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Summary
➡ The speaker discusses their admiration for the Foo Fighters and their impact on the alternative rock movement. They also mention a detailed article about a music performance involving candles, specifically black ones, and how other bands have mimicked this. The conversation then shifts to a discussion about an alien war and the Dulce underground base, based on the account of a whistleblower named Phil Schneider. The speaker recommends checking out an episode on Metaphysical that delves into this topic in detail.
➡ There’s been a rise in mysterious cattle mutilations in different parts of the world, including Argentina and the United States. The cattle are found with specific wounds, their blood and certain organs removed, and no signs of struggle or decay. Despite initial thoughts of dog attacks or human interference, the lack of blood, tracks, or scavenger interest has led some to blame mythical creatures like the Chupacabra. A documentary titled “Not One Drop of Blood” is being made to investigate these strange occurrences.
➡ The text discusses mysterious cattle mutilations, where the animals’ reproductive organs and tongues are removed, and their blood drained, leaving the meat behind. Some believe this could be the work of aliens or supernatural forces, as there’s no logical explanation. This phenomenon has been reported since the 1800s, but became more recognized in the 1970s. The text also mentions an upcoming documentary on the subject and promotes a brand of coffee.
➡ The upcoming series on Rise TV explores the concept of planned obsolescence, starting with the light bulb, which was designed to last exactly 10,000 hours. The series also investigates where our recycled electronics end up, revealing that they often end up as trash in other countries, particularly in Africa. The series also delves into the mysteries of space, discussing theories around the Voyager 1 and 2 spacecrafts, which stopped transmitting signals back to Earth. The series suggests that the signals could potentially be a response from an intelligent entity in deep space, possibly indicating contact with extraterrestrial life.
➡ The discussion revolves around an old space object, launched in the 70s, that has lost contact with Earth. The speakers speculate that it may have malfunctioned due to its age and outdated technology. They also suggest that it could have encountered extraterrestrial life or experienced changes due to gravitational forces. There’s a belief that NASA might be withholding information about these possibilities.
➡ The text discusses a mysterious event involving a space object and its unexpected behavior, suggesting possible extraterrestrial involvement. It also mentions a live chat on Rise TV, a subscription-based platform, where they discuss various topics, including unusual news. The text ends with an introduction to an upcoming episode featuring Michael Schratt, an aviation historian and UFO investigator, who will share astonishing accounts of UFO encounters and alien sightings.
Transcript
NASA claimed it was just random code that didn’t make sense, but others speculate it was a coded message that NASA is concealing intentionally shutting down the program. Yeah, don’t miss the weekly Bendella effect featuring that guy over there. Right. And it’s gonna. It’s gonna be all about Nirvana’s MTV Unplugged. And we’re gonna have to see what’s changed over there. I’m looking forward to that. And tune in for the Metaphysical minute segment about the Dulce firefight. Yeah. And on Rise tv, during the Dig Deep Live Q A, ask us your questions directly. And then finally, in the fan Favorite top 10 weirder news of the week, hear hilarious and bizarre stories, such as a song that makes chocolate tastes better, which I tried to see if it actually worked.
Got to hear about that Will. The Will Smith AI fiasco, and a man who hasn’t been able to sleep for two years. Plus so much more. Wow. I really do. Can’t wait for that. Yeah, well. And as always, we’ll see you guys out on the edge. How you doing, Ben? Pretty good, Rob. How are you doing? Good. It’s been a good week. Yeah. I guess there’s a slight delay for everyone watching on Rise tv. I guess there is a slight delay. So it is starting. What does that mean, a slight delay? Like we’re. We’re like. Normally it’s like, you know, it’s like 30 seconds behind where it’s like it just started.
I think it’s like a minute behind right now, so. Oh, really? Yeah. I mean, what. What could we do with this time advantage? Go back in the past. Yeah. Advantage of this somehow. For those of you watching us everywhere else, especially on Rumble, please subscribe to our channel and don’t forget to hit, like, subscribe. Why does it seem like Rumble is dead? I don’t know. I keep wanting. We get pretty good views and from time to time. And the subscriber base doesn’t really go up, which makes no sense. So it doesn’t. What’s the deal? Is it.
I’m just wondering, are people logging in and watching stuff? No, are people not logging in and watching stuff? Do you know what I mean? Yeah, that’s kind of what I’m thinking. But who knows? You’d think that we would grow a little bit on Rumble. Yeah. Their algorithm isn’t as good as YouTube, though, unfortunately, but not at all. And we also have our podcast on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and a couple other things too. So if you’re watching or listening there, please leave us a five star review. And also remember, you can listen to us there if you’re in your car too.
So. All right. And I gotta hear this. What’s going on with Nirvana Unplugged? Because this was the single most watched unplugged on MTV in all of the 90s. I know. So this is really weird to me. And I’m. So the candles that are there. And I. But first. Oh, yeah, let’s do the transition first. There we go. It’s kind of not the same without that transition. Yeah, it is. So this is really weird to me. I. And for some people, this may be kind of subtle, but. Yeah, this is something I watched a lot. The candles that are in the videos now, you know, when.
When they were doing this, were they like normal candles? Like white normal candles, or were they all black? White, yeah. I specifically remember this. And now all of the candles are black. And you just play this without the sound. So we don’t. Yeah, but. Okay, let’s see. It’s gonna show them in a minute. Look, all of those candles, every single one of them, all black. The other thing is I remember them being different sizes, mostly the fatter ones. And the reason why is because I specifically remember Kurt saying he wanted candles the day that they were going to do it, and they literally had to run out and buy them.
