➡ The text discusses a Disney movie that didn’t perform well, with poor singing and unimpressive musical numbers. The hosts of the Occult Disney podcast also talk about the end of hand-drawn Disney animation and the financial failure of the movie. They suggest that the movie could have been improved with a UFO scene or a more fantastical storyline. The hosts also discuss the trend of western movies and their lack of appeal to younger audiences.
➡ The text discusses a shift in movie trends, from superhero films to westerns and animal adventure films. The author also shares personal experiences with movie theaters, including sneaking into films and watching movies in different languages. They also discuss the decline of cinema and their preference for home viewing. Finally, they review the Disney film “Home on the Range,” highlighting a musical number as the film’s peak.
➡ The text discusses the author’s thoughts on Disney movies, particularly focusing on the use of villain songs and the shift from hand-drawn to digital animation. The author also reflects on the cultural significance of Disney, suggesting that the company’s changes mirror broader shifts in American society. They also share personal experiences related to the settings of these films, such as time spent in Texas and New York. Lastly, they mention their diverse reading interests, which include history, celebrity autobiographies, and pop culture analysis.
➡ The text discusses a movie plot where a character named Alameda Slim steals cattle from farms, causing them to go bankrupt. He then buys these farms at a low price with the money he made from selling the stolen cattle. The movie represents the takeover of small farms by large corporations, symbolizing the shift from traditional farming to large-scale factory farming. The text also mentions some behind-the-scenes details about the movie’s production and suggests that the movie could be seen as a critique of old American values.
➡ The speaker discusses a variety of topics, including the Japanese language, weather warnings in Japan, and their experiences with earthquakes. They also talk about their work at Disney and how emergency management strategies often lean towards worst-case scenarios to spur the economy and prepare people for potential disasters. The speaker also mentions the Japanese Prime Minister stepping down and speculates about potential political motivations. Lastly, they discuss their experiences with American earthquakes and the production of Disney movies.
➡ The woman in the story treats her farm animals as friends rather than livestock, which leads to financial problems. Despite advice to sell some animals, she refuses, leading to the bank repossessing her farm. The story also discusses the cultural significance of the cowboy in American history, suggesting it’s a symbol of American culture, despite being far removed from modern life.
➡ The speaker shares various experiences and thoughts, including a comparison of cowboy symbolism to a meat processor, a Boy Scout hike in New Mexico, his collection of hats, and his attempt to emulate Jack Kerouac’s style. He also discusses his time in a punk band, the music industry’s exploitative nature, and a movie featuring a one-legged rabbit shaman and hypnotizing cows.
➡ The text discusses a Twilight Zone episode featuring Lee Marvin, where a marshal kills a man and is dared to visit the grave at midnight. It also talks about a Disney movie where the government is portrayed as the villain, taking land from farmers and enforcing bank repossessions. The text also mentions Disney World’s size and its unique status within Florida, comparing it to Disneyland and other international Disney parks. Lastly, it discusses Epcot’s purpose of introducing Americans to different cultures.
➡ The text discusses a visit to Epcot, a theme park in Orlando, and the unique experiences it offers, such as drinking beer without a club membership and enjoying margaritas. It also mentions a movie where the government is portrayed as the villain, and a horse character who undermines his own community. The text also discusses the idea that someone always has it worse, and how this can be both empowering and toxic. Lastly, it questions the purpose of raising pigs if not for resale.
➡ The text discusses various farm-related topics, including the purpose of pigs and bulls on a farm, and shares a story about a boy scout trip where a cow chased a kid. It also mentions a comic about the Illuminati and promotes various products from Paranoid American, including propaganda packs and sticker sheets. The text ends with a rap verse about overcoming hate and achieving success.

There’s some other really deep inside cuts here, like again, Disney showing how they’re circling the drain and also how America’s circling the drain. But even some of the musical numbers start with Jennifer Tilly’s character, the cow singing. Her singing is so bad that vultures will start to circle them because they think they’re about to die. That’s like the running gag is that she sings so bad she sounds like she’s dying as opposed to singing. But also like, some of these musical numbers are not great. And they were sort of showing the vultures circling in that the.

