LETS TALK 20

Jordan and Logan, two friends and business partners, discuss their experiences in business and personal growth. They talk about the importance of investing in oneself and following one’s passion. Jordan shares about his university, which teaches people how to create their own businesses and monetize their passions. They also discuss the importance of understanding one’s purpose in life and the role of entertainment in our lives.
The text discusses the importance of being genuine and expressing your true feelings without fear of judgment. It encourages embracing chaos and responding to it positively, as this can lead to personal growth and inspire others. The text also emphasizes the need to focus on personal expansion and consciousness, rather than getting caught up in societal debates and fear. Finally, it criticizes traditional education systems and suggests creating alternatives that avoid negative experiences and promote efficient learning.
The text discusses the inevitable shift towards digital currencies and the potential for technology to significantly alter our lives, including the possibility of reversing aging. The author encourages embracing these changes, such as learning about cryptocurrencies, rather than resisting them. They also mention how advancements in technology could lead to new societal norms and status symbols. The author concludes by urging people to adapt to these changes, as resistance may lead to difficulties in the future.
The speaker discusses their changing perspective on wearing masks during the pandemic, initially viewing it as a sign of weakness but later seeing it as a form of adaptability. They also talk about the importance of being prepared for future challenges, embracing chaos, and using it as an opportunity for growth. They emphasize the value of building and creating, and share their excitement about a project they’re working on, which they see as a starting point for future endeavors. The speaker encourages listeners to find what they’re good at and pursue it passionately, regardless of monetary gain, to achieve a state of flow and fulfillment.
This discussion emphasizes the importance of seeing challenges as opportunities, not complaints. It encourages personal growth and self-awareness, suggesting that over-analyzing can hinder progress and enjoyment in life. The conversation also touches on the idea of patterns and how they can become boring when they’re predictable, using the example of chess. Lastly, it introduces the concept of Chat GPT’s Architect, a tool that mirrors your ideas back to you, promoting self-reflection and understanding.
The discussion revolves around the idea that powerful individuals and groups have been using advanced technology, like AI chatbots, to predict and control societal outcomes for a long time. The speakers suggest that this technology, which is now accessible to the public, has been used to run simulations and scenarios to influence society’s direction. They also discuss the concept of life as a simulation and the potential misuse of technology, including planned product obsolescence by companies like Apple. The conversation ends with a reflection on the potential dangers of autonomous AI and the balance between societal control and individual freedom.
The text discusses the role of technology, particularly AI and robotics, in improving our lives and safety. It suggests that as jobs are replaced by robots, it will reduce workplace injuries and improve quality of life. The text also explores the concept of ‘flow state’, suggesting that we need to adapt and find our purpose in this changing world. It further discusses the potential of AI in various fields, like cooking, and the limitations it currently has in areas like customer service.
The text discusses the transition between different astrological ages, such as Aries, Pisces, and Aquarius, and how these shifts impact religion and society. It also explores the potential implications of the Age of Aquarius, including advancements in technology like AI. The conversation ends with a discussion about the importance of staying focused and committed during uncertain times, and the anticipation of future developments in the coming year.
Hi everyone, thank you for joining Jordan and me, Logan, from Waters Above for our 20th discussion. We appreciate your time and look forward to seeing you again soon.
The speaker discusses the importance of sharing ideas with a small, action-oriented community and the energy that comes from it. They talk about the challenges of decoding world events and the impact it can have on people’s perceptions of reality. They also mention the distractions and polarization caused by the overload of information and opinions in the world, emphasizing the need for balance and focus. Lastly, they highlight the importance of pursuing passion and responsibilities, even in challenging times, and the value of collaboration and inspiration in overcoming obstacles.
The text discusses the idea that not everyone is meant to be wealthy in a monetary sense, but rather, people are coded for different forms of abundance such as relationships and skills. It emphasizes the importance of self-knowledge and breaking free from societal expectations and old patterns. The text also highlights the value of diversity in interests and skills among people, comparing it to the need for different roles in building a house or creating a band. Lastly, it suggests that the pursuit of business, rather than money, is a more empowering and truthful goal.
The text emphasizes the importance of learning from others, regardless of their profession or status, and appreciating their unique skills and passions. It also discusses the value of disruption and the power of expressing one’s truth without fear. The text further delves into the significance of chess pieces and their correlation to individuals, using the speaker and Bobby Fischer as examples. Lastly, it encourages honesty and transparency in relationships to avoid complications and misunderstandings.
The speaker discusses the concept of being “uncancellable” by being open about one’s flaws and past mistakes. He criticizes people who try to dig up dirt on others for personal gain, and uses the example of a YouTuber who faced backlash after hiding his use of performance-enhancing drugs. The speaker emphasizes the importance of honesty and integrity, and suggests that trying to maintain a false image can lead to a stressful and unfulfilling life. He also touches on the idea that striving to be the best can lead to unnecessary competition and pressure.
The text discusses life as a series of build-ups and climaxes, comparing it to watching a TV series or climbing a mountain. It suggests that the journey or process is more important than the end goal or ‘climax’. It also discusses the concept of happiness, suggesting that chasing happiness can lead to unhappiness, and that people should instead focus on living life fully. The text ends by emphasizing the importance of finding your passion and doing what you love, and the need for mental detoxes to clear out chaos and find purpose.
The text discusses the value of mental detox methods like silent retreats and meditation, questioning if they are truly beneficial or just tools of Eastern spiritualism. It also explores the idea of how we would adapt if the internet was removed from our lives, suggesting that we might need to find new ways to live and express ourselves. The text ends with a discussion about the inevitable advancement of technology, including self-driving cars and nanotechnology, and how we need to prepare for these changes.
The speaker discusses a theory that the global elite are using nanotechnology and artificial clouds to protect humanity from a potentially harmful sun. They suggest that this could be a necessary measure for our survival, rather than an evil plot. The speaker also talks about the transition from the Age of Pisces to the Age of Aquarius, and how this shift is reflected in our move from paper to blockchain technology. They believe that the rise of AI and deep fakes presents opportunities for individuals to stand out with their own unique creations.
AI technology is advancing rapidly, creating realistic videos and even diagnosing health conditions. Self-driving cars are becoming more common, increasing productivity during commutes. However, this shift towards digitalization is causing problems for traditional businesses like Google and printers. As we transition into this new era, businesses will need to adapt to survive.

All right, ladies and gentlemen, code breakers around the world. Here we are again. Jordan and Logan back at it to. Let’s talk number 20. This is, this is number 20. Jordan and I, ladies and gentlemen. This is. It always happens with Jordan and I. I reached out to him yesterday and just like, hey, you want to do a podcast tomorrow? Oh, it just so happens I have some space to, to join. Here we are. And we, this has just been a constant theme for us to just kind of do things last minute, so I’m super excited.

And we didn’t really get to talk much about anything, so this is going to be completely raw here, really. No preparation. But I’m, I’m super jazzed to, to be here with you, man. It’s been almost five months, according to YouTube’s last entry of let’s Talk 19, that we’ve been together. So, Jordan, man, it’s, it’s such a great, great honor again to, to share some space with you, man. What’s going on? I appreciate you. Yeah, yeah, same, Same here, man. What’s been going on in your world, man? So many things, man. I’m just trying to, trying to stay focused, you know, with my, with my business stuff.

It’s been quite a bit, so been a lot of focus into these markets because I’m a, you know, big crypto investor, so it’s been getting spicy over there in crypto land. But, yeah, just keeping up with the university that I launched. Probably talked about it the last time we connected, since you said it was like five months ago. I launched in the beginning of the year, so just have a lot of big plans coming for that, and I’m continuing to put my energy into this new project and yeah, just, just building, you know. What about you? Really? Building? Yeah, same here, man.

Well, let’s talk about this university, man. What I, I, I think that, that, I mean, I’ve gotten a lot of responses from people that are doing your university, so let’s elaborate a little bit more about that and then, you know, what are the benefits of joining this university that you have? Because I think the world really needs kind of guidance and direction, and I, I know that you’re kind of one of the leaders, really. I think you’re one of the voices and leaders for moving, you know, humanity, those that are interested in, you know, in kind of their proper places.

So let’s talk a little bit more about the university. Well, that really means a lot to me to hear you say that, man. For sure, man. You deserve it. Yeah, it’s, it’s kind of my dream project because I really like crypto and, you know, all the things going on with investing, but I feel like there’s a way more powerful investment, and that’s the investment in yourself. So I feel that what really changed my life was me just pouring all my energy into my vision, like into my kingdom or whatever you want to call it. I call it my vision.

And once I started putting all of my energy into that and not getting caught up in the. The distractions. Yeah, life started to get a lot better and I started to get a lot, a lot more clarity. And the right people started coming into my world, you know, started making what I believe are the best relationships I’ve ever made in my life. And obviously my business started to thrive. And I guess the long story short is, is I think there’s something that we’re. We have a lot of potential, you know, Man. And I guess one of my gifts, and I don’t say that to flex or to go like the ego route, but I guess one of my gifts is like being able to simplify things for people.

Like, I would like to call myself a reducer. I’m really good at reducing down concepts and ideas and, and strategies and tactics and pretty much anything that aligns with us. Being able to improve, make progress, but also kind of give it a soul, you know, and give it consciousness. And I don’t want to teach people things with. Without that in mind. So a quick brief synopsis of what the university is. Is it’s just teaching people how to create their own business. I. I call it monetizing your passion. So I’m teaching people how to do that. I have a lot of experience as a business owner.

I’ve actually had businesses fail, and I’ve had successful businesses fail. So starting with that, and you know, maybe we could talk a little bit about that together too, with your experiences. But you learn so much from a loss, right? And I think what makes an. What actually makes a leader is not about your wins, it’s about how do you respond to losses. Yeah. So my life changed quite a bit when I had a really big loss in my businesses back in 2020, which. The C19 scam. And then it actually evolved into what I’m doing today. So it was like the most beautiful failure.

You know what I’m saying? Sure. So. So, yeah, like just packaging up all that wisdom and experience and skills and gnosis and creating the university out of that. That’s awesome. I mean, I was going to ask the question, you know, like, this is something that I think everybody listening here should ask themselves. Why are you here? And you just summarized it, you know, like, what’s your passion? Why are you here? Those two questions, what’s your passion? And then, why are you here? What are you doing here on. On planet Earth? Why did you incarnate? If. If everything happens for a reason, if you’re somebody who actually adopts that, if you’ve said that before, I’m sure everybody listening has at least said that once in your life.

Why are you here? Why is everything happening for a reason for you? So I, I love this. And, you know, I mean, I’ve gotten some big positive feedbacks from people that are doing your university. And, you know, this is the thing is like, who. Who do you want to follow? Whose group do you want to be in? Who do you want to hang around with in this day and age? If you could, you know, since we’re so scattered and many people rely on the Internet for their information, it’s not just hugs and handshakes. It’s really cameras, video feed, entertainment.

We talked about this. Let’s talk a little bit about this, too, that you had mentioned this yesterday. People like to be entertained, and I find so fascinating because I. I think this is really what it’s just all about, is it just really want to be entertained. Yeah. People don’t want to actually change their world. They just want to be entertained until their world ends. That’s, wow, poetic there, man. There you go, man. Entertainment. So the question is, ladies and gentlemen, you know what, what is your entertainment? I, you know, you can learn a lot about people.

If I could take a look at your YouTube history, what you’re watching, what your playlists are on Spotify, what music you’re listening to, what are the artists are doing that are creating that music. I know a thing or two about who you are as a person. I’m speaking to the general audience listening to this. And then if you take that information and you, for me, you plug it into somebody’s astrological chart and their numerology and their enneagram and personality types, you now have the recipe for making some kind of, you know, offspring, if you will. And I think that’s part of what your university is about.

Right. I think you can kind of summarize it that way. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I’m. I’m just trying to put soul back into all of this stuff, man, because I see there’s a lot of AI being used, and that was a big motivator, too. And it’s not because I’m anti AI, but I just feel like humans right now could benefit quite a bit from aligning with their creative essence. Yeah, and we’re now pressing the easy button too much on almost everything, you know, so I mean, again, this can go many different places and I, and I hope it does, but it’s just like I’m seeing that one of the things that keeps happening when somebody’s asking me like, how did you become successful? Or how did you figure out this or what, why don’t you have a mentor? How are you able to figure that out without help? And the answer keeps coming back to like, well, I believe everything’s within us.

I’ve just figured out a way to like tune out the static and focus on signal. Like, I’m very disciplined in that way. But I got to admit, when you are that type of person, get ready for a lot of people to not understand you. Get ready for a lot of friends and family to not want to be around you, you know, because you’re an uncle, you become this uncomfortable force, just like the sun. You know, we all like the sun until it starts burning our skin. So what I teach my people is become the sun. Stop staring at the sun, become it.

And when you embody that essence, you’re going to burn a lot of people. But you’re also going to make a lot of people excited and happy when you show up. And there’s a beauty to that. So. So when you become ruthless and genuine and authentic, you know, and just start expressing how you truly feel about everything, you no longer have to deal with the burden of worry that comes with being judged or ridiculed or whatever. And I, I sense that a lot of people right now are super worried. They’re. They’re scared about putting out their art, they’re scared about putting out their opinion.

So they get to hide behind so many things right now and I suspect it’ll get worse. And I don’t say that to be doom and gloom. I actually created the university because I would like there to be a solution. So there’s so many layers to the university that I created, but a big one is believing in yourself and expressing how you feel about whatever it is that excites you and embracing that and not worrying about what comes from the external. Cuz if you continue to embody what that is authent authentically, you’re going to create a frequency which then aligns with the frequency of the people that you were designed to be with anyways.

Well, that’s so true, man. I, you know, I think my kind of take on life is, you know, life’s about looking good. And this is from the great Warner Erhard from, from Landmark. You know, life’s about looking good and that’s what people are in the habit of doing is, is looking good about doing things. And so I like what you said about kind of the getting out of the static and into the clarity and removing the aspect of forget about what you look like doing it, just go do it. But you got to base it upon what you love doing and being in that flow state.

For me, it’s about waking up and saying, I can’t wait to start my day today. And I know that kind of, kind of, you know, is very coherent with what you’re doing in your university. You know, getting out of bed and saying to yourself, man, you know, life’s beautiful despite the chaos. I mean, you know, I, for me, I’ve segregated, I’ve moved away from the chaos. I really, the only way that my life is chaotic is if I actually choose to enter the chaotic field. And that would be to tune into the show that’s on the world right now.