So the fact that they’re all black doesn’t make a lot of sense to me because black candles are not really that a very common thing to find unless you’re around Halloween. And this was not around Halloween, if I remember correct correctly. So it’s very strange. Do you. Do you. Do you remember black candles at all? This is not a detail I would remember. I thought they were fatter and white. That’s what I remember too. And I don’t remember them being on a floor. I remember there being a Little table. I. I kind of remember a little bit of both.
You’re right, though. I feel like there was a table right there where they’re on the floor. I feel like it was a little bit of both because I remember there they did issue that this could be a fire hazard, but then it was like Kurt really, really wanted it and that’s why they. They went with it. Now what’s interesting, can’t really see it extremely well, but here’s a T shirt. And I had the shirt. This is another reason why I’m like, so. I know this so well is because I had the shirt. But look in the background.
I mean, you can’t really see it too well, but it looks like there’s like down at the right. Where is the neck of the guitar, is the head of the guitar. It kind of looks like they’re more like whitish in color. The candles there and not. I don’t think those are candles. I think those are. They may not be. They may. The candles were in front of him, weren’t they? They were kind of all around. That’s the thing. And I. I do remember them being different sizes and mostly the. The fatter ones because I feel like if they were black, we.
We would have had a. More of a conversation. Especially died. The problem is that Kurt would have chosen black handles. I. I mean, obviously now that that’s probably the case, but I don’t. That’s what’s weird about it is because I feel like. And some people were like, some people online thought, well, maybe because you’re watching and it’s lower quality. But that video we’re watching was. I specifically looked for a lower quality video and you could still see the black candles. So. And it was a big deal because after he died, it was like everyone was like, oh, my gosh.
You know, it was almost like this is more of a funeral and. But no one, like, among my friend. My friend group, we would have talked about how the candles were black. And it was just very ominous leading up to his death. But it’s like I never had that conversation because I don’t remember them being black or before this live show. When’s the last time you watched like, any of the videos from the. Actually, pretty recently. Me too. Yeah. Yeah. Because I was. I don’t know. I can’t remember what I was doing. I was in my car or something and.
And I. I’m. I have a way to watch YouTube kind of in my car. So it’s a long story. But anyway, so I was I did have that on, and I was watching it, but also I had it on the tv, too. And at the time, I just. It didn’t hit me at the time I was watching it, and it just wasn’t until recently where somebody mentioned it. And then I went back and I was like. I feel like. Of the Mandela effects that are more obvious or serious, this is not one I would have caught.
But what I did think was funny about the MTV Unplugged is if you watch Dave Grohl drumming, where he’s got, like, the Manhattan turtleneck on. Oh, yeah, he does. That’s right. You can tell it’s like, the most serious gig he’s ever played. And he’s. He’s being so serious about the. The. It’s so funny. Like, that part alone is so funny, because he’s not really like that. No, no, he’s just like, everything he does, he’s just being so careful and, like, making sure he doesn’t screw up the entire time. Well, I feel. I feel like the. The whole band kind of rests on him because he’s such a good drummer and he’s really holding the.
The. Oh, y. Crazy good. Yeah. So I feel like that’s kind of. And then. And he’s, like, playing bass and he’s, like, playing the drums at the same. And singing at one point. Yeah. The most amazing thing about, like, I remember always hearing Dave Grohl was talented, but then when Foo Fighters formed and their first album came out and everyone told me that he played all of the instruments separately and then just put them all together, I was like, this guy’s insane. Like, totally insane. Yeah. Super talented guy. I mean, honestly, I was never a huge fan of Nirvana.
In fact, I always said the best thing that came out of Nirvana was Foo Fighters and when I was growing up. Yeah, but they’re. They’re absolutely. I would, you know, what you might have been if they had opportunities to create more music, but they’re definitely one of the cornerstones of the alternative rock movement. Anyway, let’s not get into this too much because we’ll. I mean. I mean, you know, obviously, it was. He was great and everything, like, musician and everything. I think growing up, it was just kind of like, okay, you know, I was more. I’m more in the structured sound.
You know, Nirvana is more of like, just kind of all around, just whatever they’re feel like playing. Ben, you have an article mentioning the candles. Well, there’s an article here that. That was talking about the candles, but it doesn’t mention. I mean, this is a really, really in depth article that was published right around when. When this was produced. And see, it says right there, I want candles and stargazer lilies and so specific. No, seriously. And they’re. And then Kurt was like, yeah, kind of like a. Like a funeral. And they were like. And I remember that, you know, that that was one of the things that they were talking about.
But it doesn’t mention specifically black candles in this. And that’s another reason why I thought this is strange. But I. I clear. I do remember different size candles, mostly the fatter ones and, and so seeing the black ones and. And other bands have. Have mimicked that too, using like the kind of candle aspect of things and. But they’re not black. So I think. Okay, we don’t need to like. Dom, if you’re there, I think you’re on the chat, let us know in the chat what you remember because you definitely would have remembered that same thing. I want to ask my, my, my brother too.
I meant to ask him earlier and I completely forgot about it, but. Yeah, see, what. Hey, thanks, Audrey. Audrey’s given us a couple of donations. She’s. She’s all about those pumpkin spice lattes, according to her. I hope you drink many pumpkin spice lattes this season. Just don’ to that weird pumpkin thing in the video that I posted. Yeah, that’s true. And also, I want to know. I mean, I do have the, you know, Kurkaban guitar, which, you know, it’s like Nirvana. It was just, you know, they’re not. They weren’t like my ultimate favorite band or whatever, you know.
