➡ James Collier, a bestselling author, discusses his 25-year investigation into election rigging in the United States. He and his brother initially stumbled upon this issue while researching for a book about running for Congress. Their findings led them to believe that vote rigging is widespread across the country, despite public disbelief. Collier encourages people to look into the issue themselves, citing various sources that support his claims.
➡ A new voting system was introduced, where numbers were printed on paper instead of being checked visually. However, the system failed during its first use, causing many workers to quit. Allegations of election rigging and corruption within the Justice Department were raised, but no legal action was taken. The story highlights the importance of transparency and integrity in the voting process.
➡ The text discusses allegations of election rigging and manipulation in the United States, with media companies and private entities supposedly controlling the vote count. It suggests that this manipulation has been happening since 1964, with both major political parties involved. The text also encourages people to investigate these claims themselves, using video cameras to document potential discrepancies in their local voting precincts. It ends by recommending a book that further explores these allegations.
➡ The text discusses various instances of alleged election fraud in the United States. It mentions suspicious activities during voting in New Hampshire and Arizona, and recounts a story of a rigged election in New Orleans. The text also criticizes the media for not covering these issues and encourages citizens to be vigilant during elections, suggesting they videotape the process to ensure transparency.
➡ The speaker discusses the potential for election manipulation through computerized voting systems and emphasizes the importance of maintaining a paper trail for accountability. They encourage listeners to be proactive in understanding and questioning how elections are run, including the use of private companies in the process. The speaker also promotes their book and video, which provide further information on the topic, and shares their ongoing efforts to educate people about election integrity.
➡ The text discusses an investigation into election rigging, involving various parties including the League of Women Voters, the press, and the CIA. The narrator recounts their experiences of being escorted out of a BMX room, finding evidence of vote tampering, and facing resistance from the press and authorities. They also discuss the use of computer ballots and the potential for tampering with these systems. The text ends with a call for transparency and verification in the voting process.
➡ A woman named Susan Brennicker, who ran for council in Jefferson Parish, New Orleans, discovered potential vote rigging when she tested voting machines and found they were pre-programmed to favor her opponent. Despite presenting video evidence to TV stations, her case was dismissed in court. The author suggests that this is part of a larger issue of corruption and manipulation in American politics, with powerful groups controlling the media, the economy, and even the voting process. The author advocates for a return to paper ballots, overseen by invested citizens, to ensure fair elections.
➡ Big corporations and influential individuals are using technology and media control to eliminate middle-class jobs and manipulate the economy for their own benefit. They’re also exploiting legal loopholes to steal inheritances and control elections. The public is largely unaware due to media censorship and lack of transparency in these processes. It’s crucial for people to investigate and challenge these practices to protect their rights and interests.
➡ The text discusses concerns about the integrity of computerized voting systems. It suggests that these systems can be manipulated remotely, potentially skewing election results. The text also questions the accuracy of exit polls and suggests that they may be manipulated as well. It ends by encouraging citizens to take action to ensure the integrity of their votes, such as using video cameras to document voting processes.
➡ The speaker discusses their journey from journalism to the music industry and back to journalism. They also talk about their brother’s political campaign in the 70s, during which they noticed potential voting fraud. They tried to expose this by gathering evidence and reporting it to the FBI. The speaker suggests that the current voting system is susceptible to manipulation and advocates for a return to paper ballots.
➡ A pilot project in Dade County, Florida, revealed potential election rigging through the use of modified voting machines. The machines were altered to prevent precinct workers from accessing them, instead using a paper imprint system that often malfunctioned. This led to widespread dissatisfaction among precinct workers, with 4000 of them walking off the job. Despite evidence of the rigging, local media and authorities refused to investigate, highlighting the power of media corporations in controlling information and potentially influencing election outcomes.
➡ James Collier discovered that election ballots were being tampered with by the League of Women Voters, who were punching holes in the vote cards. Despite threats of arrest, he and his team used a video camera to document this illegal activity. He encourages others to be vigilant about their ballots, as they can be manipulated before reaching the counting stage. This manipulation is often overlooked, leading to a skewed election outcome.
➡ In the 1982 elections, there were irregularities with the vote counting machines, with eight out of nine not working properly and one being used to recount votes, which is illegal. The League of Women Voters, a national organization, is accused of being involved in vote fraud and receiving large sums of money from corporations and TV networks. The media, including TV networks and newspapers, are also implicated in this scandal, with claims they manipulate poll results and control the narrative around elections. This manipulation allegedly started in 1964, following the assassination of Kennedy, and continues to this day.

The author of a bestselling book, James Collier. Welcome to the show. I had the pleasure to be here tonight in the snow. Thanks for coming. And, James, what prompted you to write this book? Well, the book vote the stealing of America, it’s been a 25 year investigation into how elections are rigged in the United States. Now, I know, I know there’s a lot of people out there that are going to take umbrage of that. Elections rigged because it’s our birthright. The birthright of this country is the vote. Absolutely. And as a matter of fact, the biggest export of the United States is the vote.

We won the cold war over what? The vote. Haiti, the vote. Everywhere the vote. Back in 1970, my brother and I were living in Miami, and we were friends with all the liberals of the time, the Tom Hayden’s and the people like that. And they were pretty much creating chaos in this country for people who understand that era of Nixon, the Vietnam War. And they were saying, you can’t run through the system. And so Ken, who was really a terrific historian and a big guy, handsome guy. Ken’s your brother. Ken’s my brother. Right. He’s not here tonight, but he’s my brother.

And he said, let’s go to New York. And I got an idea for a book called running through the system. Ballots, not bullets, because they’re saying the system doesn’t work. So we got in our little car and we drove all the way to New York, and we went to see Dell Publishing, cold right off the streets. And Geraldo Rivera, even one of the very first interviews that Geraldo Rivera ever had as a kid was me in Grand Central Station talking about the book, because in one page, Ken wrote this brilliant one page prospectus on the book, and Dell bought it, gave us a really good advanced.

And so we went back to Miami and we did it. Ken ran for Congress against Claude Pepper, who was the father of Social Security, 70 years old, and people hardly ever ran against him. He’d raised $3 million to run unopposed. And this is with your contract. You had a. With the contract. So running through the system, ballots, not bullets, was the book, because. And what we did was we said we weren’t going to spend a nickel on the campaign, what the poorest guy in this country could spend. And that’s what they’ll like, that. No advertising nowhere, you know, and we walked the streets and shook hands, went to houses, went to, spoke at every church breakfast, and did what you’re supposed to do.

And so on election night, September 7, 1970, or September 3, 1970, at three minutes after the polls closed, the CB’s affiliate down there called perfect vote percentages for 250 candidates. Well, you can’t do anything in three minutes. And all of the citizens of Dade county, totally asleep, don’t care. No one thought about it, you know, but we were doing a book which we thought was going to end right there. And so when the NBC affiliate down there 20 minutes later, not only called the exact same percentages, but added the exact digital vote total that every candidate, including us, was going to get by the end of the night, the investigation went on the next day.

So we went to the television station and we got the on air readouts that you saw on the air. You really stumbled into this. You weren’t looking to find out what’s wrong with the system. You know, is it honest, is it real? You know, you just sort of stumbled on this, stumbled on it in pursuit of a good reporter doing a street story of what it’s like to run electioned. And we thought it would be over that night and probably would have made a good magazine article. But 25 years later, I’m sitting here talking to you people out there, because what we found was the pilot project for the United States, and it’s going on right now across America.

So everything I’m telling you about Miami, we found in other cities, and other people found in other cities, and they’re finding a, and it took 22 years to write the book. Pretty incredible statement, Mister Collier. I mean, a lot of people believe that, you know, it might happen in one little part of the country or in banana republics, but not, not in the United States. Well, I want to tell you something. I’ll get to that later about the computer vote in this country, but we’ll get to that. But I mean, Americans take pride in having, you know, to vote.

Freedom. That’s our right, and that’s what runs this country. And people out there right now are like, say this guy can’t be true. It can’t be true. But if you go to a June 1995 article of Reader’s Digest, anybody can go to the library and get it. Trevor Armbrister wrote a great report for Reader’s Digest saying how many cities and how votes are rigged in all these major cities. Not a newspaper picked up that story. Nothing. Ronnie Duggar, a lot of people know one of the top ten investigators in this country has written stories about it for the New York Times, in the op ed pages, how the computer rigs elections in this country.

The front pages of the New York Times won’t pick up a single word on it. So, anyway, back in Dade county at that time, the pilot project we stumbled onto in rummaging through the system, we found out they said that the League of Women Voters, Washington, the people out in the precinct phoning back vote totals. And now that’s going on again today. That was part of the project. And we went to the league, and the head of the league, Joyce Diefender, for the late Joyce, she’s dead now, said, no, we didn’t. There was nobody out in any precinct anywhere in this county calling anything back, and I don’t want to get caught in this thing.

And she started to cry in her living room in Coral Gables with a witness. So we started an FBI report at that point, and in the local newspapers, other than the Miami Herald or the news, who wouldn’t touch it, we printed stories about how she said that. And then we went to the computer programmer and said, what’s the program that you could use to count it? Because on the readout, it said one voting machine was the criteria that they predicted these votes from. Meaning as soon as someone got the vote, 250 candidates off of one machine, they ran to a phone, called it back to this guy, and they took it on cards.

Well, you can’t do that in 20 minutes anyway. Well, you can’t even call 250 votes off the back of these lever style machines, which you have here. It’s physically. And then go repeat them. That’s 500 numbers right there in 20 minutes. They couldn’t do it. And the computer programmer, Elton Davis, said, you’ll never prove it. Now get out. So we went to the FBI again and said, didn’t you go to the. Just the attorney general at the time? No, no, no. Next. Coming next. Oh, you read the book. So that was the reports getting bigger, and people can get whatever we said under FOIA, under my name, James Collier, you can get that freedom, freedom of information and get all of these reports there.

And the FBI. That was FBI. So we. Now we proved that nobody called back to the station. They couldn’t do it in three minutes or 20 minutes. And the programmer who supposedly wrote this brilliant computer program, to do it based on one machine, and any mathematician out there knows that’s an a times b equals c formula, which is a, the vote in the machine, times b, the computer programmer’s program equals c, the vote. And you need to know two out of three and any a times b. And that means you have to rig it, because if you know two, you did it.

So anyway, then in through the years, the first four years of the seventies, we went about proving how they did it, because one thing was to find out, and the other thing was to prove it to the satisfaction of both the FBI and the organized crime Bureau in Dade county. And by 1973, we were after the stand up lever machines where you open the back of the machine and you read the numbers up. You had Connecticut. Absolutely. And so they shipped all those machines out of town to Marion, South Carolina, or North Carolina, I forgot which that is.

And they retrofitted them so that the counters now had raised wheels, raised counters instead of flat, it stuck through so that your three digit number was raised like an ink pad. And they put a piece of paper in there called the print o Matic. And that’s what you have here now. So this was the pilot project in 1973 in Dade county to test this little system up. And what they said was, is we’re going to take the keys away from all the precinct captains so you can no longer open the back of the machine and look at the numbers with your eyes to certify the zeros in the morning and at night certify the numbers on it instead.

