Summary
➡ The text discusses the idea of people being misled by those who claim to have higher knowledge or secret wisdom, such as aliens or ancient civilizations. It criticizes the idea of putting faith in individuals like Elon Musk, who are seen as geniuses, and suggests that this can lead to the privatization of important sectors of the economy. The text also discusses the concept of evil as imitation, suggesting that those who are evil do not create, but rather imitate and create appearances to fool others. Finally, it emphasizes the importance of independent creators and critical thinking to discern the true motivations of those in power.
➡ This text discusses the power of music and art to change our moods and perceptions. It explores the idea that artists are imitators, creating images based on their understanding of reality. The text also delves into the manipulation of public opinion for political goals, and the existence of secret messages in works of art and literature. Finally, it touches on the changing landscape of Hollywood and the rise of independent film studios.
➡ This text discusses the importance of culture and art in shaping society, referencing historical figures like Plato, Homer, and Dante. It also promotes a comic about the Illuminati, encouraging readers to learn about the secret society’s history. The comic is available in both digital and physical formats, with discounts for early bird buyers. The text ends with an invitation to join the Illuminati street team or the Illuminati Yacht Club.
➡ The text discusses the history of technology and its perception, starting from Wolfgang von Kemplin’s voice synthesizer in the 1760s to Elon Musk’s current projects. It highlights the concept of “Mechanical Turk,” a chess-playing automaton that was actually controlled by a person, as an analogy for how companies present advanced technology that may not be as innovative as it seems. The text also discusses the influence of power and perception, the potential for a technology bubble, and the importance of genuine scientific education. It ends by discussing the manipulation of public perception and the potential dangers of placing too much faith in technology and those who control it.
➡ The text discusses various topics, including the influence of occult and esoteric ideas on society, the role of technology and space exploration, and the impact of billionaires like Elon Musk. It suggests that these figures and their projects, such as colonizing Mars, may not be as beneficial or efficient as they seem. The text also touches on the power of symbolism and the manipulation of public opinion through imagery and narratives.
➡ The video is a live stream featuring David Goslin, a Paranoid American, where they discuss their Illuminati comic and fan art they’ve received. They also mention reaching a funding goal of 33,000, which unlocks extra rewards for VIP box holders. The hosts read out names of supporters and discuss future plans, including a ‘dofi’ album. David Goslin also talks about his work on Age of Muses and his upcoming dialogues based on classical themes.
➡ The text discusses the power of influential figures, like magicians and sorcerers, in shaping society and leading people through crises. It also touches on the impact of the internet and social media, which have allowed people to share their own perspectives and challenge established views. However, the author warns of the dangers of misinformation and manipulation, particularly through popular platforms like podcasts. The text ends with a call for independent thought and action, and a critique of modern society’s loss of deeper meaning and spirituality.
➡ The text discusses the idea that science and faith are not mutually exclusive, and that modern advancements in science and technology are a form of ‘magic’. It suggests that there is a push to move away from traditional Western values and towards a more mystical approach, which the author views as detrimental. The author also discusses the resurgence of interest in the Bible and Christianity, and warns against falling into conspiracy theories and misinformation. The text ends with a call to rediscover and uphold Western traditions and values.
➡ The text discusses various conspiracy theories and societal observations, touching on topics like secret societies, intelligence agencies, and their influence on world events. It also delves into the role of celebrities and their potential manipulation by these entities. The text further explores the impact of memes and countercultures, particularly among younger generations, and suggests that these movements may be orchestrated by powerful groups to channel youth discontent.
➡ The text discusses the influence of powerful figures and their families on the hippie movement and anti-war sentiments in the 1960s. It suggests that these figures, despite their conservative views, shaped the culture and direction of these movements. The text also explores the connections between music, culture, and social engineering, using examples like the Juggalo movement and the Grateful Dead. Lastly, it delves into the concept of mind control and the manipulation of memory, suggesting that these techniques have been used in various social and cultural experiments.
➡ The text discusses different types of people and their roles in society, as described by Plato. It talks about the tyrant, the democratic man, the oligarch, the timocratic man, the aristocratic man, and the philosopher king. The text also discusses the role of art and poetry in society, and how they can influence people’s perceptions and emotions. It ends by emphasizing the importance of seeking truth and shattering illusions.
Transcript
But we are here with David. What is going on? David, it’s great to see you. Thanks for having me. Donut. What’s up, guys? I got you right in the middle. Like a sandwich, like a Oreo. We are in interesting times. Yes. And we did a podcast over on the Patreon that I’ll release next week, but it was right when Trump got elected, I think, and we were going to be talking about the Dark Maga. What, what’s your thoughts right now with all that? And kind of tell the audience, if y’all haven’t seen the video that we did on the Luciferian cults, the Mithra, going back to Mithra, connected to the Esalen Institutes and the article you wrote.
Everybody gotta go check out that video. It’s. It’s nicely edited and all that. But yeah, maybe introduce yourself and what, what we’re going to be talking about a little bit as well. What’s on your mind? Yes, I’m a poet, writer, researcher, translator, and my main sub stack is Age of Muses, where we cover a lot of culture, do historical deep dives, but also focus on original creative work. Like over there we have like a short story, the Last man of K. We have a Journal of Arts and Letters, New Liar magazine, which I have over here, and we’re going on our sixth issue.
So, yeah, we’re really focused on putting out good, real culture, high culture, we could call it classical culture. What does that look like today? Timeless culture. You know, because our. We all agreed, I think, that the culture has sort of declined. And at the same time that can be. There’s sort of a recognition that things need to change so people are open to new ideas. So I think we’re in one of those very interesting times where there is an openness. But that’s also when the, the magicians, right, the image makers can always strike and try to offer up something that will kind of throw people off the path and just entrap them in something new that’s really just old, right? But it’s just repackaged as new.
And it’s really just about appearances, you know. So when I think Dark Maga, we’re really talking about the same kind of the. The very long tradition of the. You could say the dark magicians, the dark sorcerers who know how to manipulate and formulate images to elicit the right feelings and get people to emote with certain things. That may be good, but there’s something. You have to go beneath the surface of that image to really see what it’s about. You know, like Elon, for example. I have this quote here. I saw accelerating starship development to build the Martian Technocracy.
So Elon’s family, you know, they had. They were involved in this whole Technocracy Inc. Government idea in Canada. Even my friend Matthew Eric has done a great deep dive on Elon. Musk is the Tesla 2.0, where Elon is really just a front for this kind of new technocratic overhaul of the, you know, you could say the WOKE system or the left sort of Borg cube thing, where everybody’s kind of saying the same thing and being assimilated, where it’s really creepy and they’re all just talking about diversity and equality. And this is like the flip side of the dialectic, right? Where if you look at Musk or Peter Thiel, who’s much more ideological and more of a philosopher, it’s really the idea that democracy has failed, right? The idea that everybody’s ideas are just as good as everyone else’s is false.
And so you need a new class of experts, of people of excellence who will be able to govern and sort of take society out of the crisis. But it’s a lot of the. They’re giving you false solutions, right? Like one of the interesting ones with the whole technocracy thing idea, Peter Thiel has supported this idea of a network state. So it’s. You’ll have, like, bitcoin cities. You have a lot of individual cities and societies that are part of, you could say the usa, but they’re all quite independent and doing their own thing, at least at the surface.
But there’s really. This goes back to the idea of cybernetics and cybernetic governance, where you have maximum centralized control through maximum decentralization. So the left hand and the right hand, everything seems to be doing something different. But part of how they control is that because everything is so atomized, you have multiple financial systems and segregated Economies like Silicon Valley. Right. It’s kind of like its own country kind of thing. And so just imagine that, but times 100. And you throw in some space stuff. We’re going to build a Martian colony. And that’s part of mankind’s self actualization and reaching new, higher levels of consciousness.
These are like theosophical themes, you know, of ascendance and transcendence. So these ideas can be good, right? In the sense of. Yeah, space exploration, science and all that. But then you have like. Have you guys ever seen the movie Elysium? No, but shout out to Matt Ehret though, for sure if he’s watching. Yeah, like Elysium is, is a cool movie because it’s. Man has gone into space. Earth is like the Hunger Games, sort of, you know, destroyed post industrial civilization. And then you have all the rich people who are in this nice big floating spaceship, orbiting spaceship.
You know, you got cancer, okay. You just jump in the machine, you’re cured in like five minutes. So it’s a very Wellsian idea where mankind is basically split up into like two different races, two different civilizations, two different classes of human beings. And you have all the transhumanist themes. You got the equivalent of neuralink. So then you have that. Right. So can we distinguish between the two? You know, a truly scientific civilization that sort of keys off the best of the Western intellectual, scientific and cultural traditions and this weird transhumanist, technocratic, theosophist infused worldview of governance.
Yeah, and even Peter Thiel, his capital myth role. Right. Sounds a lot like Mithra. Yeah, the other one’s Palantir. And our last video, we were going over how important Mithra cults are. I mean, this is where the skull and bone symbolism comes from. This Peter Till guy is who created bitcoin, in my opinion, with Elon. Elon seems to be just one of the images of the image maker, if that’s a good way to put it, how you were talking about it. But on these top levels, talking to a lot of my friends in the crypto space because we’re seeing like bitcoin and crypto skyrocket.
And this is all connected to AI. This is all connected to autonomous vehicles and the new, like where we’re heading and all the smart cities. Peter Till is like an arm of the military and that’s what Gotham is. That’s what Paler is. They’re. They’re running these AI algorithms on everybody. Elon purchasing X purchasing Twitter. It manipulates everyone emotionally through the images it shows us in our feed which is planned out weeks and weeks ahead of time. We’ve been studied like a petri dish on such a high level. And when the whole world was locked down, then they open it back up and then they introduced the chat GPT which is not the model that they’re using.
We’re using a different chat GPT. We can’t even get a full Rothschild’s name in chat GPT. If we try to ask, ask it what is the full Rothschild name. But on these high levels, these guys, they’re doing wild like crazy, like partying. They’re, they’re going back to these Elysinian mystery cults. Like we think that they’re just playing video games and called Diablo and, and all that, but really they’re, they’re doing some like, they’re partying, they’re doing. They, they getting down and funky. They’re, they’re having like pretty much. I don’t even want to say it, say it on camera.