But I. I did like the sound and the tone of what they were doing. Oh, interesting. Patty Cake said someone from Rumble said the Red Hot Chili. I think their name has saw this the Red Hot Chili Peppers video for Danny California. I don’t know if that was their name, the name of the. But they said they has the band pretending to be Nirvana when they did Unplugged and the Candles are White. Yeah, see that? That’s it. I was like. There was a band I just saw recently that that was mimicking Nirvana and I couldn’t remember what band it was.
That’s why I didn’t want to say anything. But that’s it, right? Outside of Peppers. Yep. Yeah. All right, why don’t we get on to the metaphysical minute here? All right, sounds good. Okay. This week’s episode is pretty cool. It’s all about the alien war and the Dulce underground base. So, Ben, have you ever really looked into the Dulce firefight. I, I have quite a bit, but mostly, but I mean, not, not, not in like I’m, you know, extreme way of remote viewing or anything else like that. Well, I won’t give too much away, but the synopsis of the Dulce firefight is they’re digging, they’re making their own base in New Mexico, it secret, they’re drilling underground and all of a sudden they hit a open area and when they hit the open area, this, this fume and stank comes up from the area.
So one of the guys on the site gets dropped down into the hole and as soon as he gets dropped down into the hole to see, hey, what’s going on here? Like what did we just drill into? There’s at least three tall grays there. And he freaks out because what do you, you see weird beings. And he pulls a pistol and he shoots a couple of them and then one of them gets off this like crazy energy blast and, and it hits this guy, his name’s Phil Schneider, and he loses like a couple of fingers and, and it opens up his chest, a Green Beret drops down, puts him on a, a pulley, gets him taken up and this fight ensues.
For quite a long time now, the question throughout the ages has been whether or not this is real or this is all just a great story that’s been passed down because there’s so much confusing things that are going on. There were so many disinformation agents involved with the entire thing. Paul Benowitz is seeing all of this stuff. Paul Benowitz basically was made to go insane from all of this crazy stuff that happened around New Mexico and the Dulce area. And we had John remote view the entire thing and he gives all of his remote viewing data and the conversation is crazy.
So if you guys are interested in that, I highly recommend going to check out the alien war episode on the Dulce firefight on Metaphysical. It will definitely capture your attention for sure. Yeah, these are. Now what’s weird is these photos were, were taken of allegedly of Dulce. And we also talk about whether or not these photos are real and where they came from. So also a cool thing to, to check out is there’s a lot of, there were probably a lot of people going in with questions that are interested in that entire thing and you’re going to leave with the complete picture of what happened.
I wholeheartedly feel that after that conversation. Very cool. Very, very cool. All right, well, intro. Yeah, why don’t you show the intro Secret underground base in New Mexico. At least that’s according to. There’s a secret underground base in New Mexico. At least that’s according to a whistleblower named Phil Schneider, who came forward describing how he lost part of his hand in 19. A battle between humans and aliens had waged within a secret bunker underground, leaving death and destruction on both sides. Amazingly, he got out and exposed the details of this Dulce firefight to the public. But perhaps he went too far because sometime later he was found dead.
Could Schneider have been telling the truth, or are his claims too strange to believe? How does this case tie into disinformation campaigns rampant in the ufology community? In this episode of Metaphysical, we’ll discuss the details of what Schneider said, the nature of alien propaganda, and then we’ll hear John Difanko’s remote viewing data. John was able to pinpoint what really happened and where missing people have disappeared to around Dulce. Then you can decide what parts of the story are actually true. If you thought the Roswell UFO crash was the most significant event to ever happen in the New Mexico desert, think again.
Join me, investigative researcher Rob Counts and remote viewer John Vivanko for a metaphysical show that’s out of this world. Cool. Thank you, Lindsey. One of the craziest things that happened, I think in that video, if you’re thinking about checking it out, is John didn’t even believe Dulce was real, but he ended up getting tasked with a completely unrelated remote viewing tasking, I guess you could say. And that story that he tells is totally insane. I don’t even. I don’t want to get in. It’ll take too long for me to explain. But it’s so interesting. It’s. It’s one of the most interesting parts of that entire episode.
Well, why don’t we. Why don’t we watch a trailer and. Yeah, and when we come back, we’re going to be getting into all of the cool stuff, cattle mutilations and all kinds of things. In this series, from Edge of Wonder, we dive into neural nets, sentient robots, gene editing technology, smart implants, programmable monkeys, evolution and social manipulation. Is resistance futile? How can we Rage against the Machine Foreignism series that has four different episodes that we worked really hard on, and we ended up actually even being asked to go on a couple of big podcasts after that, after that series released.
Highly worth it because it goes over the history of transhumanism, how far it goes back, all the crazy experiments that they’ve done, and how humans have been trying to merge man and machine for as far back as we can even remember at this point. So definitely worth checking out. That’s all on Rise tv, our exclusive platform that you can get access to by supporting our work and showing us a little love just for a cup of coffees per month. Totally worth it. Yeah, Ben, take it away. All right. I think. Okay, so yeah, we’re going to get into the.
So cattle mutilations which are seen to be kind of on the rise in different parts of the world. I think this first one we are going to show this. This was like translated from a Spanish article. I want to say this is in Argentina. Tentina is where this took place. It’s like a small area in. In Argentina. So this guy named Torin Mediana, I guess that is one of his cattle. That’s one of the cat. The. One of. One of the cows, I think. Was it a cows or a goat? I can’t remember which one it was.
I think it was a cow. There was a few different cows and it pretty much. This area is a very quiet area. Nothing really too much happened or happens, I should say. And then all of a sudden, just this past week, there was this cattle mutilation that happened. And it happened in I guess two different areas in the. In or two different farms in that area. And. But they. They’ve have continued over the past three months in these areas. And initially the owner thought that. So these were small, small. There were calves, small cows, you know, like sure, baby cows.