You’re going to crank a handle and there’s going to be a roller that goes across this piece of paper, and then you’re going to crank it and a piece of paper is going to come out and it’s going to have the zeros on it in the morning. And then at night you crank it again and you’re going to have the numbers for the final election. So instead of eyeballing it now, you got to trust this magic little piece of paper in the gumball machine. So the first time they used it, it jammed. And about 600 precincts, 4000 precinct workers walked off the job that day because when they opened the backs, because it jammed, they sent troubleshooters there.

The roller hadn’t gone all the way across. It wrinkled up the paper. But when they opened it up, there were numbers, zeros in the morning and the final numbers at night were already in the machine. And that’s why 4000 people quit right there on the spot. And the Miami Herald wrote a story saying there was a big snafu, but they put firemen and policemen on to take their place, but never said why. And so there were the two pilot projects that are now controlling this country. Because election rigging is big business. It’s a billion dollar business.

They don’t leave the running of this country up to the people. It would be much too dangerous for the developers, for the judges for the sheriffs. You’ve got to control, you have to control every aspect, right? Controlling who’s in power, who’s in power. And so we went to an attorney. We brought him all this stuff. And he was one of the biggest attorneys in Florida, Ellis Rubins, his name. He was the Watergate burglars attorney. And the FAA guys, power guys, seasoned, seasoned. And the press followed him. So he looked at it, and the circuit court appointed him.

We didn’t pay him or anything. He said, you take all of Collier’s stuff and if it’s worth anything, you bring it to us. And he did. So he took it to the state attorney’s office, and he goes in and he waives immunity, which means he can be prosecuted. They forced him to do that, trying to intimidate him. If he’s lying, he’s dying. So we figured we had the Pulitzer there because our champion was going to come out and win this thing. And he comes out and he looks at the camera and he says, janet Reno has told me to tell you that the statute of limitations has run out on the crime, and she refuses to prosecute.

And with that, he ran out of the building. Now, she was the assistant, he was the assistant state attorney, state attorney at the time. And she admitted there was a crime. She lied that there was a statute, and she said she wouldn’t prosecute. And that was the first time she instructed justice. And it’s following her to this day. And, but your attorney, Alice Rubin, really knew that you had a case. Oh, he did. But whatever you. And he went, you know, putting name on the line. Yeah, up to that point. And then something frightened him. Whatever it was, to this day, he’s not told us, and we don’t have it.

In the book. We tell the story, of course, and in the book it’s like he’s driving off and you’re like running after the car or something. Hold on to me. What did he say to you? Alice was like, stared straight ahead. I don’t want it because of this. Janet Reno traumatized this Mandev. So that was the beginning of the story, and it would have been the end because the next years we had to survive and we didn’t know where we were going with this. What about the FBI? You said that you had contacted all this. Right.

But the FBI is the investigative branch of the Justice Department. They cannot initiate lawsuits. So in 1972, we went to the Justice Department. This was prior to this two years in the investigation. And we saw a guy named Craig C. Don Santa, who’s still there to this day. He was a young man then. He’s growing old in the job. And his job is to make sure that vote fraud prosecution on a federal level is never going to take place. He’s the stopper in the bottle. And so we went to Craig and he saw all of this stuff, and of course, nothing happened.

And that’s when we first learned how corrupt the Justice Department is. And that’s how Janet Reno is there today protecting Craig. One of the biggest reasons. And we testified at Janet Reno’s confirmation hearing. Oh, we tried to. They wouldn’t let us. We testified at Antonin Scalia’s. We’ll tell you that at the end when they lapse on that one. We even sued Scalia. But that’s ahead of the story. Anyway, in 1982, the Republican National Committee put out a reward offer saying, we know there is election rigging in the United States. And they put that out through all the newspapers in the United States, state’s army newspaper everywhere, saying, we will pay $5,000 for every arrest and conviction you can get of a person tampering with the vote, though we were told that the League of Women Voters one more time in Dade county was up in this secret counting office out in the Everglades in a bunker like three story building.

And this was in 1980? 219 82. Right. Nothing happened between there. 74 and 82. It was pretty dormant, except that we got the FOIA files in there and saw that our stuff was all in there. But in 82, this is the tape that we, this is the tape you’re all about to see, which quite faded tape, as a matter of fact. Pat Robertson paid $2,500 just to show this once on his 700 club back in 1987. But anyway, we were told that the league was up in this counting chamber in the dark of night in the Everglades there, and nobody could ever get in.

You couldn’t get past the guards, the dogs, the tv cameras, the metro cops, the sheriffs and everybody there. And you had to have id to get in. Well, that’s illegal. Everybody in this country should be able to see how their vote is counted at every step of the way. And that’s really what I’m here tonight. All right. I think they’ve got. Can we. Oh, here we are. Tune up the sound on that. Looking at a monitor. Yeah. Now can you read it? Right. We’re looking at, can they put up sound so we can hear what’s going on in that monitor? What we’re doing is we’re getting in the building.

And there’s the guards there saying that you can’t get in. And right here is a sign that says, you got to have id to get in. We got in. You’re following the vote, right? We’re following the vote. Cards of the battle. What we were told we would be arrested if we tried to get in this building. We got in, and we’re going upstairs. And that guard was calling the security officer, the chief officer, and he’s on our tail right now. And this is what no one ever gets to see, how the vote is coming into this room.

And the people to the right there are the league of women voters sitting there. And the reason we wanted to get in is we were told that they were punching thousands of holes in the vote card with pencils issued by the election supervisor. And this woman can ask. Women’s orders. Ladies, beer working tonight. She points to her right to deflect us. They’re really to our left. The punching of the hole we’ll get to right. You’ll see. Now, this is the room where the votes are supposed to be counted, but they’re having a big party, and the mayor’s there and all the judges and everybody, all the dignitaries, and you’re about to pass the BMX machines, which is the ballot multiplexers, they’re called the IBM cards that you voted.

Go into these machines, and you can see that machine’s empty. And that one’s empty. And that one, and that one. And we get to this guy here, and he’s. This deck has been counted all night. Now watch. He’s going to take a card, he takes it out and he recounts it. There’s a federal offense right there that he did, and the FBI stop actioned it like that. And he said that card was a phony mallet. The FBI. Oh, and they just knew that it was a phony. Yeah, they could see the holes were running the wrong direction in the car.

What happens then? What is your name, sir? Where are you from? Alone. Joe Malone. Yes, I’m from the whole news. Joe. How are you? Okay, fine. Good to see you. You’re gonna be running the BMX cars through the master computer later on? No, who’s gonna be doing that? That’s just the way it works. Maybe you could show us. We’d certainly like to see. This is not the time, not during processing. We have ample opportunity before. We would like to follow one of the BMX tickets down into the process. You to get over on the side, surely.

Are you the computer chief of this election. Who is? Please get over here. You say you’re not. Are you denying what you are, or are you. Are you the computer chief? What is your name? My name is edition here. Yours is. What is your position here? Hold over here. What’s me, sir? What is your name, sir? I’m officer. Staff Jefferson out of the BMX room. What is your name, sir? David Leahy, chief of the election division. Right. I’m not under arrest, am I, sir? I’m just exploring you to the door. All right, let me take a photo of who’s escorting.

Are you ladies from the League of Women Voters? Have you been paid to be here tonight? Not to pay, or is your organization being paid? Why are you coming down that list? Lady punching out home. I got it. I’ve got it. Why are you punching holes in that card, man? Look out her dress. You can see how many cards she’s punched. And she said it didn’t go through all the way. Who are you? Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Don’t put your left hand over my camera. Who are you? Get him out. All right, I’m willing to leave.

Do you want me arrested or to fight? Do you want me removed from the building? Do you want me to stop aiming the camera? I’m going. I got you. What’s your name? What’s your badge number? Let’s go. Well, you don’t need to push. I’m out of key areas. No problem. I’m not violent. That’s good. Just looking to find the truth. Yeah. We later went to Cincinnati and found the league using tweezers to do the same thing there. They tried to stop us there. Judge Niehaus in Cincinnati. And Ken ran the camera with a light off, and he got the league.

And then we took it to channel nine in Cincinnati. And they ran it. And we went to wCKY radio there. The Jan Michelson show. He’s now in who? In Des Moines. And we went on the next day on his show at 09:00 in the morning, although Jan had never met us. But we told him real quick, and he said, come on, and we’ll challenge the election supervisor and the state attorney in Hamilton county. And the election supervisor, Alvirah Radford, who had been there for 20 years, resigned the next day. And the Cincinnati Inquirer didn’t write a word except to say we were troublemakers.

And so that is basically what goes on in this country. What’s going on everywhere. Why didn’t you get any support from the press? Because we found out that the press is the rigor. And I know that some people are going, oh, my God. But you’ve got, if you play with this long enough, you begin to see who the power sources are. Kathryn Graham now is the owner of the Washington Post. Right. But she’s backed off. Now her son also owned, was it post Newsweek in Miami when you were panel ten? Yeah, right. That night, that night, the first night, that pilot project when the tv stations were helping in the rigging of the elections because they were projecting these.

Channel Ten didn’t go on yet. Kathryn Graham kept her stationed for that year in 1972 from even covering the election. She ran a movie, ABC News that night ran a movie that was her affiliate because she knew what was going on and wanted to say we didn’t be part of it, but tacitly admitted it. And that got us involved with Richard Nixon and the Watergate break in, stories you wouldn’t believe are in the book, never told stories before. Really exciting. When you turn this over to the FBI, in your book, you mention a part where there’s about 37 pages missing that the CIA confiscated.

Did you ever find out what happened? Why did the CIA get involved? And this is certainly serious because the CIA just doesn’t jump in an FBI thing for nothing. That’s very true. And the CIA did because we went to Don Santo with a reporter from Washington, the Washington Times, a Pulitzer Prize winner named Gene Galtz, and we got up to see Don Santo in 1984. Now he was the, he’s the guy we went to in 72 who, he’s the stopper in the bottle at the Justice Department that Janet Reno is presently protecting. So that vote rigging across the country never sees the light of day of prosecution on a federal level.

And that video is what the national Republican Party, that right, had to offer. So anyway, we went to Washington with a video, I’m sorry. And we sued the Republican National Committee because it said in their reward offer they would take us to the Justice Department. And they didn’t. They refused. We sued the Justice Department. Don Santo and Williams, Brent Smith. We sued ABC News because Tim O’Brien, their chief Supreme Court correspondent, you see on Monday nights, saw the video and evidence and said, hey, this has got to go on the air, and interviewed the RNC. And then he was told he couldn’t put it on the air from the time we sued the League of Women Voters for lobbying the mall to keep it off.

So basically that happened. And then one of the strangest things in the book, we print a transcript that showed that the heads of we said, wouldn’t it be great if we could prove, because we did it in Miami, that all the conspirators meet in one room? I mean, to be an investigative reporter and prove that all the conspirators meet in one room is really, you know, you’re getting all four aces. Royal flush. No. We got a transcript from what’s called CSI’s, the Center for Strategic and International Studies, which is the big media they quote from. They use that as the pool that they get everybody from when they have a news, they need a news op thing.