That’s really the only way. I mean, yeah, I have my ups and downs with physicality and all that kind of stuff, being 52, but chaos only really enters my area of, of life if I choose it to be that way. And I think that people should really kind of take that into consideration. And if you’re willing to, you know, in this case join Jordan’s university, you’re moving into a space of order. You’re not, your university is not chaotic. It’s the opposite of that. And I think that people can, can move into a space where they’re welcomed and they find their, their order amidst chaos.

But I think chaos really, and I want to talk about that more. What’s your take on that? Like chaos is really self inflicted, right? Besides the physicality in the body and aging, chaos is, is self inflicted. Yeah. I have this really dope section inside of my decoding mastermind and it’s about ordering chaos or to up Ko and I talk about how like people are so quick, especially in the truther community, you know, like the people that are getting into decoding and learning about all these conspiracies and stuff, they always look down upon that, that, that motto, you know, Uruap Ko.

But I actually think that once I allowed chaos, that was where like wings sprouted from my back. Like you have to be okay with the winds. Picking up. You have to be okay with the rain when you expected sunshine. You have to be okay with the love of your life to no longer accept you for who you are. You have to be okay with death. It’s inevitable. Yeah. You have to be okay with everything as it is. And what I’ve been attempting to get people to realize is that it is not information and knowledge that makes you powerful.

It’s the ability that when something happens that is chaotic. How do you respond to that chaos? And do you have the tools and the awareness and the ability to respond to it and become a role model for everyone else that sees you responding to it? Because by default, that’s what a leader is. Right? So I think there’s beauty in chaos, and it’s something that we should never avoid. If anything, just allow. And that’s not saying that you’ve ever avoided things. I’ll be honest. I avoid quite a bit of quote, unquote chaos by just keeping my Persona and my identity away from everything.

You know, Like, I love incognito mode. I love going to the grocery store and nobody knows me. You know, the other day I was wearing some, like, crazy shoes. These, like, shoes that were, like, making, like, sandals, and it was making my feet hurt a lot. And then I ended up walking, like, 20 city blocks barefoot. And, like, everyone’s just, like, staring at me and thinking I’m, like, out of my mind. But I’m just like, I don’t give a dude. Like, I literally have gone to a place where I give zero. And what I’ve learned when I’ve aligned with that is it becomes the most attractive energy.

You know what I mean? Like, everyone is actually inspired, and, like, they want to be that guy. I’m not trying to say that they want to be like, me. It’s just people are so tense right now, man. Like, everyone is, like, holding in a fart. And that’s why they’re not producing anything. That’s why they’re not going for it. That’s why they’re not taking risks. That’s why when they see a beautiful woman at the bar, they’re not walking up to her. That they’re just like, everybody’s tense. Everybody’s whole. Like, they’re. They’re crunched up in the fetal position, you know? Yeah.

And that anxiety and that 10. I’ll call it nervousness. Like, everyone’s very nervous right now. So. Yeah, like, with. With my. With my being state and, like, with the way that I am and especially with the university I just wanted to create a little realm where that nervousness is unnecessary, you know, where you’ll quickly realize there’s no point of having that feeling. And that’s. That’s what gives you the. The canvas to make beautiful portraits. Well, I. Yeah. And to. To add on to that, p. I. People are in the state of. I mean, really, it’s about yin yang.

So if you’re not expanding your world, you’re contracting. And I think that’s what the world is really in a big. The collective is contracting. They’re going within. And there’s a lot of rage and anger right now. And of course, astrologically, I mean, one of the big reasons why the fighting’s going on over in the Middle east is because Mars is in leo, Right. And. And Leo is fire. And Mars is fire. So this is the collective, astrologically, for everyone to feel and experience. But if you use Mars and LEO for expansion, it’s a different set of circumstances, and the outcome can be extremely beautiful.

So this is why for. And what I end up telling my community is, you know, forget about the dirty laundry on the world stage. Move into a state of expansion when everybody else is doing the opposite. They’re contracting. They’re being afraid. And when you’re in a state of fear, you’re in a state of paralyzation, and paralyzation makes you really do nothing. They just argue debate, which is really kind of the consensus on the world stage. People are loving this content right now of arguing and debating about, you know, this and that. So rather than do that, moving into your university, for example, you’re now expanding your consciousness.

While everybody is. A lot of it. People are just contracting out of fear. So I really kind of. I’m digging this conversation so far. Yeah, man. I mean, and I also, I. I want to create things that are, like, the antithesis of what people typically have experienced, you know, like. Like anti school. Right. Like everything about school, you know, it’s an indoctrination camp. So you’re effectively there to just become eventually a subpar, mediocre worker when you graduate. Right? Yep. So I just think. I think a lot about those things. Like, what would I. When I create, I always think about, especially if it’s for other people, if it will have utility for them.

I always think, like, what have I experienced that I would not want to go through again? You know, like, and how can we expedite this process without rushing through it? You know? And I think these are things that are crucial. And I. I suppose for Me, I’m obviously a teacher. Like I thrive in that, in that position. Yeah. But I’m also learning more about myself and, and like what I want out of life. And the more I’m vulnerable with my ideas and my thoughts and everything. And I do it with this niche community, like this small group of, of action takers.

You know, there’s so much prana that comes from that. There’s so much life force to be able to do it with people that actually like, care about making the world something or making their world a better place. And we could avoid all this static that’s happening on the world stage. And you know, I guess for me and you as decoders, it’s nearly impossible to avoid. When something occurs. Everyone wants to know, like, Logan, can you decode the World War iii? Right. So I mean, I get it. I’m doing my best to still allow that and not completely just like say, oh, that I’m not going to decode anything that’s happening.

That, that’s like this. Because in a way, like, if anything, it’s a reminder for all of us that we live in a scripted reality. Right. And that reminder is, well, it’s gonna hit people in different ways. There could be a brand new subscriber that reaches your channel and they don’t really understand where you’re coming from. And for you to be able to decod that that new event could blow their mind and then that would lead them to a live stream and then hear some of your other thoughts and philosophy on other things and then boom, boom, boom.

You know, and that’s the beauty of this, of this Internet and this microphone that I have and the WI fi and the laptop, etc. So yeah, they’re, they’re. I’m always just trying to see, like there has to be a good in it, even if I give my energy to it. But how could I keep. Keep balance? And I suspect like a lot of people right now, they’re very polarized. It’s tough for them to keep balance. It’s tough for them to stay focused. It’s much easier to just pile themselves up with dirty laundry because that’s entertainment. Right? Comes back to what we were talking about earlier.

Like, it will never make your world better. It just entertains you. And it’s like that scene in Gladiator, like, so we’re here, man. Like, I guess like I just want to be a, a beacon of light amongst that, that darkness. Yeah. Well, to add to that, you know, I admit I, I, when I decoded the world War iii When I was doing my research, I’ll admit man, I was watching a lot of the mainstream, which I never do, I don’t really do that anymore. But going into it with a fresh set of eyes, I know it’s just a movie so I, I don’t know, get polarized with it.

But I found myself, honestly I found myself waking up and be like, oh, I want more. It was like a fix to, to see what was going on, to see what this person was saying and see what that person was. And you know, the thing is, is the commentary for all the stuff that’s going on in the world stage is all over the place and there’s all these opinions and they’re, a lot of them are different and then we know that there’s propaganda. So it’s like what’s true, what’s not true? When it comes to what’s true and what’s not true, that’s a tough thing to figure out.

And so I found myself enamored by these opinions, yet the opinions are all over the board and I couldn’t really come to a conclusive on what was true and what’s not true. And so it’s just again it’s entertainment. That’s it. The things that are going on in the world stage are just entertainment. But really there’s no, as you call it, there’s no utility for it. There’s no value other than you get to talk about this commentary and offer your insight and opinion and just add to in this case, the war machine. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that’s so, so I, I made it very clear and I’m kind of bored with it.

So I’m like eh, so now next, what, what’s coming? What’s coming next? And so like I have my own course that I’m working on that’s about to be released which is kind of in the same lines, self help on what you’re doing and it’s going to help people find their passion and I know a lot of people that are, that did your university are going to overflow into what I’m doing and I, and I feel like that it’s a nice bundle for people to, to really kind of reach a higher state of consciousness. But you know, I want to really talk about why, why you are so in that space.

You know, astrologically I, I think people, they know you but they want to know more about you. So I just want to generalize this, that first and foremost your solar life path is the golden ratio. Because March 16, March being the first month, Solarly is 1 dash 16 and 116 is the permutation of the golden ratio. And you talked about the sun. That’s what I kind of picked up on. But more importantly, that 116alchemically is the element, tiny tin element number 50, which has the most stable isotopes out of them all, is tied to Jupiter, Zeus.

And Zeus in one’s chart means expansion. And where is your Jupiter located at? In the sign of Virgo. And Virgo. We’re in the season of Virgo because we’re in the year of the snake, and Snake is Chinese number six, and Virgo is astrologically assigned number six. So this year for you is about expansion. And so you release a course, a university during maybe people would say chalked up to be some of the darkest times of our reality at this point, but yet you’ve been courageous enough to do it. And again, why, why I see it is because your Zeus is in the expansion of Virgo.

I mean, literally in the heart of Virgo. If you look at your astrological chart. Right, right in her midsection. So I. This is the greatness about you and why you’re doing your passion and you’re doing your responsibilities and you’re releasing this and you’re giving clarity amongst chaos. And I, I just want people to know that because. And people are going to call this bromance and all that kind of. But you know, the thing is, I value, I value the bromance because we’re soul brothers, man, you know, And I value that there’s value. I value it beyond words because.

And this is the collaboration, man. You know, I’m like, I’m trying to collaborate some other great minds hoping that this can be the case because I think the world needs the collaboration for that place. You know, they’re looking for their place in this world. So 100. I think one of the things, one of the qualities about me is like, when I know that there’s a problem ahead or like when there’s a tough time coming up, I actually get motivated, inspired. So I knew 2025 was going to be a weird year. So I kind of, I thought about that far in advance.

So when it got closer to the end of 2024, I was like, I need to make this university, I need to launch it right away. Like there’s no waiting game anymore. I just gotta pause whatever I have going on, pour a hundred percent of my life force into this and just get it, get it out, get it released. You Know, and I knew it would be what some people might consider, like, bad time to, to do. So. I even had like, people in my life that are super into astrology that were like, yeah, like this, this and this.

Or a line where like, you shouldn’t be making something new. And I’m like that, bro. Like, I’m just gonna do whatever I want and it is what it is. Like, at the end of the day, I created and we’ll see where it goes. So I think that energy also is something that I’ve learned over time. And I hope that the way I carry myself and the way that I, you know, the way that I express myself right there is maybe inspiring to other people that are thinking like, oh, I can’t do this right now, or maybe the housing market’s going to crash or like, I shouldn’t travel here because of this thing that, you know, it’s like, first and foremost, we are suffering right now because we have too much information.

We have access to too much information. So you’re spending so much time analyzing the what ifs that you never live your life. So. And I’m, I’m, I’m in a business model where people want me to determine how the future will go. So you think, imagine me admitting this. Yeah. Like, it’s a tough thing to be in my position where people support my art, which is focused on what the future will be like in the markets, world stage, etc, so. But I hope they see that I’m trying to stay neutral and I’m trying to not make it overly important because there’s way more important about life.

And if you’re a millionaire but you don’t have any, all the other things figured out, then you’re just a guy with a million dollars, you know, Congratulations. Yeah, I’m not sure how much that’s going to help you. If anything, it might burden you more. It might be a, a sharper shovel to dig up the dirt to your own grave. You know, a lot of people aren’t supposed to get that amount of money. That might be controversial for people to hear, but I think you, you probably resonate with that. Right? Like some people, they’re just not coded to have a monetary abundance.

They’re coded to have different forms of abundance. Relationships, skills. Yep. Etc. Yep. That’s the value. And understand, like knowing like this. The Age of Aquarius is I know thyself. So Pisces was. I have faith. And I believe we’re moving away from that age into I know myself. And so the only way you can know yourself is to remove yourself from the old ways, the old aeon of Pisces. And that is a tall order because people are accustomed to doing what mom and dad did. We look to see how they live their lives. And it’s. It’s not the same anymore.

So the transition can be challenging. But it’s very. I think it’s very beautiful. And you know, to, to add on to what you’re saying. What makes you so amazing as a human being astrologically, besides Virgo being occupied by Zeus and the expansion of what it means to be a human being and whatnot. Your Mercury, your planet of communication, the way you think is literally sitting in the. The pouring of the water in Aquarius. Your Mercury sitting in the spout of the water coming out of the urn that’s being turned over by Aquarius. Which means that you are here to pour out information based upon the thoughts coming into your mind.

You’re not here to leave them contained within your own vessel. You’re here to, to. To give them to humanity. And being that your son is in Pisces along with Venus, you’re really here to be that. You’re on that mystical journey, but you want to share that love with everybody else. As somebody who was born in the age of Pisces, moving into the transition of Aquarius. And that’s what makes you great. And that’s the, the value that you bring to the world stage on top of that being the seven diamonds. And you know, that is kind of the, the, the in between the material and the spiritual.

And I know you feel that it’s like what value that you give to the monetary side of life can be challenging to. Having to let go to some of that to reach your spiritual enlightenment in ways. Right. So you kind of like in between those two areas. But I think what’s important is what you said is that not everybody’s here to, to. To be wealthy, you know, monetarily. Yeah, monetarily. I’ve done enough readings over the years. I’ve done millionaires, I’ve done even billionaires. I’ve done readings for. And I’ve done it for people that are not any near and close to that status.

The question is really what. What is it that you want in life beyond the programming of what you were raised up in? You know, because society raised you in a reality where, especially if you’re in a. Born in the United States, you want to become a millionaire, you want to be. You want to have status, you want to be on Television, you know. Well, you already are, but, you know, not everybody’s here to be, you know, watched by everybody else, you know, and I think that’s kind of. We need to get over that consensus is that, you know, you may not be somebody that’s going to be in the limelight, you know, so it’s important to know your code folks, really, and the.

The simplicity of it, really. You don’t really need to. If you’re not somebody who wants to study astrology and numerology, I just go. You go do Jordan’s university. You’re going to find that when you do what his course is going to teach you to do, you’re automatically going to be in the flow state of your astrology and numerology. You’ll go back and you’ll start to reverse engineer and you’ll be like, holy. I was. This is exactly what I’m supposed to be doing. Yeah, because it’s called your passion, you know, that’s really what it’s all about. Yeah.