And so that he had about 650 and he thought they were being attacked by dogs. However he noticed that the. So the neighbor like, well, was like, oh, okay, let me tie up my dogs. Make sure that, you know, they’re not attacking your cattle. And there was. It was still happening. But then as he started looking into it and then he started. Then he notified the authorities and the media. He found things were getting even weirder. All of them had very specific wounds. All of the same wounds. Holes in front of the head and the nose completely shattered.
The patterns repeat itself. Blood and heart. The blood and the hearts and the sexual organs all have been removed. Leaving, leaving dry bodies smell less. And once again they were not attracting any kinds of scavengers. Crows, even bugs. All, all, everything. No scent is what you said. What’d you say? You said smell less. No sense. No less. That it’s. In other words, like you’d think when you. When you come up, they’d be rotting, rotting corpse. It would be smelling bad, right? Had no smell, they said. And so he actually said, even though he didn’t see it himself, he blamed the Chupacabra.
He’s like, it’s the only explanation, you know, down there. It’s like in the. In the south, the Chupacabra is like a very real thing. Up here, people are more referring to aliens, you know, or they would be. If that was in Colorado or Arizona or Utah, they would have been like skid walkers again. Yeah, yeah. Now, and a common thread through all of these. So there are things that people are slaughtering animals and mostly stealing the meat from the animals. So some farmers have reported that they’re finding slash marks in the legs of their animals, which.
That therefore, they’re unable to move and that they’re kind of suffering. And then, you know, but it’s a mess. They’re clearly being killed by. By humans in this case and taken for their meat in these specific cases. There’s no blood. There’s no blood around the animals. None whatsoever. So, you know, which is very, very strange in itself. And I’ll get into even more of the weirdness. Beyond strange. Yeah. It’s in the fact that people. They’re not attracting even bugs is weird, you know, and. And that’s what these farmers are saying. And they’re. They’re just kind of like, we don’t.
We don’t know what to do, you know, I mean, the authorities have, like, said anybody with information to come forward, you know, will be rewarded, and they want to arrest people. But it’s like, if it really is the Chupacabra, there’s not much you can do about that. No, I mean, I. I totally support them arresting a Chupacabra. Oh, yeah, me too. You know, that’d be great. Well, now, kind of going back into the United States. This is in carbon country, where this was, I think, I want to say, Oregon. Yeah. Wait, I’m not sure where that is, actually.
I thought this article mentioned it. So the next. So this next article, this happened. Oh, Utah. Utah. So same similar situation. This also happened within the last week. Livestock investigators are seeking information after a livestock owner found a bull dead and its reproductive organs mutilated, missing. In this case, they also found very suspicious circumstances around the death with the reproductive organs completely being removed and there was no tracks around the animal. This is. This is it here. I think they’re. They’re talking about it. Similar situation. Blood has been drawn and no blood around the animal, as far as I know.
It also was not the. No bugs. Other animals were eating its carcass. Just left there, wasn’t even really rotting. So similar situation. Now it’s interesting to note that last article, the guy was like, there’s not much of a smell. And I’m wondering the same thing in this case as well. And I wonder. So that was the first time I’ve really heard that, that some of these cattle mutilations don’t have a smell to them. But same thing. I mean they’re kind of like, well, if anyone has any information, you know, we want people to come forward. But the fact that they’re re, they’re, they’re removing the reproductive organs but leaving the meat.
Sorry. Hey, get down. My cat is crazy. Animal abuse. It’s like he want, he loves being around me. Yeah, I try to keep him outside and then he’s just meowing the whole time wanting to come in. So anyway, like it is what it is. But all right, anyway, so other factors. So. Yeah, so that’s the weirdest thing is that none of the other animals were feeding on the carcass. So they, they just have no idea what is going on here. You know, similar situation with this. There is a documentary that’s actually coming out and I, I think it’s coming out in 2025.
I think it already came out, but it could be wrong. It may not be out just yet. And it’s called Not One Drop of Blood. And it documents specifically cattle mutilation in Oregon. And this is by. So a reporter by the name of Anna King first heard about these ranchers and in Oregon who are finding bodies of cows and bulls drained of blood and mutilated. And she started to investigate this and she spent a long time investigating it. And the more she investigated it, the more she was telling everybody this is like the X Files, literally.
Now some of these photos are a little bit graphic, so I’m sorry you guys, but, but the point is the similar, same things are happening with these animals. Not a single drop of blood. And one thing she notes, and this is a long article and they interview her and everything else. But one thing she notes is that when you have a cow, a full size cow, you’re talking about liters upon liters of gallons of blood. If you were to, if someone were to drain that, you know, imagine carrying around like two five gallon jugs. And that’s, that’s, that’s the, that’s at least how much blood is in there, maybe even more blood than that.
So it’s not something you can one just drain all like quickly without spilling a drop. That’s that’s weird in itself. But the fact that there’s same thing, no tracks around these animals, no bugs, no other. Like she says, no coyotes, buzzards, ravens, bugs, nothing will go after these animals. And they just find. And she said the other thing is these animals are big. It usually takes a lot to kill them. It’s not like a single stab or, or even, you know, a gunshot will kill them. Usually they fall on the ground and are kind of suffering on the ground and kicking and squealing and stuff before they die.
She’s like, it’s not the case with these animals. It’s, it’s like they just fall dead right where they are. No signs of struggling, nothing. And then, and then all of them have their tongues removed, all of them have the reproduction reproductive organs removed and all of them have the blood removed. And some of them have a little bit, you know, and after, like, like some of them aren’t found for like a week and by that time the body kind of starts to decompose a little bit. But so, so, you know, so that’s why there could be like a hole or something like that.
