Disney Made You Love War Machines and You Didnt Even Notice

➡ This text is a discussion from the Occult Disney Codcast about Disney’s movies “Planes” and “Planes: Fire and Rescue”. The hosts discuss how these movies are the first Disney films to feature anthropomorphic weapons of war, and how they believe this could be a way to introduce children to the military. They also talk about how the second movie seems to be targeted towards grandparents and their grandchildren. The hosts also mention the accuracy of the aviation terminology used in the movies, suggesting it could be a way to familiarize children with flying.
➡ The speaker discusses their collection of vintage comics, including a 60s Iron Man comic, and their difficulty finding such items in Japan. They also talk about their love for Spider Man comics from the early 90s. The conversation then shifts to a comparison of the movies “Planes” and “Cars 2”, with the speaker expressing a preference for “Cars 2”. They also discuss the voice actors in these films, noting the presence of Dane Cook and Stacy Keach in “Planes”.
➡ The text discusses the complexities of a world where vehicles like cars and planes are sentient. It explores the logistics of such a world, including the need for larger spaces to accommodate planes and the potential for vehicles to inhabit other vehicles. The text also mentions the concept of ‘go drugs’ and ‘no go drugs’ used by military pilots to stay alert or sleep. The authors question the logic behind this world and its rules, and they also touch on the topic of themed hotels.
➡ The text discusses a movie where the main character, a plane, is afraid of heights and must overcome this fear. The movie includes many references to pilot jargon and history, such as the term “flat hatter” for a reckless pilot. The text also questions the realism of the movie, such as a crop-dusting plane competing against jets and flying through the Himalayas. The movie’s message seems to be that anyone can achieve anything, like becoming a top-class pilot or even president.
➡ The discussion revolves around a Disney movie that portrays a globalist perspective, with no single country dominating. The movie also introduces new themes such as anthropomorphic weapons of war, blood-sucking creatures, and a character with multiple personalities. Despite these unique elements, the movie received low ratings. The speakers also note that the movie seems to cater to an older audience, referencing older films and TV shows that younger viewers might not recognize.
➡ The text discusses a movie where a character named Dusty is mentored by Stacy Keach’s character, who Dusty admires as a war hero. The movie references a real-life event, the assault of Kunming, involving a group called the Flying Tigers who fought against Japanese bombers. The text also mentions various drugs, their effects, and incidents related to them. Lastly, it talks about another movie, Planes to Fire and Rescue, where Dusty, now older, has to retire due to a heart problem, and the movie’s themes of military technology being repurposed for altruistic uses.
➡ The text discusses the production and plot of two movies, presumably sequels, where war machines are repurposed for rescue missions. The second movie’s plot revolves around a character named Dusty, who was a racer in the first film, but now faces retirement due to a faulty gearbox. The text also mentions some questionable decisions in the movie, like choosing to destroy a water tower over an airport. The discussion ends with a mention of a potential Howard the Duck remake.
➡ The speaker discusses their thoughts on various movies and TV shows, including Howard the Duck, Chips, and Planes. They also mention the music in these films, noting similarities to other popular themes. They express their desire for merchandise from these films, but are selective about what they want. The speaker also discusses the potential for future films in the Cars and Planes universe, suggesting ideas for new characters and plotlines. They end by discussing their tendency to fall asleep in movie theaters, regardless of the film being shown.
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The Codcast, Yeah. Where we got cod pieces for Disney. The occult Disney podcast where we look into all of the animated theatrical releases and more of the Walt Disney Corporation. I’m just stressing the corporation today because we’re looking at planes and planes, Fire and rescue, which just sounds like things that came out of a board meeting. This is Matt here. It’s paranoid American over there. Am I getting too snarky too quickly? No. And I don’t think it was as much of a board meeting as like a military operation. Okay, Boardroom, kind of. But it’s military people.

Military people? What, like, like we’re top gunning it a bit or what? I mean, this is clearly the first. First Disney movie that I can think of that that has. And this is not me being snarky. This is all literal. This is not hyperbole. Anthropomorphic weapons of war. Right? I can’t think of a single other Disney movie. Even if you go live action. Include all of them. I can’t think of a single one. When they took a literal weapon of war that’s used to hurt, like kill people and break their things. Those are the two missions of military.

And then give it like a little smile and have it do a little dance. Yeah, I. Well, yeah, that’s interesting because why don’t we just start saying cars now? Because obviously this is like the weird, like, you know, like what do they call it back in the. The. The ditto machines. Right. Where the teacher in the 80s or the 50s or whatever would go and it would be the purple ink ditto machine. Before they had proper copiers. I feel like planes is a ditto machine of cars. This is before I know what you’re talking about because I went down a rabbit hole of people that are addicted to Ditto Inc.

And get like high off Ditto Inc. And they order it by the ream, I guess, and they like Jones for it. And it’s because. But that was. That’s before my time. Maybe three years makes all the difference in that reference. And then I’m thinking it might have been first, second, third grade, but. And I. I don’t love dittoing, but I can see where somebody might get a weird fascination for that. Yeah. If you have Certain. He’s off a dittoink again. Anyway. Yeah, I kind of felt like Planes is that. Yeah. I was actually thinking, as you’re saying that I guess we haven’t had weapons of war, have we? Because I did think of Valiant One.

Not made by Disney, only distributed by Disney. Right. But in that case, they took an animal and turned it into a weapon of war. But in this case, they’re taking a literal. Like a fighter jet with missiles on it, but they just don’t show you the missile part or, like, the guns. But we’re taking actors in a war, right. And turning it into, like, a fun character that you can put on a T shirt and turn into a toy. Yeah. Because we had Paul Newman voicing the grizzled old car and cars, but he had just been a racer, which is a very different thing than flying, you know, missions.

Like, for example, these are some of the first Disney characters that as. It’s like these fighter jets are flying through the air. And. And I’m just thinking, like, one of those guys has got body count. And. And I’m talking like, triple digigit body count. Right. And that’s not something common for a Disney good guy. So do you think they take a bit of the air out of it by having him be like, oh, he only flew one mission? Like, it’s not like he did, like, you know, like, it’s not catch 22, where he’s on mission. About the old Mentor character at this point.

I mean, every. So Even in the very beginning as the credits roll. And it basically has Dusty in his mind, but he’s got these fighter jets that he’s, like, flying with, and he’s outmaneuvering them, and he’s gonna, like, beat these fighter jets. Right. Those fighter jets themselves are also weapons of war that probably have a higher body count than our old man Mentor does. Yeah, I guess that’s an inherent problem in making a film because with cars, it’s very easy to have, you know, except for vehicular homicide, you know, the. The. The cars don’t suggest any particular violence.

Right. Planes. If you do the planes that don’t suggest violence, you’re stuck with, what, Cessna’s passenger jets and helicopters only some Helicopters, obviously not a Apache. Rescue copters. Well, but they do get into. In the second movie. The second movie, Fire and Rescue does seem to go like. Go a little bit like, oh, maybe we need to focus on planes that are more helpful. Well, so I guess. I guess we should just cover both movies combined. Like, planes. My plan. So Planes one, it kind of introduces this military aspect, and I think it’s for like, veterans or infantile.

Maybe like. Like new recruits. I’ll just say new recruits, but it’s kind of made for that audience. And then planes too. It’s literally a movie for your grandparents to take you to. Like, all of the jokes, all the references. Everything in Planes two is about old retirees and their old retiree jokes. So I really do. And we were talking before we started recording, you were like, yeah, I think I probably fell asleep in Planes too, a couple times. I couldn’t remember if I finished it because it’s the grandparent movie. It’s. And I swear, if you re.