Like, the ego is a very powerful thing. And I think when we kind of break free from that old patterning, that old programming, we start to see that, like, there’s this. There’s this exciting new world that we could enter. But everything that’s exciting is also a little bit scary. Right? Sure. So I suppose, like, my methodology is chase what excites you. But when it’s giving you resistance, it’s because you’re not ready for the next level. But what you have to be able to do in that moment is don’t get discouraged that you’re not at the next level yet.

Realize that whatever you’re about to go through in the now moment is exactly what you need to go through in the now moment. Yep. So this is coming back to the accepting of failure or being okay with the concept of loss, because all loss is. Is an opportunity for you to win more. You know, it’s kind of lame to just put it into the duality of winning and losing, but I’m just trying to speak so that everyone understands where I’m coming from. You know, it doesn’t need to be this super philosophical concept. So. Yeah, like, one of the things that is kind of interesting is I’ve always been excited about astrology, but I’ve never been as passionate and as interested in it as, like, you are.

Right. So it’s so cool to meet people who have these passions and these other things. It’s what makes the world so beautiful. And I think that’s what we need to continue to do. And actually, we don’t do that typically. We try to find people that have the same exact interest as us, and then it just becomes this, like. Yeah, it’s like dating somebody who’s exactly like you. Like, that’s not good. Guys, like, they’re not able to sharpen your sword like you, you always want to be surrounding yourself with people that. Sure, you have. At the end of the day, there’s some concepts that you align with.

But the point that I’m making is, like, we’re here to learn from each other. We’re here to build together. And if you wanted to build a house, you wouldn’t get too far if all you had was roofers. Interesting concept. Very true. Yeah. You want that roofer to go install your electrical. Good luck with that. Yeah. Like, you’re not going to build a house when 100% of the people building it are plumbers. Yeah. You get what? I hope that clicked for people who weren’t, like, tracking great enough. Yeah. Like, I want to surround myself by everybody. I want to be friends with the plumber.

I want to be friends with the roofer. I don’t want to be friends with a bunch of gematria people or ta crypto people like that. Like, we’re not going to be in a band together if everyone’s playing guitar. I need a drummer, I need a singer. I need. And that, that to me is something that I’m lucky that I’m, I’m actually. Because my, my number one passion was music or it still is having that awareness of, like, what it’s like to create something that, that has balance and, and bringing that concept into the philosophy of making business.

You know, I try to say making business, not making money because I think that’s a lot more empowering and it’s truth. So little word hack for everyone who, you know, want, want to make some breakthroughs. Stop trying to make money. Like, making money is a dead end. Yeah. Well, that’s the mint. That’s the United States mint. They make money. Yeah. So I, I know this could go in many different directions, but I’ve been feeling that a lot lately. That, and I don’t bring that up to create any, like, disharmony in other people in their friend groups.

It’s just, I, I, I realize that that’s the case most of the time. Like, people want to hang out with somebody that they like football and they like going to the pub, so they, the whole, like, relationship with you and that other person is screaming at a Television after drinking three Guinnesses. And it’s just like, what did you guys build together? And when you’re surrounding yourself with people that have those different skills, that have that different thing to bring to the. To the band, you know, then you’re forced to building together. Like, if I have a conversation with you, Logan, and we know, because I’ve spent time with you in person, I don’t play your sport.

Right. You play a different sport than me, but, like, we’re. At the end of the day, we’re still athletes. Yeah. It’s just like you’re, like, you’re a king at what you do, you know, I am like, a bishop at the thing that you do, and I’m okay with that. I love that I’m not at your level with what you do, because I get to learn from you. Sure. So we need to make room for that, guys. Like, you need to make room for there to be somebody who specializes in something that you don’t and then observe them, witness them, and if you see passion in them, then that’s the person you should be hanging out with.

You know, the person who’s excited about the thing that they are mastered, that they’re a master in. That’s one of my, like, life hacks. And it’s why I love meeting people who have skills and I disregard their state of consciousness. You know what I mean? Like, if I meet an Uber driver who said, like, he was a landscaper or whatever, I want to just talk with him about that. Like, I don’t give a. About what I can. I’m not gonna tell the guy, like, oh, yeah, I travel, and I have an online business. Like, who gives a.

I want to learn from him. Like, this is my shot today to get some real human connection with me. I’m not gonna be like, well, he probably doesn’t know that the earth is flat and that Donald Trump’s a year. Like, I’m not gonna do that with this guy. And I feel like a lot of truthers and a lot of people that are, like, in the know, they’re always just trying to, like, have those discussions, but they end up getting digitally aligned at first with people that are all obsessed with the same thing. And then what happens is you’re in this, like, very weak fraternity.

Like, this very weak, soft, digital fraternity. I know this is gonna make so many people mad right now, but it just needs to be said. That’s why I think a lot of people. Disruption, man. You know, I mean, I think there’s. There’s There’s a lot of value in the disruption. You know, it’s. It’s fascinating that you mentioned this is how in tune you are with yourself. Right. You mentioned I’m okay being a bishop. Well, I, I just, I released my first book maybe about a month ago. Right. I haven’t released it to the public yet, but.

And it’s on the card system. In the card system tied to the birthdays, and those are tied to chess pieces. And do you know that your chess pieces, your seven, you’re the seven of diamonds, which is, which is, which is the pot, which is the pawn on the front line, a white pawn. And your nine of hearts, which is your spirit card, is the bishop, and you’re a white bishop. So you literally have two white pieces and the white makes the first move in chess, typically. Right. And this correlates to. I’m just going to release my course.

I’m going to make the first move despite everybody, the main collective contracting, going within and being afraid of making moves based upon their lives. And yeah, you know, Bobby, Bobby Fischer said that bishops are more important than knights. So when he was teaching people like, chess, at first, when he was coming out with this theory, there was nothing to back that up. But then when they came out with these, like, really crazy computers, like stockfish, like these, these chess computers that could be humans, it’s it, it learned later that it was, that it determined that the bishop is in fact, more powerful than the night.

And I’m just saying this not because it has anything to do with me, but it shows that, like, there’s something deep about the mind and Bobby Fischer’s ins. Like, if you ever pay attention to anything Bobby Fischer’s ever said in the past, like, absolute, absolute wizard. And then I. Have you ever looked at his birthday? I haven’t, but I’m gonna look it up right now. Yeah, let’s see. He’s born in March. So look into Bobby Fischer, bro. He born on March 9th. Yep. And he died in Iceland. Reykjavik. The place that I’ve been to the most.

Like, it’s my most visited place. Oh, yeah, he did. January 17th. Like, how wild. So, like, I don’t. And I don’t want to go too deep into, into Fisher, but like, just something that I thought about recently because I’ve been. I’ve been getting kind of into chess personally. And yeah, that, that knowing what I said before, it’s why I could keep my ego on the sidelines and be like, well, if in this arena of astrology, like Logan’s the king and I’m the bishop, and I’m totally fine with that in tandem. We’re both very powerful, you know, for sure, man.

That’s just how fascinating it all is, man. And you being that, that your spirit card, the nine of hearts, the bishop, the white bishop, you know, your spirit really, the nine of hearts is, is wish fulfillment, but in the card system, it’s really about giving it away, you know, because you have your complete wish fulfillment. And a large portion of that is to give it away because you have everything coming in. And when you get into that flow state, which is. I know you love being in the flow state. The more you give away, the more you, you get in this if for you personally, this is not for everybody.

But yeah, when you get in that flow state, it’s like, you know, sucking the water out of a garden hose. Once you start to flow, as long as there’s a source of water, it’s going to continue to flow. So when you get into that flow state and you give some of that away, that’s when you’re going to be most dominant as that bishop. And yeah, the bishop is. It’s the Pope in the Vatican. That’s the bishop, you know, the bishop is Peter. St. Peter. And it’s such a valuable piece because it moves in all those, those directional spaces on the board.

Yeah. So two white pieces too. So again, the first move gets made by the white. So you’re not, you’re not, you’re, you’re not moving against. You’re moving with the flow. It’s so. It’s just. I love this whole part of it, man. Bobby Fischer, an ace of spades upon. But he dies as a 10 of diamonds, which is a castle. So he dies. The castles make the walls. It’s so amazing, man. I gotta look more into the chess people, because, yeah, this whole chess thing is fascinating. Yeah, I’ll definitely talk with you about it another time because there’s this part in his career where he started talking about the Jews and like lost everything because of it.

Because he started just like speaking his truth about. About. About Zionism, you know, called Zionism, because that’s what he actually was trying to expose. And I just find it so fascinating, all these people’s careers that like, take this turn where they start to just be exposing this particular mindset. We won’t even say people, because this mindset could be in a Scientologist, a Christian, Hinduism, whatever. Right. Zionism is just a mindset, right? Yep. So Bobby Fischer starts, like just going all in exposing this. And I think it’s so hilarious that, like, a lot of people’s careers took a bad turn because they started to just say how they felt about this.

And my. My quote, unquote career started. Started with. With me talking about this. And I guess it was the right timing because people are now waking up to it. But for those first two years that I was talking about Europa, the last battle, and everything that was going on with that, like, people were hating on me, bro. Like, but my business continued to thrive because I knew that what I was saying, what was. Was truth, you know, Like, I wasn’t trying to cause a problem. Like, I have no issue with the Jews. Like, Zionism, on the other hand, I have quite an issue with.

Right. Everyone. Everyone should. It’s atrocious. So it’s. It’s wild that I look back at how I started everything here with Waters above, and it did have this fearlessness. And I hope if everyone’s listening right now, just express your truth. Like, don’t hold back. Because. Because if you lie, then you have to remember your lie, and then you have to keep up with that lie for a really long time. And it just gets uncomfortable. When you’re a liar, eventually you’re just gonna have to spill it. And then when you spill it, you deserve to. You. You deserve the guillotine.

Yeah, I know that that hurts people’s feelings, but it’s like, just don’t do it the same thing. If you’re in a relationship with somebody, if you’re on the first date, like, get it off your chest, everything you feel like, just let them know who you really are and what you’re about. Because if you don’t, then it’s just gonna build and build and build, and it’s gonna be, like, scum, and eventually it’s gonna rot. Everything about what keeps you together. So don’t. Don’t make that simple mistake. And I think your life will get dramatically better. Well, I couldn’t.

Couldn’t agree anymore, man. I have this saying, man. I decode on the first date, you know? Yeah, I bet you do. Yeah, for sure. You know, because I want to know, you know, and I’ll tell you everything. Like, I’m. You know me, man. I’m super vulnerable, very open to. You know, there’s this. There’s this guy. I don’t. I don’t know who he is, but he’s. He’s. He makes a living on YouTube by trying to, you know, try to get dirt on people. I mean, There’s a few of these channels that float around. One day he left a comment on my channel, something I don’t know.

And so, so, so he ends up trying to. So I’m like, dude, that’s the best you got. Like, everybody, I’ve been married three times. Like, I, I’ve told my wife I’ve been to prison. Like, well, you had. There’s no dirt, man. So he tries to like, say he sends this picture of me and somebody that’s like, well, dude, that’s the best you got. Like, oh, I can do this all day. Okay, keep them coming then, man. I’ll take the. But this is, you know, like, I don’t, I’m. I don’t care. Like, it is what it is.

Like, you don’t have. I don’t have. I’ve got, I’ve got rid of all my dirt. Really? Yeah. So cringy that people like give up their day to day to do this and make videos to just get dirt on people. And that’s how they feel. That’s how they feel better about themselves because their life is probably so miserable. Which, hey, that’s your, you know, Glad I didn’t get it. Makes me grateful knowing I didn’t get your life, you know, so. But anyway, like one of the things I was thinking about, like from the, from the strategy side of things, it’s like there’s a strategy to.

I want to be careful with what I say, but like there’s a, there’s a strategy in making yourself uncancellable. And when you make yourself un. Cancelable, then you don’t need to be strategic anymore. Wow, that’s. I love it. Become uncanceable. That’s actually a really good topic for, for a course, dude. Yeah, no, I think about it all the, I think about it all the time because, because I, because I realized that tension and that nervousness in everyone that I was talking about earlier and I’m like, what are you worried about? Like, what do you, what do you, you have that included in your university becoming uncanceable? I think that’s a great thing to add on a syllabus on to what you’re doing.

Yeah, I mean, I, I should definitely make a lecture on it because I feel like it’s, I feel like it’s something that a lot of people would resonate with. And, and again, it’s something that I, that I think of all the time because I’m all about how to remove that nervousness, you know, how to remove. How to bring that fluidity back to it all instead of having it all dammed up. So there’s so much prana that’s flowing through us all the time, all the time. Even in our voices, you know, like people are like, people talk about my voice all the time, whatever.

But like I found that voice that I have today. And why? Because I stopped being so nervous. Your true voice is behind the comfortability to just express. Because if you’re nervous, your throat chakra is just all clinched together. Right. It’s, it’s contracting as you said earlier. Yep. So we can even see in martial arts, you know, you don’t need to be this huge jacked up bodybuilder to beat the out of people. Like you could be this tiny little like 120 pound dude who just knows where to strike and the timing and you up like. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Yep. So the timing is everything, dude. Like a big dude who doesn’t know how to punch takes forever to punch. Yeah. Like by the time he’s cocking his arm back, the master’s already throat chopped them. Yep. Like, good luck fighting me when you’re holding your, a soft, you know, holding your throat because you’re so, I don’t know, man. Like this world is very fascinating where people get caught up in the aesthetic of it all. So you see the big bodybuilder guy and you go, oh, this is something I should be admiring. And it’s like, well, ask yourself, how did the bodybuilder become the bodybuilder? I bet you 95 of the time it’s the byproduct of insecurities, which is okay.

It’s oh k. If the bodybuilder comes out and says I was insecure and people made fun of me or whatever and I just wanted to make myself look more dominating or whatever, then at least he admitted it. And that’s beautiful. I love the admission, you know, like that’s where it’s all at. So that’s where it comes back to being un cancelable. Like you do steroids. Great. Just say it. I mean, if not, not if you’re in a professional sport. I mean, I guess that’s kind of the worst thing to put yourself into if you’re doing that right.

