➡ The text discusses the connection between the spiritualist movement and the story of ‘A Christmas Carol’. It suggests that the story, written in 1843, was a precursor to the spiritualist wave that followed the Civil War. The text also explores the idea that the ghosts in the story are not harmful but rather guides, similar to the spiritualist belief of consulting spirits. Lastly, it discusses the idea that the story’s events are real for Scrooge, not just metaphors or reenactments.
➡ The text discusses the character of Scrooge from a different perspective, suggesting he may not be as bad as he’s often portrayed. It argues that Scrooge’s dislike for Christmas and his harsh attitude towards the poor could be seen as a critique of societal hypocrisy and inconsistency. The text also touches on different Christmas traditions around the world, such as working on Christmas day in Japan and eating KFC instead of traditional Christmas meals. Lastly, it explores the idea of personalizing movies and the potential impact of this on our understanding of stories like A Christmas Carol.
➡ The text discusses how personalization of media and experiences, like movies or holidays, could lead to a loss of shared cultural references. It also explores the idea of AI creating content, such as movie adaptations or reviews, and how this might affect our perception of quality and authenticity. The author questions whether this individualized programming is beneficial or if it’s better to have shared experiences, even if we don’t control them.
➡ The text discusses a movie where the main character, Scrooge, is visited by three ghosts from different eras. The first ghost is from the Victorian era, the second is a pagan from ancient history, and the third predates human culture. The ghosts show Scrooge visions that make him reflect on his life, especially his focus on money and business at the expense of human interaction. The text questions whether Scrooge’s actions were truly bad and if his last-minute change, prompted by the knowledge of his impending death, balances out his past behavior.
➡ The text discusses the evolution of Christmas and its various interpretations, comparing it to the story of Scrooge who changes his life after being visited by ghosts. It also talks about the shift in the celebration of New Year’s from April to January in Japan, and how holidays have been consolidated for convenience. The text also mentions the concept of ‘decreasing the surplus population’, hinting at a mindset similar to eugenics even before the term was coined.
➡ The text discusses the concept of eugenics and its presence in literature, specifically in ‘A Christmas Carol’. It suggests that the idea of eugenics predates its official definition by Francis Galton in 1883, and is represented in the character of Ebenezer Scrooge. The text also explores the symbolism in the story, such as the ghost of Jacob and the candle flame, and their possible connections to Rosicrucianism and masonry. Lastly, it discusses the role of chimney sweeps in Victorian times, their representation in literature, and their link to luck and survival.
➡ The text discusses a man who breaks off his engagement with a woman he perceives as perfect because he feels he doesn’t match up to her. This decision turns him into a cold, Scrooge-like figure. The text also mentions various interpretations of the man in the moon, including one where it represents punishment for working on the Sabbath. Lastly, it talks about a scene from A Christmas Carol where the Ghost of Christmas Present reveals two children, Ignorance and Want, warning of their danger.
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Yeah, I’m just, I guess I’m just talking about when it was kind of on the forefront of culture sort of thing, because I feel like a victor, a well to do Victorian English person might just kind of dabble in it for funsies because it was, you know, trendy at the time. Well, if, if we laser focus that to spiritualism and the whole like spiritualist movement, this is pretty much a snapshot in time of all that, because the whole premise here is not too much different than conjuring some spirits or breaking out your Ouija board or it’s, it’s that same sort of air.

And I think this is directly on the heels of the Civil War in, in the U.S. right. That’s a little before. That’s, that’s why I’m bringing it up, the spiritualism movement. So there’s a direct thread between what gets established in the Christmas Carol, followed by the Civil War, followed by basically the absolute peak of spiritualists. Because I think that like, even like the, the discovery of a whole bunch of turn of the century inventions were all based on that same spiritualism. That’s kind of exemplified in how this entire movie is put together. That’s, that’s what I was thinking.

And then I was reading up on the book itself and it’s like 1843. I assume that it was written like the 1860s or 70s because of what you just said. And then I’m looking at 1843. I’m like, that seems kind of early. Well, think about it this way though, because like William Crooks, right, William Crooks was one of the spiritualists of, of like the technology movement in Great Britain. And I believe that he was in his 30s or 40s when he invents the cathode ray tube. And he’s, he’s a spiritualist like Die Hard at this point.

But he probably had those inclinations growing up, because if he’s in his 40s, dabbling in technology and linking it to like the actual spiritualist movement, that gets seeded as a kid. So like the Christmas Carol comes out and William Crooks is basically a young child that influences the same exact thing for like Alexander Graham Bell, I think was somewhat contemporary to all this. That’s kind of where I’m getting. I, I guess I thought this was a shaker, not a mover, but in 1843, this is totally a mover. It’s a seed, like you just said. This is kind of one of the first blasts of, you know, like it’s kind of a similar work of the spiritualist movement of the latter half of the 19th century.

And I didn’t kind of realize that till I looked at the date. Like, Dickens was kind of ahead of the curve. Well, because. Because this one is not just an abstract haunting, and it’s not necessarily ghosts that are coming to hurt you. They’re ghosts that are guiding you, and they’re. They’re almost seen as that this is what he needed to hear. There’s almost a therapeutic or like a cathartic version of these ghosts that makes them like good entities. And I think that this kind of lines up with that spiritualist wave. It’s. It’s not that Scrooge is sitting down and conjuring these spirits up directly, but there’s some aspect, like a.

Like a shadow version of him realizes that this is what he needs. So this is where the spirit world can interact and sort of guide and give information. And I think that’s sort of one of those key components of the spiritualist movement is they’re not just these weird fly by night wind demons that, you know, might impregnate your wife as they, like, pass over your house, but now they actually are living in the same relative time period as you, and you can consult with them. I mean, I guess there’s nothing new under the sun. Like, even old Greek necromancy was essentially the same aspect, but I think their version of ghosts were less Victorian, floaty, glowy, and more like conjuring their.

Their literal physical body back out of the grave. The other one that came to mind, but I haven’t. I haven’t heard a good rundown of this for three years. I’m a little hazy. Maybe. Maybe you’re a little better on it, but the. The temple initiation for. For Masons is. Isn’t there like a fake death or something in there? And being guided by a few, you know. Are you following what I’m saying? No ghosts, though. No ghosts. But there’s no ghosts. But they’re like. Was it the. Sorry, I’m like, totally sputtering. But I was like, just in the back of my head, I was like, is there a connection here? And maybe I’m off on that, but I was definitely thinking that one is more of like.