Watch Planes two and just know that this is a movie that was made for grandparents to bring their grandkids to, the whole movie makes sense. And the pacing makes sense and all the characters make sense. Like, everything fits directly into place. And then Planes one, I think it’s almost like baby’s first exposure to the military industrial entertainment complex. That’s kind of what Plains one is. Yeah. We should note as we do a little production. Both of these are theatrical. The second one, you said the grandparents are taking their kids to it, but. Oh, I guess it.

I thought I had a limited release, but actually it had a release that seems quite profitable. So, yes, the grandparents were taking their kids to this. It made three times as money. Budget of 50 million, box office of 147. The first one, only a year earlier. Such a quick turnaround was a bigger deal. 50 million, 240 million budget profit. Excuse me to Box Talk today as we. I feel that’s. That’s because they’re. They’re flying off the success of Cars still. So people go to Planes one expecting, you know, cars. And I don’t. I wonder how many people actually went into that.

And we’re like, okay, that’s exactly what I was hoping for. I don’t know. For. For me was a little flat, but I. I can. Because it also seems to be so very, very on point with the terminology. They. They went overboard in how accurate they were and all the phrases that they were using and the actual maneuvers. Like, they made it more real to life than they needed to and part of me was like, this is indoctrinating the next generation of kids to just inherently know how to fly. Maybe like this is the first tiny little step towards that new trajectory.

The same way that, you know, digital natives are expected and just know how to use technology out of the womb. So this is a version of Disney working with the military. Like, hey, we need to get. We need to get eight year olds and planes asap. We need to put them inside of AVA suits. Yeah, well, let’s draw the line to Disney several years later. Or hey, Spider Man’s back. Disney has him now, by the way. He’s now military industrial complex, Tony Stark’s boy toy, and runs around in a, you know, military industrial costume with lots of chevrons and weird tech in it.

You know, that’s Spider man now, isn’t. Is. It’s a. It’s a new generation Spider Man. And to be honest, that if you were paying attention to the actual comics at this point, the difference between what, 2020 and a Spider man in like 1980 or 1990, if you took that same span of time and compared it to like the next generation Spider man, like after 2099 and all the other iterations came out, this is exactly we’re talking about. We’re talking about the alternate universe Spider man, where we’ve got Miles Morales and a whole bunch like, this is Spider man.

Now the one that you’re thinking of like the Toby Maguire 90. Yeah, I think this one, aren’t I now? This isn’t even. That’s not even dad’s Spider Man. That’s Grandpa’s Spider Man. Just while we’re on the. What we got? Yeah, 2000s. Getting a little weirder, right? And looking a little more sleek. I just picked up some comics while I was back in the States. And just just to brag a little bit, here’s the real winners I found. I found this 60s one with Iron man still in gold, fantastic 450 and 20. Can you not find western comics easily anywhere in Japan? Is that like a rarity? Oh, like this, like vintage ones? No, not at all.

And if I do find like a compendium or something of X Men or Avengers or whatever, it’s probably in Japanese. So I think we have all the more reason to come back more often. Yeah, yeah, there we go. Gave away some kind. Still have boxes though. The good stuff’s still in the boxes. So that’s there. Your Death of Superman in. In the enclosed plastic and everything. I did find one. Here’s one. Not in the enclosed plastic. Sorry, I was just. It’s just funny. I have all these things. X Force. X Force is still in the enclosed plastic.

And when I was 12 years old, I bought like, five copies. So I gave my daughter four and said, give this to your friends as omiyage. And apparently she gave a boy she has a crush on a sealed copy of X Force one. I don’t know how that turned out, but. Oh, wow. You can’t just let her be giving those away every time she meets some guy. That. That was like Liefeld’s peak too, right? That’s like Rob Liefeld pocket. That’s depressing. If that was his peak. I’m not against it, man. I like pockets. I like cargoes.

Nah, nah. I. I was. I always thought he looked more like a poor man’s McFarlane, you know, weird proportion stuff. I don’t know, man. I feel like he’s got his. He has his own lane. Because when you see a lie field drawing, you kind of know that it’s a lie field drawing. You. You might not like it as much as someone else’s, but it has a very specific look to it, which in itself is a huge feat as an artist. Yeah, yeah. I was just thinking of the big. I was about to start talking about other guys.

I was thinking about the big comics drain of the early 90s, where all the good artists went and did Image or that other one. Right. And. And then all the. Actually the marvel and DC’s turn. Yeah, Valiant. There was like a few different ones that popped in and out, but this was also. Speaking of Spider man, this is probably my favorite era. Spider man was Jim lee and, like, McFarlane teaming up and getting the whole backstory. There was like a whole crossover with Spider man and Juggernaut and X Force, and it was probably one of the better Spider man runs ever.

But I guess I’ll move us back into the planes. Which I thought was Direct to Video until, like, you know, a month ago when we planned to do it because both of them were theatrical releases. Even when we started this podcast, I had to go check again. I was like, well, the second one, does that really show in theaters? And I was like, oh, it actually made a lot of money, so it is weird. These are not Pixar, by the way. They are. One of the reasons I probably thought they were Direct to Dis to Video is their Disney tunes, which was the old imprint for Direct to Video.

Or maybe that’s the newer imprint, I guess, because that’s the one they do now, but John Lasseter was still involved as executive producer and he. He liked this because I guess he just liked playing with toys and playing with cars and planes. It feels like kind of playing with toys. Yeah, this. This one is infinitely more juvenile than cars, I think too. Like, even the. The level of humor. Dusty is a crop duster and he literally makes fart noises when he drives by certain times. So, like, this is kind of the level of dialogue that we’ve got.

It really. It really does feel like this one is made a little bit more for toddlers and like young grandparents. Grandparents and toddlers, yeah. The undeveloped and the scene. I will enjoy these movies, truly. I think it h. There’s something about it like grandma might like, unlock a new memory if you take her out to watch one of these movies or something. And I. I guess it’s like the EPK I’m thinking of reading here, but yeah, it has laster. Like, we didn’t want to just copy cars and have planes be like cars again, but with planes.

Like. Yeah, so you did cars too, with planes. That’s. That’s the first movie even. You’re bringing up all the military stuff that had all the military industrial complex stuff in it too, with all the spy stuff, right? It did. Although in. Again, in that one, like, all of those feel like they were retrofitted to be turned into weapons of war. And that’s what makes this one so unique in my mind. Like, this one’s gonna stand out. That Planes one is the. Is the big Disney movie where the. The military industrial complex and Disney finally just like, got a room and made a baby.

And that baby was Planes. Fire and Rescue, I guess, and Spider Man. Both of them. Yeah, both of them. Well, here we go. What movie do you prefer Planes or Cars too? Oh, cars too, for sure. Because I do feel like cars 2 is the bottom of the Pixar pile so far. At least. I. There’s. I haven’t seen some of the more modern ones, but I don’t know. I didn’t hate. I didn’t hate Cars too. It’s not in my top 10 or anything. Planes. I. I wasn’t. I think I might even like Planes two better than Planes one.

Just actually seems. That seems to be critical consensus too. Maybe though it says granddaddy jokes or grandmommy jokes or I should keeping both of them all. Yeah, all the. All the grandparents went and they rated it 10 on IMDb because that’s the only website that they probably know that’s hip with the kids. But yeah, but I think objectively, planes 2 has better graphics. There’s lots of, like, fire and explosions and action and things happening. Even though it’s paced really slow like a grandparent movie would be. Maybe that’s why I had so much trouble getting through it.

It’s not even that long. How long is the second? 84 minutes with a fair amount of credits. So. Yeah. And the Planes one was only an hour and a half with the credits. Now, I did like that. So. Yeah. It’s also just amazing. I. I guess they were like. I guess Cars was untenable because too many voice actors you have to rehire. I mean, I guess Larry. How much does Larry the Cable Guy cost? He can’t cost that much in 2025. I don’t, I don’t think. Okay, maybe in 2014, after doing two Cars movies, his salary had gone up a bit.

