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Summary
➡ The speaker discusses their dissatisfaction with the current state of politics, expressing concern over the perceived corruption and manipulation of power in Wall Street and Washington. They advocate for personal financial security through investing in physical gold and silver with American Hartford Gold, a company they trust. The speaker also shares their conservative political views, expressing disappointment with the Democratic Party’s shift to the left and the impact of progressive policies on immigration. They believe that the influx of immigrants is a strategy to secure votes and maintain political power.
➡ The speaker discusses their experiences during the riots, expressing frustration at the destruction and theft they witnessed. They question the justification of these actions as reparations and express distrust towards the government. They also discuss their views on the election, suggesting that it was stolen and expressing dissatisfaction with the voting process. The speaker ends by challenging others to provide examples of how Trump lied to the detriment of the American people.
➡ The speaker expresses her dissatisfaction with the MeToo movement, arguing that it has gone too far and can unfairly ruin a man’s life. She also criticizes the perceived bias against white men and the vilification of flirting. The speaker questions the qualifications of Kamala Harris and Bernie Sanders, suggesting they lack the experience to run the economy. She also shares her personal journey from liberal environments to her current views, and her disappointment in the political landscape.
➡ The speaker discusses their political journey, expressing regret for supporting certain politicians and campaigns. They express frustration with the handling of the COVID-19 pandemic, accusing officials of lying and causing unnecessary harm. They also criticize the impact of lockdowns on society, particularly on children’s education. Lastly, they call for accountability for those they believe have misled the public.
➡ The speaker discusses their negative views on Biden, citing past controversies and inconsistencies. They also express their plans to stay politically active, including releasing a book and helping the GOP in the midterms. They discuss their past experiences, including being arrested multiple times, and their current focus on promoting the right people into office. Despite their past, they express love for their country and a desire to contribute positively to it.
➡ The speaker expresses deep concern about Kamala Harris becoming president, feeling that she and others are spreading lies that harm people, especially in relation to COVID-19. The speaker also shares a personal experience of being falsely accused of misogyny and nearly deported from the UK, highlighting the lengths some people will go to silence others. The speaker praises a woman for standing up against these lies, despite the potential backlash. The speaker concludes by warning against trusting those who consistently lie, specifically referring to the current political administration.
➡ The speaker criticizes Gavin News for his political ambitions and actions in California, invites anyone for a debate on political matters, and appreciates a woman named Lindy Lee for her courage. He also expresses his respect for Bill Maher’s common sense and honesty, and criticizes the current state of the Democratic party. He ends by wishing safety, health, and blessings for everyone.
➡ The speaker criticizes Biden’s presidency, claiming he was not truly in control but was instead a puppet for his staff. The speaker also expresses disappointment in Jill Biden, feeling used for fundraising purposes. The speaker, who used to be an investment banker, has since switched political parties and convinced many of their wealthy friends to do the same, due to dissatisfaction with the Democratic party’s stance on certain issues. The speaker also criticizes the Democratic party for its support of transgender rights in sports, arguing it contradicts their stance on women’s rights.
➡ The speaker expresses frustration with the Democratic party, feeling that they are out of touch with the American people and are more focused on social issues than practical solutions. They also criticize the party’s leadership and question their decision-making, suggesting that they are influenced by wealthy individuals and corporations. The speaker feels that the party has strayed from its roots and is now unrecognizable, with a divide between moderate and progressive members. They also accuse the party of corruption, claiming that ambassadorships were being sold during the Biden campaign.
➡ The speaker criticizes Joe Biden and his family, accusing them of corruption and treasonous activities. They claim there’s enough evidence to indict them under the RICO Act. The speaker also discusses their own experiences with defamation and threats, and expresses concern about the future of the country under the current leadership. They believe that the public is being consistently lied to and fear that people will forget these alleged wrongdoings.
➡ The speaker expresses strong political views, criticizing Kamala Harris, Gavin Newsom, and Pete Buttigieg, and expressing support for Donald Trump. They voice concerns about the future of the country, particularly if Harris were to become president. They also discuss issues such as government waste, open borders, and the promotion of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) globally. The speaker identifies as a conservative environmentalist and a naturalized immigrant, and criticizes the current immigration system and DEI policies.
➡ The speaker discusses their frustration with visa processes, despite having a clean record and contributing positively to the countries they visit. They express disappointment with the perceived double standards, where they face difficulties despite doing things the “right way”, while others seem to bypass the system. They also discuss their motivation to make a positive impact in the world, and their experiences with political figures and celebrities. They end by discussing rumors about the Obamas and their own experiences with Michelle Obama’s brother.
➡ The speaker criticizes the Obama administration and its affiliates for mismanagement of funds and hiding Biden’s cognitive decline. They express disappointment in the Democratic party’s denial of these issues and their own experience of being ostracized for raising concerns. The speaker also accuses Nancy Pelosi and Dianne Feinstein of exploiting their positions for personal gain, and criticizes Pelosi for her alleged involvement in insider trading.
➡ The speaker criticizes certain politicians for not retiring despite their age and wealth, suggesting they should enjoy their remaining years with family instead of clinging to power. They also express frustration over perceived dishonesty and cover-ups within politics, particularly regarding Joe Biden and his family. The speaker believes these individuals should be held accountable for their actions to show the American people that such behavior is unacceptable.
➡ The speaker believes the 2020 election was influenced due to the suppression of information about Hunter Biden’s laptop. They also suggest that the events of January 6th were a setup, with inadequate security despite warnings, and that some people were unfairly punished. The speaker questions why Trump is criticized, asking for specific examples of his negative impact on the American people. They also express disappointment in mainstream media for not providing the full story.
Transcript
We all had to pretend. And I’m sorry, but I also pretended. I’m sorry. I wish I didn’t, but I felt I had no choice. This is a cult. This is like a religion. This sounds nuts, but they really think that it doesn’t matter what Americans think. This is just the right thing to do. They think that they’re standing against the Nazis, and we are the Nazis. Foreign welcome to another sit down with Michael Francis. Hope everybody is doing well. All is very good, very blessed on this end. As always, my friends, I give all the praise, honor, glory, and thanksgiving to our God for that.
I have a very special guest today. Her name is Lindy Lee. Some of you might be familiar with her. She’s been making the rounds on all the major podcasts out there ever since election night. Patrick Bet David, good friend of mine, and many, many others. And I would tell you this, I find her to be a very credible person. I’ve listened to many of the interviews, and also a very courageous person. Now, why am I saying courageous? Very simple. She was a lifelong Democrat, and she is now upset with the Democratic Party, and she’s getting death threats.
They’ve turned on her. Her family is getting death threats. Got to walk around with security in some places. And this is a very petite, you know, n. Who’s getting these kind of threats? I have to tell you something, people. There is a new mafia in town, and they are hiding in plain sight, and they are the progressive arm of the Democratic Party. We can see it just go on the news every night. I don’t know if you can see it on mainstream media, because they try to still cover up all this stuff like they did for years and years and years with Joe Biden.
Remember the summer of peace when people were getting, you know, shot out and buildings were getting burned and cops were getting killed and business was Getting, you know, thrown rocks at through the windows and stolen items out of all that stuff. Remember, that was a summer of peace, according to mainstream media. They didn’t show any of that because they lied to us like they did for four years with Biden. But, you know, it’s terrible. I mean, what these people are doing, inciting violence with Tesla, going after Tesla owners who bought the car. They may not even like Elon Musk, but you remember Elon Musk was the darling of the left when they were trying to impose electric vehicles on us.
Remember that? But since he is now, you know, trying to uncover fraud and abuse in government, now they hate him, so they turned on him to cannibalize themselves all the time. You know, the stuff that they’re doing. Representative MAXINE Waters. Go and get in their faces. You know, let them know, you know, inciting violence, all of them, they’re all doing this aoc, jumping around the stage like a nut. These people, you know, getting little toy Teslas banging on them, you know, and understand this people, this is not coming from them alone. All of these, you know, Democrats who claim that all the billionaires are in the Republican Party nonsense, that’s total garbage.
It’s all the billionaires like Soros and all the ones that hate Trump that are putting up the money for all of these people. These people don’t have the time to do this. They’re getting paid for it. They’ll do anything for money. That’s who they are. It’s so obvious. But this is the new mafia, trust me. You know, these people incite violence. They go after you, they want to hurt you. These are bad people out there. And this woman is now a target. And why is she a target? Well, she raised millions and millions of dollars for Kamala Harris, and she was lied to throughout.
And this, this money that she raised, because I heard her say this before, we’re going to get into it. She raised from friends, people that she knew, people that trusted her because she believed that Kamala Harris really had a shot. But now, you know, she’s got a different story out there. So she’s upset, and she has every right to be, because they lied to her, an insider, the same way they lied to us for four years, continuously lied to us. And she exposed some things, like, you know, big shot Oprah Winfrey, who really supported Kamala Harris, got over $2 million to support her Al Sharpton, $500,000 for an interview.
Are you kidding me? Who even watches him? You know, $500,000. I’m not surprised at all. I know Al Sharpton very well, have so many stories about him. He’s just doing the same thing now with a suit on that he used to do in a warm up suit with chains around his neck. That’s him. Same guy, you know, And Beyonce got paid, I believe, a million dollars to go up on stage. Wouldn’t even sing. So she was upset because she was told all along that Kamala really had a shot to win. And she never had a shot.
Never had a shot. So they lied to her just to get her money. The donors are upset with her. I’ve heard this on other interviews. Donors very upset with her because they feel that she should have known better. So she’s ostracized by people that she tried to, you know, help because she really believed in the Democratic Party. She’s not the only one. You know, there are a lot of people now that are defecting because of the lies and because of everything else. But I’m going to have a different conversation with her. And like I said, courageous woman.
And I got to tell you this, I’ve listened to other people that have tried to say that she’s not credible. A guy by the name of Roland Martin, he’s got a good platform, Very good platform. Well over a million views, a million subs. Good platform. But I listened specifically because he tried to say that she was not credible and he provided no facts. And Roland, I’d be happy to sit down with you anytime and we can debate this back and forth after I speak to her anytime. Because you didn’t give any facts at all. This was your opinion and you tried to make it sound like she wasn’t being credible.
Not so. If you want to sit and debate with somebody, do it with me. And let’s go facts. I’m happy to do that. I would love to sit down with the opposition and talk about facts. When it comes to the Biden administration and anything else, let’s sit down and talk facts. Because you have nothing to support. You know, all you guys do the same thing. It’s Trump hatred. You throw up all this stuff. He’s a Nazi, all this kind of stuff. You never provide any facts, you know, other than what your opinion is. So let’s sit down and talk.
But anyway, without any further delay, I’m very excited to talk to this very courageous woman. And I mean that. And I think you’re gonna come away with the same conclusion. My special guest, Lindy Lee. So, Lindy, really a pleasure to have you here. I’ve been looking forward to this for quite some time. You’ve certainly made the rounds. And you’re very bold about, you know, your positions right now, both with the DNC and now, you know, moving over to the conservative side, I would say, and I want to ask you this because this is something that right off the bat, and we’ll get into a lot of things that’s really perplexed me with the Democratic Party right now.
You know, you’re a conservative. You’ve been a conservative most of your life. I think that was your upbringing. I don’t understand. These people, to me, have seemed to gone off the deep end. There’s just no rhyme or reason or rationality to the way they’re behaving just as a normal person. Absolutely. I just don’t understand it. It baffles me as well, and I think they are so blind to it. They’re so straitjacketed by their woke and trans insanity, the lgbtqi. Plus, every year there’s a different. There’s another letter each of them is trying out extremist. The one before their virtue signaling their entire party is just virtue signaling.
I mean, the topless trans woman on the South Lawn, the Biden White House was the embodiment of the left wing extremism that has taken over the party. Not only that, we saw. I don’t even want to go there. And to vocalize that makes me sick. But the two guys in the Senate, in the halls of Congress doing that, you know what I mean? I mean, everybody knows what I mean. It’s just such a desecration of everything that we hold dear. That. That’s a hollow space. Those are the. The halls of power. I mean, these are sacred grounds.
And they did that. It’s just so unforgivable. You know, my friends, I’ve seen quite a bit in my life. I know what it is to have money. I know what it is to have power. I know what it is to have control. Not only in my business, but over people. And let me tell you this. Wall Street, Washington, they play the same games as we did on the Street. Make no mistake about that. They make the rules, they cash in. And regular people like us, they’re left holding the bag. Our debt out of control. The dollar, it’s losing value by the day.
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You could be. I grew up in the church. It was okay to be Christian and Democrat. Now, if you’re. If you have faith in the Democratic party, people think you’re stupid or you’re dumb or you’re somehow deluded. You’re not allowed to have faith or you’re not allowed to believe in a higher power and to elevate, like love. It’s just. It’s just. I don’t know. It’s just I come from an authoritarian regime and so much of it reeks of communism, frankly. Was your grandfather. If I remember, my grandfather was murdered. Was murdered by the communists. Thank you.
You did your homework. I’m seriously impressed. Thank you. Well, listen, you’re an impressive person. I know you. You went to Princeton, which is pretty much a liberal university, correct? Extremely liberal. Extremely liberal. But you managed to stay conservative throughout that time, yes. Okay. You were president of your class. First woman president for four years. Four years. I’m still actually president. Still actually president. Alumni president. So. So you’re making a point. When I grew up, my whole family was Democrat because they were the party of the blue collar worker. They were the party that allegedly cared about the people.
And I think they were back then, you know, but this dramatic and drastic switch that has occurred, it seemed like it just snuck up on us. I don’t even know how it happened. I think Obama was instigator. Yes. You know, he kind of forced his image of America on the restaurants. Rammed it right down our throats. And you see Michael. Oh, my gosh, I almost said Michael Obama. Yes. Such a Freudian slip. Well, I hope. Do you have any insight into that, by the way? Everyone asking that all the time. Because it’s like, I understand why people have their concerns.