But they’re doing I guess same sex attracted orgies. I guess that’s a good way to put it. They’re doing wild. Wild. Wild. Yeah. Well, these are, these are, I mean last time I think we talked about like Satanism. These are cults of power, right? And it’s all about. So. And cults of power, they have access to secret knowledge, right? They have access to the mysteries, right? These were the ancient. This was the idea of the ancient mystery cults, right? Whether the Gnostics, the Mithra cults, which were all Neoplatonism was kind of floating around everywhere. And so the idea was that you could have a sort of.
It was about experiential knowledge and sort of going through the hierarchy hierarchies of being. This is an idea of Plotinus where they take real ideas and they sort of pervert them. Always kind of giving them an occult sort of spin where instead of it being intelligible and yes, man, the man’s mind, the microcosm and the macrocosm, the universe are coherent. Man has an ability to sort of investigate the principles governing the universe and that’s how he’s able to make discoveries. That’s how he’s able to develop technologies and stuff. Science, uplift the standard of living, right? Take everybody out of serfdom.
So you have that, but then you have an idea of accessing this kind of higher gnosis where like today it’s very popular aliens, right? Whether it’s gnosis from aliens or the secret wisdom of ancient civilizations or its transcendence, technological transcendence all of it is saying. It’s like it’s presenting you. That’s the end. The end is this self actualization, this manifesting of consciousness. These are all theosophical ideas. And they’re, in a sense, they’re very different from say, the traditional Judeo, Christian or Western paradigm, where the idea is every individual is in the image of God and has a divine spark.
But at the same time, you know, as the psalm I think 43 reminds us, put not your faith in princes or in the Son of man. The Gnostics are kind of the opposite, right? You could. You put your faith in an experience, in a person, right? In a magician, in a king, and they’re going to save you, right? They have access to the higher knowledge of the gods. Elon Musk’s a genius, right? You hear this all the time. He’s just. He’s such a genius. Just blows all our minds, right? So we should just listen to him when he’s talking about privatizing the entire defense and space sectors of the economy, where they’re going to have even less oversight and be in the hands of these elite groups than if they were government institutions.
And of course, this is where people get upset because it’s like, yeah, but the government’s corrupt and da, da, da. But what we’re saying is there’s a dialectic there, right? They’re sort of playing on the disappointments of people and not knowing how our system got corrupt in the first place. And then they’re giving you a solution, right? They’re creating the problem and then they’re giving the solution, right? Covid was bad. People lost faith in the government, understandably so. But now it’s like you don’t trust the government for anything. So we should privatize everything and put it under the direction of, like, the Ma Pelering Society.
Is that. Is that really better? Is that really different than Wall street and the occult banking syndicate running the economies in society? Wow. Yeah. And then you got Tucker Carlson getting the demon attacks, which I think his alien story wasn’t working, so he switched it for his audience. And yeah, that. That’s wild. So I got all your links down below, David. Everybody make sure to go subscribe to David’s Twitter and substack. I learned so much from you, from Matt, Cynthia, and you were recently on. She’s becoming like my favorite podcast right now on Courtney Turner’s podcast, Plato vs Aristotle.
And you brought up something really interesting as Paranoid American. And I have been working on this comic book where we’re building something, writing something. It takes, like, so much effort and in creating something. And then once we start making moves and creating something, then all these socialists come out of the woodworks and start just, like, getting mad and that, that you’re making something. And I, and the, I, I, I’m calling them socialist just because I know it pisses them off. But I, I think that they actually are, though, like, they’re thinking because they’re, they don’t think of, like, creating.
Like, there’s this one. It’s also, it’s like, this isn’t from the state. The state didn’t assign this to me. What is this? How, like, what authority do you have to produce something? You’re not the state. That’s, I think, what’s going on, like, deep, deep down in the reptilian brain. Right? Yeah, and, but you said something that kind of. It, it was really helpful because I heard it and it got me to rise above the haters and keep on creating and keep on pushing. And you, you’re just bringing up this concept of evil and evil can’t create.
Right? Evil imitates this guy that was dissing me. He steals all my content. I’ve even had people, like, come up to me because the guy can’t create. So when you were talking about that on this podcast, I just want to let you know that your words, like, motivated me to keep on pushing. So thank you. Maybe you could talk about that if you even remember saying that. Yeah, no, and that definitely it’s. And yeah, it’s, it’s hard to. Being an independent creator is very challenging. And like, a lot of things that I thought, yeah, I’m going to do.
This is going to just take me a couple of days or a couple of weeks. Fast forward a couple of years and, you know, everything’s now starting to come together. We have all sorts of infrastructure, publications, recordings, regular new content, and, like, a growing pool of very talented writers. But it all takes a lot of time. And evil, I mean, we’ve talked about this. We talked about that in the last podcast with Courtney. And I’m doing a series of deep dives that are coming out very shortly. The first one is almost done. Magic, myth, and archaic mind control.
And it’s going to be the secrets of the Renaissance. And it’s all about how, you know, the magicians. This, the legacy of evil is imitation. They’re not really creating anything. And in the same way, the magician is not so much about having genuine knowledge as being able to imitate and create appearances, right? To know little tricks to fool people into thinking that you have access to a higher level of knowledge, which once the person believes that, right. Once they believe the shaman, the medicine man, that’s when they’re ready to change, to accept new ideas. I mean, this is the Manson cult, right? These are the MK Ulstra experiments in cult creation, trauma, mind control and all that.
You first have to. You have to get the person’s unwavering fate. And how do you do that? Well, you have to do things that seem like nobody could do that without having some kind of secret knowledge or talent. So the occultists will study science, right? In the Renaissance, they studied mathematics, they studied all these things. They wanted to know what the latest technological breakthroughs could be, but it’s just so that they could assimilate it and, you know, advance the interests of the empire, right? Advance the interests of the oligarchy. So you have to stay on top of science.
You have to stay on top of the creative world because you always have to be there to introduce an imitation or a substitution when there is something of genuine quality or originality. And you flood the field with this stuff, right? You flood the field with imitations. And then the average person, right, Everyday people know who has time to really do a deep dive and go down all the rabbit holes. That’s why shows like this are important, right? It’s important. We do have a lot of different independent creators that are extra savvy and creative so that they can have their independent operations and get real ideas out.
Always aware, right? Appreciating that. Yeah. The bad guys, all they can do really is imitate. And they put so much work into these, creating these appearances. I don’t, I don’t think Elon Musk really runs anything. And that’s now after reading Matthew Eric’s long series of essays. He. He’s. He. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s only playing Diablo. Honestly. These are the kind of. It’s kind of like Newton as well. They create these personalities and he’s just sharing memes all the time. Elon Musk, right? They’re. They’re using mean magic. He loves to be in the limelight. People have noticed that.
He’s always. He’s with. With the Trump circles. You know, there’s been jokes even that Elon Musk is like, he keeps bothering the campaign. Like he keeps photo. He’s photobombing and stuff because they need to make it look like this is all theirs and they are trying to infiltrate it. And clearly there are all sorts of moles and stuff. And they’re trying to sell the Trump administration on this Argentinian, Malay libertarian model where we’re just going to like completely erase most of the government and put it into again, private institutions, the hands of the same occult banking syndicate, military industrial complex.
And they’re just, most of their time is going into creating these appearances that will get people to go along with it and not make those crucial discernments, you know, about what is really motivating these people. They’re saying the right things, right? The magician, they know how to say the right things. But, yeah, if we have to go beyond the general rhetoric and we can look at their actions and it’s. Yeah, it’s a very different story. Yeah, there’s a bunch of occult stuff going on. Paranoid, what’s up? I think Paranoid was gonna say something. Well, yeah, a couple things that came out.
I don’t want to stop the, the flow here, but right when we first started talking, David, you mentioned the cybernetics and this. I mean, if you keep rewinding the dial backwards on cybernetics, you come up with a guy named Wolfgang von Kemplin, I think, and he created a bunch of different things that were very innovative time. One of them was a voice synthesizer where you could just blow air through this diaphragm and then change the shape of it. And he was able to reconstruct human voice. But this was in the 1760s. And this is something that a lot of people think only started maybe with Eliza or in like the 50s or through the 70s.
But he also had something going to what you were just talking about putting all of this effort and resources into the impressions. And man, I just. Because I randomly saw the movie the Substitute again recently, one of my favorite movies of all time. But in the movie they keep repeating this phrase that power perceived as power achieved. And that’s sort of what this whole premise is with what Elon Musk is doing. But that same guy, Kemplin, that made the, the voice automation machine, he also made something called a Mechanical Turk. And the mechanical turk was this little.
It was supposed to be a chess playing automaton from the 1700s. That could be all these people. It even played Napoleon Bonaparte. It played Benjamin Franklin. It beat all these people. But what they found out later was just a person sitting inside of the booth making it look like the robot was moving around. But so much effort was put into making this thing look like it was this next level technology. This is sort of an analogy to what I See Elon doing a lot of the time where he’s just like, he’s hire someone in a little box to go through the motions and make it look like what he’s working on is this next level.
But there is that next level. And just like Donut was saying that we have this consumer grade chat GPT that gets a, you know, a million filters on it. That concept of where chat GBT came from, these neural networks, these were established in the 1940s in these cybernetic conferences by the, the Macy Foundation. And in those initial 1940s cybernetic conferences, they already had technology that could solve mazes like a rat running through maze, but it was all technology based. And this again is just showing that almost 100 years ago, like at least a good 80 years ago, plus they already had these neural networks, they already had this level of technology.
But again it’s the perception like there’s so many flaws in it with this solid state intelligence. But all these companies are kind of glossing over a lot of that and they’re just presenting these mechanical turks over and over. Except the mechanical turks we’re seeing now are far more complicated than a little dude sitting inside of a box. So you can’t really pick it apart and see that. But I, but it does seem that there’s going to be a bubble at some point when someone’s like, wait a minute, this isn’t what you’ve all been selling us. That it has been, and that kind of is Elon Musk’s role is that he ushers in this new technology for maybe a crowd that originally might not have been as receptive to it, but now that he’s seen as like a right hand man of, you know, the guy that, that has all this other idolatry going on now, he can slip in some of these what I would argue were cybernetic conference objectives that were established 80 years ago.
Yeah, and that’s a brilliant example, right, the mechanical Turk. That’s, that, that’s a great metaphor for everything we’re kind of seeing here. Yeah, the whole AI thing, which again is, is more of this same kind of gnostic stuff where there’s really the notion that human beings were, our brains are limited and the robots are just more intelligent than us and we sort of have to yield to the, the, the wisdom, the oracular wisdom of the cyborg, you know what I mean? Like that’s what’s going to decide what the ideal society is, the ideal governance structures and it’s, you know, people Go again with the libertarian stuff.