2013, whatever it was. Yeah, but it is kind of B team too. So we had Owen Wilson in Cars. Our lead here is Dane Cook. Ouch. We had Paul Newman. Now we have Stacy Keach. Love Stacy Keach. But that, that is a drop off and, you know, like, I guess star power, for sure. Terry Hatcher’s here. I mean, I like Terry Hatcher, but, you know, Julia Louise Dreyfus was here. Oh, John Cleese. Of course. Sinbad was in here. I didn’t catch Sinbad. Too bad. All of these seem like they’re upstaging Dane Cook by a large margin.

Not in 2013 though. Right? Because that’s probably when Dane Cook was at his kitchen through those times. They were rough. Yeah. Yeah. In those times, I. I guess Dane Cook does go in the top of that pile, but. Which is a bummer. Oh, no. Terry Hatcher just done. What was she on Desperate Housewives or something? That. But also earlier on she was on Lois and Clark, I believe the. Oh, yes, yes, yes, she was. I was trying to think like 2013 vintage, like, why she seems like she should be above Dane Cook. I don’t know what she was, but she was just a forklift.

You can’t give the forklift the top, you know, she was just a forklift. That’s kind of funny. Just a forklift. Now, you were thinking military industrial. I was thinking a lot about the weird class cast system in the Cars universe because. Just lots of weird things. Like I. When they have the first plane race, I noticed that the audience was 90 cars and 10 planes. I thought that was kind of weird and interesting, the planes being kind of isolated at certain points. I Was like, oh, are they living in like the Faroe Islands of the cars verse or something? You know? But it does seem like planes is like this.

They’re not like a pocket civilization, but just intrinsically they function different. You know, it’s like if we still had Neanderthals around, like, there’d be a weird divide. Possibly. Or Mormons. Yeah, sure, yeah. I haven’t been to Utah, so I don’t know. But. But I feel like if you just look at them like Mormons and that it makes a little more sense because like you’re saying planes are a minority of the population because so many cars versus only, you know, a few planes. So you’re kind of seeing some. I guess I didn’t pick up on that when I was watching it.

Like, man, does this world have more cars than planes? Does that mean planes are isolated? I guess it is. The second one, by the way, doesn’t have that because they’re out in the forest. Right. I started thinking more about Jack Kerouac’s Desolation Angels for some reason, which starts with him in a fire tower in the Washington Forest. But when they get out in the forest too, I don’t know if they specifically have like ATVs that are sentient, but you get, you get that impression that essentially, literally every single vehicle has some level of sentience to it in this plane’s universe.

So I just wonder how far down the chain that goes is like a lawnmower. Sentient is like a tiny little pool pump motor sentient. Like at what, at what point do you graduate and get to become like a full Rosicrucian spiritual body? Well, if you remember in cars, it wasn’t. The tractors were like cows, like they weren’t sentient. I, I get it was. It was that if you could see inside the car, then it wasn’t sentient. And if you could, like, if it was opaque, then that means that there’s an actual spirit inhabiting that car. I think that was roughly the rules that we started coming up with.

That doesn’t work for planes because I feel like a, A biplane, an old school biplane should still be sentient in the planes sphere. Right. But maybe that logic, you can see through it. So it wouldn’t be sentient. It could just be like a really convincing mechanical turk or something. I don’t know. Oh yeah, it’s an automaton of some kind. Yeah, I don’t know. We’re still working out the actual logic here. I don’t know if Disney even had this plan. Of course I didn’t. I just feel like with cars and planes, that’s the most fun stuff to think about.

Is there. Is there like the weird, you know, gushy form of a human somewhere deep in that car or that plane? I mean, we. We like thinking about that. I’m pretty sure that wasn’t part of the script when. And it shows these buildings with cars, like the airport, and there’s cars driving around inside the airport. And I mean thematically, then that means the cars are going through the gate and going down the little walk ramp or the drive ramp and then driving onto the plane. And then like the plane itself can go inside of another plane and then it can land on a battle cruiser.

Right. So there’s like, there’s this weird nesting doll that you don’t have to worry about with humans. And now all of a sudden, in the planes and cars universe, you do have to think about, like, oh, Tom is inside of Matt and Matt’s inside of like this other. You know, and like, that would just be a normal part of life, I guess. It wouldn’t sound with a human vehicular centipede there. Maybe not exactly like a centipede, but yeah, then you’d have to weld tailpipes to car mouths. Okay. Whenever this gets open source, right? Whenever this becomes royal public domain in like 70 years.

Yeah, someone wants to bother with that. I guess we’re kind of skipping around both movies just while we’re talking about the logistics. Something that really caught my eye was, well, first we. We in the second movie, we get the bar, which is like a hangar, but then we go to that lodge, like the honeymoon lodge or whatever, which is just massive. I’m like, you cannot build that in the mountains. It’s like four football fields or something. Because the lodge has to be able to accommodate all these cars and planes. Right? So it has to be just.

You have to have bigger spaces now that you have planes. Because in the movie Cars, we had like the. The lodge was what, like those giant traffic cones that were hotel rooms, you know, novelty hotel rooms, so they didn’t have to go too far in cars. But now that we’re in planes, a plane takes up space, you know, so the spaces no longer make sense. Yeah. And they can’t be shared. You would have to have buildings dedicated just for planes and then buildings dedicated for cars. So a lot of this breaks down and fun fact, maybe just a little bit tangential, but like the whole honeymoon suite with the heart shaped bed and like the whole nine Yard kind of thing that’s actually based on a real hotel from the Pocono Mountains.

So like, it actually started in like a. Like a. An American thematic place that. I don’t know if this was supposed to be a direct reference to it, but there’s one there I’ve heard of that hotel has a champagne flute bath. Yeah. Said in Japan we get the love hotels. We have all sorts of insane hotels you can go to with that. So, yeah, Japan wins. We don’t have to discuss that. There’s 10. Not 10, there’s about three within 10 minute, 15 minute walking distance of here. The closest one is called Hotel More. So they often have pretty funny names and.

Good. And then when I. And in my 20s, when I was in my 20s, I was, you know, hanging in Tokyo with. With. With girlfriend or whatever. And you could stay at a business hotel or you could stay at the love hotel, which has insane theming for the same price, maybe even slightly less. The. The one catch there is, I think once you go in, you basically have to stay until you leave. You’re like prisoner to the room. Once you leave the room, you no longer have the room. And also that smell and that like sticky feeling on the bottom.

No, they clean it. They clean it up. In Japan, it’s. They did. They did. That was the pl. Oh. I mean, you go like. I guess there’s some that look older that might have the problem, but you go to one that’s, you know, relatively well kept looking. It’s Japan. It’s well kept. You know, they change. I’m sure better. Better than the honeymoon suite in the Poconos. Now I do know my class trip to New York City in the ninth grade. We got to the hotel room near Times Square and. And the bed was wet. And we were like, what is this, a honeymoon suite? And then they.

They changed it for us. But you don’t want to come in the room and get a wet bed. What’s up with that? I guess probably they had washed the seats and not dried them correctly is what actually happened. Now that I’m thinking. Or somebody peed on them. I mean, it’s. It is New York. Or somebody peed on. It was New York. Yes. And it was time. It was pre Disney Fi. Times Square, because I remember the class president went out to buy a fake ID and got mugged. Okay, so here. Here’s another fun fact from the planes.

One movie. And this is why I think it was made for military vets specifically, and pilots, because they talk about zip. There’s a reference to Zip Juice and Go Go Punch and that it’s like somebody gets disqualified from the initial race that they’re in. And this is where Dusty is able to jump right back into the, like the finals. Almost the same plot line as Monsters University a little bit, right? Like the underdog almost makes it to the finals, but then doesn’t, and then someone gets disqualified and they get bumped back into third place. And now they’re able to participate again in this.