Yes. But putting that aside for the time being, I just love how she thought she was going to start a YouTube sensation like you did. You’re running a little empire, I think, with 2 million followers. I think she had like 14, 000 last time I checked, or something like that. Yeah. I know she’s a former first lady we’re talking about, but she and her husband were very keen on elevating DEI versus merit. You know, giving people who didn’t really work their way, but because they had the right skin color, they elevated them. So I think he set the standard.
And the party has been lurching leftwards ever since. And of course, Bernie Sanders accelerated that with his socialism. I mean, it just. It’s just awful, man. And I fought a war against the Bernie bros five years ago, and they canceled me over that. So this is. I’ve been fighting the left flank for as long as I, you know, I can. And I don’t think I actually was moving to the conservative side. I think I’ve been on the conservative side, but I seem extremely far right right now because the party is so left. Yeah. And, you know, I had made this suggestion recently, and I think this would be appropriate.
The progressives, as part of that party, should break off and become their own party because they’re. They’re not in line with, I believe, mainstream Democrats that are pretty much centrist. They’re not extreme like this. At least the people that I know. And I have many Democratic friends. And they’re also appalled with the way the progressives are acting. Yeah. Though I think I’m too conservative for even the mainstream Democrats because I’m very strong on immigration. I don’t think that we should be extending asylum willy nilly. I think you should work for your rightful place in America. No one deserves to be here.
My family worked. I’m sorry, I. We worked our asses off to be here. My dad was a medical doctor. Now he’s in real estate. We created hundreds of American jobs. We never took a single hand out. And now you have these people just, like, rushing across the border, expecting everything. Expecting to be put up in a hotel every night. You know, there’s cash, cards. Why are we paying for them? Why aren’t we paying for Americans? But isn’t that the sensible approach? But no, I’m labeled a bigot and a racist for saying all. I understand that, but what’s the motive, in your view? What’s the motive behind opening up our borders and allowing all these immigrations? I’m going to say something that they’re really going to nail me for.
But let’s say the truth. Probably agree with you, but say it. We’ll nail us together. Let’s get now. So the Great replacement theory, they say that’s completely wrong. It’s neo Nazi. It’s white nationalist. But why are they trying so hard to pour these migrants into these cities, these battleground states, and then register them to vote? They’re just doing it for no reason. No, there is a reason. There is a reason. Because they want to solidify their power for generations. And they are not Americans. The people coming in are not Americans, Lindy. I’ve said that from day one.
I’ve said, but now we’re neo Nazis. Yeah, we’re neo Nazis. I said it from day one. There’s only one reason to do this. They want to register them all to vote. And they never want to be out of power again. They want to turn every state blue. There’s no other rational reason for this. Just like California. Yeah, to make the entire country like California. There’s no other rational reason. You get a guy like Biden who claims it was a humanitarian, he said, and meanwhile, you know, he’s. He’s got people being killed. I believe this. He has more blood on his hands than any president ever in my lifetime, at least, because this guy, and I have to say this, you know, I’m.
I’m a conservative Christian myself, but I have to go home at night and pray when Biden was in office not to hate him because I seen him destroying our country, basically. He’s got blood on his hands. He was just, you know, he didn’t care about people in their communities and their neighborhoods. And I’ve always said this, look, I came from a criminal lifestyle, but in our neighborhoods there was no crime. People that we cared about, you’re not going to mess with them. And I feel this guy just didn’t care about anybody here. Yeah, Michael, you’re right.
I also want to say, though, I don’t think. I mean, it’s not a matter of thinking. Biden wasn’t running the show. Okay. Like I, I know that we want to pin all the evil deeds on him, but it wasn’t him because he didn’t have the mental faculties to run the show. And I know because I was there. It was people like Steve Richetti, Mike Donnell and Anita Dunn and Jeff Zients. They were the running show. And he was essentially a puppeteer signing everything. Like he. We know now he was using auto, auto, pen ex. So yes, he bears responsibility.
I mean, the original sin was deciding to run at all and then to run again was just obscene. But these people tried so hard to cling to power and tried so hard to keep Biden in office even after the debate because they wanted to continue as the president. They were the presidents. We had like a council of presidents. And I want to make that abundantly clear to the nation because I still. Most people don’t know that. Well, I think people are seeing it now. I take a harder point of view on that and I agree with everything you said, but I think it was so irresponsible of him and I don’t have empathy for him.
I don’t. And maybe that’s wrong. But you know, as another man, I just can’t see somebody taking an oath to the highest position in the world really and saying they’re there to. For the benefit of the people that voted for them and then just act the way he acted. I mean, I have no empathy for him in that. Yeah, he’s so irresponsible. So he should have never allowed that to happen. But he did. And you’re right, there was a staff members and his people running the country. And you know who else? His wife, Lady McBiden. Is she.
You know, I have to be honest, Michael. In every single interaction that I had with Joe Biden, there were many. And I introduced him to my family. He was always kind. I have to give him credit for, you know, I have to. And I’m sorry, I can’t deny that he was kind to you always. I’m sorry, I wish I had something else. No, this is that’s everything I’m telling, telling you is from my heart. And he’s always kind, but that is not the vibe I got from Jill Biden at all. I felt used. I mean, she’s, I, I felt I was treated like a cash cow.
Well, I raised like millions of dollars from the DNC and everything. And I felt used and discarded. You know, I was basically another wallet. That was the. And I, I, I think I, having grown up in a tumultuous environment, I think I pick up on body cues very well. And that was the sense that I got from her. I, I just didn’t, I don’t think she really treated me like a human being. And she never appreciated all the, the dollars that you raised? No, I don’t think so. And let me ask you this. I’m curious. You know, how did you make all these contacts to, to be able to raise all this money? The thing people keep asking, but these are literally my friends and family.
I just asked them, like, at Morgan Stanley, I used to, I used to be investment banker. And then I just say, like, I come from an affluent background. A lot of my friends also happening wealthy and so they put their confidence in you. They did. They did. They call themselves Lindycrats, not Democrats, because a lot of them are conservative. They’re business people. They want a stable economy. And so actually, I’ve shifted many of them to the RNC right now. They’re also sick of the trans, you know, men and women’s sports insanity. These people just want a stable and prosperous America.
They don’t want any of the DEI stuff. They just don’t. It’s way too extreme for them. Well, let me ask you a question. Now that, you know, you’ve realized what was going on there and switched parties, because you’re now, would you consider yourself a conservative Republican at this point? Absolutely. Yeah. I already switched. Yeah. So these people, were they easily able to switch? Also, wasn’t even a hard sell. It wasn’t even a hard sell because we were complaining the entire time and the campaign, like, what the hell’s going on? Like, what the hell? Like, it was.
I, you know, first it was, can Biden really run? Like, what is he thinking? But we don’t really have a choice. It wasn’t a hard sell. I think all, all it took was a nudge. And they were so the, the Democrats, they are in such dire straits. And the former chair is still attacking me every single week. He’s, he’s such a sad, sad man. I’m writing a Book his Jamie Harrison. I’m calling him Jamie Fon. He is just like he, he’s, he’s a guy who raised $60 million to run against Lindsey Graham and lost, yet they elevated him to the chair of the party and he spends his, and this is a grown man almost double my age, spending his days attacking me for exposing him for covering up Biden’s age.
You, you really have nothing better to do with your time? You don’t want to spend time with your family. Instead, he’s on acts, obsessing over me. I never respond, but it’s just so sad and pathetic. Yeah, you shouldn’t respond to that. You know, and I noticed there’s a fellow by the name of Roman Martin or Raymond Martin, I think Roland Martin. Roland Martin, Yeah. You. I wasn’t on. He just does like four episodes about me. Oh, is that what he did? Well, I have to tell you, he was very disingenuous because I watched it, I wanted to watch it.
And he kept calling you a liar. But you never lied. You never lied. Like I literally am asking, I keep asking him, what do I, what do you think I lied about? Well, and I’m saying that, and I would, I would say something. You never lied. Okay, what he was trying to then call you a flip flop. And my response to him, well, look at all the people now that are flip flopping after they lose the election and decide that, you know, what was going on before wasn’t correct. But he was, he was very disingenuous. He lied, actually, about you.
You never lied through that interview. You know what, do you know why President Trump won? Because millions of people changed their minds. So is, are you calling tens of millions of Americans pathological liars, or are you calling them having the grace and humility to realize they were wrong and they changed their minds? Yes. What’s wrong with that? Well, thank God, like, you know, John Maynard Keynes, I can’t believe this boring economist said, you know, when faced with new facts, you should have the courage to change your mind. Exactly. Abraham Lincoln said something similar as, well, we would be in, we would, would be in deep trouble if no one ever changed their minds.
Absolutely. And, you know, there’s nothing wrong with, I always say this respectful disagreement. I tell people all the time, you have a respectful disagreement with me. You, you should voice it. I mean, that’s what this country was built upon. You know, that’s why we have two parties. People have said to me, would you want to eliminate the Democratic Party? Of course not. We shouldn’t have one party. We should have a multi party system in this country for a diversification of ideas. I totally agree with that. But you’re right. And the problem with the party now is they’re just doubling down.
You know, it shows you even more. They don’t care about what the people say, what the people think. They think they’re taking a righteous stand by sticking up for men and women’s sports. They think they’re doing the right thing. They literally think they’re being Jesus Christ in this situation. But you know, I’ve never been around people like that. And you have what motivates them, why they, they literally think they’re doing the right thing. Like, I get. How could they feel that way? The current vice chair of the DNC is a guy named Malcolm Kenyatta in addition to David Hogg.
You know David Hogg, the guy who looks more anorexic than me? Yes, yes. But the other guy is a guy named Malcolm Kenyatta. He sends me a party to some political fundraisers. It’s like politics with drag queens. And I was just like, like, you know me, why do you think this would be up my alley? It just like they think that they are spreading the gospel of like drag queens and trans. They think they are, they think they are elevating the minds of Americans. But why are they doing that? Because here’s the thing. This is this group of people, Let me be kind.
They’re in the minority, there’s no question about it. They also, the Democratic Party allegedly stands for women’s rights. Always talking about women. Well, how could they do the complete reverse and advocate for having men, transsexual men compete against women? It makes no sense. Because they think Sarah McBride. Tim McBride is a woman. He’s not. They just, they think that he has every right to be a woman. I can’t even say that with. I just like, I’m sorry, I’m getting upset. But they, they can’t really believe that. They really do. And the thing is, you said that you get along with your mainstream Democrats.
You said at the top. The thing is, I can’t even get along with them anymore because I. At a top donor. We had a top donor dinner two weeks before the election. They completely lied to us, by the way. They said that comma would win three to four battleground states. I mean, we all saw how that turned out. But they had Tim McBride speak at that dinner. And I was just sitting there thinking, oh my God. Like I, this is two weeks before the election. I was sitting Next to the founder Zillow, like extreme. Like wealthy people.
And they were applauding her. They. They really bought into it. And I was the only one sitting there thinking, I do not want any of this. I don’t want to be a part. I actually left early. I. I went there for Josh Shapiro, who’s the most moderate Democrat, actually. And also he appointed me commissioner of Pennsylvania. So I’m. I. I have a duty to show up for him. But Tim McBride was the headliner. It was just gross. But don’t they understand, you know, politically, it’s not smart, because this group of people, and they’re in the extreme minority, but they think.
They. They really. I. This sounds nuts, but they really think that it doesn’t matter what Americans think. This is just the right thing to do. So in your experience, they really don’t care about the American people, what they’re. Which is so. It’s just so crazy, because these American people that they have to depend upon to stay in office or to be in office, they think that they’re standing against the Nazis. We are the Nazis. They think. They really. So this is the mentality. They really have. Think that. And some of the top donors, like millionaires, think this.
So the RAW isn’t just at the grassroots level. It’s like, all the way to the top, too. All right, let me ask you another thing. Other than this, social things that they’re always talking about, did they have any plan or agenda whatsoever for this country to counter what Trump is doing now? Because I notice now, you know, I’m very into it, like you are. All they ever do is go anti Trump. They have no solutions. They have no plan. They have no agenda. They have nothing. They have nothing. Absolutely nothing. The leader of the party is a guy named Ken Martin.
Have you ever heard of him? No. Exactly. Exactly. This is the chair of the party right now. This is the head honcho. And the Bidens want to get back in, which is how bad it is. And Kamala is going to. She’s trying to be her governor now. I have a book coming out this fall which will be a searing indictment on her, and hopefully we’ll put an end to any. But she wants to be the governor of this state. Newsom screwed this up so badly. I hope you weren’t. Were you impacted by the fires? No, we weren’t.
A lot of friends were, because we’re about 40 miles south of there. A lot of friends that we know were, but we weren’t. But the way that they mishandled that was unforgivable. And now she wants to be governor, and Tim Walls is thinking about running for president. These people just don’t get it. He’s a lunatic. He’s an absolute lunatic. Did you meet him? I. Not only did I meet him, I mean, I. She. She invited me to be there at her announcement on August 6th in Philadelphia. I was in the VIP line and I’m pretty sure he got.
Gave me Covid because I felt. I felt completely sick for like two weeks. I. It was the. I was the sickest I’ve ever been. I had to get like an. I don’t have asthma, but I had to get an inhaler. I couldn’t breathe. So, I mean, I just. From him. Somebody in that room is either Fetterman or Shapiro or Jasmine Crockett or some other dude I don’t even know. Somebody in that room had Covid. Gosh, I didn’t walk in with COVID so. So I got desperately sick. And what was your impression of. Of Waltz? I try to be nice.