I guess the seats were empty when they were showing some of these, or people weren’t going out and suggesting it because it just really wasn’t worth suggesting. So I don’t know, some self aware, maybe some like self fulfilling prophecies through the movie that actually play out in the real world. Ask about Illuminati sister charging me up b ducks. Is it Disney mind control? Is this Mkochet deluxe? I call this man gonna shut on a star being your plan Pinocchio seeks for no pleasure island where traffickers need your sporting mind captain hook a lost boy Neverland saving kids from Peter Pans to sons me no piss survived the barracuda and that nobody needs no one no I never took another breath prince the angel of death has come we go from real to me go this day open me a roll and no more view I go business ask about to man I say I go business teacher go to everybody a co business up on a star a copiousness nobody a new Mandez.

Howdy partners. Welcome to the Occult Disney podcast. It’s where we go rooting, tooting and rounding up all of them Disney movies to find out what secrets lie inside. Is Matt here? Hi, Thomas, how are you? We’re also going to be talking about some agricultural sacrificial rituals. Okay. I was kind of. Yeah. Yep, yep. Lots of things today. It’s home on the range. I thought I about grabbing my hummingbird guitar and singing it, but then I was like, that’s a really bad idea. So it didn’t happen. I like the idea of it. How about that? The idea is good.

The idea is good. The execution of it’s not good. Sometimes you realize that when you’re doing a podcast. Like, I got a good idea, but I’m going to be embarrassed doing it and it’s going to sound like crap on the podcast, so. And I’m not sure if these mics pick up music well, so. Because when you make weird sound effects with your mouth. They sometimes, you know, because they’re being nice, like, take it out. Right. So quick doses of cringe can work fairly well, but the longer it goes on, unless you’re trying to Andy Kaufman it.

But even Andy Kaufman didn’t really get a lot of recognition until after he was gone. Right. If you’re comfortable with that, then, yeah. Go ham. Yeah. I always love the. The doppelganger comedians because the. His buddy still goes around doing Kaufman sometimes. Right. There was, like, Gallagher’s brother. There might be more than one get. There might be three gallaghers row, you know, or more. You know, the. Yeah. Gallagher was one of the original celebrity clones before Jamie Foxx did it, before anyone, before Joe Biden even had a clone. Right. My first go to, probably because my wife likes her, but, yeah.

But, yeah, home on the range is the last. Basically, this is the end of the hand drawn Disney animated studio. They pop back up a few years later and instantly, like, disappear again. So this is the end of the cap system that we started talking about around Oliver and company time or whatever it was. So I assume that since this is the last one, it printed money and it was just wildly successful. And Disney said, we need to shut off this money faucet. It was. Yeah, that’s right. They were like, this is. I was just hearing about how Miyazaki for Ghibli merchandise.

I think this is no longer the case. Or maybe it is, but it’s like, no, we make $10 million from our merchandise anymore. We sour the brand, and we make crap. Right? If we keep a cap on our merchandise, then it will be good merchandise, which is kind of weird. I mean, from an american perspective, that’s weird, right? But you appreciate purity, but that’s not what Disney’s doing here. They spent 100 million on this movie. It made worldwide, 145. Once you factor in marketing, that does make it a flop. Printing money. Just not a lot of it.

Just not a lot of it. Yeah. No, they did not get a company trip from this one. I’m guessing maybe they got a trip to the range. And, like, right off the bat, it doesn’t seem like it has any breakout happy meal toys. Like, what is it gonna be? A horse, a cow? Some kids. Some kids are dumb. That’ll entertain them. You know what I think? A toy of the rabbit. Why not? Right? But I’m. But I just mean, if you compare this to, like, a freaking buzz lightyear or a woody or. And almost any other Disney property, to be honest, just because they’re they’re farm animals, which isn’t a bad thing, but I don’t know if it has the star power, especially compared to, like, the voice cast that this movie had.

It almost seemed like a missed opportunity to really put all these people to work doing something that was more supernatural, fantastical, you know, magical. Yeah, it’s, like, answered. Most people would probably answer the question, would you like to see Roseanne Barr, Judy Dench, and Jennifer Tilly voicing cows? Honestly? I’ll think about that for a second. I think that’s a hard no for most people. Gooding junior. And, yeah, there’s a lot. Oh, my other question was, do you want to see Randy Quaid as a yodeling villain? Which I think most people would answer yes to. Oh, what? I mean, this is just Uncle Eddie’s side job.