In this case, it was in the sixth place. So Zip Juice and Go Go Punch are actual references to drugs that pilots actually take. So there’s something called go drugs and no go drugs. And I’m, I’m trying. I don’t, I don’t know if I have all the, the notes on this. I’m trying to remember some of them off the top of my head. But like a, A go drug is something like a pro vigil. Up until very recently, methamphetamine, like Walter White methamphetamine, they didn’t smoke out of a pipe. They could actually, like, either take intravenously or they had other ways of taking it.

But methamphetamine was an actual, like, had an actual practical use by military pilots when they had to stay up or how to be like, alert and awake. They could get like, waivers that allow them to take very specific drugs, and then there’s no go drugs. And these ones include, like, Ambien and a few others that help you go to sleep so that if you just came off of a long mission and you need to be able to get rest so that you’re rested up for the next one. And these are these acceptable times in the military that you’re allowed to take drugs that other people are not allowed to take unless you’ve got like, some specific waiver.

So down a rabbit hole. The reason why military is, as of like, I think 10 years ago, is not allowed to take methamphetamine anymore is because someone had taken a little bit too much methamphetamine. They’re in the air. There was a practice drill being run by Canada and, and when they flew by, they, they misinterpreted because they were methed out, they misinterpreted this military exercise as an actual military conflict. And they, they’ve basically fired on these Canadian allies and killed a whole bunch of people. So after that happened, the military is like, okay, maybe no more meth, but they still take Go Go drugs.

No, I, I did get an image. I mean, you mentioned they do it intravenously or whatever. But I did just get this image of like because I’ve just been an airport, you know, and watching the pilot walking by or. And crew walking. Doing that with a crack pipe, you know, normal especially no stumble in their step as they’re smoking crack and walking down the. The concourse. Yeah. So. So I mean in my mind as I’m watching this with that context and they’re specifically calling it Zip Juice and Go Go Punch. Which I mean maybe I’m reading too much into it.

I feel like this is the most obvious reference to. They’re talking about Go go drugs and no go drugs. It’s called Go Go Punch. So this is a Disney reference to pilots doing methamphetamine too. No, I was sitting here. This is just alcohol. But about it was it might have been the same year flight with Denzel Washington where he’s the, the drunk pilot or whatever. So something was in the air at that point. Pun depressing. It was. It was at least 10 years after 9. 11 too. Right. So you’re start. You’re allowed to start having fun with planes again.

Yeah. Because a few years after this it’s just back to the pre mentioned solly. Right. With Tom Hanks crashing his plane in the, in the Hudson or whatever. But yeah, there was something about I guess you know, playing with all these movies at that point just kind of like hey, pilots doing some skag here. You know what else? There’s another one where you realize that the whole plot of this movie essentially turns into an all around the world kind of race. That this is the premise is that anyone can be top class pilot, top class anything.

Like you can be president Matt. If you really put your heart to it. Even you can be president. Right, President Matt. And that’s kind of like the feel here. But as, as this starts to unfold, I’m like oh, this is a Around the world in 80 days kind of mechanic. My mind went right to the Alvin and the Chipmunks movie from I think like the 80s, which is I think one of the better that and, and Rat Race. But I think. And what’s like it’s a Mad Mad, Mad Mad world or whatever that one is. Oh right.

And again cars too. It kind of does it. Right. So it’s, it’s in franchise. It’s been done recently. Although here we are getting. What is, what is this first one? PlayStation 3 Animation. It’s not Pixar level, is it? So yeah, I could see that. PlayStation 3, PlayStation 4. That’s kind of an interesting metric is that when you watch a movie that’s 10, 15 years old, you can actually, you can actually see like, oh, this is to the level of current video games. So as you’re watching this movie and what, what year did these come out? 2014, 2013 and 2014.

So 2013, 2014, you’re watching this like, man, I can’t wait till video games are like this. We’re kind of at that now, right? Like these are like, like sub PlayStation 5 graphics essentially. Yeah. And Fire and Rescue did look notably better as you mentioned. I think maybe all that for us stuff kind of helped. So it seemed a little less blocky. It seemed now more detail in Fire and Rescue. They might have added more detail in prior and Rescue, so at least it looked better. So as grandma sleeps through the movie, she’s, she’s missing better. Everybody sleeps in the movie but the grandkids sitting there clapping because there’s fire and explosions like every 15, 20 minutes.

I’m checking. Yeah, nothing really seems to mention an upgrade in the animation between the two. And it is Disney toon, so it is Disney tunes. Man. It sounds so spiteful when I say that there’s, I think Lilo and Stitch was technically Disney tunes. So you don’t have any built in bias for any of this. Yeah, let’s not crap them completely. But the point is I don’t think it’s quite as well documented or as say, you know, a Cars movie would be because that’s Pixar prime or whatever. So I, I was rolling my heart my eyes so hard when the most predictable, like as soon as the, the movie started out.

Planes 1. As soon as it started out, I was, I think I was already saying to myself, please don’t let the main character be afraid of heights. That would be the dumbest thing ever. It’s the most like predictable, stupid thing you could possibly do. And of course the main character is afraid of heights. Like that’s kind of like this whole thing that he has to work through. So his hero’s journey is one of the, the most infantile in the entire Disney catalog. Like I think objectively that is one good point that you can almost admit, even pro or without bias.

Yeah, I did. When that came up, I wrote I wonder how many birds are afraid of heights. You know, I mean some birds probably, maybe. I don’t know. I think that you said inventor. I think they made children’s books about that, so sure. Also, I think somebody calls Dusty a flat hatter at one point and it was, it’s used in like this derogatory kind of way. And I went down a rabbit hole of like, what the hell is a flat hatter? And I found an old. I want to say it was like a 1930s or 1940s cartoon that was, I think, shown in military pilot school.

And it was describing what a flat hatter is. So a flat hatter, it’s not like a, like an actual title. It’s kind of like a nickname that you would give someone that flies recklessly low and carelessly to show off. And, and that behavior, flying low and flying careless, is called being a flat hatter. And, and apparently the name flat hatter came from an incident where a pilot’s low flight crushed a pedestrian’s hat. And so they started calling it being a flat hatter. But this is, this is the level of deep, specific, like, pilot accurate references that are all over this movie, like the entire movie.

They spent more time into making sure they had all these inside pilot references than maybe they did making sure they had like a coherent plot. Just out of curiosity that Flat had a reference, do you have any idea what year that would have been around or what decade? I want to say it was like 30s or so. Okay, because you’re explaining. The first thing that comes to mind is the, you know, sequence from north by Northwest where the. So the, the, the video was a naval training film called Flat Hatting and It was from 1946. Okay.

Because. Yeah, I’m thinking of what, 1956, 57, north by northwest, Cary Grant getting chased by a crop duster. You know, so was. It doesn’t work out in the skies. He went by. Yeah, he’s partnering in the sky. Of course, that’s. And let me just say this too, before I forget, but the reference to Dusty being a crop duster, man, we are, we are within inches of the first Disney chemtrails movie. If he had just put chemicals, cloud seeding on his wings instead of putting chemicals for pesticide, this would be a chemtrails movie and it’ll be infinitely cooler.

Now, Dusty, this is called cesium. And the, the one quote I did write down, I don’t even remember the context. It must have been the hippie plane or something. Star Child, you’ll be them for Dusty. Or maybe that’s a romantic line you’ll be flying through my mind. I like that. I’m gonna, I’m gonna use that somewhere. Something I did think about where maybe they were not going hardcore in the plane stuff. Are we racing jets against propeller planes. Yeah, I think it, it’s, again, it’s just showing, like children that everyone can be president, which isn’t true, but I think that’s the premise is that because there’s.