I try to get, you know, I try to give everyone a benefit doubt because I was in a cult. I wanted to give. I wanted to think kindly of everybody. That’s always my mentality. But then I realized, wow, this guy’s a pathological liar. Who would say that they were in Tiananmen Square when they were actually in Nebraska? Like, how. Why would anyone in God’s name think that would be an okay thing to say? It’s not even Shanghai versus Tiananmen. It was like Nebraska versus. Exactly. What was the rationale behind choosing him versus? Well, I know exactly what it is, because Harris was intimidated by Josh Shapiro, who is obviously better than her.
I mean, everyone is better than her. Yeah. Shapiro’s a smart guy. He is a smart guy. Yeah. But was that really her pick or was she influenced? There is a puppeteer behind the scenes by a guy named Tony west, who is her brother in law. He’s worth $60 million. He’s the chief legal officer of Uber. So Uber actually had a huge influence on that campaign because guess who else was running that campaign? David Plouff, Obama’s guy who also works Uber. Wow. So Uber actually had its tentacles on the entire campaign, and it was them that influenced her to pick.
Exactly. Tony ran the VP selection process. So I have to come to the conclusion these are not very bright people. Absolutely not at all. No, no, no. And who else, you know, who else is involved in that process? Eric Holder. Remember who he was? Yeah. Obama’s Attorney General. Obama Helicoptered his loyalists in. He was really running for his fourth term. Did he want Harris? Because, you know, we’ve heard a lot of mixed things, that he didn’t really want her. He didn’t really want her. He was stuck with her and had to make the best of it.
So is what we’re hearing about Biden picking her out of spite? Oh, I know that’s true. Yeah, it is true. It’s true. But also, James Clyburn asked him to. Really? James Clyburn. Biden owes everything to James. Without James, his presidency wouldn’t have happened because he came in fifth place in New Hampshire and he bombed in Iowa, and he was. He was on the verge of political death. But then, you know, everyone rallied behind him. Amy Klobuchar, Pete Buttigieg, who I think is an. By the way, but like, I rarely say someone is an asshole, but that.
That team is just extremely. And now I understand he wants to run for president. He certainly wants to run for president. I. I’m telling you, I am. I am such at a loss. I just look back, trying to be a rational person. I’m a business guy myself, and I say, how do these people make these decisions, realizing it’s a losing proposition? Everything that they’re bringing forward, they really have to, like you said, take a. I don’t know what kind of look they have at the American people. They think they’re as crazy as them. I don’t understand it.
And I have said, you know what? They should break away if they think they will appeal to a certain sector of people. Take these progressives, AOC and Bernie and all of these guys. Let them become their own party and see how well they fare. And eventually they’ll go away and let the smart Democratic people that I grew up with and hopefully still exist. Some of them, I know, I have friends. Let it be the party that it once was. Because, you know, I’m older than you, Lindsey. A lot older. You’re not 25. No, but you know what? There was a time with Democrats and Republicans, there wasn’t that much difference between the two parties, even like 20, 30 years ago.
Yeah, it wasn’t that much difference. And you never had this extreme anger with every back and forth. That’s what I mean. That’s. That’s how I grew up. People ask me how I was a Democrat. That’s the reason. Exactly. Because it wasn’t that much different. Yeah. And I tell you that I said this many times. We used to, you know, on the street, we were more Democrats because they were easier to corrupt back then. The politicians. Exactly. They were always on the take, so easy. And the Republicans with a law and order. So we stayed away from them.
You know, that’s how criminals thought back then. Yeah. You know, and I think it’s still that way to a large degree, but, you know, I don’t. Oh, absolutely. I mean, this is something I’ve never said on air. You ready for this? Yes. I know for a fact that the Com Law and Biden campaigns were selling, essentially selling ambassadorships. Like, you give this much, we’ll put you down for so. And which such and such country. I know that. I’ve spoken with top donors. I have it on text. People were promised countries. Like you raised 2 million. You give a million for this, we’ll give you like Finland.
Doesn’t surprise me one bit. Yeah. I want to get back to something. Joe Biden, all of this. And I’ll put it to you this way. The investigation that the rnc. What’s the name Comer did on him with respect to his treasonous. I call that dealings between him and his. And his. And Hunter and his family. All the information that they’ve uncovered between the text messages, the suspicious bank records, the money coming into their accounts, the whistleblowers, there’s more evidence to. To at least indict them under the RICO Act. And I had three rico, so you would know.
Yeah. Oh, I had three. I had to defend myself three times. There was more evidence against them to indict them for RICO than for you. They go to trial innocent until proven guilty. Then there was. In any one of my cases, he is an absolute. What they did was. It’s treasonous. This is another reason why I look at him. I said, this guy sold out his country. And he did it while he was vice president, while he had all his faculties, or at least most of them back then, before he became president. And they whitewashed this too.
What kind of people are these that sit back and allow their country to be undermined like this? And to have somebody in power. That was treasonous. And they covered it up, you know, and Lindsay, these are bad people. Yeah, they’re bad people. You’re totally right. And on top of that, he uses drug addict son as. Like he was his errand boy, essentially. Yeah. And you know what? His son, the reason he supported him, because he was complicit in his son’s activities. It wasn’t like his son did this and didn’t know what he was doing. He was complicit.
He was taking money as a result of that, and he. You know what else, Lindsay? What is this? This. This. I don’t even know what to call it. They just lie and lie and lie and lie, and they don’t even care anymore. I’ve never witnessed anything like this. And you’re taught you’re speaking to a guy that was on the street with some people that would do almost anything. They just lie continuously. I don’t care who. Who. Who sees them. They don’t care about their image. It’s. It’s terrible. Exactly. Anytime you call Biden out, you’re excommunicated, destroyed, discredited, defamed.
You’re not allowed to point at any of the holes. You just can’t. And even when Biden was clearly his brain was melting in front of the entire world, no one was allowed to say a single thing. We all had to pretend. And I’m sorry, but I also pretended. I’m sorry. I wish I didn’t, but I felt I had no choice. Well, yeah, I mean, you would have been. I mean, look what they did to me. Now. My parents have been threatened. Death threats. My parents got death threats. Well, they. They threatened to. They threatened to kill me, but they sent the death threats to my family because they knew their address.
I live in a skyrise. They can’t reach me, so they reach my parents instead, who live in a home. I actually. Have you heard of Frank Palumbo? The gangster out in Philadelphia? Yes, we. My parents live in his old home. In his old home. Well, that might protect him a little bit. Who knows? Give people pause. See, there’s connection there. You know? You know, I have come to the conclusion that these are very bad, Evil people. Yeah, evil people. The way they’ve conducted themselves, the way they lie. Yeah. They’re bad people in the way that they defame me is so, so bad.
It’s so. And how are you holding up my soul? It’s been so bad, Michael. But the thing is, I also have to be completely honest here. There are lunatics. Well, there is one lunatic on the right. I don’t want to name names because I don’t want it to happen to me again. But the things that they’ve called me have been so obscene, I’ve had to hire a lawyer, Tim Paulatori, also a python. He’s great. Just. He’s Trump’s lawyer, by the way, because the defamation was so extreme. Really? Yeah, I was. I’ve also never said this because I.
The thing is, like, people say what every time I mention something like this, they say I’m playing the victim, but when I’m stating the facts, how is that playing the victim when I’m just telling you what happened? I’m not asking for your sympathy. I’m a strong chick. I can handle it. I’m clearly fine. But it doesn’t negate the fact that it happened to me. In the middle of February, there was a cancel campaign against me for the crime of telling the truth. I didn’t do anything other than tell the truth. But there are some figures on the right who think I skipped the line, and the people on the left think that I exposed them.
So both sides were angry at me. Hmm. There were a few days when I was just coughing up blood because I was under so much strain, I didn’t know how to stop it. I also, I think I have, like, clotting issues. So I had a bowl next to my bed because in the middle of the night, I would just have to spit it out. You can’t swallow it. Just gross to smell, you know, to swallow it. And it took, like, two or three days for my throat to clot or whatever was happening. I have no idea what was going on.
I still. To this day, I don’t know what happened, but I was under so much strain, and every few hours, I’d brace myself for another attack. It was really bad. Really bad. And even today, I think I had p. We don’t have to go in, but I have PTSD from my childhood. Some weird happened to me, but I’ve had psychologists who watch my interviews saying that you’re. You’re like a walking case of PTSD and it’s fine. Again, I’m not asking for anyone’s sympathy. I’m just. I’m just telling you. I’m just telling you that people on the left will destroy you for pointing out any flaws in the party.
And there are some people on the left who are upset and want me to wait in line because, I don’t know, I’m not trying to take anything from anybody either. So I think it’s a little. Little bit of a overreaction on their part, But. Such as? When you say wait in line, what do you. What do you mean? They want you to. They think that I’m trying to get a job in the Trump administration, which I don’t. There’s no way I would work in the government. But they just make up these fantasies about me trying to get close to Trump.
I don’t want any of that. They lie all the Time. They absolutely lie all the time. These. You know, I’ve been saying to my people, because what I’m concerned about is not only these four years, but the next four years. And I. I come up a certain way. Somebody lies to you once, all right, things happen, you know, second time, you start to get a little crazy. Third time, I mean, how many times you’re going to lie to somebody and keep a relationship with them? And what I keep telling people is they’ve been lying to us consistently.
They lied to us for four years about a president that wasn’t really the president. They’ve lied to us about everything. You can never trust these people again. Because I’m worried about. Look, my fear is I have seven children. I have seven grandchildren. We have more on the way. I’m worried about the future of our country for them. Not worried about myself. I’m going to survive no matter who’s in office. You know, it doesn’t matter to me, but I’m worried about the future of our country because I happen to love this country and I love my kids.
So I’m worried about setting it up for the future. And you cannot trust people that consistently lie to you. And the problem with Americans, maybe it’s across the world, I don’t know, is we tend to forget. Like, you have our governor now, who’s now got his own podcast and trying to go mainstream because he wants to run for president. But are people gonna forget the horrendous job that he did here, that people died in fires because this guy was you, wasting money and not doing what he was supposed to do? And all worried about, you know, fighting Trump and supporting Biden when he knew Biden was, you know, had dementia.
You can never forget these things. Not only did he support Biden, he was the number one surrogate. He was strongest advocate for America. Exactly. But my fear is people are going to forget. You know, he’s going to have two, three years. You’re going to try to move forward. That’s why we need you. We need people like you. We have to. We have to keep telling people. And yourself. Yeah, that’s actually why I keep doing this. I have a vested interest in keeping Kamala Harris and Gavin Newsom and Pete Buttigieg out of office. I know them better than anybody.
Lindy, I will support you 1000%. I would be very vocal about it, because, like I said, I’m going to be 74 years old. What are you going to do to me? But I have kids and grandchildren. I’m really Concerned about if Kamala Harris were to become president. I’ve said this. This country was done. We could not take another four years of the mess that they created. It’s that serious, in my view. And I have no reason to make this up or say I don’t know Trump. He doesn’t do anything for me. You know, I’m worried about my country.
You know, one thing Donald Trump said all along, what they did to that man was absolutely horrible. I’ve never seen vengeance like this to come after somebody the way they did. They tried to bankrupt him, they tried to put him in jail, they tried to kill him. This. There’s something psychotic about this, you know, like is this. And I. And I often said this. I look back. I even talked to friends that knew him. Was this guy really a devil that we don’t know about? What did Trump do? Did he children. What did he do that.
This is such venom. I know what he did. He didn’t go along with these people. He don’t care about them. He wants to stop the gravy train and drain the swamp, and that’s what’s killing them. Them. That’s it. Yeah. Remember back in the day when he actually extended kindness to Hillary Clinton and yes, he donated to Kama’s campaign. Yes, I know. Suddenly he’s now like, it’s just Lindy. They loved him at one point when he was on the Apprentice and he did. They loved this guy. And I know. I grew up in New York, Ron. I know the guy.
I know about him. Well, I don’t know him well. I know about him. Well, they loved him. All of a sudden he runs for president and really wants to help the country and they turn on him. People are not seeing this. And that’s why we have to be vocal about it because we got to protect our country and our children and the future of this country. It’s that serious, I believe. And I’ve told her we would have been dead. Kamala Harris gets into office. We’re finished. We’re absolutely finished. Because we couldn’t take another four years of what they did between the open borders.
You know, this insanity. Insanity, you know, and they lie about it. Is gender affirming surgery, which is mutilation in children. How could any thanks for calling it what it is. It’s mutilation, period. And I’ve listened to some of these poor kids that were. And then you want to take the parents away from making decisions. That’s what made Elon go. Yes, this is because he’s what, 13 kids? I mean, whatever. He is 14 now, actually. 14. But I mean, it’s insanity. These people are insane. And if we don’t keep talking about it and putting in normal people’s minds, people don’t go along with this.
It’s just like, you know, we have better insight. You are on the inside. I’ve been around. I’m watching these people blow up Teslas. These are not people that just woke up and said, I’m going to blow up a Tesla. There’s money behind this. There’s people supporting them. George Soros and those people, and they’re like, oh, you can’t mention George Soros because it’s anti semitic. But guess what? He’s actually the guy spending millions on the Sunrise movement. He just poured 4 million doll dollars into the Wisconsin Supreme Court base. He is the money. So they’re kind of, they’re, it’s their shield.
We’re not allowed to criticize them because everything we say is anti Semitic all of a sudden. It’s a misuse of the ant of the term. But it just. I’m actually, you know, if I were to describe myself, I would just say I’m a conservative environmentalist. For people to blow up Teslas, so called Democrats, the party of climate change, to do that is just the height of hypocrisy. It breaks my. It breaks. Well, these people are cannibals. They eat up their own positions when it benefits them. They’ve been for electric cars for how long? Now all of a sudden they’re going after the main provider of electric cars.