You could say, okay, they’re not telling us how to like run our families and da, da, da. But if they totally take over the systems of power, economic production and they sort of, if you just have economic devastation, well, people are not really going to have much power anyways. So if we’re just putting our faith in these technocrats and their wacky gnostic ideas of governance, then you’re gonna get the same thing, if not worse, you know. So yeah, this mechanical turk, that’s, that’s, that’s brilliant. Yeah, I’m familiar with that. It’s always that going back to even the myth of, of Daedalus and Icarus, you know, he could make the statues move or I, he had the wooden pigeon.
Architis was a real, like genuine, real deal mathematician geometry. But the point is that. So these mechanical tricks, right, the magicians love that, the occultists love that because it just sort of encapsulates their whole outlook of how do you master these sort of, these tricks and mathematical knowledge and all that to sort of manipulate people’s perception. So they, but they, but as long as science doesn’t get out to the general population, as long as a real classical education and scientific education is not sort of instituted where then you have kind of unbounded creativity, you can’t really control the environment if people are allowed to learn and work together in the natural way that creativity happens, scientists are in dialogue, people are exchanging ideas and you don’t have this super complex cybernetic system of peer review.
For example, I was speaking with Matthew Crawford just a few days ago on his podcast and he gave the example of his wife who’s in a very specialized field of science, where for each one of these subfields there’s maybe 10 people there, there are the experts on that. And he was just saying if, if the occult banking syndicate, these types of networks, if they just own the guy who is the peer review for that specialized subsection, they have so much leverage because then they can decide what ideas are allowed to, to advance and which ones are suppressed, or they can promote false ideas or incorrect notions that will just lead people off the path.
So that’s, that’s always there, like that’s really how they work. But it just shows that they really just, they rely on appearances. And that’s why this higher level of discernment and appreciating this legacy of the magicians and the imitators, I mean, it’s hard to unsee, right? Once you see all the stuff that they’re doing dark gothic maga as he talks about, you know, as if like the current Borg cube, left woke board cube thing. As if a sort of medieval technocracy where people are afraid of getting bitten by a ghost, like Tucker Carlson, right. Where it’s just mass superstition.
As if that’s any better, right? If you go to bed and you’re afraid you’re gonna be attacked by a ghost and you just. You have a vigorously spanked. It was kind of genius for him to do this, though, because it allows Tucker Carlson to court an entirely new demographic with very little investment. He can do one single interview, make this one wild claim that kind of comes out of left field in a way and go back to normal life. And now he can have this one thing that he just said in passing appeal to a larger group than he started out with before this happened.
And. And he’s got an entire life of other credentials that sort of work against this type of claim. So he. He can sort of have his cake and eat it too, in a way. He can. He can court any audiences he wants at this point because of the amount of reach that he has and the different people that he couldn’t collaborate with and have these interviews. You can kind of custom. Just the same way that Hillary Clinton was like, oh, yeah, you know, I’ve keep hot sauce in my bag all the time. She only had to say that one time on.
On one audience. It didn’t work in her favor because it was so disingenuous. But if you can pull it off and make it seem genuine to the audience that you’re catering to, then this is. Why not cast that net. Yeah. And you can see, though, what they’re. They’re like. Because. Right, there’s an idea of emphasizing sort of the importance of spirituality, right. And faith. Again, put not your faith in princes or the son of man, that people have to believe in something beyond just, you know, worldly power and, you know, achievements. But then. So people will agree with that.
That’s the first part, that of the induction, right. You say something that you’ve introduced a new image, right? You’ve introduced demons and supernatural forces. Then you say something that everybody agrees with, that. Yeah. We shouldn’t just sort of put our faith in politicians or, you know, a good economy, but. And then they say something at the end. There’s a new suggestion, though, and in this case, it’s. It’s demonology, right? It’s literally theosophist demonology that’s meant to break people’s brains, Right. We were talking about that last time Donut, where the, the mystery schools, the way they operate, like we said with Manson as well.
Same thing about transcendence. And you know, he read his Bible was Stranger in a Strange Land by Highland, who was a high level military intelligence operative and famous fiction writer, one of the original sci fi writers. And he has this whole Martian civilization idea. But then the second half of the book, it’s a sex cult, right? And it’s all about the. All the members of the cult, right? They’re having sex with the guy and they’re all they can. They can achieve transcendence and they’re getting superpowers, right? They have superpowers. So that was Charles Manson’s book that he read.
Yeah. The members of the Manson family thought that they were going to develop superpowers and achieve this higher transcendence as they embraced all the, the peace and love stuff, right. They had water sharing rituals which was taken from that book because water was very rare. So water was the thing that people would share and that was a sacred. Right. And so you do that, you introduce something esoteric and once you, once people swallow that, you have them. Right? Because now they’ve allowed something that is not intelligible that they can’t sort of reconstruct in their mind as a discovery that they can sort of prove or communicate to someone else.
And you start to organize the whole tribe around that. You break their brains because now why wouldn’t they believe you for other things as well? They’ve, they’re invested now. I was seriously gonna put the Charles Manson tattoo on his head, the ax. And I just. It didn’t look good, so I took it off. So that’s. That’s funny. And also Project Mars, this book was written by Werner von Braun way before Elon was even born, about a group named Elon to colonize Mars. As if these are just characters and I know it’s connected to this guy. Paranoid.
You told me to bring this up. Oh, we were gonna mention this last night and we went. We only went off the rails in a good way. The, the connection here was that that Warner von Braun book made a lot of references to canals on Mars and all these existing structures on Mars. And all of those claims came directly from that Lavelle guy who’s also the one that’s attributed to discovering in very thick quotes here the. The planet Pluto or you know, it it considered as just being another ninth planet. He’s got his own crater on the moon.
I believe this Guy’s got a lot of other really interesting connections that. Oh, the, the Kappa. That’s it, the Delta Kappa Epsilon. So this is another one of the secret societies at Yale, maybe less secret. So this is just in a very exclusive fraternity that also includes a lot of the Bush family, a lot of other political intelligence dynasties. So an I guess another thing to another feather in that cap that David was mentioning is that the establishment, especially in academia, outside of just regular peer review, but in academia they can also determine what types of information should be put forth.
For example, having canals on the, on Mars and being able to colonize Mars. These are things that have been set in motion since before the 1900s. Yeah. And I mean again I’m, I’m very pro sort of science. Space exploration and scientific revolutions, Renaissance fusion development, you know, matter, antimatter research, all these things fascinate me and sort of overthrowing the current standard models which were essentially established by these occult sort of priestly classes of magicians who sort of double as scientists. But they’re doing what we’re, we’re describing here. Right. They want to understand the technical knowledge, the mathematics, but for very different reasons.
So yeah, I mean, okay, we’ll have a space faring society. You have space tourism, you can go on Jeff Bezos’s rocket ship, you go into the atmosphere or you see the atmosphere, then you go back down and you go work in the factory. Okay, great. You know what I mean? You still have this medieval technocratic serf society. So that’s, that’s not, that’s not the move. Right. So especially if it’s in the hands of the military industrial complex where there is no government space agency or even. Yeah, the Matt had shared a. Something in telegram. As if the private sector, for example, was the, is more efficient.
Was it more efficient than NASA, you know, is Elon Musk’s Starlink and all these. What’s his space? SpaceX. Space? Yeah, SpaceX. Sacks SpaceX. It’s had tons of things blow up. It’s, it’s had tons of problems. Is it really more efficient than NASA? When NASA had the funding and you had this sort of national mission and you know, little children, you know. What do you want to be when you grow up, Billy? I want to be an astronaut, you know, I want to be an engineer. There was an optimism, there was an overwhelming optimism that man could actually sort of, I don’t want to say conquer, but conquer.
Right. The universe in a good sense. And you know, he was not just hostage to the elements to gaia right to Mother Nature, which is the older pagan sort of great Mother Earth mother cults. I mean, this is, this is what the Emperor Julian the apostate was trying to bring back. You know, he was trained by Neoplatonist philosophers who were the first Theosophists. If you even go on the theosophist wiki, they’ll tell you like the Neoplatonists were essentially theosophists. They had all these ideas of spiritual, spiritual transcendence, the ascendance of the soul and all that. And so you got the same thing with the.
This more just technocratic Martian technocracy idea. But yeah, we. Some of these things are. Some of these myths are easy to sort of poke holes in. Like NASA worked fine until you pulled the funding. Why they pulled the funding because the occult banking syndicate did not like the Tavistock Institute, did not like. They had a report. They didn’t like the amount of engineers that this sort of mission orientation economy was producing. Right. It wasn’t just, you know, let’s rely on venture capital firms to fund energy grids, nuclear power plants. You had a 25 to 50 year plan.
And with the plan and the funding then you would. That would spill over into the civilian economy. Right. That would, that would stimulate all of the private sectors to invest in their R and D and to invest in their human resources and all that. You had a vision, right. Where there is no vision, the people perish. Right. That’s. So if you get rid of that and you’re placing this weird technocratic sort of libertarian idea where there is no mission orientation, really, they’re just using these images of, you know, yeah, we’re all going to go to space and transcend, but it’s really just Matt Damon’s Elysium where it’s like Hunger Games and, you know, we cured cancer in space.
Right, Right. And also Elon Musk and these billionaires. I never, I didn’t get to read this article, but I’m definitely going to. They’re all into the social credit scoring system, the UBI Universal Basic Income. They’re all into it. They’re all doing all the same things. They’re all got rockets and they’re all into all this, the same stuff. And this meme magic is something that I’ve been covering for a while on how these images and symbols do get into the minds of the masses. And you were saying something about the peer review and the algorithm is doing a peer review, in my opinion, through the comments section.
So right when Elon started jumping up and down. I forgot. Like, I just look at symbols, so I wasn’t emotionally attached to the story. I understand it’s a pretty big victory for the United States, you know, getting, like, Trump in and all that. Like, so I was detached from that because I’m just looking at, you know, this guy’s gonna put a microchip in everyone’s brain. Like, so I’m not thinking about the. The Hopium that America has gotten, which is a good thing, that they got that, their hope in the Hopium. But I forgot about that. And then the crowd was so mad that I attacked Elon.
