Overcoming Church Abuse TD Jakes Vatican SATANs AGENDA (LIVE)

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God bless. God bless to those that are watching us on YouTube. Let me stop sharing the screen real quick. Welcome. Welcome to the broadcast. Thank you for being here. I apologize there were a little bit a minute or two late, but as we get in the zoom room, our community, our TFG community, we just start talking and then one thing leads to another. So we have good dialogue and conversations and were just saying hi to each other.

So welcome to the stream. This is a stream where we’re going to be talking about spiritual abuse, church abuse, but also about the step that happens after, which is healing. What happens after we’ve encountered a difficulty in life? What happens after we’ve been hurt by a loved one? What happens after we’ve encountered something that just has haunted us for years because at the end of the day, God wants healing for your life.

Okay, so as we talk about these crazy things that happen in the church, from the Jimmy swaggers to the TD Jakes to the Vatican, doing the crazy things that they’re doing, and I’m going to be sharing with you a testimony of myself, of my own encounters that I’ve had. As we do, it’s important for us to always remember one very important aspect, and that is healing, moving forward and allowing us to learn the lesson that we needed to learn and not let the enemy hinder our walk.

In Jesus mighty awesome name. Okay, so while the broadcast starts spreading, if you can, would you be kind enough, if you’re watching this online, to press the thumbs up and share this broadcast? I’m going to play a brief worship song, get something to drink for a minute or so, and then we’re going to get going. Okay, in about a minute or two, if you’re watching the rebroadcast, hey, this topic may be for you.

It’s about healing. It’s about overcoming spiritual abuse because God has a purpose for your life. The enemy might have had his purpose with trying to distract you and cause the trauma, but God has a purpose, and that’s what today’s broadcast is all about. All right, so I’m going to put a song on. It’s an oldie. I don’t know if you’ve heard this oldie song, but you know what? Oldies sometimes are the best.

Check it out. You raise me up so I can stand on mountains. You raise me up to walk on stormy seas. I am strong when I am on your shoulders. You raise me up to more than I can raise me up so I can’t stand the mountains. You raise me up to walk on stormy seas I have to roll. When I am on your shoulders, you raise me up some more.

I paused it real quick. Because sometimes worship does something special for me in my life. In my life, worship for me, it allows me to just forget about my whole daily problems that I’ve had. Because sometimes whenever you go through a rough week or a rough moment, you can start thinking too much on that and these thoughts just start taking over. But when you take a little bit of time just to worship the heavenly Father, and as the song is saying, you raise me up, right? These intrusive thoughts sometimes don’t tell you that.

These intrusive thoughts sometimes tell you that you’re not going to make it. They tell you that it’s not going to be okay. They tell you that you have no hope. They tell you that you will not find the local congregation. All of these thoughts are not of God. But there’s a God who says that when you’re going through your difficulty and your circumstance, that he is going to raise you up.

And for me, that’s phenomenal that I can be. There is no life, no life without hunger. Each restless heart be so imperfectly. But when you come, I am filled with wonder. Sometimes I leave. I glimpse eternity. You raise me. I can stand on my head and I am. When I just show you raise me up so more than I can be. I don’t know about you, but I love the fact that our heavenly Father has raised us up to be more than what we ever thought we could achieve and do in our lives.

That’s the most awesome thing about our relationship with the heavenly Father and sister Shannon. It’s so good to see that you’re here. It’s such a blessing to see that you’re here. And on YouTube we have people that are from all over the world right now. And it’s such a blessing. From Carolinas to Florida to Ireland to Australia, it’s such a blessing to see that you’re taking time to tune into these broadcasts.

I know that this is not everyone’s cup of tea. I know that having these live streams where we’re all gathering together and talking about the word of God is not everyone’s cup of tea. But I do appreciate you giving us an opportunity. I do really appreciate that. Okay, so I’m going to be sharing a PDF on the screen really quick because I want to get us started on this conversation.

I think that it’s an important conversation to have and it’s a conversation that’s important to have from a mindset where we want to move on, right? Because if we have these conversations, I have had these conversations where I’ve had them from the mindset where I’m simply healing, right? When you have a mindset that you’re still healing, it’s always good to find the brother or sister in the Lord.

Call up brother Chris, sister Heidi, call Ernest, Amy, Shannon, Michelle, and vent. It’s always good to vent with a brother or sister in the Lord and talk to them. When you’re healing. It’s not a good thing usually for you to teach when you’re healing in terms of you let your flesh get intertwined. There’s been times that I’ve been having weekends. I mean, I’ve been doing YouTube for 15 years, okay? So I’ve gone through every stage.

So when I’m talking to you, I’m a person who’s pointing the finger at myself before anybody else, where I’ve gotten on this microphone and I’m hurt, someone’s done something and you know what? Have to take two weeks off, I just won’t record. Because you can tell when you’re speaking of something that has been already healed from the Holy Spirit, or you can tell when you’re speaking of something that you’re at a point that you’re just really hurt and you still need to take some time to just process things.

Right. Processing is not a bad thing. All right, so I’m going to share one with you. Where God has already worked in me, where healing has already happened, and where God was able to do something in me, to change me and to teach me lessons. Let’s get going. Okay, let’s get started. If you’re on YouTube, remember, if you can stay in one accord and stay in grace and stay loving each other, upholding each other, I’m going to be looking at the prayer requests as well.

We’re going to be praying for you live as well in this live stream. Okay. Hopefully you can see the screen. I don’t know if you can or not. Let me know if you can see it. Can you guys see it or can you not see it? Can you even see it on here? No. Okay, let me try it again. Hold up 1 second. One moment. Family, thanks for your patience.

All right. All right. I’m going to try one more time. If not, I’ll just get with it. I know I can’t see it. Let me see. Viewing options. Let me see what it could be. Viewing options. It does say Napatelli has started screen sharing, right? But it’s not showing up. All right, well, we’ll just skip that portion. I’ll just go straight to the video, if that’s okay with you guys.

Okay. If you guys want a copy of the PDF. So some people actually see it. Some people say they can’t see it. I’m going to try one more time. If it doesn’t work, we’re just going to continue. Okay, thanks for your patience, fam. All right, let me know if you all see it. Some people say they see it, some people say they don’t see it. That’s okay. I’m a visual learner, so I always like to have something on there.

But it’s no worries if you can’t see it. But it’s good for you to see the context of what I’m talking about on the PDF. So I’ll post a link for it later on. But church abuse is something that happens in a lot of congregations and in a lot of churches. Spiritual abuse is something that happens in a lot of congregations and in a lot of churches. It’s one of the most hurtful things that we can experience because it’s one of those things that cuts deep at us.

Many of us that especially grew up in homes, that we went to a local congregation to look for healing. We didn’t find that at a local congregation. We found something different. So there’s that perspective of healing. There’s also the perspective as well that we have to be balanced. And we have to remember that there are also very God fearing, awesome people that got into ministries and got into congregations and were simply trying to do their best.

And they have been also at the other end of being hurt. So there’s hurts everywhere. Why would they hurt? Because there are some people that sometimes we don’t have the same grace that God has upon us. So we have to stay balanced when talking about this, we have to remember that the hurt is not just one sided. There’s two sides of people here that could be hurt. I know of many pastors who wouldn’t dare ever even try to open another local congregation because of things that have happened to them.

And all they did was try their best. So when we talk about church wounds, we talk about being hurt, we talk about being wounded. Let’s be mindful in understanding that this goes both ways in both directions. Okay. So as far as myself, I want to speak on the first aspect, which is when you’re hurt by a local church, when you’re hurt by a local pastor, when you’re hurt by a local individual.

Online churches, especially now, anyone can pick up a microphone. Anyone can pick up a mic and say what they want to say, and you end up in a position that you’re hurt and you’re wounded. It’s not easy when that happens. That’s one of the most destructive things. And the Bible is pretty clear. Like in Jeremiah 23 one, he has a harsh warning for pastors. Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture, says the Lord.

So there’s a very big warning to those that hurt God’s children. You’re his baby. Okay? So there’s a very important aspect there that God understands that you’ve been hurt, that you’ve been wounded. And as someone just posted on YouTube, that’s why it’s important to test the fruits, right? It’s important to test your spirit and make sure that everything is good. There’s different sides of church trauma that you may have experienced.

I’ll give you an example. Genesis 13 eight and nine, when Abraham and lot, they were having a disagreement, right? And Abraham said unto lot, let there be no strife, I pray thee, between me and thee, and between my herd men and thy herdmen, for we be brethren, right? He was trying to be a peacemaker. It’s not the whole land before thee. Separate thyself, I pray thee, from thee.

If thou will take the left hand, then I will go to the right. If thou will depart to the right, then I will go to the left. I’ve been in situations like that as well. I’ve been in situations where I’ve had to tell a brother who assists, listen, I love you, but I don’t think that right now we’re operating in one accord necessarily. And I don’t want no strife.

I have no beef with you. I have no ill with you. I just think that right now, the way we’re headed may not be the right way, but I love you with all my heart. Let’s not strive. Okay? Notice that in all of these aspects, what I’m pointing at is that you are to be forgiving and you are to be a peacemaker. Okay? Just because you’re forgiving what someone’s done, that doesn’t mean that you are simply excusing what they did.

No, in no ways. It just means that you’re setting yourself free from that type of bondage. Because with unforgiveness, the devil loves to cause trauma in your life, to isolate you so that you don’t meet other brothers and sisters in the Lord. That could potentially be a blessing. To your life or that you can potentially be a blessing to their life as well. Okay? Does that make sense? Hopefully that makes sense.

Okay. Now, there’s the aspect of false teachers in the church, right? There’s a lot of wolves in the church. In no way am I saying that you’re to coddle a wolf, okay? A wolf is a wolf, okay? That’s why first, John four, one tells you, beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits, whether they’re of God, because many false prophets are gone out into the world, okay? So if you have a prophetic anointing teacher or someone, whoever it is, and it says one plus one is three, it actually isn’t, it’s two.