And women’s rights. And women’s rights. And now even Chuck Schumer. I mean, I just watch them cannibalize themselves and it makes no sense to me. And I’m trying to be rational and say I really want to understand people’s positions. I just can’t make sense of this. They literally think they’re doing the right thing. I have a hard time believing that. How could they believe they’re doing the right thing? They really do. They really think that inclusivity and black is God. They really do. All right, let me ask you this rational person with $36 trillion in debt in this country, 36 trillion taxpayers didn’t cause that.
We’re giving them the money. It’s government irresponsibility that caused that. Okay, so now you have a guy that’s coming in that says, okay, we can show where the government waste is. We can show where it’s abused. He’s trying to clean it up and they hate him for it. It can only mean one thing. They’re on the take. They’re benefiting from it, and that’s it. So they’re admitting that they’re thieves. They’re admitting that they’re frauds. That’s totally right. There’s also a segment of the pop who thinks that we have a duty to help people in Africa or whatever.
My point of view is, can we please help the people in America first? Yes. You know, it’s like you’re in an airplane, but if you need oxygen. What do they say, Michael? It’s another neo Nazi point. We’re not allowed to say that. It’s just so crazy. America first, in their eyes, is a racist ideology. For me, I love my country, okay? It’s a patriotic thing to do to take care of our people for first. I’m sorry. I’m not going to apologize for that. I care about Americans first and foremost, of course. And it’s just. Yeah, you’re not allowed to say you don’t want to fund transgender operas in Europe, wherever that was universe.
Well, you know what I realized when I saw what’s being exposed, you know, with this government abuse and waste and all the DEI agenda that they’re promoting around the world. World. I’m saying, okay, they don’t only want to impact this country. They want to destroy the nuclear family, and they want to make that a worldwide agenda because there’s no other reason for them, you know, promoting DEI in countries that Trump said, well, I never even heard of this country, you know, some of them that he was talking about, why would they do something like that if they weren’t getting money back and they weren’t trying to impose this philosophy? And also branching off of what you just said, which is totally true.
Japan. Countries like Japan want to be homogenous as possible. They want to keep their country Japanese. But for us to want to close our borders, suddenly we’re racist. Ooh, exactly. You know, why can’t America. We’re not even saying we want to be, like, all white. We just want to close. We just want to have strong borders to vet everyone that comes in. We don’t want terrorists in our country, but we’re not allowed to do that because we’ll be racist. Well, it’s not only that. I mean, what’s his name, the head of the FBI that just left? I forget his name.
Chris Wray. Yeah. Chris Wray gets on national TV several times and says, we have terrorist cells in this country that have come in and it’s imminent. Something is going to happen. We don’t know when, when they’re telegraphing that to everybody. And people are still saying, well, it’s okay to keep the borders open. That’s insanity. I don’t even understand that. And Chris Wray was no fan of, of Donald Trump, obviously. Yeah. So he’s telling the American people, and he’s telling the people on the, on the left that we have terrorists in this country, and he doesn’t know who they all are.
And an attack is not when or not if, it’s when. And they still want to keep the borders open. To me, that’s insanity. I’m, honestly, Michael, I’m probably so far right on immigration. I’m off the charts. I’m speaking as a naturalized immigrant. That’s why I feel so strongly about it, because my family and I waited years. We came the right way. We filled out the forms. We didn’t take any handouts. We came with 200 bucks. We didn’t need DEI to rise up through the ranks. We worked our asses off, okay? And also as an East Asian woman, I’m the.
I’m the demographic that’s most dinged by the DEI stuff because we have the highest test scores. So I’m not a fan of any of this. But it’s just. It’s just heartbreaking to see people just jump the line. When my parents, parents, you know, we were persecuted by the ccp. You know, we didn’t depend on asylum. We came here because of our skills. We brought useful things that America could benefit from, which is the way it’s supposed to be. Right? We don’t want to. We don’t want parasites, we don’t want leeches. You know, I don’t want, you know, no one should be living off the American taxpayer.
It’s just not fair. We already, like you said, we’re so much in debt. And it’s not only that. You were talking about. I have a tour going on in Australia next week. Right. I’ve been to Australia probably seven or eight times in the past 10 years. Every time my, my record is 30 plus years old. And I’ve been a reformed person since then, doing what I do. I still don’t have my visa approved. I have to go through the same every single time. And I have a track record. How long have you been there? So long.
I’ve been there seven, eight times. Always get approved, but they take me to the last meal. Last time I got approved on this huge tour was the day before I was ready to leave. We only saw. We had to cancel the whole tour. Wow. And now I’m supposed to leave on Monday. I still don’t have my visa, so. But I’m saying I did everything the right way. Yeah. You know, people are just like waltzing through the street. Exactly. Yeah. And they justify that. Yeah. Yeah. Do you know that I’ve been going to Canada my whole life and same process.
Same exact process, only better because my conviction is further removed and I have more references and I have people. I have the, the wealthiest person in Canada, one of the world. Jimmy Patterson, a good friend of mine, he’s worth billions of dollars. Okay. A good friend of mine, I’ve appeared with him in places. The last time I went to immigration, they wouldn’t let me in. And I said, why? My track record, my conviction is even further removed. It’s 30 some odd years. One of the most well known, famous, like born again cases in the world. Yeah.
They just decided arbitrarily. That group that night decided they didn’t want to let me in. And I, and I go through the same process, slap in the face that criminals can just like come in. Meanwhile, you are having a. They didn’t, they didn’t even care that we had tour set up with people coming and everything. They didn’t care about their own people. Caused them financial ruin and everything because of that. Because they had a whole thing set up and I couldn’t. And they wouldn’t let me in. So. Are you on tenter hooks right now? Just waiting.
Well, with, Yeah. I mean, we have, have, I think six states in Australia and as a, and a lot of money was spent and a lot of tickets were sold. And as of this moment, I’m supposed to leave Monday and I don’t have my visa. And then the problem with that, the host that’s bringing me over the airfare keeps going up. Oh, my God. Yeah. So they, and they don’t care. But, but the point is I’m doing it the right way regardless. But you shouldn’t have to because you’ve proven yourself over and over again. Meanwhile, these criminals are just marching through.
It’s just not fair. Yeah. Such a double standard. I, I, and, and they think it’s okay. And that’s why I’m saying I, I, you’ve said it and I’ve agreed with you. You said, I said, okay, this is a cult. This is like a religion. It is progressive religion, totally. Because they have no religion. They don’t have this. They just don’t have Religion, they have no sensible about God. Let me ask you, have you. How have you been accepted by the people in the Trump administration? Now, anybody specifically, are they. How. How have you been accepted by.
Lara saw me getting bullied. She swooped right in and had me on her show. It was so kind of her. Lara Trump. Yes. She’s been amazing. RNC co chair has been amazing. Casey Crosby. It’s just, you know, I’m not even, I’m not even looking for anything. You know, people think I’m doing this for favor. I don’t need anything from the administration. I’m not looking for a job job. I don’t have to. Honestly, I hate to say this, but I’m not in it for money. I don’t have to work a single day of my life. My family owns a lot of real estate.
I can just cruise. So I. So what motivates you? This is a, to not leave an impact on this world would be devastating. I know you would feel the same way. Yeah. A mediocre life would be a condemnation. It’s just, it would be a, it would be a cross to bear. Well, so you have skills and you have ability and you’re intelligent, obviously self made person. Born to do. Yeah. And so you want to contribute. This is just the way. This is the way it’s got to be. There’s no other choice. I know you feel the same way because I see it in you and your beautiful wife.
I just, this is the, this is what we were put on this earth to do. And I realized more and more that we are on borrowed time. And honestly, love is all that matters in making an impact. There’s really nothing else. Do you think that sensible people will win this battle? Because when I see them now on the left, doubling down, going against the will of the people. Donald Trump said something, he said this consistently and he’s so right. When he got up there during his campaign, he said, they’re not doing this to me, they’re doing this to all of you.
And he was so right in saying that because whatever they do to him has far more impact on us. Right. And that’s the scary thing in the way that they hate us. Yeah. I’ve been abandoned by all my friends, all of my friends. And they. Have you, have you had the opportunity to reason with them or talk sensibly with them? No, I mean, a lot of them, I realize, you know, it’s almost like I go through the people that I follow on Instagram and I realized, wow, this person unfollowed me. This person unfollowed me. This person blocked me.
Like people that I thought were my friends. Just no explanation. They just. Are these people involved in any way in politics or just friends, even just normal people? Yeah. I was banned from the Biden White House just for asking money about. I was the one who exposed Oprah. They spent $2.5 million on Oprah. I was one who spoke up about that. So that. That got me banned from the White House. I used to have like an open invitation. I got banned by their naval observatory as well. I used to hear from members of Congress and senators on a daily basis, mostly because they wanted my money.
But I only heard from one person. She was actually really nice. She’s Grace Manga. She said, you know, I know we’re on separate teams now, but I just wanted to say Happy New Year. That was the only thing I’ve ever heard from that side. Let me ask you, going back to that. So Oprah lied. I never got paid any. But it was obviously her production company. She definitely got paid. I mean, we have the paperwork. I don’t know why she keeps saying she does. We literally have the paperwork. Like, sometimes people lie and there’s no proof.
We literally have the proof in this case. So why do you keep lying? Because she figures it’ll never come out. You know, that’s all Beyonce. She was definitely paid. Yeah. All she herself. All these people have production companies. Yeah. So I guess they can say, like, I never got a personal. Exactly. Yeah. It was their company. Yeah. It’s. They all got paid. No one did it from their kindness to their hearts. Even Cardi B got paid. She did. So nobody really supported Kamala Harris from the heart. They supported her because there was something in it for them.
Oh, absolutely. I’m sure, like, Obama was even like comp. Obama was compensated through his production company. God, like, he needed the money. Right. But these people, they’re just so. They’re such cheap stakes, you know? Is it really all about the money with them? Have you seen his little island on Martha’s Vineyard? Heard of it, but I haven’t seen it. No, it’s just in his 60, 60 year birthday party. It was just extravaganza. He’s living large and we hear that his marriage is on the rocks. Have you heard that about the Jennifer? Do you have any inside information about their marriage is on the rocks? I can’t confirm.
I don’t. I can’t confir the Jennifer thing. I don’t know if that’s happening for sure. But there’s. Because Craig Robinson, Michelle Obama’s brother, went to Princeton. I went to Princeton. I actually, we ended up having lunch, and it took me the entire lunch to realize it was her brother because he just introduced her himself as Craig. I, I, he’s not a famous face. Didn’t realize it was him. That’s the one he she’s doing the podcast with. Exactly. Yeah. You can tell from her talk that there’s. There’s trouble in paradise. I hate to go down this, but did you see her hair is like three knots? Like, you know, that stuff is important because it signifies to America the American people.
Like, are you with it or not? Like, are you on the same planet or not? You’re. You’re right. And she clearly isn’t. She’s still living on Planet dei. But let me ask you this. I was shocked that she drew so little an audience on her podcast because I thought the Obamas, wow. They’re just still in the eyes of the leg. Oh, here’s something that I also haven’t said. So although I’m no longer part of the dnc, the DNC donor class, I still have ears. People are so pissed at Obama. Not only are they pissed at Obama, they’re pissed at Obama world.
The. I mean, and because they. Who made the money, okay, billions of dollars were wasted, but it must have gone into somebody’s pocket. Of course. And where did that go? It went to four Democratic firms. And who are they run by? They’re run by Obama veterans. Like Bully Pulpit International. That’s run by Obama veterans. And you had the pod, Save America Bros. The all Obama veterans. And who was running Comma’s campaign? Jenna, Mali Dillon. Who lied to us? These are all Obama people. Who is David Plouffe? The person who ran Obama’s campaign. So the donor class is so pissed at the Obama.
The entire Obama world. They hold Obama responsible. They do. They finally do. They finally do. And that’s why they’re having such a hard time raising money. And I’m proud to have been a part of that. They are now seen in the eyes of the American people as frauds. And that. That is my legacy. I think I, I’ve done my part because they are frauds. And the way that they’ve come after me for simply calling them out for it, like, what have I done, really? I, I called them out for the mismanagement of the funds, and I called them out for hiding Biden’s cognitive decline.
And I, I didn’t just call them out after after election, I raised it a year, two years in advance. I had dinner with Ken Martin, the current chair, in September of 2023. I had the receipts, I had the pictures. I had Wendell Pierce, the guy from the Wire. Remember the guy who went, shit, that guy. He was standing to my left. My brother, 24 year old. My brother was standing to my right. I speaking with Ken, I was like, what are we going to do? Like Biden, don’t you think he’s little? Like, I can’t remember my exact wording, but the gist of my statement is, don’t you think he’s a little.
Not with it? He’s like, don’t worry about it. He’s totally fine. This is September 2023. We were in Chicago. Kamala Harris was joining us for dinner that night. He lied to me and told me it was fine and made me feel like I was stupid. I was actually questioning my own, like, judgment. I was like, this guy seems so sure. I must be wrong. Yeah, no. And everyone is echoing the same thing. So I was serious. That’s why it took me so long, because it made me question my sanity. Like, why? How can I be the only one? And even I was invited to join Biden at the debate.
I was texting my best friend. I was like, is it me or can you not hear him? I was like, am I losing my mind or is the guy like, falling apart on stage? Yeah, it was such a horrible. Because in the cult, you have to understand, you’re. They’re feeding you daily, every day with a different reality. It takes so much to walk out of it. No, I can imagine that. And that’s why I didn’t even come out immediately. It took me weeks and months. I was inching my way out. It took me. First I was criticizing, and then they excommunicated me.
