Summary
➡ The text discusses the history of automata in early societies, including their prevalence in churches and serving as religious artifacts. It also thoroughly explores the legend of Descartes’ philosophical works and his “robotic daughter”, the 16-century infant Jesus of Prague statue reportedly speaking to monks, and the association of these artifacts with religious mysticism and potential demonic possession.
➡ The discussion primarily focuses on the speculation of a character termed ‘the little red man’, exploring its possible connections to historical events and symbols such as the Declaration of Independence and the French coat of arms. The character, seen as a haunting archetypal figure, is also likened to the ‘Napoleon Homunculi.’ The conversation also navigates various topics including folklore, Neoplatonism, alchemy, and Jungian psychology.
➡ The discussion centers around occult orders and their practices, particularly the Rosicrucian movement, Christian mysticism, and the influence of imagery. It mentions the possibility of sacred knowledge being passed down through secret societies, and how this knowledge may get diluted over time. Specific figures, such as Teresa of Avila, Rudolph Steiner, and Jacob Berm, and their contributions to mystical practices are examined. There’s also analysis of how concepts too complex for verbal language may be conveyed through images and meditative practices.
➡ The text discusses the life and work of Carl Jung, focusing on his interest in mysticism and alchemy. It explores Jung’s early work on active imagination and automatic writing, his belief that alchemists were the first self-help practitioners and his theories being significantly informed by mystical vision and dream encounters. The text also details Jung’s interaction with the alchemical work of Gerard Dorn, which aided Jung in his development of active imagination and synchronicities. It uncovers the application of alchemy in creating practical commercial products like porcelain, the advancement of modern medicine and its symbolic implications, similar to biblical interpretations. Also, it references the monolith with a homunculus, located at Jung’s property, Bollingen Tower, with engravings related to alchemy.
➡ The text details a thorough discussion about different elements of alchemical beliefs and symbolism, bringing together several connections from different cultures and time periods. It presents the discussion of a cube depicting telesphorus, a homunculus god traditionally associated with healing, and the presence of alchemical symbols that represent Saturn, Mars, Jupiter, and Venus. The text further explores the depth of the homunculus in different cultures, its representation in alchemy and connection to other entities, alongside debates about religious texts and numerical symbolism.
➡ The text speculates on the likelihood of Francis Bacon being the real Shakespeare and discusses conceivable theories supporting this claim. The speaker brings up different points concerning Shakespeare’s personal life, his education, the absence of his handwriting, and lack of clear authorial rights to his works suggesting that Bacon, an educated and widely traveled figure, could have authored his supposed works. They also touch on the foundation of Freemasonry and the standardization of the English language by Bacon and Shakespeare.
➡ The conversation discusses the mystic theories of Rudolph Steiner, where he associates the Gospel of John with Rosicrucians and other secret societies; believing it to hold secrets of future Christianity. Through practice and meditation, these societies aimed to relive the gospels within their dreams. Steiner also claims that certain biblical figures like Lazarus and John were initiates, undergoing transformative, often symbolic death experiences, much like ancient initiation rites. Lastly, they talk about the idea of the Pyramids being used for initiation, tying to why no mummies have been found in them.
➡ The text discusses the symbolic interpretation and alchemical allegories found in biblical stories such as Lazarus’s resurrection. It also explores the idea of initiation rituals in secret societies like Freemasonry, connecting them to historical theatre. The text further links alchemical concepts to various secret society initiation stages, including symbolic acts like foot washing and crown of thorns placement. The presence of a guardian, a physical double of oneself, at a certain stage of initiation is also mentioned.
➡ The text discusses the process of spiritual initiation through dream-states as practiced by secret societies, drawing upon concepts from Greek mythology, Christian mysticism, and alchemical symbolism. The ultimate aim is to induce an awareness of one’s inherent divinity and unity with the cosmos. Important figures in history, like Napoleon Bonaparte, are speculated to have undergone similar experiences.
➡ Napoleon held a firm belief in superstitions, omens, and perceived luck sources, such as Josephine and his ‘lucky star’, often associating positive events with their influence. Amid these, he also held fears of the number 13 and Fridays. A recurring figure in his experiences is the ‘red man’, a phantom believed to be a prophecy-bringing gnome-like being, also reported by earlier French royalty, and associated with superstitions in French and Michigan folklore.
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Available now from Paranoid American. Get your copy@tjojp. com or paranoidamerican. com today, welcome to the one on one podcast with your host, Juan Ayala. And like you said, when they’re pondering on these images, the way that Jung was practicing active imagination was to let an image come to you. And he actually said to do this when you’re in a bad mood or when you have some sort of overwhelming emotion.
I think a lot of times that would be like anger, like, you’re really pissed off. And he said, that’s actually a really good time to do active imagination, just to sit down and be like, all right, what image comes in my head with this anger? Where does this lead me? Some sort of picture in your head? Obviously, the alchemist had these pictures in front of them. They didn’t have to necessarily dream them up, but he would sit there and let something come to him, and then, like you said, he would enter into the image.
The process of active imagination is not just to watch a movie in your head. It’s to actually break the barrier and step into. You see the image, you let it sort of animate, and then you step into it as a subject. Welcome back. To another episode of the one on one podcast. Your host as always, Juan. Make sure to follow the show social media at the one on one podcast, pretty much any social media platform.
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We’re joined by Professor Longo from the Longo bros. What’s up, dude? What’s going on, man? How are you doing? All right. It’s been a little bit since we got together, so I figured, hey, let’s do this again. You hit me up with a new species of homunculi that I was very excited that we’re going to probably be talking about tonight. But what have you been up to, dude? What have you been researching? What have you been reading? What rabbit holes have you been going down? Well, I told you last time you had me on by myself that I’ve started a publishing company called Galloclass Books, and I’ve mainly been researching for the first book that we’re putting out.
It’s a collection. It’s going to be called Monad, and it’s a collection of neoplatonists writings. So there’s platinus and porphyry and Proclus in there, and I can’t put the book out without having read all of it and really diced it up and digested it. So I’ve mainly been having to do that as a little bit of a homework assignment, but it’s been really fulfilling and rewarding, and I’m excited that books should probably be out in the next six weeks, something like that, two months.
So, yeah, that’s mainly what I’ve been up to. I’ve been reading other stuff too, though. Did you translate these or were these already translated and you’re just printing them? Yeah. So these are the top tier translations by Thomas Taylor. So they were done in the late 17 hundreds. And he was a living Platonist. Like, he was not a scholar. He was not like a professor of ancient Greek or something.
He was a platonist himself. So he was a monist Platonist, like, through and through. And he also is considered the greatest translator of ancient Greek to English ever so his translations are underappreciated in the modern era and under printed for sure. And if I showed you a side by side with the modern translations, you would laugh. I mean, that’s almost hilarious. This guy is the guy to be reading if you’re reading Plato, Aristotle and the Neoplatonists, because he translated all their complete works.
So go check him out and obviously check our book out because it’s all his translations. Yeah, this guy, I came across another Thomas Taylor that did that book that. I think I talked to you about it. There’s another Thomas Taylor of the voyage to the. Let me see here. Voyage, the world of Cartesius. There was also another Thomas Taylor that here, see video on that, right? Yeah, we did a whole video on it.
So. In English by T. Taylor. But when I first saw that, I thought that it was the Taylor, right? Yeah. And apparently it’s not, because. Interesting. Let’s see here. Was he 17th century? No, more 18th century. So there’s this guy here. Interesting. Also translating. You see here, it’s in the name. Yeah. There’s something, dare I say, talismanic of this Thomas the TT name. Right? This guy was also a priest.
So there’s something definitely going on with that name. And I want to say it was this cat or it might have been. Might have been our other Thomas. Oh, here. Yeah, Taylor, Thomas. My bad. Whoops. It’s all same thing. Same thing. Same thing. So again, there’s definitely something about the tt. So it was this guy here. Very interesting. And his father was known as a friend to Puritans and silence ministers.
Wow, interesting. So this was the guy that translated that work of Cartesius, which is a story essentially about Renek Carr. You can check it out. I think it’s. I want to say it’s the occult book club number ten, which, dude, I’d love to have you on that show with like an obscure book that you’ve come across. Got plenty. I would love to do that. We can read it, break it down.
But this book here, the interesting part about this book is that it’s essentially a story about how renedic Carr had figured out how to project his consciousness outwards into outer space. And this is actually the first time ever that the term outer space is used in the Sci-Fi sense. And this was published in 1694, I think was the english version. And the interesting part about that, because you talked about monadology and the monads.
Well, in my studies of the various alchemical rabbit holes that I find myself going down, I actually found out that the father of modern day binary code, Godfrey Leibniz, who wrote monadology, he was actually going around and he was kind of sort of obsessed with stories of transmutation. Have you heard about that before? I’ve heard about, you know, his contemporary. Like, Newton was himself, like, full on occultist hermeticist.
So it seems to sort of be the norm at that point in time. And they were definitely hard to say if that was what was aiding them in their discoveries or if they were maybe just unearthing stuff that had been around, like in secret in the Rosicrucians and things like that. It’s very possible, especially with live knits, because that’s something that has always interested me. There’s these works.
So this book here from 16, whatever, 1694, whatever it was. Yeah. So printed for Thomas Ben in 1694. This is supposedly a story, right? It’s a story from another guy with two first names. So you have Gabriel, Daniel, so very biblical. And then Taylor Thomas is kind of sort of two first names there. But this idea of Descartes, and I think that he was onto something. Now, you can’t really find anything relating him with alchemy, but I don’t know if you’ve ever heard.