Right? Make sure that you obey God rather than man. Okay? But there’s a right way to do things and a wrong way to do things. There’s a right way to do things and a wrong way to do things. And what I am telling you is that I myself have had the moment in my life where I have not done it the right way. Okay? So as we talk about spiritual abuse, as we talk about church wounds, as we talk about all of these things, it is imperative for us to also remember the accountability that lies upon us.

Because I know for myself, I got myself into so many deep things that honestly, if I would have just seen the red flags from the beginning which the Holy Spirit told me about, I would have never experienced the trauma that I experienced at the end. But I excused a lot of things that I should not excused and I allowed a lot of things that I should not have allowed.

And one compromise led to another compromise and boom, it blows up right in my face as someone just put on YouTube. One plus one equals eleven, right? So we have to be accountable to what we’ve done and we haven’t done. I wish you can see the PDF, because I have actual pictures of the example that I wanted to show you. But I’ll just tell you, this is one that’s already been resolved in my life and one where there’s been a positive resolution of it as well.

So that’s a blessing. As I started making videos on YouTube, and as you know, coming to this aspect of things, it was a transition that happened because of experiences that I had in the know. And as Tina on YouTube just said, it’s hard to trust again. But I’m working on it. And I get that. Thank you for your honesty, Tina. All right. And for all of you that are watching around the world, thank you for your honesty in your home.

Maybe you’re like that. Hopefully by the end of this broadcast, we can work on that with each other, because I know I’m working on it myself every day. So I attended a local church, and this was a church that started with five people, seven people. We started at someone’s house, and little by little, it spread to 1015, 20 people, 25 people. Eventually we were able to rent. It was a baptist church, and they allowed us to rent their church buildings on Sundays and on Wednesdays.

So we were able to get there. And there was a lot of big population of Latinos. This was by Curry Ford Road in Orlando. And I was mean. It was one of the best days of my life. There’s nothing like growing up with a congregation. And you’re starting from the bottom, and everyone has the right intentions, and everyone has the right ideas. And then one day we had analysts that came to the church.

These were church analysts. And these analysts were sent forth by an apostle. His name was Nahum Rosario. So this apostle, Nahum Rosario, he was from Latin America, but he also had churches in the United States. And what they typically do is they visit different churches that align with the market that they’re trying to get themselves into. All right, Brother Vekal. I love you, Vekal. God bless you. We go way back.

He’s on YouTube. I love you, brother. Thank you for being here, man. So back to the story. Pastor Nehum Rosario, he said he was an apostle and they were in the market to open up latino churches, right? But as he’s in the market to open up latino churches, he found our church. And he wanted to now be the spiritual covering of our church. Okay? So that’s how it started.

So he sent analysts to the church, and the analysts came to the church. And they looked at the finances of the church, they looked at the attendance of the church, they looked at the potential growth of the church. A bunch of things that, honestly, even at that point in time, in my immaturity, I was talking to the pastor and I was telling the pastor, I was like, bro, this is like a business venture for them.

God has already blessed you with the opportunity of. We started in a living room and look at how God has allowed this to grow without any type of stuff. But he was maturing as well. And in the maturity process, he was still learning how to run a congregation himself. And notice that as I’m talking about these things, I’m giving grace. Why am I doing this, you may ask? Because I want to set the tone for this conversation in that you have to remember that in any aspect that you do in life, whether it’s confronting a false teacher, whether it’s anything, use the same grace that God demonstrates against you.

And I had conversations with him. One thing led to another. He signed with that congregation. They actually mentioned a couple of times that if they did not see church growth, they would close the church. It became one of those things that was very weird. And everything hit the fan when one day the apostle sent his messengers over to the church. And it was a message that now we had to recite songs that he wrote.

Now, I’ll be honest with you, man. Some people can write songs. This man cannot write not a lick of a song. All right? So I’m not even going to lie to you and act like his songs were. I mean, I would rather read Dr. Zeus and sing that these songs were trash, okay? But aside from the fact that they were trash, and this is just me speaking bluntly with you, they were all idolizing him.

And that’s what made them trash. All of them were singing praise the Lord Jesus Christ. And then for Apostle nahum, rosario, you see what I mean? So it was using the fact that you honor and you respect leaders and this and this and that and the other. But then every song was, oh, I’m sorry, I just hit the thing. Every song fell into the. We have to worship the apostle.

Every song had the apostle’s name on it. I remember being in the church and just thinking to myself, man, I finally opened up. I finally joined the local congregation and, man, what on earth is going on here? And I had to talk to the pastor in private, had a conversation with him. And that conversation led to me just sharing with him, hey, listen, man, I love you with all my heart, man, but I ain’t singing none of them songs, man.

You’re absolutely bananas. I’m not about to sing none of them. I can’t sing regardless. And you’re going to have me sing this. What are you talking about? He would laugh at it and we would joke around about it because honestly, we were young. This is 2008. We’re talking about 15 years ago, 2007, 2008. So this is a long time ago. I had to leave. I told him, listen, what I’m going to do.

Just not to make it a spectacle. I’m just going to stop attending little by little. But, you know, latino churches are crazy. In latino churches, they want you to go Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. Latino churches, they hardcore, okay? So if you miss a day, you miss a day in the spanish church. For those of you that are latino, that are watching this on the actual thing. I ain’t saying nothing.

So I told them, bro, this is what I’m going to do, all right? I’m just going to stop coming maybe once a week and then I’ll stop coming every two weeks, and then you’re just not going to see me. You’re just not going to see me here. You know what I’m saying? But I am not about to sing no hum Rosario songs. And these songs were the corniest songs you would ever think, man.

There was no rhyme or nothing. All right, long story short, I left, man. It broke my heart. It broke my heart and it broke my heart because I was so close to. If you know me as a friend, you know that it takes a while for me to trust you. But once I trust you, man, I’m the type of guy that if you tell me we’re going to fight at 330, I’ll be there with a baseball bat, I’m going to get thrown.

All right, I’ll be there. So we were really tight. We were really tight. And that was very hard on my life and it was very hard on his life, too, because, you know, it was a broken relationship. It was a broken relationship. Took years to heal. Long story short, the good news is that church broke off from that. After a while, they realized that it was a deception.

They ended up having to take control over their finances. They took over everything. It turned into a business. Right? And while you want your church to grow and you want to get everything prepared and you want to have the right accounting, you want to have the right things, it turned into something that it was never meant to be. So they broke off from that. They’re free from that.

That church is actually doing pretty good right now. Glory to Jesus Christ. Right? So that’s a blessing. So why did I even share that with you? It’s just to kind of let you know that that’s just one of the many stories that I have of church wounds. Church wounds, when you see something beautiful start going up and then the enemy comes with a temptation. He infiltrates and then he causes division.

And then that division destroys the flock. And it took me many years to open up to people after that. It took me more years than what it should have taken to open up after that. And Matthew 20 412 tells us, right, and because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. And the one thing that I had to ask myself as we’re going through these church wounds or we’re going through these spiritual attacks or we’re going through any of the things that we’re going through is, have I allowed this world to affect the love that I have for my brother, my sister in the Lord and towards the heavenly Father? One thing is a wolf.

Wolf is a wolf. I’m not talking about that. But there are brothers and sisters in the Lord that are carrying loads from the. Should not be carrying anymore. That the Lord wants to heal you from, that the Lord wants to potentially, we’re having these gatherings here, which is a blessing that we’re here. Right. But by no, all means, this is a replacement for you to try to find local assembly because that’s important.

I know when I first met Lou, he could tell you I’ve changed a lot since I met him because now I know him a lot better. But these things will follow you for a while. But you have to get to a point that you allow healing to take over your life. Brother, let me ask you a quick question. Yes, sir. With what the Lord has shown you in these last few years about how not to be offended by things, if you could go back in time with that mindset, how much would that have shortened the hurt that you felt? Dramatically.

Dramatically. Because for me, what happened is I took it too personal. And what do I mean by taking it too personal is loyalty. Maybe it’s my definition of loyalty, Chris. Everyone has their definition of loyalty. But for me, loyalty means that we’re riding or dying. You know what I mean? And I know that’s a weird way to say it, but for me, loyalty means that I’m going to do everything I can.

And I was like that when I was in the street and when I came to the church, it carried into the fact that I’m like that when you’re my friend or you’re my brother in Christ. I love too hard man. So when I saw that something that we built up and I opened up, Chris, and it turned into nothing, I took it personal. I took it very personal, and I shouldn’t have.

Because ephesians 612 tells us we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but sometimes we think we do wrestle against flesh and blood. So we want to take it to a step that we shouldn’t take it, even though it says that we wrestle not against flesh and blood. But I’m that type of person, Chris, that if I say that I’m down with you, I’m down with you, it don’t really matter.

And because of that, when someone goes to a point that they do something incorrect and I go to the person and I talk to the person. Back then, my response was completely different. Now my response would be completely different because I’ve matured a lot, I’ve healed a lot. I’ve learned to not take things personal because we are not from this kingdom. And, Chris, that’s been the change in my mindset where I no longer, and I don’t want to say I no longer because we struggle with these things, but I no longer just flap my gums for flapping my gums or react for reacting.

I now think of the fact that I am from a kingdom of above and that I can’t control if one day someone hurts me, but I can control my reaction. Does that make sense? Chris? Amen, brother. I spent many years on the wrong side of not being offended. And because of that, lost many opportunities, had many emotional feelings and reactions that were fruitless. So it’s amazing. And the enemy wants us to stay in that line of thinking.

He loves us when we’re doing that because we take ourselves off the roster, so to speak, for active duty for the Lord. And we don’t want to do that, especially the day and age that we’re living in. Hi, brother Chris. If we could take back the know. I remember one time, and then we’ll get to the other part of what we’re doing here today. This is a funny story because me and him talked after, but I used to work at a call center, and I had just given my life to Jesus Christ.