There’s just no reality on, you know, on this planet in which this crop dusting plane is outfitted to keep up in even like the top 600, let alone the top six. Yeah. Any jet is ahead, right. And then he’s flying through the Himalayas. I’m like, I can a prop plane make it through the Himalayas? I’m not so sure about that. I could be wrong. Not with that attitude. Yeah, but. And then what? He finds Shangri La and leaves. So speaking of that, this is maybe, I don’t know if I would say this is a pro China movie, but it’s definitely a pro globalist Disney movie.

This one feels like no individual country owns this movie. And it was kind of like it was a Captain Planet approach. Like, everyone gets representation here. I. I keep bringing up cars too. Do you. What, do you think that was doing that as well, or is there a difference? Maybe, but cars too, it was still playing into this dominance of, like, British aristocracy and American, like, like America and Britain were still running the show in Cars one and Cars two and a lot of like the European cars. But in, in this movie in particular, it really is like all across the board, like, every country has equal footing and that there’s no one that’s necessarily in front of or behind the others.

In fact, it’s Britain’s hubris that takes them out in this movie. Or it could be the planes kind of live above it. All right. They’re again, pun depressing. But it’s, you know, it’s 10% of all the vehicles. They can literally get away from everyone very quickly if they have the fuel. Right. So they could be kind of the superheroes of. They. They are, you know, they are kind of superheroes of this Cars verse. They can fly, I guess, but still shoot. Yeah, they can drop a bomb on you. So maybe they should be a hero or a super villain, but.

Yeah, but they, they are, like, exceptional in the Cars universe because cars cannot do the things that the planes can do. So here’s another first, I think, and this doesn’t. It doesn’t sound right. So correct me if you can think of another instance, but we’ve got chupacabras that show up in this movie, but they’re like, you know, like a Cars verse version of a chupacabra. And they siphon fuel so is this the first Disney reference to, like, blood sucking? Oh, you’re gonna have to give me a second on that. Who else sucks blood in animated movies? If we stick it to animated movies, have we seen, like, a vampire at any point of anyone consuming the blood of a good guy, a bad guy consuming the blood of a good guy anywhere in recent Disney movies? Did Princess and the Frog have any of that by chance? Maybe not.

It added the voodoo stuff. Right. So does anyone drink blood in any Disney animated movie? We’ll have to go check Black Cauldron again, but I can’t think of any. I’m sure either there might have been like a drop of blood in a potion or something at some point. But this one is. I mean, Chupacabras, although they’re like attacking like a goat or something, so I think they attack like a cow or a tractor, which makes. Which was like, kind of like perfectly on brand for the Chupacabra reference that’s in this. Yeah. And here, aren’t they, like, like threatening, like you’re going to get recycled as a tractor? Oh, no, that sounds terrible.

Of course, in the next movie, we’re supposed to enjoy these forklifts. That’s pretty much the same thing, Right. There was also a German character with multiple personalities. So here we’ve got. I can’t think of. Has there been an outwardly multiple personality character in Disney movies? Well, we’re going to get to Inside out, which is going to do it in a weird way. Yeah, but that comes after this, right? It comes after this. Yes. Multiple personalities. And I don’t. I don’t count Sword in the Stone because it’s the same characters. Like the final boss fight. They’re staying in character and they’re just changing forms, but I mean, like actually changing complete personalities almost at random, or maybe even by will.

And that’s. And that’s what Franz, who’s this? And it makes sense because he’s an arrow car, which is like half car, half airplane, which is a real thing that. That actually did exist, although it was an American invention, not a German invention. So the fact that they make them German and make the car look kind of German, I guess it’s just like a thematic thing for the movie. Just to argue against my own point, Inside out, it’s. It is one girl without model personality. It’s just all of the emotions are different characters. Right. So that’s not really the same thing.

So, okay, do we do it again? Is it. Is it just a coincidence then? This is the first Disney movie that has anthropomorphic weapons of war. It’s the first Disney movie that has literal blood sucking. And it’s the first Disney movie that has a direct reference to multiple personality disorder. It’s weird if this is gonna get drawn to Marvel as well with the Scarlet Witch. Right, right. They did it first in Planes. It sounds weird to say, but they like all of these themes came up first in. So it does seem like this was an interesting way just to insert some new themes into the Disney vibe.

And these kind of, you know, half garbagey looking movies which are catering to like shell shocked military vets and then grandpa as a shell shocked military vet. Like these Planes one is made for the Operation Iraqi Freedom and Desert Storm crowds. And then planes 2 is probably made for like the Vietnam Korea crowds. Yet they make it explicit. If we want to stick with that Pixar timeline, we’re in the far flung future now. And this, this world of anthropomorphic vehicles have had another World War II. Like they repeated our history, you know, like, but what when you are the weapon of war, don’t you.

Wouldn’t you make like a plane for you to get inside of like I don’t know or like big mech suits that look like humans again, to make it full circle? That would have been fun. Like planes inside of a big mech suit that just walks. Yeah. I should note that these are among the lower rated movies we’ve covered on this podcast. The first one of rotten tomatoes is 26% approval rating. Yeah, no, I see that 39 movies are good. Yeah. The second one actually people liked a lot more still not that much. But 44 on rotten tomatoes it’s like twice as good.

And metacritic48 a little bit better. So that’s better than. Than Rotten Tomatoes rate some of my legit favorite movies. Yeah, I think no, me on Juliet was still lower. So just to throw that one under the bus again. But yeah, this is on the. Definitely on the. The lower ranking of movies. And Cars is still a presence. Planes, I guess it made its money and then mostly got forgotten about. There could be a real nostalgia kick for this with you know, like Zoomers. Right. But maybe. I mean again that just showing that these catered to an older audience.

Here’s one of the jokes or the lines that comes up in Plains one. You know they shot Old Yeller at the end. Right. And when he says that, I was just thinking this does a. A kid in 2014, a 12 year old in 2014. So they’re born in like 98 or 99. Right. Watching this movie, do they know who Old Yeller is outside of like a Simpsons reference to it? Like Old Yeller Lost, y’. All. Yeller was a thing in like the 60s and 70s. Yeah. I was gonna say Fire and Rescue has an extended bit based on the TV show chips, which I thought was great.

When I was three years old, I watched chips. So I thought when that came on that was like. That was actually my favorite part of both of these movies. Probably when they show him in his old TV show. You know, I feel like my theory here, maybe it’s not even just a theory, maybe just pointing out the obvious, but I feel like we’re just proving it over and over and over again. Well, yeah, we can speak of CHIPS parodies, though actually it would have been a few years earlier. Do you remember Tim and Eric’s Corbs, which was their weird CHIPS parody where they’re on the.

The reclined bicycle things or whatever, turn a corner with a bunch of thugs there and they just blow them away, like in a one minute sequence of just shooting them. So that’s my favorite CHIPS parody. But I did enjoy this one as well. But you’re also. I mean, again, how many 12 year olds in 2014 know what the hell chips is? Exactly. I had chips action figures as a child. Okay. Your day. See, this is like that three year gap is really starting to show up right now, man. Yeah, amazing. Okay, so the second movie, I guess we’ll talk a little.

Do you want to say anything real specific about the first one? A couple things. So one is that we hear from the, the mentor. What’s. Who does the name John Cleese. Is John Cleese the mentor in this one? I. He’s in there. Let’s see. State. Was that not Stacy Keys? Yeah. John Cleese, I think is like the British bulldog, the Deep. Yeah. And then Stacy Keach is the mentor. Oh, Dusty’s mentor. The. The mentor is basically like hyping up Dusty and making Dusty feel like, oh, yeah, kid, I’ve seen some things. And Dusty’s like enamored with this guy because he thinks he’s like a war hero.