Like a Disney proxy experience. That one is sending you through a distinct role play to where you dying and are reborn. Like, so there’s a very specific aspect of that, but it’s. It’s way less to do with ghosts and hauntings and like, Victorian spiritualism by any of that nature. Yeah, I Guess I’m just thinking of being shown certain truths, and then Scrooge does get thrown into the grave at the end. So to me, that was sort of like a you die and then he’s reborn and becomes, you know, Christmas fun boy. Well, I. I guess, except for in all the secret mystery schools, maybe.

Except the Elusinian mysteries, where you were just tripping on Kaikyon, whatever the hell that was in Soma, where. Where maybe there really was a line completely blurred between real and fantasy. But I think in nearly every other secret society, Skull and Bones and even, you know, all the big ones, you still realize it’s all pageantry. You know, you still realize that this is just a recreation and, like, a metaphor. And you almost have to trick yourself into, like, okay, there’s something practical here. But with the Chris A Christmas Carol, I think it’s the exact opposite of that.

I think that whatever they’re showing Scrooge is real. It’s his real past. It’s not a reenactment of it. It’s his real future. It’s the real present. And they even emphasize that because during his Thorin ride, where they get to see how everyone is, like, toasting and saluting him. And I guess the most, like, less real, the least realistic part this entire movie is that the nephew and Cratchit that. That works for him. When we see them, like, spying on these guys, modern day, they’re still like, hey, he’s not that bad. Or like, whatever you think of them, we’re still toasting to him.

It’s still Christmas. Like, they’re just absolutely altruistic to a fault. Right? But I think that even when we go and we see all those. Those different angles play out, they’re showing you the actual present. Because then you see that when he goes and buys the goo or buys the turkey, and when he goes and, like, bursts into the room, they’re telling the exact same joke that they were. Like, it’s a pantomime game. They were doing the exact same one that he had already seen in his vision. So it kind of proves that this was the real present and the real future and the real past.

But that does mean the ghost of Christmas Present is actually the ghost of slightly, like, 15 minutes in the future. Maybe there is a reason why Zemeckis is on this, because he did create, like, the seminal time travel movie. And what is this other than just the Victorian version of Back to the Future? Yeah, yeah. Except he doesn’t do weird stuff with his mom in this One. Well, we don’t know that. I mean, this was the Disney cut. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, here’s something that I seem to remember in other versions. And maybe I’m just thinking of Scrooged again, but.

And this one is just whiplash. One goes to the next. And they even explained, like, you’ll meet one at this time. And. And then, like, didn’t they say the next day? But he just kind of goes straight to the next coast. I guess he’s been hanging out with the first one all day, is the idea. Good question. But I always thought that this all took place over the course of one night. There was no, like. So then when they’re saying next day, I’m kind of like. And then I’m like, isn’t there, like, a little bit of downtime? But that might be Scrooged.

I feel like he has a few, like, weird, normal experiences between the ghosts and Scrooged, which. And I can’t remember if that’s the case in the book or if that was actually them just trimming a little bit in this for time or whatever. Right. And was there a scene in the original Dickens version where they staple antlers to a mouse? Right. Was it a rat? Maybe you’d use rope at that time in 1843. Do they have staplers? And I feel like that would be a more modern invention. Yeah, you need a little mass production to make all those staples, either.

So. Yeah. The Ghost of Christmas Past is basically Lumiere. Uncanny valley. Lumiere from Beauty and the Beast, I guess. And, of course, that brings us back to our light bringer stuff. I suppose there was. There’s another. I think one of the cooler aspects of Scrooge in general. I don’t know if you’ve ever seen any of these, like, Scrooge was the good guy theories before. Not wildly popular because he does hate Christmas and he hates everyone about it. But he kind of represents this grumpy old man that thinks that everybody are a bunch of idiots and that.

And that really what he hates is poverty. And there’s. There’s. There’s some, like, deeper breakdowns that I can. I can get into with some notes. But he essentially hates poverty so much, and then he sees other people that, in his mind, are causing their own poverty and that they could technically lift themselves out because they’re, you know, they’re British and that. I think that same eugenicist angle of Tarzan is still at play here because he even mentions something about the world population sorting itself out when they come asking for food and money and for charity over Christmas.

He’s kind of like, you know, this is for the world population. Like, that’ll just kind of solve itself. So clearly he’s a eugenicist, even though this technically predates the term eugenics by about 50 years or so. But that doesn’t mean that that wasn’t always, like, this inherent sort of point of view that that existed before it even had a name. So I think that. That aspect. But he’s sort of, like, proven right as the. The movie plays out. Not that that means he’s a good guy or anything, but that it’s about, you know, these families. And he’s asking, you know, why should I pay you for a full day’s wages and you don’t come in the work? Like, what if.

What if the roles were reversed? What if you came in the work and I didn’t pay you a day’s wages and I’m just like, oh, that’s what we do on Christmas. You know, Christmas, everyone. One person gets screwed out of the deal. He’s making incredibly valid points that are really hard to dismiss other than, but it’s Christmas. Like, if you just assume. But it’s Christmas is the explanation for everything. They even make a really big point in the middle of the movie that this is the one day that men open up their cold hearts and they set aside their differences and they help each other out.

And there’s almost something nefarious about that, too. Like, I. I could sympathize with Scrooge if Scrooge is mad at the world because it’s like, you idiots, why do you only do this on one day? Why are you so inconsistent? Like, that doesn’t make any sense at all. So I don’t know. I’m not trying to sympathize with Scrooge. I’m just trying to sort of like, you know, step in his shoes a little bit. I guess that subset of people that are like, Scrooge is a hero probably read Atlas Shrugged right before reading A Christmas Carol, right? Yeah.

This guy knows. This guy knows what’s up. You know, I mean, yeah, he sort of is like an Atlas Shrug. Victorian Atlas Shrugged. Yeah. Yeah. So, hey, and, you know, it is a cultural thing. This is a American, British thing, Right? Like, let me tell you, my work week next week. I’m. We’re. I have an extra day of work next week. I’m working from December 23rd to the 28th. Every day is a work day. They’re an hour Longer I come in earlier and on Christmas day and the next day my, I’m so busy that I have two 30 minute lunches instead of one hour lunch.

So that’s my Christmas. Yeah. Is, is there I guess like no respect for this western Christmas tradition? It’s Halloween here. Here are the things that people do in Japan for Christmas. Kentucky fried chicken about 30 years ago ran an ad campaign so good that everyone buys fried chicken. Even here. We’ll probably have it, although we get it from the supermarket because we hate. All right, this is, this is like the, the diamond salesman that linked it with, you know, engagements or whatever. Right, right. And chocolate cake, which I don’t think is an American thing. I feel like we do cookies for Christmas.