I’m straight from Puerto Rico, you know what I’m saying? And back then, man, you think you’re super thug, you know what I mean? I was Old Testament style, I guess, because I was not going to have it, but anybody, I don’t know why, but I was just very immature. This is 2002, 2003 tally, so this is 20 years ago. So I work at a call center and I’m trying to learn my english.

You’re getting cussed out, and I’m trying to learn how to manage things. Da da da da. Well, my manager, he was a bishop at a church, right? And I’m not going to mention his name, but he was a bishop at a church, and he knew that I was going to get a big check at the end of the month. I did not know about it. He knew about it because he was a manager and I was selling everything.

Back then, I used to sell steaks on the phone. I used to sell meat, chicken breast, local long distance packages, because back then you had to pay for local and long distance calls if anyone’s worked at a call center, you know what I’m talking about? Call centers are like that. So anyways, he comes to me and he says he has a word from God. It’s a revelation. It’s a rema word from the heavens.

All right, let’s hear this revelation. So anyways, that I’m going to be blessed with some financial miracle and this and this and that. I’m like, man, praise the Lord, bring it. I want to be highly favored. So anyway, we get to the point that it comes, and then that day, I do get blessed with that check, and he says that he needs to borrow some money. So I told him, I said, bro, listen, we were homeless a few months ago.

I not only live check to check, I live beyond that. This was a real blessing for me. But if you got a need, man, you’re a man of God, bro, you can pay me in two weeks. He was like, I’ll pay you in two weeks. I said, all right, so let’s go to the bank, give him whatever it is. It was $400. So gave him that to some people.

That’s not a lot for me back then, man. That’s a lot of money. So, Chris, this is what happened, man. That check bounced like a basketball when he paid me back, when he paid me back, Chris, that check bounced like a back. It bounced back. Then returned item fees weren’t like, now. So returned item fees were like 30 something dollars every time. Now they have at least a little bit of grace.

They’re like, hey, man, we’re just not going to deposit anymore. So I was dead broke, bro. So I go to the bank, Chris, this is funny, Chris, because now we can talk about these things and it’s hilarious. And they’re telling me they can’t stop depositing it. I’m like, man, I don’t know what to do. And I go to him, and you know what he says? He says, the bible.

The bible talks about faith. Hold my hand. Let’s pray for faith. I’m like, bro, we’re not going to pray for faith. We’re going to pray for me, not to give you a beat down. That’s what we’re going to pray for, okay? Because we’re going to go to the bank right now, and we’re going to find this money somehow or another. I’m going to talk to the bosses here.

I’m going to talk to whoever here. I’m going to come home with my money today, because right now, overdraft of one $200 that I don’t even have. Long story short, Chris, I handled that so wrong. Chris, I did the opposite of anything biblical to do. I remember I brought Jose with me. Jose was more born again than me. He was two months born again, and he was in the streets, too.

Jose was Old Testament style, too. And I remember talking to him. Chris, I am so embarrassed to even tell you that the way I handled it was so bad because it was fleshly. Have you ever had that, Chris, that you’ve had those responses that are fleshly? Too many to count, brother. Yeah, well, you know, that’s the thing that we want to guard ourselves of when we’re in our emotional state and we’ve been hurt and we have something that is very hard for us to get over.

It’s easy to stay connected with that trail of thoughts that will keep us in that state. And we may not like what the Bible says about dying to ourselves and taking our thoughts captive and those kinds of things, but the reality of it is it’s far better if we do than if we stay in that condition where the enemy is just continually feeding us thoughts, keeping us down, keeping us not useful.

And yeah, I wish I would have discovered these things before I was in my late 50s. So any of you that can get on that right path before that, you’re beating me. Praise the Lord. That’s too funny, Chris. And it’s good that we’ve had these 30 something minutes now. What is it? We’ve been on 36 minutes. We’ve shared a couple of things and we’ve turned in a little bit into a light hearted conversation because, as you can see, the reason that I can laugh at these things and Chris can laugh at the things he’s going through, and we can all have a little bit of a chuckle is because, guys, we got to move past it.

Sometimes we have to move past it. Otherwise we run the risk of it tarnishing the calling that God has for our lives. And it’s not easy. Brother Chris, before we go to our homework assignments for our brothers and sisters, do you have something you want to share before we go to that, or do you think we should go to that first? Whatever you think, brother. When you regard the homework, are you referring to just the Bible verses? No, I know that Amy was going to share something as well.

Yeah, probably good to just run over these real. And tally and I had talked this week and we discussed these things and as being ones that the Lord has allowed us to interact with others concerning spiritual matters. It’s a very heavy weight on our hearts and we don’t want to mislead or misguide anybody. And so I just went through the scriptures real quick and Heidi’s going to read them.

Read through these and I might take a couple of highlights, but it only take a few minutes, so she’ll read through these first and then. Yeah, first. Peter 417 for the time has come for judgment to begin at the house of God. And if it begins with us first, what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God? Now that the righteous one is scarcely saved, where will the ungodly and the sinner appear? Therefore, let those who suffer according to the will of God commit their souls to him in doing good as to a faithful creator.

Matthew 1833 through 35 Jesus said, should you not also have had compassion on your fellow servant, just as I had pity on you? And his master was angry and delivered him to the torturers until he should pay all that was due him. So my heavenly Father also will do to you if each of you from his heart does not forgive his brother’s trespasses. Luke 641 through 42 and why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but do not perceive the plank in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, brother, let me remove the speck that is in your eye when you yourselves do not see the plank that is in your own eye? Hypocrite.

First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the spec that is in your brother’s eye. Ephesians 429 through 32 let no corrupt word proceed out of your mouth, but what is good for necessary edification, that it may impart grace to the hearers, and do not grieve the holy spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption, let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamor, and evil speaking be put away from you with all malice and be kind to one another, tender hearted, forgiving one another, even as God in Christ forgave you.

Colossians 312 through 35 excuse me, twelve through 15 therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, put on tender mercies, kindness, humility, meekness, long suffering, bearing with one another and forgiving one another. If anyone has a complaint against another, even as Christ forgave you, so you also must do but above all things put on love, which is the bond of perfection. And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to which also you were called in one body.

Romans five one through five therefore, having been justified by faith we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom also we have access by faith into this grace in which we stand and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. Not only that, but also glory in tribulations, knowing that tribulations produces perseverance and perseverance, character and character. Hope now hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who is given to us.

Two Corinthians one three through seven blessed be the God and father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the father of mercies and God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort those who are in any trouble with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God. Or as the sufferings of Christ abound in us, so our consolation also abounds through Christ.

Now if we are afflicted, it is for your consolation and salvation, which is effectively important during the same sufferings which we also suffer. Or if we are comforted, it is for your consolation and salvation, and our hope for you is steadfast. Because we know that you are partakers of the sufferings, so also you will partake of the consolation. Let’s keep going. Matthew 614 through 15 Jesus says, for if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.

But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your father forgive your trespasses. Mark 1125 through 26 Jesus says, and whenever you stand praying, if you have anything against anyone, forgive him that your father in heaven may also forgive you your trespasses. But if you do not forgive, neither will your father in heaven forgive your trespasses. Romans 818 for I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed to us.

One Peter 220 through 25 for what credit is it if when you are beaten for your faults, you take it patiently? But when you do good and suffer, if you take it patiently, this is commendable before God. For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leading us an example that you should follow his steps, who committed no sin, nor was deceit found in his mouth, who when he was reviled, did not revile and return.

When he suffered, he did not threaten, but committed himself to him who judges righteously, who himself bore our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, having died to sins, might live for righteousness, by whose stripes you were healed, for you were like sheep going astray. What have now returned to the shepherd and overseer of your souls? Two Corinthians, chapter four, seven through 14. But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellence of the power may be of God and not of us.

We are hard pressed on every side, yet not crushed. We are perplexed but not in despair, persecuted but not forsaken, struck down but not destroyed, always caring about in the body, the dying of the Lord Jesus. That the life of Jesus also may be manifested in our body. For we who live are always delivered to death for Jesus’sake that the life of Jesus also may be manifest in our mortal flesh.

So then that is working in us, but life in you. And since we have the same spirit of faith according to what is written, I believe and therefore I spoke. We also believe and therefore speak, knowing that he raised up the Lord Jesus, will also raise us up with Jesus and will be present and will present us with you for all things are for your sakes. That grace, having spread through many, may cause thanksgiving to abound to the glory of God.

So I thought it was important for us to go through these discussions we’re having with a biblical perspective on what the Lord expects of us and how we’re supposed to handle these things. And I know, and you guys have heard me say this before, that the Lord has me be a log inspector or plank inspector, that I’m always looking for what’s in my eye. And quite honestly, by the time I’m done doing that, I don’t much care about the spec in someone else’s eye, because we present ourselves to the Lord and it does happen to still be there.

Then at least we investigated our own condition. And so we don’t want to allow situations in this world to let the enemy will come in and cause us just as much harm by us having a pity party for ourselves and not learning what the lesson is the holy spirit wants to teach us. If he can get us to focus on ourself and not on what the lesson is, then we can lose as important of an opportunity as we could by know, getting us angry and mad and all that.

And so we just want to make sure that we’re going before the Lord, looking at ourselves, having ourselves evaluated before the Lord, and then remember the importance of forgiveness. If there’s people here that have unforgiveness in their heart, that grieves me, that’s an eternal matter. That’s something we have to be very serious about and very concerned about that with one another. And if anybody is, please give us a message or something.

And we’ll be praying for that and trying any way we can to help for that unforgiveness, because we don’t want to see that be a stumbling block for you on your assignment that the Lord has. But I think that we can take this opportunity and take these situations and have victory in them through our Lord Jesus. And we can overcome Satan and the thoughts that he’s used to trip us up, the thoughts that he’s used to distract us, all of the negative energy he’s tried to feed through a situation.

And this is the thing I just want to attest to firsthand. When I prayed earnestly for the Lord to show me how to die to myself, it was not fun, 18 months at all. Because the only way those things are going to happen is you’re going to go through some crap and you’re going to have some realizations about who you really are, revealed to you, and the Lord’s going to put you in these difficult situations.