And you find out that he was only in. In one operation like you mentioned, and his operation was the assault of Kunming. And if you look this up, this is a legit reference. It was 1941 and it was involved this group called the Flying Tigers. And if you look up, they’re like some of the cool John Wayne movie about that. And these Are one of the cool looking micro machines by the way, also dating to like the 80s and 90s with the Flying Tigers. The Flying Tigers there was 10 Japanese bombers that approached the Kunming without fighter escorts.

And then the American volunteer group that were called the Flying Tigers. This is the very first time that they saw combat action near Kunming. And basically Japan had been bombing these Chinese cities for years. But then finally the American Flying Tigers, they start fighting back against the Japanese. So here we have a reference. Before I was like maybe this is a pro China movie. That’s because this is a reference to like when America was fighting on behalf of China when they were protecting China from Japan. This, this like World War I reference. And again like this is such a deep cut for a movie that seems to be for like 7 and 8 year olds.

But grandpa again knows about the John Wayne movie Flying Tigers which is actually a pretty good John Wayne movie if you want to watch one of his war movies. So and I, I found my other notes on the go go pills and the no go pills. So if anyone cares about this, I found it fascinating. So no go pills are Restoril which has a 12 hour restriction on flight operation, something called Sonata which has a four hour restriction and Ambien has a six hour restriction. And then the go go pills were amphetamine and Modafinil and both of those are like wake, they call them wakeful drugs.

And the reason the amphetamine was banned it was in 2002 and it’s called the Tarnac Farm incident. This is a wild read. So if you want to hear about meth up US fighter pilots attacking and killing Canadian allies, look up the Tarnac farm incident from 2002. Well, I do know. I mean you don’t really quite know if it’s going to make you no go or go go sometimes. I remember once I had like intense insomnia and I when they prescribed, I think they prescribe Xanax or something and I took one and it did the opposite of everything it was supposed to do.

I couldn’t go to sleep, I had restless leg syndrome and, and I had more anxiety which I think it’s supposed to do the opposite of all those things. You just got to take more. Yeah, take more, take more. That’s what Paracelsus would have done. There we go. Where was you had mentioned that? Sorry, I had something I was going to mention. I. Oh, I just. Yeah. The Flying Tigers are not military. That’s an interesting distinction too. Right. These are. He was a civilian plane in that case, as military as possible for a civilian, but correct civilian.

So that’s an interesting distinction to take from there. 2014 Island Valor. Is that what that is? Kind of Maybe a little bit, yeah. And then you put John Wayne in there and it looks like reclaimed valor. Right. In 1940, whatever it was, he was a mason. You can give it to him. Yeah, but what do they say? That he had 30 pounds of stool in his colon when he died or something? Isn’t that. That was Elvis too? Probably, yeah. Elvis had some health issues. Oh, yeah. 24 challenges. Because is that peak time of trying to get China down with Hollywood? I think it’s kind of like gone back a little bit in the past few years, but there’s definitely a time like what Matt Damon goes and makes the great wall.

Matt Damon’s in the big budget movie that’s actually a Chinese production. That sor couple of those. I mean, that never stopped though. There was, there was one about Iron Man 3 plugs in. There was a shark movie called Megalodon 2. I think that was basically a joint connection. And there was also a movie about the moon being hollow, which was like a total conspiracy movie. And that one, I think was fully produced by China and it just starred a bunch of American actors in it and it had like, you know, Chinese actors working alongside them. And that one was, I want to say, like four or five years ago.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, obviously it didn’t completely end and I’m sure there’s still, you know, attempts made and what our politicians can’t achieve. The Hollywood producers are, are doing the same thing behind the scenes in their own way. And just like John Cena. John Cena’s doing it in like the wrestling sphere with China. Or he was. Did you have anything else? You said you had a couple things about guards of cards. One, they just did it. Planes on. No, we can, we can go fully on to fire and Rescue 2014. Now what I do like is at least they tried to make a different movie in this case, which is, you know, they could have been very lazy and have another some kind of race thing or something.

Well, Dusty finds out that he’s got a problem with his heart and he has to get a pacemaker. Retire. Right, that’s. Yeah, yeah. He’s getting too old for this. For this. So I was saying there, shy guy, we haven’t cursed yet on this podcast. Should I bother? And I, I, I went for. No, I think a couple of slipped here and there. Oh, no. I mean this particular episode and Toddlers Yeah. The grandparents and toddlers are listening today because that. That’s who Fire and Rescue is for. It is. It is just like. Yeah, like, you know, in the past year, I was like, oh, my joints are getting funny here and there.

I wear a knee brace sometimes, you know. So I’m watching this and. Oh, yep, yep. I’m. I’m turning into grandpa mode watching this. All right. I am a great uncle already, weirdly enough. Twice. And it’s wild that this one is the superior movie to the first one, even though it skews even older in terms of who this is kind of speaking to. But it. It’s. Thematically, it’s better. I think graphically, it’s better, although the sound is probably worse. There’s way more needle drops in this one, and not in a good way. I don’t know if I like any needle drops, but this one sort of tries to really use them.

But I guess that that plays in. If you’re just trying to exploit the nostalgia factor, then needle drops are, like, one of the quickest ways to get there, especially if you can’t do Smell of Vision. I’m looking at the soundtrack, and it looks like they just made a deal with Brad Paisley for this one. Might be part of it. Who’s Brad Paisley? He’s a country artist that plays those Paisley Telecasters sometimes because that’s his name. You’ve seen the Paisley Telecasters. Those are cool. Yeah, they’re reissued notes. In Japan recently, you get a Stratocaster guitar or a Telecaster.

It had, like, blue flowers or. Or pink paisley or black paisley or indigo Paisley. Is country music big in Japan? Hell, no. Vintage guitars are, though. Or reissues of vintage guitars are. So. Yeah, Gibson and not. Not know where they came from. Right, Exactly. Anyway, he. Brad Paisley’s a pretty major country star, so you might not know who he is, but he’s pretty well known. So it looks like they had done a deal with him for the second movie. Let me check the first movie. If he’s involved in that, you have that. It’s worth. If you’re gonna find yourself watching Planes to Fire and Rescue with a.

Like, a mouthful, that it’s worth watching both of the movies because the first one, it has that military industrial complex feel to like it. Like, pretty much all the technology driven in the first movie is all military. And then this one, it’s all retiree. But the fire and rescue part, what they’re doing is that they’re taking that sharp, rugged, like, violent version of the military Part and now they’re, they’re softening it a little bit. They’re smoothing it over with this altruistic use of decommissioned weapons of war. We’re now an old Apache helicopter that used to be blowing up villages.

Well now it’s saving someone that get lost in the middle of the woods or it’s helping put out a fire by dumping water on it in the middle of the woods. So it’s, it’s showing in rapid succession. Right. One, one came out 2013, the next one came out in 2014. So before the weapons of war can sink all the way in and the kid starts wondering like the Disney just anthropomorphize a weapon of war. They give you a chance to be like, oh, but they’re going to be decommissioned and they’re going to turn into things that save people.

So it’s actually good that there’s weapons of war that can sing and dance. I mean the second movie had to be underway once. The first one, they’re not even released a year apart. The first one’s August 2013, August 9th in the states. Second one is July 18th. It’s not a full year. I could see them doing them both at the same time. Knowing exactly that one’s going to be for this crowd and one’s going to be for the older crowd. Let’s go. I guess. So I’m not the, yeah, the I’m looking at production thing and it’s just again it’s just epk crap of them saying nothing.