And the chair of the party attacked me on Christmas Eve when I was at the Nutcracker with my parents. He called me a narcissist because of the campaign expenditures. Because I raised questions. I don’t know why that makes me a narcissist. I don’t think that. It has nothing to do with me. It’s about campaign expenditures. When did you first speak up publicly about this? A year? Well, I went on Fox News because MSNBC wouldn’t have me. Blackballed me because they. I used to be on MSNBC consistently until I started raising questions about Biden’s age. And so after July 2024, other than one time at the DNC, I was never seen Again, on their airwaves.
CNN wouldn’t have me either. That’s why I was, I mean, I, I mean, Fox is a great network, but I was stuck on Fox because no one else would have me. I, I raised questions and I was really respectful about it. I wasn’t even attacking him. I was like, it’s time for him to step aside because what you’ve witnessed and what, because, you know, I had a front row seat to everything. And they just kept denying it and going along. Well, everybody did. Everybody in the party did like, oh, he’s fine. Yeah, he’s a genius. Behind closed doors.
But only behind closed doors. And then Jenna Mally Dylan lied to me on a zoom with a few other donors. This is the final straw for me. This is weeks, weeks, months before the election. She said, I’m, by the way, I’m a marathon runner. I’m relatively healthy. I do have some health issues. But she said, Biden’s healthier than all of you. We were on a call with 30 year olds, 40 year olds, and she had a straight face on. It wasn’t like she was joking around. She honestly wanted us to believe it. So they just, they fed us a different reality.
It’s so hard to come out of that. And the people who attack me now for not coming out years before, I’m telling you, man. Are they the donors that are or no, like people on the Internet? My donors are my donors. Completely under my. You got to bear in mind, my donors are my friends. Like, they’re my friends and family. They, they, they were my friends independent of politics. They were my friends first. So did they realize that the wool was pull. Pulled over your eyes also? All of us, they do. All of us, like the wool was, I mean, all of us were fooled and lied to.
What was your. I have a couple of people I want to ask you about. Let me go to this first. Nancy Pelosi. Have you had any, any kind of contact with her? Of course. Yeah. I’m actually close with our son, Paul Pelosi. He’s also, I’m a runner. He’s also a runner. He’s a runner. He’s a runner. He’s been applauding me, really, which I think if Paul’s watching this, I’m really surprised. Oh, thank you, Paul. But he’s, he’s like, I’m really proud of what you’re doing, which is so surprising to me because his mom is obviously a huge Democrat.
I have something to say about anti. I. And I heard what you said. About. Please do it, because I have it in for. I watched your. I watched what you said about the Baltimore stuff. That’s true. 100% true. Verifiable. Without it, I don’t see any things that I can’t back up. 100% true, if any. I believe you. I believe you. Also. Shipwreu really went down with her and Dianne Feinstein. What do you mean? Not only did she cover up Biden’s cognitive decline, she was covering up Diane’s cognitive decline. And people will know I’m telling the truth.
I’m gonna. Annette Blum, Richard Blum’s daughter. Richard Blum was married to Dianne Feinstein. Annette is now in a lawsuit against Dianne Feinstein’s daughter for the billion. Multi. Billion dollar estate. And Nancy was on the other side, basic. Basically exploiting Diane. This is what Annette told me. So believe it. I mean, it’s literally in the cornerstone. So I’m saying also on air, because Annette is a friend of mine, and I’m sticking up for her. And Nancy is not what she pretends to be. I mean, I. I mean, look at her stock. Stock. Why don’t you. Why do you.
Here’s what gets me. I’m a family person. My family comes first. And I look at it this way. You’re 84 years old. You’ve been in power forever, as far as I’m concerned. I’ll say it again. She robbed the American people with her. You know, her. Her trading. I’m lost at the word. Her insider trading, no doubt about it. She started with Visa. She did it 100%. You’ve made yourself a lot of money. Why don’t you just go home and spend time with your family? What do you need to hang on to power for so long? Why, I’m sure, like, seeing Hakeem Jeffries out there every day kills her.
She wants to be the. She wants to be there. But what do you need this for? This. Something inside of these people, they just can’t let it go. You just can’t let it go. And, you know, the thing is her constituents, she’s elected from the people of San Francisco. And that city is falling apart, and she doesn’t care. And people don’t see this, but you know what part of San Francisco isn’t falling apart? Her estate. Her neighborhood. Exactly. That one patch. Exactly. Everything else is crumbling. Exactly. But, you know, and this is what I’m telling people, she doesn’t care about her own town, her own city.
She’s a Washington, D.C. person. The rain doesn’t even hit a drop on her head. And she can’t let it go at her age, especially after what happened to her husband. Because of her. Yes, absolutely. Because of her. 100% because of her. And who knows the real story there? You know, we never get to. Now I’m like, with your gorgeous wife. I can even tell by the love between you two, if anything ever happened to you, she would be like putting her body on top of you. But not Nancy Paul Pelosi Sr. His, his skull was literally fractured because of his wife.
And she’s still out there. I would be at home. You know, just enjoy. She’s. They’re both in their 80s. Just enjoy life. Let it go. That’s what I’m saying. Become selfish and listen. I’ll say the same thing about Mitch McConnell. What are you doing there? Yeah, you’re not capable anymore. It’s a time has passed you by. You’ve made your. I think he’s worth $90 million. What more do you need in life? It’s actually worth more. More than that. Because of his wife. Okay, so what more do you need? Go home. Don’t you want to live out the last couple of years of your life with your family and enjoy your life? They can’t let go.
And this is both sides. I’m not, I just, you know, I came from a life where power was, we were powerful people. But you know when to let it go. You know, I, look, if I could sit back right now and do nothing and just enjoy my family forever, I probably wouldn’t do that because I feel like I can still make a difference. But also 70, you’re in your early 70s, a lot different from. Yeah, you know, but what I’m saying, there’s going to be a point in time where, hey, my wife and I want to travel.
We want to enjoy ourselves. I don’t want any responsibilities, you know, but they just can’t let it go. And I just cannot understand that. I mean, Biden is the classic example. And every time I would be at VIP events with him, he would have teleprompters at VIP events. And then I would hold his hand to steady him. Really? Oh, absolutely. These, this private events where everyone wanted him to succeed. Not high pressure events with like 10, 20 people and just waiting for him to finish the sentence, like cheering him on, you know, waiting with bated breath.
Well, you know, the most embarrassing thing after the, the debate for him, aside from the debate itself, when Joe grabbed his hand afterwards on national TV and says, you Answered every question. I was literally in the front row for that, Georgia. And then. So what you didn’t see was that people. I don’t know if you saw the crowd, but it was, like, empty. The room was, like, empty because people were leaving. And we had signs. It said, Georgia loves Joe to cheer him up. The President of the United States should be bucking up the American people.
It shouldn’t be the other way around. But it was like a senior home. We were trying to raise his spirits. And I was with him. He came. He spoke on stage, but he came down and spoke with us, spoke with me, me. And I was. Felt so bad for him. I didn’t even mention the debate. I just felt. It was like. It was sheer human pity. I just felt so bad for him because in that case, I couldn’t even be mad at him because my eyes. It was clear elder abuse. I knew who was responsible for that.
It was Jill. And do you think on her part she didn’t want to leave the White House? Absolutely did not. Because she was basically the president. You saw her on the COVID of Vogue just a few days afterwards. She loved it. Joe stayed in that position. I mean, not only because he had been running for it his entire life, but also his wife wanted the trappings of power, and also he wanted to keep his only surviving son out of prison. Those were the two reasons. Do you think if it were up to him, he would have gracefully walked away? If it wasn’t for those two factors, knowing him.
In other words, if he didn’t have to worry about his son and Jill wasn’t that strong an influence on him, do you think he would have bowed out gracefully? Do you think he had it in him? No. No. I’m going to be honest and say no. I think the only case in which he would have bowed out gracefully if. Is if Beau Biden was still alive. And Beau Biden could run, too. Yeah. And it’s. He really put all of his hopes in Beau. I actually, here’s losses. You know who threatened to sue me? I. I went on, Sean Ryan, and I listed the names out of the people who are running.
It was the first time that anyone had listed out the names. Ashley Biden put on her Instagram story that she’d never met me before and that she was going to sue me for. For undisclosed reasons. And how do you sue somebody for undisclosed. You have to stay. You have to state the reason you’re suing someone. Well, she just. She was obviously angry. She said we had never met. It is this. Let me show you. I’ve never met you. Right. Wow. She said, I’ve never. She said, I’ve never spoken to Lindy Lee. The whole family is liars.
Like, five photos with her. I have texts, I have emails. She lives down the street from me in Rittenhouse Squared Philadelphia. And I’m just thinking, I spoke with my lawyer, Tim Politori. He’s like, them suing us would be the best thing ever. Because it would. The case would be like, she’s suing me for saying that Biden covered up his cognitive decline. The discovery would be amazing. Oh, absolutely. Benefit to the American people. Exactly. He’s like, come at us, like, please sue us, please. Oh, that would have been great. But she took down the threat, like, 20 minutes later.
Yeah, exactly. Let me ask you, Adam Schiff. Oh, my gosh. Only. Only in California and, well, a few other states would he have been left, you know, the house and be elected senator. It was. Oh, I couldn’t believe, David. Against a guy like Steve Garvey, a beloved Dodger, a decent human being, family man, intelligent guy. Only in California could he have lost to this shit. I know. Of all the people that they’ve been pouring into the state for generations, right? Horrible, horrible person. Just continued to lie, you know, and there again, too, it’s not what he did to Trump.
It’s what he did to the American people. The whole. Russia, Russia, Russia. He lied all the way through it. They spent. Spent what, $40 million? They distracted the President of the United States, which means that he couldn’t do the proper job for the American people because of these distractions. And they just went on and on and on and on, and they put this guy back in office. You know, I. I don’t know how you feel about this. I’m normally, you know, give. Give people a break. You know, I want them to hold every one of these people accountable.
I don’t care that they go to prison, but the American people have to see, you cannot continue in this kind of behavior and not be held out accountable for it. I would love to see Biden, Joe Biden. He’s not gonna go to jail, but I want them to say he was guilty. First of all, he was guilty of having those classified documents. They always call Trump a criminal. Trump hasn’t been. You know, Trump’s not a criminal, but he. His own special counsel said he was guilty of having classified documents. He shouldn’t have had him. He was guilty, but he had dementia, and he couldn’t be, you know, at trial.
They couldn’t take him to trial. Right. How convenient. But he. He was guilty. That’s number one. Number two, they should show the American people this guy was treasonous. This is what happened during this administration. This is what happened when he was vice president. And they covered it all up. Adam Schiff, he lied. You can’t lie like this and get away with it. The American people. Exactly. Not even. Not. I mean, not to mention the Hunter Biden laptop, the laptop from hell. 51 people lied about Lincoln. Our Secretary of State, Jake Sullivan, our National Security advisor. They put their name on the letter saying that it was Russian disinformation when they knew it wasn’t.
They knew that it wasn’t. And even the Washington Post, which is not known for being conservative outlets, said it was completely verifiable, that the laptop was real. Why? Well, the. The FBI authenticated a year in advance of that in the court of law, because. Exactly. Well, that was the main evidence against Hunter to convict him. Exactly. And nobody’s talking about that. Like, do you see what these people did? I believe that that could have had a tremendous impact on the election, because, remember, it happened just before the election. And that’s why I think it’s very hard.
It’s so hard for someone with my background to admit this, but it’s true. The election was rigged in 2020. I don’t condone the violence on January 6, but the election was rigged because American people would have made a different decision had they known about the contents of the laptop. And they quashed the story. Facebook quashed the story. Twitter did. And I just. Now I know I. You know, I also have to assume responsibility and take accountability. I fell for it. I told. I was going to say, but you didn’t know it. You fell for it because you told me.
I believed it. I earnestly believed it. I thought, like, if NBC News told me something, it true, because it’s NBC News and cbs and like the Walter Cronkite establishment, how could they be lying to me? I. I understand that, but let me. Let me tell you this. I don’t know if you knew this, but Cash Patel said this. He said it in front of Congress. I believe that when he was assistant Director of the FBI, just before January 6th, Trump made a. A, what I call. Trump went to the FBI and said, we need the National Guard there that day.
Cash Patel, okay. He himself communicated that to Nancy Pelosi and to the mayor of D.C. and both of them rejected having the National Guard there. Really? They had minimal police force there. They didn’t have the normal contingency of police. I have to believe that this was a setup. I have to. Plus I spoke to the attorney for two of the people that got pardoned. I had two of the people that were pardoned on my podcast. And what they told me, I mean, these were innocent people. One was a veteran Marine. I just reached out to Brandon, I’m telling you, this was a setup.
They figured this would be the destruction of Trump, that he had an insurrection and this would have been it. This was their first major move after the impeachments and after everything else, this was what they were going to do to him. And they failed. They failed. Well, they didn’t fail because he didn’t become president again. But I’m saying. And obviously he’s made his comeback. But this is how devious they were. Nancy Pelosi refused and Cash Patel said it. We communicated that the President wanted the National Guard there. It was her decision. And it was also the decision of the, the mayor of D.C.
and they both said, no, thank you for letting me know that. And they didn’t even have the proper security. They bury it. Like, I didn’t read this in mainstream media. Like, this is the first time I’m hearing it, though. Absolutely. Also, one of the, one of the people that were pardoned told me that he was outside, he was fighting cancer at the time. He said I did nothing violent. He said I was standing there next to Nancy Pelosi’s son in law who was taking pictures and inviting people to go inside the. The Capitol. Yeah, he was walking them in and his and her daughter was in there taking photos of everybody.