And they say, quoting this great official. And what we showed was in the transcript, which we print in the book, the heads of the Republican National Committee and the head of the Democratic National Committee, Kathryn Graham, the heads of all three television network news. Roon Arledge and the other heads, Leonard Grossman, the head of ABC, CB’s, NBC. Right. Kirkland, Richard Nixon, Melvin Laird. They all met in the same room and decided how America is to be run. And one of the things they say in there is the press is not here today. We can speak freely, and they are the press, but they don’t look at themselves as press.

That’s where I was, where I lost track. Why the press? The press owns America. And in 1964, they formed a network pool nobody knows about, or very few called news election services right after Kennedy, right after Kennedy was assassinated. And they said, from now on, we don’t compete with each other because we will pool all the information and we’ll have a big board and you will all get the numbers. So when you see Brokaw, rather and Jennings get on at 07:01 after the New Hampshire primary, say we’re the first for the most, they should say, look, there’s a board at 225 West 34th street in New York City.

And there’s a bank of people on the 13th floor of the World Trade center. And that’s a scam that we’re pulling. And we’re getting all the numbers off the same board. And they’re being fed to us by the league of Women Voters nationwide, who we’re paying, and a Associated Press, which is part of the pool, and CNN and those people. And so we could just have a probe to head up there giving you the numbers. And anybody can go to that address and prove that that is in Florida. Are they still using that type of ballot? They’re using the computer ballot and David Leahy is still there should be.

That was the computer ballot down there. Right. Okay. And here they’re using print O MatiC well, we have the print o Matic, the lever. But I was speaking to the secretary of state’s office the other day and his assistant was telling me that the secretary of state is advocating going to a computer ballot, all right? And he says there’s quite a few out there and it does leave a paper trail. There’s one. But if, if this is gets punched in like that, they can tamper with the ballot. What they do is they want Sequoia Pacific, which is Jamestown, New York.

That’s who own the print o matic that you have now. There was a woman when the book came out from Waterloo, Iowa. She had a public access tv show just like this, and it was on the school board and she read it. And they had the print o matic there in Waterloo to Iowa. And I said, hey, look, go to them and say you want to look in the back of the machine? You don’t want them to just crank it. Hell, you want to open the machine and verify there are zeros on everything and nothing on the piece of paper.

Before the election. Before the election. And they said, when hell freezes over, lady. And the Waterloo courier vilified her like you wouldn’t believe and told people not to read the vote scam book vilified me. And. And so that what’s happened since the book came out is basically, is people across this country have been saying, you know, we know it’s true what you’re saying, and we found it before we found your book. And now, you know, we have the book here. We can go to people who doubt this is going on, but like a lady called me the other day, Susan Brennicker.

She ran for the council in Jefferson Parish, New Orleans, which is east of the Mississippi, because the other part of New Orleans is west of the Mississippi. And her opponent who ran against her, his nephew was the election supervisor. And she was really, you should get her on the show someday. She is like the girl next door, and she is so funny and hip that everybody loved her in town. I just talked to her once and I realized what kind of, you know, like Doris Day with an attitude of it. She’s really cool. The election supervisor.

I forgot what she told me, either the night before or the night after the election. Put a bullet in his head, the kid. And she lost to the uncle. And so she took a video camera and she went to the warehouse where the computer was stored and she videotaped. And I can’t wait to find out more about how she got in and how she had the chutzpah to do all this. And she punched her own vote and it voted for her and she did it again and voted for her. She did it again and again, four times and it voted for the fifth, 6th, 7th, 8th, voted for her opponent.

And she went to other machines and they all did the same, pre programmed the computer that you vote on and you push a button. She went to the tv stations with it and they ran the video. This was just like last election. It is true, though, there’s quite a number of companies making those. It is a handful, not too many. Are there any safeguards to zero? You can put, we quote experts like Howard Strauss of Princeton University. Does election watch. Believe me, vote rigging in this country has been written about a lot of other investigative reporters.

It’s just that you never see it in the mass media except Reader’s Digest with Trevor Armbrister’s story last June. What do you feel is the best, safest, where we can? Paperback. I was going to hold that to the end because everyone, I’ll tell you now, because we’ll get to the end anyway. All the major democracies of the world use paper ballots. Israel, India, 270 million voters. Great Britain. Nobody is as dumb and gullible and asleep as the United States citizens. I mean, I’ll bet you that a lot of people turned this off tonight. They didn’t want to know from this.

They didn’t want to know what they’re hearing here tonight and even their hearings, that can’t possibly be shocking. You go to your election supervisors in the state of Connecticut tomorrow and say, I want to look in the back of those machines. I want you to show me how the print o matic works. I want to be able to open that machine, if you’re right, absolute right under the constitution, to know every bit of it, how your vote is counted. We should not have a secret count, only a secret ballot. In Oregon, they are voting by mail.

Now that is the sickest thing I’ve ever heard. And it’s not only, it’s not a secret ballot anymore. They get to know the names and they’re selling the names of the people. And you can go intimidate somebody. And of course, those ballots, nobody watches who counts them, even knows who’s counting them. They can put out any numbers they want and they want to go to voting by phone. That’s key, though, is the counting. It’s got to be done in the precincts. Paper ballots eyed by human beings who care. This country would be so changed if real people got into power, not people that play ball.

It’d be a government of the people, because this country is manageable. It’s just a corporation. That’s all we are. We’re all running around. Every city you go into New York City is by going to a giant flea market with people living above it. So you’re going in and there’s people quite capable of running the economics of the corporation, but the politicians in there now are ripping us off on every single level. There are people on every level. Just the germ warfare that you’re about to hear about that’s coming. They’re going to tell you that people are flying in from Africa, bringing you diseases.

You heard it here first. They’re nothing. The things getting out of the laboratory. And there’s many top investigators who are writing books on it. I mean, what’s the one, the big one now? It’s a bestseller. I forgot to name it. People know what it is. It’s really, people have to pay attention. It’s the savings and loan scandals. Nobody got prosecuted. The bushes made billions, and they’re running for office everywhere. Governor of Texas, and nobody prosecutes. They rig elections in order to put judges in. When this lady, Susan Brennicker in New Orleans went to court, the newspaper wouldn’t print a word.

The newspaper wouldn’t print a word of what the television showed she found. That ought to tell you something. And you brought this to the court system, though, as well. Yeah. And so did Susan Brennicker in New Orleans. That’s the story I was just telling you about, the woman who videotaped that it. So anyway, she went to court, she sued, and the judge wouldn’t allow her to have expert witnesses on, and he threw the case out immediately. And that happens across the country. And Trevor Armbrister wrote about that in Reader’s Digest, too. So it isn’t just there.

It’s everywhere. And people call me every day. This year I’m going to be really busy because people will call me after the next election and say, hey, it was rigged here. Where did I get a good, I got one from Lindsey Bordens town. That was Massachusetts Ball river. And it seems like in Fall river they’re all Portuguese, and the whole city council was Portuguese, and they weren’t going to pass a bond issue up there. This was the last election, $150 million out of the taxpayer’s pocket. Nobody wanted it. All the polls showed they didn’t. The only people wanted it was the two brothers who owned the only talk radio show in town and the newspaper, well, all five lost.

All five incumbents lost. And the bond issue passed. And they figured out before the people are done paying, $1 billion will come out of their pockets. And there’s nothing anyone can basically do about it unless we can network this thing, unless the people of this country realize what it is. I’m telling them it’s big business. It’s billion dollar business running every venue from the smallest city. Well, okay, not small cities, because there’s nothing there to steal. But if you can deal, if you can get zoning variances for the big time developer in town, like in Florida, encroach on the everglades, wherever you need variances.

If you need the judges in, you need the sheriffs in, you need all the constitutional offices in, you need the state attorneys in the tax collector, people like that. You have to control these offices. Like in the state of Florida. All the constitutional officers are Democrats, and yet the state is going Republican. They control that completely because the Democrat machine still controls that. And I suspect if I investigated this state, we’d find out all that here, too. So the major media controls the country. The bankers have their control over the major media because everybody, their paper, their mortgages, their interest loans on the television stations, etcetera, all of that.

So that you have, basically, we’re all fodder. The doctors, the lawyers, the clerks, the taxi drivers, us guys here tonight are just fodder in a game of people who are arrogant, nasty, mean people and greedy. Greedy. And they have a big agenda. And right now, Clinton is one of the guys who jamming through that agenda, especially world trade, NAFTA, GATT taking away the sovereignty of the United States because world trade says that no longer will our intellectual property rights here mean anything, our patent rights are all be controlled by a foreign group of people. And we’ll have one vote on all this and they can literally rape us.

And they’re going step by slow step, everything. They’re inching along because these plans were put into place years and years ago. And the think tanks and people who say it’s just a conspiracy theory. Let me deal with that for a minute. If the three of us were in a room, two of us would conspire against the third. It happens. It’s the american way. Conspiracy theory is not theory. People conspire, and we print transcripts in the book about the conspiracy. Well, this isn’t a theory. You have fact, but people get together. So the think tanks that are out there, the big ones in Washington and the major think tanks of the bankers and the media people get together and they figured it out that they really don’t need people and they don’t need to middle class.

Just that the stock market is going up right now. Why not? Because the companies that are selling goods and services are doing so well. They’re not doing any different than they did a year ago. They’re whacking off hundreds, millions, hundreds of millions of dollars on salaries of people. And so everything’s computer driven, so that the computers say, oh, look at the profit we got here, man. And so it goes up and all the boobies out there buy it. And all the people say, hey, look at that. They don’t check because their portfolios are going up, but what they’re doing is they’re just taking middle class jobs, management jobs, people living in half a million dollar houses.

I’ve interviewed a lot of them for the next book, and those jobs are disappearing across this country. You just hear of at and t. But like in, I interviewed someone from Maricopa County, Phoenix. I think it’s Motorola. Is there, just laid off 1000 beneficial finance in New Jersey, just laid off 80 in one section. 100. You’re nothing hearing. Once downsizing started, I don’t know who did it first, but when it started, the corporate executives started saying, oh, look at that, that guy’s getting the golden parachute. And he made three $4 million by getting rid of all those middle jobs, took all their salaries, made it look like a big profit.

But they’re making the profit on the salary, not on the good in service. And it’s a one time phony issue, but they keep doing it. And then every company that goes along say, well, we’ll just downsize. And the executives who are growing old are taking a big chunk of everybody’s salary and voting it into their pocket so they can get out and let the next guy worry about it. But there’s nobody in the middle. The middle is going. And they’re going to try to use computers to run their jobs so that they don’t bring them back, so they don’t get computer fraud.

Exactly. So they’re running, they’re getting rid of the middle class. They’re controlling the vote. And judges, sheriffs, probate, that’s a big scam across the country. People die. Certain judges will get the probate and the referee and the judge make a fortune, and the widow and the children get nothing. Just rip them off. You can’t go to the press on it because the press won’t print that story. But that’s. The Sunbelt is rife with that. California, Florida, just stealing people’s inheritances. And you can’t go to the press, and the press is the fourth. The press was considered by the people who set up this country as the only safeguard left against a government that will.