And this is like the peer review for the algorithm. I feel like in the comment section, it’s like the crowd, like, people just got so upset that he’s doing decent. This is a symbol that he’s doing. Even though that face is nuts, that face is nuts. These are symbols. Just like all these rockets are phallics. And the virgin record guy, his virgin is like. It’s all symbolism at the end of the day. And it’s all connected to some alien stuff like the. The railings. Like, there’s a. A lot definitely going on. And we crashed through over a thousand people tuning in.
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Some people were saying that this was AI I don’t understand. The AI is looking real. AI can’t look that good yet, though. Yeah, no, this is actually Joe Biden and the Illuminati comic. We pass through the 33, 000. So we unlock the secrets that. We unlock the tier right here. 33, 000. So everyone gets an extra sticker sheet if you get the VIP box. So thank you so much. And those links are down below. I’ll. I’ll pin that for the Illuminati comic and Paranoid. Do we have to read anybody’s names or anything? Yeah, we got a whole bunch from.
From between last night and tonight. So we’ll just. We’ll fire them off here. Okay. And also my cat I just brought to the vet because everyone was asking about my cat peeing on me. So we brought Chan to the vet. He got his blood work done. I spent the whole day there. So we’re not going to be giving him treats while he names off the names. We’re going to be giving them MK Ultra drugs. Cranberry juice. Give him some cranberry juice. It’ll be fun. Add some cranberry juice as well. All right, here. Here are the names.
I’ll let you hype them up. I’ll. I’ll just. I’ll just underhand them and then you can knock them out of the park. Okay. Linda Holt. Linda. Richard Duckett joined the Illuminati Yacht Club. Oh, you joined the Secrets. You got access. The Secrets. Illuminati Yacht Club. What’s his name? Richard Duckett. Richard. Oh, Richard. Richard is a longtime Patreon member. Thank you, Richard. Jerry Germaine. Jerry. Jerry. Let’s go. Kim Hart McBride. Thank you so much for your backing. Kim Hart McBride. Bernadette O’Brien, she did an upgrade. Thank you for the upgrade. Upgrade. Bernadette upgraded the secrets given the cat.
Lsd. We got one from someone that called themselves Alex Jones. That was just an anonymous hundred dollar donation. So thank you to whoever Alex Jones was. Thank you. I’m gonna. I’m gonna decide to believe that that was the actual Alex Jones. It wasn’t. Monikerism. Shout out to Monikerism. That’s a pretty dope name. Thank you. Monikerism. Austin Schmutz. Who got the trading card combo. Thank you, Austin. Tiffany Schilling. We got like six more. Tiffany Schilling. Tiffany, Rachel. Oh, and Tiffany got the VIP VHS box, by the way. So she’s smart. She’s getting all the extra goodies that you.
Us. Oh, snap. Rachel. Vk Rachel Stacia Williams upgraded to a VIP box. A lot of upgrades. The upgrades are actually helping out just as much as like a new person signing up. Upgrade. Matthew Carl Layton got the. The color combo. Thank you, Matthew. And then seven upgraded from. They started with the Digital Deluxe and now they’re getting the trading card combo. And I’m pretty sure the more they watch this, the more they’re going to want to upgrade to the VHS box. Thank you so much for giving my cat all them drugs. And go. Upgrade. Upgrade. It really helps the kitty cat out and all that.
What’s your thoughts on all that, David? Isn’t this a crazy number one number? Oh, my goodness. We just got another sign up. Oh, yeah. Shout out to Amy Campbell, who just joined The Illuminati Yacht Club. I. I honestly feel that once people start posting all their Illuminati Yacht Club stuff, it’s going to be the real fomo. Like, people are gonna see how cool all the Illuminati Yacht Club stuff was and wish they had got it. Yeah. And also, since we unlocked the secrets of the stretch goal, we unlocked the 33k. Now the next stretch goes 47k.
Where we gonna be dropping a dofi album. Yeah. What is a dofi album? Can you explain what that is? Oh, you know, like, lo fi, how they have, like, the little kitty cats chilling, like, in the music playing and Bart Simpson’s, like, smoking and like, in the city in, like, Japan. Do you know what I’m talking about? I’ll pull it up. Yeah, no, I know. Lo Fi, girl. I think. I think actually if we do the dofi album, we should make a little dofi theme that looks like that, except it’s Donut editing a video and Chan’s on the desk.
Yeah, something like that. Something like this. It’ll be like this, but then, like, channel be on the desk and all be, like, saying manifestations. You’re going, I. I really need to see this happen now. Man, this would be amazing. Yeah, that’s what’s up. Thank you, everybody. And let’s try to make the goal tonight. Let’s get this to 34. So we could pass that Illuminati 33 number and get it to 34. I think that’d be a good goal. What can we. Where can we send people for you, David? I mean, people just check out Age of Muses.
We got a lot of. Like I said, I’ve been working on. I’ve been, like, on a research project for the last four months. So I’ve been reading a ton of stuff. And yeah, if the Age of Muses do. Substack.com All my interviews come out. Original stories. I have a new dialogue that I. I was taking. I was taking some acting voice classes with a very talented coach. So I’m redoing the recordings for the dialogues that I’ve written. The Second Snake, which is about a sec. Adam and Eve. So Adam and Eve is. Are visited by a second snake in their old age.
And he starts. There’s a dialogue. He’s asking them what they’ve learned in their old age from their fall. So revisiting classic themes in the classical tradition, where there’s something old, but there’s also something new. And it’s really a question of how to treat that Theme what would happen? And this snake isn’t the devil, he’s a different snake. And you know, he starts ask, he starts asking them all sorts of questions. And they have questions, you know, can they undo their fall, right? Can they, you know, they regret biting the apple, but was the problem really that they, they bit the apple of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil? Or in the dialogue, you know, he’s saying.
Or is it that you didn’t finish the apple because the taste was too bitter? But then why was the taste, why was the taste of wisdom so bitter for Adam and Eve? Were they ready for it? So that’s one dialogue. So I’m redoing the recording for that. That’s going to be out soon. And the other dialogue that we published in the latest issue of our new Liar magazine, which is poetry, translation, essays, is Daedalus and Icarus. So the shade of Icarus floats back up from the sea and finds his father contemplating on the edge of a cliff.
And they have a dialogue. The question being, does man always have to fly too close to the sun for, for the people not familiar. So the myth of Icarus, right, He flies. His father is the great inventor Daedalus. And he, they have to escape the labyrinth where the Minotaur is being held, the labyrinth that his father created for King Minos. And they. So Daedalus comes up with another crafty idea, a real crafty guy, and they, he makes wings and they, they are able to escape. But he warns his son, don’t fly too close to the sun.
You know, it’s, it’s just wax and feathers. It won’t hold. But of course. So as brilliant as he was, right, he’s kind of is like the archetypal magician in a sense, or inventor. He didn’t foresee, you know, there’s some. He miscalculated. And so the question is, you know, does man always have to fly too close to the sun? I think it’s a question for all of us, right, and for each of us. And so, yeah, these are some of the things coming out and that they can find in print as well. So that, that’s 10,000 words.
I spent, yeah, I spent many months working on that as I was grinding as well, taking care of the apartment building where I live. 97 apartments, bit of an open air asylum. It was more work than I bargained for when I originally took the job. So, yeah, just. We’re all hustling, right? We’re all in the independent creation world, but I think it’s very, it’s very exciting now, right? Like the, the other polemic that I’ve been throwing around is that, you know, are we in a golden age? Are we headed into a golden age in the sense that a lot of the culture war stuff and the commentary today is that, yeah, everything is so shitty.
People don’t love goodness, truth and beauty. And like with the alt, right, they have a lot of this meme magic where it’s Spartan warrior cults, right? Roman emperors, Tiberius and all these honorable emperors, these were aristocracies, they liked excellence. We are run by a tribal long house gerontocracy. And historically this kind of tribal archaic format of civilization is usually. This is where the magicians and the sorcerers kind of rise up to become sacred kings, where they challenge the kind of tribal. It’s elders, right? It’s tradition, it’s nomos, it’s the customs and the sorcerers, the magicians, the rainmakers.
They’re the ones who are able to challenge and manipulate the customs of the tribe and lead people to greatness, right? Lead the tribe out of the crisis, make, you know, maybe you have to roll the baby’s heads down the pyramid so that it starts raining again, who knows? But you gotta. We’ll be saved by these people. So, yeah, these are just some examples, some thoughts. Yeah, yeah. It’s good to see somebody also hustling and working on art, but also having responsibilities in life as well, you know, to dedicate it to. It’s just nice to keep building and you bring up the good a lot.
You’ve read a lot of these books, Plato, the Republic, these high art, high culture. I’m a little brain dead from all the Tavistock social engineering, MTV brainwashing really fried well and. Well, I just realized. Sorry, I, I had, I just, I, I mid thought I had a little brain fart there, but yeah, what I was saying about as well. So there’s all this bad stuff and we’re being hit with all this kind of meme magic. We’re going to be saved. But the real golden age, I think is that a lot of what the bad guys are doing now, right.
This sort of new, you know, reinventing themselves is, is really because the Internet did get away from them, right? Social media did as much control as they’ve been able to exert these vast complex cybernetic systems. You know, wasn’t the Internet some DARPA mind control program? Yeah, but at the same time, the view of these Luciferians is that human beings are basically just animals that can Be sort of reflex conditioned, right? They’re just Pavlovian dogs. And with the right mix of reward and punishment and the right amount of feedback loops from Hollywood, the silver screen, you can sort of project the image that you want people to internalize.
You can change their own self image and make them into your image or into their image. But it didn’t exactly happen that way, right. People started their own podcast. People started to have real conversations that was not calculated like as now in hindsight it seems so obvious, but if you have this very misanthropic view of human beings, they tend to underestimate the sort of Promethean qualities in man, right. That there is, you know, this Prometheus being the Titan who sort of stole fire from the gods of Olympus and gave it to mankind. And he was punished for that, but he had foresight.
Prometheus actually means foresight in Greek. And so he foresaw the fall or the defeat of Zeus or whatever you want to call it. And so there’s that as well, right. So how do they put that genie back in the bottle? They’re doing what they’re always, always trying to do, right? They’re sort of assimilating, right? They’re assimilating maga, the MAGA movement. They’re assimilating populism and trying to sort of steer it into this direction. But they’re doing all that because all of it has kind of gotten away from them. And you do have a new sort of international system outside the rules based order of countries that, you know, we could, we could criticize whether it’s Russia, China or Iran or all these countries.