This is where the money actually came from, though, man. I watched the vacation movies, like, an amazing number of times, so I was in on that, you know, screaming at Independence day, screaming at celebrity wacky aliens. There’s nothing this guy can’t do except for maybe. Yeah, so, yeah, I mean, this did. Like, it’s weird because we just watched a couple of the ones that were basically direct to video, but they put them in the theaters anyway. Like, teachers pet, jungle book two. It’s like, are these movies you would just sit your kids in front of as a babysitter? Home on the range? I’m pretty much like.

I think it is so, like, I had. Yeah. Like, this felt longer than Princess Mononoke to me, somehow, even though it’s half the length. Right. This one’s a minute and 15, which isn’t so bad compared to all different things. The biggest thing it was missing for me was just a freaking UFO. If they just had a single UFO abduct a cow in the background, it would have just made this movie so much better to just plant that seed. But they. They don’t do that. That helps. Spice world. I said Spice world for a different podcast where the girls have to pee, so they get off their bus, go in the woods, and meet a UFO.

And the aliens went there. You know, it moves without that scene. Yeah, without that scene. Because one of my co hosts was like, I. He had just watched it for the first time. He’s like, I always thought this was a Sci-Fi because I had seen that scene. I mean, technically, it is. Yeah. There is a weird thing. Chief offender, great movie. But chief Offender is back to the future three, right? Where all of these filmmakers in the eighties and nineties and maybe this is kind of the tail end of it was like, you know what? Everybody wants a western.

And I know in the eighties I didn’t want a western. Like when Back to Future three came out, it’s like, well, you just showed me, like, crazy 2015 and Biff Tan in 1985, and now we’re just going to go hang out with cowboys. What? I think that this was a tug towards our parents heartstrings, though. Like, this was weapon. Like, Disney using weaponized nostalgia and other people used like, weaponizing the fact that you had like, all these John Wayne sort of westerns that they grew up with. So it might have been like, hey, grandpa, take your, you know, hey, dad, take your kid to the movie or something and see this.

But, yeah, it didn’t, it didn’t have the same hit, although. What? Wow. Are you saying Wild, Wild west wasn’t an amazing breakout role for everyone involved? Well, that, the great thing about that movie, and I’m not being ironic on this, is, I forget the producer’s name, but for years he’d been trying to put a giant robot spider into a movie. He wanted Superman to fight a giant robot spider and a few other things. And finally he finally got his giant robot spider in Wild, Wild west. And somehow that makes me really happy about that movie. But there was, there was definitely a resurgence of western, and I think that’s probably what makes the most sense is that, like, that generation’s parents or grandparents found it, you know, howdy Doody was a freaking cowboy, right? Maybe ten year olds of 2024 hate superheroes.

That could be the case. And I just don’t know. That’s. So why are we watching the super lame? Yeah, so, I mean, that could be the case. I wouldn’t know. But you have any good movies about just cows and horses? Come on. Actually, they’ll be kind of rare, right? All of a sudden, I. Kids are going to be more familiar with superheroes than they will with just regular livestock. Come on, Dad. I don’t want to see Captain America. Let’s see the real Captain America. And Horizon, an american saga, chapter one starring Kevin Costner. Because that’s what the kids want to see, right? That and home on the range.

I don’t know, I’m just guessing the generational flip could happen. As I was talking about teachers pet last week, my wife and I keep saying my daughter, shouldn’t you study less? Why don’t you go do something? I don’t know what. You want to go to summer school? Why? So, you know, generational gaps, man. Well, there was a couple other movies, too, that aside from the western that right around this time, or maybe like the decade preceding it, you’ve got these movies about animals going off on adventures on their own in a human world, but. And they can telepathically talk or they can somehow communicate.

So you had, like, homeward bound series. You had, like, the Milo and Otis kind of series. There was a whole, like, slew of these. And I think that this movie kind of plays on that same thing where they run away from the farm, and then now they are the main characters. The humans are just back at home worried for them. But the humans really have no role in the, in the story itself. I saw Homeward bound two in the theater, and I’d like to explain why. Because we were 17 at the time, so not. Or 16, not quite old enough to buy r rate a movie ticket.