Have you ever read the secret notebook of Benedict cart? Have you ever read that? No. So we carry it in the bookstore, and I know that I’ve seen you talk about it, and I always look at it like, I’ll see it on the shelf and be like, I’m going to visit that one day. Because it’s really. I know a lot, though, about. Because I’ve watched your episode on Descartes.
I don’t forgot who you did it with, but yeah, I watched that one, and that was fascinating. The dreams he’s having, visions, all that kind of stuff is incredible. Are you talking about the one that I did with the stoicism guy? Forgot his name? Jeez. I don’t remember who you did it with, but his name escapes me. Yeah, I did a whole episode on Descartes. It was only a section of Descartes, though, because Descartes philosophy is so vast, and it’s another one that’s always captivated me.
And I feel like there’s more to his story than what mainstream history has led on. And this book here, a voice to the world of Cartesius, really filled in some gaps as to the story of Cartesian. And you got to read that book, the secret notebook of Descartes. It’s such a mind blowing read. It’s like Banger after Banger after Banger after Banger. And then the fact that he was messing around with Automaton, too.
I don’t know if you ever heard that story that he had, like a robotic daughter, essentially. Yeah, I’ve heard things like that. Insane. Because back then they had this whole thing with automatons in churches, bro. They had like entire devils that are. Let me pull up this picture here of this devil that was. And I think Prague was known for that, too. Yeah, they were like mechanical birds and cloths and things.
Well, when you had me on and we’re talking about the byzantine empire, I remember telling you, because people don’t know that, that the Byzantines had automata. I mean, more than a thousand years ago, which is insane. They had lions, like, next to the throne of the emperor that would roar. They had. How terrifying this thing is. Golden birds and things. I mean, it’s unbelievable. Yeah, that thing is horrifying.
You’re kind of cranking his dick here, bro. They put it right there where his song would be. Do you think that was done on purpose? No, I’m kidding. 100% on purpose. No way you could put that anywhere. Or you could put on the back and they put on the front right where his wiener would be. So this thing here, let me find where the name of Italian. So it’s from the 16th century, and it’s from wonder cammer of Ludo, Vico, Satala.
So tomato. Were theologically and culturally familiar things with which one could be on easy terms. They were funny sometimes body. And they were everywhere. Mechanical devils were rife, poised in sacrates. How do you say that word? Sacrates? Sacristes, man. We’re just getting warmed up, ladies and gentlemen, so we’re going to get some words wrong. They made horrible faces, howled and stuck out their tongues to instill fear in the hearts of sinners.
The Satan machines rolled their eyes and fled their arms and wings. Some even had movable horns and crowns. A muscular, crank operated devil with sharply pointed ears and wild eyes remains in residence of castellos for Seco in Milan. And this is an interesting family, this for the Sforza family, which Catherine of Sforza. She was also one of the first women alchemists. I’m going to be doing an episode on her soon.
She has a really interesting. This. This whole automata of this was. A lot of people thought that these things were actually possessed by demons. Yeah, I would believe it if I was. If it was the 15 hundreds. Crazy. Let’s look up. We never talked about this, too, when we talked about Prague is the infant Jesus of Prague. It’s like a famous statue. I don’t think we talked about it.
No, we didn’t. This looks like a cart. Hold up. Oh, no, this guy is. Yeah, there’s some stuff here. All right, so the infant Jesus. Yeah, infant. Whoa, Jesus. That’s a good wikipedia. If anyone’s bored, just go read that Wikipedia page. The creepy little statue. Look how small it is, too, bro. Dude, the stories are wild. We actually have a portrait of it in the store. And it has power.
For sure. There’s something to it. I don’t know what the power is, but it has some sort of gravity to it that’s like portraits of it. And things are very alluring. What? Yeah, it’s odd. And that statue, it’s an icon because this is eastern Christianity. So they pray to that and offer devotions to it and stuff. It’s very much like idolatrous, even though it’s supposed to be Jesus.
And the stories on the Wikipedia are wild. Like monks who hear it, like talking to them in their head and telling them to do stuff. At one point it got destroyed in the 16 hundreds. I think this is all top of the dome, but 16 or 1700 through the stories. Yeah. So it gets destroyed. Sorry. If you can hear my dog speaking, it’s probably annoying. So we have here, because I remember you talking to me about that, that day that I was at the store and I had looked it up briefly while we were there.
So it’s Ninja Jesus de Praga, 16th century. Wax coated wooden statue of child Jesus holding a globus crusader, of course. And this is crazy, bro, because I was watching a documentary on Prague the other day, because I want to go, bro. I want to go to Prague. Prague is like one of those places that it is magical, right? And I didn’t know that the origins of the crater, because you gave me that piece of moldavite, which Prague is rich in.
Moldavite. The lure of that crater at Prague that hit and spread that moldivite around, supposedly that meteor or that asteroid, whatever you want to call it, was a stone that fell off the crown of Lucifer and it fell down to earth and it crashed. Or some dinarian stuff, sounds like. But yeah, it did. It created the Prague basin that Prague is in. Like, it’s a big valley and it has moldivite everywhere.
It’s like in the soil of Prague. It’s amazing. But so the infant Jesus gets destroyed and it’s missing its arms. And. And it’s one day, I think it was, like, in a pile of rubble or something. And one of the monks, because this is after war, one of the monks is just walking around, they’re, like, trying to rebuild the church or whatever, and he hears a voice in his head, like, calling out, and it’s saying, give me back my arms.
Put me back together and put, like, find me, basically. It’s so creepy when you think about it. Even though this is supposed to be like a Jesus statue, I mean, it sounds like. Sounds demonic. Yeah, it sounds like a little demon baby. Like, give me my arms. Like a little. Yeah. And then ever since they did put it back together and it’s still worshipped by people from all over the world that go and visit Prague.
But there’s so many other stories. That’s, like the first one, but there’s so many other stories of visions and hearing it talk, like, in your head and really from. Is there a book on it? Right? There’s a book on it. Right. The history. So one legend says that a monk in a desolated monastery somewhere between Cordoba and Seville had a vision of a little boy telling him to pray.
The monk had spent several hours praying, and then he made a figure of the child. And this is so weird because they use it for rituals, too. And the house of Habsburg began ruining the kingdom of Bohemia in 1526. The kingdom developed close ties with Spain. The statue first appeared in 1556, when Maria Maximiliana Marinkes Delara and Mendoza brought the image to Bohemia upon her marriage to Zech, nobleman of this guy’s name, vistrilslov of perstine.
An old legend in the family reports that Maria’s mother, Donya Isabella, had been given the statue by Teresa of Avila herself. Maria received the family heirloom as a wedding present in 1587. She gave it to her daughter, Polyxena of Lapkowisks. Whatever. As a wedding present. And then. Here we go. Give me the juice. So the oratory, which is an interesting thing with alchemists as well, place an oratory in the monastery of Our lady of victory, Prague, where special devotions to Jesus were offered before it twice a day.
What a weird thing to. So it’s so strange, like, what is going on? And even the Teresa of Avila, she’s a super interesting character. So if it did come from her, that would be even crazier because she’s a christian mystic nun. Really? Yeah, she’s really important. She claims to have two straight years of visions of Jesus in the body, like all kinds of crazy imagery. There’s books about her and stuff that are good and it’s another rabbit hole.
But if it’s tied to her, I mean, that’s even crazier, because here’s the thing with certain denominations, right? You have Catholicism, you have Christianity, you have all these different versions. And when I grew up christian, this was all demonic. You couldn’t worship idols, all this other stuff. And you have certain denominations of certain sects of whatever that do worship these. And what I’m seeing here is a pattern of, like, for example, this Theresa Avila person who was a christian mystic, which we know christian mysticism is tied to the Rosicrucia movement.
And all these different. Right. All these different occult orders that stem from that same ideology, essentially. And what I see going on here is that perhaps these people, like, the first in their order, if you will, they had knowledge and practices that perhaps weren’t passed down. Because if you look at, like, nuns and monks and all these, they’re like secret societies, essentially, right? But the knowledge, I guess, gets diluted.
This is my personal opinion, gets diluted within these organizations. And they’re not going to pass down this sacred knowledge of maybe, perhaps, I don’t know, imbuing this little statue with a spirit of some angel or something. Because what else are you going to do with. It’s like the genie in the bottle. The genie’s inside this thing. He’s trapped. What was that? I just finished seeing something where I was reading something where they were trying to convince.
Oh, Beetlejuice, right? Beetlejuice tells you, like, hey, say my name three times, and you have to do what that thing says to bring it into this realm. And I saw this real about. It was like she would say, beetlejuice. Beetlejuice. And then, because at the end, she wouldn’t say the third Beetlejuice. So he couldn’t come into existence. Or it just. It makes me think of that and it being some sort of talisman.
And I’ve never heard of this Teresa character. Oh, yeah, she’s big time. And Steiner, Rudolph Steiner, who’s a christian mystic, he also had things where he said certain portraits of the Madonna, so of Mary and Jesus had healing powers, like just on their own as a painting. And so it’s a similar sort of thing. And he was a rosicrucian. It was very possible that these christian mystical practices were passed down in secret.
And they’re ecstatic. So they rely on mystical experience, ecstasy, things that maybe aren’t for the masses or aren’t easy to convey in language and put into a book Jacob Berm and all kinds of other people who have had these mystical experiences as and with christian imagery and everything, and they kind of just get ignored by the mainstream. But it does exist. Absolutely, without a doubt. So though there are no written historical accounts establishing that Teresa of Avila ever owned the famous infant Jesus of Prague statue, according to tradition, such a statue is said to have been in her possession.