And why did I miss all these lessons most of my life? I never asked the Lord, what are you trying to teach me? Because he wasn’t important enough to me. Well, now he’s important enough to me. And so when any situation comes up, I don’t care if it’s a car wreck, losing the job, whatever it be, whatever it is, Lord, what are you trying to teach me? And when we start using that as our basis for what we’re going to allow ourselves to think about, it almost blocks out the enemy and most of his crap right away.

Because we’re like, I’m not interested in all that crap, Satan. I’m interested in what the Lord’s trying to teach me. And I know for my situation and the dying of self things. And like you tally learning how to not be offended. Your pathway was a little bit different, but we have some similarities in where the Lord brought us to and that if we can be obedient to scripture and you think about what it says in Philippians four to eight, verse, chapter four, four through eight, rejoice in all things.

That’s a tough one right there now. But if the word says we can do it, then the problem isn’t with the word. The problem is with me that I’m not able to do that. But rejoice in the Lord always. Again I say rejoice. Let your gentleness be known to all men. The Lord is at hand. Be anxious for nothing but in everything by prayer and supplication. With thanksgiving, let your request be known to God.

I had this guy that was in prison for 17 years and then he got out and we worked with him for several months and he was the gain leader of Satan’s disciples and some other crazy stuff. And he had threatened to send his gain out to beat up or kill us. Heidi and I, a couple of different times. But there was one particular night where I let fear get into me for a little bit.

It took 6 hours going before the Lord. It’s like, why am I like this? I was looking out the driveway, looking out the windows, and Heidi was like, nothing happened. What’s your problem? And I kept most of it from her. But I just want to use that as an illustration is we can be at peace and we can take our thoughts captive. And I know because of all the times that I failed, what it’s like when I don’t.

So I just want to encourage everyone that no matter what kind of crap lies ahead of us, it’s going to make it a lot easier if we can do a couple of things. If we can first ask, what is the lesson that I’m supposed to learn here? Because if we got some big stuff that needs to be worked on in our life like I did, sometimes those lessons are big stuff.

I had a year or so ago, after the Lord had led me through this dying to self stuff, he had a guy call me the devil. He goes, you’re the devil. You work for the devil. The Holy Spirit told me not to listen to a word you say. And it grieved my heart. I was like, brother. And he wouldn’t even talk to me. It was the craziest situation.

And when I got done with that, my old way would have been, I’d have been trying to follow this guy. I’d probably have been stalking him at his house. I probably would have went into a restaurant, I’m going to talk to you. I would have been that kind of person. Even though I didn’t do that stuff, I thought about it in the past and in a moment in time after this guy got in his car, it was just like the Lord Jesus put his arm on my shoulder and said, I just gave you a promotion.

I let you experience the same kind of thing I did. And I tell you what, it was the most warming, heartwarming thing to think someone could call me that. And that I felt like the Lord was just saying, woo. I just letting you experience what I experienced. Isn’t this pretty cool? So I just want to say that as encouragement when we start just saying, lord, no matter how hard it is, I’m going to do what your word says, then we start to have these kinds of experiences that puts us in the awe and wonder of the Lord.

That’s where he wants us to be all the time, in the awe and wonder of who he. So, do you have anything you want to add into the mix, Miss Heidi? I’m excited to hear what our two individuals have to say. And so, yeah, I’d like to hear what they’ve, you know, it’s awesome, and I appreciate brother reading the scriptures. Sister Heidi did such an awesome, awesome job.

Thank you for doing that. That’s such a blessing how all the scriptures fit with each other. And it’s good that we’re talking about what we’re talking about, yet we’re pointing towards healing and victory. That’s extremely, extremely important. So if you’re tuning into these live streams every Tuesday, we’re trying to help everyone get developed, right? So we’ll give everyone homework. So we’re taking turns here. So this week we have a couple of sisters that we gave a little homework for them to go ahead and open up the scriptures and at the same time, share a little bit of what’s in their hearts, leading with the topic that we’re talking about this week.

So, Sister Amy, do you care to start us off? And then I know we have Victoria and then we have Shelly as well. We also have people on YouTube that are watching this. Just wanted to let y’all know on YouTube, start posting any prayer requests that you may have by the end of the stream so we can pray with you. Okay. Thank you for being on YouTube. Thank you for watching this on YouTube.

All right, go ahead, sister. And on rumble, too. Thank you. Go ahead, Sister Amy. I’m going to try my darndest. I’m like you. I really don’t like being center of attraction and talking. Well, attention, not attraction, but back home in, you know, we live in Tennessee now. Been here almost two years, but not quite. But I was raised in a pentecostal church down in know where. Grandmas, aunts, uncles, cousins, the whole shenanigans were down there.

And they were really close to Papa Dobbs. That’s what we called him. And they used him to get to me, trying to twist scriptures around. Because this is when I started dating outside my so called race. And I just left. I left a church, I left the state of Florida. I went up to Virginia for three years. And then I came back in 1992 and I started going back to that same church, and I decided that I’d cast all my cares to the Lord on the altar.

So as I had done that, I started getting really close to the Lord. And of all people, my mother. My mother was not a very nice woman. And then my mother, whenever she saw that I was growing spiritually with Christ, she hit me to the core. Oh, well, now you think that you’re holier than thou. I’m still a babe in Christ. I left the church again. I said, lord, I just can’t do this because I don’t know what to do, because you try to honor your parents.

And I still did what I was supposed to do inside at my house, watching television, on christian tv. And then you find out that you got the TD fates, you got rod parsley, all of them preachers that I used to listen to, that is prosperity. So I’m saying, like, oh, lord. And then I went back to the church. When I went back the next time, a friend of mine, I took her to the church, and she got saved and everything.

And next thing you know, she was fighting with the pastor’s son, who ended up being the pastor and his wife. And I’m saying, wait, here we go again. Here we go again. So I remember one night, I’ve already been out of church for about two years after that one, and I remember sitting on the bed listening to some man, I cannot tell you today who it was, but he said, church are like people.

There’s none that’s perfect. So I said, okay, that makes some sense. And then I went with Joel Osteen. I was at Walmart one day, and I’ve seen this book that says how to become a better you. And it’s a ten week program that I had went through, and you couldn’t skip through it or anything of that nature. And a lot of it had to do with forgiveness. So you find the issue of certain things.

And the Lord had me go back to my mother for number one person to go back to my mother. And it was so hard getting in touch with her because, like I said, she was so mean. But then once I told her, I said, mom, I said, whatever I have done to you, please forgive me anything that I’ve done wrong to you. And I said, but, mom, I forgive you for everything that you’ve done wrong to me.

And believe it or not, ever since then, my mom, she became a little bit nicer. But then she got the. All the timers, I call it all the timers instead of Alzheimer’s. And she became a nicer person when she had the Alzheimer’s. And then it was to the point to where I would say, mom, are you saved? And she said, yeah, because I would say the Lord’s prayer with her, just in case, because her mind was gone or what have you.

And needless to say, about two years ago, she passed. And even whenever we come up here to Tennessee, it’s been a blessing. But you also see people that if you’re not in their inner circle, because even the little church that we go to, it’s like it’s more family or what have you. And Ernest is the only. What he calls himself a spot in there, but they love him to death, but they keep me at a distance.

And I know that my spirit doesn’t mix with their spirit, because I’m not the type of person that let anything roll, so to speak. If you’re wrong, I’m going to say you’re wrong, and then I’ll back it up with scripture. And I don’t know if I need to be a little bit lenient or whatever, and I’m kind of nervous. It’s just crazy how you get hurt from church, and then it’s even worse when it’s your own family member.

And even before we came here, we went to this other little church that hubby had his friends going to. And the pastor there told me, I don’t know how we had this little conversation. He said, well, maybe you never knew God in the beginning. I said, what? Really? I said, the devil is a liar. And then we end up stopped going to that one, too, because they was more of, what do you call that? The apostolic, where it’s.

What do you call it? But he also got mad, too, and we was trying to share him your stuff, sharing him your links and stuff. He’ll labor. You need to stop listening to all type of people. They’re going to lead you wrong way. And I’m like, dude, really? Churches is crazy. And I think the only reason why at the church we’re going to now, why they like me, probably because, like she said, I am the only spot there.

And I think they probably feel like they’re obligated to like me. That’s the way I feel. But I could be wrong, but I don’t know. But yeah, she went through a lot of church hurt for the pastors and the first ladies and the people inside of the church, and it took her away, even with me. It took me away from church as well, too. And that’s when we, I mean, because even though we was watching you and all that, and we had a connection with you, but we were still trying to.

And remember, like I told you, I was like, well, I don’t want to go to church because these churches is crazy. You told me, just give them another chance. Give them a chance. And we did. But it’s like, I don’t know, they probably mean well, but it’s just you can feel that since we’re not family that they don’t really include us in nothing or nothing like that. But I don’t know because we also have to be set apart.

We’re not supposed to be like everybody else. And we notice that a lot of these churches corresponds with what the world is doing because we don’t celebrate none of the holidays, we just celebrate the holy days. And then they want to throw out, well, you’re Jehovah Witness. And I said, no, we’re just followers of Christ. Because if people would actually dig deep and read the paganism and how it all began, they would also realize that too.

And a lot of people don’t change because the church that we go to now, majority of the time they’re asking us what Bible verses. Meanwhile they’re reading it and trying to teach a congregation. Needless to say, they ain’t but 1015 folks there. But still. But it’s a struggle. It is a struggle even with people, because I’ve always had a calling on my life. And it seemed like the more that I got into my calling, it’s like people just separated themselves from me because I could talk to somebody and I could tell them, this is what happened in your life.

And they’ll look at me like, well, how did you know that? And I said, well, it can only be by the grace of God. And it’s like there was things that God showed me that I was so scared and I ran from church for that too, because he was teaching me so much and I didn’t know how to deal with it. Being a young person in life, that dealt with a whole lot of the stuff that I was dealing with.