So it’s, it’s not helpful. But yeah, it was just like we did a year of research on fire and rescue stuff. It’s like, okay, sure, why not? You know, which does mean they were do had to be doing the research while the first one was in production. So they, they had, I guess that shows there was some kind of tandem between the two movies. So the, the entire plot of this movie is that Dusty. Because in the first planes movie Dusty is racing and winning these like world class races. In the second planes movie, Dusty wants to keep racing, but you mentioned his gearbox is out of production and he basically has to get like this pacemaker.

I just had a note here. I had a note. This movie is about a grandpa dying like that. As soon as they brought that theme up it was like that this movie is going to be about how your grandpa dies. Yeah. Or how you retire and then you do that, you know, volunteer job or you spend more time at the church now. Right. Or else you’re gonna die. That’s like, that’s like the reason why all of these things are happening is because you’re old and you’re gonna die. I mean, that’s kind of true. If you don’t keep yourself busy with something, you know, you gotta have.

You gotta have a purpose. So there, there are some weird, weird, weird story decisions in this, the rest of this movie. One of the weirdest ones is that they decide to let the airport hangar burn down instead of destroying a water tower. Or, or vice versa, rather. They’d rather destroy a water tower than let the airport burn down. But it almost seems that it would be infinitely easier to just build a new airport than it would be to construct a new water tower and fill it back up with water. I don’t know. Because if you’re a plane, an airport to you is just a field that you can take off in.

Yeah, I. I don’t have enough engineering knowledge or they’re. They did a year of research, so maybe what they did was the smartest course of action. I. Sure, I guess so. I don’t know if I trust their logic because there’s also. You don’t know. You don’t have to. Just, just throwing that out there. The airport shuts down over a failed inspection. So now the Corn Festival can’t happen. And if the Corn Festival can’t happen, then no one’s going to come to town and spur the local economy. So now we’re getting back into Cars one territory a little bit where you’ve got this like, forgotten old bumpkin town.

And if they don’t have a reason for people to go through it, then it slowly starts to decay. Right. That’s kind of the exact same premise all over again. Yeah. A few other things. I was thinking this in the. I mentioned the hotel being insanely large. The clubs too. I’m like, the worst. Clubs feel like a garage, right? You want a nice intimate club. You don’t want a big garage club with people line dancing. I don’t know. I guess it depends on the night, doesn’t it? I guess just because I did in high school, the girls at my school would always drag all the guys out to go line dancing.

And none of us liked line dancing or country music. Few people dared to ride the mechanical bull, though. Well, I thought this was Atlanta was like southern Texas now. It felt like it. It’s up in Roswell, Alpharetta. So that. That’s not quite Atlanta, but. Yeah. Oh, and the David Costa routine. He’s like, yeah. People say, oh, we like living up there it’s, it’s, it’s. It’s just white. It’s wider up there. It’s more white. So that, that’s Roswell. Alpharetta basically. At least it was 20 at 30 years ago. It might still be. I, I don’t know. We.

I didn’t really drive through that part. Oh, here’s something. Just a. It’s a tangent but having gone back to states and come back, I did find my mental maps had gotten all shuffled around like I recognized all the places. I’m thinking Roswell again, but I couldn’t remember how any of them connected to each other. So it’s just an interesting. You’re not missing out. You’re not missing out on anything necessary. Like I know every street name, but I don’t remember how they connect or anything. So for me I just have a very good sense of direction. So it was kind of like me blowing my mind that I was lost in familiar looking places.

You just Uber everywhere anyways, so who cares? Yeah, you got. Well, my parents car for some reason they, they have the console but they didn’t pay the extra for a gps, which I kept telling them was a terrible decision all week. But yeah, they would probably like cars two more than. Or planes two more than planes one too. Yeah. Yeah, Planes two don’t need no gps. The first one did. So yeah, they’re just out in the forest. You find the fire, you put some stuff on it and you go home and drink some Go goat juice.

Here’s Something that seems 2014 maybe was like right on the cusp before everyone was being like extra careful about words and phrases and, and connotations and stuff. It’s a coy story. I don’t know the Coyote story. I was just gonna say that. That the fact that the Apache helicopter is a Native American and speaks in like a Native American tone and cadence is like a little bit of a chef’s kiss of like 2014. Things are going to start going overboard. Like I don’t know if you could have made that same joke in 2016 or 2018. And maybe this is because everyone’s grandpa is a little bit racist.

So now Plains 2 has to be a little bit racist. I don’t know. I’m checking. Who did the. The who. Who did the boy who did the voice? Yeah, there are a lot of voices in this movie by the way. Oh, and Eric. Eric Estrada from CHIPS did do the voice of the. And it was, it was Terry Hatcher that did the, the Native American voice. Yeah. The. Geez, this. Okay, the first one I was like. You were like, why is Dane Cook top build? The second one’s more insane. By the way, John Ratzberger, as always, even this is not Pixar.

Renee Aboriginal, who is a Odo on Deep Space Nine. He is on Benson and lots of other stuff. Brad Paisley did get to voice a pickup truck. Patrick Warburton’s here. Seinfeld, the Tick, Hal Holbrook. He’s in a Barry Corbin. He was on. Yeah, just tons. Cedric the Entertainer, Jerry Stiller, Fred Willard. This. It’s insane how many people are voicing, like doing two lines in this movie. Maybe they just called in a bunch of favors. I don’t know. Because they wanted to make grandpa proud. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I just read that list of people that not.

I mean, most of them aren’t a listers, but there’s certainly people you recognize and know. You know, maybe on a basis. This I know when I see him. I do think that the reference to chips was kind of ingenious because it was called chops and it was about like choppers and the chops were the chips. And there was also a Howard the Truck reference. I don’t know if you saw it. Oh, I saw that. I was just too busy typing out chips. But yeah, I definitely caught that too. Also. Yeah, I. I haven’t seen it since the 80s and I didn’t.

I. I don’t remember hating it because I was probably like 8 years old. But technically that’s a Disney movie now. Yeah, we go do some Howard Duck. I mean, he shows up in the cut scene. Not cutscene. The credit scene of one of the. More of Guardians, I think. Exactly. Because. Because Howard the Duck is Marvel and Disney owns Marvel. So therefore Disney in some way probably owns Howard the Duck. And I think that there might be a Howard the Duck remake that’s been threatening to come out for like a couple decades now. I’d probably rather have that than the next eight Marvel movies they want to give us.

Well, what they don’t tell you is that it’s going to be Howard the Duck. Civil War. Right. Howard the Duck is at war with himself. I don’t know. I don’t remember much about Howard Duck, to be perfectly honest. Movie or comic book. That would have to be a. Again, did it along when I was a kid and haven’t thought about it much since. Haven’t thought about Chips much. But Chips is like Howard the Duck. You’re like, what’s up with Howard the Duck? Chips is like, okay, it’s motorcycle cops. Now they’re helicopter cops. Easy finished. Easy reference.

I don’t need to remember anything else about chips. Again, it caters to that infantile mindset of. Of military toddlers and old people. Vague memories from my distant past. Oh, yeah, that sort of struck. I like the bell there. And I did look up who did the music halfway through because there was one. One sting somewhere in there. I was like, that sounds like the Back to the Future theme. And I went to see if Alan Silvestri did the music because he use his own music in other films a little bit. It is not. It’s so. It is a ripoff a little bit.

Mark Mancina did the music for both films. He did. Okay. He’s got real credits. Speed. Bad Boys, Twister, Training Day. Yeah, he did Brother Bear. Okay. Anyway, he ripped off the Back to the Future theme a bit in this. I thought that just me. I. I just like that. That. Now there’s a Training Day tie into this movie about weapons and methamphetamine. Yes. We get to tie in Training Day through music. There is a Back to the Future. Buy a ticket and get the thing. And one of them is like a DeLorean about this big. And there’s a.