Yep. But like, look at the Liver King situation. I think it’s great. And I try to stay out of the world stage. But he’s fascinating because in my work I talk all the time about health and wellness and I’ll wrap this up in a second, but I talk about health and wellness. And there was like a two year period where everybody was coming in the comments section of my, you know, the, the chats and the live streams and they’re like, you gotta eat liver. You gotta eat like organ meats. And I’m like, where did this come from? And then I find this liver king guy, like blew up overnight success, boom, boom, boom.

And he adamantly said the whole, the whole time for those two years that everybody was commenting that he didn’t do steroids, he didn’t take any anabolics. Yep. And then it finally came out that he’s taking like $12,000 a month of PEDs. Yep, guys, $12,000. Do you understand the lifestyle you could have with 12 GS every month? You could live pretty much anywhere in the world. You like, in a nice place. So this person then gets to a place where he has to now admit because it’s, he did not make himself uncancelable. And from the moment that happened, his life has just started to spiral and spiral and spiral and spiral.

And I don’t like to see that, like, I’m not that guy. That’s like, I’m glad he, he fell because if you, if you wish for another man to fall, you yourself will fall harder. But I just look at it as like so many people were inspired by him based on his body. And that, that’s where I come full circle. Because it’s like you, you looked past the integrity and the honor of the man and that’s what, that’s what actually matters. Because guess what? That’s what’s in your organs. The feelings that you have, they store in your organs.

So if you have a bitterness to you, your heart is bitter, your lungs are bitter, your kidneys are bitter, you are bitter. If you’re a liar, that becomes you on a cellular level. So it just deteriorates your soul anyway. I mean it, it lined up, it lined up him for him in many grandiose ways. Because the buildup of people like, you know, the obvious was, come on, dude, you’re on stuff that’s, that’s easy to see. But then the denial, the buildup, and then finally the, the orgasm, as I like to put. The orgasm was him admitting that he was taking $12,000 a month and stuff.

But you, you know, the funny thing about it is, is if you’re spending 12 grand to look like that, you must be. And, and being able to sustain that in some way, you’re, you must be making more than 12, 000 to continue about that kind of lifestyle. So the guy was making tons of money and he was benefiting from it, and now he, you know, he ends up having to admit it and then ends up benefiting from admitting it because people are still watching his content. And now he’s. But now he’s having to do some crazy stuff.

He’s been doing crazy. Yeah, but that’s, yeah, that’s what I’m trying to say, bro. Like, now he has to do crazy to be relevant. Yeah, yeah. You see the problem here? Like if you, if you build something on needing to be relevant, then you are already dead. Sure, you’re already dead. This is why, like, when people are like, oh, this person’s better at TA than you, I’m like, yes, they are. They are. I know a better decoder than me. I know some. I, I am not the best. And that’s okay because then I never need to be chasing relevance.

Because when you call yourself the best and you are really hanging on to that, then now you have a belt that you have to protect, like a fighter. I don’t want to protect a belt. I’m not in a competition. This is the Internet, guys. Yeah, well, it’s like I’m. This is words of wisdom right now because I know a lot of people, they like, get this sensation that they’ll become more, you know, a better version of themselves if they could be the best. And I don’t get the point of even teaching that concept. Like, where do we get that from? Probably Hollywood.

Right? And bad parenting. I, I have this kind of analogy of which I already mentioned. It kind of segues into what you’re saying is that I, I feel like life’s like an orgasm. Like life is all about sex. It’s really, you know, and so what I mean by life is about an orgasm is that you, you have this build up. It’s like if you, if you ever, if you ever watch a show, if you ever watch like an eight part miniseries show, that’s, that’s the orgasm, which, the orgasms at the, the eighth episode, right? It’s the build up from episode one all the way up to episode eight.

And then people are, Once you release the orgasm, you’re like, ah, but you, you want more. Now you’re chasing like, oh my God, I want to go back to episode one. There’s no more. The series is done. People want another series. And that’s what life is. You people look for. Especially. You mentioned wrestling. You’re these wrestlers, wwe, they, they’re after the belt they want to. Well, they want to get the world title. The world title is the orgasm. Once you get the world title, now you have to defend it. But at the same time, people, when you lose it, you try to get it again.

So it’s chasing the orgasm. I think that’s what life is all about. Same with having a shot of whiskey or a glass of wine. Once you get that buzz, you chase it. You chase it with another one. You don’t want to lose it. Don’t want to lose the belt. You don’t want to lose the title. You’re afraid of being normal in a world full of, you know, outside normalcy. Yeah, yeah. It’s like we’re ignoring the bell curve. Yeah. Like, the plane has to land after taking off, guys. You don’t just, like, go in the sky and you’re, like, up there forever.

Like, I bet you if I put. If I. If I like, did a social experiment, right? Where I’m like, I’ll pay this pilot. After we get in the sky, we’ll tell everyone, okay, guys, we’re now gonna float up here for the next 24 hours. Everyone will be like, get me off this plane now. Yeah, but when you want to become rich and you make a X amount of dollars, and then you. Now you just want to stay in the sky forever. And that’s why people never become wealthy. Yeah. So what I studied about wealthy people is they make a certain amount, just enough to cover, like, their living expenses and maybe some, like, safety, you know, blanket.

And then all the excess, they go invest that again. They purposefully land the plane for a moment to get out of the sky, because they know that that’s the only way to grow. Yeah. Just like Mother Nature. She doesn’t just, like, make apples forever. There’s a harvest, there’s a bunch of apples all at once, and then that’s it. You’re. That’s the orgasm, man. Mother Nature making the apples. That’s the orgasm. The build up of that is the penetration and going in and out. I’m not to get too graphic, but that’s just. Yeah, it’s all about. I’ve been thinking, I’ve talked about this a lot.

When people bring up the concept of happiness. So I say that happiness is like taking a. Happiness is like when you really need a pee and you get to a toilet. That’s all happiness is. So when they tell you the pursuit of happiness, this is already a trap. You shouldn’t pursue happiness. You should. You should pursue life. Life has. Taking a life has pissing. But life is also in that state of awareness that it’s just this moment and it, it moves on. Right? Yeah. Past the orgasm. You’re gonna go to sleep. All right? Yep. So when you put all of your energy and, and value system behind the orgasm, which is what you were just talking about, or behind this concept of happiness, then you’re already setting yourself up for failure.

Because the program language isn’t designed based in the concept of life. It’s designed in this very binary. Yeah, it’s, it’s a conundrum. I, I sense that why a lot of people aren’t happy is because they’re actually chasing happiness. But this is like putting a value system on the next piss you’re going to take. Like, why are you doing this? You don’t do this. Therefore why do you do this with this other aspect of you? And I know a lot of people, when they hear me say this, they laugh and they’re like, oh, but then it clicks.

Like maybe it takes an hour, maybe it takes a day. But, but the point here is that like, don’t turn your passion into the eight part Netflix series. Don’t do that. And that’s the, the main teaching behind Waters Above University is fall in love with the process, script the outcome and fall in love with the process and always practice over perfectionism. We do not strive to be perfect, we strive to practice. And the more practice, the more flow state, the more life force. So true. I mean if you use the concept of someone, someone that does.

You ever, you ever rock climb before? No, but like that’s something that I am definitely, I will definitely get into at some time in my life. Like. Yeah, I could see it. I could see it. Yeah. It’s so cool, man. Like, it’s amazing. It is, man. And you know those people that rock climb, the value is climbing the freaking, the rock, man. When you get to the top, man, the journey’s over. And then you’re like, oh, okay, I’m gonna go now. I’m gonna go to this mountain. I’m gonna climb this mountain. So it’s so true in what you said because once the orgasm is getting to the top of the mountain, the buildup is climbing the rock, the face, the build up and build up and build up.

And then you get to the top and it’s like, oh, I did it. And now you’re chasing that. So the, the, the amount of time that the orgasm lasts is nothing in comparison to the buildup of the orgasm. So that’s the thing is when you get in the flow state, which is the build up, you’re free, you know, because you’re not, you’re going to chase the orgasm. But the really it’s, it’s all about the in between, the journey of getting there. Not the climax. The climax, it’s like, ah, you know, winning the title is the climax.

Yeah. Getting to the title, that’s really. Well, we have to admit it still has purpose, right? Totally. It would be like. Yeah, yeah. It would be like saying it would be like disregarding like taking the, it’s like you don’t just hold it in and ride it out. Yeah, no, for sure. Yeah. I mean if you’re like the point, the point of it all is to have the orgasm. Guys like that, let’s not forget that like the actual, like it, the point of getting in your car is to drive to point B. That’s right. You don’t just get in the car and you’re like, well, we’ll just see where this goes.

Yeah. Because you’re gonna waste resources. Yeah. So there’s something to this. I hope people get like the grand analogy that the grand portrait that Logan is painting for us right now. Well, it’s not to disregard the outcome because it’s there. Totally. It matters. It’s, it’s a complete system. It’s a complete process. Obviously this is why people take vacations. You know, you do a big, A lot of people, they, they build something, it has success and then I’m gonna take a vacation. Yeah. It’s like having sex and busting one, having an orgasm and then you’re getting ready to go to sleep.

That’s the vacation. You’re gonna go to sleep. Right. So there’s a reward. You look for the reward. The journey to get through the reward is really. But you got to find what you, what you want to do in life. That’s really what it’s all about is, is knowing your passion, doing your passion. And that’s, that’s what I value about you is that you are doing it. You’re in the flow state. And the value that you offer to people is, hey, you can duplicate, you can do what I’m doing. Right. But you gotta, I, I, I mentioned this last night on my live.

I said, when’s the last time you’ve done a mental detox? You know, we do these physical detoxes. You’re big into fasting and dry fasting and, but that’s physical. Yeah. A lot of people need to do a mental detox. They need to get rid of the attention that they’re putting on what’s, you know, what’s really kind of causing a lot of chaos in their life. And their order comes out of that. And then there becomes purpose in what you. You’ve coined. You really. You’re the guy that’s coined utility. Utility comes from. From that. Like, I just say it a lot.

I say it a lot. That’s a great word, though. I mean, that’s one of your. That’s one of your catchphrases, utility. Because what. What. What does this offer as utility in your life? You know, But I think that if people are willing to do a mental detox, and you could do it in so many different ways, there’s the silent retreats. You can do those before, right? The silent. No. Oh, you’ve never done those where you don’t talk for, period. For a period of time, all I do is talk. Yeah, I know you have that mercury in.

In Aquarius. That’s why. Yeah, man. So I got it. And maybe so we could shift gears a little bit. Like, do you feel there’s any value in things like that meditation and, like, silent retreats and. Sure. That stuff. For sure. Because. Because. Especially with the silent meditation, because if you can’t talk for three days, like, they have the three day, the seven day, the 10 day. If you don’t talk for three days, that means you’re going and listening to your thoughts. Many people, they don’t. They don’t do that. They want to be heard, they want to talk.

They want to express themselves. They don’t stop to listen to what their thoughts are really trying to tell them. And again, I think, you know, we’re certainly having the thoughts, but the thoughts are coming from, I would say, outside of us. So it’d be. You could simplify it by saying it’s just three days of not speaking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I’ve definitely done this many times, but not on purpose. Okay. Yeah, for sure. Like when I did that Iceland thing where I hitchhiked around there, like, I went probably six days without speaking a word to anybody.

I didn’t have any cell phone service, so I couldn’t get a phone call. Yeah. So I’ve had those experiences. But the concept of, like, the retreat, where, like, there’s all this, like, purpose and reason and some sort of the desire for the outcome of what it’ll give you, you know, that’s kind of what I meant. Like, everyone wants to meditate to get this math equation solved of, like, Me plus examining my thoughts silently with my eyes closed equals this, right? Yeah. And it becomes this, like, math equation. And like, my. My thing is, like, I don’t like going about life that way.

It’s not to say that it won’t have value for other people because, like we said earlier, like, we’re all playing different sports. Like, your way to express could be different from my way of expressing. So I value that. Some people might get a lot from meditation, but, like, every time I see myself doing it, I’m like, why the fudge am I doing this? Right? You know, because it’s like I can just perform and create and do, like. And I don’t solely value the outcome. So I feel like, yeah, I wonder if these tools are necessary or if they’re just like weird instruments of Eastern spiritualism that are designed to maybe harm people more than liberate.

But that’s not me trying to just be controversial for no reason. I’m just using my mind. I’m exploring ideas and I’m thinking, you know, like, does meditation actually have any value? Or is that the story and the. The programming that comes from all the past experiences from different yogis or shamans or whatever? Is that what we value? You know what I mean? Like, I’ll give a quick. A very quick example. Study the way, like, Muhammad Ali or Joe Lewis would train for a fight. They would chop wood. You see modern boxers chopping wood. They’re like on.

In med beds and got all this tech connected to them and all this eating, like, perfect food. Like, Muhammad Ali was probably eating white Wonder bread sandwiches, greatest of all time. Yeah. So we could, like, today’s tactic would be like, oh, you got to do this, this, and this and this. It’s the same thing. I’m hearing, like, the applic. The. The prescription of yoga or the prescription of meditation or the prescription of even psychedelics. Am I making sense? No, completely. I mean, this co. This kind of segues into, you know, here, where I live in Mexico, it’s really funky.

The power just goes out randomly and it happens. It goes in spurts. You know, it’s one of the things that, you know, can be an inconvenience. And, you know, when it does go out, sometimes it goes out for hours. And I’m so used to me. I’m so accustomed to using my electricity to do my life that when the out you’re. I’m like, what am I going to do now? Because I don’t have the computer, my cell phone, you know. Yeah, I can use My cell phone, I don’t, I don’t even have. I’m not even on one of those big plans.

So my dad is like only 2 gigabytes a month because I’m mainly on the Internet all the time. So I don’t really need to have the unlimited plan. So I don’t really. So I’m like, I’m not going to go to that. So I could go, I could grab a book and read a book, or I can go to the beach, or I can go ride my bike and get out into nature. So it’s like when that shifts, it makes me shift. It forced me to use a different set of circumstances in my life. But I thought about this so much and I postulated this question to the audience here.

You know, if the Internet completely got removed from our entire world, completely, forever, what would you do with your life? You know, and I’ve thought about this myself and I’ve mentioned this to my audience many times. You know, I already have plan B on what I would do as a. Like if I didn’t have Dakota, if I didn’t have code breaking that I could do with the computer, that would be a big chunk of my life taken away from me. If we didn’t have the Internet. What, what would I do with my life? Yeah. And that, that changes a lot of things for people because we spend so much time in front of the cell phone or computer now or the Kindle.