Teresa is reputed to have given it to a noble woman traveling to Prague. The age of the statue dates to approximately the time as Teresa. It has been thought that Teresa carried a portable statue of the child Jesus wherever she went. The idea circulated in the earth. So you touched on something that’s important to this sect of religion, for lack of a better term, where they are very heavily influenced by imagery.
Right, so they are. You ever heard of the Rothschild cantacles? You ever looked at that book before? Rothschild canticles? I don’t think so. It’s an illuminated manuscript, I believe is what it is. And it’s at Yale, of course, right? Because Yale has all the cool stuff in there. And this has one of the weirdest depictions of. I call it Cthulhu tentacle Jesus, because check this out, bro. This is a depiction of the Trinity.
Okay? They are depicting. Let me find here. Let me find a good picture of it. They are depicting. So check this out. It’s like, almost like a wormhole butthole looking thing with some tentacles coming out of it. And then right here, check this out. So this is supposed to be rays of light, of course, but it looks just really weird. And what these plates were serving as, they were just that they were devices for you to meditate upon, for you to be able to become one with the source.
So to get. To come together with the right to get closer with the godhead. But check this out. It’s, like very bizarre imagery. Yeah, very weird. Right. Well, if you think about Jacob Berm, too, the christian mystic, his books are filled with imagery, and they are. Know, a lot of people think that it’s probably because these sort of experiences cannot be put into language. They are the unspeakable, the unconscious.
Yeah. And it’s just outside of what we can describe, we don’t have words for what you’re seeing. And like a dream, too, when you come back from the dream, it’s very difficult to describe what it was you sort of get. And so I think images are used a lot of the time to convey that. Yeah. I mean, Terrence McKenna thought that we were going to have an archaic revival through psychedelics, which would bring us back to a sort of ecstatic, mystical based religion based on psychedelics, which would sort of tear the fabric of literacy and language and like this sort of cage that we’re in.
I’m not saying it’s negative, but that western and eastern culture now is tied into, it’s all print based literacy, linguistics, everything like that. And we have very little relationship with the shamanic, the mystical experience. And he thought that psychedelics were going to bring us back to that, and through doing that, that they were going to sort of melt language, and we were going to come up with some sort of new form of language using images, which, by the way, images are so much more effective than language.
They’re intuitive, and you can show something and just immediately know what it is instead of having to read a whole. You know what it’s. Yeah, maybe it’s through symbol or language or something like that. But he foresaw it changing. I want to point out, too, that this book is red, by the way, the Rothschilds. Canicle with the Rothschilds, of course. Right? They’re one of the most powerful families in the world.
They have some of the craziest books, bro. You have the red book by Jung, and then you have the book of the law, which is also red and gold by Crowley. Really? Oh, yeah. They look exactly the same. Almost the same coloring. If you look it up like a first edition. Like a first edition. Okay. That one right there, like the normal, the one almost everyone has is that one.
Wow. And then you look up the red book, and it’s like the same thing. Do you think maybe this was Crowley’s red book? Because, I mean, they were contemporaries, weren’t they? They were contemporaries. I go deep on both of them. I’m actually reading the Red Book right now. Oh, you poor soul. I don’t know if you read it, but it’s incredible. I don’t know about you, man, but I’ve been reading some heavy stuff.
I started a new series called the completion of the Falconelli affair, and every different episode is a different aspect of fulcanelli. And I’ve been reading just like the heaviest stuff because last night I was actually reading Mary friends and the idea of Gerard Dorne and how they were able to come up with the idea of synchronicities and the parallels between alchemy and the youngian aspect. But these are things that when you read it right, for example, like the Folknelli stuff, when I’m reading that, I can’t sit and read 100 pages.
I got to take it like ten pages at a time, sit down, digest what I’m reading. And the same thing with the youngie and stuff. I got to pick it up, read five pages. If I can’t even get to that because it’s just so mind blowing and so mind numbing of the concepts that you’re learning. It’s like, wait, it’s too much to take in at one time. And I think that’s one of the things that’s really.
It kind of turned me off at first with young, but I feel like there are certain things that you might not resonate with because you’re not at that level yet. Right. There’s levels to this and there’s certain things that you can’t just jump in because, like, oh, you want to learn about the occult. You want to learn about. No, you have to work your way up little by little to get to, you know, you start off with the secret teachings of all ages, and then you can jump into the infant Jesus of Prague, perhaps being some sort of vessel for a demonic entity, sort of things like that.
But you got to start off slow and work your way up into that realm of things. Sure, yeah, I think I’ve worked my way up there. And the red book, to me, I’m almost done with it. I’ve been reading it for a few weeks. And to me, it’s a modern holy book, without a doubt. Yeah. I don’t see how. It’s not in terms of the last 100 years.
It’s about all we have. It is absolutely astonishing. I’ve been blown away. It has adventure to it through the stories telling, like the dreams and visions. It has all the mysticism and metaphysics and even religion, philosophy that you could ask for. I mean, it’s really rewarding. I definitely recommend it. I can’t believe how mystical he was. So I knew the red book was. I knew, obviously, I knew what it was.
I had a copy for years. I just hadn’t read it. I read a bunch of his other stuff, but I’d always had heard, and I just hadn’t done the research. I had heard that he wrote it later in his life and he got a little bit trippier, a little bit more mystical towards the end. And I was like. And I knew that it was active imagination and automatic writing, things like that.
And I was like, okay, little mystical experiments. I don’t know, it doesn’t sound maybe like that. Interesting. And I dove in a few weeks ago and I was shocked. I mean, just in the preface, in the intro, they tell you he was working on this in 1914, which is way early in his career, and then he died in the 50s. So that’s telling you he had been working on this on the side his entire life.
And I didn’t know that at all going into it. And so that was already like a shock. I was like, what? He was doing this the whole time and then getting into it was just blew my socks off. I mean, I had no idea he was a full on mystic. As crazy as we’ve had in the last hundred years. Jung is at the top. He’s known as a psychologist, but all of his psychology, which is what you find out through the book, all of his psychology and his theories were informed through mystical vision, dream encounters with his own soul, with the devil, and all these crazy stories.
I mean, definitely encourage people to go, it is tough, like you’re saying, it’s not something I would start out with, but if you educated yourself, I would go check it out, because it’s pretty insane. That’s one of the things I love about young, where it is an academic approach to occultism, which is essentially what he was doing and he was doing what do you think that because towards the end of his life, and I’m going to bring some stuff up here, he had even write the stone, right, the cube with the little homunculus on it, which I’ll bring up here, because it’s linking into some other stuff that I’ve been.
Because he was obsessed with alchemy. He was obsessed with alchemy. A lot of the ideas that he got from alchemy, and he believed that alchemists were causing, they were like the first self help people, essentially, of history. And I stumbled across. I was doing some theatrum chemicum studies, and I stumbled across this Gerard Dorn guy because I was doing a been. There’s something about the genesis commentaries that really interests me, and a lot of them haven’t been translated.
So I translated one from the theatrical chemical, and I did a whole episode on it of this Gerard Dorn guy, which is like this super obscure alchemist who was responsible for translating a lot of Paracelsa’s work into what we know today, right, from German to Latin. And apparently he was one of the most cited alchemists by young. It was the most cited alchemist by Young. And when he was traveling in India, or whatever it was, he carried theatre chemical around with him.
And he studied specifically Gerard Dorn’s work. And from Gerard Dorn’s alchemical work was what helped him come up with this active imagination or synchronicities or whatever it was. A lot of the ideas, bro, stem from Dorn’s work. So as I’m reading that. Go ahead. I was going to say in the red book, just a quick interruption. In the red book, he says that Jung believed that alchemists were practicing active imagination in their laboratories.
So the processes of almost coming up with a hypothesis or a way of getting something done chemically, we’re exercising certain functions of the imagination and drawing you out into this sort of deep imaginatory state, almost like a daydream on steroids. And in that state, things become mythical, whether you like it or not, become archetypal. And that’s the reason that they started taking forms of green lions and suns and all those sorts of things, at least according to Jung.
But you can go on. So from this guy’s work, he developed a lot of these things. And how you’re saying. And that’s the thing about alchemy that really gets me, because it’s like, there’s so much, I believe that was an aspect of it, this idea of active imagination quite literally going into your head and having an entire laboratory or oratory, which is essentially what they wanted. Because a lot of these plates that you see of these alchemists, they were mandalas.
They were for meditation. So the alchemist could go into that painting or that plate, whatever it was, and do his working while inside of there. But then we can’t deny the fact of the practical side of symbol. Okay, we got the symbolic stuff, cool. But from alchemy, like, the actual either wet path or dry path, whichever one you want to talk about. Like Leibniz, he was hanging out with the guy that created porcelain, bro, he started the first.
The guy that he was with started what was what we know today as, like, commercial porcelain development, like the production of porcelain. And that came from a guy who allegedly had transmuted lead into gold with a powder projection. And the government was like, yo, get that guy. Like, right now, we need him. Right? So because this guy did a transmutation in front of some other people, the people ratted him out, and then the king was looking for him.
Like, yo, what are you doing? You got to come with us, because that’s the whole thing with alchemist. Like, you can’t usurp the crown or whatever it is. You have to work for us if you’re going to have these secrets. So a guy who performed a transmutation from his alchemical workings of practical alchemy helped develop the commercial trade of porcelain that we know today. So it’s like we can’t ignore the actual aspect of the.
Without a doubt, it is the earliest form of chemistry. Their ideas about the scientific method, about experimentation, those things all come out of alchemy, modern medicine, through paracelsis. How he viewed plants and materials and the essences that they carried led to modern medicine, pharmacology. There’s no taking that away. And it’s like anything else. There’s a literal and a symbolic. Like the Bible can be what you want it to be.