But the church hurt. Do you think you still have healing that needs to happen? Would you say that that’s still something that. And the good thing is that it hasn’t hindered you from still wanting to always be hungry for the word of God and always to seek God and stuff like that? And I know you both off of this whole youth, so I know how much they’ve actually tried a lot.

They’ve gone to a lot of different places. And I’m always the one telling them. I’m always the one telling them, go to another one, try another. You know, I’m always trying to give them the positive speech and stuff like that. Thank you for being vulnerable, Amy. Thank you for being vulnerable. These are conversations that are hard. Do you think that there’s still healing that needs to take place? And what steps do you think that you could take this year in 2024 towards getting.

I could say yes. And the thing about it is, I shouldn’t be offended with what anybody thinks or say about me, because their word really don’t matter. It’s what God thinks of me and just learning and striving just to get closer to him, because I don’t want to be like everybody else. I want to be that set apart person. I want to be the one to where if he needs me, he can call on me and he can trust me like I trust him to do whatever it is that he asks me to.

Because right now, the only thing I want to do is win souls for the kingdom. All that other stuff really shouldn’t even matter. Well, I know both of them outside of the camera, and I can tell you that both of them are people that love God, and they’ve gone through a lot. And I’m always trying to encourage them to keep on finding another good place. And it’s sad because.

But you know what? Don’t lose hope. If there’s something that always reminds me, and this is the best advice I can give you, and it’s probably repetitive because we’ve talked about this all the time. But one thing that I ask God every day, and I know this is hard. Like Chris said, sometimes when you ask God for something, he’s going to send you some trials and tests to get you to that place.

But it’s two timothy, 224 25, and the servant of the Lord must not strive but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient in meekness, instructing those that oppose themselves if God, per eventure will give them repentance to the acknowledgment of the truth. And it’s also like Romans 1218, where it says, if it be possible as much as life in you, live peaceably with all men. There’s even scriptures that say that you could be at peace even with your enemies.

So as you’re going through this journey and as you’re going through everything, don’t stop. Okay? Keep searching, keep looking. You know what I mean? And until then, you’re here with us. So that’s a know. But just know how proud I am of you, Amy, that you actually got on camera. This is a big know. You got on camera. You got on mean. I know that there’s more to say, but I get like your boy here wants to open up a YouTube channel.

It’s like with them horses, never know. I’ll help. It’s sister Amy. This is the thing about these chats that we have that it puts it in a vulnerable know. If we all just get here on the mic and say that everything’s jolly and great, it would be easy, right? But I know it’s not. I do want to say real quick that we do have a prayer request on YouTube.

If you’re watching on YouTube and you posted these, know that we are going to pray for you. We have our sister ginger. She’s actually a co worker of mine. Her mother passed away a few hours ago. Cherie is asking for prayers for her husband, Jennifer. For health issues. Sister Delish travels. She has had experience of 20 years in the Jehovah witnesses cult and there’s a lot of family wounds.

If you know anything about the jdubs, jdubs do not play. They will cut you off. It doesn’t matter if you’re anything to them. Tina, for her finances, Sister CM indicated that her daughter needs prayers. In the name of Jesus Christ. She posted a little bit more, but her daughter definitely needs prayers. Love, energy. She is in the position that she was at homeless shelter. I think she mentioned other aspects.

Just want you to know that we’re praying for you. And Jacqueline’s daughter needs prayer as well. So I’m writing down prayers as they come on there so that we can pray at the end. And Sister Amy, you did phenomenal. I’m proud of you for getting on camera. All right. And you never know when the next one is. I appreciate you. Are you good? Anything else you want to get up? Anything? You’re good.

So we’re going to go to you. Good, right? All right. You did awesome. And the important thing on all of this is, and everyone in your life is, and I’m telling you, ask God to please. Two Timothy 224 25. God every day, make me more gentle, make me more apt to teach, make me more patient because I found in dealing with people, and I deal with people every day, that if you were to just sometimes tame this a little bit and just wait even a minute before you even speak something, the Holy Spirit will change completely what you were even thinking of changing of.

And that is so true because before I would never hold my tongue. Now it’s like before I do anything, Lord, just please help me say what it is that I need to say. I don’t want to speak from me. Just allow me to say what it is that you want me to say because I try not to speak first. Well, we love you, sis, and we appreciate you taking the time to share a little bit about it.

Sister Shelley, you ready to go? Sister Shelley Lovell? Yeah. How are you, Shelly? How are you? I’m good. How are you? Hey, it’s a blessing to see that you’re doing good. And thank you for coming here and talking with us. What do you have in your heart? Okay, I’ll share about my church hurt. I’ve been through so many. I’m going to try to say it without it being long.

Okay. First I want to say, God is so good, it hurts to go through fiery trials, and it hurts to go through church hurt. But God truly, truly molds and shapes us in it and opens our eyes and teaches us and refines our character in it. And I’m just grateful. I’m grateful for the fire because that’s where you are molded and shaped for God’s glory and to be used by him in greater ways.

And that will bring him glory and win people to him. And he just develops character in us, which is a blessing to those around us. God is great. My first church was the garden church. And I’m going to say the name. I don’t think it’s wrong. I don’t think it’s wrong to say the name because there are churches out there hurting people. I don’t know if I’m wrong.

Tell me, and I won’t say the name. But the first church was garden church in Long beach. They did, like, yoga, and we would have house churches. And this one guy, he did yoga class. He was teaching people, which is totally. The yoga is so demonic. And he was talking about laughing a lot, and I was just like, no, you all this is the Kundalini spirit here. And then after that, they just really didn’t like me.

And I was really open about stuff I was going through spiritually. Before I really knew the Lord, I invoked demons. So I was going through some stuff and they just kind of like. I guess it was freaky to them and they thought I was crazy, so they met with me and they didn’t want me at the house churches anymore and made it like I was mentally ill. That’s something Satan does a lot, is he’ll try to paint a picture of you, like, you’re crazy.

That’s just from the devil. Because I’m not crazy. We all suffer and struggle and have struggles, but I’m given a sound mind. My mind is being restored by the Lord every day. And what about know? Doesn’t Jesus call the sick? Not the right, but they casted me know, like, oh, you’re mentally ill. You need to get out of here. But isn’t the church for the sick? But there’s people out there that actually don’t know him.

And I had to learn that because at the beginning, I was just like, oh, you’re christian. I’m christian, too. I love Jesus. You love. No, no. Not everybody who says they’re from Jesus is from me. It took a process. Another time I got rejected was at this program by Rick Warren called celebrate recovery, and it’s for people with hurts, hangups, and habits. And it was going good. And I had missed one of the classes and met with one of the leaders, the woman leader, and talked about the timeline I was supposed to do, and everything was going good, and there was no, hey, you’re doing this wrong.

You need to have this correction, none of that. Everything was going good, right? And then all of a sudden, hey, they’re like, hey, we want to meet with you with a pastor. And it’s a lot, right? It’s a lot that you’ve gone through. Can I ask you a question, Shelley? Last week, you specifically mentioned church wounds. What inspired that? What was the number one thing that came to your mind when you mentioned that? What event? The number one event that happened that sparked you to say, can we talk about church wounds? Well, I’ve gone through so much of it, and I think people feel alone in the body of Christ, and I think it would help people to know that they’re not alone and to hear other people’s story and then grow from that.

Grow? That’s awesome, because it saddens me that you’ve gone through events where you feel that way. Can I ask, if possible, just so I can get to know you better? Have you grown from any of in these events? I know that in my case, sister, when I went through periods of feeling hurt and through periods where I felt loneliness, through periods where I felt either abandoned. Right. Sometimes, and I can tell you this by experience, we can entertain a lot of the enemy’s attacks a lot more than what we should.

And here’s what I mean by that. I had to learn in my life that sometimes people are going to be people, and I can’t control some of these people’s actions towards me, but I can control my reaction. Have you learned through all these experience at all, any way that you can react to them differently? Because one thing is for us to be hurt, right? And you’re hurt. I can sense it.

You have such a beautiful aspect of you, Shelley. I wish I could have been there in many instances to at least hold your hand, give you a hug, tell you that it’s going to be okay if someone’s saying something they shouldn’t have, say, stand in the gap, be like, yo, man, chill out. I wish I could be there, but I wasn’t. Right? But like me, and I’m using me as an example.

Do you think that we could be allowing some of these issues sometimes to hinder us from just going over that hump and saying, you know what? I was wounded, I was hurt, I was attacked. But just like with Joseph, right, with Joseph, when he went to a situation where in Genesis 50 20, where he says, but as for you, ye thought evil against me, but God meant it unto good to bring to pass at his this day to save much people alive.

And if you notice to Shelley in Genesis 42 seven, Joseph, when he saw his brethren, he knew them and made himself strange unto them and spake roughly unto them, right? So sometimes these wounds can sometimes capture us so much that, Shelly, I just don’t want you to see you make the same mistakes I’ve made. And this is just something I want to tell you. As your brother, as someone who loves you, your brother from another mother, I don’t want to see you make the same mistakes I’ve made.

I’ve wasted far too many years on wounds. And thinking of them, and thinking of them, and thinking of them, and thinking of them, and thinking of them, and they would go away, and they will come back, and thinking of them, and thinking of them, and thinking of them, and thinking of them. And that’s the crazy part, because many of these wounds, when you really look at them, it’s logical for you to be hurt.

But when I look at how precious you are, man. All right. As my sister and I say all that respectfully, I don’t like to see you hurt, and I don’t want to see you hurt. And I believe 2024 is a year, Shelley, where a lot of these wounds are going to be healed. And I just don’t want to see you being attacked by the enemy over and over and over and over again, even by us being our own worst.

Know, I would go to bed and I would have imaginary dreams of arguments with people. Have y’all ever had that. That you’re thinking about an issue so much that you’re having? You just had a whole. I had an argument with Ernest, Amy, Shannon, Shelly, Chris, Heidi. And you wake up in the morning and nothing happens. Nothing happens. But in my mind at nighttime, we were know. That’s how the enemy is.