But the reality is that like the BRICs represent much more of human civilization just in pure numbers than the sort of Atlantis board cube, the transatlantic sort of triangle of Europe, the Americas. So it’s, we’re in, I think that’s where there’s reason to have hope and optimism. And that’s why, you know, we need to be sort of going hard, right. And putting out all, you’re doing these original things, having these independent enterprises. They really, they, they don’t like that. And I’ve noticed even that a lot of podcasts, I think they’ve just infiltrated a lot of stuff.
I see podcasts where they were putting out a lot of good stuff during the pandemic. And it seems that they’ve just been kind of assimilated, right? They just, they sort of flood these things with money, right. I, I see some of them are so gross now. Like the trigonometry podcast, the. Even Germ warfare, all the. There’s so many of them that, like, they’re just full hog wild into whatever, whether it’s aliens, whether. Oh, maybe Hitler wasn’t that bad, or, like, all these things, they’re just like, where is this coming from? And that’s what. That’s what they do.
You know, that’s what the bad guys do. So you guys. Independent, not infiltrated by the Illuminati. It’s beautiful. Thank you. Yeah, I. You know, and I. I know exactly what you’re talking about. It’s like the lockdowns happen. It was important to talk about it. What I’m looking at is there’s all these new people that are leading the charge of the field I am obsessed with. Of symbolism, of conspiracy, out of nowhere, and they say they just woke up. Like, oh, you know what? 20, 20. I woke up. Sure, I was a federal agent before, but what.
You know, don’t look at that. Let’s. Let’s do this. They get millions and millions and millions of views. They get paid by an algorithm of hatred. It’s what I like to call it. So they’re incentivized to push different stories. The aliens is the biggest one. If I wanted to, I. I’d be doing real. I’d be really successful right now if I talked about aliens, told my audience to do drugs, and for them to be hateful. You mix those three together, it’s a recipe of success for the algorithm. Be hateful. Tell your audience to believe in aliens and push drugs on them, and then you’re gonna be a success.
Yeah, yeah. This is like initiating people into. How can anybody laugh at Scientology? And then it’s like, wait, you’re being initiated into an alien cult by, like, Joe Rogan and whoever else. I. I mean, I’ve seen so many weird ones. Schellenberg, or what is whatever his name is, lots of, like, groundbreaking Twitter files, and, like, here’s all the corruption behind the, you know, COVID pandemic and Pfizer and. And then he’s just running stuff on governments, hiding, you know, alien disclosure, secret documents and stuff. They really just want to break people’s brains. I think if people sort of keep that in mind, like, then you see how the old mystery cults work, and you see that’s what they really want to bring back.
At the end of the day, they hate modern Western civilization that sort of emerged out of the Renaissance, where you. You sort of had a rediscovery of classical learning. The classical world which had died out, you know, in one of the last podcasts. Yeah. With Crawford. I was, we were talking about, was talking on an optimistic note that Kate, the, the Athens of Socrates and all that. By 100, 200 A.D. i mean Athens it was dog Egypt. It’s, it’s just all infested with mystery cults, right. All these weird mystic sort of, it’s like, it’s like Daedalus’s labyrinth.
You know, they sort of lead you in, they promise you all sorts of things. Hey, we’re going to find out about the aliens and that’s how we’re going to understand these technologies that no one can really explain. Tucker Carlson doesn’t know where nuclear power comes from. He thinks the demons sort of under the sea gave it to us or something. They want that back because what they’re saying, and Carl Jung, I’m talking about this in the paper that’s coming out, Carl Jung’s a good example where they’re saying that with modern civilization, mankind lost magic. And in losing magic, he lost the meaning making.
You know, the Pueblo Indians, they have their ritual to make sure that the sun traverses across the sky. And he was talking to them and they were saying like the white man doesn’t understand, you know, what would happen if we didn’t do this eight hour sort of prayer ritual and dance. The sun would not cross the sky, you know, there would be no day. And so Jung is talking about his insights into these archaic forms of civilization which they’re the remnants are in these indigenous tribes, whether it’s in like guinea or the aboriginals of Australia. That’s what, that’s what Margaret Mead, that’s what Gregory Bateson, that’s what these MK Ultra scientists were studying because they had, these were primitive forms of civilization that they were saying, how are their belief structures formed? How do they come to their meaning making? They don’t seem bothered by the things that modern man is bothered.
Modern man is haunted, right, because he lost a sense of deeper meaning and that there’s a divine force sort of shaping everything. Hardcore superstition pretty much. And that’s not compatible with a modern industrial Western civilization. That doesn’t mean religion or faith is not compatible. I’d say quite the opposite. But they need to obscure these things on the higher, the humanist, Renaissance humanist level. The philosopher, for example, Nicholas of Cusa, makes the point that science requires a leap of faith. The idea that there’s no place for faith in the modern world is silly because science, the idea of science assumes that man can know creation.
Right. That the nature of creation is something governed by reason. It’s not arbitrary. Right. It’s not unlawful. And the fact that man can unearth the workings of the universe, never perfectly right, but always less imperfectly, means that there’s a coherence between the microcosm and the macrocosm. And if you have the kind of education that fosters that, the kind of creative and you know, intuitive sort of hypothesis formation where people make breakthroughs, the light comes on, new discoveries are made. You, you can’t control that. And so they, and their, their shtick is, well, that’s. Magic is sort of the answer, right? So be like, yeah, magic is actually again, aliens or psychedelics.
It’s more of the same. This is actually how you’ll access wisdom and, and sacred knowledge. Don’t study, don’t study classical. Don’t study the origins of Western civilization of classical civilization, of the renaissance of modern science, which dwarfs the magic of the shaman. Right? Okay. The rainmaker knows build the villages on like a hilltop because it’s, it’s, you’re going to get more favorable weather and rainfall and so you’ll have crops so you can put food in your baby’s tummy. He knows to tell the people kind of where to maybe set up shop. So they believe in him because he can, he can make rain.
But that’s, that’s nothing compared to if you have a modern, you know, nuclear powered society that can green the deserts in Africa, right. That can do irrigation. California used to be a desert, right. Much of much of the United States where there are population centers. If it wasn’t for modern irrigation, building dams, infrastructure, Lincoln, building the transcontinental railway so you could have interconnectivity of the inland continent. You could never have civilization if you had these mystery cults, none of this stuff would have happened. So the real magic is not gone, I would argue. And I think that’s where we can appreciate the deeper evil of these kinds of magicians.
Like that’s really what they want to get rid of at the end of the day. That’s why they have cybernetics. That’s why they have psychedelic revival of lucinian mystery cults. It’s to get rid of this tradition. And so that’s exciting because we can rediscover that tradition. I mean, that’s what, that’s what the deep dives that we put out at age of Muses is concerned with. That’s what stuff that Matt Ehret does over rising tides and there’s A lot of again like ourselves, independent creators that you know, were. Now is a good time to get in touch with the best of the.
The western tradition which these magicians always kind of need to obscure with aliens and drugs and sex at the end of the day. And there’s been this big push towards the west through bankers, through different people, Henry Loose, all these different people, JP Morgan, propagandists to get us away from western man. It seemed to, to collapse it. And also the doy stoievsky Christianity that the power elites like the Kissingers knew about where the world was going to go into this a certain way because of the disenchantment of the Faustian bargain. And they would also want to know about the secrets.
They want, they would also want to. Secrets unlock the secrets. Somebody even wrote secrets. But right now Bible sales are like at next level set sales because the Illuminati power structure knows this is where people are going. And this is, this is interesting. They took, they took it down. But it says right here Bible sales booming. Yes, they took down the image. I, I gotta pull, I could pull it up though. But they were showing a Bible with the knights with the cross of Jerusalem, Knights Templar, you know. So the Drudge Report be showing the, these symbols here.
I’ll pull it up real quick because I, I always screenshot stuff like right away. Yeah because they, they changed, they change it. So this was what they posted and they deleted it. Bible sells booming. But then you, you see the, the, the Knights Templar cross there. They. So they choose that one. And I’m sure the Swiss army knife is probably a symbol too. Who knows. But with Tucker saying that he’s being attacked by demons, they rub in his back and all that. They’re, they’re showing these symbols. They know the psychology of people. I don’t even know where I was gonna, I was going with that.
But here’s some of the images that I was, I was gonna put this on Elon’s head but. Well, I talked about sort of there is a sort of a burgence or the question of faith hasn’t gone away in religion. And again here you can see that the occultists are sort of capitalizing on that. Whether it’s with the Tucker sort of demonology, they’re trying to appeal to the Judeo Christian sort of currents and corral them into again. Let’s not forget that the Templars were like a Gnostic cult. Right? They were, they were. And they were burned. A lot of them were burned at the stake because it was discovered that they were, you know, doing black magic rituals and doing all the usual things that, you know, you mentioned before that you didn’t want to mention on the Internet.
And so the question is, is it the Christian. Sorry, no, no, that’s all. That’s what Peter Till would be doing. He’d be doing some. So is it. Is it the Christianity of the Sermon on the Mount? You know, blessed are the poor and spirit, blessed are the meek, you know, blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy. Blessed are the peacemakers, they shall be called the children of God. Or is it this Templar crusading crazy, right, where you have again the meme magic? It’s all about excellence and like strong men, Spartan warrior cults. And mankind sort of lost its appetite.
Christianity lost its appetite for war. And now everybody is. Is just sort of shitty because we’re afraid to fight for our values and our traditions. They want to get, I mean, as Matt put it, you know, I think the Dark Maga, he was saying, it’s like they don’t want you to just have the gun, but they want you to like finally pull the trigger, right? They want to get people to become sort of violent and aggressive over these things rather than remembering. And so you get the Jew stuff, right? Oh, it’s the Jewish conspiracies, right. As I just like to point out, I mean, if you go back to the time of Christ, like who was running Rome is.
Tiberius is the emperor. Tiberius was in his baths with little boys and, you know, he’d molest them and then he would drown them. Right. This is Nick Bryant who did the. The Thompson cover up. The, you know, the UFO or the, the weird. The finders groups. Yeah, the Franklin scandal. Yeah. So, yeah, he’s just making the point that these kind of these weird ritualistic sex cults and like child trafficking things, you could go back if you go to Rome. And the heart of the power structures and the many cults, right, the priesthoods that were controlling all the mystery cults, you find the same thing.