Symbolically. The rabbit holes are endless there. Or it can be literal. It could be a historical document. And so they both coexist. It’s neither one nor the other. It’s like a ven diagram of both, or alchemies. And like you said, when they’re pondering on these images, the way that Jung was practicing active imagination was to let an image come to you. And he actually said to do this when you’re in a bad mood or when you have some sort of overwhelming emotion.
I think a lot of times that would be like anger, like, you’re really pissed off. And he said, that’s actually a really good time just to do active imagination, just to sit down and be like, all right, what image comes in my head with this anger? Where does this lead me? Some sort of picture in your head. Obviously, the alchemist had these pictures in front of them. They didn’t have to necessarily dream them up, but he would sit there and let something come to him, and then, like you said, he would enter into the image.
So the process of active imagination is not just to watch a movie in your head. It’s to actually break the barrier and step into. You see the image, you let it sort of animate, and then you step into it as a subject, and you experience that world. And the alchemist, for doing mean without a mean, if you look at what they were doing and what Jung was doing with the red book, they’re the same thing.
I mean, of course, that’s where he’s got it mean. It’s. No, it’s. And that’s why I feel like they were doing the work on multiple dimensions. So this active imagination place, this other realm and this property he had, right? Bollingen Tower, or Bollingenjin, however you want to say it, he lived here, right? Every wizard has a tower, right? Yeah, bok tower, Balling gin tower. That’s the publisher, too, that publishes most of Jung and all the Bollingen.
Interesting. Owned by Princeton University, another Ivy League. The thing that’s interesting about this property is this cubicle stone. Now, what’s interesting about this stone is that it’s got a homunculus on it, and telesphorus was a. Let me read the inscription. So, one side contains a quote taken from the rosarium philosopherum. Here stands the mean, uncommonly stone. Tis very cheap in price. The more it is despised by fools, the more loved by the Wise.
In this text, too, is another weird alchemical text, but the more it is despised by fools, the more loved by the wise. So again, this idea of you get made fun of, like, oh, alchemy. There was no such thing as a stone. It’s like, well, how do you know? Right? You’re an idiot for thinking that. It’s like, well, the more despised by these fools, dude, that know no better, then the more loved by the wise, which the wise would be the people on the know.
So the second side of the cube depicts a telesphorus figure, which a homunculus bearing a lantern wearing a hooded cape, surrounded by the greek inscription. The inscription said, time is a child playing like a child playing a board game. The kingdom of the child. This is telesphoros, who roams through the dark regions of this cosmos and glows like a star out of the depths. He points the way to the gates of the sun into the land of dreams.
Damn, that goes hard in the. And the second side also contains a four part mandala of alchemical significance, the top quarter. The mandala is dedicated to Saturn, the bottom quarter to Mars, the left to solar Jupiter, and the right to lunar Venus. So you have again this alchemical alignment, right? The typical alchemical concoction. You always have Saturn, you always have mercury as well. You have all these plates.
And one of the inscriptions reads, I am an orphan alone. Nevertheless, I am found everywhere. I am one, but opposed to myself. I am youth, an old man at one and the same time. I have known neither father nor mother, because I had to be fetched out of the deep like a fish or fell like a white stone from heaven and woods and mountains I roam. But I am hidden in the innermost soul of man.
I am mortal for everyone, yet I am not touched by the cycle of aons. Wow. Okay, so we got some heavy stuff here. I am an orphan. So, again, talking about homunculus, 100%. I am known neither father nor mother because I had to be fetched out of the deep like a fish. Or fell like a white stone from heaven. And this is an interesting connection here, because I just got done covering Polaris, which is this or Polaria, the white stone.
So I forget the name, but I’ll look it up here in a second. Or you have the whitestone, which is also one of the magnum opa or opus. Opa is opa plural, right? Opai, yeah, I think so. The white stone creates silver and then the red stone creates the gold. And this is very paracelcian here. I’m hidden in the innermost soul of man. But one of the interesting parts of Dorn was Dorn said, turn yourself into the philosophical stone.
So he took all of these philosophical aspects or these practical aspects of the work, like the great work, and turn into a more philosophical thing, right? So it was more a spiritual, inner working type of thing. And what’s interesting about this telesphorus guy is that he is a minor child God of healing. And he was a possible son of Asclepius, right? Which is. This is the guy that gets turned into the golden ass.
No, I believe so, yeah. I think he has the medical symbol. I think I might be thinking of another guy. There’s a guy that got turned into the golden ass. Who’s the guy? Sclepius has the. What do they call that thing? Oh my God, I’m so stupid. Starts with a c. No, Apulius. This guy here. Okay, I got him wrong, but not a sclepius, this Apulius guy. Anyways, backtracking a little bit.
So we have this. He was the son of him and then frequently accompanied with hygiea, which is I guess known for hygiene. That’s where we get the word hygiene from, which is an interesting connection. And he symbolized recovery from illness, as his name means the accomplisher or bringer of completion in Greek. Representations of him are found mainly in Anatolia and along the noob. Now what’s interesting about this little guy is that.
Have you ever heard of the. Let me find it here. The gates of alchemy. Have you heard about that before you find the name. Hold on, this is important because I got to get this right, because I came across this the other day, forgot the name of it. What’s it called? The Porta Alchemica. Here we go. I’m sorry. The alchemical door or the alchemy gate or magic portal.
Now this is in Rome. And an interesting part about this. This story goes deep, right? It’s obviously has some inscriptions on it that are allegedly to achieve the magnum opus. There was a dude who had supposedly achieved the magnum opus and had left like some inscription. So they took those inscriptions and they put them on this gate. But whatever. That’s not what interested me at first. When I first saw this, what stood out to me were these little dudes on the side, or homunculus, if you will.
Right, sure. And these little dudes on the side here are representative of. What’s that? Of the egyptian God, so called Bess, which again, very interesting, because it’s the protector of household mothers, children and childbirth. Similarly to our boy over here, minor God, child of healing. Right. And there was also something else about childbirth as well. Let me see here. Temple. Tell us. There’s actually temples dedicated to this guy, bro.
This little. He had a cult, right? Yeah. Isn’t the infant Jesus a prague of homunculus? It also has a cult basically. I didn’t say that. You said that, but sure. So we have this weird little humunk God, right? That is supposedly rolls movie. Yeah. And this little best thing is guarding this alchemical gate at this villa, right? And this is linked, bro. I went down this rabbit hole the other day.
This has Kercher wrapped up in there, bro. The guy that supposedly did the transmutation was a pupil of Kircher. We know Kercher was writing about the Hollow earth and the subterranean realms and all this stuff. So there’s like this whole thing and there’s an alchemical door on the side of a freaking rock. It’s like, what are you supposed to. Can you go into here? Is there something about the stone similar to our boy here? Tell us, Forest, what’s he guarding? Because.
Right. He had some significance. Too young, right? Clearly. Yeah. Because that was at his house, right? Yeah. This was at that Bollingen tower. Jung also wore his golden ring. Got a Braxus. Yeah. Which was to him, that was the christian God and Satan unified into one being, which is really. And he goes over that in the red book and stuff. And it’s really trippy. And that’s very know to not have the duality, to have them unified into one primal cause.
I don’t know if you’ve read about Philemon. He’s in the red book also. You ever looked into a. He’s like an entity. Fill me in. I’ve heard that name before. I’m pretty sure I’ve heard of him. Philammon, man. Philammon. What is like Jung’s guru anima or something like that. What do you call teacher? No, he’s more than that. He’s almost like a guru, like a saint or something, that he’s like a magical.
He’s a magician, almost like a hermit type figure. But he takes form, so he’ll take the form of some crazy creature or something. And he leads Jung through his visions and dreams. And Jung would write like odes to Philemon and stuff. And it’s really trippy. Very. Who was the one with the inner daemon? Was that Socrates with the. Yeah, yeah, Socrates, yeah. All the Platonists and most of the Greeks will say they have a.
Because they thought that your daemon was the thing like a creature almost, or an entity that ties you to matter. So there’s your soul and there’s matter like your body and there’s something in between those two. And that’s your daemon basically, in platonism. And really quick, bro, I don’t know if you. Do you know what the symbol to Cinnabar looks like, bro? To Cinnabar, like in alchemy. No, honestly, let me look it up.
Oh, you’re going to look it up. Oh, damn. That’s crazy. That’s weird, right? Yeah. Cinnabar, bro, is at the core of alchemy. And then here it is. Like what that kind of looks like, I don’t know, a 33. So again, I don’t know. You have all these secret societies that use the 33. You had Christ that died at 33. You have 33 vertebrae. You have all these. The word God appears 33 times in Genesis, too.
There you go. You have the globus crucible, which back again to the, by the way, in the Jewish Torah, it appears 32 times. Interesting. And so when Francis Bacon and the boys were doing the King James Bible, they added another one. They threw in another little extra. God made it 33 on purpose. So it proves that it’s on purpose. I think we all know it’s on purpose anyway.
But for anyone who’s like, oh, that’s just unconscious or that just synchronicity. No, the Torah has 32, the christian Old Testament done up by Bacon, who was like, straight up probably the founder of freemasonry. Do you believe that could be. I mean, Mahal thought that. Do you believe that theory, though, bro, that King James was surrounded by the whole baconian theory? Well, yes, we can get into that.
So Bacon did write, not write, but translated directly from Aramaic and Hebrew and so on into English and standardized the English language with the King James Bible. For fact, we know Bacon was put in charge of that project. So he oversaw a committee of translators like the best of the best that he had brought in, and he was given the task. Hey, you got to put this together.