And I said, would you swear to that? He said, 100%, I’ll take a lie detector test. I seen him. I was standing right next to him. He was making us go in and his wife was taking pictures of people going into the Capitol. I mean, this was a setup. And let’s switch gears for a minute because there’s so many people. I want to say, first of all, thank you. Yeah, that’s the truth. And you can verify with Patel very politely. Well, I felt something was off because I reached out to Brandon, who’s just pardoned. You know who I’m talking? Yeah, yeah, I know who it is.
Because I felt something wasn’t right here. And I’m not, I wasn’t getting the full story in the mainstream media. You weren’t getting the full story. And believe me, I spoke to the lawyer that represented them and represented a lot of the people on the pardon, the horror stories coming out, and they put innocent people in jail and they went after them with, with a venom. They didn’t care. They destroyed families. If you hear some of them, it brings tears to your eyes. And you know, the other thing is we hear a lot of people calling Trump a liar.
Trump this, Trump that. I know you were even against him at one point. I understand that, because you bought into this. But I sit down and I ask people, okay, tell me what he lied about that affected the American people. Let’s say you were right about that affair he had in 2006, before he was president, before he decided to run. Let’s say he wasn’t kind to a woman at that point. I’ll make it easy at that. Okay, I give you that, that. How did he impact you during his presidency? What did he do that? What did he lie about? What did he do that was so terrible? Explain it to me so I can understand.
Maybe I’ll agree with you. I can’t get an answer from anybody on that. Anybody, Lindsay, to say, you know, okay, Lindy, he was so bad because he did this, this, this and this. Nobody can answer. And if you can answer me, then, okay, I’ll agree with you. Hey, I tell people this, I have no relationship with Trump. He’s not supporting my family. I have nothing to do with him. I sat down with Lara Trump, wonderful woman. You know, when I talk to her, I talk to her more about family stuff than politics, you know, how did you feel the first time you met Donald Trump? You know, because I wanted to get away from the politics.
She’s a lovely woman, you know, And I looked at Donald Trump and I said, okay, I’m looking at his family. He’s got two good sons. His daughter’s great, great. You know, his daughter in law is great. I judge of people by their family. Look at Biden’s and then I look at Biden. Three drug addicts. Exactly. So here’s what I’m saying and I’m asking you now, when you’re on the, the other side, that side, when you look at Trump, what did he do that was so terrible to the American people? That’s my question. I want somebody to give me an answer.
That was, that was a Democrat at one time, what did he do? I think the main thing, and if, I mean, you were just unraveling it. For me, I think the main thing was really January 6th. Well, you know, Bill Maher, who I sat with, had the same issue. That was his big thing. With Donald Trump. And I even said to him, I said, bill, do you know what Cash Patel said? Do you know that he was preparing for this? He had a feeling maybe he was going to say some things. I asked the two people at the pardon, I said during that, did you have any idea at all, were you prepared at all that we were going to go into the Capitol? Capitol? It wasn’t even a thought.
They didn’t even think about it. Did Donald Trump, during that speech that he made, say anything that enticed you to go into the Capitol? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. And I’ve asked so many other people the same thing that were there. Not one of them said anything. And they would say, well, you know what? We felt we had to do it because we were supporting our guy. And he said, yeah, we should do that. None of them said that they were invited into the Capitol battle invited and they were incited. And, you know, even, and I don’t even blame the police because I think the police were told, you’re going to have a riot there that day.
Be ready. Now, when you have that mentality, then you’re preparing for that and you’re thinking, something looks like a. You think something’s going to happen. So I don’t blame the police that some of them got a little bit out of a hand. I understand. Oh, something that you don’t know. I never really felt really good about the Liberal police on January 6th. They would come to our events subsequently and hawk their books or promote whatever they have going on after January 6th. Oh, yeah, like at the DNC. Harry Dunn joined me at the debate, asked me for some money for some venture.
I don’t even remember. I just remember being okay. First, he was sweating like crazy. I remember being so cold and he was like covered in sweat. He asked me for it. Just rubbed me off the wrong. I just had. I just met him and he was asking me for money. So I think they were really trying to use their situation and what happened to them for their monetary gain so that that didn’t really strike me as something positive. Well, look, I’m going to tell you a point of view you may not agree with, but I will say this.
They were so concerned about them coming into their sacred place, the Capitol. All of these people that we think we have to, that they think we have to bow down to, they forgot that there are public servants, that we put them in office and we pay their salaries aside from what they steal. But you know, when you go back to, when you go back to the Old riots that we had when businesses were burned down and cops were killed and people were killed. My street was set on fire. You couldn’t live in Philadelphia. What did they call it? The Summer of Peace? They didn’t care that people were dying and business was shutting down.
But we had to be so worried about them, you know, in the Capitol, you know what DEI is covered for for blm. Yeah. Well, look what that happened. Yeah, look at that. Exactly. You’re totally right. And that’s not talked enough about because there was a five alarm fire. I actually tweeted about it. My entire street is actually the most. I moved away from that building. Part of the reason why I moved is because of what happened. But they set the wealthiest part of Philadelphia on fire out of spite because it’s the widest part of Philadelphia. They set my street on fire for entire week.
My. My street smelled like burned rubber. I don’t even know where the rubber is coming from. And I couldn’t open my windows because the smell was so intoxicating, it would make you sick. They did that to my home and they lied and covered up about that. This was. That was nothing. It was nothing. Yeah, because these people are disadvantaged. They had every right to smash the windows of Tiffany’s or the Apple Store. Those were the stores on my street. Yeah. They were okay with that. Even I think AOC or Kamala Harris, I can’t remember. Kamala Harris was the one who started the fund.
And the fund was still up. Yeah. I was so angry about that. You’re totally right. And those riots across the country were far more damaging. And they covered it up. They tried to cover it up. Not only did they cover it up, they made it seem like something righteous. It was justified. Exactly. Yeah. But God forbid you go on their hollow ground and, you know, we’re. It was an insurrection. Nonsense, Lindy. They lie all the time. You know, I cannot trust the war, and I don’t want to feel that way. Yeah. But I can’t trust them.
The thing is, I was there on the ground when they were stealing all that merchandise and just breaking the windows. And they did it by going in as a gang so the police couldn’t just. It’s harder to catch like 10 people versus one. So they would break in the window, and I was just standing there watching in disbelief. Life. They would just grab like all the clothing and just run out. How is that. What does that have to do with racial justice? And then I would. I would ask, like, what does this have to do with anything? And they’re like, oh, that’s reparations to make up for whatever slavery, like, 300 years ago.
And I would say to them, well, why don’t you give them some of your money if you’re so concerned about them? You know, you support them, do whatever you want. And they’re trying to do it in the state of California and make you give reparations. Exactly, exactly. I don’t think that’ll pass. Not after this last election. You know, if you look at the map in California, it was only the coastal states. And I think that might even switch now after what happened with these fires. You know, the only coastal, I mean, coastal cities, rather, were the only ones that went blue.
They went blue, but they shifted red. Yes. The entire country shifted red. Shifted red. Yeah, exactly. We’re sick and tired of this nonsense, but we need to go back to that question. Make believe you’re still in the Democratic Party, doing your thing. Okay, Donald Trump is running. Can you tell me what he did that was so horrible to the American people? How he lied. They say he lies all the time. Michael. I’m a conservative, so I’m actually good with his policies. I was just upset about January 6th, so. So if you can solve that issue. And you’re solving that already.
If you can solve it. I mean, I’m already with you guys already, like. But I’m just saying that was my main sticking point, because from my point of view, and I’m just saying, this is how I was thinking as an immigrant. I felt so grateful to be American. Everyone I love is American. I am so blessed to be here. My family was persecuted and murdered in China. So for me, in my mind, the Capitol represented so much. I get it. And that’s why it felt like a violation. But you were already explaining. And that’s why I reached out to Brandon, too, because I did some research on my own, and something didn’t feel right.
Right. If. If that can be solved, I’m. I’m. I’m good. I want to say this to be perfectly fair. After the election, I said to myself, I said, okay, Donald Trump, people are just tired of his tweets, tired of the fighting back and forth. You know, I think. I believe that if he would have some point a year before the campaign, I mean, a year before the election, if he would have said to the American people, you know what? I’m not fighting with Nancy Pelosi anymore. I’m not doing any more of these tweets. I’m only concerned about the American people.
And stop fighting back. And he would have changed his tone a little bit, similar to the tone that he has now. I think the election might have been a different outcome, but people were. This is what I said to myself. I said it to my wife. People are so tired. Maybe Biden offers them some peace. Cuz this is what he’s been saying. He’s going to bring back normalcy. Okay, I get. Get it. But then I started to, you know, people have. When I started to see the things that were coming out about the election and about the.
The mail in ballots, and I’m saying Covid and him in his basement, something’s going on here. This isn’t right. And that’s when I started to think. But initially I said, okay, he lost. He should have done this. He should have toned it down. He should have stopped the fighting. And these stupid tweets that he did and the name calling, it just grinded on people. That’s why he lost. But then I started to change my opinion when I really looked into it, and I said, no, they’re stealing this election. All these mail in ballots. And how do you justify, in the state of California that you can have your ballots counted seven days later without even a postmark on it? Do you know that you don’t even need a postmark on it? I live in Philadelphia and I’ve seen firsthand how easy it is to steal stuff.
It’s easy. So easy. It’s so easy. Then you have. You see people stuffing ballots. They had no control over this. They had none. Also, I have. This is a minor quibble, but my span. My ballot is now completely Spanish. I never asked for that. I’m American. I speak English. I want my ballot to be in English. I actually filed a complaint with the city of Philadelphia. I said, I want an English ballot. Actually, I know them. I went straight to the commissioner. I was like, please, I don’t want this again. If this is going to be in Spanish, I don’t blame you.
You know, I was, I was getting. I wasn’t even allowed to vote as a convicted felon. And they. I didn’t even register and they were giving me ballots. Really? Yeah. And I voted. I said, okay, if you’re going to give it to me, I’m going to vote. I never registered. No, I never registered. Yeah, I never did because I was a felon. I knew I had lost my right at that point. I got it back now, but they were giving me. Sending me ballots. Ballots. It’s crazy. It’s crazy. But you See, that’s. That’s the thing, Lindy.
Nobody can tell me Trump’s a liar. Trump’s just so. Everything they said, I said. Give me an example. Tell me how he lied to the detriment of the American people. Tell me that. I want to know. I’ll research it, and if you’re right, I’ll agree with you. Nobody’s been able to say it to me. Nobody even number now. Well, Trump’s a liar. Okay, Tell me where he lied. Explain it to me. That hurt the American people. Don’t tell me what he did 20 years ago. I want to hear that. Nobody can tell me anything. Didn’t AOC call him a serial? Yeah, well, everybody.
He was called a serial. I think you might have said that at one time. Yeah. You bought into that also because of the Eugene Carol thing. Yeah. And look, that’s horrible what he did at. At that point. I mean, if he. But look, I know that it’s locker room stuff, regardless. It’s not good. But you know what? I’m also one of those rare women. I’m not a supporter of MeToo. I think me too, has gone off the rails. It’s just absolutely obscene that one woman’s word can destroy a man. It’s unacceptable. And I’m gonna say right here, there’s a man who sexually assaulted me.
I will never say anything. I’m gonna take it to my. Oh, I did tell my mom, but, like, it’s just not. He didn’t rape me. Otherwise I would have gone to the police. But I’m not going to let a single. A few minutes destroy this man’s life. In fact, I’ve been working with him for the past 17 years because I’m a grown adult. I. I’m a professional. I get shit done and you just move on. Whereas these women, they want their 15 minutes of fame and it could be nothing. Could have been a kiss or something or, I don’t know, like an unwanted hug.
That is just not enough. It. A man doesn’t deserve that. What about some grace? And are you really going to criminalize flirting, like, and calling people? You can call people sweetheart. You can hug people. It shouldn’t be a crime. But you’ve seen so many men go down because of just what used to be courtship. Right. And I’m just not gonna. I’m not gonna condone any of that. It’s just wrong. Not only that, the crusade against white men. I know, like, white men are now one of the most, you know, punished demographics. I know. It’s It’s. It’s.
I. I don’t. This. I don’t understand this whole mentality anymore. I don’t get it. To me, it’s so off the charts, you know, I. Being white is like a crime now. It’s a crime. And Biden was white, but I guess he got a pass because he was against white men. Well, he was. For the Chinese and everybody. I’m gonna get in so much trouble. No, but see, and I want to point this out, because if Trump is guilty of something or he did something like. My big beef with Trump was that he allowed the debt to grow in his first term, and he shouldn’t have.
Well, that wasn’t his fault. I had to defend him. The code he was trying to get us, trying to save our economy from. All right, well, I appreciate that, but I said, you’re fighting against the debt back then, but you allowed it to grow. That was my one beef I had. He’s trying to make amends now with Doge. Yes, yes, yes. And he’s doing the right thing. He absolutely is doing the right thing. But if somebody can point it out, okay, Trump lied to the American people, or Trump did this to the detriment of the American people.
It’s just like now AOC and Bernie Sanders is running around the country, and he’s saying this, and there’s nothing whatsoever to support it. What he’s saying is these tax cuts and Doge, it’s all because he wants to benefit his billionaire friends. Well, show me how he’s done that. Give me some evidence of that. Show me he’s earning this money. Show me who earned that money the last time when he gave us all a tax break and put some money back in our pockets. Show me who these people are that benefited. And you know, they can’t answer.
And you know what they failed to mention? More billionaires supported Kamala Harris than supported Trump. Exactly. And Bernie Sanders. Yeah, that Bernie Sanders is the one who owns three homes and is a multimillionaire. Who. That’s the socialist. Yeah. War against him. Five years ago, AOC called me out on. This is before. I wasn’t used to being canceled. Now I’m, like, attacked on a monthly basis. But, like, back in the day. No, I’ve been canceled, like, 17 times at this point. I’m uncancelable. But AOC was the first person to cancel me. I remember AOC because I hinted that I would rather vote for Trump than Sanders.