The founding fathers said, do this to you? And the press realized that, yeah. When you say conspiracy, wouldn’t someone talk? People in Miami, the 4000 who walked off the job got together, and I write about it in the book and had meetings and went to the Miami Herald. The Miami Herald said, get out. I read some history on JP Morgan back around the turn of the century. We had over, I think we had hundreds of independent newspapers at the time. And the bankers got together. They decided, well, we got to control the information in order to control the people.

And they started buying up a lot of the independent presses, and now they’re doing snowballs. They’re doing it again. They just passed it yesterday, the Communications act. It isn’t just so that the telephone company and the cable company, that’s all they’re willing to talk about, can compete and bring down your. What is in the bill? It says that there’s no longer a limit on how many radio stations can be owned by one owner in a city. And the only way that authors like myself, and there’s many of them and big authors out there who can get the information out is talk radio across this country.

And so if they buy up those stations, all those talk hosts are going to be fired. Well, thank God we have public access. And around the country so far, you have public access. You have the right to, and you have underground, there’s a fact network, right? People don’t know about it. Wave radio, Internet, people are talking about this, but it’s quietly being talked about. The news isn’t picking up. All the major newspapers just gloss right over it. They spend, you know, all their time talking about the Fortune 500 companies, which do the smallest amount of business in this country to begin with.

So they’re not focusing on what the people have to say, and they’re just quieting us down. It’s a very frightening thing. Very true. And if people are only reading the press and the television, they’re not getting any idea of what’s really running this country. And there’s one other little frightening fact. I want to get in here. Across the country, there are private companies that come in and run the elections for the election supervisors, the election supervisor who should be in charge in the last person that’s a constitutional office. Is it from a county level? County level.

County level, right. But they control whole states. Okay. They’ll go in and cover the whole midwest to cover the whole southeast like fiddler and chambers. We write about in there, DFM in California, triad out of Ohio. And there’s more. Then they control the whole states and they use their software, their programming. The election supervisor stands back and there’s no public bid on this. The public doesn’t know it’s happening. And if you check here in the state, they’re probably here too. Election supervisors are living in million dollar homes. How do we find out who that is? Well, that’s the most important part of what I have to say here tonight is that people have to go to their elections division and say, who counts our vote? Who programs the computer here? You have to ask to look in the backs of those machines.

I think every single person out there listening tonight should call the election supervisor and say, I want to look, I want to see how the print o matic works and maybe bring a video camera and bring a video camera and see what you. And it’s legal. We, we are allowed to know how this works, what’s going on? And aren’t we allowed to watch the league of women voters doing what they’re supposed to be doing? Exactly. And you should say, I want to see all the bills. I want to see who you’re paying and how much you’re paying to these people and what you’re going to find out because they found this out in Florida.

And I’m working with people in venues that they, they’re not going to answer you. They’re going to tell you to get out. And I want to say something. Civil servants should not be able to tell you what you can do. They’re sucking off of your taxpayer dollar. Every single one down in city hall has taken your dollar. But they intimidate people and most people are afraid to be intimidated by terrorized. Yeah, terror. You go down there and the election supervisor will say get out. But I’m saying right now, every election supervisor in this state who uses the print o Matic has a license steel.

And you would think that butter wouldn’t melt in their mouths when you talk to them and they’ll tell you they’re crazy and you don’t have to look at this and I can’t show it to you. Why? If I show it to you, it means you could possibly rig this election. That’s what they say and it’s garbage and they won’t let you see it. And I’d like people to send me that video and get a hold of me at Victoria House press in New York City and tell me what you find, because this investigation is going on.

How can we contact you? I mean, I’m sure there’s a lot of viewers tonight that would like to contact you. They can contact me at Victoria House Press in New York City. It’s in the phone book. And what telephone number do you have? 212 809 980999. Can’t miss. And if you forget, Victoria House Press like Queen Victoria. And I’m an investigative reporter. I go around and I check it out, and I tell you on the phone where to look. So I’ve had investigators all over the country call me and say, what should I do next? And I tell you what to do.

And basically everything that the elections division has, you could ask for every piece of paperwork. Everybody they pay and how much they pay out is available to the public and should never be hidden. And there’s nothing about the vote count that should be secret. Only the secret ballot, not the count. And if they’re trying to get the computer in here, sequoia Pacific of Jamestown, New York, owns the computer, too, as well as the print o matic. So what they’re trying to do is switch to the computer, and then it won’t make any difference. We have the printimatic, the lever, right? But you crank the handle on the piece of paper.

The secretary of state’s office was telling me that they’re old, they’re outdated now. So they’re. They want to go to the computer. It makes it real easy. And they can control it from their motel room. I really want to make that clear. They can control that computer from a modem. And we found bills in Titusville and all over the country, modems that the private companies come in and they can actually sit in a motel. One of the phenomena that people have seen across this country is like, they don’t have to rig an election if all their people are going to win.

If they know it, nobody’s running or all their people running. They own all the horses. Own all the horses in the race. If a charismatic leader comes up and doesn’t want to play the party game like we did in Florida and Susan Brennicker down there and various people, what they’ll do is they’ll let it run to see how you would have done and if you’re winning. And this is what people have seen across this country, probably in the state, the computer will break down they’ll tell you on television. Yes, exactly. When it comes and it breaks down and then everything, what happens? Then it comes back, only that one candidate is turned around.

They say, we’re going to get whipped. They turn it around and that’s it. And everybody goes to sleep. Oh, well, you know, they didn’t notice this little phenomena and yet in every state they’ve seen it and everywhere and the computer is broken down. We’re not getting actual results. We’re going to give you our projects. Then the last thing, I think we got a few minutes old hands on the clock here today they control the exit polls. This is really important. Oh, yeah. CB’s originally owned the exit polls and they’ve now merged. It’s called Voter news service.

It’s in the phone book in New York. It was NES news election. Now it’s VNS voter news service. You can get it in the phone book in New York. Robert Flaherty. And I forgot the guy from CB’s who controls the exit polls. But it’s in there, Warren Matofsky, they own him. And so when we checked on the New Hampshire primary, the New York Times the next day after the primary will run a box saying everything was done on projections so that at 07:01, how do you know who won? Nobody counted a vote. It’s based on exit.

People come out. We called every single election supervisor in the state of New Hampshire and they said, well, first of all, people only vote here in the middle of February in below zero weather. In the morning, quick before work and at night quick before they go home. Every exit pollster has to be 300ft from the pole. The numbers that the New York Times had been printing. And I suspect they’re not going to do that anymore because I’m onto them and so are people. Watch. They won’t print it anymore. But you can go back and look at the numbers and we printed it in the book.

4000 people came out of the poll, walked 300ft and filled out questionnaires that said whether their income was 50, 00, 10,000 over 80,001. Election supervisor said people who make over 80,000 in this state are probably non existent. And mainly they wouldn’t stand in line and give you a questionnaire for nothing. And then it says gay, jewish, lesbian. They had all those numbers, how it was broken down, catholic, unemployed, whatever. When you add up how many people in the time it would take to do that, they’d have to be lined up every five minutes around the clock to fill out this lengthy questionnaire, cold night.

And they said nobody’s ever seen them do it. It doesn’t happen. They never did. And when we tried to find out how it was done, we were told this is not a proper area of inquiry. You’ll find that out, too, because you can call vns in New York right now, call ask for Robert Flaherty. And so basically, they’re saying we’re doing something improper, and we don’t want you to know about it. That’s it. And that’s the exit polls that broke our rather in Jennings they’re going to come on at 07:01 and tell you who won the new Hampshire right down to that last person I’m old enough to remember.

When the vote would swing, you’d wait for the farm vote to outstate vote, the lower state vote, and it could go back and forth and you’d root. It doesn’t change all night, because the numbers are fixed from the beginning to the end, and nothing changes across America. What can we do? I know you have a petition in your book, vote scam to attorney Janet Reno, right? The front of the book says, the book that indicts Attorney General Janet Reno. She had me arrested in pursuit of this. It’s too late to tell you how, but it’s in there.

Janet and I have a meeting with Destiny, a rendezvous with destiny somewhere along the line, unless she gets out of office before I get her. But if people really want to bring this country back to the Norman Rockwell days, which we can, to the days when things really were kinder and gentler, run by real people, not the lawyers who play ball out there in every community and are scared to death of the powerful, people want more information, and the number again is 2128-0980-9909-0909-0 right. And I’m willing to speak. I’m willing to investigate. And if we can blow it out of the water and go back to paper ballots counted in the precincts, and they should be put in see through plastic boxes so they can’t use a box and stuff and sit there and have election sciences in high school schools and colleges and have everybody care about the vote, it will change this country overnight.

But if you don’t do it, it’s going into the pits of greed that is beyond anything that will the next four years, that revelation said. So for you people who’ve read the Bible, revelation said, the next four years are going to be terrible, and it can be stopped if people really care. What exactly where do you think we I have spoken to some state representatives and state senators and asked them to come on and hoping that they’re watching the show tonight. And I want them to come on and address these issues that ensure the people that we do have.

You can’t, none of them, they’re all beneficiaries. And as long as they got the print o matic in this state, well how can we trust. What can the people do? Can go to court, the people can go down with video cameras like flies. Hundreds of you should go to the election division, you shouldn’t just sit home or turn this shit. Yeah, go down and force them. And when that hand is forced, you should go to the newspaper and say look, we know you’re part of it. You’re part of it. You make a fortune every time there’s an election.

You control the power, the majority, even local ones. But the majors are, I mean I’m sure the Hartford paper here and the. I think people know a little bit about this too. And I think it’s just overwhelming. It’s frightening. And you know, the establishment has all this power, we need to take the people need to take the power of establishment. Just guys who put on their pants who would be scared to death if you come after them in numbers and say we want our vote back. But if you get intimidated by an election supervisor who says get out of here, you.

And because you’re the only one and you don’t have a video camera to record it and show your friends. That’s why I wrote the book. I said show it to people. They let them read the book. It doesn’t change the blueprints in the book. Well it’s certainly an explosive investigation. And tell us what’s next after. Well it’s vote scam too. It’s the shadow government and it’s what happened after the first book came out and whether the people of this country fought back or nothing. So what we’re doing tonight will be in the next book. Well I want to thank you Mister Crawleyer for coming on and these 2nd 2 hours of this edition at the end of the line.

James Collier. James, are you there? You are there. Yes. Can you hear me? Yes. I got you now, Jim. Thank you. You’ve been doing this a long time, haven’t you? Over 20 years. 26 years. Wow, that’s, that’s a lifetime for a lot of people, you know, without getting back too far into the past. But what got you to the point? And I understand your background was in the music business for years before you got into becoming really a hard nosed investigative journalist, so to speak. What was your background at the time? You. You switched gears and got into this? Well, no, actually I was.

I covered the revolution in Cuba in 59 with Castro, work for the Miami News. And. Yeah, I was always a writer from high school, college, edited college newspapers like that, and then got into the music business. That was the side business. 1969, the sixties. It was a great year. We had the biggest rock club in America. Really? Wow. So a journalist to an entertainment impresario, so to speak, and then back to journalism. You couldn’t shake the old, want to be a reporter. No, no, that’s very true, actually, when we got onto this story. Yeah. The average American is pretty much unable to grasp the potential for abuse that this system offers people with money and power.