But yeah, when I tell my students like the fried chicken is just a Japanese thing and like they’re, they’re shatters their brains. They just like Christmas is chicken. Presents are pretty much till junior high school. After that you don’t get presents so. Well. And speaking of surprising Christmas poultry. And this isn’t good as time as any to bring this up, but I didn’t realize until watching this and then going back and referencing it in the book. But they make this point that oh, maybe one year the children will be able to taste, you know, turkey for Christmas instead of this, you know, this nasty goose.

But I mean 2024, if I wanted to eat goose, it would probably cost a lot more money than it would turkey. So I guess goose was for poor people and turkey was for more, you know, more well off people on Christmas. And that was the original poultry. So you know, Japan, maybe they’re just the next evolution that they’ve surpassed goose and turkey and now they’re just on kfc, which I do think is an upgrade. Okay, maybe I, I was always. I wanted the honey baked ham for Christmas. Turkey’s too dry. Me too. A hundred percent, man.

I was like, we already did the turkey for Thanksgiving. Although we don’t do turkey in Japan. There’s no turkey in Japan to speak of. I mean you can find if you really look for it. But yeah, they only know what Thanksgiving is. New Year’s is actually the big holiday in Japan so that people every, everyone does have the day off for New Year. Right? Is, would, wouldn’t duck be more traditional for where, I don’t know. I just assume Asia in general that they ate there was more duck used than turkey. Okay, I thought we were talking about Christmas traditions.

But, but no, I mean duck, they’re right behind you. Ah, no, but the Big one here is New Year’s. That’s when everyone does have the day off. They started opening stores on New Year’s like 10 years ago. And that was like. So now I guess somebody works on New Year’s, but before that the stores were closed, all that sort of. So that’s, that’s the big one here. Well then how do you know when it’s time to open your cold heart towards the rest of man? You gotta do it every day, right? That’s, that’s like Scrooge says, maybe you are starting to paint him out as a hero.

You know who I would have. Why didn’t they put Rupert Murdoch in this movie? That would have been fun. Because Disney and bought Fox yet, that’s why. See, you know, regardless of your thoughts on how soon AI is going to kill us all, but we will be able to have, I think in our lifetimes where we can put on Christmas Carol and be like, now make Rupert Murdoch do all the voices and just watch it. And it’ll. It’ll do the thing. Like, I think technically we could have that now. There’s just no financial incentive for all of the people that need to put the things in the right order and press the buttons to, to.

To do that. But like the, the technology is here at this exact moment. We can do it. Yes. Yes. You can make the most disturbing movies you want. Well, everyone will get to personalize their movies, right, at some point, which I don’t know if that’s good or bad, but who do you want here? It’ll be like, you know, Mortal Kombat. Here’s 15 characters. Choose the ones you want for this particular. Well, it, it just means that we’re going to be able to choose our own programming, not. You won’t be able to program it yourself. You’re still going to have to pick from, like, the versions that will just sell you the different variants of the, the Happy Meal toys.

But you will have this semblance of choice. But here, I guess, here’s the, the, the one word of wisdom from an absolute conspiracy theorist. You know, paranoid. A lot of the times people turn to conspiracy theories and become ultimate skeptics because they’re actually the most optimistic amongst people. Or at least they started out so optimistic, almost like a naive level of optimism, that when that optimism gets crushed, they sort of retreat and do the exact opposite. It’s a very reactionary kind of approach to the world. But that’s, that’s sort of me too. Like, I thought the Guess who pieces talked and it shattered my world when I found out that they didn’t.

But I, I absolutely think that this is one of those examples that I don’t know, I think it can have the potential to completely change everybody’s perspective on, you know, the entire aspect of Christmas. Like Christmas is the ultimate sort of mind control breaker. And if you could program your own version of these stories now, I mean, is it a good thing that you’re breaking free of generational programming where like, like you cannot escape the programming of Christmas if you live in the States, right? Like even if you don’t want to celebrate it and you don’t believe in it, you know what all the symbolism is and all of the street signs and everything, you’ll hear the music, like you will be programmed by it.

And that’s kind of the same thing that we all share this common programming so that when someone says, you know, Merry Christmas or whatever, like, you know the response. So, you know, you kind of fit in. But imagine the reality when and everyone doesn’t agree on what Christmas is anymore because it’s all been like so custom tailored. Like your version of Christmas is, you know, Honey Baked Ham and Die Hard and my version of Christmas is, you know, something completely different and you no longer share that same thing. I mean, this is on a much wider scale.

I guess a smaller scale would be me and you meet at the water cooler and I’m like, hey, did you see that new, whatever that, the new movie that just came out. But like my version was Arnold Schwarzenegger and your version was, you know, a completely different actor. Like, like we won’t have that same semblance. We won’t be able to say, hey, just see the, the. I mean, maybe sports, sports might be the last remaining bastion where two people can be like, hey, did you see that game last night? Yeah, so and so threw the touchdown or whatever.

But when we’re talking about tv, movie, music, video games, like me and you don’t have the exact same reference that we can even use. And my of torn mind on if that’s a good thing or a bad thing. Is it good you get to cater your own programming, or is it better that we all share the same programming even if we don’t have any control over it? Well, I don’t know. It’s 10 years in the future, you walk in your friend’s living room. You didn’t knock. You probably should have, but you did knock. He’s watching a porno where he’s put his face on the faces of all the women in the porno that’s gonna happen.

I mean, it’s also very possible right now in 2024. You don’t have to wait 10 years for that. Again, it’s just a concept of scale now. And like. Like we were saying, maybe you’ve got the version of Rupert Murdoch that did this movie, but also, what if my version is, you know, all Muppets like I want? And you can do that right now. You can render an existing video and say, you know, turn everyone into Muppets. Make everyone, you know, like making a golden girl in a bikini or whatever. Like, you could do all of those things and see your own version of that so that what is actually left? There’s like a weird Ship of Theseus analogy buried in there somewhere.

Because I could also be like, okay, keep ex. Everything that we just saw on Christmas Carol with Jim Carrey and uncanny valley and everything, but make this an Easter Bunny movie or make this a whatever movie. That’s the level we’re not quite at yet. But the pieces would be there. But if. But if we all did that enough, it’s like, do we even watch the exact same movie? Do mean you have any frame of reference to, like, share observations about something once it’s been custom tailored to each of us? Like. Like there’s no more control, I guess.

Well, think of how many translations there are of the Bible. So whatever you read probably wasn’t the one somebody else read. Imagine too, that in the near future that everyone has their own translation of the Bible. It’s like, well, what gave that guy? What gave King James any right to interpret, you know, this passage to mean this? When it gets translated. Here’s my version of it. Like, there’s going to be the Matt’s Bible and the Paranoid Americans Bible and the Everyone’s Bible. I think, please add 30% sci fi and 40% humor to my Bible. Right. Like the what? The interstellar.