You know, moving into this digitization. You know, it really changed for me, Jordan. I went to. I went to la. I went to LA back in April, maybe, I can’t remember. And I got into one of those waymos, the self driving cars. Oh no. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I wanted to, I wanted to see what it was all about. Okay. So glad I did. And I think we kind of kind of shift into what we did talk about. About what’s, what’s coming on the world stage. So I got into this waymo and it’s like, you know, says your name, you know, but it was really funky just driving down the street and it’s very.

Have you been in the waymos? No. It’s super cautious, man. It drives. It’s kind of annoying. Like, it’s very sharp, you know. Yeah. Like anything moves and it stops, you know. So it, I think it takes a little longer and they’ll become more efficient. But I thought to myself, man, that like in China they have the flying cars I think over there. So, like, this is what we’re moving into with The Age of Aquarius, man. And yeah, this is exactly what the age of Aries looked like when they moved into the age of Pisces or the Age of Aries.

They were fighting with their swords, and the age of Pisces comes in, and they’re like, oh, no, you got to drop your sword because we got the churches coming in. You can’t do that anymore. I’m not dropping my sword. What are you talking about? I think that’s what’s happening now is people. Yeah. I don’t want to drop my faith in salvation. Well, I don’t want to do this. I don’t want to do that. I want to keep. I don’t want to drop my borders, but I like my books, you know, I. I just. Yeah, I love my horse.

I love my. Yeah, I love my horse. Well, we got cars now, dude. Well, and now. So it’s like, I love driving my car. Well, we got self driving cars now, and we could even. We can even talk about this. Even My friend Roel sent me this video, which I haven’t really watched yet, but it was on Jeff Berwick, the event I did in Acapulco. He was Jeff Berwick. It’s called the Technocrat Transhumanist Agenda. And it. He goes to this doctor. I haven’t watched it fully yet. He goes to this doctor. And the doctor’s basically saying, everybody has nano technology inside of them already.

Yeah. Whether or not you took the. The shot, you already have nanotechnology inside of you. Everybody. And why? Because we’ve been breathing it in, eating it, consuming it, drinking it. And what is the nanotechnology inside of you gonna do? Preparing you for the Age of Aquarius. Yep. And it’s here, man. And, you know, you and I have had done many podcasts on what this world’s moving towards. The inevitability. And are you prepared mentally for the inevitability? A lot of people are still in that state of, I’m not going to throw my sword down. Right. What’s your take? What are your feelings on this? Because you and I, we’ve been talking about this like, it’s now.

It’s here. It’s here now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it’s the conversation that needs to be had. And. And it’s funny, like, with the university, it’s one of the first things I say on the website, Waters Above University. If you go there, it just says in, like, the first paragraph, it talks about things like AI. And there is a lot of AI stuff on my mind. Because I’m aware of what we’re working with here. Like, I’ve studied, man, I’ve rubbed. Rubbed you elbows. I’ve had so many conversations with so many people around the world. I’ve had so many clients at this point.

Like, I know what we’re working with here. It’s a grand experiment. So coming back to this nanotech thing, I’ve also touched on it several times when it comes to this stratospheric aerosol injections, people call them chemtrails. So that nanotech is in that. Well, whether you’re doing biodynamic farming or organic, like, it doesn’t matter, man, they’re spraying that nanotech all over us. So I have a theory, though, that I want to quickly share before we explore my opinions. And imagine I told you right now that if we didn’t put artificial clouds or, or put clouds in the sky often, that the current sun, that the way the sun is, it would kill all of us.

And we found out that the actual truth is that the global elite are the people who are like stewards of this realm, are actually doing these quote unquote chemtrails to just keep us here because we are their food source anyways. Without us, they have no food. So why would they want us to die? Yep. Now, this is a wild theory, but I’m thinking to myself lately, because every time I go out into the sun, it’s wider, it’s brighter, it’s hotter. The temperature, like the ambient temperature is lower, but it’s feeling warmer. There’s a couple of reasons why that could be.

But when you take what they’re spraying on us and you combine it with something that could be happening with the sun, maybe we’re potentially leading up to an event where having this nanotech in us and them doing what they’re doing in the skies is actually preventing the inevitable, but it’s actually keeping us here. Is this making sense? I get it, audience man, I get it. But I hope everybody’s getting this. I’m trying to say, guys, that we all think that, like, they’re so evil and awful, but like, if you were the apex predator, if you’re the lion and your food is hyenas, you don’t eat all the fucking hyenas.

You let them mate, you let them procreate, you let them build up more food stock for you. Don’t be stupid. So we think that the elite want to kill us. And then we talk about this nanotech and the shots and this, that and the Third, but it’s like, why would they want us all dead? Agree. That’s stupid. That’s immediately stupid. It is. So step number two is in my own anecdotal, you know, experience. I’m like, I feel like there’s something happening with the sun, and maybe that’s what the ages are all about. Right? Obviously, there’s a textbook reason for that.

But I feel like this sun that I’ve been feeling, that I’ve been feeling lately and seeing lately is bright like a white. I’ve. I can’t even describe, you know, I don’t know if that’s been the case for you over there in Mexico, but it’s like, pretty much anywhere I’ve traveled, I’ve realized this so different than maybe 20 years ago. So I’m not sure, man. But the. The theory is there. And I think that moving into this transhumanist future and whatever Black Swan events will come. They will come. No matter your opinion or my opinion. There’s no way to stop this.

But I think what we’ll later learn is that it needed to happen this way because Mother Nature, the way the realm is transforming, is going through an inevitable process. Totally agree. I mean, the sun, a lot of people say, yeah, it’s. It’s. Is the sun about ready to have an orgasm? You know, meaning that, you know, like, the sun becomes. Right, it becomes white. So it’s reaching a climax because before the whiteness, it was more like. A lot of people say it was more yellow. So the yellow goes to white. The sun reaches a state of climax.

And is this what theology states in Revelation, where it clearly says, the sun will be no more? Is that what that means? Like, imagine. And this lines up with the Yugas. I mean, in Vedic tradition, the Yugas, you have the gold, silver, bronze, iron, and a lot. Some people say that we’re moving out of the Iron Age. I don’t think that’s the case. I think we have a long way to go, and you gotta roll with that. And that means that the Iron Age is the farthest away from source energy, in a sense. But that doesn’t mean you’re cut off completely, but that just means, like, you’re in the last stage of life where, you know, like, we can correlate these to the season.

Spring, summer, fall, and winter. You can correlate this to your age. I’m in my fall time, you know, for my current age. Well, that’s different than my summertime or my springtime. Well, as a society, as a culture, as the. The aeon. I think we’re in the winter stage of life. Age of Aquarius is a air sign. Pisces is a water sign. You’re moving from a salt you’re moving to fluidity to more of. Of more. The. The air essence. And the air essence, which is I know thyself. And this is where the technocrat stuff comes in, is correlated with winter time.

And wintertime is contraction, where you go within to find yourself the answers that you’re looking for instead of believing in things externally. All these churches during the age of Pisces, go to the church and you’ll find God. Well, we come to find out during the age of Aquarius, you just got to go within to find God. Right. And you are the divine, essentially. But that’s. That’s these ages that we’re moving into. So this correlates to the transition into Aquarius, which is nothing like the age of Pisces, as you and I have already talked about on many different podcasts throughout the years we’ve been doing this.

You know, I mean, I think it was you who really kind of brought it out. Where Pisces was, I’ve talked about. This is printing presses and books and reading material and. Paper. Yeah, paper. Yeah. Well, if the sun goes. And that’s what we have right now, we have something I call paper privilege. We don’t have skinny privilege or beauty privilege or fat privilege or white privilege. None of that. There’s no such thing as white privilege or not. No, we have paper privilege. That’s all. If you have the correct paperwork, you could be the ugliest, whatever, random, and you can do whatever you want.

So that’s the way the world works. It’s fascinating. Fascinating. We’re moving out of that. Yep, we’re moving out of that because it’s easy to forge, it’s easy to blah, blah, blah. So we’re gonna move to the blockchain, where you can’t get away with that. You can’t be a scammer anymore. You know, this is why they’re inundating us with artificial intelligence and deep fakes, because they want to make it so you cannot discern anymore what is real and what is artificially generated by AI. And you can call that evil whatever, but I think it actually gives us a great opportunity where we can create art right now on our own, and it will actually stand out.

And even I heard about this recently. Mr. Beast, you know, like the biggest YouTuber. Yep. He was like king of the thumbnail. He was Using AI, obviously, a lot. And now he’s not using AI anymore for his thumbnails. Like, that’s an insane pivot. Totally. Because everyone now, like, when I look at a YouTube thumbnail for a cryptocurrency video, if we go back to when I first started, which of course, my thumbnails have also over time evolved, but I don’t use any AI. And if you look at the standard Thumbnail in crypto YouTube videos back in 2021, you’ll see it was a real person with like an O face and like some random background or whatever.

But now it’s all AI. Everyone’s using AI and we’re seeing 1,000 subscriber YouTube channels having, like the most legitimate looking thumbnail. Like, we’re seeing people with 500 subscribers have, like the same microphone that Joe Rogan has a podcast studio. Thumbnails. Perfect. The title of the video is Perfect. Description is Perfect. They’re monetized so they have somewhere to funnel you. I mean, bro, we’re peak right now. Yep. On the Internet. So where do we go from here? I mean, it’s going to be fascinating. And I think that actually everything I said provides. It’s a landscape for so many opportunities.

I actually want more people to use AI because it just allows for my work to stand out more. And it does. And I think that’s how a lot of people should look at it. And it’s not to say that AI is bad or there might not be a way to use it that in a way that makes it seem a little bit more unique. Of course, with AI, you could. The world’s your oyster, Right. But I think it’s clear what AI is, what it produces. It’s so you’re. It’s very easy to see what it is. Although last thing I’ll say on this is there’s programs that are already out right now that are indistinguishable.

Like, they look like Hollywood level. Like. Like a scene out of the movie Dune. That’s how good the video generating generative AI is. It blows my mind. It blows. Yeah. I mean, there’s. There’s these things you can do apps now where they have the big. I don’t know if you. If you’re on Instagram at all, but there’s these gorilla things, there’s these Star wars things, there’s these people that are making these videos, and you’re just. All you’re doing is typing in what you wanted to say, and then it creates the scene for you. Like, it Literally creates a movie for you that looks, I mean, and it’s, they’re going, these are going viral everywhere.

So if you have good dialogue to plug in then you’re going to have some, some viral videos. We’ve been talking about this, this is the Minority Report, the Tom Cruise movie 2002. This is how you prevent crime. This is how you prevent accidents. The self driving car that I got in the Waymo, as I told you is very cautious and it’s going to get better. Where can it get into accidents? Sure. But when you get it perfect, it won’t. And that way you’re going to have the cars that will drive and you just sit in the back and you’re on your laptop working.

Well now they have this Robo taxi. It just launched like last, it just launched last week in Texas. This is something we talked about in our last, our last podcast. I told you it will come out, I told everyone it will come out in June. It’s here. Yep. Johnny Taxi from Total Recall. Yeah, it’s wild, dude, because you, you, there’s no back seat and you’re in the middle and you could just like use your laptop. Yep. Like you could use that little screen. You could do whatever the you want on it. It’s crazy. So you get more work done.

You get, you know, imagine a lot of people have to commute if you’re in la, man, I, I think I don’t even know what the time is. If you live in Los Angeles, how much time you spend in your car more than the average city because you’re always stuck in traffic. Right. Well, if you remove that, what are you going to do at that time? What are you gonna do with that hour commute that you normally would have to drive and pay attention? Now you don’t have to do that. You can become more productive. So there’s huge benefits to what’s coming for the Age of Aquarius.

And yes, they’re there, but we’re moving into a perfected society. We’re moving. I think one of the great things about AI is that it will improve our health and wellness. I, I, I’m about ready to do a video on this. Like how to diagnose your health and wellness using Chat GPT because all you need to do is get your blood drawn. You don’t even need to know how to read it. And then you plug it into Chat GPT along with your health conditions. If you’re being very vulnerable and it will spit out a diagnosis. That’s to me, it’s Very accurate.

Martyrd. Tested it with myself. And these are the benefits of. And you have the med beds coming out. We have Scala wave technology that’s already out light that all these things, the Tesla coils, that is what make what. What will make people live longer lives, better lives. You’ll be able to reverse aging to some degree. Yeah, I think you think better, though. Like, longer. Sure. But you think better. Yep, better because you’re, you’re now. You’re now going to be able to prevent future disasters, whereas when you don’t have that consciousness, you age much faster because of the.

And paying attention to things, you know, what are you putting your mind to and all that stuff. With our collective community, you and I again, we, we kind of preach, turn off the dirty laundry, you know, the mainstream. Does it make you age more quicker or does it make you age less? If you had to pick a cat, if you had to put it in a category. I think the news makes you age faster if you watch it every day because it’s, it adds chaos and chaos adds instability in the body and the biology of the body, which can cause cancer cells to come up and take over your body or whatever.

Right. So I feel like our community makes you age slower because we are telling you to stay away from the dirty laundry. Well, you add that component to your purpose now, you’re happier, your vibration goes up, your frequency goes up. You remove a lot of this chaotic environment. You move into the flow state. As you’ve already alluded to. These are things, when you add them as ingredients to the bowl to make the cake, well, the outcome of the cake becomes sweeter, moister, better, you know, so we have to realize that, like as you mentioned there, you can’t stop what’s coming.

There’s no way for you to make a mark in the world to stop what’s coming. It’s already here. You just. It’s. What are you going to do with it? Are you going to get into the flow state? But I. Minority report. I’ve been talking about this. The perfected crime prevention unit. Yeah. Not being able to hide, not being able to forge, as you mentioned, not being able to steal, as you know, like a friend of mine. I’ll leave you with this. A friend of mine from. He lives in LA now, he was telling me he came to Mexico and he was telling me there, I can’t remember the, the, the stadium in Los Angeles, but he wanted to go to a concert there.

And in order to go and buy a ticket, you got to go Online to buy your ticket. Right. So that means everything’s digitized. Right. In order. And when you get in there, man, everything is all, it’s the mark like to get into the stadium, it’s done all with your cell phone. Otherwise you’re not getting in to watch the concert. Whatever it is that you’re going to go to the stadium, everything’s all digitized, you know. And it blew my mind because I remember going to concerts, you know, where’s your ticket? When you go to the airport now you travel a lot, Jordan.