What was it that got you to the point where you said, there’s something really wrong here and it needs to be looked into? Yeah. Well, actually, I have to go back to the beginning, which was 1970. The sixties, as I write in the book, were over. Seventies was a whole other decade. Like it fell off the end of the cliff right there. Sure. And that’s right. That’s a. That’s a pretty good analogy. You’re quite right. Yeah. Yeah. And I miss it. Well, those, those years. You know, a lot of people talk about the nineties and how neat they are, but I see.

I don’t want to pontificate here, but there’s not much of a value system left. It ebbs and flows like the tide. Right. I feel sorry for people who missed that decade. It was an incredible decade. It really was. All right. But anyway, my brother wanted to run for Congress. He always had since high school, and he was uniquely qualified. He knew the issues and he was a good looking tall guy. And so we went to New York City and we got a contract to do a book with the Dell publishing company called running through the system.

Ballots, not bullets. And the idea was that there was revolution in America then. That was how the sixties ended. That’s right. Seventies began and the Vietnam war was on, and people were saying, you can’t run through the system. The system doesn’t work. So we said, well, what is the system and why doesn’t it work and why can’t you run through it? And that was the premise of the book. And we were living in Miami at the time, and Dell gave us a good, good contract, good advance to do the book. And the idea was we wouldn’t spend a nickel.

We’d run against Claude Pepper, who was the father of Social Security in America. Yes. Yes. 70 year old man, congressman, Democrat, going to run as a Democrat, and we wouldn’t spend a nickel. It was really important. What would the poorest guy in this country be able to do, right? So we walked every street and shook hands and spoke in every church, every breakfast. And it was a good campaign. A lot of people were on our side. We didn’t expect to win, but we just wanted to see what a good grassroots campaign would do. Really? Yeah. September 3, 1970, was the primary night.

07:03. The CB’s affiliate there comes on the air and it predicts perfect vote percentages, 100% correct for 250 candidates in three minutes. And 20 minutes later, the NCC affiliate gives the same percentages, but it adds the digital vote total that each candidate would get. And they were 99.99% right. And you and Ken are sitting watching television and with your jaws hanging open. Well, yeah, it was a bit amazing. And one thing we saw, which became a national phenomena, you’ll see that people have seen it around the country. We call it that in the book. It was that at 921, we had gone from 16%.

That was 85%, 84% to 31%. And I was jumping up and down. Then the computer breaks down. Now is your so national. Yes. People around the country know what I’m talking about. Yeah. Surely Cod pepper is a very legendary name in the congressional annals. Right. But the computer breaking down, whether the news man will come on your station and say the computer is broken down and we’re not getting actual results, but we’ll give you our projections. Oh, yeah, we’ve, I’ve heard that. Sure. Right. You went from back. Yes, we were back to 16%. Yes. You went from 16 to 30.

What was it? 31. 31 to 16. Computer breaks down back to 16. Right. Only us. We were the only one that did that. Uh huh. And that happens across America and people have seen it in cities across the country. Oh, yeah. So the next day we go to the tv stations and we get the on air read up, the ones that their IBM readouts. Yes. That you see on the air. And indeed, there it was, 921. We were up to 31%. It was right in print. And, and so we said, you know, what was the criteria there for calling perfect vote totals? And it said right on the readout, one voting machine reporting.

Why is this magic voting machine? Yes. Representative of Quad Peppers district, which was on the west near the Everglades there. And Miami was at the time, was the whole black community, a liberty city in Overtown. And you guys did some real hard campaigning, didn’t you? We did. All through there, all through the black community, and then in the middle, along us one west of the bay was all european descent, and then on the beach, 100,000 jewish voters. Where were you going to get one voting machine? Right. Right. I. So they said, well, go to the league of Women Voters.

Uh huh. And what I’m about to tell everybody is a pilot project we stumbled onto. We stumbled on this pilot project which is now used across America. So what I’m telling you about Miami, I’ll amplify later. Anyway, where was the one voting machine? And they said, go to the League of Women Voters. And we went to the league north, Stephen Derfer, the president, Carl Gables. We said, where’s the magic machine? And she said, there is no such thing. Oh, really? Right. And she started to cry in the living room of her house and said, I don’t want to get caught in this thing.

You’re kidding. No, and you guys must. All right, that’s amazing. And we go to the FBI with that. We say, you got to interview this woman. And then we went to the computer programmer at channel seven, the NBC affiliate, Elton Davis, and we said, well, what’s your program? You know, how could you take one voting machine and get the vote for everybody? Perfect. And he said, you’ll never prove it. Now get out. Out of his office. And we went to the FBI on that one, said, you’ve got to interview these people because it’s all a fraud.

And then, of course, there’s more in the book. The ABC affiliate there, panel ten, didn’t run, didn’t run an election. They ran a movie that was owned by Katherine Graham of the Washington Post, plg. It says, for Philip L. Graham, her late husband, and again in 72, they did the same thing, admitting that they knew the elections were rigged, but they didn’t want to participate. So they ran a movie. Unprecedented. All right, so you’re gathering this evidence, and you, you go to the FBI, and does anybody want to hear you? Oh, yeah, the FBI has a whole report.

Anybody can get all those years of what we put in there under freedom of information, under Ken’s name and my name, too, Kenneth Collier. Anyway, in 1973, a few years later, we were pursuing that. They had rigged the counters on the plastic wheels. They used a lever style voting machines in Dade county then, which is used in 30% of the country now. The other 70% is a computer, and there’s a little pockets of paper ballots, right? You open the back in the morning and you read the zeros off the counters by your eyes. Zero, zero. And you fill in a canvas sheet, and you sign your name.

It says, I swear I saw the zeros. Lock it up. Vote all day. At night, you open up the back again, and you read the numbers per candidate. Fill in the front of the seat where it has their name and a slot to put the number, and then you sign your name, and that’s a certified election. You paste one seat up on the wall of the precinct so people can go from precinct to precinct and verify it. Send one to the county clerk and one to the elections division. And that would be an election tough to rig if it were a paper ballot election.

And in the end, the bottom line is we’ve got to go back to that in this country. Get rid of the Libra machines, but do it. Paper ballot counted by people. Right. India, Israel, and Great Britain all use paper ballots. They wouldn’t use what we’re doing here. Well, here it’s what, 10% maybe still do paper. That’s about. Yeah, North Carolina. Not even ten, just a couple pockets of it. Most is the computer, which we’ll get to anyway. They ship those machines out of town. And what I’m about to tell you now is a pilot project for the rest of America.

So I’ve given you two pilot projects, which you’ll see how they work nationwide later. They’ve retrofitted the machine with a device called the printimatic. And the print o matic is a piece of paper put over the back of the machine so that you couldn’t open the back anymore. They took the keys away from the precinct workers for the first time and said, we don’t trust you guys anymore. You good americans out there, we’re going to give you a handle to crank, and a roller will go across the piece of paper from now on. Who took the ability away from the precinct? The election supervisor.

All right. At the county level. County level. All right. And so on the precinct level, the captains could no longer open the back of the machines with keys. For decades. Yes. And so they said, you’ll crank a handle and we’ll go across these raised numbers, and it’ll make an imprint on the piece of paper, and it’ll come out a slot in the bottom, and you’ll certify that piece of paper, which was a cell game. Anyway, they. They did it the first time in Dade county, and they cranked the handle, went halfway across, and it jammed in almost every precinct, 600 precincts.

Wow. And so they sent in trouble shooters with keys because there were no more keys, and they opened it up, and the people saw that where the roller had not gone, there were zeros on the piece of paper, and they saw that the numbers were on the next piece of paper for nighttime. Wow. 4000 precinct workers walked off the job. And anybody wants to verify that? If you have LexisNexis, which is a source. Downloading source for the computer. Yes, it’s Knight Ritter newspapers. Miami Herald, September 24, 1974. Jim, was this the first big fix of these lever machines that you’re aware of, or did this thing go on all over the country where these machines were being used at that time? No, Miami was the pilot.

Project it. And so when the 4000 people walked off the job, the Herald wrote a story saying it was a big snafu, but they never said why. I see. And these people were obviously less than happy with what they had, and they put the firemen and policemen in their place. And what year again? And date of this? Yeah, give me the date of the paper. 24th, 1974, issue of the Miami Herald. All right, you can look it up, folks. It’s right there. All right. Now, hundreds of people went to the Herald, had beatings, and went to the Herald and the tv stations and said, hey, look, everything Talia has been saying over these last years is true.

And we saw it with our own eyes here. And they all said, just get out. You know, we’re not doing any stories. So the bottom line is newspapers and television stations in America rig elections. That’s the bottom line. They’re the most powerful entity in any town in the country. Nobody’s bigger. Politicians are subservient to the newspaper owner because they can be crushed. Any industrialist or merchant in town isn’t bigger. You know, nobody’s bigger. So they control the power. And people don’t understand how few major corporations own and do control the print media in this country. There you go.

I think it may be less now, but they’re shuffling it around, and it gets even worse. Now we take it all to the circuit court, and the circuit court appoints an ombudsman, an attorney. They said, you guys aren’t officers of the court. We’ll give you an officer of the court. You take it all to him, everything you’ve proven. If he finds it worthy, he’ll bring it. And his name was Ellis Rubin, and Rubin was the Watergate burglars attorney. He was the FAA. The guys who struck the power guy. I remember that. The air controllers. Right, air controllers.

So he was big time media attorney. This is in 1973. And four, yes, he finds it all to be true. And the FBI and the organized crime Bureau in Dade county agree. We have proven how they rigged it. And it’s, and I don’t want to tell you here, because it’s like the book is filled with cliffhangers, like crying game, where if I give it away here, you’ll really be mad when you read the book. Yeah, no, don’t. And there are stories and little anecdotes and asides in this book, how you guys were actually, I hate to use the word, but if you were purloining various pieces of paper to prove your case, stole every document we could out of city hall in three counties and dared the sheriffs to arrest us, and they said, keep us out of this.

I know this story is incredible. And this is the part of the book that just kept me just sitting there reading, and I couldn’t believe the guts you guys had just to go right face to face and just actually take documents. Yeah, because they would have thrown them away or burned them or threaded them or whatever, and we would just. We got arrested, too, for doing various things that we did. But you have to be willing to risk that. And by the end of this show, people hanging in there for 2 hours, I’m going to advocate strongly what you can do to bring back honest elections and even getting arrested, really, it’s a lot more fun than you think.

Now, remember this for our listeners is 22 years ago. What’s going on right now. And Jim is describing a pilot project in Dade county where these voting machines, the lever machines, were obviously set up in advance of the voting process. All the incumbents won. That’s right. An incumbent never lost in Dade county. And if they. If they died or something, they’d be appointed. And that incumbent would always win. And that’s the case in most of the country, which is indicative of controlled government. Yes, because I don’t believe incumbents would win on that kind of level, but they’re kept in.