Rewrite this. But Stanley Kubrick. Yeah, it’s like the Interstellar where he’s talking to the AI on the ship. He’s like, could you turn down your sarcasm 40%, please? That sort of thing. But yeah, yeah, maybe. Maybe you can do that in the future. Well, now, I guess to a certain extent. The thing is now you’re basically just getting reconstituted pieces. And to do what you’re talking about, I think there would have to be some kind of actual creation, which I guess is where AI isn’t quite there. Right? Well, look at this movie. Look at. Look at a Christmas Carol, where they 3D rendered all these different characters and they took the actual, like a very direct adaptation of the book.

So you could feasibly do everything that this movie did using complete, you know, AI. The only difference is that that final step where you compose it all together and you take the 3Ds and you render it and you, like, do all the voice acting on top, all of those things individually can kind of be done. It’s just that the amount of effort to put that together, I’m sure is already being undertaken by all of these companies. Like, that’s. That’s exactly where it’s all headed. But the only difference is that they’re making it so that their ultimate prompter will still be as a mechus.

It’ll still be an Eisner. It’ll. It’ll be a somebody that gets to type in what they prefer it to be. But once that scales to where anyone’s got, like, they’ll probably just have a new DVD player or something that comes out, which I’m already date. I think I’m dating myself to even say like a DVD player versus a Blu Ray or whatever the, you know, holograph player that they’re going to come out with next. But that, that version will just have the certain capabilities. Do you want to change the voices of everyone or do you want to change the visuals? Like, that’ll be the next step, I think, directly.

And this, this movie is. That’s exactly what they did. They repurposed something all completely digitally. I mean, even the audio at a certain extent was likely recorded and, and enhanced all digitally. So they just had the actual budget to put all that stuff together. It would, it would be the same concept of IBM installing a huge mainframe in a big office building that takes like two entire floors versus something that just fits in your pocket, you know, roughly 50 or 60 years later. So I hope, I don’t think it’s going to take that much longer because I do think it’ll be in our lifetimes.

But it’ll probably be a couple decades until the technology is so advanced that it would be insignificant to stitch all those pieces together like it would right now. I mean, sometimes I wonder watching new movies, I’m like, how much of this is actually written by AI? And they’re just like, not telling me. You know, like, the last five Marvel movies certainly felt that way. I mean, I think that’ll be the very real reality for us. And there’s, right now, there is an uncanny valley aspect of that too. Where there’s telltale signs. And once you see enough of those telltale signs, even if you don’t know what you’re looking for, it’ll.

It’ll sort of dawn on you. But also, look at what we’re comparing it to, right? If you’re comparing the quality of AI to say like an average newspaper article or an average magazine article or something, all of that media that we’ve already been trained to sort of ingest now is already sort of dumbed down and oversimplified so that the, the bar is much lower. You know, it’s no longer the same visual uncanny valley where the computer is competing with what nature or what God has produced. Now it’s just competing with what we’ve. We can produce, like our artwork and our writing and our music.

And everyone is absolutely astonished at like, wow, it’s so good at all this. It’s like, yeah, it’s, it’s more of that. We’re getting knocked down a few pegs. Like we thought that we were so far advanced that we’re writing, you know, these absolute treasure troves, but really AI can kind of knock it out of the park too. Although my, My radar has been the strongest for looking at like music gear reviews, like in the looking up guitar synthesizer reviews, in the past two years, I’ve noticed so many more. Like, I’m looking for a review. Click. This isn’t a real review.

This is AI, you know, and honestly, it doesn’t matter for most people because if you think about it, it probably started with real reviews because it was very niche, right? And you would actually develop a following. The people trusted your particular review. But over time, reviews become whoever the publisher is. Hey, stuff more keywords in there. Hey, you know, throw more like names of all these different sort of like trademark phrases and things that’ll. That’ll get it better search results and ranked higher. And then at a certain point there’s like a flipping that happens where now it’s the keywords that drive the article and making it SEO friendly versus the article that, you know, you just try and like get indexed more.

I don’t. It’s. It’s just a new reality. So I, again, I think that there’s less competition anyway. We should probably move along to that. That Ghost of Christmas Present because that, that’s a standout here where we get, you know, Fat Jesus Bacchus. That’s some fun stuff, yo. So he’s literally tripping and showing you visions and the whole room shakes, right? The, the rug Starts to talk to you. This is all what actually happens in this movie, right? Yeah, yeah, that. That’s where this spiritualism part spiritualist part, we’re getting the ghosts, we’re getting the mind bending stuff, which, you know, like we said, the mystery schools is more of just a.

A pageant. So this is kind of like where things get real, which I guess is always kind of the case because wallowing in the past, how much does that do? All that does is make regret. So. Well, ironically, the way that they portray it is. Is sort of working like. It’s like a chronological inversion. For example, the very first ghost we see, the. He’s basically this Victorian ghost, like a green sort of Ghostbusters ghost. The very first one, and that’s 1880 spiritualism. But then the next one, which is Ghost of Christmas Present, when we see him, he’s more of like a pagan.

He’s way older than Victorian era. You know, he’s. He’s like ancient history sort of era. And then when we go to the final ghost, that’s like the most OG archetypical ghost you can imagine. That almost seems like it predates human writing or culture altogether. So even though they’re sort of progressing in his life, it goes from old, current, new. The actual gods that are portraying these different aspects are not. They’re. They’re actually newest gold to like the. The ancient ghost all the way to the most ancient. So the Ghost of Christmas Future does. Here’s the thing, it does seem to have sort of like the, the Chernobog role here.

Like the, the big black silhouette thing at the end of a Disney movie. But I don’t think we can actually call the Ghost of Christmas Future evil. It’s just. No, yeah. As much as Grim Reaper, I guess would be evil. Yeah. Yeah. Which Bill and Ted, of course, working out the best version of that. But. But that’s the whole point. That’s just. It’s. It’s a living. Right. It’s. It’s like the, the animals in the Flintstones. Right. It’s a living or it’s a killing, I guess. Well, that makes it sound worse though. So maybe death is bad.

I don’t know. Well, even Bill and Ted’s version, what was the original movie that was based on? Was it like the Seven Sins or something? So anyways, their. Their version of the Grim Reaper in that particular instance was. Was also based on like some really classic OG cinema. Yeah. So I guess that doesn’t count. Seventh Seal, I can’t remember. It’s sign Or Seal. I always. One is a. Is a trashy late 80s horror thriller and the other one is Igmore Bergman. And I always get signed and see a little bit mixed up. But yes, if anyone feels like searching that they can.