She was like, oh, my God, what a traitor. So I remember that she made me trend on Twitter. Can you imagine her talking about economics? She was a bartender before. It’s the same thing I said about Kamala Harris. When Kamala Harris during the campaign came out with her plan, her plan to save the economy, I said, based upon what knowledge or experience? I’m a business guy. Based upon what knowledge or experience that you have to run the biggest economy in the world and tell us how to improve it. How? I’ve spent a lot of time with her and I really wanted to give her the benefits of the doubt.
I. I thought of it this way. If you made it to senator California in the vice presidency, you have to be smart, right? Like that’s just my thought process. Like how could you possibly make it that far without having the smarts? And then I realized this woman just happened to be in the right place at the right time. Decade after decade being in the right relationship with people. Exactly. That’s. That’s it right there. Such and were sexist and racist. Were pointing out that maybe a 29 year old dating a 6 year old is a little bit weird.
Who’s married, who was married at the time too, which made it even more weird. So we’re not allowed to mention that. But if it hadn’t been for Willie Brown, she never would have gotten her nowhere. And everybody in California knows that. Well, we’re not allowed to talk. You’re not allowed. Well, you weren’t allowed to talk about it. But everybody. Yeah, everybody knew it to mention it. Yeah, we knew it for a while. And you know what? The blacks in this state hated her. Hated her. They thought she was a sellout at phony. They didn’t even know if she was black, but they hated her.
Yeah, lock a brother up, Kamala, because we have black friends. They all, they all hated her. You know, she. She absolutely. Her relationships got her a job. She was never qualified. I really, you know, I always go into every relationship with an open heart kind of. And I really wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt. And that’s why it took me so long. It was hard because I had to basically discard my entire worldview. You have to remember I grew up in Pennsylvania and Philadelphia, an extremely liberal city. I went to Princeton, an extremely liberal university.
I lived in New York. I worked at Morgan Stanley. New York City, extremely liberal city. It was my entire world. So I. Stepping away from that was. It was traumatic. It was really hard. But now I realize. But I’m also not going to deny that she was a decent person to me. But she was not qualified to be president. Not at all. Not at all. No. She put a sentence together. I know, I just, it just, her salads were just. She’s still out. She’s still out there doing it. Like even, even this morning. Month. Did you see the smell, Neil? Did you see her? She, she just came out with a new word salad about the world.
Wildfires and the smell. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I don’t understand, like, you and I are having a pretty intelligible conversation right now using real words and people can understand us. Why can’t she also come up with coherent sentences? Because she’s not smart, she’s not bright. It. And then I remember, yes, the average IQ is around 100 and she’s not bright. I mean, it’s, we’re being kind to her by saying that, and we don’t have to be because she was ready to pull a scam on the entire world, basically the entire country, by believing, making us believe she was qualified to be president when she knew that other people were going to have influence on her.
I think if she would have become president, it would have been a battle because she, I don’t know how much she was going to take, allow people to control her. Her. And I would sit back and think of that and say, wow, if this woman does come in, it would have been a Tony west presidency. Her brother in law. Yeah, maybe Obama for sure. I mean, not even a question. I mean it. And, and I, we used to sit back, I said, it can’t be possible. I grew up with intelligent people in office. And how is this woman running for president? My country is not going to let me down.
There’s no way they’re going to vote. Yeah, she, she had a very positive outlook. And I was like, I don’t know, vote for her. Well, thank God. Just couldn’t vote for her. But I didn’t vote for Trump either. I didn’t vote for the president. Okay. I voted for my senator, who’s a dear friend, but he lost. But I just couldn’t bring myself to vote for her. And they asked me to post that I voted for her. So I did because I was influencer for the campaign. It was kind of my job. I wasn’t, I want to be very clear, and I’ve said this before, and I’ll say it again, I’m independent financially.
I wasn’t paid for any of this. I wasn’t paid for the fundraising. I wasn’t paid for influencing. I wasn’t paid. It was just what I did. It was the world that I grew up in. Yeah. And. But I couldn’t in my good conscience vote for that. I just couldn’t vote for that. I couldn’t vote to perpetuate that. Like I saw. I, I voted for Biden in 2020. Okay. And I realized what that got us. And again. But you know what? I understand that because Biden, Biden pulled a scam on everybody. I mean, we have to say that he ran as a moderate and I believe, yeah, he pulled a scam on everybody.
And the party pulled a scam with having him up front there. We get that. And like I said, I even understood, reluctantly understood, okay. People are tired of Trump. It’s too much. Too much. The combativeness. And I can relate to Trump. I’m a New Yorker too. We tend to fight back. And that was his personality, was his nature. But it got it grounded on people. People. And, you know, but they didn’t understand that he was always on the defense. It wasn’t that he was the on the offense. He wanted to work with Pelosi, but he was always on the defense because he got attacked every single day.
So he kept fighting back and fighting back. But people then start to say, enough. We had enough. So I kind of got it when, when Biden was in until I started investigating. And you know what? This, this was a, this was a phony election. They stuffed the ballots. They did do this. And I started hearing things and I have some friends in those places. And I said, Covid. They were able to pull this scam off because of COVID And then when you look at everything else they did, you know, closing the schools down. And you know, you know what, Lindy? How horrible is this? Millions of people died and they covered up this whole thing from Wuhan, you know, Fousey, Fousey belongs in jail.
He’s a horrible person. You know, I’m of Chinese descent and so. But I’m just going to say it. Go ahead. You know, China did this to us. And the people who covered it up, who said we were crazy for saying it was a laply week, they should be held accountable. 100. My dad. And again, I was so deep in the woke mind virus, my dad was telling me in 2020 that it was a lab leak. My dad was a medical doctor. And I was like, you’re crazy. So he knew your dad? My dad knew. But I bought into again, NBC and npr, like all these things, I held them as my gold standard.
And I was like, no way. Because I heard on the news, like, blah, blah, blah, blah. My dad’s like, my. My dad always knows. But we don’t know. We don’t know this. We don’t know if it was an intentional. Exactly. But we do know it was a laugh. It was a leak. But we don’t know if it was an intentionally. Big difference. Big difference. But the fact that Fauci lied about this is also something to be angry about. They should. Yes. 100% negligence. Yes, but there’s a difference between negligence and intentional. Yeah, because so many people died, and the whole world was even including, I mean, Chinese people.
Yeah, but Fauci wide about it. It. And our administration covered it up. You know, he made us feel crazy for questioning him. How do we, you know, good guy. Because he was following the science. Well, no, he wasn’t. And how do you. Yeah, and then you pardon somebody like this. That’s what I’m saying is, Lindy, I’m not person to judge. Their behavior was very bad. Look, I’m a Christian. You know what I pray for? I pray for all of these people that repent and accept our Lord and straighten their eternity out. But that doesn’t mean you’re not held accountable for your behavior here on Earth.
We’re all held accountable. I went to jail for 10 years for things that I did wrong. I get it. I deserved it. But you got to be held accountable because this kind of behavior cannot continue because you’re impacting millions of people. How many people died during COVID How many relatives were not able to be with their loved ones when they died because of this phony 26ft and you can’t be around. It was all nonsense. It was an absolute lie. Even as a Democrat, I fought against that. I. I just. They attacked me. But you know what? You can’t even be put to blame because we believed it.
But even then, I. Even as I’m telling you, even as a Democrat, I chafed against the restrictions. Like, I. That was actually one of the things people think that I suddenly Switched. Switched. No, it was years and years. Like little things, like little aggravations that would accumulate over the years that covet stuff in the DEI stuff and the trans stuff and the border stuff, which is one thing after another. Yes, and I understand that. But even with COVID okay, we kind of. We were believing it, Tam, you and I. Hey, look, this is what they’re telling us.
Even Trump with the vaccine. He was getting enough. Following me, videotaping me for not wearing a mask and just stalking me. I. I Followed two police reports. It was just. Oh, believe me, I was in a grocery store one day picking out some seafood or something, and some guy was yelling at me because I got within four feet of him, some holder guy. And I said, relax, if you’re that worried, you should stay home. We both had a mask on, you know, but I mean, it got that intense. It got that intense. But we bought into what we were being told.
Cold. But, you know, then I look back and I say, wow, they really do have blood on their hands. These are bad people. And not only that, the invisible pain that they caused us. Yes. Mental wreckage. And we’re still recovering from it. I think I’m still in the. You know, a lot of people are still recovering from the aftermath of COVID Like, it’s just seriously psychic trauma. The relationships they damaged. Absolutely. We’re never going to get the time back. Never going to get the time back. Look what happened to our students, our kids in school. The time that they lost, they can’t make up for it.
It’s years later yet, and they’re in their most formative age. They should be outside. They should be, you know, socializing. Yeah. I think that the impact of COVID I mean, people don’t want to go to work still. They’re so used to being in their home. Yeah. All this stuff, I mean, it caused so much damage. And anybody that were responsible for pulling the wool over eyes when they knew different, they should be held accountable. And, you know, and they say Trump, you know, it’s revenge. It’s not revenge. It’s accountability. There’s a difference. Because these people are in a position to do something like this again, and we have to stop it.
Yeah, exactly. And it’s good that he pulled Fauci’s Secret Service. Yes. Where does he need it? And it wasn’t even like it was like a luxury vehicle. Did you see he had, like a limo and everything. What does he need for. He made so much money off of us. He can pay for his own security. Absolutely. And even Biden now, I think Hunter Biden is out in South Carolina. He’s in South Africa on our dime. Why? He’s. He told the judge that he’s broke. He’s basically dodging the law, the millions that he took. How’s he broke? And you know what else Biden refused to recognize his grant granddaughter from? Right.
That stripper. Right. And he talks about being a family guy. He’s the farthest thing from as a father and a husband. He’s the furthest Thing from that. This guy, he’s. He’s such a phony. I hate to say it. You know, I have no. I’m sorry. And people may look at me differently. I have no empathy for him because in my mind, treasonous blood on his hands cover up all to the detriment of millions of people. Did he lie to. Wow. This is the first time I’m asking, like, I guess he’s a really good actor because I fell for all of that.
Well, no, if he was kind to you, I get it. You know, I give him credit for being kind to a person, but most importantly, he was kind to my father. Okay? So I. But, wow, did I really fall for all that? It’s, like, painful for me to even, like, contemplate. Well, you know what I have to say, Lindy, and I don’t mean this in a yes, because this is a bad guy. You know, I look at things maybe a little bit more cynically at times because of my background, but I really observed him. He’s not a good person.
Yeah. I also, you know, I read the book what it Takes by Richard Ben Cramer, which is about the 1988 presidency, how Biden cheated. The plagiari. The plagiarism. Plagiarism. Yeah. And I just. Just in my mind, I was explaining it because the two different versions of Biden were hard to reconcile. He was a racist at one time. I mean, the guy is just. He’s all over the place. Whatever got him to the next position, you know, just. He li. The guy would make up stories. He’s just. Just a liar. There’s something wrong with him. Realize that he used his two sons when his wife was kill.
Killed in that crash. Yes. He uses two sons as a prop in the campaign photo. That’s right. What I mean, yeah. You would never do that. Never. Use basically as an advertising gimmick. Let me. Let me ask you this. Let’s switch to. What do you have planned for yourself now as we wrap this thing up? Where you go from here? Well, firstly, I haven’t slept yet for a few days. I’m going to go home and sleep after this. I’m going to go fly home to Pennsylvania to sleep politically. Are you going to stay in the game? Yeah, absolutely.
I. A book coming out which will rock the political world. It will rock the political world. I can’t wait. Like absolute bombshells. I have no one to protect anymore. I’ve been protecting them for years in a way that they treated me. They treated me like shit. I was protecting Them just out of like human decency. Would you ever think of running for office yourself? I know you did it one time. This woman ever run for Congress? Congress? I was actually telling someone I love, the only time I would ever run is if like President Trump or President Vance says, I endorse you for senator.
Pennsylvania. I’m never going to do it on my own ever again because the psychological pain is so deep. It’s so deep. And I’ve been through, so, yeah, I don’t, I’ve been through a lot, like, even as a kid. But I’m actually after this, I’m meeting with someone about, about doing a docu series which will also be interesting. And then, well, here’s what you have to decide because your experience and you’re obviously very intelligent. Are you better serving people by being in office or having a voice about those going into office and about policy? I wonder though, what is the price of peace? You know, and as I said earlier, we are on borrowed time time.
You know, it’s just very hard. I’m still recovering from everything, you know, I, sometimes in the middle of the night I check, is someone attacking me right now? Are they going to start another smear campaign? It’s just so hard. I’m still my brain accustomed. I’m like in a war zone. Do you understand? I, I think I need to get on, on even footing first. Well, you know, Lindy, I think the more the American people, we have to pray that Trump continues to have success and that the American people are benefiting from that. And I don’t want to get into all his policies yet.
That’s too much politics at the point. But I think as that progresses, I think you’ll be in a lot better position because those that might be attacking you, they’re going to fall by the wayside. I’m also going to do whatever I can to help the GOP win the midterms. Absolutely. I have the capacity to raise millions of dollars easily. I will do that for sure. Well, I, I will tell you this, to me, that’s paramount. Any way that I can help, and I live in the swing state of Pennsylvania, any way I can help you, you know, if there’s any help.
You, you have been a shining light in this, you know, in this world. Thank you so much. Everywhere I go, I hear your name from like, unexpected corners, even from people on the necked, on pbd, like everywhere people from. I just got a message about you from someone in New Zealand. I kid you not. Let me pull up the Message right now. Someone from a name I can’t even pronounce in New Zealand. That’s the power of social media. Who is it watching? Michael fans is a fan of you viewers. You won’t even know watching your critique of the jfk.