And, you know, you can get cynical about it and say, well, democracies don’t really work. Control dictatorships in cities, states, and federal government is what keeps the trains running. Hitler learned that. Mussolini learned that it’s well regulated. Right? So they know that here. Continuing our amazing discussion with James Collier, the author, along with Ken Colliere, a vote scam, the stealing of America, talking about that incredible pilot project in Dade County, Florida, that the colliers came across and exposed, literally, by stealing where they had to election results and papers to prove their point that the fix was in.

Go ahead, Jim. Right. So we take it all to Ellis, and he finds it efficacious, and he takes it to the state attorney’s office, and he goes in, waives immunity. And they made him do it, which is an intimidation of a lawyer to make him waive immunity, which means they can prosecute him. But he waived it. And I thought, wow, this is the felix surprise. Now we got this hero working for us, right? He comes out 20 minutes later, stands in front of the mic tv cameras, his face is acid. And he says, state attorney Janet Reno has told me to tell you that the statute of limitations has run out on the system, and she refuses to prosecute any.

So I went to Pulitzer, but what we had was Janet, whose father taught me, Hank Reno taught me to be an investigative reporter. I was a police reporter on the Miami news, and he was the best investigative reporter in Miami on the Herald. And there was Janet telling Ellis that he knew there was a crime, and he said the statute of limitations, which was a lie, there’s none on fraud, and he wouldn’t prosecute. And he later wrote us an affidavit saying that. He said to him, Ellis, if I do what you want, it’ll bring down everybody in the county, from tv stations to judges and politicians.

I’m not going to do it. And so is that. And he didn’t. He was the assistant state attorney. They made a state attorney after that. Yes. And of course, he’s now the attorney general of the United States and protecting election rigors nationwide. And anyway, that was the end of the first part of the story. 1982, the Republican National Committee put out a reward offer, and they said, we know there’s election rigging in the United States, and we’ll give you $5,000 for any arrest and conviction you can get of anybody caught tampering with the vote. And they put this out through newspapers and all over the country.

I vaguely remember that. Right. And we were working for a newspaper in Miami at the time. And so we heard that the league of women voters, one more time, was up in a building in Dade county, out in the Everglades. A bunker like building was the CIA’s communications building. And they were punching thousands of holes in the computer vote cars. Now, these are, these are members of the League of Women Voters, Elwv, with small pencils poking holes in voter cards. Right. The pencils were issued by the elections division so they could do it. And how did James Collier find this out? I was.

We were given a tip by people who had been up there and seen it happen. Mm hmm. So we got a video camera and we said, we’re going to video. We told the election supervisor, David Leahy, he’s still there in Miami, could be in a federal prison, but he’s still there, right. That we’re going to follow the ballot. Now this is what I’m going to tell you now I want people listening to do, come November 5, if this country means anything to you at all, then listen to what, what I’m saying, because I’ve said this enough.

I’ve been speaking around the country and doing radio, and I’m going to do this. Okay. So anyway, set the stage again, Jim. This is a league of women voters in a building, right. Pre punching ballots. Right. Holes in the computer ballot. Right. And so we, we told the election supervisor we were going to follow the ballot from 07:00 at night until it got counted. Mm hmm. With a video camera. The precinct, the polls close, which is what I was saying before. I want everybody to do, go get a camera, get a big friend and go do it.

Follow your ballot. Follow your ballot. Right. So, uh, he said we’d be arrested if we do. Think about that. Now, who said this to you? The election supervisor of Dade County, David Leahy. And he’s still there. Still there, right. Still rigging elections. You, Jim Collier, will be arrested if you attempt to follow your legal ballot with a video camera. Right. So we went into a precinct at about ten to seven and caused a ruckus as a diversion. And when they went to call Leahy and call the cops, we went over to another precinct. We ducked out while the guy left site.

And we went in and we said, we’re from the Miami Herald. We had a tv camera and everybody just played ball with us there. And we videotaped, there were pencils in the hands of those people and they would have punched holes right there in the precincts had we not been there. And when you punch a hole in the computer, like if you vote for Charlie, and they don’t want Charlie’s vote there, they’ll punch Charlie’s opponent. So now it invalidates both of them. Sure. It’s a null ballot, right? Sure. So a thing people can do tomorrow or whenever they can for the election, call your election supervisors in your county and say, when do these computer ballots go home to the precinct captain? There’s about 1000 ballots per precinct.

And they go home in metal boxes to these people and they go home anywhere from 24 hours to two weeks ahead of the election, private people have your ballot in their house, but not only your southeast, but they have duplicate sets. They have 2000. And I was out in California a few weeks ago giving speeches. And they said, oh, yeah, we had 3003 sets, triple sets, so they can punch holes in them at home in the cars on the way from the precinct where we were in now watching them do this thing. And they would dump the ballots out on a table and orient them.

These were the computer cards where they had a beveled edge on one side so that you could tell which is the upper left hand. And they’d orient them all in that way and put them in a box so they could run through the counter later. Yeah. And, and those cards would then go to, like a high school, say ten precincts would meet at a high school or 20 or 30 because there’s like 600 in a big county, so they can all head downtown. That’s right. And then the cops would take them from there. So it would, to make it smaller amounts and they would substitute them in the cars.

Jim, you’re asking a lot of people listening to this program tonight to believe that an awful lot of precinct workers are culpable of some pretty major crimes here. Yeah. Who’s orchestrating this? And how do you get so many people to go along with? Because people, people will do it until you look into it. You would be surprised what your fellow American is capable of doing when they believe that. You know, you got Rush Limbaugh on the air saying that if you are a liberal, you are lower than scum. And so you’re in the precinct and there’s somebody who’s a Democrat, you know, liberal, you’re gonna say, oh, I’m gonna take care of this.

And they do it. They really do it. And they, and they feel good about it. So hatred is the motivator here. Yeah. And patriot, they think they’re being patriotic, but they’re really just hating. Right. And people will feed Americans, you know, this concept that Americans won’t beat their fellow Americans. Give me a break. I mean, they will. You count your chains when you leave. Leave something down somewhere. And they tell you, you know, don’t leave your articles in your car. And yet you don’t think they’ll steal the vote. They will. Right. Well, we were in Los Angeles the other day.

My brother went into a restroom, left some gift items there on the counter, went back 30 seconds later and they were gone. Yeah. And so people who think that these people working in the precincts won’t steal, you they’ll steal it in a flash. Nobody’s watched it. Yeah. Now, Jim, you’ve, you’ve told me that many precincts, goodness knows, if not most, get at least two sets of ballots, in some cases three. Why, why would a precinct get. Why are there two sets of ballots printed going into this whole election season? Well, you know, that’s the weird part.

When I get to the end of the story, you’ll see what I mean. Everything happening on the. The street level, precinct level, and all that means nothing to the final outcome. All right? Okay. It’s just a sideshow. It’s diversion. Exactly. So you’ll find out there. Also, if you duplicate seals, like wire seals with a plastic bottom, they’re u shaped, the kind you have people who have houses with electric meters on them. Right. That kind of thing to seal the box. Okay. Some places in California, they said we had padlocks and they gave us a key. Well, what good is that? You unlock the padillock and you get in to, you know, so the u shaped seals, they would.

The seals would break in the cars on the way. Some mysterious force would make a wire seal, twist itself up in a car and break. Right. And they’d bring them in with the broken seals. And people have videotaped that. And, of course, we have across the country and substitute ballots. Now let me get back to. We have about 60 seconds before our next break. You’re still encouraging people then to get a video camera and follow your ballot. And yet, on the other hand, if these ballots are in the hands of precinct captains and so forth, two days to two weeks prior to the election, there are two sets of ballots.

It’s almost an exercise in futility. I would see is the seals, if you follow it close enough, the duplicate seals, they’ll try to keep you out of the precincts. Now, there’s no law in this country that says you can’t be in a precinct after 07:00 you cannot have a secret count. And yet almost everywhere the count is secret. Oh, they are. Yeah. The ballot is secret, the vote, so you can’t be intimidated. But the secret count is illegal. But it’s being put in by the crooks to console the county. And they’ll tell you you can’t be in the precinct after 07:00 and that’s wrong.

And be willing to be arrested. Wow. I want to see the statute that says I can’t be here. Yeah, I don’t think we’ll see it. It’s not there. Go ahead. Anyway, so now we get down to the. We follow it from the high school where the police. Yeah, they’re locks. They come downtown to this bunker like building out in the everglades. Right. And you’re videotaping your cameras running. Right. Okay. 20 miles out of town, dark of night. Right. Nobody around. Right. You need id to get in, which is illegal. Oh, the founding fathers would love it.

And cops at the door, security guards, tv cameras and dogs. Free election, right? All to keep people out. And we got in, we got up to the third floor, and we videotaped the league of women voters punching thousands of holes in the vote cards. So we had a Miami Herald reporter there because we told him we were going to get arrested. Bob Lowe, he was a Pulitzer Prize winner. And Bob writes a story the next day saying that volunteer women. He said, he said the league of women voters, but that the city desk cut it out.

We’re sitting there punching thousands of holes in the vote card, that there was a blizzard of sad. That’s the little white piece that you punched out of the hole. Sure. Center. And the doughnut on the tables and chairs and dresses and the floor beneath their feet, each representing a vote. And this was 1982 election sometime in October, I believe people want to check that out. And then we went into the room where those ballots go next to be counted, and they have these eight machines. They had nine machines called ballot multiplexers, BMX machines. And what it is, is a console, floor console.

And you put 1000 votes in one side of a hopper and a pneumatic source sucks them past the light, and it reads the holes in the card onto a magnetic tape that turns like a movie reel, right, and comes out the other side. Eight of the nine machines were empty. How many? Eight. Eight of the nine were not right. And we see, if you get the video, you’ll see those machines totally dark with the mayor and women and judges all partying in the room. And the machines are not running. Not running. At the height of the count, ten to nine, you see a clock saying ten to nine.

All right, hours into the count. So we go to the 9th machine, and there. There’s a guy taking a card from the already counted side and putting it back to be recounted, which is a federal offense, refeeding it. So the FBI stop acting it in the hand and the arc going from one side to the other, left to right, and the holes in the card were running the wrong way. It wasn’t even vote cards. It was just a phony deck of cards running over and over again. And then a hand that goes over the lens of the camera says, get them out of here.

And they drag us down three flights of steps, a cop on each of one of our arms. Ken keeps the camera running, and they drag us up in the street and they say, don’t come back or you’ll be arrested. Wow. That’s the end of our hour. And you guys were lucky to get away with your camera. That was pretty dumb. Now let you have the camera. Amazing. And we can get a tape of that, a copy of that tape by calling 1808 8991 808. Eight, nine, nine hour number three. Coming up, the story of Jim Collier and vote scam, the stealing of America will continue here at the end of the line.

Our number three, the end of the line. I’m Jeff rents. We’ve been talking with James Collier, who has written a landmark book, along with his brother Ken, called vote the stealing of America. And on the back cover, it sort of sums it up here. This is the weirdest, wildest, and most astonishing non fiction detective story you will ever read. And I have to agree with that statement. After listening to Jim Collier for an hour, Jim is telling us some amazing things about vote stealing and vote fraud involving, among others, the League of Women Voters. Jim, to start this hour off, tell the people who, in fact, the League of Women Voters is and what strength that national organization carries.