So that was the nerve center. That’s. It was not like the outskirts of Palestine, right? And you know, the Jews and all that, that’s not what was running the empire. And so that thing is still in power. You know, that old mystery cult, satanic thing is the occult banking syndicate, right? So people are getting fooled if they go down these rabbit holes with Candace Owens, right? Another big one. We can mention her, but she’s married into a vampire culture. Her husband is this weird, you know, hereditary, the son of A hereditary lord. So he’ll be a lord.
And it’s the Anglo American establishment, right. And they’re the ones who originally. Richard Pope. Right. The scholar. He’s shared his stuff on how British intelligence sort of created the whole Jew sort of paranoia frenzy that would be used in Nazi Germany. Okay. And they’re doing it again. So if you look into the theosophist circles and all. Alice Bailey, she wanted to eliminate all Africans and Orthodox Jews, among others. Right. She thought they should all be wiped off the earth. These are the real Satanists. So, yeah, people are really getting taken for a ride if they, you know, they’re.
They’re swallowing all this stuff that Candace and. And Tucker and all these guys are hawking along with the aliens and the demonology. And then they’re like, yeah, I found my. My faith. That’s crazy. That’s for real. Like, it’s. It’s nuts. And like, the House of Lords. Like, I just. The more I look into this where husband is that. Then you got David Lloyd George. And I remember this guy does not. Like, I did this deep dive with Cynthia. I. She did the deep dive. I just interviewed her, you know, but he’s part of that as well.
Like it. So it gets freaky, for sure. Yeah. This is. This is the upper crust. So I don’t know how Candace got involved with that or, like, was this. Yeah, I don’t. It’s weird, but just to say, like, these. These chivalric orders right. Inside the Catholic Church, outside in. In, you know, whether it’s Knights of Malta or, you know, the Holy Sepulcher or Knights of Jerusalem or. Right. There’s so many. Right. St. John’s these things are. That’s what runs the intelligence agencies. Sorry, Five eyes. Five eyes, yeah. Like, nothing new under the sun in that. In that sense.
So if we remember that that’s always the enemy. These guys shapeshift. You know, they shapeshift they. All the time. You know, they’re running the ossifists. And these guys were behind. I mean, all Wall street, right, Was behind Hitler. So right. Today, what is it? What were a lot of the Nazis called? They were anti communists. That was a new label that they took on. And so when you keep hearing today, right. It’s the whole fight against communism right out of, like, a McCarthy playbook, as if we’ve learned nothing from that. Who was running that? It was the intelligence agencies.
Yeah, we got a lot to learn because is. It’s crazy. And like, if. If I talk about any of this stuff, the, the backlash I get in the attacks is crazy. And also the whole world was locked down. And then once they reopen up the world, bam, they. You have Kanye blaming the Jews. You know, the most mainstream artist who’s connected to bloodline to the Kardashian cults, like, it’s just, it’s. I can see through it, but most of the world can’t see through it. And I guess that’s how it’s been all throughout history. Yeah. And look, I don’t know, for every single.
I found the Kanye’s interesting in that, you know, he seems to have like gone off script, but then he seems to have been sort of. I mean, some of these MK Ultra and like Hollywood handler sort of operations are so high level, right? They’re so sophisticated that it’s. It’s pretty wild, right? Like during the, during the pandemic, was it Nicki Minaj who said, like, you know, whether you should get vaccinated or not? Like, she made one comment and it disappeared. She’s. She had like 300 million Instagram followers. So it’s like when one of these people falls out of line even a bit, it’s a problem, right? Because it’s such a powerful and big machine.
And like Kanye pointed out, you know, what did the handlers, Kardashian handlers, he said, what do they do? They’re the people tell you what you should be afraid of. Which is very interesting, right? Because that’s the thing. If you elicit images and scenarios, right, we’re talking about trauma, mind control here, hypnosis, where you elicit the right images and, well, if you say this, this could happen. You don’t want that to happen, right? You don’t want to lose this thing and that thing and then that person’s gonna, you know, drop you. A lot of these celebrities are nowhere near as powerful as they seem, right? They have big empires.
But there’s plenty of evidence to suggest that if they fall out of line, these people can be taken out very quickly. And so I don’t know if the Borg Cube sort of came back, Kanye went off script. He’s probably done all sorts of weird and bad things, but doesn’t mean these people don’t break profile. Even MK Ultra mind control victims can sort of start spilling the beans, right? McGowan, actually, Dave McGowan, who wrote weird Scenes Inside the Canyon, he has another book which I still need to read, Programmed to Kill. But he made some mention in Weird Scenes from the Canyon about what MK Ultra, like, he had split Personalities, you know, he had like the.
The Alpha programming, like the assassination sort of programming and another. And he was saying that he was like, he was a intelligence agency experiment and they wanted him to, you know, he was trained to kill. And these people don’t always work out, right, because they’re. They’re preying on mentally ill people. People who have trauma backgrounds, right, who easily disassociate. But it doesn’t mean that these people will forget. Right? Their memories are never fully wiped and things can be triggered. I know somebody who was MK Ultra. Not as from what I can tell or from what she.
She said. Like she wasn’t part of a program, but it was by one of her own family members who, like, he renamed her, gave her a second name when she was just a baby. And he hypnotized her. So there was more than one of her, and one was a sex slave and one was just, you know, she thought everything was normal. And the two worlds didn’t really ever meet until much later, until she was like in her 50s and memories started to come back. So you do get these glitches in the MK Ultra programming. And then it’s like if you start to poke, you’re like, whoa, this thing is.
This thing is wild. Have you seen the film Blink Twice yet? It’s about remembering the MK Ultra. Like remembering kind of like what you’re talking about, where they get brainwashed to forget and then they start remembering stuff. This is a good movie if you haven’t seen it. Or have you seen the movie the Apprentice about Trump, the new one? No. Oh, man, it’s sick. Like, it goes into Roy cone and like the espionage blackmail that they were doing. And they show all the frogs too. So, like it goes into like the frog thing with the meme magic.
It seems that that’s where it. I feel like it’s like a hidden code. Like, yo, there’s a hidden secret. There’s a hidden secret behind the frog. You mean Pepe the Frog? There’s a. Yeah. So, like. Yeah, I don’t know that. I mean, I know it’s the whole. Well, it’s always awaken a nudge, right? For the alt right stuff, which is Dark Maga, right? Which is really sort of targeted the younger generations. The Zoomers. I mean, I follow various zoomer telegram channels and stuff. I follow a lot of stuff, but like all of you guys. But some of the memes, like, it’s.
It’s a lot of. I mean the Zoomers are pretty hardcore. A lot of them that have been radicalized. And you see, okay, so in 10 years, you know, these people are going to be whatever, early 30s, mid-30s, and not far down the line, I mean, they will eventually sort of come into power. And what will that look like? If they’ve been sort of, you know, they’ve been drinking this templar and all dark, all this dark Maga Kool Aid. They, the, the Pepe the Frog is kind of like a wink and a nudge. Just joking, bro. Right.
But like, Nick Fuentes has he talked about that, like they, they make really hardcore, like racist or just crazy. They say crazy things, right? Whether it’s like the Jewish conspiracy and then they’ll say, just joking, bro. Right. So like, oh, we’re just joking. So it’s kind of like ironic. So, yeah, they create cultures, right? You put, it’s just a picture, it’s just an image. You put a meme, you put it there and you get people to emote with these things. And now they feel they’re part of like kind of a secret society. They’re part of the tribe, right.
They’re part of a, a political family of initiates. Right. I, I don’t know if you know what a Juggalo is. It’s a fan of Insane Clown Posse rap group. And you said you were raised in that, huh? Yeah, I grew up. So like, I got my like first like hand of being like a follower of like a, a band, a group. Right. And we were like the original memes where we would all like talk crap about everybody. It was raunchy, they would say awful things and it was fun and cool. Especially when you’re like 14. So like, I don’t know, the Zoomers, they’re probably like 14 year old kids that are.
I, I don’t know the, their age bracket, but these movements are put in place by the Tavistock Institutes, by the Illuminati, the Greta Thunberg movements. There’s all these different movements. There are traps for the youth because they know the youth is mad and pent up aggression and rage and they give me rage against the machine. The. Yeah, disenchanted. Yes. And so all the movements we see online that are being promoted, even if they’re not being promoted by the mainstream, but they still go on mainstream talk show. Like Piers Morgan, he brings on the most nastiest people on his show to promote them.
Like, and so we’re not the mainstream. It’s the same thing with ICP and the Juggalos. Like, they’re weren’t allowed in the Mainstream, but they were in the mainstream. Disney put out the record, they’re in the show, the office, they’re in the show, on the mainstream shows, you know, but. Or Eminem makes fun of them at the Dr. Drake like so they’re in the mainstream, but they’re not the mainstream. So it’s sort of, I feel like the same tactics with. It’s a counterculture. Counterculture. What was the 1960s? Rock, drugs, sex, you know, hippie movement, right? Which in again Dave McGowan’s book, Weird Scenes inside the Canyon, you know, he talks about some of the handlers like Frank Zappa or, or that the children of military industrial complex and intelligence families, very powerful ones, were tasked with sort of, sort of inspiring and managing the movement.
Jim Morrison’s father was a high level Navy admiral who participated in the non event or false flag Gulf of Tonkin incident. Frank Zappa’s father was a chemical, a warfare specialist in Maryland. And Frank Zappa was one of like the godfathers or spiritual fathers of the movement. Yet they were hardcore like they were. Right, right. They were like hardcore conservative sort of establishment people. They didn’t like the hippies, but yet they were around them and they were sort of, they were shaping that culture and what the hippies do, right. A lot of the anti war sentiments and movements that were genuinely against war and military industrial complex were pulled into this sex, drugs, altered states, right? Get like alter your state, take lsd, liberate liberation, all these things.
And so legitimate people didn’t really want to be associated with that. So the anti war movement kind of fizzles out because now you’re going to be associated with drug addict, right? With people in a, you know, a 20 person polycule at Woodstock, you know, and that’s how they’re liberating. Like now it’s Burning man, like where they. It’s the same thing. It’s like the same story, just different location. Yeah. I have a question. So how did. Who ran the Juggalo thing? Like was there like a godfather Fate? Like who. Who’s the. How does this thing. I’m so happy you asked.