That’s, like, historical fact. We know that for sure. There is other stuff like him founding freemasonry, him being Shakespeare, things like that, which are speculative, possible, but we do know that he definitely put together the Bible. But him being Shakespeare, I think that’s very mean. There’s so much trippy stuff with you. I know you’ve read secret teachings, but it’s pretty crazy. It’s wild. It’s like, too much. That’s another one of those theories where you got to read it like a piece at a time, because it’s so much information just being thrown at you at one time that you’re just.
I could run down a few things just real quick on that, about how sketchy Shakespeare is as a historical figure, as being, like, the guy who wrote all the plays. He was the owner of the Globe theater. And that guy. I mean, for example, the town Stratford in England, where Shakespeare is from, they didn’t have any schools that are notable, high level of education, schools where he could have been educated the way you would have had needed to been to be Shakespeare.
And there are some of these where I’m like, okay, genius could account for know where. It’s like, okay, Jimi Hendrix didn’t go to art school. He was a prodigy. Yeah. It doesn’t mean he wasn’t Jimi Hendrix, but we can get to that. It’s not just his education. This one’s trippy. There’s only six examples of Shakespeare’s handwriting at all. Three of those are in his will, and all six are his signature.
So there’s nothing outside that that’s in his personal handwriting by Shakespeare. That’s crazy. There’s no mention or evidence of a library, personal library owned by Shakespeare. So in his will, we have his will. In his will, there’s no, like, I bequeath to you my tomes of know that I’ve been studying. I mean, that’s amazing. There’s no personal library. It’s rumored that his daughter was illiterate. That’s another one, which is like, how could your dad be Shakespeare? And even though you’re a woman, I understand you’re a woman, and hundreds of years ago, but still, dad’s Shakespeare and didn’t want you to read his books or something.
He never starred in one of his own plays, which at the time was, like, crazy at the time. Back then, if you’re writing the play, you were the star of the play. Basically, you would give yourself the part, but you could say that. That one. Okay, maybe he wasn’t a good actor or something because he played the ghost in Hamlet, which is funny because Hamlet’s supposed to be his dead son.
Maybe he was a little retarded. Right? Maybe he was. Could have been, yeah. But I could just run through a few more because I read secret teachings recently, so I got them fresh. Go ahead. A bunch of his friends, like, there’s a guy named Ben Johnson who’s like a contemporary author with Shakespeare and was friends with William Shakespeare. And he says on record that he knew very little Latin, very little Greek, no Spanish or Danish or anything like that.
But in the works, he’s making puns on these other languages. He’s showing like, a familiarity with foreign languages and foreign places as if he’s been to Denmark. He’s been to like, this is some random, you know, when you’re talking about it being bacon, who. Bacon is like, well traveled for sure. Extremely well educated. He’s in, like, the royal courts. I mean, who’s more likely? There’s a few more like Shakespeare’s.
Shakespeare’s heirs in his will did not benefit financially from his works or take part in first publications of his works, which are called the folios. So they didn’t even in his will and afterwards, they weren’t getting royalties and things like that from his work, which is like, why would they not be getting that? Yeah, there’s a few more. So was he a real person or not? What’s your opinion? Probably a real person.
And what would they benefit from? Occulting. Occulting it actually being bacon. What’s that other guy that they also talk about perhaps being Shakespeare, too? Jeez, he was like an earl of something or other. What’s his name anyways? One of these other guys forget his name anyways. There’s like this dude on YouTube. I forget his name, too. That goes hard in the paint on this whole Baconian, the triple towel and all that stuff when they take his covers and they do like this whole geometric line and taking the line and it points down to the e.
For anyone interested, read the secret teachings thing and go check out some stuff on you. It’s endless rabbit hole. There’s ciphers included. Yes, there’s. What else is there? I mean, there’s stuff about puns on bacon and hogs and ham. All kinds of crazy stuff that point to Shakespeare being some sort of mythological character, almost someone who was historical, who just. They pinned Bacon’s writings know. That’s a good question.
I don’t know what you really gain from doing that. I’m trying to. That. So I think Bacon was Bacon. I think Shakespeare was that. And it’s difficult to pinpoint because you’re talking about a guy who you could say and you could argue single handedly transformed the english language as we know today. Okay. Without a. And prior to the two of them. So the King James Bible and the works of Shakespeare, the english language was not standardized.
So there were little dialects of where you were from, and they all had little. It was very fractured. And those two works in the 15 hundreds served to standardize a common language through the Bible and Shakespeare that we could all build. Like, have you ever heard of the Shakespeare and d connection? Have you ever heard of that connection there? Yeah, I have. Are. That’s a possibility, too, that there’s all kinds of the Garland brothers.
Yeah, there could be several. They could all be working together, for all we know, at the same. All these guys, bacon and Dee, and you name it, they’re all spies, right? That was, like, really popular back then to be a freaking spy, right? And that connection, to me, makes the most sense because there are those missing years within Shakespeare’s life. So it’s like, where’d he go for x amount of years? And it’s like Vincent Bridges did work on this, where he traced back, like, oh, look, there’s records here of these Garland brothers traveling around with John D.
And, you know, doing seances. And that’s how he was able to learn about the occult and all these different aspects. And it’s like, damn, that makes a lot of sense to me. But I do believe that Shakespeare was Shakespeare. Yeah. I think Shakespeare is bacon, but we’ll call it a truth because it’s like, let’s say Bacon was Shakespeare. Then who wrote Bacon? You know what I’m saying? Like, this guy was that prolific, bro, that he wrote all of Bacon plus, that’d be crazy, bro.
Yeah. And put together the King James Bible. That’s a lot of writing. You know what I mean? According to hall, hall theorizes that he may have founded Freemasonry. Yes, we know that he was a Freemason. Bacon. We don’t know much about it before his era. So Hall, I don’t know if he’s just being, like, fantastical and would like that to be the truth or whether that is the truth.
It’s hard to know with him. I just read his biography, by the way, manly P. Hall. Which one? The man of mysteries. Yeah, master of the mysteries. Yeah, master of mysteries. Yeah. I didn’t really like that one all that much. I feel like the guy’s tone was very asshole. I agree. I was going to say that. I agree that it kind of sounded like he didn’t really like Manly P.
Hal. Yes. Which is a weird thing. I mean, good information and kind of short. Yeah, I thought I had read it, too, because it was a fast read. Yeah, he didn’t really seem that great. Do you know which right of Freemasonry Bacon was behind? Because I know Cagliostra was the Egyptian, right? No, let me see. I don’t know. I think Cagliostro was the, I want to say egyptian.
Right. But bacon, because, you know, there’s different sects and different arms, I guess. Right. Of all these secret societies, even they can’t come up with a solid ground to stand on as far as their beliefs go. It says that he was associated with the Rosicrucians, and Freemasonry doesn’t really give us that. His book, the New Atlantis, which Dr. Narco Longo did an audiobook of on his channel, it says that in that Atlantis is ruled by Rosicrucians.
Just funny. Interesting. Well, that’s the whole thing behind rosicrucianism, believes in the ascended masters, right. Very theosophical. Where there’s these beings that came down from whatever planet Xenu or whatever is and came down. It’s like they’re a superior race. And I mean, you know where that goes because we’ve seen that in. Dude, if anyone’s interested in Rudolph Steiner has, because he was a Rosicrucian earlier in his life, I’m sure later didn’t really have much interest, but definitely initiated into those mysteries.
And he has crazy writings on the rituals and practices of Rosicrucians. Really mystical christian stuff. Really interesting. Could be for people who maybe are a little scared of the dark arts and know, want to maybe take a little more of a traditional route using the Bible and stuff, instead of some old Renaissance books. Like, for example, he says that, I think it’s the first 14 lines, something like that.
I have to pull it up of the Gospel of John. He’s kind of obsessed with the Gospel of John because it’s the most mystical. If you read it, it’s very strange. It starts off talking about the word like the logos and Steiner was all, apparently the Rosicrucians are just like, think the gospel of John is like where the secrets are. Really? Yeah, because it’s kind of tacked on.
And he said that it’s a rosicrucian practice to recite like at the same time every day, whether it’s for bed, whether know, 02:00 in the afternoon, doesn’t matter. Same time every day. And I’d have to go read my notes here, I’ll look it up real fast. Just. That’ll give us information wrong. Let’s see. Yeah, we should talk to an expert on the whole baconian thing. I want to hit up.
There’s a guy with a YouTube channel that I’ve seen that goes like super hard in the paint as far as the whole Rosa Crucian aspect. Can you still hear me? My freaking computer just like shut off. Yeah, I can hear you. Golly, dude. Yeah, I cleaned my setup. I’m like, let me take out all the dust out of the computer filters and all that stuff. Treat my computer good, right? It’s the life force of the podcast, essentially, that’s where all the files and everything are at.
And then I went ahead and I cleaned it, and I’ve been getting nothing. But hopefully this video looks good, because right now I’m glitching out, bro, in the matrix right now, the way I see myself in the video. Found my notes. Hopefully it turns out all right. So the gospel of St. John is the most important gospel according to Rudolph Steiner. He says it has the full power and light of God manifest in it in that secret societies of the middle ages all studied it.
So templars, cathars, Rosicrucians, you name it, as being very, very important. Steiner believes it holds knowledge of a future version of Christianity that will spread. Bible scholars believe it was from the second century, and therefore could have been considered mystical poetry or alexandrian philosophy, almost like neoplatonism. So the Rosicrucians, according to Steiner, would meditate on the first 14 lines of the Gospel of John every day. And they believed that those lines had magical power.