And it’s more from the decomposing aspect of it, more so than, than that’s not, not how they died. But she’s like, think about carrying a five gallon bucket full of water, then add some protein to it. It’s really heavy. Yeah, think about a bull. You’d have to carry buckets, buckets of blood away from the scene and you’re in the middle of nowhere. So how in the heck are they doing this and not leaving a single track? No trace. No trace. So, and this other guy who’s part of the documentary, his name is Matt and he says that the sheriff in him, he’s like, we’ve mulled over ideas, devil worshippers, the occult, and basically he’s like, the only conclusion I can come to on my own, he’s like, my personal opinion is it’s aliens.
I don’t know how else to explain it. And it’s just, there’s no other explanation for this. And again, there’s, there, there are people that are killing and slaughtering animals and this is becoming a bigger aspect. Some ranchers are experiencing this. In fact, there are some articles talking about it. This is different from the cattle mutilations. Again, you know, they’re cutting the feet so they can’t move and then they’re taking the meat from the animal. The thing about these, and she points this out to this, this Ann King, Anna King points this Out. Like, these are prized cattle.
Why would somebody leave. Like, why would they take the reproductive organs in the tongue and leave the meat behind that makes no sense to her. And drain the blood? So it’s like you’re leaving the best part of the cow there to rot, but you’re taking everything else that’s not important to most humans. So why, you know. Well, and if the meat was left. Well, I don’t know about the case that they discussed, but if the meat is left, how is there no smell? Yeah, it would be rotting. Unless it was completely dried out entirely. Yeah, it’s very.
That would take, like, heat. Like you’re making jerky or something. Mm. Lindsay, I don’t know if you hope you. You. You showed the link, but can you maybe you did the. The documentary page. Yeah. So I’m not sure even where this is. Okay. The trailer is there. I don’t think it’s out yet. I was looking for it, and. And I couldn’t find it. So it just says. It’s. It just says 2025. So this film is not currently playing. So I, I guess it’s. It’s coming out soon. So it’s not released yet. But that will be very interesting.
I’m definitely interested to watching that because I think it sounds like they. They’ve really put a lot into this documentary and want to show it from different perspectives. I think a lot of the ranchers are a little bit more like, you know, I. From. From. Do. From doing the show as long as we have and covering this topic. I think a lot. A lot of ranchers are kind of more geared towards some kind of supernatural force. It’s just that they don’t want to sound crazy. And so I don’t think they really want to come out and say that to the media, but I think to each other, they’re.
They’re kind of. Because, I mean, if you’re ruling out everything else, okay, here’s the option. You know, here, here’s what, what, what we would know. Like somebody killed it, you know, or an animal got to it. But we can rule out both of those because it doesn’t fit into this killing. So. Well, then what’s left? Something supernatural or chupacabra or alien? So I, I, I mean, once you’re at that point, then it’s like, whoa, you know? But we, we actually. We did do our reptilian series that we did on Rise tv. This is one of the things we covered because there was a farmer that reportedly saw a reptilian with A couple grays taking one of their cows.
And we did cover a reptilian working with the grays, or the other way around, the grays working with the reptilians, or, you know, the reptilians kind of commanding the grays, I guess you could say, like they were doing all the dirty work in the. The. But basically the story, from what I remember, it’s in the episode, but there was like a triangular, like, completely silver, like, almost like a mirror craft that came down that you. You couldn’t really. Oh, no, it was like you couldn’t even really see it. It was more like. Think of like a mirror that opened up and then out came like a reptilian that was kind of standing there observing.
And then there was two grays. And then they had one of the cattle, and the cattle was just kind of frozen. And then they lead it into the craft, but it was like. It was almost like invisible. So they’re just walking into this invisible triangle, basically, and then everything just kind of disappeared. And that was personally what the farmer witnessed in. In one of these stories. And he was interviewed by many people and many things, and he’s like, it sounds totally nuts. I know how it sounds, but that’s what I saw. You know, I don’t know what to tell you otherwise.
And he’s like, I would love to have my cow back because it’s worth a lot of money. He’s like, I would not be making this up if, you know, losing a cat, a cow over this. He’s like, I wish it was just something easier and we can go after the person who did it, but not in this case. So weird. Yeah, but I mean, clearly this has been a thing. You know, there was. There’s been signs of. Of animal mutilation going all the way back into the 1600s. Believe it or not. I think that was one of the first references that we found was.
Was like some kind of published article from. From the King or something of England from the 1600s about goats, if I’m. If I’m not mistaken, but more of the mainstream aspect of things coming into the 1800s. In fact, it was a lot going on in the 1800s. They just. @ the time, they didn’t really understand what was happening. It really wasn’t until the 70s where cattle mutilation became a term. But if you start. But when I started looking back in old newspapers, this. This was happening all throughout the 1800s and 1900s. And there are cases where, like, one farmer recently, in the last year or two, he had a couple cows that, that they were finding dead, and it was very mysterious.
Well, it turned out it was poisoned water that they were drinking out of a local pond, and the water there was poisoned and that’s what was killing them. So I, I think, you know, in these cases, they were just dying. They. Their reproductive organs weren’t being removed and everything. So that was like a. An isolated case, specifically with these cattle mutilations. What I’m looking for is like, you know, missing blood, missing sexual organs, tongues removed and no, no explanation of death. And that was happening a lot, actually, in the early 1900s. So pretty wild stuff. And we got into that too in, in that episode at the cattle mutilations is some of, like how.