This is my favorite topic. So I would say Violent J is the leader the of it. I think he has the most influence out of everybody. But the Jugalos is different than icp. There’s a lot of Grateful Dead connections to it, to it all. Even the Hatchet man, their logo, which is the symbol is the exact same thing as the Grateful Dead dancing bear. It’s the same thing. But they threw a hatchet in its hand and gave it like dreadlocks. And also the people that put on the gathering of the jugglers. There is a military connection not to leave out with like jump studies.
Violent Jay’s brother, military connections. They grew up on like an army base pretty much and they didn’t like the racism and on the army base. So they really put that in their music and their messaging. And that’s why I really enjoyed that movement because it was anti bigotry. It was. There’s a lot of good stuff about it. Especially as the disenchanted angry youth. You get to hear about them killing people and all, all that. You know, it’s what little like 12 year old donut wanted to listen to. Because I was so angry, but it was also I was so scared.
So it was a way to process what reality. Same thing with heavy metal. People listen to heavy metal or make it. It’s a way to process reality. It’s. It’s a good. It’s not like I’m not throwing the whole thing thing out there, but the Jugalos are like the hippies. So we’re our own thing. So it’s its own thing that takes on its own memetic magic hive mind. And it’s a. It’s the collective, it’s the crowd, it’s the crowd consciousness. It doesn’t have a thinking brain of itself. It’s not an individual. Just like the hippie movement and the hippie movement.
What the. The biggest threat is Noam Chomsky because he spoke adequately and he dressed nice and he was someone the anti war movement people would. Were real. The war movement was scared of him. So they create the Timothy Leary to push the drug culture. And so like the whole Juggalo thing is just a big drug culture in. In a sense as well. Interesting. And yeah, I mean we realize when we, we zoom out, there are so many of these kind of cult experiments. Right. And this is how the social engineers learn. Right. Like the one thing that is interesting is while we’re saying that science has been very much top down controlled and all sorts of things have been prohibited like science.
There’s a lot of weird theoretical stuff. Right. The standard model from the early 1900s is still the thing that is held up as, you know, the definite model and physics has sort of been really held back. Science has been held back because we haven’t broken out of this. It’s just like random particles floating around, around in empty space around some core nut. And it’s not organized. Right. Space is not really organized. It’s kind of just random and empty. And so just to say the scientists, they’ll control these kind of scientific notions and there’s not much experimental science or combined with solid theory.
But then when you go to social engineers and these MKULTRA experiments, they do so many experiments, they do so much field work, right. They’re going in their profiling, all the aboriginal tribes, they’re creating a Manson cult, they’re creating a rock drug, sex counterculture. They’re clearly, you know, probably created Juggalo and these kind of weird things. Jim Jones, right? Evangelical cults. You know, I, I used to, I knew someone once, he was saying how his father had gotten somewhat high up in these like these megachurch evangelical groups. And he saw that during the 2000, 2004, they were all infiltrated by the intelligence agencies which were trying to push the Iraq war.
Right. And so there’s always this intelligence connection to these things. It’s like you can always, you can just sort of take it for granted, assume it is, and as a hypothesis, and then see if you can find some sort of, you know, higher up priest kind of steering it. Same way, you know, Manson was being steered by all sorts of shady characters. His name Jolly and there’s a bunch of others, you know, Scientology. He was, he was also apparently involved with Scientology in Laurel Canyon. He was close to. He was, they were close to where? Heinlein.
Heinlein, this sci fi writer, part of the Crowley and Lodge, who lived on Lookout Mountain, which was a secret military base that. This is what McGowan talks about with. Equipped with like a huge film studios and everything. So it seemed like that’s where they were creating propaganda and, and the counterculture that was all in the same area. So yeah, they’re seeding all kinds of movements and then the movements take a life of their own. So they don’t seem like they’re controlled. But that’s, that’s actually how it works. You want the thing to kind of take a life of its own, but it’s imbibed certain core ideas that will, it’ll just sort of naturally play out.
This is cybernetics as well. Like I was listening to a lecture by Bateson and he was talking about what is cybernetics. He’s looking at history and he’s saying there’s a lot of details or events that people think are important in history, but what we’re looking at are those moments of change where there’s a change in attitude, there’s a change in outlook. And then everything else is just the pattern playing out. So if you can understand those critical junctures where new patterns are formed or how pattern formation happens, whether it’s in tribes and their religious rituals or in culture, right.
The music and the entertainment that people like and how that creates feedback loops and sort of it feeds back into their self image. That’s. That’s what MK Ultra mind control stuff. I mean they look at all that and that’s required a lot of experimentation. You know, McGill University here in Montreal. So they were doing experiments on if you can create a blank slate, if you can really from scratch, totally erase everything and give people a new personality. You know, put them in a coma for three months and play, you know, play some recording and see if they kind of remember and learn everything.
And. And they saw that certain things were limited, certain things did not work. But like you could implant false memories, which in a sense, if you can implant a false memory, that means you can get people to forget the past because they have another memory of what actually happened. So they’re not blank slates, but they’re compartmentalized. And it’s like, okay, there’s only a certain perception of the population that can fully disassociate or is more prone to disassociation. And so we need to find these people. We need to find, you know, in the prison system or in the mental health world, right.
Kids who have been abused, they’re more likely, you know, we saw with this Trump assassin. I don’t know what’s going on. You know, still a lot of. But this kid was. We know nothing about him except he was like in a black rock commercial. And how weird is that? His focus parents were social workers. It’s so weird. Yeah. And like the whole thing of that happening and then where we’re at now, I was breaking down like this is the symbol which is a pyramid with the missing capstone of the pyramidion. And then this is where he revealed the dark Maga, right? It was just Maga where people were like maga, you know, that’s in.
People been talking about that forever. But that it happened here in this Keystone State, it just was so symbolic when I was looking at it. Now we see crypto, you know, skyrocketing. The PayPal mafia created this sort of like how the hippie movement was created or DARPA creating Facebook. Like they, they created bitcoin, crypto, the Internet to give it the life of its own, you know, and also because get handing it without regulations or rules is where innovation Comes in, you know, before the regular regulators come in to control it all from the builders, from the creative.
Yeah, they always, they’re always still right. You always find out these people are like stealing things. Bill Gates, he just stole a bunch of stuff that other people had done and sort of did it like. Yeah, it’s nothing new under the sun. Yeah. All the more. When we study these things, like, the faces change, right. The outward appearance of things change. But the whole point of a true aristocratic classical education, in Plato’s sense, is we go beyond the level of appearances. You know, he gives. He describes six different kinds of men, and he says there are as many kinds of states as there are kinds of men.
Because he’s talking about what’s the ideal form of government for a republic. And so he lays out different personalities, right at the bottom you have the tyrant who’s the Nietzschean, right, might makes right. He knows he can impose his will, and he doesn’t really believe in any higher truth beyond strength and power. Then you have the democratic man, democrat comes from demos, which is the mob. So the democratic society is basically mob rule. It’s opinion, which is in Greek, it’s doxa. So the people at the level of democratic world, they operate on opinion. So like, I like this thing, it makes me feel good, therefore it’s good.
I don’t like this person. I don’t like what they say. It makes me feel bad, therefore they’re bad. That’s. That’s the level of logic at which the democratic person operates. And they have a series of beliefs which have been sort of socially approved by the demos. And these are held as correct because they’re believed by most people, therefore they must be right. It’s just the level of opinion that’s the second level. Then you have the oligarchy or the plutocrat, which doesn’t believe in opinion as such. They know there’s a reality outside of just the world of opinion.
But they master in controlling images, controlling, manipulating opinion, manipulating the doxa. And that’s what they. Their higher level of truth is really, to the degree that you can control that you can really decide what’s true. But they don’t go so. And they stop there. And at the higher level, on the good side, the first level is the timocratic man, which believes in honor and justice, you know, doing the right thing. So we can think of like the early founders of, like the Roman Republic or, you know, the Greek republics. And then you have the aristocratic men who, being excellence, so, you know, they, they deal in excellence and that in self, you know, self analysis, knowledge, going beyond opinion in every.
In every respect and loving truth. Right. Looking for truth, even if it means getting rid of things that we like. Right. We may love things or believe things that are not true. The aristocratic ban is not afraid to go there, to shatter his own illusions. And he knows that that’s really the only way that you can shatter someone else’s illusions in a loving way is if you’ve gone through that process yourself. Right. And that. So that takes love. At the end of the day, without that, you won’t. You won’t get far. And at the highest level, you have the philosopher kings who Plato says should rule right.
With the help of aristocratic men. But they’re also tasked with creating new aristocratic men and philosopher kings. So they’re kind of. Yeah, they have to pay attention to the. The overall. So you have people like Socrates, like Plato. And so, yeah, being able to distinguish between these different levels, I think is useful because the bottom half, they. It’s all about appearances. And they’ll never go beyond appearances. Some are believe in controlling appearances. Right. They’re also the magicians, the oligarchs. The proto oligarch is the magician or the sorcerer of an archaic civilization. And so if we want to go beyond, beyond that, we have to think about these other three levels and that they exist.
Right. And that’s why we want to study the kind of works, the classics, and have the kind of culture that promotes that kind of discernment. That’s my spiel. Nice. That was sick. I gotta get. I gotta. I gotta read that. I need to elevate into that philosopher man. The Republic. Yeah, the republic. Right. And the. That’s. That’s amazing. Paranoid. What’s your thoughts on all that? I know you, you wicked smile. That’s a. That’s a lot. I don’t know which part. So I think in one of the opening. I don’t know if it was part of the republic or.
Or one of the other things that got added to it in the mass publications. But Plato says something about, like, don’t even try and read this book until you’re, I think, in your 40s or something. That always intimidated me because I tried reading it a few different times when I was growing up. And what David was talking about before too, about the different classes of society that eventually leads to this idea of the philosopher king, but also that they had this form of government that was very theoretical, that all of those different groups would get together and collectively decide what everybody’s role in society would be how much power they would wield, how their daily lives would work out, and then have almost like a blind vote so that everyone would be assigned these roles.
So you might vote on like, how the king gets to live or how the pauper gets to live, but you might end up being assigned the pauper or you might being end up being assigned a king. Obviously society isn’t that simple, so they can’t actually dole it out that way. But that was part of the philosophy between or like behind how they actually wanted to construct that. Yeah. And. Well, I would just say the thing about the Republic, it’s not the last work, like I have over here, Plato it that the Republic is a thought experiment.