If you repeated them at the same time, day after day, you would begin to relive the gospels and their events in your dreams. So you would go through the stations, the cross, like the whole deal in your own dreams. And he says they would see Jesus being born and all the way up until his resurrection in your dreams. And I can read the first 14 lines if you want.
It’s interesting because who John is and then what these knights Templar allegedly had, which was the head of John the Baptist, which was perhaps Steiner even makes the case that John in the Bible is not mentioned until after Jesus raises Lazarus from the dead. And so Rudolph Steiner says that John is actually Lazarus initiated. So Lazarus died, Jesus brings him back, and now he’s John. And John’s delivering the goods from the other.
John is JC’s homunculi, bro. I said it. That’s some necromantical shit, right? Know, this is good stuff. So that’s Steiner. What? Steiner is that, like, where can people find that if they wanted to? A book called Esoteric Cosmology by Rudolph Steiner. It’s like 150 page book. It’s really short and it’s a good overview. It’s different chapters on cosmology, as you would imagine, but also christian mysticism, rosicrucianism, heaven, astral world chakras, you name it, it’s in there.
He goes over different forms of initiation. Like I just talked about Lazarus dying, coming back. And then John appears in the Bible and Steiner and apparently these other secret societies believe that John was the initiated Lazarus. That’s. And that’s why the Gospel of John has the secret, has got the goods because he’s one of them. He’s initiated well. And this makes right. The Manicheans, the cathars, the Bogomills, all these people that worshiped John the Baptist.
Right? Wow, that’s wild, dude. And the idea of what baptism represents. You’re being born again. Sure. And I think we talked about that baptism, possibly, according to Rupert Sheldrake, not signified, but literally was a near death experience. So it was a drowning. That’s trippy. But yeah, like you’re saying worshiping. They. They saw him as an initiate, like a follower of Jesus who died, came back, was led through that by Jesus himself and learned the.
And initiates in ancient times would be put into a coffin. They would do this sort of. And they kind of do that with like skull and bones and things like that. But they would. Templar allegedly, too, had a ritual where they would die for three. They would. So initiates in ancient times would be put into a coffin for days and their soul would leave the body and go to the astral worlds and see all kinds of crazy mystical stuff and people.
Steiner even says that it’s possible that there was like a magi or some sort of person who was molding you, like your astral body while you were out of it, almost like massaging, like turning you into an initiate, perfecting you while you were away, which is really trippy. But then you would come back and the person would be initiated. You have left the body, sort of realized your immortality or whatever.
Have you seen all this crazy stuff and then come back an interesting thing to tie that into one of our later subjects is that they always say that there’s been no mummies found in the pyramids. But in the king’s chamber, what is there? There’s a massive coffin box. Yeah, box with nothing in it, no dead people. Why? Because people were being initiated in the great Pyramid. So the initiates would be put in there in this energy harnessing, massive pyramid full of quartz and ascend.
Basically, they would just go off into space and come back. And that’s why there’s no actual mummies, because these people weren’t actually dying there. They weren’t actually being literally buried there. They were symbolically dying there, symbolically being buried there. And this will get into our next thing. How many people have had those experiences in the pyramids? You have Alexander the great went to the pyramids. He had crazy stuff happen.
You have Crowley, who went to the great pyramid and had the book of the law delivered. And you have Napoleon. Hold on, bro. Before we go there, read the first. You said 1415 lines. You said, yeah, I’ll read them for you. So, John, chapter one. In the beginning was the word. In the word was with God. In the word was God. He was with God in the beginning.
Through him, all things were made. Without him, nothing was made that has been made. In him was life. And that life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it. There came a man who was sent from God. His name was John. He came as a witness to testify concerning the light, so that through him all men might believe he himself was not the light.
He came only as a witness to the light. The true light that gives light to every man was coming into the world. He was in the world. And through the world was made through him. The world did not recognize him. He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him yet. To all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God.
Children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God. The word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only who came from the father, full of grace and truth. That’s it. I wonder what that reads like in the original. That’s a good question. And it is tricky, even in its current form.
Is like the one, the word is man. And you’re just like, what? Very platonic. Yeah, it is very neoplatonic. Which, like I said, they say that it came from second century Alexandria, which is where the neoplatonists, where it was going down and Kabbalah was forming at the same time in the same. So because one of the things that’s always interested me, whereas with the John of revelation and how that was John, and by the way, Juan is another version of John, so I guess you could.
Right, so we’re talking about John on John podcast. Doesn’t sound as good, but people have sometimes called me John throughout my life. But you have the whole idea of the book of Revelation, even though it was a different John. But now that you’re saying this idea of like, oh, the initiated versus the uninitiate, it’s like, wow, there’s kind of something there, too. It’s like, what if this dude, this other John was, could have potentially been the same people in some way, shape or form, right? Let’s think outside the box.
Let’s throw the traditional timeline out of the. Because that’s one of the things about the Bible where it’s like, oh, let’s disregard all this crazy mystic raising people from the dead and all that stuff. It’s like, oh, but you got to stick to this timeline, bro. This person was. Yeah, come on. You know. By the way, Lazarus. Just to put a little support on what I said earlier, the only gospel that mentions the miracle of raising Lazarus is the gospel of John.
And I think it’s the last thing that happens in that gospel, too. Wait, what? Say that again. So the raising of Lazarus from the dead happens in the gospel of John. That’s where it’s found in the Bible and it’s not found elsewhere. Interesting. So there’s something very alchemical and very cryptic to that. Yeah. And apparently, according to Steiner, all the secret societies, especially the christian influenced ones, so the Cathars, the Rosicrucians and what have you were onto this? It was nobody’s business.
They were all on the gospel John. And I don’t know a lot about Lazarus, but hold on. Oh, man, this is crazy because I just googled, I’m trying to pull up the plates of where you take the bones of the king and you put it in the sarcophagus or the coffin, and then the king writes in pieces, and then the king comes back. I googled the resurrecting kingplate and look at what came up.
Lazarus of Bethany. Oh, dang, that’s crazy. Because again, because some people will be like, oh, well, there’s actually writings about how people would alchemize quite literally everything, like any ancient text. So it got to the point where during the Renaissance time, they were taking allegorical and metaphorical stories and be like, oh, that’s alchemy. And that’s alchemy, too. And it’s like, no, sometimes they’re just stories and they’re not alchemical in nature.
But you just unlock this whole thing in me where I’m like, wait a minute, now. It makes a lot more sense from the alchemical perspective of these plates showing certain things. And here it is in a larping type of way, where they’re quite literally telling these stories. They’re acting them out in this book, which is the Bible. Right. So you take the alchemical allegories and you turn it into a story, and you hide those alchemical secrets within this story, if that makes any sense.
Sure. And in the initiatory rituals of Freemasonry, for each degree, like you were just saying, acting these things out as, like, drama, you watch a play. So in each degree of Freemasonry, you basically are watching a symbolic play, what? Acted out by the brothers. Yeah. Right. And then obviously you could tie in Shakespeare and all that. If you is they are initiatory and there is drama and there is myth.
Obviously, all that just is myth. And myth is not like, how we think of it today, where it’s like, oh, that’s a myth. It’s far more deeper than we could even imagine. What, bro? And I think I can find the twelve keys of Valentine. Let me see if he has the king. Where they bury him. You know what I’m talking about? Where they bury the bones of the king, and then he comes back out of the tomb in one piece.
Let me see here. I want to find it. Now. The twelve keys of basil Valentine. Here we go. Let’s see. So you have this very. Just weird stuff, man. That’s what I love about alchemy. It’s so trippy, dude. So weird. And it’s like such a large part of history. Right? Again, this is not the one I’m looking for, but in some depictions, they resurrect. And I think it’s an atlantean Fugians, too.
By mayor found a masonic ritual. It says, masonic ritual is a full body experience offering total sensual immersion. The initiations are not unlike visiting a modern day Imax theater. However, the latter experience is synthetical, whereas masonic immersion is organic. Dramatists of the ancient world understood this principle, that theater was not about entertainment, but initiation, religion, catharsis, and psychological development. The creators of masonic ceremonies also understood this and they succeeded in converting the theater into a masonic temple.
Let’s go. The cinemagicians hard at work. Absolutely. And you watch things unfold in front of you basically. Look, this was the OG alchemical hot box I’m going to show you right now. Hold. Atlanta Fujians right here. This dude’s hot boxing bra. This was the OG theater, right? And this is a really interesting one too because with these plates there was music that you could also play with. Look, young used this emblem too, this plate.
But you’re just helping me connect all these dots in my mind right now as far as this whole initiation and how you have magical names. Here it is right here. So the typhoon kills Osiris. Osiris, right. That’s an s by the sea and disperses his limbs. But famous. God, I hate these things. I don’t know what that is right there but gathered them together. Yeah. The initiatory burial.
I could read you the stages of initiation rituals that are found throughout christian secret societies according to Stan. I think here there’s one of them where they take his body apart right here in the background. His body’s taken apart and you can’t really see him on these because they’re not that well, but he’s the king and just. What a weird thing, bro. I go up to you and I go, hey dude, you’re an artist.
Draw me getting this? Yeah. How do you even begin to. He’s going to be a king in a coffin and then in the back he’s going to be dismembered and then there’s going to be somebody picking that up and then there’s going to be some people in the back behind there and they’re going to be doing like what? Well, Plotinus says in the Eniads that if you were to be tortured, like if you were to be torn apart like that, it sounds like they’re sort of symbolically representing what he’s saying.