He takes these wounds. You know why, Shelly? Because familiar spirits have studied you, Shelly. That’s why they’re familiar spirits. They know your childhood. They know the triggers, know everything, so they know what to send your way. And I just don’t want you, Shelly, to let that happen to coming. Everything that’s come from you so far, Shelly, has been that you’ve been hurt and that you’re worried about others who have been hurt and that they need to know that they’re not alone.

That lets me know that you’re a loving person. You love people. Have you ever considered using what you’ve gone through when it says that what the devil meant for bad, God’s going to use it for good? Have you ever considered using that to reach others? What do you think about. I have. I have a YouTube channel. It’s unfortunately my name instead of something that would be more glorifying to the Lord, but I didn’t know that it would turn into a ministry just like your channel.

You didn’t? Yeah. My YouTube channel is Shelly Jovella. And you just type in that on YouTube, you’ll find my channel. It’s where I try to share things that I go through so others don’t feel alone. And I share what God teaches me in the season. And you draw, right? You draw, right? You’re drawing? Yes, I’m learning to draw. I’m not very good at drawing. I’m more good at painting.

Okay. Can you bless us with a picture before you leave? Show them a picture. Yeah, show them a picture. Okay. There’s this one. There’s this one. It’s my favorite. Look, it’s not about being a victim. It’s about God empathizes and he cares. Like, you see, the lion is crying, and it’s know representative of the lion of Judah, which is Jesus. And he cares about us and he cares about our pain.

Like others may not understand, and they don’t care, and they can’t comfort you like the Lord can. But God cares, and he’s there like no one else can be. And it’s my favorite scripture, and it’s Jeremiah 31 25, King James version. And it says, for I have saturated the weary soul. And I have replenished every sorrowful soul. So every time we have sorrow and we’re sad and we’re so low down, you just cry.

Just cry. And he will comfort you, and he will replenish your sorrow. He’ll take it away, and he’ll fill you with his presence. But through all my suffering, God really taught me, just cry. Something the devil will try to do is shut people up when they’re crying, and they’ll give you a tissue and be like, don’t cry. It’s okay. But, no, it’s good to cry. Cry. Maybe not around people, maybe cover up or go somewhere.

Because people are often very insensitive, and that’s a very vulnerable, you know, you cry. Cry alone. When you’re alone with the Lord, he cares and he will comfort you. Shelly, I want you to know, online, people have been saying how beautiful your drawing is. They’ve been saying that it’s a beautiful drawing. And I want you to know. Shelley, listen, I wish I was there so I can talk to you about this virtual.

So it’s kind of, you know, the enemy. What he meant for bad, God’s going to use for good. Okay. I don’t know what hurts you’ve been through or what wounds you’ve gone through, but from now on, okay, once you know, you have a puerto rican brother here, okay, if you ever need anything, we got your back, all right? And what I want you to do this year, 2024.

And this is something that I’m challenging you and I’m challenging everyone who’s listening to this, okay? Is it’s not about ignoring what happened. What happened, happened in boxing. When I’m training in boxing, sometimes if we spar, I may take too many jabs. So the next time, I’m going to be focusing on covering up so I don’t take it anymore. Right. And then bobbing and weaving and doing what we got to do right in the spiritual realm is the same thing these familiar spirits will do in 2024, what we allow them to do in 2023, unless we decide, all of us, and this includes me, that I had to make those shifts.

I had to. And it’s changed my walk, and it’s going to change it even more because I have much more maturing to do. So please, Shelley, know that we got your back here and that we love you sharing your pictures. We love you sharing your testimony. And that if you ever feel at any point in time that you need someone to talk to, hit me up. All right, Shelly.

We love you. All right, you’re breaking up a little bit. You there. Love you, too. All right, my sister. Yeah. Awesome. Thank you, Sister Shelley. We have. Sister Victoria. Thank you, brother. You’re awesome. We have to. Sister Victoria, are you here? Victoria? God bless you, sister. All right, so church hurt. That is very interesting. Okay. I grew up in cash valley, Utah, where there’s Mormons everywhere. And so I’ve known nothing but church hurt for my entire life.

And it became woven into the fabric of who I am because I was never Mormon. And it was a place with Mormons where the Mormons founded the Mormon religion in Cash valley, Utah. And for an example, there’s 300 sq. Mi in the valley and there’s 300 and Mormon churches. So there’s a mormon church on every block. Well, I also had my grandmother. She was a retired presbyterian minister.

So I was born into what in the Mormon valley, they call anyone who’s not Mormon Christian, and Christians who call Mormons their Mormons and Christians are Christians. So in my childhood, I was born and raised a Christian. The Mormons also, they never use crosses. They don’t believe in crosses. They believe that Jesus took our sins in the garden of Gethsemane, apparently. Now, I just recently learned that Mormons in their religion, they kept us very quiet.

When I was a child, I didn’t know that in the Mormon religion, they are a work based theology that you do works to get yourself to different levels of heaven and eventually becoming God. So they work their way to all become God. It’s extremely blasphemous, a lot like the catholic church. Anyway, so I wanted to mention that because of this, I have always had an inclination to explore different religions and what those different aspects of the religions and what I’ve learned in a lot of the religions that I’ve learned about, and through reading the Bible, almost all the religions have something that contradicts to the word of God.

And so I wanted to remind everyone to bring things captive to the word of God. And last thing I wanted. Well, maybe not last thing I wanted to say, I’m a little bit nervous around people because I’m still okay. I also grew up in a family who was really rich and famous, and so I automatically got outcasted by a lot of people because I was never Mormon. And then even a lot of people that are so called Christians, they would treat me differently because I was born from a family that had a lot of money and were famous, even though that’s not something that I endorsed.

I actually was outcasting that family as well. So me getting online here and being a part of this is a healing experience for me in the sense that I have actually gone into a space of isolation where it’s just me and God, intimately, very intimately God. But I haven’t been out with people. Right. So anyway, that’s why I’m nervous right now. Anyway, so I wanted to say that Jesus Christ was crucified by religious people.

And so if best example could take us who to be and what to be and what to be like is to be like Jesus. Situations where religious people or the religious spirit, I like to say religious spirit because we do battle against principalities, not flesh and blood. So it’s important to give grace to our brothers and sisters and to everybody and to understand that it’s a principality that’s been around for a long time.

And that religious principality ended up being a principality that didn’t even know their own messiah, humanity, their messiah came. So I really notice and feel like we are still dealing with that this day. And the best example to take to be is Jesus and to know him and be intimate with him. Victoria, I just want to ask you a question real quick. Anytime I hear somebody say, being intimate with the Lord, I’m like, yeah, I want to hear more.

So tell me, is there something in particular that you think that you can point at for the rest of us that are on the same path of getting more intimate? That has helped you in your desire to do that? Can’t hear you, sister, and everyone else can too. But really, the most thing is partaking in sufferings and all the sufferings. And when you share in the sufferings that Christ suffered in, and you truly love the Lord, and you can get to know him on a level that for me, it’s constantly growing.

Definitely. You have to suffer like Christ suffered. That’s amazing. I heard something just a few days ago from someone else that when we’re in a situation, we feel like lashing out, but the Lord wants us to show mercy, that we are partaking in his suffering at that moment, and we can feel closer to him because we are enduring things that he endured. So that’s awesome that you said that.

I really appreciate that. Thank you, Sister Victoria. Say that again. You were muted. Anyone have any other questions for me? No. I’ll give you some feedback. That’s okay. And that is, I am so proud of you for coming out of all of that going through. When you go through the Mormon thing, that’s no joke. When you have Mormonism, when you talk about Mormonism, and you talk about Jehovah witnesses, and you have family ties and you have a lot of different things that really can sometimes really affect it even more.

A church breakup is bad enough, but when you have family ties, that makes it harder. Yet you didn’t allow that to hinder the fact that you wanted to continue to seek Jesus, Victoria. And just wanted to say that I’m proud of you for on keep on searching for someone local as well. But until then, you have us here. We’re here for you at any time, and we appreciate you giving us a shot.

I am going to be praying for you to find someone local as well that you can bless with that testimony, because it’s a lot that you’ve overcome coming out of all of that stuff. It’s insane how the enemy can hurt us through people. Right? I have a friend of mine. His name was. Well, I’m not going to mention his name, but he was a jdub. He was a hope, a witness.

And we became good friends at work. We worked at the call center. And his family found out that he was having lunch with me. And according to them, I’m an evangelical, and I’m going to hell. So they told him he had to stop being my friend. This is a grown man. Grown man talking about grown man of 30 something years old. And he had to obey, or else it was his mom, it was his wife, it was his family, it was all of them.

That’s where some of these things can get really ugly in terms of what happens. But I’m proud of you, Victoria. Thank you for taking the. I’m really, really grateful. You did awesome. Amy, you did awesome. Shelley, you did awesome. Proud of all of you all so much. First corinthians 13, have charity. It speaks for itself. That’s a great verse. Cut. I think what it is is that we may have to mute so that she can talk.

That’s what it is. Let me mute and then say that again, Victoria, because you were saying something. Say that again. Groups of people that are men, pleasers, and not pleasers of God. The perfect example, a really good scripture is an example of that, is one corinthians 13. Because a lot of those groups of people, they will have all these forms of godliness, but not have the charity or the grace that comes with it.

It’s hard for me to speak on it without feeling like I’m slandering them, if that makes sense. So I challenge them. But it is the truth. A lot of times, if they’re not being biblical and they’re not being pleasers of God and they’re being non pleasers, then it can apply to any group whether or not it’s under the label of Christianity. Well, I’m proud of you. I’m going to put you on mute for a moment so I can talk.

That way we can hear each other. I’m proud of you, Victoria. I just want you to know that I’m proud of you. And thank you for giving us a know. And that’s another thing very important here. I always tell you guys this, and we always say to each other, is, let’s never stop holding each other accountable. Okay? Never. Even for those that are watching this on rumble, if you’re watching this on Facebook, if you’re watching this on YouTube, never think that I’m above reproach.