Yeah. It isn’t what people think. It, it isn’t apple pie, motherhood. It has an agenda, and it gets money from every major corporation in America. Millions, right? I’m told hundreds of millions of dollars from these corporations into their coffers. It gets paid by the television networks. I’m about to explain this part. To be in the field. Remember the pilot project in Miami where they were supposedly calling the votes back from the precinct? Yes. Yes. They’re paid to be out in 110,000 precincts out there in America by the tv network, supposedly calling back numbers. And they’re paid by election divisions around the country, counties in the country, to be in that.

You know, that whole punching party that they had. Yes, I was in California. Well, I first went to Cincinnati in 85. Somewhere back then. Videotape. The League of Women Voters, they’re using tweezers to tweeze out a slate of votes. There. You got that on tape. On tape. Videotape issue. All right. And went on w, took it to the tv station, Channel nine there, played it, went on WCKY, the Jen Michaelson show. He’s now on who in Des Moines for people who want to call up Jan and ask him. And Jen challenged the election supervisor of Cincinnati, Alvaro Radford had been there 20 years to deny that the league was using tweezers to rig the election.

And she resigned. Wow. I understand that the. I haven’t read it myself, but new America, the Bircher magazine, yes, crashed me this month saying, well, Alvirah Radford really resigned 45 days later. But for anybody who’s read that, that magazine, I think they’ve all been compromised over there by the CIA. But anyone who’s read it, he resigned the next day. He just didn’t make it official because nobody pushed it. Interesting. 45 days and then walked out. Wasn’t intending to. Jim, what you’re telling us is really incredible. And I’ve looked at the book and read much of it.

It’s all in the book, ladies and gentlemen, and the book is only $10.01 808 eight, three eight and four nines. $10 on a videotape which shows some obviously shocking behavior on the part of the League of Women Voters. You told us a moment ago, Jim, that thousands and thousands of LWV members are paid. League of Women voters members are paid to go to the precinct and phone results in. Is that correct? Right. I’ll explain that story. I. Please do. And I want to know who those results are phoned into and how, how honorable that individual might be in the book.

By the way, we sue every, we go to Washington, the Christian Broadcasting Network, Pat Roberts Robertson 700 club buys the tape for 2100 bucks. He shows it on the air and we sue everybody in federal court and we win. But what happens to us in there will blow you away. So I’m not going to tell, tell what happened there. Anyway. Incredible story. Yeah. In the, in pursuit of all this, we were rummaging through the Library of Congress looking for documents because investigative reporting is mainly a document paper chase. That’s what you can prove things with. And we find out that the root of all of this started in 1964 when the Kennedy was assassinated.

There was a feeding frenzy in Washington. We found out that there was a feeding frenzy by the FBI, the CIA, television networks, ABC, NBC, CB’s, AP, UPI, Washington Post, New York Times, the Congress, Senate, everybody jockeying for power when Kevin D. Was assassinated. And they all got together, representative of all these groups, power groups. And the deal that was struck was that the media would not contradict the Warren Commission report that Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone gunman in Texas. And they have not done it to this day. No, they haven’t. But they want the right to count the vote.

They being the media, formed a network pool called News Election Services nes. Today it’s called if you people are taking notes because I don’t have this update in the book. It’s VNS voter news service. It’s in the phone book in New York City, voter news service. And what happens is the television networks own the polls that tell you how you’re thinking on a day to day basis. They then own the exit polls that tell you at 07:01 when Brokaw, rather and Jennings go on the air. And they say we’re the first with the most here at CB’s, they’re lying.

They’re all getting it from a Pravda type bulletin board. Tote board. At 225 West 34th street in New York City, the Pennsylvania building, 8th floor, there’s a big board and it has America gridded off 110,000 precincts, 3500 counties. And they can change votes at will from a computer, a mainframe computer there that ties into the mainframe computer of every county in America. And people who are on the Internet know, in the beginning, I used to tell this story, people say, how can you do that? But now you know how easy the world’s tied together. So they have it all there and they can change the votes in any county in America at will from New York City.

Any. And they’re tied into the secretary of state’s office too, where the final vote totals reside so they can coordinate numbers. Anyway, when Brokaw, rather and Jennings come on and say they’re the first with the most, they’re lying and all the rest is the raid. And these guys know it. And, and this pool has all the numbers. The exit poll that the 701 is their exit poll. Yes. That was called voter research and survey. VRs. Voter research and survey. That’s what merged with NES to make voter new service. And when you, if you go back and look at old newspapers after the election, any Super Tuesday or major election primaries, whatever, you will see that there’s a box that says based on exit polls from voter research and survey, these are the numbers of what the candidates would get.

And so when we tried to find out where were these exit polls taken? What precinct? Remember the pilot project in Miami? The one voting machine? Yes. All right. Now you see how it ties together. Oh, yes. They’re doing the same garbage out there. So we say, where is it? Where’s the magic precinct? And we were told that’s not a proper area of inquiry. Well, then I think the best investigative reporting we did in the book was pursuing that and finding out all the machinations, that it’s all a fraud as far as we’re concerned. Who made that exact statement to you? That’s not a proper area of inquiry.

His name is Warren Matovsky, and the other guy was Robert Flaherty. They both say it. One was the head of NBC News and the other was head of CB’s. And they own. They’re together now. They have. They’re in charge of voter research and survey and the voter news service. And they’re the ones who said, well, there you have it. Should people even bother to vote, Jim? Well, I’m not saying that they shouldn’t, because people get angry when I say that, but I think it’s not worth anything. Hardly anywhere I want them to do is prove that.

Don’t take my word for it. Get a video camera, start checking it out. Don’t just sit there. Don’t just get angry. Don’t just get depressed. Get the videotape. That’s why we made it. And get the book and pass it around. Follow your vote on election e. You’ll see for yourself. And then get all your neighbors angry and go back to paper ballots. People are going to federal court now in this country over it. They’re trying to write legislation now which will be networking on and on the computer networks for, when I get it, to go back to paper ballot.

He plays this started back in 1964. Yes. What about when Kennedy ran in 1960? Yeah, well, he rigged Chicago for sure. But the whole network. Control of the vote, the vote count, because I’m gonna about to tell you how the primaries were rigged and the networks were coming to vote was 64, and they were probably rigging elections before that. Other Americans have been asleep for years. Stuff in ballot boxes, things like that. What Jim is saying, Tom, is that the actual agreement was struck in 1964 between the powers that be that the american media would, in fact, control the election outcome.

Any other questions? At all level? Yeah, potentially at all levels. Yes. Yeah. Anybody can go to a news, especially Palm beach, where Jackie Winchester is your election supervisor. There. I’ve gone. I had Jackie on the phone a few months ago, and I accused her of rigging the election. I’ve had her in tears. And the Palm Beach Post, the Fort Lauderdale sunset, old Buddy Nevins down there, you check it out with those guys. They can’t even write a word about election rigging. So in other words, you’re saying there’s a systematic bias in favor of how come the party, how come the presidency switches back and forth.

Yeah, it doesn’t. As far as the presidency is concerned, it’s one party. If you track back with CIA, he anointed Clinton, who was, who was CIA. If you read Terry Reid’s book, compromised. And Bush didn’t want to win. No, he was out of there because of the Iran cantrip. Iran. He was in big trouble, a lot of trouble. If he consults with CIA, what does it matter? Well, we’re not. If he controls the whole ball, because human nature, once you control the ballgame, you don’t, you don’t let it go for. Just. Just grin. Yeah, because there were people on the trail, you know, hot press is still, no matter what, you can’t get away with everything.

Otherwise it would just be a total dictatorship that people would see and there would be a war here. Jim, do you have a couple of books you can recommend for Tom? Terry Reed’s book, Terry Reid’s compromise. That is the very best book written on the subject, and it’ll thicken you, and it ties in with everything we’re saying. I was amazed when I read it. The book is entitled compromised Bush, Clinton and the CIA. The author is Terry Reid Reed. And I’ve had Terry on the program before. Just a heartbreaking story from that man. And by all means, Tom, do get the book and read it, and then make your own decisions.

Let’s say you go there with a video camera in your precinct. Let’s say there’s one precinct out of 110,000. Yeah, but follow it all the way down to Jackie Winchester’s office, and you’ll see that the ballots will disappear up a back step and out of sight all the, all the security boxes that they come in from the precincts, and you’ll see that it gets counted on the BMX machines where they put, you know, they have this logic inaccuracy test at 07:00 in the morning before the election, and they run, you know, Lincoln versus Washington. See, you voted and came out.

Logic and accuracy that the machines are fine, but then at night, if you videotape it, he puts up to 20 header cards, which is a card in front of the precincts before it’s counted. And you’ll see that happening. And it tells it how to read the precinct. It can tell it skip every other vote, whatever. So whatever logic and accuracy is done in the morning, counting her cards ahead of each precinct, if she’s counting them in, those BMX machines will change everything. And after the vote, I presume they thread everything. Oh, yeah. You’ll never get those ballots again.

And if you do, they’ll all be pre punched. It’s still back to paper ballots. Yeah, there has to be, there has to be an independent. If there’s ever a ghost of a chance, has to be an independent way to vote now. I mean, there has to be like a check and double check. We’re going to get into that, explaining how this thing can be brought back to at least a measure of normal normalcy and time. And thanks very much, Tom, for the call. So continue to listen and we will continue to lay this out here. Jim has some solutions to all this.

Go ahead, Jim. We’re about a minute away from our break. Companies in this country that come in and run the vote, most of the state of Florida is run by private companies. The election supervisors don’t even run their own elections. They don’t run the computers. The Omaha World Herald, a newspaper owns a company called American Information Systems AI’s. It controls 519 counties in America. There’s only about 3500. So 20% of the country owned and run and controlled and vote counted by the Omaha World Herald. Incredible. Yeah. That I’m speaking around the country and will be after the election, too, because it goes on and thousands of people will be learning using this election that what we’re saying is through and videotaping their elections.

And they’re sending me copies of the video. And so you can reach me at Victoria House press. Get out your pencils and papers and take this down. Victoria House press, like Queen Victoria House press in New York City. And that’s at 67 Wall Street. Wall Street. 67 Wall street. And that suite 20, 411 24. One, one New York one, triple zero, five. And I know a lot of people will say, how do I get ahold of this guy here? And they know in their own precincts and communities, they’ve seen it themselves all over America. I’ll be up in Michigan on the 24th of this month, up in Lansing speaking.

So anyway, Victoria House press at 67 Wall Street, Suite 20, 411, New York, 1005. You can get me the, the primaries. They were rigged, as far as we can determine to keep Buchanan out. And let’s start in Iowa. There, there was caucuses, which is a showing of hands after 07:00 at night in people’s houses and, you know, fire houses and rules and all that. They don’t vote all day. Right. This time they voted with a paper ballot first time. First time. Right. And, and I wrote about this in media bypass so people can get a copy of this and it was printed so everything I’m saying would be subject to libel and challenge.