This guy lives in the Down Under. Well, maybe I’ll see him in the next couple weeks. Your legacy and your voice has touched so many corners of the world that you wouldn’t even know your career, not even the career trajectory, because I feel like that puts way too much of an inhuman. Your life has been such an amazing testimony. Thank you. I appreciate that. And I watched your. I think. Well, you spoke at a church a few days ago. Yeah, well, actually yesterday. Oh, I haven’t slept. No. And. Well, I don’t know if that was posted yet, but yeah, I speak at a lot of churches, so stay posted afterwards sometimes.
So, yeah, I just. You really are making a tremendous impact wherever you go. Well, you know what? A number of people, they once wanted me to run for the mayor of Las Vegas. I was going to ask, who is your member of Congress right now and why aren’t you running against. Because first of all, my wife would probably divorce me if I ever did. Who is her member of Congress here? Oh, my God. You don’t want it. What’s her name? I can’t even. I can’t even. I dislike her so much, I can’t even mention her name.
The. The congresswoman. Yeah, the one that’s. That I’m going to do the Mama Luke of the week about. Oh, it’s. It’s. No, what’s her name? Name. You know her for sure. But I, I can’t even. What ethnicity is she? Oh, my gosh. What? What? She’s black? Is she Sydney something? Come on, babe. Maxine Waters. Maxine Waters. If you run against her, you’re gonna win. I keep you not. Gosh, I thought you’re talking about somebody else here. Maxine Waters is such a joke. Yes. She stands for nothing. She’s such a joke. Yeah. She stands for nothing except racism.
Yeah, Guy, that’s it. Anti white racism. That’s it. She’s the one that said against her you will win. But I. But I will be divorced, so I’ll lose that. I’ll lose my wife of 40 years coming up. Also. Your wife is timeless. Oh, my God. I just. Looking at her. You’re so beautiful. All right, thank you. Wow. Amazing. But we would not be married again. She told me. I’m not. Oh, my gosh. I mean, we’ve already had a life that’s been a roller coaster. It’s like, now we’re just getting to, like, some pieces. What is the price of peace? But.
But I think my. My job is to try to get the right people into office and the wrong people out of office. That’s what I think, because I have a voice now, and I think that’s where I could do the best job, really, because I. I really. I know people don’t, but I really have a heart for this country because you know what? When I was doing the wrong thing on the street, they did the right thing to come at me. I have no complaints. I have no complaints whatsoever. I understand that. And I’m a reasonable guy.
You know, I’ll say this to you, Lindy. When the FBI was. I had. I don’t know if you know this, but I was arrested 18 times. Back then. I had seven indictments. Two federal racketeering cases, one state, one brought on by Rudy Giuliani, who’s now my friend. Yeah, I saw that. They want to put me away for 100 years. We’re friends. I went to trial five times. I defended my father in numerous cases. By the way, it says how much of a man you are that he is now your friend. Like, how many men are able to transcend that and put that in the past? Well, yeah, that speaks volumes about you.
I just had to say that. I appreciate that, but my point is that. What was I going to say? What was my point? Yeah, but. But we used to tell the FBI. I told the FBI, Listen, I understand you have a job to do if you get me the right way and don’t frame me, because my reasoning is, you’re the federal government. You have all the tools on your side. You’re not allowed to break the law, to go after lawbreakers. You have to abide by the rules. And if you do that and you get me, I have no complaint.
None whatsoever. Just don’t harass my family and frame us. And I felt that way my whole time. When I went to jail, I was justified. I broke the law, and they got me. It’s okay. So I didn’t hate my country. Never. I love my country, and I love my kids and my grandkids. And I was really concerned. I didn’t sleep at night over Kamala Harris becoming president. I really didn’t. It bothered me that much. You tell you she had to shut off the television. Sometimes I would get so angry because I would say, kami, they’re lying.
I hope people are not buying into this. They are lying. And it’s. So it’s one thing to lie. Frivolous doesn’t mean. But when you’re lying and you’re hurting people to the way. To the, to the extent that you’ve hurt people through Covid and through all of this stuff, it’s horrible. And I, I couldn’t. I really bothered me. And so it’s continuing to bother me. So I. I think my voice is. Is better than me running for office because I don’t have any constrictions now. I can say what I want and. And I’ll say what I want.
Obviously meant to do this. How many. How many people can have 2 million followers in such a short amount of time? You are like, something happened. You obviously God has destined you to do this. I mean, it’s undeniable. Well, we’ll see what happens. You see how hard it is. Michelle Obama. What? 14,000 followers. I know, but what you did, what you did is absolutely brave. And I, and I. My wife was the first one. She said, we have to get Lindy because she said, this is so commendable what that woman is doing. And she felt fused.
Watched a lot of your interviews and she said to do something like that, you know, knowing how bad these people could be and how mean they could be and how treacherous they can be, that was brave. Brave, really. It’s still brave. And I. I really commend you for that. And I mean it. Thank you for coming from you. It means the world. No, I. I mean it. And listen, we all could change our opinions. You know, when you see something going wrong, you buy into something. Wait a second. I was misled or I didn’t get it or I didn’t understand it.
It’s not a flip flop. I don’t. Kamala Harris flip flopped because she wanted to become president. So she was changing some of the views she knew was unpopular. She still held those views. She was just being, you know, disingenuous. But it’s one thing. You stood up for what you said and you made your switch and that’s it. And you’re not running for office at this point. Nobody’s paying you. You just did what you did for the right reason. Yes, I’m. I’m paying to be here. So I mean, I’m like, you’re not paying me for this. Well, I would love to go on that.
What was his name? Roman. What’s his name? Martin. You would? I would love to go on his show and say, you’re Saying a lot of things. Show me. I would never let you. Because you put the lie to everybody. It’s another anti white racism guy. They won’t call me on a show like that because I want to go on a show like that and just. Oh, the view. I would say just put me on a view, unedited. Attack me in every way you want. Let me. Let me come back. I can’t even believe. You know. And I’ll tell you what happened to me.
This is funny. Andrew Tate. We went to Romania. I took a photo. Yeah, I took a photo with Andrew Tate. I had a whole tour going on in the United Kingdom. My wife. We took a photo. My wife, my daughter, Tate. Do you know that they tried to throw me out of the country because of a photo I had? Romania? Yeah. No, no, United Kingdom. Are you serious? Yeah. They called me a misogynist. When did this happen? 2023, when I had a tour there. The UK? Yeah, the UK. I had 13 dates, appearances, right. They went to every.
Some woman in Parliament said, I’m a misogynist. They went to all of my venues that were on for seven, eight months in advance, tickets sold and everything, and said, if you host this guy, we’re going to pull your business license. They tried to have me deported from the country. I fought back. Because of a photo? Because of a photo. They went so far as to say that I was gonna have Andrew, and there was no truth to. I’ve been speaking for 30 years. I don’t speak with anybody. I speak myself. They said that I was gonna have Andrew Tate on a video behind me on the stage.
It was a total lie. But that’s. What did they do again, 13 venues they went to, and some of them canceled out of fear. We had to get within 24, 48 hours. We had to switch the venues so that the people that bought tickets can go to another venue. My hosts went crazy. This is how bad these people could be. They absolutely lied. I said, a misogynist. I have daughters, I have granddaughters. I have a wife. Very independent. For 40 years. I’m anything but a misogynist. That’s the last thing you should call me. But this is the extent that they will go to.
You’re not, obviously. But second of all, it’s not against the law to be a misogynist. Canceling, it’s almost worse than being illegal in some people’s eyes. But it was so untrue. So that my. My point is, this is. This is the extent of. So for you to stand up okay. So I just. I can’t believe they did that to you. I’m so sorry. Well, it’s. So we worked it out. Look, but for. For you to stand up knowing that you were going to be attacked the way you. Maybe you didn’t realize it, but I did because I tried to do that with the Bernie Bros five years ago.
I knew the price to pay. And that’s actually why it took me so long, because I knew what was coming. But I had to be done because I hadn’t said anything. No one would have known about the Oprah stuff and the Beyonce stuff. That’s right. They would have covered it up. And what you’ve. It’s so great because things that I’ve been saying, you just verified to, you know, verify it so I can come out even stronger now, now and say these things because I. I knew everything that you were saying was true. It was so obvious.
So obvious. So just know that you have a lot of support. And they’ve had four months and more to contradict me and notice. Nobody has. They can’t. Nobody has. They can’t. That’s what I said today. One guy said, the guys are making noise. He’s nobody. Yeah. And I’m listening. Talking about. No one has said any. No. So. So anything else you want to say before we leave? Other than thank you to you and your amazing wife? Well, it’s such an honor to be here and it’s an honor to have you here. Nothing but time but, like, warmth and grace.
This is. Thank you. Appreciate it. And I hope we get to do some things in the future to. For the benefit of this country. Whatever I can to help you. I will. Okay. Same here. Nestled in my heart. Thank you so much. Got it. Thank you. All right, well, there you have it. Make your own judgment. I couldn’t find anything that she said that was not truthful or not credible. She spoke from her heart. Very nice woman. Very, very nice woman. Courageous woman. I’ll keep saying that because you know what? Who knows with these lunatics on the left what they may try to do to her or her family.
She kept saying she lives high up in her building. Thank God for that. But I still wouldn’t trust them. These people are loony. I watch them on television. I said, what kind of people are these? The new mafia. Trust me, the new mafia. Anyway, you know what? If you find something that’s not credible, let me know. Everything that she said is spot on. She raised millions of dollars. She went to her friends, her relatives. She went all out for these people. And they’ve turned on her because she questioned them and she’s right in questioning them. They’ve lied to us consistently for four years, and they’re continuing to lie right now.
They’re doubling down. They won’t give it up. Their hatred for Trump and their desire to maintain power and control. Remember that. That’s the bottom line here, maintaining power and control. It’s why they flooded the border with illegal migrants and tried to get them to vote because they knew they would vote Democrat. There was no other reason for that. These people are not humanitarian. They wouldn’t even stand. Remember that night? They wouldn’t stand for. For the parents of women that were murdered by illegal migrants. They wouldn’t even stand up for a young kid that beat cancer that was being honored that night.
That’s how inhumane they are. Don’t let them kid you. And I’ve said this on many of my lives, people, and I’m saying again, you cannot put your trust in them when they lie to you once, twice, three times, ten times every single day. You can never trust these people again. Like Gavin News. Listen, don’t trust him. He just wants to be president. He’ll sell his mother to be president. Trust me. This guy is making the reversal, trying to go, you know, to the center because he wants to run for president and he knows there’s nobody out there, so he thinks he’s got a shot.
The Democrats don’t have anybody. So he says, you know what? I got slick hair, I’m good looking, I wear a suit and I can speak. So he’s trying to change his spots, but he’s still the same leopard. And he’s trying to pull over the wool over your eyes. Just look at his record. Record. It’s horrible here in California. He destroyed the politics and the economics in this state. He’s horrible. Don’t let him pull the wool over your eyes. And I live here in California, so maybe he’ll come after me. I invite him. Let’s go. Okay. Because I tell the truth.
This woman, again, I couldn’t find anything not credible. They should be ashamed of themselves the way they treated this woman. They should apologize to her for having her go to her relatives and friends. Friends. And lying to her. But they don’t care. They double down. Double down. So listen, in my book, she’s a one courageous woman. I appreciate her coming on here. And I said this earlier in my opening. Roland Martin, you want to debate me? Because I listened to what you said about her. Absolutely False. She didn’t provide any facts. You want to sit down, debate me.
Whether it be you or anybody on the left, I welcome you. Let’s sit down and have an intelligent debate. Debate. And let’s talk facts. Let’s review the whole four years that Joe Biden was in office. Let’s review. Review the whole campaign of Kamala Harris. Let’s talk about Tim Waltz. Let’s talk about Kamala, how she got in power, why she was put there. She was never nominated by the people. Let’s talk about everything. The woman lost for very simple reasons. She was incompetent, period. Incompetent. She should have never been in that position. She was a DEI hire.
We know that. I say it like it is. We know why Biden put her in as vice president. You mean to tell me there weren’t more people qualified, better qualified than Kamala Harris? Anytime anybody on the left would want to debate me, invite me on your platform or I’ll invite you on mine. And let’s go for it. No problem. I’m ready. Because I speak facts and I speak the truth. That’s it. And you want to talk about Trump, I’ll talk about it too. Do. Okay. I have things that I like about him very much and about his policies and some things I don’t like.
I’m ready to talk about it. Honesty. You know what? I respect Bill Maher, I really do. Because he’s sensible. We’re talking common sense. That’s all we’re looking for here, common sense. At least Bill Maher, he’s not changing his party. He says, I’m a lifelong Democrat, I’m not going to change. It gives reasons why. But he talks common sense and he calls people out when they should be called out because. Because he’s a smart guy with common sense. Period. So that’s it for today. So I want to thank Lindy Lee for coming on today. I really appreciate her courage.
I really appreciate her speaking out and talking the truth. Because that’s what we need, people. We need honesty. We need honest debate. We need honesty. And again, I invite the two party system. We need it. The Dems has got to clean up their act because right now they’re in outer space someplace. They’re a bunch of lunatics. So many of them. Them running around like, you know, chickens without heads, just saying anything, as long as it’s anti Trump anything. People be damned. That’s who they are. Well, my friends, that’s it for today. How do I always leave you? Same way.
Never going to change. Be safe. You know the drill. Be healthy. You know that drill also. And yes, God bless each and every one of you, all of your families, communities, neighborhoods, and God bless America. See you next time.
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