That Chris and Heidi above reproach. Any of us is above reproach. No. We go through the same temptations that everyone else goes through. This is why we let God be true and every man be a liar. So if you ever see that at any point in time, we need to have a talk, pull us aside. Talk to us as well. I think that’s one of the main issues that sometimes causes hurt, that sometimes we leave things unchecked and untalked and there’s nothing wrong with having conversations and that we can hold each other accountable to.

So thank you, Victoria, for giving us a shot. Brother Chris, go for it. I just wanted to say to Victoria real quick, too, is know in these last days, the Lord is going to use a revival of loving him with all of our heart, mind, soul and strength, because many of us, especially in western culture, have turned away from that. And we don’t have that as the pinnacle of our reason for existence.

And so the things that you’ve experienced and the tenderness you feel in the presence of the Lord and his presence, being with you is going to be very valuable for you to share with others. So I just want to encourage you to get out there, sister, and do it because it’s super important. Ready to count? So I want to say, as we’re going to continue, we have about 1520 minutes left, right.

On these usual broadcasts, we have Roger Alexander that’s trying to come in. Now. For those of you that are trying to register on the website, we’ve been having a couple of issues with the registration. We’ll get that fixed up. I appreciate your patience. We’re all working with what we got, and it’s going to be resolved pretty soon. So for those of you that want to attend the zoom, a lot of you are writing in saying that you want to attend the zoom.

It’s just that we have it locked in the website because of the fact that we had a lot of bad people that started spamming us and sharing the link with crazy groups that started posting really weird. So I appreciate your patience and thank you for tuning in every Tuesday. Okay. Brother Lou, are you there? I know that you’re busy too, Brother Lou. Brother Lou has an awesome testimony of his mother and victory that he had there.

And I was hoping that he could maybe share it five or ten minutes to share that testimony of how healing came to that to his household. And I can tell you that healing is a beautiful thing. That’s why I’m so proud of the fact that all of us today, we’ve talked about church wounds, we’ve talked about mormonism, we’ve talked about being shunned at churches. We’ve talked about being kicked out at places.

But we’ve all brought it to what matters, which is healing. And there’s nothing wrong with saying that we’re hurt. We do have to take that to Jesus so he can heals us. And that’s why it’s good for us to talk about this. Brother Lou, you there? Can you hear me? Yes, my good. You’re good. You’re coming in, brother. So there’s a lot here that we can go over.

But what was coming to mind was what my mom and when I came to Lori was in 215 and I went to go live with my mother. And I’ll try to make it quick because I know we don’t. And when I to that house, I began to teach me about warfare. And I soon realized very that house, they were religious. My grandma grew up Catholic. My mom had a sense of God, but it wasn’t really with God.

And I began to really understand that there was something really wrong. And I asked the Lord to show me and my time there. To make a long story short, for the last seven years, my mom was having an affair in the house. Seven years. And you’re talking about a woman who would go to church, read her Bible every day and believe in God. And so when we think of church hurt, it’s not necessarily in a building or whatever the case may be.

We’re talking about people who are supposed to know God and they react and do these things. They go after the flesh. And my mom couldn’t believe it. Under her nose for seven years, her own mother was doing this to the point my mom really wanted to kill her own mother, and I had to walk her through that. We eventually moved out of that house and come to scripture, and I’m studying scripture, but I would ask.

My mom would come knock on the door, and it’d be that person that I’d have to minister, and I’d have to tell my mom, mom, want to forgive my mother. I want to kill her. I want you and me to go and go bust up that man and bust up everything that they have. And I said, mom, I can’t do that. The Lord has changed my heart. The Lord has changed my life.

And I’m telling you that you need to forgive and just fast forward. It’s been years. I know that healing takes. God did a work in my mother in the sense of mommy, then forgive her own mother and take care of her and love her and go to her house, and she has to see her ex husband with her mom being together, and she just loves on her. We go visit.

And so as we sum up this whole thing about church hurt and things like this, the biggest thing that I can tell you, forgiveness, it might not live as one of the fruits of the spirit, but I believe that it is part of the spirit. It’s a major part of the spirit as it was read in the scriptures today. As he’s forgiven us, let us forgive. And it helps you to be able to deal with every situation.

As God forgiven us, let us go and forgive. The thing that one of the scripture or not, the biggest thing, but a lot of the things that the scripture tells us is that the people knew that they were the disciples for the love that they had for one another. And so everything is fulfilled. The whole law is fulfilled with one word, love. And that’s what you’re going to have to do.

Now, we don’t have time, but there’s many times I go to a local church, many times I want to that local church. But the Lord spoke to me and said, all I want you to do is to learn to be offended, learn to walk through with people. Because as the sister said before, not every church is perfect. Not everyone is perfect. They’re not complete. They’re growing in the grace and all of those things.

And as God has shown us love, we have to reciprocate that. We have to give that out. That has to emanate out of us. That’s Christ living in us. And I just wanted to share a little piece of my mom’s story because I feel that my mom should be in the Bible with that story because she loves her mom and she takes care of her and she could have easily, like, there’s people who would never, how could you even.

I would never speak to her again. I hate her for the rest of my life. But see, it’s the love of God. And when the love of God is shed abroad on our hearts, we get to walk through the fire. We get walk through the hard things in life. And so, as tally knows, because we see each other on a daily basis face to face, we have to love people.

We have to love people. Do people hate on us? Do people say things? Yes. But we know that, you know what, we just have to love on them. The Bible says, love them. Love your enemies. Love. Love and you’ll fulfill the whole law. And I just wanted to share that little tidbit. That’s beautiful, brother. It’s beautiful. And I love you very much, man. Thank you for bearing with me as well.

You’ve been very awesome in my life and just want to let you know I love you, brother. Love you a bunch and thanks for who you are in Jesus, and I’m so proud of you of all of what God is doing. And thank you, my dear brother. We have Patrick. Roger. Roger came in here and he wouldn’t have registered on the website. He couldn’t. But he’s here. Brother, anything you wanted to share? Yeah.

Thank you guys for the invite. I kind of pushed the issue a little bit, but I wanted to make sure that I got here as soon as I could after work. So, yeah, there’s some issues with the links online. I’m sure other people are having the same issue, but the adversary ain’t going to stop me from getting on this zoom. So I’m good. I’m here. It’s a blessing, man.

And I appreciate you for going above and beyond, and I emailed you the link and you got on here. Has any of this message of forgiveness resonated with your spirit today? Yeah, everything. It’s actually right on point. Kind of the subject on the whole church of, you know, I recently had come out of a Southern Baptist church recently. I still believe that they’re all born again believers, truly, but we definitely were not in know I didn’t fit the mold.

I come from a little bit more of a rougher, harsh background, and it’s kind of your South Carolina white southern baptist, and I have my love for them and so forth. But I could just tell you my spirit resonates more with the frontline ministries. Be out there, the people that are out the abortion mills, people doing open air preaching, people doing ministry work for the homeless, for felons, the afflicted, as much as I love dealing with second, 3rd, 4th generation christians, a lot of times their sins a little bit more hidden and it’s a little bit harder for them to see through some of that self righteousness.

But I don’t hold any contempt on that. I actually found another church that actually is a lot more fitting for me. When we have time, I can open up on that as well, too. It’s good to hear, man. Good to hear. And know that every Tuesday we’re going to be live on here. And you’re welcome. Others are welcomed as well. I apologize for those that have tried to register and the website’s been giving those hiccups.

We’re going to get that fixed. And Roger, I totally get what you’re saying, you know what I mean? And you’re a fighter, too. I think you’re a so. All right. That’s awesome. That’s awesome. Look forward to getting to know you better. I’ll get you registered on the website, man. And it’s a know. And I also wanted to say to Shannon, good to see you. Know. It’s a blessing.

Sister Sarita. God bless you, Sister Sarita, Sister Lynette. Candice, brother Patrick and his wife out there in the couch. How you doing? God bless you, Patrick. Sister Michelle, mom of many, and of course, Chris. And know we’re a small group here on Zoom, but there’s a lot of people on YouTube right now that are also joining in from their homes. If you’re watching this from your home, the one thing that I encourage all of you is, if you can, is these Tuesday Bible studies or live gatherings or discussions.

As you can see, we’re just being vulnerable, very vulnerable. I’m just trying to share what we’ve gone through. You have your story. Don’t let it deter you. Right? Like in the story of Lou’s mother. If she would have let that situation deter, she wouldn’t be able to reach her. You know what I mean? So do not let the devil, what he intended to do, the attacks he intended to do, to fulfill themselves in your life.

Okay? It happened. It was regretful. We forgive, we move on. We remember Ephesians 612. We’ve wrestled not against flesh and blood, and we take all of these thoughts captive to the word of Jesus Christ. And sometimes that may mean you have to write these thoughts down. Write them down. Okay. Today I thought this. Today I thought that today I had this thing. Take them to the word of God.

Let God win. Let God win. And when he wins, I’m telling you right now, something awesome is going to happen. So if you have a child, if you have a wife, if you have a neighbor, if you can find the local assembly, I feel you. But don’t stop. Don’t stop, okay? Because something awesome happens when we come together and we fellowship. And there’s a lot of you right now that wish you could be on this zoom and you’re not.

I get it. We’re going to get the website registration thing fixed, okay? But at the same time, know that if you need anything, brother Natalia@gmail. com. We’re there to pray for you, to do whatever we got to do for you, okay? You’re not alone, brother. Chris and Heidi, anything you want to share? I just really appreciate how everyone’s been open and realize this, that as we sharpen one another, encourage one another, it not only is going to affect us in this realm, but it is spiritual warfare in the other realm.

And so we want to see the victory of the Lord and defeat of the. I just want to. I talked to Antonio Espanon. Is that how you say it? He’s usually here, but he said to pray for him. So I just want to add that to the prayer list and just thank everyone for all their input and willingness to grow together to be better. Service unto the Lord.