He said if you were being tortured, your body was just being torn apart in some sort of medieval torture device. He’s pretty hardcore philosopher. He’s like that shouldn’t matter at all because your body is just a shadow of your soul. Just like an image, a symbol of what you’re real. So it’s not easy to say but it’s possible that they are representing something like that. Like you go ahead and take that then bro.
So I’ll give you some of the stages that you have dreams of in this steinarian gospel of John initiation. So the first one is you’ll be washing somebody’s feet in your dreams. And these all have esoteric meanings. So they’re not just things that happened that Jesus did. They’re things that you enact, reenact in your dreams, sort of incited by the first 14 verses or lines, and you’ll be washing someone’s feet.
And so this is like an esoteric law that you’re learning. And it’s not just humility like most people saying. It’s the esoteric law that higher things can only exist because of lower things. So it’s like a consubstantiality, meaning both things are dependent on each other to exist at all. And so Jesus can’t exist without his disciples and without us, like without mankind, and then we can’t exist without him kind of thing.
So we’re all sort of codependent. And that is washing the feet. It’s like an esoteric initiation. And then you move on to the scourging, which is when you’re basically being tortured, you’re being whipped and things like that. And that’s becoming fearless and courageous and heroic. And you have a vision of that happening to you, which gives you a wider sense of love and feeling of living within the body sort of thing.
Then you go on to a dream where you have the famous crown of thorns placed on you. And that represents like a rational stoicism, meaning not just stoicism like by brute force, but rational stoicism. So you’re able to break things down logically and say, okay, well, this isn’t a big deal because of x, y and z be gone kind of thing. It’s like a mental stoicism, disassociation, saying yes to life and being moral.
And then a very serious event occurs during the stage, which involves the appearance of the guardian of the threshold, which is an astral double of yourself, much like a holy Guardian angel and like CrowlEy’s type system or something like that, which appears in physical form before you. So you got the crown of thorns on this thing, this DoPPelGAnger, the dweller of the abyss. Yeah, which Jung in the red book, he calls it his other eye, and it’s a shadow, appears to him, appears to you in your dream in physical form, and it’s like disgusting.
It’s like a zombie like hideous, very lucrative. And you have to master it in order to avoid insanity. Then you move on to the bearing of the cross, which is a feeling of oneness and association with the whole earth and everything on it. So it’s like the ultimate burden of the world. You’re literally ATlas in GReeK mythology, bearing the World. Then your next dream, these are all initiatory dreams that you have basically in these secret societies is a mystic death.
So the initiate is bearing all the suffering in the world, like atlas, like Christ, and becomes aware of death. And they move closer to death. And eventually an inner light comes into AwAReNESS. And STEIner compares that light to sound. So he says that this inner light, this reignition of your soul that happens through that initiation is similar to when you plug your ears. And it’s not like when you plug Your ears, you can’t hear anything.
You just hear stuff that’s happening inside. You hear your heart beating. You hear, like, your stomach moving and you may hear it ringing or something. And he says it’s the same thing with your consciousness, that when you shut off, you’re bearing the entire world and you sort of shut off the outer world and you move inward, that it’s not like nothing happened. The opposite happens. So it comes from within.
Now the world sort of ignites in front of you on the interior, the sort of astral world. Let’s see. He kind of. Steiner at least compared that to numbers, too, which is like a pythagorean thing that when you’re approaching zero, you think that the number line is going to be over, but then it just goes into negative numbers and keeps going, that kind of thing. So your next initiation, your next dream is your entombment, where you’re freed from the body and you’re among the stars.
You’re just like flying astrally and you identify as the earth. So you are the earth, and then the planets are like your contemporaries. They’re like your buddies. And so then you really start to take on that astrological, alchemical, planetary influence becomes real. Unus mundus. Right. You’re the earth and they’re right next to you kind of thing. And then obviously the last initiation dream in these societies is the resurrection.
So Steiner says that that’s almost impossible to describe in language, but that the initiator merges with the power of healing and things like that, obviously, like an awareness of immortality and so on. Yeah, it’s trippy stuff. Wow, dude, that’s rosicrucianism, right? That’s mystical. That’s christian mysticism. Christian mysticism, yes. Three Rosicrucians, Cathars, Templars, they were all practicing that kind of dream initiation. Astral initiation, I guess you could call it, but they would set you up basically ritually to have these dreams, experience these things.
And through the stages of Jesus’life, you would learn these esoteric principles and laws and actually live them out as experience and not just dogma. So that’s what makes it mystical. And this was activated through this reading of the first. We say 14 lines. Yeah. Gospel of John. So that’s how you knew you were doing it, right? Because you would do this every day, same time, same thing, over and over again.
And then you’d go to sleep that night. And then if you had one of these dreams, you knew you were on the right path or the right track. You’d start off with the first one. Or apparently you would see Jesus being born in a dream. And then you would sort of identify as Jesus from then on. And live out those things in successive dreams. And that was your initiation, like, full on.
You learned everything you had to learn. There was not a whole lot else you needed to be taught. You lived it in whatever that was. Maybe like ten dreams or something. I wasn’t counting, but something like probably twelve dreams, right? Probably twelve dreams or seven dreams or something. It’s pretty wild stuff. And like I was saying earlier, in the pyramids, they were doing these sort of initiations in coffins, entombing you, letting the mind just detach and fly around.
And there’s all these historical characters that clearly had experiences in the pyramids like that. Look, these guys look like they’re having a great time. And this is from manly P. Hall. I want to say it’s either. It’s one of the three journals, the horizon, or the other ones, not the all seeing. I don’t think it’s the all seeing eye anyways, whatever. But it’s called the initiation in the king’s chamber.
And it’s what you were talking about how maybe perhaps this place was used as a sort of metaphysical. I think it was like a metaphysical canon for your soul. So you would get loaded up in there. And the reason I say that is because I did an episode 177. Where my buddy Luke, he’s just sitting down and telling us about all these different trips that he’s taken. And one trip in particular that he just recently took earlier this year.
Where he was in the king’s chamber at two in the morning. And they were just hanging out in there, looking around. And they started chanting. And they would get in the box. And the box vibrates, right? Because you’re not allowed to. How many tones do anything while you’re in there? If you have, like a strict tour guide. But the tour guides that he goes with are just know, friends of his.
So they let him. Crowley rented it out. So times have changed. Yes. They didn’t even care back. Yeah, exactly. So. And that’s one of the things that I talked to him about. I’m like, you know, Crowley was essentially prophesied to in the king’s chamber. So what you were saying that these people throughout history, some of the more significant people throughout history, maybe could have gone through sort of initiation, and then Napoleon Bonaparte being one of the ones that had also.
I didn’t even know that he went, oh, yeah, yeah, pull that. Obviously, Napoleon took, took Egypt. So he’s a wild man. He went down and he’s like, all right, I’m just going to take Egypt. I’m going to ring all my scholars, translate a bunch of stuff, get everything. It was under turkish control. And so he said, let’s get the Turks out. And in the process, it’s going to create a problem for England, who was like his enemy, because somehow I forgot maybe they knew the nile or something to get to some other colonies that they had.
But he was like, yeah, this is going to screw England. I’m going to be in the middle. And it’s just cool to have Egypt because obviously Alexander the Great took Egypt, too, as a hero of his. And in the pyramid, the great pyramid, you could look it up. He had a mystical experience where he has a famous quote about it, something like, I can’t put it into words, or something like that.
And he doesn’t describe it, which is terrible. I wish he did, but he does not describe his experience in the great pyramid that I know of. But he does say that something happened that was, like, profound. Yeah, that’s fascinating. And then he in his whole life, had all kinds of. He had ghost stories. He believed that he was like the culmination of legends and prophecies that told of him coming to sort of rule the world or rule Europe.
He had ghost stories and all kinds of paranormal type things as well that are super interesting. So this quote here, I’m trying to find the quote where he talked about the little red man. So the red man stops the last efforts of the tyrant death, offering the only means of escape from his exile, allegedly. What we wanted to get into after all this time at the very beginning was the myth of Napoleon and the red man.
And it’s interesting because I’m not sure. Does young describe the devil when he meets him? Satan? Does he describe what he looks like? Does he calm the red man, the Red Rider? Yeah. The red rider. Yeah. So he’s like a ginger viking, massive ginger guy who gleans red. Yeah. The red man appeared for the first time to General Bonaparte. Then in Egypt, the evening before the battle of the Pyramids.
Napoleon, attended by several officers, was riding past one of those monuments of antiquity when a man wrapped in a red mantle came out of the pyramid and motioned him to a light and follow him. Bonaparte complied, and then they went together in the interior of the pyramid. Oh, my God. After an hour had elapsed, the officers became uneasy at the long absence of their commander. They were just on the point of entering the monument in quest of him when he came forth with a look of evident satisfaction.
Before this interview with the red man, he had steadfastly refused to give battle. But now he issued orders to prepare immediately for attack, and the following day, he gained the victory of the pyramids. So this little red man that supposedly Bonaparte had encountered. Right, Napoleon Bonart, was born in Corsica, an island, et cetera, et cetera. The 19th century guidebook observed, the Corsicas believe in the mal ochio, or evil eye, and in witchcraft as sternly as their ancestors of the 16th century.
While Napoleon did not believe in witchcraft, he was prone to more everyday superstitions and has been credited with some fantastical beliefs. So Josephine brought him good luck. He became accustomed to associate the idea of her influence with every piece of good furniture. It’s almost like a feng shui type of thing going on here. Napoleon’s lucky star we have relates to him, monsieur Pas. You claim to have heard it directly from general upon the siege, et cetera.