They can do that or, or keep screaming at the phone or whatever. There. My heater is screaming at me. Okay. So, yeah, I guess that’s the thing. They make it feel so evil and. And I’m going for Scrooge again, where they really make it seem scary, I guess, but not evil. That’s how. That’s how the Scrooge movie does. And this one just kind of puts it in the background, which cinematically, that is cool. I. I think it’s kind of cool that he’s just not, you know, up and up in death stank. He’s a little distant, I guess.

Yeah. Again, this is not the greatest way to exploit the medium. Right. Like, you could have easily done all that shadow work in a practical sense. This is one of the. The many reasons why maybe the movie didn’t do as great or they didn’t. They didn’t really use the medium to, like, their best advantage, like me. And you could have made a shadow that, like, pulled back, sort of a. Like a. Like a bedspread. Right. It’s like the only part that fully probably, well, you. You could say needed to be animated is. Is the abacus section that goes to Christmas present, because that has all the weird, trippy stuff.

They’re. They’re tripping, literally. But I would have liked to see them try and do that practically, or, you know, as a mix. You’ve been on again, you’ve been on Soarin, right. Like, they, they have the capability to, to, you know, blend reality with. The floor just gave out. And now you’re seeing an entire world pass under your feet. Have you seen the Soarin around the world or just the one that’s like the. The old version one. Okay. Because I just. This year, earlier this year, I did the newer version and disneysea and it looks. It’s still fun and everything, but a lot of that is now CG augmented.

I think there’s, like. When you think about the Taj Mahal, if you look at a YouTube video that a few of the ones, you’re like, what? This looks terrible. You know, it’s. What’s wild too, is that me and you are going through this, like, very analog animation. And then we clearly see when analog turns to digital, and then we see when Digital turns to 3D CGI version of Digital. And. And there’s going to be a whole nother version of all of this too. Right. Like the word. Just in the middle of this huge evolution. I wonder how long until the pendulum swings back, if there’s ever going to be analog animation ever again or if it just all becomes live action is the pinnacle.

We’re in a weird spot, though. We’re in the complete inversion where they take animation and make it look like they call it live action, but it’s not actually live action. It’s still all cg. Yeah, yeah. They keep. You know, it’s like a lot in live action. Is it really? The Lion King doesn’t even have human characters. That’s like basically a fully CG movie. I think that just proves the absolute power Disney has over reality at this point where they. They’re telling you this is live action and it’s the exact opposite of live action. I do remember watching the Jungle Book, the live action quote, unquote.

Well, it’s got the kid in it, Right. So it’s like how Life of PI is live action, you know, Although the whole thing there, they were like, oh, it’s not really live action or actors here, but the tiger is digital. Those and that sea is digital. And you can’t tell. Well, then you can kind of tell a little, but. Right. And again. And you just give yourself five, ten years and then you can absolutely tell. And they spent so much money trying to make it look good in Life of Pie that the company did it, like, went bankrupt right after.

Right. Like, people were amazed. They spent too much money. Huge trend with these huge blockbuster movies that these huge studios put out. They also can, you know, run an entire studio completely underground. Yeah. People dying, they make. Of course. Of course, a child dying is a tragedy and nobody wants to see Tiny Tim die, but I’m like, you know, the mortality rate was really high in 19. Excuse me, in 1843. So it’s not unsurprising. Yeah, well, yeah. Have you read any other Dickens books? It doesn’t usually work out very well for the kids. Dickens even knew.

That’s right. And then Scrooge himself dies on January 7th, which I don’t know if they mean next week or next Christmas for that. It was a little unclear to me. I guess it doesn’t matter anyway, he’s already an old fart. And would this all have happened if he wasn’t planned to die? This almost felt like this was the. The spirit world’s version of giving him his last chance to not be an absolute scumbag on his way out of the the world. But also, it seems that the things that he did in those final moments, I guess that doesn’t really balance out an entire lifetime.

But also all the things that he did, it seemed that he. He might have been merciless and maybe even cruel, but only in the matters of money and business. It’s not like he was going and like harming anyone or physically, you know, attacking anybody. He was just living everything to the utmost letter of like, you know, capitalism, like crossing every T and dotting every I and ignoring all other human interaction outside of that. But would the gods care? Would the gods care how well you played along to like, the programming that was inherent to like that realm you were in? I don’t know, it’s.

It’s a weird concept that like, would he have been punished? Like, was he actually doing anything bad with his life? Yeah, it’s. It’s like if. If you know you only have two weeks left to live, why not just start throwing your money around? That. Is that true altruism? If you, if you’re like, definitely on the way out, you just got like confirmation from the. From, you know, Death himself. Right. So basically Scrooge being visited by these, you know, ghosts of Christmas and then changing his life around in the final days or even year, if you give it a whole year.

It has that same vibe as like the Mafia dawn that’s on his deathbed and he’s being given last rites and he like, you know, prays for forgiveness and, you know, it almost has that same sort of logic applied here. Yeah. And then I wrote at the end, I do know what the ending narration is. All I did was write weird ending narration and did not make a more detailed note. I didn’t make that same note. So. No. Okay. Yeah, that. I shouldn’t have made that note. Oops. Oh, music is Alan Silvestri, who also did Back to the Future.

So we do have several future guys on here, I guess. Again, this is a very much a time travel movie that’s a Christmas Carols. Maybe one of the older. It might be one of the first Christmas time travel movies stories. Well, until modern times, I don’t think we really have any. You know, also 1918, I keep want to say 1918, 43. I mean, Christmas is a very different deal at the time, I think. I mean, this is. It’s here. Night Before Christmas is not. Is somewhere around here. I mean, this is a. It’s also where, I guess Christmas is becoming a little More of a big holiday again.

You know, Scrooge can make this guy work on Christmas. That’s fine. Where 100 years later. Oh, no, you can’t do that unless you’re in Japan. Right, right. Well, I’m talking to states in England, I guess, but I guess. Yeah. Well, it takes place in 1836, the original one, and then. Or it starts out in 1836 when he dies, and then seven years pass until we see all of these events take place. Right. So we’re basically talking 1840s. Right? 1843. Yeah. Yeah. Because, I mean, you know, like modern Christmas, where he gets cranky with. With Santo, which is what, the 1910s or something? Is that when the.

All the Santa ads kind of made him ubiquitous? Everyone says Coca Cola, but that’s not really true. There. There’s absolutely other versions of Santa, like a. Like a big jolly. A lot of it also comes from Germanic folklore. A lot of, I think the idea of a big jolly, giggling center and just being the focal point of Christmas as opposed to anything. Because the other, I guess the. The more historically accurate version of Christmas was everyone celebrating that they didn’t die. Like, they made it to the worst possible point in terms of starvation and sickness and everything that can go wrong, sort of worldwide pandemics aside.