It’s awesome. That’s it, man. That’s it. That’s what it’s about. It’s amazing what happens when we forgive and how free it is. And sometimes the person that you encounter later on in life will look at you or encounter you later on, and they’re hoping that you haven’t forgiven them. But when they see that, you’re there, just like, hey, it is what it is. And you just keep on walking in.

Jesus Christ. That’s amazing. I’ve met so many people that I’ve seen after they’ve done some iisty stuff, man. It’s like, man, I just be laughing with them. Like, man, what are you thinking, bro? Are you crazy? Like, man, I can’t believe you did that. And we start laughing at it later on, and it’s like, listen, at the end of the day, right, when you start looking at anything that anyone has done to you, do some self examining and see how many times you’ve done that or worse, to Jesus, either by seeing something we shouldn’t have seen.

How many times have we not cheated on him? How many times have we not backbited. How many times have we not complained on him? Has he not been blessing? He’s blessed us with. So we sometimes get upset when a friend or a family member that we’ve had that we’ve done so much for and they do something bad. And how many times have we not done the same to the heavenly Father? And when you do that, it does bring clarity to the situation that if he can have grace on us, we have to.

At the very least, that doesn’t mean it’s going to be the easiest ever. But Jesus wept when he went to the tomb, right? So he knows what we go through. But just remember that if he can forgive us and have patience with our knuckleheads, then we have to, at the very least, while we’re healing, while we’re trying to get right with what we have to get right, we have to make sure we walk in him.

Let’s go ahead and pray. As we’re going to pray and we’re going to unclose everything, you’re going to see me with my eyes open. It’s not out of disrespect to God. It’s just there are so many prayer requests that I don’t want to be disrespectful and not at least read them. Okay? So it’s not that I don’t have reverence to God, it’s just I don’t have a memory that’s capable of doing all of that.

But let’s go ahead and pray in Jesus name. All right. Heavenly Father, we want to thank you for your dear son. Thank you for salvation. Thank you for allowing us today to come together and talk about forgiveness. Heavenly Father, there are people around the world tuning in tonight from different parts of the world. And you know, whether they’ve encountered physical abuse, traumas, church abuse, whatever it is, you know what the enemy tried to do to them, to destroy them and to destroy their walk.

Heavenly Father, may they leave this broadcast refreshed understanding that today they’ve heard testimonies from people from all different walks of life and they’ve all shared the same thing, that it hurt, that it was hurtful, that there were tears, that there were fears, but that when they trusted in God through all of those things, there was also healing and there was also deliverance. Heavenly Father, may we not allow the enemy to take real estate in our minds.

You have given us sound minds. You have not given us a spirit of fear. And there is no temptation that overtakes us. That is not common to man. But the best part about it is that you provide a way of escape. So when the temptation to focus too much on wounds, listen, it’s normal. It’s part of the healing process. But there comes a point in time that we must also say, you know what? God forgave me of this that I did to him.

I have to forgive and move on. You no longer have real estate in my mind, devil. I serve a king that has already delivered me. He has already made me a brand new creature. I’m from a different kingdom. I am not from this world. And we wrestle not against flesh and blood. God, you are awesome. There are people that need healing that are watching this, that we’re praying right now.

Heavenly Father, touch their hearts. You have compassion. You have compassion. That’s the beautiful part about you. You have compassion. Let them feel that compassion in the name of Jesus and take this year to move forward. Healed in the name of Jesus. Moving forward. The name of Jesus. Heavenly Father, there are people that posted prayer requests. We have Ginger. Ginger’s mother passed away today. Heavenly Father, help Ginger. You know that Ginger is going through so many health ailments herself that her being able to attend the funeral is not a possibility.

Help her. Help Cherie with her husband. What an awesome thing that a wife is asking for prayers for her husband. Protect Cherie and help Cherie help Jennifer who has health issues. Sister deliciousness has an issue that she has trauma from 20 years in the JW cult. Tina with finances. Sister CM going through issues with her family. Her daughter needs prayers in the name of Jesus. We have Jacqueline.

Her daughter needs prayer as well. We have Ty who is employment and family issues. Midwest posted a comment that their family is going through addictions and situations. If you notice family, every one of us is going through something. Even that person that you may see that has that smile. Quite often people look at me, they think I’m always happy. They don’t think that I’m going through a single thing.

I’m going through a lot of things. I’m just pretty good at understanding one thing. And this has only come through many years of battle. And that is that the one that I serve, he’s been with me at the lowest of lows and he’s been with me at the highest of highs. Whether I’ve eaten romaine noodles or I went to Longhorn and ate some of that parmesan chicken crust chicken, which is so good.

He’s been with me through them all. So no matter what comes our way, no matter what comes our way, don’t take it personal. He wants you to take it personal. He wants you to get angry at that wife, at that pastor, at that church. He wants you to get angry. He wants you to get angry at everything except him. Take it to the word of God. Jesus loves you.

In the name of Jesus, amen. I love all of you very much. You guys are so awesome. Again, I say this, and I’ve said it multiple times. I’m nothing more than your brother from another mother, and I am no better than any of you. Please always hold me accountable. I am new at this. This is an experience for me. I’m not experienced at any of this stuff. I’m trying to get used to it.

So know that. I’m glad that you’re making it to these Tuesdays, whether on YouTube, rumble, Facebook, or here on Zoom, on the. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else has anything to say? I love you guys. Y’all good? Okay. Well, it’s a blessing to see all of y’all. Okay? It’s a blessing to see all of y’all. And, sarita, thank you, sis, for coming. I know that you had to go to work and everything.

Like, have. I don’t want to leave without knowing if you have something to bring forward today. Well, actually, I just want to say I was very blessed with Chris and Heidi’s little message that they gave in their discipleship course. And it made me cry because I was so blessed, because when they said that they will do our best to not misrepresent, misquote or mislead scripture in any way.

And if this ever does happen, please feel free to point out our errors, and we will investigate the word together to come to the proper conclusion. That’s exactly how I’ve been hurt in the church is trying to question and ask. Well, I don’t understand this. The Bible doesn’t seem to say this. Where do you find this? Can you show me? And I don’t know if it’s just their pride or what, but they don’t want to be told that what they’re teaching is wrong.

And I just am looking so forward to the discipleship class. And just thank you very much for the encouragement, even just in your little note here. That’s awesome, Sarita, we love you very much, sister. And we do believe that God has something to share with us via you next week. Next Tuesday. Do you think that your shift aligns with you being able to share something next week? Yeah, I think it does.

All right, let’s do it. Let’s do it. I look forward to doing that and just want, you know, I’m really grateful for you, Sarita. Keep on being strong, all right? And the discipleship classes are happening on Saturday, fam, at ten in the morning. So we’re a small group on the website and I know that’s probably also because the registration is having issues, but we’ll get there. And the important thing is, is that eastern standard time.

It’s eastern standard time. Okay. Yeah, but this is just a trial, a test. We’ll pick different times as God allows. We’re just getting started, so any ideas and suggestions, know that I appreciate. You guys are so awesome so far. It’s been a joy to have the community on and doing these lives. So I appreciate it. And Sister Michelle, you be encouraged. Okay, sis, too. Okay. I just want to say, everybody’s a gift.

Everybody’s a blessing. We all have these beautiful gifts and they’re really a blessing. Know that you are a blessing in the body of Christ to other people and the things that you’ve gone through. God will use it together for the good of those that love him, that are called according to his purpose and don’t be shy and just try to be bold and God will give you the boldness.

And in the future, fellowships open up and share because you were made with a purpose and you were made with a plan and everything the devil used to try to tear you down, God is going to use for the good and all. Know this. We are so blessed to be in the body of. Like, this is tally. Like you’re putting this on your YouTube channel and thousands of people are seeing it.

So it’s like an opportunity for you to be used by God, which is just amazing and he’ll use you in powerful ways if you just open up and share. Hey, we love you, Shelly. We love you. Thank you for those words. It’s a blessing and thank you for being here. And Sister Michelle, how are you holding up? You doing good? Sorry to put you on the spot. You all right? How are you holding up? I’m good.

It’s back to work. Just pray because I really need to get and find a church here where I live. We can probably speak about another time, why I haven’t been actively attending one. But I do know I need to get back to a good biblical, solid church. So I’ve been kind of holding off and I’m like being part of this ministry, it’s been blessing me, but I also do need that local.

You have to mean. I am going to one, but I’m not involved and I just don’t think that’s the place for me to be. But yeah, we’ll be praying for you in Jesus name, sis. I appreciate you taking the time, all of you taking the time to be here. Mom of Christina, Sister Candice. You know, I got a lot of appreciation for you, Sis, sister Lynette, Shannon, all of you.

Thank you guys for being here. Someone posted a comment that’s pretty funny. To end this off, he said he feels like his gift is anxiety. So he’s know sometimes we go through stuff family. It’s nothing more better to be. This is what I like about this, that we’re being vulnerable with each know we’re being vulnerable with each other. And like Sarita said, if we can be transparent with each other and honest each other enough to say, hey, brother tally, I don’t agree with you.

Let’s go to the scriptures. How much more better would we not be as a body of Jesus Christ if we did not get offended when people would say about and most of these things like she’s mentioned and we’ve all mentioned is all about offenses. What do you mean talking to me? I’m your pastor. No, come down. Let’s just go to the word of God and it’s not that hard.

It’s probably five or six verses. Let’s go to lunch and let’s talk about it. And that is the most beautiful thing that we can do as a body of Jesus Christ. So moving in 2024, remember when you have that itch to get easily offended or get really mad and want to throw your fist up. Calm down. Breathe for a moment. Relax. Calm down. It’s going to be all right.

It’s going to be all right. We’re going to be all right. And you take it to the word of God. Calm down. Everything’s going to work out. All right. I love you guys a lot. All right, we’re going to cut it because we’ve been here for 2 hours. But those that have been on YouTube, thank you for tuning in yet again. And thank you for sharing the content.

It thank you for sharing the videos. Thank you for everything. All right, fam. I love you guys very much. All right. God bless. You guys are awesome. Bye. .