with each other. Making, putting food in your project, you know, asking around and finding somebody that can make beautiful food and having them there part of the day, you know, those kind of things.

Think about it as a. A really beautiful, well rounded project for area, if that’s what you’re thinking about. Maybe you’re just going to grow hemp and create something amazing with that. That’s totally a wonderful project. There’s a lot of things that we’re getting ready to do and some of it is cleanup, like a cleanup project. Some of it is building homes for people who don’t have one. There will be a. Probably a lot of homes in the future that are not being utilized. Some of it might be taking down some of those homes that are no longer relevant.

And especially in the US where everything is made of wood and insulation and chalk, basically drywall. I don’t really see that we’re going to want those kind of homes permanently. So that will start to shift, you know, and in the cities, I don’t think they’re going to be as big. They’re going to shrink, and there’s going to be green space where food is grown. So there’s a lot of change, but we’re the change makers. So being willing to be there. Yeah. Part of the gorilla gardening guys who go around just planting flowers everywhere because beauty. I mean, we talked already about joy and how we were turned against joy because it’s something bad.

And it’s not. Because joy is probably one of the most powerful frequencies that you can manifest something in. But beauty connects you to God. Beauty reminds you that God exists. And that is why they’ve eliminated so much beauty from building and environments, because they don’t want you to go, oh, my gosh, look how wonderful this is. And this place is wonderful. And thank you, whoever created. You know, they don’t want you to be feeling that way. So we need projects to bring back the beauty, you know, whatever that looks like. We really do. Yeah. You know, not.

Not artificial beauty, you know, pure, true beauty. You look at the way the buildings are, you’re talking about it. That reminds me of a song. Little boxes, little boxes Everybody living in boxes and everybody’s life is bland and gray and they all go home to their little boxes and do it again tomorrow. We don’t want to live like that anymore. No. I think a lot of the brutalist architecture will go, and some of it’s actually covering up Tartarian architecture. Like a wall will start to fall down, and then there’s bricks and there’s something beautiful behind it.

So we have the most beautiful shopping mall in Dublin on Grafton Street. I don’t think I brought you there. It’s called Stevens Green Shopping center, and it looks like the inside of a clock when you go inside. And it’s all glass and escalators, and it’s just unbelievable. It’s fabulous. And they want to just knock it all down and build something awful and plain and ordinary and wooden that looks like a sail of a boat or something. Something. And it’s just so bland. And what I love is that the community has risen up and said no. And they’ve blocked it more than once in, you know, the planning office.

And they’ve won, but they keep pushing. They keep pushing. And I think this, this. This shopping mall is one of the most beautiful things in that area. And it’s like, no, it’s too good. You can’t have this. There’s no reason to change It. It’s just. It’s absolutely fantastic. Just as it is so wasting all the time and the money to try and turn something into blandness. It’s. It’s. You know, so we have to take our energy out of those things and say no to this. We’re not doing it. We’re going to keep with the beauty. We’re going to bring in the light.

Yeah. Because that’s what we all want. It’s what we want. I think that’s a great spot to end and think about the beauty and bring it in to your own life. And then when you’re doing your projects or you’re doing your business, think about how you can make it more beautiful. And listen with compassion. Give yourself. I love that. That. What did you call it? That. You know, the nourishment. The. It’s like steeping. That’s what you said. Oh, yeah. Steeping in it. Steeping. As the tea is steeping in your cup. You can steep in that beautiful energy and remember who you are and that you can do these things.

You absolutely can. You might not know how, but you can. And if you need inspiration, go and join Honey’s community, because that’s. That’s what I think you guys are doing there. Yeah. So if you don’t know how, but you have an idea to come and join Honey’s community and. And talk to other. Other people and get inspired. And if you want to be a healer, come and join my school. Yes. Yeah, absolutely. Do what moves you and really honor you and know that we love you. I’m so excited for all of you guys. Like, with the audience that I have right now, I think about all the beauty that’s in there and all of the amazing things that you guys are getting ready to do.

I’m so excited. And some of you guys are doing stuff already. They are. And even just coming through those layers, like in Honey’s pyramid, and just being there and not even doing anything but being there, you’re holding that space for everybody else. So even if you’re not feeling like you need to make a project just now and you don’t even know what a project for you would look like right now, it doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter because you’ve done your work and you’re up there and you’re holding that space and you might just wake up in a few months, month’s time, and some astrology has passed and some clouds have opened up and you’re just going to wake up and smell the air.

And go, oh, yeah, now I know what I want to do, you know? So open to that possibility as well. Yeah. Everything comes in divine timing, so. All right, well, love you guys. Thank you so much. Abby, this was beautiful. Thank you, honey. I always love talking with you. So fun. Bye, everybody.
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