Right. We just got lucky that our pandemic recent one course correlated a little bit with the Christmas season. But usually that the Christmas cheer and celebration was just about, oh, my God, we didn’t die. We made it one more here, and then it’s only going to get better from here. The weather’s going to start getting better. So it was a celebration that we made it past the worst possible point. Right. The sun has died, but we’re still here, you know, Gosh darn it. So that. That was the original celebration. So I think that the migration of the, like, hooray, we didn’t die, it loses a little bit of its relevancy.

So then it’s easier to turn it into this token. Now it’s like, hooray. We get to drink Coca Cola and Open Presence, you know. But the original premise, you peel back all the layers. It’s like you. You survived. Thank God you survived because so many people died. I mentioned that in Japan, the new year is the bigger holiday and they moved that it used to be April Fool’s Day would have been the old school New Year’s. The idea being it’s right after the spring equinox, right. And still in Japan, school year starts in April. People start their jobs in April.

So in most ways, April still is the start of the year in Japan. Like, in terms of my job, I’m like, april is the new year. Which kind of makes sense. I mean, having your new year in the, you know, right at the start of the coldest part of winter seems a little rough, you know. Well, I mean, I would say that, like, Christianity itself is like a consolidation of convenience. You take all of these extra gods and rules and dates and all sorts of stuff, and you’re just like, look, it’s all just this one thing now.

You celebrate all the gods on, like, just this one or maybe just like a handful of days. It’s all the same God every time. And I think Christmas is like a further escalation on that, that simplification where now even in this movie, when they talk about Ghost of Christmas Present, he. He mentions that, you know, it’s. It’s me and my 147 brothers or whatever. Like all 140 whatever of them that. That. Or all a thousand of them. He’s basically saying that every year is a different brother. But I think that. That that sort of aspect is a convenience thing where not only is it the death of the year and all this, but the.

The re. The rebirth that year, an old man being replaced by the little baby, that whole New Year’s symbolism is just so, so much more convenient to turn into just this one holiday. Now, it’s a religious thing and it’s a practical thing. It’s like a Farmer’s Almanac sort of thing. And that’s the reason, because you’re talking about Easter, sort of like a rebirth version. Religious. From a religious perspective, that. That’s the much more major holiday. Right, I get. Yeah, it’s the more religious version of it. Culturally, it’s Christmas. But if. If you’re getting dogmatic or in the doctrine or whatever you want to do that, that would be Easter.

So that’s. That’s. But the social, like the cathartic release, the. The programming that we all go through, that we’ve turned the new leaf. That’s New Year’s now. Now that’s January 1st. It would have been, you know, kind of like, thematically, that would have been Easter that you’re talking about, but that’s less convenient. It’s more convenient to just combine all holidays into one holiday. It’s just like the New World Order, right? Like, you take all the religions and you make one world religion. That’s kind of the. The track that I think a lot of these Things are on, like, it.

It tends to. And it’s. And it’s not like it’s actually simplifying. It’s actually making it way more complicated. Because now you’re just, like, mashing everything into a big ball and trying to figure out if you took every single color of play doh. And mashed into a big ball and started mixing it, it would be like trying to, like, pick those original colors back out again. At a certain point, it becomes an impossible task. But now there’s just this one big ball that you got to worry about. That’s just one color. Yeah. I guess that’s why I’m bringing up the thing in Japan, because in Japan, everyone knows the year starts in April, but they move their New year’s back to January 1st just to, you know, make nice with all.

With all the other cultures. Is that your. I mean, that’s kind of a surreal sort of. Because that’s really how it does work. But we’ve already become so acclimated to consolidating our holidays into just the one major holiday. Because, remember, China’s like, piss off. We’re doing New Year’s when we want to do New Year’s, you know, but for business, of course, they’ll date it according to what. What everyone else is doing. But, yeah, Chinese New Year’s, what, middle of February or something? Yeah. And they. They just absolutely shut down. I think it’s. It’s end of January, early February.

And I only know this because that’s all. All my. A lot of the printers that I work with in China all give you deadlines. Like, we basically just disappear from the planet for two weeks or more. During this time period, we don’t care that we are the. The world, like, hub of all manufacturing. Everything shuts off. But, I mean, even Christmas, they don’t really know when Jesus was born. So it’s like, okay, well, we can appropriate the old holiday and just throw it in there and everyone’s happy. And a few thousand years later, you’ll get Santa Claus.

It’s convenient. And I think there’s something to be said for that. Like, the con, the convenience actually makes it last way longer. Yeah. Did you have any other big things in your notes you wanted to crack into? I had a couple. I mean, we’ll. We’ll jump around through them because I know we’re already running long for A Christmas Carol. I got a lot of notes. I have a lot of notes on this. So one of them is, again, the. The decrease the population message. They Said he literally says decrease the surplus population, which kind of proves that there was this.

This like eugenics mindset that predates even the world, the word existing. Because the eugenics is first defined in 1883 by Francis Galton. And without that, that’s usually where people say, well, that’s when it started. No, you can see in A Christmas Carol that eugenics was already alive and well two full generations before Galton ever even give you another 100 year. The British Empire. The sun never sets, right? I mean, there’s that. Yeah, it’s just that someone came up with a fancy name at some point, but it predates it to. To such a degree that it’s. It’s persistent even in this book.

And they kind of use that as this appalling version. But really that’s like the most British thing that he could have said. I think that really is like a, like a, like Ebenezer Scrooge kind of represents the British Empire in so many different ways. In the story, he actually has a son. It’s Tarzan out in the. Out in the Congo, whatever. And yeah, just like you put Scrooge into. Into the. The forest, in the rainforest, he will start a successful business enterprise, like, guaranteed. He. The one part I think was my favorite, when the ghost skull breaks off, it’s actually the ghost of Jacob, his original worker, that we see putting the two pennies.

And I also wonder if Scrooge had not taken the pennies off of his eyes, which probably made it so that he could not pass into the afterlife. Right? Because that was your. Your tuppence or your 2 pence was your fee in order to pass. And it was like a river sticks kind of thing. But if you don’t give them the money, then they don’t get the pass. So did he actually help himself out unknowingly here? Like, he created a ghost and that ghost ends up giving him the second chance to make right in his life before he dies.

We did damn his business partner then, right? He. He damned the business partner, but it saved his life in the process. Because if he had not taken the gold off, he had not damned his business partner, then the business partner just would have floated off into the afterlife and there would be no reason for him to come back and talk to Scrooge again, right? Isn’t that how this works? I guess that’s why they had, you know, Gary Oldman sounding properly grumpy as Marley, right? So Jim Carrey couldn’t sound like a grumpy Marley who’d been Eternally helping the person who eternally damned you.