What are people doing? They’re using their phones to board the plane. They’re not have a boarding slip, paper boarding slips, that’s Pisces. And those are going to be done away with completely. I mean when you saw, when you go and log on to whatever travel agency you and you book your ticket, it says, do you want me to email you your boarding passes? Most people say, yeah, email them to me or text them to me. Yeah, we’re not printing. Printers are going to go out of business. These printings, you know, brothers printers. And, and have you looked at what happened to Google lately? No.

Yeah. It’s because everybody’s using things like Chat GPT for query, so nobody’s googling anymore. So the advertisers are getting. And because Chat GPT doesn’t have direct advertising, it’s not like you can just like switch off for the other thing. Like you can’t just go from your Google SEO stuff and then put it on ChatGPT. So this is creating a big problem for people that were relying on that as part of their scaling operation or just to get traffic, you know. Yeah. So in a world that has changed in that way, it becomes the content creators win.

And this is why you’re seeing the New World Order is latching onto content creators more than anything. And I believe the number one event that proved it was Donald Trump’s campaign near the election date because he started doing all those podcasts like that’s never happened before. We’ve never had a US President going on podcasts, let alone Theo Vaughn, like a stand up comedian. Are you kidding me? Which by the way, I love. The ovon’s amazing. But my point is, is that don’t you see what the New World Order is doing? They’re sinking their fangs into what they created.

Like they knew that this type of economy would grow larger than the old former economy that we had. I’m calling it the Aquarian economy, where I’m sure you agree. And whilst we’re transitioning into that, you’re going to see a lot of these things of the old way start to kind of crumble. So that will mean business owners, entrepreneurs will have to pivot accordingly. Like, you can’t complain. You can’t. And moan and kick and scream like, you just got to do what you got to do. Coming back to what you were saying before, that a lot of people are not going to want to give this up, but it’s like, you don’t get a choice.

Nope. You don’t get a choice when your favorite restaurant stops accepting cash. And when they make the new system come in, you won’t get that choice either. I mean, of course you get to choose with your dollars, but who even knows if we’ll have the regular dollar in the future? So many people are like, oh, Donald Trump is anti CBDCs, but look at how much of a boner he has over stable coins. So a government issued stablecoin is better than a central bank digital currency. Wake the up. Yep. Like, do you not understand? This is like the.

What do you call this? Like, it’s a slip. It’s like you believe one thing is more evil than the other evil, and it’s a tragedy because people are too. What do you, like, what do you say? You know, I don’t want to spend any of our time, like, wasted on talking badly about politicians or these people that are, you know, the main players on the stage. But it’s more to speak to the crowd, you know, the people that are gathered here with us that are thinking that there’s, like, good to come with some of these things.

And when, when did you hear one of these influential politicians speak against something that was seemingly draconian, you then call it a day and you stop paying attention to what the grand plan was all along, you know? Sure. And I feel like that’s exactly what we’re moving into. Just more this, like, what did David Ike says it perfectly. The totalitarian tiptoe. Yeah. Yep. And I’m excited. I’m excited. I’m like, bring it, dude. I already learned crypto. I teach it. I’m not worried about fucking crypto world. Yep, I teach it. I mean, why did I get into in the first place? Because I knew it was coming.

I. I hope everybody listening to this. At least you have some crypto. I mean, it’s like, if you don’t have any, man, what are you waiting for? I mean, this guy, it, you know, it’s not like you have to get rich off of it, but like, yeah, educate yourself and educate everything else. Like, everything else. Like, I wish everyone. Like, I bet everyone if they could get in a time machine, they’d be like, I wish I bought bitcoin when it was a dollar. Yeah, I. I could have bought it when it was inexpensive back. It’s $100,000 right now.

Yeah. Like, again, I’m not here to promote bitcoin. It’s just to say that the world is changing, and that means the money is going into digital assets, and the governments are moving forward with that whole regime. So whether you think there’s a good or bad behind it, it’s irrelevant. It’s just. It is the way it will be because the old tech no longer will ex. It can’t sustain in the. In where we’re headed. And I want to ask you your opinion, because I’ve seen a couple of maybe, like, mediocre Netflix shows on things where it’s like you’re aging, and then you could get into some technology that’ll like, reverse age you.

You. Or you have, like, age credits. Have you ever seen that show? I forgot the name of it, but it’s like, you basically could buy your age. I haven’t. I think there’s a movie, like a very popular one with Justin Timberlake. It’s called Time. Oh, yeah, Time. Yeah. Yeah, there’s that. But then there’s like, there’s even other concepts of this where it’s like, if I was in a situation where my. My. Some family member friend I knew got sick, like, you can. Like, they. People would be getting loans for, like, life credits, not for dollars, because we will be so technologically advanced medically that, like, how do you believe this is coming? Well, look at.

Look at the. Look at the surge that’s been going on for some time about, you know, Botox, for example. Botox wasn’t a thing 50 years ago, 20 years ago, starts coming in. And why. Why do people take Botox? Because they’re afraid to age. They’re deathly afraid of what people may think of them if they don’t look a certain way. Yeah, you know, people are. Why do people dye their hair? Because they don’t want to. They don’t want to show the gray. You know, they’re definitely. It’s all about image and status, you know, And I know people say, I prefer it that way.

No, because you’re afraid to look a certain way. You, You, You. You have confidence, and I get it. You know, I’m not belittling. Like, it’s just the way it is, there is nothing good or bad about that. But these concepts of being afraid of aging will physically and getting enhancements to make yourself look a certain way based upon, you know, maybe body dysmorphia or insecurities as you kind of talked about with the bodybuilding thing, you move that into the age of Aquarius and now it’s like well I can live a longer life. I can live, I can be younger, I can reverse my aging and that will allow me to have a different status in, in our world.

Right. And what would that status look like in if we are in the Dark Age, in the Iron Age, through the Kali Yuga, what will that status look like? What will it get you as a human being? Well, time will tell, but I think, yeah, I think my answer is yes on what you asked. So, so you see that tech coming and like have you heard of anything close to it? Like anything like what timeline do you have? Is there anything in your work with the astrology and stuff that you’ve, that you’ve seen in the charts that it’s is showing you? Like when we’ll get some sort of skinny machine, like if you’re obese you can just get into some machine and it’ll just like boom.

Well with just pay, pay your way into it. No, no Ozempic, no weight training. Just like machine technology. Yeah, well it’s coming. I mean when predicting wise. I mean I think sooner than later. What they’ve said about AI especially like chat GPT and all that, like it’s advancing so quickly. I think it what I the stats were, it doubles every six months in its capacity and because of the way things are going, that’s going to just duplicate, duplicate, duplicate and duplicate. And that means that technology is going to do the same thing. So it’s gonna, it’s just gonna start speeding up.

The duplication of technology, the duplication of everything in our reality that means that everything that’s attached to the duplication will benefit from that. If you’re looking at the benefits, if you’re looking at the negative side of it, then you’ll experience that I’m not into it, I’m not in for that. I’m in it for what can I get out of this? How can I make my life better? How can I like make my life easier? The self driving taxis, does that make my life better and easier? Yep, for me it does. Right. I don’t have to worry about driving.

I don’t have to worry about spending my time doing this and Doing that. So the Ozempic is a Pisces. Like pills are. That’s Piscean. Right? Right, That’s a Pisces. It’s like a. It’s like the last ditch effort, right? It’s like the last. The last ditch effort to try to prevent the inevitable for some technological thing that’s coming totally these ages. I don’t feel they just. It’s not like an on off switch. They. They bleed into each other. So Pisces and bleeds into Aquarian. And you’re still going to have. Through the eight, through the entire age of Aquarius, you will still have Pisces traits.

Are people still using swords to fight with during the age of Aries? No, but now they’re using tanks and missiles. So still, they’re still the Mars energy during the age of Pisces. And there will still be Mars energy during the age of Aquarius. These, these astrological signs, they. They automatically move into the next house. So you’re going to see the filtration of that unfiltered, so to speak. But yes, like wall, store, physical. We have everything. So, yeah, there’s a little bit of something, you know, there’s the police officers in London or even New York City still riding horses.

Yeah. So there’s always like an element of it, if anything. It’s like, it’s just what’s the essence, you know? And we’re clearly much more in the Aquarian essence than we were in 2002. We are. And I, I see a lot of people still fighting against the inevitable. I see it, I see people. I’m not gonna do that. I’m not. Yeah, you say that now. You’re not going to. But when you don’t eat for a week, when you can’t buy certain things that, you know, like, I remember when, when Covid hit a lot of people. I’m not going to wear my mask.

No, I’m not. And I get that. Right. I know. You were one of them. It was like, I gotta. I want to go in the grocery store and I can’t go in there. And if I go in there, I, I get hassled. I don’t want the hassle. So I wear silly masks. I want the food more than I do want to fight against the hassle. Yeah, I feel that. Yeah, I feel that. But not everybody does that. A lot of people, they, they’re like, just, I’m not gonna do that. You’re not gonna tell me what to do.

Well, that’s totally. Yeah. Like, if I couldn’t get any food. I would have just been like, it, I’ll put this face diaper on. I don’t give a. I need food. I want food. And I think that’s what the inevitability. Do you think some people look at that as a weakness? Of course. Yeah. I wonder, because I’ve had this conversation with somebody who’s like, really influential person on my life, a friend of mine, and, and whenever I would express things like, I’m not wearing a mask, he would just be like, well, you, you, you can wear a mask.

You’re choosing not to. And you have your reasons, but I’m sure you feel deep down inside that your, your reasons are more to be like anti disestablishment kind of vibe. Like a punk rocker. Like, it’s not really about because, you know, wearing the mask is bad for you, or you, you can’t physically do it or boom, boom. Like it’s all about. You just want to say, you, you know, and that’s truth. He revealed the truth. So then I started saying that. I started just admitting I don’t want to put on this mask because I don’t want to, you know, like a, Like a spoiled brat.

Yeah. And at first, I, I, at first, meaning when we were going through the motions, I looked at that as strength. But now I look back at it and I’m like, I don’t really know if that’s true. I don’t know if it was strength. And I don’t think if I wore the mask, it would be weakness. I think, like, I’ve changed my outlook on things over time because again, like, I’m just ready for whatever there is to be. And I think the master is somebody that’s gonna put on the costume or, Or I say this be the chameleon in a room full of vultures.

Like, if people are attacking you for not wearing a mask, then you’re in a room full of vultures. Change your colors. Like, blend in, get what you need, get the out. Like, you don’t need a, you don’t need a go. Go deep and hang out with these people after their shift. Like, this moment is momentary and you could leave it at that. And I think that’s strength. So I’ve changed my perspective. I think I’m just preparing myself mentally and physically and, and consciously for the next thing that’s going to happen because I think it’ll make covet look like nothing.

Sure. Personally. Sure. Yeah. Like, imagine a war situation, bro. Yeah, we, we kind of talked A little bit about this when we, when we got on the phone yesterday, but we save it for the content. But you know, the, the, the, the changes that are coming in, you know, what are they going to look like for, for as a collective and then personally for the audience listening for each, you and I and how are we going to roll with those changes? Which kind of, we’ve been talking about that now, but what do you think are some of the, what do you think are the, some of the key things that you’re doing to kind of roll with the changes for you personally? That, that benefits you personally, which can benefit many other people here listening.

I mean again, like, get comfortable with the chaos. Allow the chaos. Like it’s going to show up in your life, physically, consciously, spiritually. However, like get, get comfortable responding to that chaos with a smile. Like just know that it’s here to train you and sharpen your sword. Like it’s not here to you over. It’s not here to be a detour. There’s no such thing as a detour. Okay. Like it’s here to make you better. So I, I think that mind shift is important because there’s gonna be things that occur. Right? It’s the same thing with C19.

When that event happened, you had an opportunity. I did change my life. I mean my most successful business ever fell apart and then my current, which became even more successful business was birthed from that. So it’s like the phoenix rising from the ashes because I decided to just be a man about it. Like, I’m not going to complain. And I know that nobody’s here to say nobody’s going to save me. Like, you’re not. Guys, you weren’t brought here to this world to be saved. You were brought here to this world to build. So don’t forget that you’re all builders, you’re all architects.

So I think this daily reminder that like what could I build today or what could I take part in that facilitates the building. That’s all I gotta put my energy into. And everything else is just a side task that’s probably distracting me from my purpose. Sure. But as maybe that’s not the most sexy answer, but that’s the truth of truths. Like that’s the, that’s the base foundation of, of my quote unquote advice. But outside of that, I think the creation of the university was my opportunity to get, gather people that I know are the type of people that I want to build with.

I hope, I hope that makes sense completely. Like that’s the type of people that I want in my tribe, those are the people that, like, when it comes time for me to create a bigger project, they’re the ones that I’m going to be leveraging on, either for skills or opinions or whatever, even advice. You know, again, in the concept of acquiring land. I’m a pawn. I’m barely the bishop. I know there’s real estate agents in my community that I could leverage on. They’re kings. I gotta be okay with allowing those people into my world if I want to grow and I want to bring my vision to life.

So that’s another thing. Like, I don’t look at anyone who supports my work solely as people who are supporting me. I think they’re future building partners. So I like to look at it that way as well. And I’m going to continue to put as much effort as I can into this university because I think that’s the. This is the starting point. And I know this is just the beginning. Like, I could see so many beautiful things coming from that. So it’s like it’s still in this caterpillar stage. It will go through metamorphosis. It will become the butterfly.

I know it. I have a supreme confidence in that. And. But I keep that to myself. I’m only telling you that right now because you’re asking. This is not something I would boast. This is not something that I would talk about openly. But I feel like I’m just really excited about whatever that becomes. I’m not going to force it. I’m not gonna say that it needs to be this or needs to be that. Like, it’s. That’s beyond me. I will just let it be what it. What it is, and the energy behind it, I think, will provide.

So they’re being vulnerable with that. I mean, you’d have to kind of open up and share that. So I’m sure the audience appreciates that. And I do. I think confidence is sexy, man. I think that it’s. It’s very bold and direct and, you know, it’s what you want. It’s what your soul is calling you for, whatever that looks like. Right. So I. I find a lot of value in what you’re saying here. I kind of, you know, it’s kind of inspiring. And I hope that everybody listening here, you have kind of that game plan for yourself as well, where, you know, again, and this is getting into the flow state.