How some of these stories that go back into the 1800s, so pretty wild. Well, Rob, do you want to. Why don’t you tell us about our coffee right now? Sure. Yeah. We have Metaphysical coffee. So if you guys are looking for a way to support us and you like excellent coffee, you just need to go to metaphysical coffee.com and get your bag of Metaphysical Coffee. We’ve included the shipping for free on this. We don’t make a lot of money off of it, and I guarantee you won’t be disappointed. So if you’re looking for your mornings to be interstellar, you should totally check out our metaphysical coffee.
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Buried newspaper reports, firsthand witnesses, questionable drawings, and even photos that will make you question, is it? Get real? So is this all a giant hoax? Or is there actually something to this reptilian agenda? Join Edge of Wonder for a series on the real reptilian sightings in history. We’re shining a light on this shadowy system that has been in operation since the creation of the first light bulb. The real name of this deceitful practice is planned obsolescence, in which products are designed to need replacement within a certain Period of time instead of lasting forever. Right, because how would Apple make money if they made an iPhone that lasts forever? We’d all stop buying the new model that’s released every year or the latest Apple Watch and these companies would stop increasing their revenue year over year.
Yeah, because we all definitely need that single upgraded feature that’s only available within the newest, most expensive Apple Watch, iPhone, iPad, EarPods or whatever it is. And ever notice how our printers just randomly seem to fail after about two years or two prints? If it’s my printer, how about the other products like fridges, vacuums, air conditioning units, cars, toasters? Is this really just a coincidence or is it all plain? Apple is just the tip of the iceberg here. So let’s go back to the beginning of how this plan to make your household items obsolete. All got started with the light bulb.
Tell us a little bit about that. Yeah, so that’s going to be our new series that’s coming out on Rise tv all about the light bulb conspiracy. So because there is a light bulb that is in California right now that’s been on since 1904 or something like that. And how in the world is a light bulb still functioning for more than 120 years? So we get into what is going on with products. Are they purposely designed to fail? And what we uncovered was pretty mind boggling, especially when it comes to the light bulb. How they were purposely designed a very specific way in order to last precisely 10,000 hours.
Nothing less, nothing more. And they had a whole team. And so anyway, we get into all that and then coming into companies today, especially Apple, more so in Part two. And where are where. You know, one thing you don’t think of is like when you have old electronics laying around and you recycle them, where do they go to? Well, we get into that and what we found out was probably one of the most shocking things that I found in a long time. After doing this show for a few years, it was, I’m like, how in the world is no one talking about this? So everyone’s talking about climate change.
No one’s talking about where our recycled products go. I know where they go. They go into the trash because they can’t be recycled. Not our trash though. Different countries. Trash. Yeah, true. And it’s pretty bad, but. And that’s what we found. And specifically in Africa. And we get into all that without ruining the episode there. But it’s pretty wild. It really is. All right, well, moving on from cattle mutilations to space, you know, I mean I, I think that these kind of go hand in hand because we’re, you know, we’re kind of talking about aliens here.
A general theme of things. So let’s find out what’s going on. So I, I, I. So, you know, there’s a lot of, there’s a lot of things out there where, where people are like, hey, look, this is, there’s something to this, you know, so Voyager 2, stop transmission, stop transmitting. And of course it sparked all kinds of theories, you know. So I kind of wanted to look into this with a little bit more open mind, not jump to the conclusion. It’s like, oh, it’s aliens are involved. You know, just because something malfunctions could just be. It’s old and it’s NASA, you know.
So I found this article and honestly, the more I started looking into this article, I was just kind of annoyed by it. It doesn’t really give any kind of. It’s like, you know, like this. Dude, that is the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man. Or it reminds me of something with like, what is it? Saw or one of those horror movies. In fact, I think that’s where it came from. And it’s like, you know, Fox News. And it’s like, well, that’s fake. That is 100 fake, you know, so already this article kind of brings up red flags, and it’s just kind of talking about some kind of mathematical equation using AI.
And it figured out that the, the transmission, you know, was stopped on purpose. But it doesn’t give any kind of reference. They even made a video. The video is like super vague. All using all AI, AI, voice, AI, everything, you know. So it’s like, yeah, okay. I don’t know if I buy this, you know, so let’s go into the science of things first and then we’ll kind of come back to like a little bit more in the middle of everything, but. So NASA’s Voyager 1 and 2 hasn’t spoken. And this happened last year with Voyager 1.
There was a communication glitch preventing NASA’s Voyager to. NASA sent a signal. And I guess it was the wrong signal or something. They did something wrong anyway. And all of a sudden it stopped working. So. And Voyager 1 is like the furthest object that’s ever been, you know, in this cycle of humanity. It’s the furthest thing that’s passed any anywhere in our solar system. I think right now it says it’s somewhere around like 20, 30 billion miles from Earth, which is quite so it’s far beyond the edge of the solar system, but it was still sending signals back, but now not so much.
So same thing. So Business Insider then had an article about Voyager 2 and Voyager 2, same thing happen. It was sending something about it lost contact after sending a wrong command. And so Voyager 1, it was like they were getting weird things from it. Voyager 2, supposedly they sent the wrong command. Then I found this article. This article is the most in depth article. I, I, I’m, it was just crazy in depth that whoever wrote this article, and it wasn’t written by AI because they, they put a ton, and tonight, ton, a ton of research into this thing and it goes into the science aspect.
So this is kind of what I was looking for. Kind of somewhere in between both. And it says the moment Voyager altered its course without any command from Earth, every assumption about deep space exploration began to unravel. That’s, that’s, that’s kind of what it starts off with. So it goes into both aspects, you know, so what’s going on with NASA? And according to NASA, it was just like it was kind of sending back gibberish, didn’t really make any sense. And then it just kind of stopped sending signals after that. And now it’s just like, you know, traveling far into distant space.