So we went to see army of darkness, but our friend and his dad had already gone in because we were running a little late, I guess. So we bought tickets for Homeward bound two. Then they caught us. And they didn’t kick us out of the theater. They made us watch Homeward bound two. The theater or the parents? The theater. They’re, like, going there where we’re screening Homer bound to. Because that’s what your tickets have. You think you just kick the teenagers out? You know, I mean, now I’m like, why didn’t they just kick us out of the theater for that? But they made us watch homeward bound, too, which I guess maybe that’s its own punishment in a way, especially when you’re coming for army of darkness.

The, the trick that I remember, if we’re on a tangent really quick, but I remember, like, when Titanic came out and Titanic was, what, like a three hour movie or something so you could buy a ticket, tied Titanic, and then end up sneaking into two other movies and then just leave around the time Titanic was ending. And no one would be the wiser. Not even close. Ah, I saw Titanic in the theater, like, four times. But each time I saw Titanic, so I wouldn’t wish on anyone. Well, no, this is my senior year of high school, and all the girls want to see Titanic.

So you could take girls Titanic easily. Okay, the theater that many times. You know, most people aren’t aware of this, but before, say, like psycho, you know, before the early sixties, you would just buy a ticket and walk in. You might go in at the middle of the movie, and then you’d wait for it to end, and then you’d see the first half or something like that. So I’d wonder if they. Well, I guess they didn’t have theater hopping because I was generally one theater at the time. But that’s how you get around it, I gotta say.

And I realize that I might be in, like, a weird fringe minority on this, but, like, I hate the movies. I hate the cinema, the whole experience. I’ve just never. I don’t think I’ve ever really truly liked it. It either puts me to sleep or it’s just inconvenient at best. It’s an absolute nuisance at worst, to the point where, like, it ruins movies for me. I don’t know. I. And I realize how sacrilege that would be for especially, like, film aficionados and I. Even directors that are like, you’ve never seen the movie unless you’ve seen it in this exact ratio on this exact film projector and this sound treatment in a big, empty, large room.

I don’t know. I don’t know if I believe any of that. And I don’t mind that the cinema is dying in its current form. I don’t mind it. You’re on your team with my mom. I still go to the movie. You’ve actually said before, to be honest. But I still hit the movies maybe once a month. As I become an older fart. I do start to have to fight the specter of sleep sometimes, especially because in Japan, the Late show is cheaper. So, you know, you try and go to the Late show if you can. The problem this week is I think there’s nothing worth seeing that’s showing.

Let’s see what’s showing in the japanese toho cinema this week. I guess you don’t have to say japanese if you just said, do you mostly just look for american movies or do you watch a decent amount of, like, straight up japanese movies? No, because they’re just in straight up japanese with no subtitles, which I. I’ve seen a few kids movies that way because I took kids to see them. But that’s. I guess that makes sense. Yeah. They don’t, by default, show subtitles for japanese movies in Japan. Yeah, the fall guy is just now showing in Japan.

I think that came out, like, six months ago. In America. You can see the Garfield movie in Japanese. No subtitles. Inside out, too. And japanese, no subtitles. Twisters with subtitles. I don’t want to see that, though. Something called Mononoke. I guess that’s just be stun. Yeah. Deadpool and Wolverine is now just dubbed. That’s interesting. I did see that a few weeks ago, but that I might actually be interested in seeing just straight up in Japanese the whole movie. That could be fun, actually. That could actually be really fun. But here’s what I would see if I were going to go right now.

This is a very low, lowly reviewed movie called what if Shogun Isu Tokugawa was to become the prime minister? That’s the title of the movie. It takes place in 2020, and as the japanese government completely fails in handling the pandemic, they get historical holograms of all the most prominent figures in japanese history. So, you know, the guy that started the whole Edo period becomes the new prime minister in hologram form. So that’s. That’s interesting from a, you know, from our perspective, I like that. Like a hollow president style. Right, right. But it’s a dumb comedy, so that’s layered on top of it.

So I don’t. Or maybe it’s really. No, it can’t be serious. I did see the trailer play before Deadpool and Wolverine. So anyway, yeah, so home on the range I would not have seen in the theater. Anyway, one, because I was, when this came out, I was 25. So, yeah, this was nothing. I might see the Pixar, but I’m not going to see this. You know, also, it was my first year in Japan, and this was definitely only playing dubbed. If you live in Tokyo, I guess you could probably see, like, Disney movies with subtitles, but if you don’t live in Tokyo or Osaka, that’s not happening.