There’s a talking. What’s the dog’s name? Einstein. You can get the dog, but then there’s too much crap, like, just like towels and hand towels. I’m like, well, I don’t want the hand towel. So I’m just waiting to see if it gets down to where there’s only, like, five tickets left and the car is still there. You buy the ticket, then you pull the letter, and you get whatever letter you get. Right? So, I mean, a keychain would be okay, but. No, I don’t want a hand towel. Planes. I don’t want anything. No plane merch. Thank you.

I mean, I don’t know. I could go with, like, the Native American Apache helicopter character. Okay, there’s one for you. Let’s see. Do I want anything? I want the hippie plane then. What was his name from the first one? I’ll take a hippie plane. What was his name again? Star Child. I’ll take a Star Child then, if I have to, to take something from this movie. You know, there was probably some felonies occurring on that plane. Like, Jimmy Page was flying around with, like, questionable fans. I’ll just leave it at that. Yeah, that does get. In fact, the thing is, Jimmy Page.

Do we have Jimmy Page planes? I mean, with all the history pain. We’re having our wars again. Did we. We got hippies. You know, we had hippies and cars, too, with. With George Garland or whatever. Right. So. And also, in. In the planes universe, there has to be an anthropomorphized Lolita Express. No, I. I want the. I want the 60s drugged out psychedelic film with cars and planes involved. We’ll leave the Lola Express one for the tabloids. The cars and Planes verse. Tabloids. I mean, it would be on brand. There’s already some pretty close Disney connections, at least in conspiracy lore.

Rosemary’s Baby, featuring all cars and planes. That’d be cool. He makes a deal with the devil to become a better flyer. I don’t know. I mean, I feel like that’s kind of the plot line though, right? Like, he. The dusty cuddles up to the military industrial complex because he wants to be famous and feel powerful, and they’re more than happy to bring him into the fold. And then through you watching the movie, especially if you’re 8 years old, you literally are being brought into the fold a little bit. Okay, you’ll have to make the tagline then.

Is planes Disney secret remake of Rosemary’s Baby. There you go. Done. That might be a terrible idea. We’ve got the quote. We’ve got the title. What else do I have on the second one? The one quote I wrote down from the second one was a bumper kisser. I like that term. I’ll probably use in the future. There’s definitely a version of this that someone left on the cutting room table and they screwed up by doing it. But, like, we could have had planes as grumpy old men. Like a Walter Mathau, Jack Lemon version of planes. It’s already there somewhere in the footage.

They could have just edited it that way and it would have made so much more sense. Yeah, or. Or the one what’s out at Sea. That one’s fun, too, that you do. That one. That would make sense. Yeah. Yeah. Do they say boat Reynolds. That was. That was a good one for grandpa. Is there a Disney Boats? I don’t think they got to the boats, but, you know, give them a few minutes when they want to make some more money. Next time a car comes out, I’ll get chased by a few boats, probably. You know what else is there, though? Bikes.

I think boats would come for a bike. Spacecraft. But then you’re two up. Then you do a slight. That’s Buzz Lightyear now, isn’t it? So. Well, they get real lonely. Like, how many. How Many div. If you’re a spacecraft, how many other spacecrafts are you gonna see in your lifetime? Like. Yeah, that’d be a really grim Disney movie. Let’s see, what else did. I think I had one more thing. Oh, my one thought. Are there no machine boxes, machine shops to make a gearbox? I mean, it seems like dust season with a lot of mechanics. No one has the tiny little hands you need.

It almost feels like they’ve got a finite amount of resources before the humans died out, so they have to go with whatever they got to work with. That could be the case. I was just thinking there can you at high level things, which Dusty is at can you machine shop stuff? I don’t know. Or everyone’s forgotten how to do it. It’s like, you know, the whole, like fixing a very old computer be difficult if no one knows how it works anymore or idiocracy where you try and what feed Gatorade to the crops? Exactly. It’s. Oh, what is the tagline that makes them think it’s.

It’s great for that? I don’t remember. It’s been a little while since I watched. Yeah, it’s got electrolytes. There we go. I knew there was something there. What else you got on Fire and Rescue then I think if, if you want to indoctrinate your kid into joining the military, maybe the Air Force in particular, this is a great one two movie combo. But it also seems like it’s, it doesn’t have that evergreen feel to it. So every decade that slips by before you decide to watch Planes one and two, the less and less it’s going to feel relevant.

So I guess in like another 10 years this really is going to be a movie for like great great grandpa and, and, and actual babies that can’t understand the movie at all. And even then something else. Cars won’t even work the same way. We won’t have forest fires. We’re gonna, we’re gonna transcend that in the next 10 years. We want a forest anymore. Yeah, there you go. I mean, I, I, you know, if you don’t have a forest, you can have a forest fire. So yeah, there we go. Problem solved. But no, I have to admit I was coming a little bit.

Dreading like, oh, even with two movies, I was like, oh my God, are we gonna have anything to talk about? Which, which we did. We went over an hour. Good for us. So. Or, or you are bored out of your mind if you’re still listening and not good for us. Well, I don’t know the ad revenue still comes in regardless, so whatever. There we go. Doesn’t matter. Who cares if it’s on brand? You might have even fallen asleep towards the second half of this as we got into planes too. Just waking up now. There we go.

So a nice restful movie to take a nap to. There we go. Please put your chair in and table and upright position. Yeah, I mean this really doesn’t make sense in a theater, right? It’s just a full napping theater. In that case, kids are sleeping. Literally every theater. For me, no matter what movie it is, that is me in every single movie theater. It’s more and more. It’s. It is happening more and more as I’m turning into grumpy old grandma. This happened when I was like 13 too though. This has just always been something. No, I remember the first movie I fell asleep in was the Adventures of 1010, which was because I went to see it after work and I was just sleepy.

But yeah, Tintin’s not among the most action packed of all animations. But I’m just saying it’s not the movie’s fault I fell asleep. It’s because I went to the 9:30 showing after a full day of work. So. Well, even if you’re on meth, if you fall asleep in planes too, I think that it’s still the movie’s fault. Okay, if you. Hey, if you fall asleep on meth, that, that makes. That makes Fire and Rescue like an amazing no go pill, right? Well, if people want to want to eat more, go go pills and no go pills of conspiracy, I guess.

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There was something you just posted I needed to see. Have you not seen Faces of Death before? Oh, I’ve seen those. I haven’t seen. You’re under a dock on it. Okay, well, so I highly recommend in this order, Planes one, Faces of Death and Then Planes two with the kids with the grandkids. My end. I do other podcasting over@podcastio.podcast.org Time Enough Podcast does the Twilight Zone. We just finished doing the TV show Severance over at Imprisoned in Prison. That’s the name of a podcast. Oh, and this is Fun Films and Filth. We, I think I’ve mentioned before, we’re doing the top 100 list of good movies, top hundred list of bad movies.

We’re at the midpoint, so we’re like, why don’t we give ourselves a break? So now we’re going to do all the Fast and Furious movies and it’s going to be. Have the name change to Fast Films and Furious cast for a few months. So that’s you getting a break is having to watch all the Fast and Furious movies. Yeah. Okay, well, I’ll get back to you how that goes because I’ve only seen the first two, so. Oh, and Hobbs and Shaw. I saw Hobbs and Shaw. So. Ever see Hobbs and Shaw? Is that another Fast and Furious movie? Yeah, it’s the one where Vin Diesel and.

And Rock, the Dwayne Johnson won’t work together anymore, so Rock has to be in a different movie with Jason Statham. And it came out in like in Japan, at least it might have been a little earlier in space, but it came out like January 2020. And the plot is about like a. A virus that like, cannot be released or something. So it’s like a bioterrorism movie and that came out in Japan in January 2020. So that’s weird. Was it predictive programming? Is that what that was? Maybe. I’ll get back to you when I watch it again.

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