Anyway, they voted on the paper ballot and they were told, don’t turn in the ballot, throw it away, don’t send it downtown to be recorded the next day in the paper. They see, of course, dole wins, that 13% of the vote was shaved from Buchanan. From what they knew they had the night before, 4% was added to Dole. And when they called up the election supervisors, they said, oh, don’t worry. Was it typo? And, and then when we called the election supervisors and said, when’s the election going to be certified? They said, when the media tells, because Nes counted the vote, they actually did that, right? Yeah.

Anyone can call them today. They didn’t register that vote except when the media told them what the numbers would be. Now he got, Buchanan goes to New Hampshire, and we have a story in there where Bush rigged the New Hampshire primary to beat Dole in 88. And it’s a really good story. Yeah, the miracle. Yeah, the miracle of New Hampshire. As we were talking a moment ago, Jim Kyer was mentioning the Iowa political caucus debacle this year and the Bush Dole miracle in New Hampshire, which all this is in the book, with the exception of the caucuses we were just mentioning.

It’s all laid out in the book. It’s an amazing read. And I would urge you as a basic political exercise of an american citizen, to read this book. You don’t have to agree with it, but read it and think about it. Go ahead, Jim. Anyway, Buchanan goes to New Hampshire and he takes out a big ass in the Manchester Guardian, and it says, we read vote scam. I didn’t know he was going to do this. He says, we read vote scam, and we know you re elections don’t do it this year. Wow. And he wins. That’s why he won.

He wins New Hampshire. Wow. And the media the next day says he’ll never win another primary. And, you know, the momentum that carried George Bush in 88 on to win the country, you know, was all contrived. Right? But there was no momentum out of hamster for Buchanan. And the media knew it. Right? Why no momentum? And he was just stripped in every part. Me. Now he goes to Arizona, Nes vns, comes on the news pool and says, buchanan wins. And then they say, oops, Forbes wins. The next day, they all apologized. Bernard saw and see it.

And everybody, they apologize. Forbes won. I get a call from the Buchanan people and they said what happened was that they all used plastic voting cards when they voted it had a seven digit number on it. That was your id number. And when you voted, you wrote that number down on a piece of paper in the precinct. And then they punched the card so you couldn’t vote twice except for a little thing. They issued 60,000 extra above the 219,000 that voted. Wow. So people saw hundreds, thousands of people voting twice. And the election supervisor put out a report, Sharon Osborne, saying that only two people voted twice on the 60,000.

Only two. Only two. And so the Buchanan people called me and said, well, what can we do? You know what they said? So I called up the election supervisor and I said, how do you know? And she said, because we hired 20 people. And they worked for three days after the election, twelve hour days. And they punched the seven digit numbers into the computer. 219,000. Enough. Only two came up to us. So I said, how many people? She said, 13. So I didn’t say anything. I said, okay. I’m figuring, because I don’t know what exactly what I’m after here yet.

I’m figuring. I said, well, 219,000 voters times seven digit number, that’s a million and a half digit. Right. I said, how many hours did you work? Right. And how many people? She said, tend. Well, now I know they rigging the election because it went from 20 to 13 to ten. He said, eleven and a half hour. No, 11 hours and 45 minutes, 15 minutes break. I said, 115. Well, maybe 211 and a half hours. That comes out to 50,000 digits a day. Punched by these people. That’s more than 1 second. Mm hmm. I said, did you ever hear of carpal tunnel syndrome? And I said, give me the name of the ten people.

After all, they have to be a public employees. They have to be pay records, whatever. I can’t give them to you. I said, give me the readouts with the 219,007 digit numbers. Are it. I can’t give those to you. And people in Maricopa county, in Phoenix there have been trying to get it ever since. And of course, they don’t exist because it never happened. And that’s how Forbes obviously bought that election, or someone bought it for him. Wow. In New Orleans, Susan Wernicker of New Orleans, you have a station down there, right? Yes. He, he runs a dance studio and karate club and all that down there.

And she’s real popular about 41 year old lady Washington. Everybody loved her. And the polish show. She couldn’t lose. Running for a city, a county commission spot in Jefferson Parish. The incumbent that she was running against, Nick Gambaluca, 70 year old man who would fall asleep at meetings. And it was time for a change. And three weeks before the election, December 3 of last year for the primary, Nick Gambaluca’s nephew, who was the election supervisor, was found with a bullet in his head behind a dumpster in an alley. Not a word in the papers about it.

They just substituted another election supervisor, shoved another guy in his spot. Who loses, Uncle Nikki wins. He goes to the warehouse the next day where the computers are, the voting computers, machines the people voted on. And she videotapes them and she pushes a button that votes, and there’s a liquid display, crystal display, about side high, and she pushes a button and she photographs it. Voted for Sue Bernacher four times. It votes for her. The fifth, 6th, 7th, 8th. It votes for Uncle Nikki. And she does a dozen or so machines and they all do the same thing rigged for Uncle Nicky.

And she’s videotaping this. Yeah, she takes it in all three television states. Run it once, no crusading, no comment, just run it once. Newspaper writes nothing. The time is picky in. If he goes to court and sues the judge, he gets in normal rotation, is taken off the case fixing judge is put in, he gives her a five minute hearing, no witnesses, and throws her out. Now, in Missouri, they had the only honest election. Buchana dull wins across the country, 61 or 52% in every state, just schematically the state. And that’s important to notice on election day.

Whatever happens, whatever numbers Brokaw rather and Jennings give you at 07:01 in the east, they won’t change all night. So there’s several phenomena in this country that you can see even in your local elections, the numbers that come in at 07:00 or whenever the polls close will not change all night. And that’s how, you know, the old days, it used to go up and down. Even when I watched the israeli elections where Perez was against Netanyahu, who Perez was winning in the beginning, and then Yahoo win. So there’s no, there’s no wave in America. It’s, it’s like a dead heartbeat.

You know, you’re right. I remember when I was a kid and I used to be, honestly, I don’t pay too much attention to elections anymore for probably fairly obvious reasons. I’m not apolitical, but I watched and I used to see swings back and forth, right, the farm playing with the outlandish, up by a head, back by half a length, up by a neck, and so on. And so now you’re right. It’s almost a dead heartbeat. That’s very interesting. There might be one or two percentage swing won’t change because they’d have to tell us where it changed.

And our research showed that Perot won the, that election when he ran. Really? Yeah. He took whole cities, cleaned them out. All cities voted for him. And they gave him 19% because they said they’d give him 19. And he got it across the board. Well, they were good to their word, weren’t they? Anyway, that’s why there’s that open letter to Perot in there that you thought was funny. I said, I think go to these guys, these private companies that run the elections in America, DFM in California, AI’s filler and chambers, and pay them a few million bucks and they’ll hack in.

You’ll hack in. It’ll be a great night. You told him how to win. Paper ballot election counted in the precincts and sent downtown and recorded and done properly, Buchanan and Keys win. The media didn’t cover it. The only one they didn’t cover in Kansas, where Dole is, it’s his home state. They didn’t hold a primary because the polls showed. Did he lose in his home state? Bob Dole and people were up in arms and protesting. All media didn’t print anything about it, but they didn’t hold the primary because that would have been too embarrassing. And so basically that’s, that’s the story out there.

And, you know, the book is filled with other adventures and lawsuits and. Yeah, it’s, it’s, it is truly a great read. All right, let’s give them some hope now, Jim. Yeah, that’s going to come to if people videotape their elections. All of you, don’t be lazy. You can get a videotape. And don’t be afraid. Right. Afraid. Right. Go down there and say, you call them up. Say, is there any statute that says I can’t videotape this election from beginning to end? That the total after 07:00 at night, including the vote counting. The counting, yeah. Nothing all day.

You’re not allowed to do it all day. That would be illegal. You’d be intimidating people after 07:00. The open count can’t be secret. If they say yes, you can’t do it right away. You know, you got trouble in River City. And then as you start to follow your ballot, you’ll see what happens now when people say, well, I vote on paper ballot, but we run it through this little machine in the precinct. Oh, that’s not a paper ballot, that’s a computer. You run it through and you leave. It’s now on a chip, and they take those paper ballots away and they can have substitutes, sets you that, you know, you challenge them, two weeks later, they’ll bring you the set that matches what’s on the computer chip.

It’s already in the machine. Right. Right. So, so you do that so that you have a weapon. If you can’t do that, get my tape. Because what I got on my tape in Miami that Pat Robertson paid $2,500 to show is what you’ll see on your tape. 1808, eight. You can also write to Victoria House for the 800 numbers for credit cards, Victoria House press in New York City. You can send them a check, $10 for the book plus $2 for shipping and handling and $20 for the tape, plus $3 for shipping. And so you get it there.

Or the book at Barnes and Noble, too. Jim, how long, I guess, is an election pre planned on a national scale and in your estimation? We’ve got, got polls, of course, that go on for months and so on. And let us have your view on that. This was planned way in advance. Buchanan was the guy who was supposed to dance on the stage like a buffoon, and he did, and he said all the things people wanted to hear. But he was told from the beginning, as far as I can determine, because I met with him, that he was going to lose.

And of course, Dole was told that he’s going to lose this time, but just go out there and do what he’s going to do. Do. And, but the thing, again, the good news is that I’m networking with people around the country. I’m speaking in places that I used to charge a fee, but I knocked that off. I just go into places. People bring me into town, and we hold seminars and people are going to federal court and suing. They’re writing legislation to go for paper ballots. They’re documenting the election rigging in their town. They’re documenting that their local newspaper and tv stations are the rigors of.

And over the next four years, of course, we’re going to keep this going. It isn’t going to end. This election is just a stage that all you people listening, if you go out and really apply yourself, go to your elections divisions and demand the paper trail. How much money do they spend on election and for who and for what? The league of Women Voters. The money that they get doesn’t go to them. It goes to the national coffee. But you’ll find that contingent of people down there in your precincts, wherever that computer ballot is, the punch card, sitting there doing something, getting paid by taxpayers dollars, and it’s not public bid, and it’s not public knowledge they’re there.

They’ll tell you that they’re city employees, but they’re not. You say, I want to see the overtime cards. They’re not. And in the files, I’m telling people, go to their elections division. Get someone who’s tough enough to do it if you’re afraid, and say, look, I want to see how my taxpayers money is spent on what you will see, the private companies. The money spent hundreds of thousands of dollars per election, primary runoff, final for private companies to come in. Election supervisors stand back. They don’t run their own computers. And these private companies do it like AI’s control 519 counties in America.

A newspaper, Omaha World telegram. So when people finally document it, get the book, the vote scam book. Give it to your friends. Get the video. Have amway parties, you know, get 100 people in your house and show it to them. When people start to get mad, and they’re getting mad all over the country, Barnes and Noble selling books by the ton now, because people are really going into their Barnes and noble store and saying, hey, I want the book. And Barnes and Noble in the beginning wouldn’t sell it, but now they are. They’re forcing them to carry it.

Yeah, Jim, we’re out of time. Wow. Thank you. I just really want to thank you for all of us out there listening tonight as well. It’s been fascinating.
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