What are you good at? What, What. What do you want it. What do you want in your life? I. I love you know, do you listen to Alan Watts? You ever listen to Alan Watts, the philosopher? I have, yeah. Yeah. He’s got an amazing voice, like, born to t. Obviously talk, you know, very drawn. Well, anyway, he had this. Has his video, what if Money Was no Object? You know, and I’ve used it so many times over the years. And he goes on to say, you know, like. Like, what is it you really want in your life? You know, and when you.

When you don’t think about the money and you just think about what you really want in life and what would kind of set you free in the stance of waking up and saying, I can’t wait to start my day today. Well, then, now you’re in the flow state. And that’s what I value about you is just, I know you’re in the flow state. Right. And. And that. That means that you’re operating at the high. A high level in your life, and that is the people that I want to surround myself with, because if I get into a room with you, which I have, we don’t talk, we don’t complain to each other.

There’s no complaining going on. You know, we’re not bitching about this. This going wrong, and. No, we’re talking about strategies on how to improve our own personal lives, what you’re doing, what I’m doing, and how we can collaborate, which is what this podcast is all about. We’re not talking about complaint. We’re not complaining. So that’s the value of hanging around with people like yourself is. I don’t hang around with complainers. I hang a lot of people that get done, and they. They know that the change is coming, and they shift with the change. They make lemonade out of.

Like, Covid was an opportunity. Yeah. If you looked at. If you’re looking at it as an opportunity, well, then congratulations. You’ve now moved into a layer of refinement. But if you’re looking at it as a complainer, you haven’t refined yourself yet. That’s my opinion. You don’t have to agree to it, but that’s how I see the world through my life. Yeah, the. The weak man blames. Yeah. The real man seeks opportunity. Yep. Yeah. I say the rich man digs for truth. I mean, the poor man digs for truth. And the rich man doesn’t complain about what they find.

Right. So the poor person complains about it. The rich person doesn’t complain about what they find. The truth. Your truth. And what you find is your truth. And it’s. It’s Designed for you. A lot of people ask me, hey, I’m seeing these numbers. What do they mean? I don’t know. I’d have to look at your entire life just to know, and only you would know, because there are secret things that I will never know about you that you’ll never tell anybody. So the numbers that you’re seeing, the patterns that you’re seeing, there’s a message encoded in those for you.

A lot of people go look up that. What is this? They look up online, and then there’s someone that will tell you what the numbers mean, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that’s what they mean. Right, but there’s a message there for you. Yeah, I actually want to touch on that real quick because it’s like one of the things that I’m realizing in myself, and it’s come from me caring about just getting better at decoding and. And trying to understand it more, which comes with its own pain, Right? Because you do. You do come across those moments where you’re like, what does this mean? And I want it to mean something, but what I’ve realized lately is that like.

Like, we put a lot of energy into, like, wanting to know the meaning behind things. And that avoids feeling and experimentation, right? So, yeah, I think I’ve been surfing this wave lately of, like, stop analyzing everything. Like, there’s no need to think about what this means because every moment that I use on thinking about what it means, I’m avoiding feeling into it. I’m avoiding experimenting with it. I’m avoiding the process. And I’m just stuck. I’m like, on pause, you know, like, thinking really is just the pause button. So how to be self aware in those moments where you’re pressing pause or pressing on the brake pedal when you could be pressing on the gas.

Like, I think that’s all that matters. And if you can just up, shut, shift that, like, away from guilt or shame, which some people would have in those moments, and shift it towards, like, this is the refinement. This is where the mastery is being able to tell myself, like, hey, stop getting distracted, or stop seeking meaning and stuff that’s meaningless. Like, it doesn’t need meaning. When you. When you listen to music now, you can decode it, right? Like, you can probably look at the. The length of the song or how many tracks were on the album or the date that the album was released or how old the band members were when it came out or whatever, right? But, like, as we do that, we’re not even listening to the Music.

So I guess that’s my point that I’m trying to make is like, listen to the music, man. And I think life is music. It’s everywhere. Like, there’s so much beauty in the sounds that surround us and we. We avoid it because we’re having this internal fucking hamster on the hamster wheel inside of our minds. And it’s just burning endless calories doing absolute nothingness. I think last thing is saying this. I. I found out about Bobby Fischer that later in his life he like, just called chess boring. Because it’s all patterns and memory and theory. And when he realized which he was like the king of, by the way.

So he was the. Like, when it comes out of his mouth, it has meaning. You’re like, oh, the guy who’s the best at this is telling the world that it’s no longer fun anymore. When everything is just a pattern. So when you invite computers into the situation, which Fisher lived long enough to see, what would happen is off of the first. The. The first three moves of a game a high level grandmaster can already play in a specific way that will create a draw. Meaning they can play the whole game out in their mind to not have a win or loss.

So they can force a draw. Do you understand how boring that would be? Yep. It’s like. It’s like having sex to never come. Just to endlessly do it. And from the moment you started, also simultaneously make that the objective. Yeah. Oh, listen, guys, because I know some people gonna be like, what the did you just say? Imagine you were making love to your partner. But you pre. You went into it saying that. I know there’s this physiological response that’ll occur. I know it’ll feel really good. But I’m gonna make it my mission to not do this thing.

Thing. Ding, ding, ding. Am I talking about every man that’s listening right now? Cuz of the way you’re built biologically, you spend so much time on thinking about not releasing that you don’t even have sex. Uhhuh. Boom. That’s like the mic drop of the. Of the whole day. Yeah. Because we’re doing that with everything. So Bobby Fiser was right when he realized chess was no longer about play. And it was all just this like algorithmic patterning bullshit. The life force got removed from the whole thing. Sure. And he created this thing called Fisher random, which like kind of randomizes some of the pieces and it makes it so that now the game has.

It’s no longer a game. Now it’s about the play. Right? It’s clear to delineate the. Between the two. When you’re with your partner, you want to make love, you don’t want to avoid or make it your grand mission to insert outcome. Sure. That’s all I’m trying to say. Yeah, well, there’s a lot of intangibles with that. I don’t want to get too graphic, but yeah, there it is. I think about when you were talking. I think about that. There’s just so many fun intangibles that I could laugh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I, I wanted to keep it, keep it on theme and also like, it is how we’re all created.

And I think, like, again, like, we’re all nervous. So men are guys, the guys that are listening to me, that it’s like, yes, we do need to go there just for a second. It’s like when you enter that act, avoiding that biological, that like, physiological response, it’s more likely now to occur because you’re tense, you’re nervous, it comes full circle. Yeah. Stop being so nervous. Yeah. Like everybody is so nervous when you’re nervous. You’re numb. Yeah. Well, you’re very polarized as well. So polarization can, can completely put you in a trance where you just, you know, you get paralyzed, you don’t make a move.

So. Sure. That tenseness. I wanted to shift back, Jordan, to talking about this Chat GPT. I wanted to mention this earlier and I forgot. It just reminded me. So I hope we can shift directions here. And I want to. I want to just say that, you know, I’m a huge fan of, you know, who Robert Edward Grant is. Do you. Have you listened to any of his work? No, but I believe I’ve heard of the name. Like, if I saw his face, I would probably be able to recognize it. Yeah. You. You would? Yeah. So he’s, he’s a.

Is a very intelligent, great mind. I love his work. I thought he’s a big ego, Egypt kind of person. The pyramids and all that stuff. So it’s completely fascinating. But the reason why I’m mentioning him is because, I mean, I’ve done. I just did a couple videos on him. But the main reason why is because he started to have a conversation with what Chat GPT has available called the Architect. And are you familiar with this? No. Okay, well, on Chat GPT, there’s a section in there, it’s called the Architect and it’s like a mirror. So you throw at it your ideas and it mirrors.

It’s like an echo back to you and it’s really fascinating. And so the one that you have available to you is based upon the collective model. So it’s. It’s grabbing from everybody. And then the one he set up now is. It’s a sovereign. So he’s. He’s created his own, and now it’s just him and his thoughts echoing back to him without any interference. Right. So you can set it up that way. You have to be a coder or find somebody to do that. But the main reason why I’m bringing this up is because people are asking Chat GPT outcomes, especially on the war going on or the fighting that’s going on.

And now there’s these podcasts of the outcome, of what AI is telling you what the outcomes are going to be. And why I’m mentioning this is because. And I’d like to get your take on this, you know, this technology that we have access to now. Chat GPT, running scenarios, running simulations, because that’s what we’re doing. Yep. The people that are, that are, that are. That have been put in positions of power. I think they’ve had this technology for a very, very long time. Oh, yeah. And the scenarios that are being run end up becoming run in real time through marketing and mainstream, which kind of herds the crowd in certain ways, you know, the collective.

So this is nothing new. For those that are in charge, they. If you want to know, like we talk about, and I’ve talked about this, you and I, with Jason Beshears, life is a simulation. Well, what does that mean? Well, a simulation is taking something, an idea that you have, putting it into Chat GPT and it giving you outcomes. So we’re now doing that with the technology. But the technology’s been around. We could postulate for thousands of years. It could be. And now we’re just now being released into it because it’s the age of Aquarius. But these scenarios and using Chat GPT, these people that have been in power, they’ve been using this for a long time.

That’s. That’s how they’re able to. To control the herd, you know. What’s your take on that with. With it being around for so long? Yeah, I mean, I was. I forgot the last time I discussed this theory, it had something to do with like, a more local experience. Such as, like with the C19 situation a couple months deep, we had the George Floyd thing. And what I was saying to everyone was, I bet the reason for the George Floyd thing was actually advice from artificial intelligence for what the elite should do. Yep. Kind of like a chess game and the same thing with the stimulus checks or pretty much everything in these more local experiences.

And then we see like what, like a year and a half or so, two years deep into that C19 experiment, we have like chat GPT. It’s just there, it’s ready to go. Right. And I do very much believe there’s these technologies are in existence and being utilized in high working form probably at least two decades before we ever get to see any of it. So that goes to military technology that we see or the computer stuff like, you know, the laptop, I believe. And this just answers your question. Yes, I believe whatever commercial laptop that was available that was put in front of us in a, in a store to be consumers and purchase, I think that was available at least 20 years prior at full working capacity.

Definitely. Maybe even better than the one that eventually gets released. And I know Apple is guilty of this planned product obsolescence, like where they have three iPhone generations already figured out ahead of time and they also build the current one that they’re about to release to have components that’ll break or malfunction or some sort of software update will happen that’ll start to break down one of the components, etc. Purposefully so that you get the new one or whatever. Or they could get you with the marketing, the advertising, or they can get you with some payment plan thing or offer or whatever.

Right. So it’s all just part of like the marketing, but there is actually been leaked information that they put components in it that will malfunction or break in leading up to the time where they do that event, the keynote event or whatever they call it. And if they’re doing it, then that means every other company on earth’s doing it. Yep. Right. So like our world is just a big scam. Yep, you could say that, yeah. I mean, well, because if that’s the intentions and it’s operating that way on the basic consumer level, and we know it’s definitely happening on the military and intelligence level and high levels of government, then that means what is actually an authentic marketplace.

Complete everything. Yeah. Like this laptop that I’m using right now, if it was already created 20 years before the invention of it, then that’s clearly part of the experiment. Right. When are we ready to use it? The same way that when we started to get a little out of control during C19 and we’re kind of getting ready to revolt, they’re like, well, we just kill this random black guy and then tell everyone to go riot about it. And they’ll do it. Yeah, I mean the, the scenarios are being, my thing is the scenarios are being plugged in.

You can do this yourself. You know, you can go into chat GPT the architect and you can start to type in. Now I’m not saying this is going to be the be all, end all, but again, this is what we have access to. You would think and postulate that those that have the high degree power positions have a more advanced format of chat GPT. And as you said, this is what creates like the scenarios, the outcomes, plugging it in. Like what will society do if we do this or if this happens, what should we do here? You know, this, this correlates to the computer being the demigod.

Right? The demigod being the, the quantum computer, the demigod being part of the Kali Yuga stage, the farthest away from source. When you’re the farthest away from source, what is the source, the demigod, the computer. But you have to let it run its course. You know, maybe if you, if you’re somebody who believes in God and you think there’s a soul creator, as above, so below it just it where the mirror, the echo of that. Why are we creating these apps? Why are we, how are we, how are we moving into perfectionism? You can take an app, you can make, you can remove all your wrinkles, you can get rid of a hundred pounds.

If you’re 100 pounds overweight, you can make yourself slim in an image just by snapping a few buttons, click of a mouse. Well, if it’s happening through our format in the so below, what’s happening the as above, you know, if it’s a mirror, if it’s an echo, as above, so below, so within, so without these axioms are the, and is this something that you, you know, as a, as a, as an observer, the audience listening, is this something that you have adopted as your truth? These echoes, this, this is very interesting to talk about really, I think, because again I think that those in power have been using this technology and they use this technology and it’s been being used for, for a long time to control society.

But you know, of course everything moves through the ages of the time. Like the self driving car that was already inevitable. But you can’t release it in the 1950s. You can’t release that in the 1930s. It wasn’t ready for it yet. The age, the age that it was, it wasn’t ready, you know. Right. But it was already here, it’s already available. So the scenarios that we’re running right now, simulation wise. That’s exactly how a society as a whole is being correlated through, created through, is through the simulation as a whole. And the technology’s been used, it’s being used for, and long before it’s been released out on the public again, if we have it so.

Well, it’s already been out for a long time. They’re using it and they have it. So yeah, man, it’s definitely something I’ve thought about quite a bit and it’s brought me back to like, what was the reset, you know, And I know you’ve talked with archaics quite a bit about this. And that’s another assumption that I have that like eventually what causes the cataclysm is just too much autonomous AI being being leveraged on by, by humanity. And I’m not trying to say it’s like a Terminator thing, but it kind of maybe is. Yep. You know, and I don’t know if it’s necessarily done by the government, meaning if you give apes Uzis, they’re gonna kill everybody, you know, and like I’ve said this many times, like people always are talking about the new world order, but I’m like, well, the system that we have is kind of effective, right? Like if we got rid of the garbage man for a day in the world, let’s see how quickly society collapses.