That’s, that, that’s a, you know, supernatural mind trip. There was also another, I guess, ghost slash character, and that was the candle flame, which you already mentioned was like Lumiere in Beauty and the Beast. It was kind of like a live action version of that. But that one was probably the most occult Rosicrucian aspect of this entire movie, I think, because he kept talking about this literal flame. Like this is just Rosicrucianism or masonry, essentially. That’s, that’s where I started wondering if I should I compare this to like their initiation or whatever, you know, because that candle is making me think it too.

Yeah, I mean, it, it’s kind of, again, it’s just like an oversimplified Christmas children’s movie version of all this. But that, that candle and all the metaphors that they’re just kind of like dripping with the metaphors he’s talking about. Would you, this is a direct quote. Would you so soon put out with your worldly hands the light I give? I mean, this is like suppressing Jebus or this is suppressing, you know, like this inherent spark like the Promethean flame. So I think Lucifer, that’s, that’s where. Yeah, this is like, don’t suppress Lucifer on Christmas out of all the days.

Also the, the version of them flying through air when he’s with Ghost of Christmas Present, Dionysus or Bacchus, and they’re tripping and they’re looking through and they’re doing the Soren thing. This reminded me so much of a book that I’m gonna, I’m gonna ham fist into every time that it can even slightly come up. But is the voyage to the world of Cartesius or the Cartesian voyage where they describe Renee Descartes snorting DMT and then flying into outer space and being taught about Vortices and Rosicrucianism from basically these ascended masters. And that he would come back into the mundane, you know, real world again and bring some of this knowledge with him.

This feels like just a, another version of that where he takes some sort of a drug, he starts tripping out, he flies all over the place, he gets a completely a literal, a different perspective on life and then gets to reincorporate that back into his actual life. Like, this is a story that you can. And that. The reason that I think that’s so remarkable is that the Cartesian voyage, or the voyage in the world of Cartesius was written in 1684. So this is like a full 150 years predating this whole entire concept of flying around and having these masters.

And not to say that that that was the first time that was ever presented either, but just like the, the aesthetics of it, like the visuals that are portrayed in that book and in this book kind of show like a little bit of a thread. So that this wasn’t a completely new sort of brainchild. So I thought that one’s an interesting one. I was in there wondering, gee, I wonder if Dickens had been lucid dreaming. You know, because that’s kind of the, especially the Christmas present. But the whole thing could be like, or, or a vivid dream.

Like, like I was saying last week, sometimes the vivid dream is actually more useful than the lucid dream. So maybe this is that very vivid dream. You know, there’s also a reference a few different times in this about like the chimney sweeps. And it just reminded me of all the, the occult chimney stuff that we dug up when we were doing Mary Poppins and Dick Van Dyke and like this, this lucky. And if you also look at old postcards from around this era, the chimney sweep was a main symbol on these like Victorian postcards. And because the chimney sweep was seen as the same good luck token, they would be holding four leaf clovers, it also be around these Amanita muscaria mushrooms all the time.

So there’s like this weird like tripping Saturnalia sort of Bacchus Elusinian mysteries link and the, And I, I was trying to look at like, what was the actual reason behind this luck? Neither of these stories make any sense. So I don’t think that these stories are the real ones. But one of them was that a, a chimney sweep saved a bride on her wedding day and then like kissed her and ran away or something. And then now all of a sudden that becomes this, this symbol of good luck. But really, all these chimney sweeps, these were children.

These were children being exploited and being forced to work because nobody else could fit into these tiny little chimneys. So though, if you actually look at pictures of chimney sweeps from the 1800s, it’s all just children. There’s no Dick Van Dykes, there’s no grown men that are doing this job. So I think it was almost lucky again that like, they even survived the job. And they might have been paying a little bit of like, now you get to be a symbol of luck. Like, that’s the payoff of having this horrendous job that most of you will never, you know, be able to live into your old Age.

So it actually became like a rare sight to even see a chimney sweep. Soot came into style as a fashion statement. You were like a king. George was riding on horseback and a dog runs into the crowd and the horse rears up and he almost dies, but he gets saved by a chimney sweep. Again, none of those make any sense to me. I feel like those were all based on different stories that just never got fleshed out. They just haven’t made it into modern times. Well, it’s like how 10 years ago, there are all those stories about Chuck Norris, right? He was like our chimney sweep of the 2010s.

Again, I was never on the Chuck Norris train. I just, I would. You know, that’s when Facebook, I just get tons of Chuck Norris memes and stuff. So. But that kind of made me think of the same thing. Like, you know, obviously there’s not actual accounts or things, so. So. But my, my last, I swear my last eugenics tie into this. But I, I think that it’s the crux of this entire movie. I think that eugenics is the thing that ruins Ebenezer Scrooge’s life. Because when we go back in time and we see Ghost of Christmas Past and first he sees Fezziwig and he’s all excited because this was his first job and he’s talking about this was his first mentor.

So the, his very first apprenticeship is at this Fezziwig company. And slowly, like he, he goes from excited because this is where he got involved in the mundane world and his mastery of it. But then it boards a little bit. They’re at a Christmas party, he’s enjoying Christmas. But then he meets his. His soon to be wife. And wouldn’t you know that she is blonde hair, blue eyes, like she is an Aryan goddess essentially. And they fast forward a little bit in time and they show that they’re having a fight. And she’s basically saying, you know, I release you from marriage.

Like she’s verbally giving them a divorce. It seems like because she realizes that he is such a master and so obsessed with the mundane world and like, you know, fiscal advancement and just being like a, a rich, studious guy that she doesn’t have a dowry. She calls herself a dowerless woman. And it’s like, would you still have chosen me now in your. In your current mind state? And I think that. And they used him sort of becoming cross the world, but they don’t actually have an explanation of why he became this way. Like, if everything was going right for him, why does he start turning into this ba humbug Scrooge archetype.

And eugenics makes the, the point here. I think that at a certain point, if he is so rational and everything, he runs through this very strict, consistent logic of his. He realizes I’m not blonde hair and blue eyed. Like I don’t fit into the actual point of eugenics here. I’ve, I’ve got this frail body, you know, I’ve got like a horrible family line. I can’t actually mix with this perfect Aryan goddess. So that’s why he breaks it off. And it absolutely destroys him inside knowing that in order to be consistent, he has to break ties with his future wife.

And that’s, that’s literally what turns him into Scrooge is the only thing that makes sense to me because at no point does he have to make some sort of choice between her and finance. It’s almost like he just starts making a little bit of money from his apprenticeship at Fezziwig that his heart just turns cold because of it. And then when they break up, his heart was already cold. And then it just gets worse and worse from there. But they pointed that exact moment as like the thing that broke him. But clearly something broke him prior to that particular conversation.