You know, it was the first time that I’ve seen this movie. I thought that I might have seen it, but no, it must have been like one of the homeward bounds. It might be the first time anyone has seen this movie because this is considered, like, one of the biggest flops in Disneydom, even though I guess it did make more in his budget technically. So I want to say it’s a. It’s a serviceable movie, but, yeah, I guess the way that you phrased it, I can drop that now that it does somehow feel longer than Mononoke, which is a long movie by any standard.

And that one moved along faster just because I was so much more engaged. This movie. The absolute peak is Randy Quaid’s musical number that turns into, like, a psychedelic Pink Floyd laser light show. That’s the take. That’s my takeaway from this movie. Take that out. Keep that. The rest can. Yeah, that is the absolute peak of the movie. And this is from someone that just usually despises musicals. I usually don’t like the musical numbers in any of them, and I don’t. I can’t tell if it’s. That’s. This is the one redeeming quality of the movie, or it just is, like, objectively a really great scene I want to lean towards objectively.

It’s really, really cool. It doesn’t sound bad. It doesn’t go on too long. It doesn’t even need to be seen in context. Like, you don’t even need to know. Like, I say, take it out and have it, you know? Yeah, dude. Like, this. This song could exist. And if this were the trailer for home on the range, I feel like they probably would have gotten more people showing up if that. If all they said was like, come watch home on the range. And then they played the musical number and then it just said, you know, this summer or whatever, whenever the hell it premiered, that probably would have frozen and the Lion King.

So Disney does that sometimes. The Lion King was just a circle of life song. That was the trailer. Frozen was just let it go. I remember seeing it because my friend and I were there. I’m like, I saw the frozen trailer. Just let it go. I’m like, this Broadway crap. I don’t want to see this movie, which, honestly, I did want to see Frozen. But in that case, the trailer made me think I did not want to see frozen. So. And I get, I guess, dipping my toe a little bit into the whole occult decode of this episode.

It is a little bit appropriate that this is the last sort of Disney movie of its kind with the hand drawn animation for a long time. And I would. I guess we could both easily argue this is the last time that they did it this way, because even when they started doing hand drawn, they had a completely different digital workflow and process because it was so much more into the future. I think it was princess and the Frog. Yeah. Five years. They dismantled, like I said, they dismantled their cap system. They had to rebuild something new.

Although I will say for the villain songs, you don’t need to watch this movie because nightmare, before Christmas had an equally good villain song. Right. I forgot the name. I should remember it, but I don’t. And then Princess and the Frog, I think I remember that one, has a pretty good villain. Yeah, that’s probably the best part of that movie, too, is the villain song. Yeah, but kind of I. Man, Hercules, they do own the villains. That’s a new theme that I don’t think we’ve picked up on, where movies were the highlight of the movie is the villain song in a Disney movie because the old evil queen Maleficent, they don’t get songs in the.

In the classic Disney movies, right. I don’t believe, man. I mean, Ursula. Ursula. You’re not gonna watch it again? Yeah, maybe. I mean, I was just thinking maybe Ursula is the first big villain song. Does Jafar get one? Jafar doesn’t sing one, but he gets his own song, I believe. Yeah. Yeah. Scar doesn’t get one. I’m pretty. No, Scar gets one, I think. But it’s not a standout, if I remember. But, yeah, I guess it’s with the Renaissance is where they really start kicking in. Well, the rescuers. Okay. I guess villain songs are a pretty long tradition.

Coming next, occult Disney soundtrack decodes. Well, hey, I don’t remember if I mentioned it, but I’ve been eyeing the Disney villains tarot deck at the nearby bookstore. So I thought maybe I should start pulling those out in the middle of episodes and doing Disney villain tarot readings. Definitely. Good. Yeah, I think I just talked myself into buying it, especially since I’m on air. Just saying that. Oh, go ahead. So some of the. Well, I was going to say, too, to finish that thought. It’s appropriate that this is the last movie of its kind, even inside Disney, because at this point, Disney is like a strong face of american culture.