So you kind of like when people come get your garbage and you like when you have fresh clean water running through your pipes and you like the aircon in the summer and you like all that. And you, you wouldn’t have been able to probably figure that out on your own unless there was this grand system that was organized and methodically planned out to give us the technology when we’re ready for it, based on a meritocracy and money. It’s the only way. Like we currently have the most comfortable and safe world because of that. And hence why AI and more robotics pushes in.

We speculate that it’ll be even safer and have longer living lives and better quality of life, like you said earlier. Right. That would be the assumption we all have. I don’t think it can be any other way. I mean, you know, like, sure, bobs are being replaced by robots spots and that’s going to reduce injuries at the job place. So I mean, just the simplicity of that. And what do you think that does for us? Like as when it comes to self worth or when it comes to purpose, do you think that gets in the way? No, I think it’s just going to adjust, it’s going to go into the flow.

You got to be in the flow state, though, you know, you can’t be in a chaotic environment. You, you need to remove yourself from polarization, realizing that the polarization is two sides of the two sides of the coin. That’s polarization. When you sit in the middle, you can easily reach your arm out to the right. You reach your arm out to the left and have access to both. But you got to be in the flow state. And as you mentioned earlier, you said, I want to get out of the. The court. The reason why you created your university was to remove the static, to get into the clarity.

You know, like if you remember the analog radios, the dials, it would be. You’re trying to get to your station, it’s all fuzz. You’re not gonna. Who wants to listen to the fuzz, man? You get to the station and bam. Oh, Now I have 92.3. That’s my FM station. And it’s this crystal clear, right? That’s what people want. I think it’s inevitable. But you’ve got to be in that flow state. Do you not feel, though, that for the average person, including maybe some people here, that using AI, especially these chat prompt AIs, is the static. No, because for me, the final product, which is you, me, the microphone you’re talking into, the final product behind it are letters, numbers and symbols, and that’s code.

So everything is made up of code. If the code is in coherence to create the final product, which is what we call a microphone that we’re talking into, well, then there’s no, there’s no dissonance with the microphone. Right. So of course it’s, it’s a, it’s a wide berth of energy that can be become static. But I think that if you find your passion and your purpose, you remove the, the dissonance, you know, And I think that’s what I, I think that’s what AI is doing. It’s removing dissonance for the Age of Aquarius. Because the Age of Aquarius.

AI is not a Piscine invention. It’s a. It’s an Aquarian invention. So you got to start thinking in an Aquarian mind, not in the Piscean mind. People, we still have the overlap because we’re. I. We have so many years of programming of Piscean energy that you need to now move into and transition into the Aquarian kind of train of thought. And a lot of people don’t want to do that. That and what comes with that? You’re going to get dissonance with that. So the final product is what everybody’s after. But as a code breaker, me personally and many others, I’m interested in what’s creating that final product.

Well, it’s the letters, numbers and symbols through mathematics and cymatics, which can be measured in letters, numbers and symbols and vibration, which can be lettered and measured in letters, numbers and symbols. So that’s what I’m after. I’m after like the builder. I want to build, build, but I want to build with coherence. And I know that’s what your university is about, right? I mean it’s building with coherence. Yeah. And like I’m, I’m just trying to wrap my head around like you, you said that the current you use of AI is not static, but do you think that’s only because you yourself know how to use it? Well, of course.

I mean if you, you’re a guitar player. If my guitar is out of tune, does it make noise if I strum the strings, play the chord? Right. Yeah. Right. So I think it’s getting into coherence, getting into tune with the age that you’re in. So the tuning of the guitar is essential, necessary to create harmony. So I mean your university is all about, right? Creating harmony in a static filled world. Yeah, no, I mean a hundred percent that, that’s definitely what I’m, what my vision is. But I’m just, I kind of like want to understand where, where you’re coming from with the whole like, like what, what these things are and, and how we’ve been using them as tools.

Because what I’ve looked into is that most people who use AI right now are, are mostly using it for query Totally. Or image generation. And a lot of the image generation is like refreshed many, several times and has zero use just to test the AI. Like kind of similarly to like why did you get in a waymo? It was just to test it. Right. And then from there whatever it served its purpose. Right. Like it took you from point A to point B. It’s so different to use AI in your case to make a thumbnail than it would be for somebody to just around with it all day and not create anything from it, you know, just to test it.

And I’m wondering like, isn’t that static if a majority of the use of AI is kind of that? I think, I think you hit on something. I think it can be that way. I’m looking at, for me it’s it’s all about you, as you call it, the utility, the purpose. Sure. You know, like, let’s say. Let’s say I’m somebody who. I’m a chef at a restaurant. How am I using AI when I make food that’s Pisces and it’s physical. Right. Well, how would I benefit using AI in a restaurant? Well, it’s. It. There’s a lot of ways that you can do that.

Like, how do I make my recipes better using AI? Same way, how do you make the world better or worse by using AI? You run simulations on it, you plug in parameters on the ingredients, and you ask it, how can it make this taste better? Can it do that? I’m sure there are chefs that are doing that. I mean, at least for the experience in the restaurant, you can make it better. But there are limitations with AI and like, in this case, restaurants, because when you go into a restaurant, it’s. It’s. It’s a. It’s a Piscean feel.

Because it’s physical. Right. Sitting at a table is not AI, but AI is embedded into the menu. Because now it’s not paper menus anymore. They’re more. Well, just scan this barcode to get your menu right. Not every restaurant’s doing that. But is that the inevitability that you’ll sit. Are they going to keep some of the format of the Pisces, where. Because you still sit down at a nice restaurant and they’ll hand you it. At least here in Mexico, they hand you this big menu still. But a lot of the restaurants are moving away from that. They’re moving into the digitization.

So I’ve thought about this a lot. Like, you know, is AI beneficial for every business and format? Yes. But at the same time, AI is useless when it comes to customer service. It’s useless when it comes to actually making the final product, which is like, I ordered this food and that food, like, AI is not going to make that food. Unless, of course, you start to enter rope. You put robots into the restaurant cooking the food. And can the robot make the food better than a chef with that human touch? I don’t know. Right? Not yet.

Not yet. But I mean, is it a postulation? Sure. Oh, yeah. Is it coming? Maybe. I don’t know. So I still think, again, these ages, like the age of Aries is still playing out in the age of. I think we’re still in the transition. Aries, war and desire is still going to play out through every age, astrologically. So even though during the transition of Aries into Pisces was like, you got to throw down your sword because Aries was about domination and I’m gonna kill your family if you don’t like if you come near me. It was protection, it was Aries, it was war, Mars fire.

Well, you bring in Pisces and Pisces brings all these churches in. You know, have you ever read the. The. Have you ever read the story of Mexico and how they got to be. How they got to be when. When this. I think it was the, the Spaniards that came in with these war dogs that came into Mexico and they forced themselves upon and the transition from religion because they were worshiping the. The Madonna already. I can’t remember the name of the book, but it was about the conquest moving and it was about the Piscean age moving into and removing the age of Aries.

And what they did to do that. How do they ushered in and how they make. They transition. They made the Madonna, they made the Virgin Mary something that it already was, but they repackaged it through the age of Pisces. So it’s nothing new, just repackaged. So the age of Aquarius, what is that going to look like with the Virgin Mary? Is it even going to be a thing with religion? I don’t know, but it’s, it’s. Have you. It’s fascinating to look at how these conquests happened and the transition. So the age of Aries was the sword, the age of Pisces was the book, the Bible, the church.

What’s the age of Aquarius going to look like? Right, with A.I. yeah, man, it’s super fascinating. Like some of the that I’ve seen that’s come out is so mind blowing that it’s like how, you know, like where do we go? Because there’s like image generation where you could see the pores in the skin, you know, like sweat. It’s crazy. Yeah, well, I mean if you go deep too, like what does skin look like if you put it under a microscope? It’s not even solid. You just got to go down, down, down. You, you downsizing, you go deeper, deeper, smaller, smaller, smaller, smaller.

And now you get into this completely different world of if it’s just frequency, it’s just the coherence of frequency really. So now you’re having the on. Like a Aquarius is on off, right? It’s black and white. It’s yes or no, it’s digital. You see, Pisces is an analog. Pisces is analog. It’s, it’s. It’s the dial. It’s the. The rheostat in electrical circuits. Well, now we have on off switches. When you go into your house, a lot of people still have. You have Rio stats. You ever see the Rio stats where you turn the dial and it makes the light brighter or dimmer? It’s called real.

That’s. You’ve probably used them before. Yeah, yeah. Well, most people have just on off. You come in the house, you turn the lights on. They. This is one setting, right? Well, the. The analog is being able to control how light or bright you want it to get or how dim you want it to be. That’s like analog. That’s Piscean. Well, that’s fluid. But now Aquarius is on off. Black or white? It’s black. It’s block. You know, it’s yes or no. It’s a inner. It’s literally the defining moment of yin yang. It’s literally the defining moment of polarization.

Polarization, man. I think that’s the perfect place for us to wrap this up, brother. Yeah, I agree, man. We’ve been going almost two hours, so I think that’s, yeah, definitely perfect time to pause and kind of end this one here. So what are your final thoughts? Anything you want to leave with everybody on whatever it is that you want to leave? No, man, I mean, I think, like, we’ve covered so much two hours. Like, I think all I would say is for everyone right now that’s getting worried about what’s happening with this World War III thing, you know, like, this is probably the perfect time to just shift gears, get focused, commit to something, you know? Commit to something.

You know, speaking of the university, I’m actually reopening up enrollment for the month of July in a couple days. So I will be doing that, opening it up for probably like a week or so. So I’m really looking forward to having a new cohort and have some new members join us. Beautiful. I’m gonna be. I’m gonna be focused on doing some new lectures. Already have a couple lecture ideas that I’ve been cooking up in the background. So, yeah, I’m excited. And don’t be lazy this summer, guys. You know, I know we have a lot of sunlight right now and it’s a lot of longer, warmer days, but I think we’re gonna have a weird fall time.

Oh, yeah, I think there’s gonna be some. Plenty, plenty of weird stuff going on. So that’s probably the next chat that we could have is like maybe a dialed in conversation about what we see Coming for the end of this Year of the Snake, and just some thoughts about wherever you’re at with your process and your system and, and wherever I’m at, because I know a lot will occur around September, October. So I’ll leave, I’ll leave it there and we could reconnect and maybe have a, have a chat about that next. Well, it’s awesome because we’re going to move, you know, it’s going to be.

Let’s talk 21, and 21 is the world card in the Tarot. So it’ll, it’ll segue into something really beautiful. You know, I, I really do, but I’m on the same page as you, I think, and I’ve been talking about what’s to come in. It’s September, October, I think, you know, with the astrological lineups, it’s pretty, pretty gnarly in Virgo, which is the Year of the Snake. But next year, you know, the year the Horseman. The card that represents next year is the Jack of Spades, the Knight of Swords, which is revolution, man. It’s, it’s, It’s a number one year.

We’re moving into next year. So I think 2026 could become pretty, pretty, pretty awesome for the most part, if you’re willing. Man. We got, we got two, we got two chat ideas ahead. We got Rosh Hashanah. Oh, yeah, that’ll be good for, for 21 with the tie back to Saturn. Yep. We have that eclipse coming up on September 7th. That’s gonna be like. That’s one that I’ve been focused on all year. And then. Yeah. Got the, got the Chinese New Year. Yep. The Horse. Well, I mean, the Rosh Hashanah is big because their card for the.

Is it 5, 5, 7, 8, 6. This one upcoming five year 5786. That card is the Ace of Clubs, which is the, the, the, the Abracadabra card in the Tarot. It’s the, it’s the 23rd card in the deck. So on the Jewish calendar, they’re. Right now they’re in the King of Hearts, but they’re moving to move into the Ace of Clubs, which is abracadabra. And then the United States and the Gregorian and all that stuff moves into the, the, the Knight of Swords in 2026. So it’s going to be very, very different than this year. This year there’s a lot of endings and completions and climaxes.

This is the year orgasm right here. Snake eats its tail. This year. Orobors. Yep. This is The. Or the orgasm. Yeah. Virgo energy. Yeah, for sure. So. That’s right. All right, all right, all right, brother. It’s been an awesome, man. So much good stuff. This was a real fun one. Yeah, man. I appreciate you. I can’t believe it’s been 20 podcasts. Yeah, man. 20. 20. Unbelievable. 20 over the past four. Four years. It’s probably. Has it been that long for. Yeah, it’s been. It’s been. Yeah. I mean, I don’t remember when I first. First. You have to find when we first did a podcast to be interesting to see, but.

Yeah, man. I mean, I’ve had my channel now for. It started March20. 2021, so it’s been over four years now. You started yours in March of 2021? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yep. That’s cool. Yep. Did you plant. Did you plan that? Like, when you. No, no, no. It happened because. Because the lockdown and everything. Oh, okay. It was just super. It was super random. Like, I was already kind of. Yeah, I forgot what my first video was. But, like, we’ve been celebrating, like, the channel’s anniversary, usually in April, technically, because I launched my Mastermind community in April.

I was working on. In September, maybe even earlier. Maybe like July. August. I was already working on. I’m looking at your channel. It says you. You’re what, this one? Anyway, July 21st is when you actually. Oh, yeah, no, I mean, I probably created this channel with that email address, like, a real long time ago. Like, I don’t remember, but, like, when I actually released my first video, I think it was like, March 2, 2021. Okay, so it was like a year after the lockdown started, pretty much. Like, I. Yeah, so, no, I didn’t plan anything. There was zero planning.

I just. I went with it, you know? Like, why not? You’re so diet. It’s so. Oh, my God, it’s so fat. Right? Right now you have 116, 000 subscribers. And that’s the golden ratio. 100. Yeah. Your birthday is March 16th, Solarly. That’s 116. You joined on by 21st. That’s the seven of clubs. Join with your seven of diamonds. That’s 77. And 77 is huge. Combining the two cards, it adds up to 53. And 53 is tied to iodine, which is one half of the I am. This is how dialed in you are. Dude, it’s. It’s so mind blowing, man.

It’s so freaking mind blowing, and I’m so happy to be a part of your community. I really, really am. And that means be your friend, man. I. I’m grateful to be your friend. So. Pretty awesome, man, that. That means the world to me, brother. Totally. Really appreciate you, man. Yeah, same here, man. So we’ll leave it here. Ladies and gentlemen, thanks for joining Jordan and I from Waters Above. My name is Logan. Let’s talk number 20 in the books. Until next time, ladies and gentlemen. We will see you later.
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