Do you see it up there? That it is my star. There it is, shining before you has never left me. I see it in all great mo. I wonder if he’s talking about, like, the north star. Yeah, he thinks it’s his. Yeah, it’s like when you wish upon a star, right? Like that whole thing. I see nothing. In exile, Napoleon referred to as lucky Star. In a conversation, Omens regarded some incidents as omens carried a miniature portrait of Josephine.
When the glass on the portrait accidentally broke, Napoleon turned pale with dread and said, either my wife is very ill or she is unfaithful. Yikes. So, numbers and dates. Napoleon disliked Fridays in the number 13. He would never begin a journey on a Friday or the 13th of a month. On the other hand, he regarded some dates particularly auspicious. After winning the battle of Australia in 18 five, he considered December 2 one of his lucky dates, especially since his coronation had occurred so this guy, bro, this guy was like going hard in the paint.
This guy was going to take over the world, wasn’t he? Yeah. So the red man. This is crazy. Satson said that Napoleon periodically saw a phantom called the red man. Here’s a summary of what the tales reported in February 1815, before Napoleon made his escape from Alba. The gentleman from looks long, but I know a lot of it just off the top of my head. So wait, so at the pyramid, wasn’t the first time that he.
No. So this is even more interesting. Not only were the pyramids, not the first time that he saw the red man, but he wasn’t even the first person to see the red man. So there was french royalty who had encounters with this red man, this little homunculus like gnome. They described him as like a gnome in all red kind of thing, who would come to them and just be like, giving them prophecies, like making deals with them, all kinds of know, spritely things.
And I forgot the lady’s name, Catherine or something like that. Some french aristocrat royal had encounters with him too, and ended up dying. I think her husband died and he prophecied a bunch of horrible things before the revolution. And then the red man started reporting to Napoleon, appearing to him out of nowhere. He would just pop up and he made deals with Napoleon. He said, you’re going to have ten years of victory, ten years of success.
And then Napoleon’s like, can I get another five when the ten is? Let me read this. So the following singular story was circulated almost immediately after the fall of Napoleon, and with credits obtained ready belief. The gentleman from whom this curious communication was received heard it related with the following particulars. On the first day of January at Paris, where he spent the whole of the winter, the 1 January 1814.
Early in the morning, Napoleon shut himself up in his cabinet. Let me zoom into this. In his cabinet, bidding count Mole moly, then counselor of state, to remain in the next room and to hinder any person whatever from troubling him while he was occupied in his cabinet. He had not long retired to his study when a tall man dressed in red applied to moly or mole, pretending that he wanted to speak to the emperor, he was answered that it was not possible.
I must speak to him. Go and tell him that it is the red man who wants him, and he will admit me. Alled by the imperious and commanding tone of the strange personage, Moly obeyed reluctantly and, trembling, executed his dangerous errand. Let him in, said Bonaparte sternly. Prompted by curiosity mole listened at the door and overheard the following curious conversation. So, again, if we’re to believe this mole guy, and he wasn’t alone in this apparition, if you will, this thing.
Right. But here, he’s tall, so, I don’t know. Maybe he’s a big homunculus. I don’t know. Maybe. So he could be, like, appearing differently to different people. True. So the red man said, this is my third appearance before you. The first time we met was in Egypt, at the battle of the pyramids. So that one thing where he had disappeared for a little bit. The second, after the battle of Wagram.
I then granted you four years more to terminate the conquest of Europe or to make a general peace threatening you. That if you did not perform one of these two things, I would withdraw my protection from you. Now, I am come for the third and last time to warn you that you have now but three months to complete the execution of your designs or to comply with the proposals of peace offered you by the allies.
If you do not achieve the one or a seed to the other, all will be over with you. So remember it well. Napoleon then expostelated with him to obtain more time on the plea that it was impossible and so short a space to reconquer what he had lost or to make peace on honorable terms. Do as you please, said the red man. But my resolution is not to be shaken by entreaties, nor otherwise.
And I go. He opened the door. The emperor followed, entreating him but to no purpose. The red man would not stop any longer. He went away, casting on his imperial majesty a contemptuous look and repeating in a stern voice, three months. No longer. Napoleon made no reply, but his fiery eyes darted fury, and he returned soonly into his cabinet, which he did not leave the whole day. Such were the reports that were spread in Paris three months before the fall of Napoleon Bonaparte, where they caused an unusual sensation and created a superstitious belief among the people that he had dealings with infernal spirits and was bound to fulfill their will or perish.
Who the red man really was has never been known, but that such a person obtained an interview with him seems to be placed beyond a doubt. Even the french papers, when Bonaparte was deposed, recurred to the fact and remarked that his mysterious visitance, prophetic threat, had been accomplished. What the heck, bro? Yeah, that is not in your high school history book. So, other versions of the Legend say the red man advised Napoleon against the invading of Russia and appeared to him in his coronation.
And on the eve of the battle of Waterloo. However, the stories say more about French. Oh, yeah. Down in the next paragraph, you’ll see what I was talking about. The same little red gnome thing. Medici’s other people. It was not just Napoleon. Napoleon was probably the most notable, obviously, because he’s Napoleon. I know who the red man was. Yeah. And if you look up. Look up. This was the red man.
No, forget the Mothman. Look up. All right, this is way better. Look up the name Rouge. So. N-A-I-N space. R-O-U-G-E-R-O-U-G-E. Yeah, that one. To the name Rouge, he’s literally a red, like, gnome devil in Michigan folklore. What? Yes. And it’s like the same little type of hobo goblin. Hobgoblin. Yeah, my bad. I’m retarded. There’s such thing as a hobo goblin, though, right? Probably. I’ve seen a few. Hold on.
I have to hop. Goblin. Oh, my God. I’ve been reading this wrong my entire life. All right. Representation of nine Rouge used to promote Detroit beer Company at the Detroit dwarf. Interesting. In Detroit, it’s french. You know what I mean? Yeah, this is wild. See, also Mothman. So we’re talking about. All right, here. This ties it all together. So you have the main rouge, which is part of Michigan folklore.
Like, someone in Detroit knows exactly what that is. Just like someone in New Jersey knows exactly what the Mothman is. The name Rouge is in Michigan. Michigan was part of the Louisiana purchase, where America bought that land from France. Who was the ruler? France. When we bought Louisiana? No, Napoleon. No, we bought Michigan from Napoleon. And they literally have this little red gnome demon running around Detroit, bro.
Just saying. Hobgoblin escaped to Michigan. Well, dude, it kind of ties in with the whole Bach tower thing, where the little gnomes were at shortly after the tower had been built. Kind of, sort of like in the area. That’s such a bizarre thing. And then Detroit was the center of the world up until the 60s for 30, 40 years with the automotive industry. And Crowley went to Detroit.
There’s a book about Crowley in Detroit by, I think, Kaczynski, Richard Kaczynski biographer. There’s all kinds of trippy ties. The Louisiana purchase was from Napoleon, and we bought all that territory from him because he needed to fund those wars. That’s why it was so cheap. Whoa, dude, that’s crazy. Yeah, that’s a crazy connection. So what do you think it was? What do you speculate this little red man was? Do you think it was? It reminds me of the unknown speaker, the shadow man, during the signing of the Declaration of Independence.
Right? Yeah. Manly P. Hall talks about. Yeah, that one should be, too. Yeah. To me, it is like a sort of haunting, archetypal figure that haunts the collective unconscious. And when it needs to make itself known, it makes itself known. Do you think that’s his hat on the French? The coat of arms? Could be. See, it’s got, like, a little freaking red hat. Yeah. See, you got the little red hat here and the one here.
That’s like an eye right there. Wow, bro. Dropping the hammer with the. What can we dub this? The Napoleon homunculi? Napoleon. Is there, like, another word for Napoleon that we can use that I’m like, Napoleon the bonaparte homunculus? This is crazy, dude. Reading about the name Rouge. It’s been seen in Michigan since the 17 hundreds. So before the Louisiana purchase, then. Before. Yeah. So what if. Crazier. I thought it was, like, modern folklore.
This is going on at the same time. So what if, again, it was, like something. So they call it the demon of the straight. What if something happens? What if it attached itself to him or them? But why would it visit other people before? You know what I mean? Yeah. I’d never heard of this before, dude. I’d never heard of. I know you had texted me about it, but I didn’t look any more into it.
And you brought it full circle. It’s crazy. I try my best. So, dude, you want to add anything else before we get out of here? This is great. We got a lot of stuff we talked about. We were all over the place. We talked about cart neoplatonism, devil automatons. We got alchemy. We got infant Jesus of Prague. We got some young in there. We got the red book.
Yeah, dude. Want to leave the people with something before we go? No, I can’t think anything too interesting. That’s like. It’s all good, bro. I’m going to be doing an episode on that gate, so if you want to join me on that, it’s going to be with homie. Romy. Yeah, I’m in for anything. Just let me know. I’ll be there. Because that’s a deep dive, bro. I’ll send you the name after, but I’m going to be in Kissimmee on Sunday.
Let me know. Yeah, I probably won’t be able to stop. See you. Just saying. There’s a gem show whack at Osceola, whatever you call it. Osceola park or something. There’s a huge wholesale jump show that we go to. Well, if I go, can you get me in with you as like a vendor with you? Yeah. All right. I’ll let you know then. See what time I have something on Sunday, but we’ll talk about it.
But as always, everyone make sure to, once Longo’s book is out, I’m sure. I don’t know if he’s going to want to plug it or not, but if he does, I’ll post a link. If it’s out by the time this is out, whenever. But make sure to follow the show tjojp. com at the Juan on Juan podcast on all social media platforms. If you’re on YouTube, Twitter, Instagram, wherever you are, comment, like, subscribe, leave a five star review.
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