But there was a signal that was transmitted and this goes into like it was, it was kind of a, it was not designed to last this long. I guess it was a long signal and they were trying to analyze it. This actually went into, it was analyzed by CERN in March of 2025 and they said that, I mean, according to this article, it gets into a long detailed scientific aspect of it, but it explores the possibility that the signal could be potentially a neutrino based response to Voyager’s golden record could indicate contact with some kind of intelligent entity.
And again, you know, neutrinos kind of caught my attention with this article because as we know, neutrinos do defy the laws of physics. They can pass through any kind of physical matter and they seem to not have the same boundaries as our physical world. Meaning that the neutrinos could also be in two places at once. They found the best way to communicate is through neutrinos into inter, like interstellar space and long missions and everything else. So that’s what I thought was very fascinating. Now this kind of gets into the quantum realm of, because the thing is, and this is why this is what I found kind of fascinating, you know, and this is more of like a theory more than trying to say this is proof of what’s going on, but we have no idea really what’s out there.
Right. This thing is super far. It went past our solar system in our interstellar space. We have this interstellar object that’s now coming, you know, close towards us. Towards. Yes, yeah. Which. Which I have some updates on that, too. So it’s saying that, you know, it could potentially. And then it gets into two qubits and bits. And how they believe that Voyager was sending information through qubits, which would be like, for the quantum computers, quantum computer aspect. So, in other words, they needed CERN to kind of decode the message because it was coming back in a quantum state, because maybe it passed through some field.
I mean, this article even gets into the fact that it’s quite possible that there’s some kind of Dyson shell or some kind of interstellar extraterrestrial structure that’s potentially out there that might have, like, came into contact with Voyager, might even have scanned it to see what it was. I mean, think about this. This interstellar object, if this is a potential craft, it would have encountered Voyager before we. We. We saw it in space, right? Like maybe even years ago, a couple years ago, it could have encountered Voyager. It could have scanned Voyager. It could have sent some kind of message.
That message could have came back to Earth. They may not even have known what, what came back. It was like, oh, it’s just gibberish, you know, and. And just like, okay, it’s malfunctioning and we’ll just delete it. Or it’s quite possible NASA did recognize something. Like, hey, this is actually this message coming back in binary. It’s not in just binary code. It’s in, like, in a quantum state code through neutrinos, no less. I mean, then. Then all of a sudden, it’s just like this. There’s no way this is some random thing that’s coming through. So I know this is more like theoretical in this aspect.
I mean, unfortunately, we don’t have any hard evidence, but we do know that it was sending some kind of message, that NASA said it was just a coded message and then just cut it off after that. And then it’s like, they’re like, oh, now we don’t have any more contact with it. It’s just going to be floating out there. So, Ben, you know, the details are interesting, but what do you think is going on? I. I think that I. I do think in some aspects, I mean, okay, it is quite possible it malfunctioned. This thing is old.
This thing was built what was launched in 70s. You know, it’s very old. The, the, the, the, the technology that it’s sending back is so outdated. You know, they have to keep a, they have to keep a certain computer and everything to, to talk to it. Because it’s so old, the technology where, where it’s like people are amazed that it’s lasted this long. So it’s possible that it could have malfunctioned. But I think in this case, the fact that it’s out in interstellar space, it’s gone so far beyond our solar system. I, in and what we know, especially around Saturn, especially around like, you know, there seems to be some kind of crafts objects.
Obviously we’re seeing UFOs in the sky. I would think at this point point that any extraterrestrial craft would have, would have scanned it at some point just to see what it is, what was going on. And I do think that information potentially came back to Earth. I think that there’s a whole lot of information that NASA is covering up. You know, we already know that from photos, especially on the moon, certain events that they had, all kinds of things. NASA’s been covered. I mean, NASA’s been covering things up, you know, for, for, since the inception. Yeah, that’s why NASA was created, allegedly.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, and it was, you know, Warner Von Braun was the head of it, who was the head of the Nazi aspect of the space program. So it’s like, it’s like, it’s like already the foundation is not a great thing. So clearly, if anything. Okay, I’ll say this. And if anything did come through through, of course NASA would not let us know. So I, I think it’s very probably like very probable that something happened. And we also have no idea the gravitational aspect of things. And that’s what this article gets into as well. They call it gravitational lensing phenomenon.
And because it’s, it’s having some, the gravitational pull and effect and we, we have no idea, you know, it passes another planet, that gravitational pull could be different. Like we, we could ex. It could be experiencing time in a completely different way than what we know. So even though it’s, it’s out there, it could be, it could be experiencing time around it and a way faster pace than us. And if that’s the case, it’s quite possible that it could be in multiple states. If it passed through some kind of time field or even gravitational field where that was affected, which is how the quantum state would come in at this point.
So I think there’s so many things that we just don’t understand about space. And, and so anyway, in a nutshell, I do think that there’s. There’s some kind of extraterrestrial aspect to this right now. Whether or not that signal itself was extraterrestrial, you know, is another question, but I do think that there’s some. Something around this. But what, what do you think, Rob? Sorry, long winded question. No, that’s okay. I mean, there’s a couple of things here that I think are important to bring up. I mean, this is technology. And no matter how buttoned up your technology is, it malfunction.
Malfunctions from time to time. So there’s kind of no getting around it. It’s just, what do you do and what are the systems in place to work with that? You know, I mean, how many times are you on your computer and just something isn’t working the way that it should be, and the only way to fix it is to reboot? Right? That happens like once a week maybe, you know, So I do think that there could be some type of technical thing that’s going on, but the fact that the transmission completely stopped and the most bizarre thing you brought up is the qubits.