This is Plato’s Laws, which is a much more mature and later work, and it’s much more practical. So if we read Plato’s later, later dialogues, it’s like, hey, we’ve done all these different thought experiments, you know, which offer all sorts of insights. But the Republic is not like a literal. We’re going to make the Republic that way. There’s a lot of thought experiments. And in the laws, he kind of just starts laying out, you know, laws and how the government should actually be structured, bearing in mind that you have all these complexities and nuances that have been looked at in the Republic, you know, the different kinds of men, the effect of the role of the poets who were the central image makers, you know, so we’re talking about image making and magicians controlling the imagery.
And in modern times, that being like cybernetic feedback loops, Hollywood, mass media, social media. So the Republic sort of challenges us to think about all these things. But, you know, Plato says things like, should we ban the poets? Right? And people will take this stuff literally. Like, yeah, Plato was a tyrant, you know, he wanted to like, control all the art. It’s like a communist state. It’s the proto communist state. But even then, what the bad guys do if they can’t destroy something, right? You can’t really say, you can’t really destroy the Republic or the ideas.
You distort it if you can’t destroy it. So you have all these Delphic interpretations of Plato where they’ll just leave things out. Okay, so Plato did say that, but he was also playful. Like, if you read the dialogues, he’s kind of joking. He’s like, he’s challenging people to come up and argument. Come up with an argument to refute him. And he says, hey, if you can offer a better example of why the Poet should be allowed into the republic. Like, what is the role of poetry, what is the role of art in an ideal republic? Such that it will not lead people astray, right? Such that it can be a path to goodness, truth and beauty.
And not one without the other, right? Because, okay, you could have beauty, right? You can have outward something that’s very pleasing. But what if it conceals something darker that is not actually true? If people emote with it and it makes them feel good, you know, like a lot of pop songs, I think a pop song is. Plato called poems charms, he called them. They’re. They’re charms, right? They have like a magical effect because they alter your state. You know, you could be in the car, you’re having a shitty day, or you’re tired, you’re driving to work.
Suddenly song comes on. You know, last Friday night or whatever, I’m not hitting Katy Perry or something. And all of a sudden your mood changes, right? Or some EDM comes on and your mood changes. So music, song, poetry have this power to radically trans. To alter our states. And so Plato’s saying, if you just allow this stuff to run amok, it’s going to lead people down all sorts of rabbit holes, but also on all sorts of false paths. So how can poetry be a medium for that leads to the good? That’s a big question. Like, that’s a very complicated question.
Because the artist, he was saying, is an imitator. They’re not talking about the direct thing, truth as such. They’re. They’re presenting an image of something. But then even the image isn’t. Is. Is not actually. It’s. There’s another degree of separation he gives, like a cobbler. He makes shoes, okay? The painter can paint a shoe. He can paint a nice image of the shoe, and it looks just like a shoe. But just because the painter can paint a shoe, does it mean he can make a shoe? No, of course not. So the poet or artist is an imitator, one degree removed even from the cobbler, who is also an imitator, who is making a shoe based on his idea of a shoe, right? He’s able to construct a shoe.
He has a technique, he has certain knowledge. So there are these two degrees of separation when you get to the question of art. And so that’s how you think. How do you deal with that in the ideal republic? And that’s why he makes this. He puts out this challenge. He’s being very cheeky. The bad guys will just take all that. They’ll give you a literal reading of some section of it. And that’s literally what just everyone will run with. So. And these are the Straussians as well. The Straussians. Peter Thiel, you know, one of his big interviews and he had a big essay, it was called the Straussian Moment.
They are Straussians. That. The neocons were Straussians. Dick Cheney will blow up a building, will make people think that they’re under attack. We’ll use that as a basis to justify a war of aggression. You know, that’s. They believe in using opinion, using the levers of power to manipulate people’s perceptions in order to achieve their political goals. And they say that’s what politics is. And so then they’ll say, well, look at Plato, right? Plato is sort of deciding what images should be allowed, prohibiting some giving people different myths. You know, Plato has the myths about the soul.
And so they’re, they’re going to give a Straussing interpretation of Plato. And that’s what dominates or that’s become very popular among alternative academic circles. And in academic circles, otherwise they get like a. The Aristotelian view of Plato, where Aristotle was a commentator of Plato in many ways, and he was trying to refute a lot of Plato’s core ideas, which people don’t like to discuss today because they say they’re friends. And Aristotle was a student. The magicians again, right? They’re sort of just bunching things up together so people can’t discern. And he’s actually the central issues, like if these are at the heart of defining the struggle in Western civilization.
And so you see these guys there, they know that like Peter Thiel is not stupid, right? He studied Strauss, he studied these thinkers who, these purveyors of these cryptic sort of esoteric versus exoteric interpretations of Plato. So Plato has this outward messaging and then he has a secret message for people who can read between the lines. Gnostics say the same thing about the Bible, right? There’s like the outward message for the masses and then there’s the secret message. And if you’re, if you’re an initiate, you know, if you, if you wanna, if you want power, you want to be with us, you want to be in a group, well, then you have to start believing certain things, right? Same mystery, cult format, right? They do it everywhere.
It’s annoying, right? We gotta, we gotta go into that a lot more over on the Patreon. So go. Make sure to go to my Patreon and go watch that video. But I’ll be releasing it here next week as well. How there’s two different doctrines for these, these occultists where you got one doctrine for the public and one for the initiates only who get the, the secrets. That’s amazing. That’s amazing. I want to go back real quick to illuminatic comic dot com. We are almost past the 34. That was the goal tonight. And I know we got more sign ups and I want to give my cat some more drugs.
Paranoid. Did we get a couple of new names? Yeah, we got Jan Hayerts. Got a VHS box. Thank you for, for that. Jan. Oh yeah, Jim. Spencer K. Sign up for the trading card combo. Spencer. Oh yeah. My cat is very grateful. Get the cat the drugs. And we just need like one more signed up so we could get past the, the 33 vertebrae into the 34. David. What. What do you got on your agenda? Any new, anything new coming out? Yeah, I’m putting together. I, like I said the. And I’ll have to get going shortly.
But yeah, I mean this was fun though. We gotta keep the. This is really good what you’re doing. I could watch that cat kick LSD for a while actually. It’s kind of fun. I. The next one is a magic myth and archaic mind control. So yeah, all these things that we’ve talked about, you know, I’m gonna have some like, it’s gonna be a deep dive. So there’s gonna be a lot of like hard quotes that go hard and just some, you know, original sources and then that’s going to open up to the secrets of the Renaissance.
And I’ve been reading Selective Breeding and the Birth of Philosophy by the guy, one of the original popularizers of this alt, right, sort of, you know, based movement. Pepe the Frog stuff. Bronze Age pervert. Right. We went over it a little bit on the Patreon. Yeah, yeah. So the third piece is going to be on that. It’s going to be something from like Bronze Age mindset to Peter Thiel, the Delphic perversion of Plato. So going into how the bad guys sort of pervert the real, sort of classical, the real origins of Western civilization and the authentic ideas and just, you know, plenty of examples of how they do that, which is like I like we’ve done tonight, right, Once we take a couple of examples of how these countercultures are created, how these fake movements are created, then you can start to see it, right? You have some experimental knowledge, if you will, of how these things work.
And so you can smell it after. And the more people who can smell it, the better. Right. For as Lincoln, as Lincoln said, you can fool most of the people most of the time, but you can’t fool all the people all the time. So I feel we’re. We’re at that kind of moment right now. Nice, nice. And I got all David’s links down below. Go to his Twitter, go subscribe there and go to the substack. You don’t have a YouTube channel, do you? No, but we’re actually. We’re making a commercial for the magazine with my buddy.
So, yeah, we’re going to be putting. Chain News is our. Is our literary journal, so really our literary outlet. And New Liar is our printed magazine, you know, because we want people to read, we want people. We want to encourage long form. Right. Most of my stuff is long form. They’re deep dives. Otherwise, I’m publishing poems, recordings. And so, yeah, we have a pretty growing enterprise. And yeah, the next thing is doing more videos. We did a poetry film, but we’re going to be doing more and eventually a movie. So we’re still working on that. But yeah, like, now is the time to really put out the real deal.
I mean, like Hollywood, for example, I was reading a great article by Ted Joya on the Honest Broker sub stack, and he’s just talking about how, like, the traditional Hollywood is dying. And if you look at the big companies like Disney and all these guys, they’re tanking, right, because they put out so much trash. Or there’s a whole conspiracy with the Joker. Maybe you guys looked into that, you know, that they did on purpose to ruin it. Because they didn’t. They didn’t like that a certain segment of the population was really, you know, they were kind of.
There were certain themes in the first Joker that people were. That resonated with the disenchanted generations in a way that they didn’t like. So the theory is that they intentionally. I’ll send you a fun discussion on that. They intentionally destroyed the new Joker and threw like $300 million down the drain. But just to say that. So there’s. Yeah, just to say there’s like a new Hollywood. There’s a new, like more independent film studios. And so distribution has changed. So there’s way more room for original sort of creations and productions even in the film world. Right. There’s an openness.
So, yeah, we’re looking at all that. And the idea being that it all kind of starts. It goes back to Poetics, it goes back to, you know, the. The core art of image making, which is what Plato was looking at and which throughout history, whether it’s Homer’s Iliads, Dante’s comedy. You know, what would Western civilization look like without Homer’s epic poems or Dante or Shakespeare? It’s, it’s. It’s not even. You can’t measure that. Right. It’s on such a high qualitative level. And so these things, you know, culture, the maxim in recent times has been politics is downstream from culture.
But that’s what Plato was really looking at with his republic, with his polemic on the poets. And so we’re operating with a. We’re mindful of these things, you know, with the kind of stuff that we put out and the people that we’re working with to build a solid stable of writers and thinkers who, you know, will take up Plato’s challenge and therefore, you know, be aware of what the bad guys do to distort and pervert that. And like you guys, the Illuminati will not be buying us out anytime soon, God willing. And that’s what I like about everybody.
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It was a pleasure listening to all your takes on philosophy and classical liberal arts and it was nice meeting you, David. Yeah, it was great jamming with you guys. Love what you guys are doing. Love the cat. I. I wish your cat well as well. Shout out and drink that cranberry juice and yeah, we’ll be in touch. Yes, yes. Yeah, I look, I look forward to. Yeah, I look forward to seeing all this stuff you’re putting out, man. It’s very impressive. God bless. God bless. Thank you, everybody. Make sure to smash that, like, button. It’s Donut.
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