Yeah, yeah, I mean, did it to himself, I guess is the main thing. But hey, I just wanted to throw out this is on a few different tangents. I was just looking at adaptations of the story and the one that I would have seen growing up would have been the 1970 musical adaptation starring Albert Phineas Scrooge and Alec Guinness as Marley’s ghost. I was like, I know there’s one where I’m gonna see and be like, oh yeah, I saw that one a lot. So that would have been the one they were probably showing. Sounds familiar. That sounds real familiar.

Yeah. So that, that would have been the, the yearly one. Then of course, when Scrooge came along, I forgot all about that one. Right. So. And one, one other note too. I guess another occult note here is there’s a very specific scene in which Scrooge is flying through the air and then you see this weird silhouette of him in front of the moon. He’s like flying in front of the moon. He’s literally a man in the moon. And biblically, the a man in the moon come from the Book of Numbers. But it was they, they caught somebody working on the Sabbath and stoned him to death.

So there is one interpretation of like an occult, European occult version of man in the moon is somebody that’s Being punished because they were working when they shouldn’t have been. Which also kind of represents this Ebenezer Scrooge archetype. Right. He’s forcing people to work on Christmas and he shouldn’t be. And that’s kind of construed to be like the Sabbath. Like, he not only himself is working on the Sabbath, but he’s forcing other people to work on the Sabbath. And that’s really the ultimate sin. Like you. You were put to death for doing that in the old days.

Have we discussed what people see in the moon in Japan before? Right. It’s the. The rabbit. Rabbit. Making rice cakes. Yeah. So, yeah. Making the mochi cakes for. How do you pronounce the. The goddess. Like chung. Chung. Yay or. Oh, geez. That’s. It’s jang. And then an apostrophe E. Okay. I think that is that Japanese name. So. Okay. I don’t know. Actually, I don’t know the name of the goddess. I just know there’s a rabbit up there making mochi. Yeah. Because we saw these metal works. My parents visited last month. We were at a museum with these metal works.

And, you know, my dad was like, man, dude must have been really high when he made that one, because it was the rabbit making mochi, like, metal work. If there’s a Japanese and a Chinese interpretation of a rabbit in the moon, wouldn’t those basically be the same thing? It would be the same thing. I’m just saying the name. Yeah, Yeah. I don’t. I can’t recall the Japanese name. And I’m thinking what you’re saying sounds like it’s like a Grease Room kind of deal. Yes. Yes, yes, yes. My last thought is wondering if were you. As a child, I just got really confused between Marley and Bob Marley for a while.

Yeah, yeah. You can’t. You’re not allowed to name anything Marley anymore without it automatically taking on a Bob Marley connotation. Sorry. So. And even. Even about the stupid movie about the dog that dies. Same thing. Like, I can’t not think about Bob Marley even when the dog’s dying. Spoiler alert. Oh, man. I guess we’ll start wrapping up for today then. And if. If you got to the end of your note, my favorite scene in the entire movie is when we see the Ghost of Christmas Present talking about he’s about to die because he only lives for one year.

And it’s like when the clock hits midnight, that’s when he expires. Then he opened. Or Ebenezer sees, like, a little hand and he’s like is that a hand or a claw? And he basically flashes them. He opens up his robe but inside of his robe are these two children. There’s a boy and there’s a girl. The boy is Ignorance and the girl is Want. And he’s basically saying like beware of them both. And this I think that this boy Ignorance and girl Want. This was a reference to that whole premise where he was given an explanation of why he didn’t want to contribute to the poor.

And he was saying that we’ve already got prisons, we’ve already got work houses. And then we see that one of them ends up in like a straight jacket. So this, this is also directly from the original A Christmas Carol book. This, these two like street urchin looking children, Ignorance and Want, which are kind of like demons. They’re sort of like these demonic entities. So anyway, that was my favorite scene in the the whole movie. It is incredibly occult the way that they’re representing these like personifications of these. These two children that are going to be like the harbingers of of death and basically like the ruin.

Like they represent humanity. Yeah, I guess that’s the thing. This movie does a good job with the present part because I feel like in other versions you’re just waiting to get to the Grim Reaper. You know, you again, you were just waiting for the. The Scrooged. And now I think I have to re watch Scrooged as well. I do too actually. It’s been a few years. I guess we’ll wind down though if you want to tell people what’s up for Christmas or maybe you’re just after Christmas season. Yeah, this will be the just after Christmas season.

I don’t know what I’ve got planned for 2025. I’ve got a whole bunch of different releases. The illuminaticomic.com went really well. I’ve got at least three more of those ready to go. Right behind it I’ve got a comic on Bigfoot. Where you can see is Does Bigfoot exist dot com. I’ve got Titanic comic dot com. That’s another little pamphlet about the Titanic. All the different conspiracy theories you ever heard about it. Another one called satanic panic comic.com this is basically a little chick track on the origins of the Satanic panic in America. Specifically it covers the entire world but it really gets into the names, dates and and chronology of Satanism in the States.

And a little spoiler alert on that one too that it did not start in the 60s or the 70s and it didn’t go from Salem and then resurgence back when like the Manson family came along. There was a long detailed thread that you can show the. The migration of Satan into pop culture through Hollywood and music and everything. So that’s what I’ve been working on. Those are the things that are going to be coming out hopefully in early 2025, or at least the campaigns for them. So you can follow all those@panoidamerican.com yeah, that’s for me. I do a bunch of podcasting.

You see the link there if you’re watching it. If I can point out roving say sorry. That’s a different thing. Podcastiopodcastius.org I talk about a bunch of movies there. The Twilight Zone, Plan of the Apes, Space 1999, kind of a weirdly occult show from the 70s. And if you really dig it, go for Podcastio Podcastia’s Patreon and throw a. Throw a tuppence or something at us. Isn’t that weird too, that the tuppence thing. Two pens and there were a hundred and twenty pennies in a. Or no, there were twenty pennies in a shilling. Or the. The math didn’t make any sense.

It was like 240 cents in a pound. I didn’t get that. Dude, I’ve been on metric for the past 15 years. Yeah, I scribbled my life away driven the right page will it enlight your brain give you the flight my plane paper the highs ablaze somewhat of an amazing feel when it’s real, the real you will engage it your favorite opposite the lord of an arrangement I gave you the proper results to hit the pavement if they get emotional hey, maybe your language a game how they playing it well without Lakers evade them whatever the course they are to shapeshift snakes get decapitated met is the apex execution of flame you out Nuclear bombs distributed at war rather gruesome for eyes to see max them out that I light my trees blow it off in the face you destroy despising me for what Though calculated they’d rather cut throat paranoid American must be all the blood smoke for real Lord, give me your day your way vacate they wait around to hate whatever they say man it’s not in the least bit we get heavy rotate when a beat hits so thank us you’re welcome.

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