I mean, qubits were only discovered fairly recently with quantum computers. With quantum computers. And they think that they created this thing, but actually they discovered it. So we don’t know what kind of technology is out there that revolves around qubits. And I think if something did come back in qubit form, this would potentially be none other than aliens knowing the technology here, or extraterrestrials or extra dimensional beings knowing the capabilities of humans here and then sending something back because we have the capability to, you know, to translate it now. So that’s super bizarre. I mean, that whole thing is super bizarre.
Yeah. So Lindsay says it was actually the 90s that qubits were discovered, which makes sense because that’s kind of when they unraveled the full mystery of neutrinos. I mean, they knew about neutrinos coming into the 60s, but they didn’t really fully understand the potential of neutrinos and what they were doing and defying the laws of physics really until the 90s. And there was a lot of articles written in like 93, 94 that were just like, you know, they’re written in a very, almost like scientific or sci fi kind of way, because you’re like, whoa, neutrinos is just like, could this test everything we know, we think we know about physics and in reality, it’s like.
Yeah. And you know, this, this article also mentions that another possibility without getting into the alien aspect, that it could have, there could be some kind of magnetic anomaly or maybe like a dead star or some kind of interstellar cloud that it passed through and then it was trying to protect itself. And so that could be also mixed signals that were coming through. Yeah, all of which is totally possible in outer space. I mean, we don’t know what’s out there. Right, right. But, but either way, you know, I think that this, this interstellar object that’s coming through now.
I think that, that you’re talking about 3i Atlas. Yes. Yeah, we were calling it 30. I was calling it 30 one last time because I thought that’s what it was. And it was 3i. But you know, and it’s weird because before we jump over to the other platform, I do want to just mention one thing about this, is that there was a path of its trajectory and it doesn’t seem to be in a straight like. So if this thing was a comet, it just seems it would be following like a, either like a continuous path, a straight line, and it doesn’t seem to be that case.
Lindsay, can you click on this map? Yeah, here. So this is, this is where it started from and where it’s going. So again, this is why Avi Loeb and a lot of other scientific people are saying that the probability of this thing coming from that far into space, going to Earth is, is nearly impossible. That’s Avi Lo there. And I think it was like, I, you know, point zero. I think they. Even now it was like 0.0005 and it might be like 0.0002. He, he actually wrote a, an update Avi Loeb did on medium just, just a couple days ago.
Yeah, like six days ago. A few days ago. And he, he, he’s just, he’s talking about the, the nickel aspect and basically that what they’re finding is that the comet has nickel without iron in cyanide and it’s in the plume. So it’s impossible. If there was, if it was a comet, you would find Nick nickel iron. You would find all of it. And because that’s the gas that it’s giving off and it’s, you know. So in other words, without going into like great detail on the scientific aspect of things, in a nutshell, is basically coming to the conclusion it has to be engineering.
It’s the only thing that makes sense because there’s nothing that, that would, there’s there’s no, like, object that’s naturally forming that would do that without having some kind of extra force or extra. Like, he’s saying engineering aspect to it, to design it, like, something had to build this thing, in other words. So he doesn’t say it in those words, but like I said, he goes into great detail and he’s like, you know, that starts out saying, like, I would be happy if this thing is a comment, but it doesn’t fit the comment model. And here is what, why it doesn’t fit.
And so then he goes into great detail about it. So truly, truly interesting. As I think as it gets closer, we’re gonna. We’re gonna see more and more. We’re gonna hear more and more about it too. So. Yeah, we. We just did a podcast for Metaphysical. We recorded it on the interstellar objects that have been coming into the solar system, and John remote viewed them, and it’s crazy, dude. That’s cool. Way crazy. It’s way crazier than I thought. Yeah, that makes sense to me. That. I mean, that’s what I think. And that’s why, like, we going back to the Voyager things.
Yeah, I’m sure they passed it. You know, that could be why it. Well, obviously it changed directory trajectory like earlier on. But, you know, I. I guarantee, you know, it’s quite. I really feel like this thing probably passed it and scanned it or. Or was curious to see what was going on with it, you know, and it was probably trying to communicate with it and that signal came back to Earth and they’re like, yeah, but they. They already. I don’t know. There’s part of me that’s like, this is. It’s an antique out there in space in terms of technology.
Right. So whatever they did was intentional. It’s true that. What is the message is the question. Yeah, and it’s odd that both of them stop working. You know, it’s like I can see one, and I mean, one of them. They said they accidentally sent it the wrong command and then it, like, turned the wrong way and. And now they lost contact with it. Right. You know, like, it just seems that you would be way more careful with that. Like, who did that? Why? How? You know, too many questions, not enough answers. Anyway. All right, you guys, well, we’re going to jump over to Rise TV now and we’re going to get into your questions that you had in our live chat.
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What if I told you that not only have we been visited by extraterrestrials, but that our own military has in their possession crafts along with alien bodies hidden from the public? Well, join me, Ben, on the second part of this Edge of Wonder episode with my special guest, Michael Schratt, who is a private pilot and aviation historian and has been investigating UFO encounters for over 28 years. Lab coat technicians talking about bodies recovered and one was still alive. And when I heard this from Charlotte, I said, I got it. I got it. Wow. I got it.
Now I know that this guy was telling the truth. I got it. In our last episode, we went into detail about how the US secretly has alien craft and documented testimonials on first hand accounts of not only seeing crafts, but but alien bodies as well. In this episode, Michael will be presenting the most mind blowing account he has, which includes multiple witnesses. You won’t believe what he has. So without further ado, let me introduce Michael Schratt.
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