And this movie, essentially, and you were saying before that you didn’t really understand, like, what the motivation or the plot or any, like, ultimate resolution was. Well, this whole entire movie is about the disintegration of american core values and just being replaced by just straight up commodities and. And robber barons and bankers and that this being the last time that we see any good old hand drawn american, Purdue probably wasn’t produced all entirely in America, by the way, is probably shopped out in some places, I’m assuming. But, like, good old american hand drawn Disney animation, like, not only is that dying, as also emphasized by that mid century modern look, which is a distinctly american style cartoon, right? This is like Hanna Barbera or even like Looney Tunes style.

I started wondering why Warner Brothers wasn’t suing them in the middle of this movie, to be honest. You stole our mat paintings. It makes such a great analogy, though, that that was like, you know, golden era. What, like a post World War two. So forties, fifties, golden age America cartoon style also, it takes place around that time. I mean, I know that it’s like a western thing, but because that mid century modern, it’s essentially like 19th, maybe early mid 20th century. So this movie flops. The country flops. Like it’s, it’s a perfect sort of telltale for exactly what Disney saw coming for, like, the country as a whole, not just itself as a company, but the entire country that was about to go through it.

Yeah, I guess here’s one of the big disconnects for me is like, maybe a personal thing. One, I generally don’t want to go for a western. There are some westerns I like a lot, but generally that’s not appealing to me. I do like reading history. I’ve read a lot of history of that period. So I’m sitting here. Home on the range is kind of in fantasyland, old west. But I’m like, was this Kansas? That’s the state song. Is this Montana where they’re, you know, having all the posses and roundabouts and a, you know, getting squatters off their land? Is this Texas? You know, it’s like, is this the 1880s? Is this the 1860s? That definitely changes things.

Again, back to the future. Three is at least nice enough to tell you that’s 1885 in Hill Valley, right? Yeah, they don’t, they don’t state it, but it does, it does seem like it’s probably like anytime between 1860s and 1960s. And in fact, it might be a combination of both of those. Like, if you drove 20 miles in any direction in this particular world of on the range, that you could probably end up in sort of like a fifties neighborhood. Like, it seems like they kind of coexist. Yeah. So by the way, the most recent book I read, which I will recommend if people want to know what was going down in the old west.

This one, I think, basically is Montana, Wyoming focused. That gets around everywhere. Cattle kingdom. The hidden History of the cowboy west by Christopher Knowlton was a pretty good read. So I’m also looking back at how bizarre my reading list because the books I read before that was a book about the history of Siskel and Ebert, Patrick Stewart’s autobiography, Batman and the rise of nerd culture, and one of Carrie Fisher’s books. So kind of that, that’s what Matt reads these days. Just a melting pot of great minds. Yeah, that’s, there you go. Have you spent some time on the range? We’re both east coasters, so.

Well, I mean, yeah, I mean, I grew up in upstate New York, so not necessarily a range, but like, all my parents, friends and parents, like hunting deer and eating venison was kind of like a normal thing. That wasn’t even like a hunter culture. That was just like how most people got a decent amount of food for long periods of time. And then when I got stationed in the military to Texas, I got to learn a whole bunch of them, all cow ranchers and I guess versions of kind of like, Texas redneck, although spent a lot of time in San Antonio, which I always heard kind of referred to as, like, the city slicker version of Texas.

Like, everyone in San Antonio had, like, new polished boots, kind of like the equivalent of skateboarders, but, like, there’s. Their skateboards have no marks on them on, like, the trucks are on the actual board itself. So that’s the version of a San Antonio cowboy. Yeah, I’ve been to San Antonio once, and I remember eating fancy food and seeing the alibo. Right, of course. But, yeah, I’m just bringing up my only experience in this part of the world, I guess, is, well, two, when I was 1314, we took a car trip to New Mexico to do the Belmont scout ranch.

So you go there, then you just walk around in the woods for two weeks and. Yeah, so, I mean, I guess that’s fun. I don’t know. But, yeah, we came through San Antonio, and then I have spent a little time in Wyoming. I visited a girlfriend up there 20 years ago. Yee haul. My version of being a cowboy, I guess because I didn’t really grow up with westerns or I didn’t care about them as much either. But there was this show called hey, dude. And I feel like that was probably the closest that I ever would have gotten into being a cowboy, which is not to say very much.

This might have been after you stopped caring about shows on Nickelodeon. I do remember hearing the name, but, yeah. Oh, by the way, when I went to Wyoming, I ate it. Dick Cheney’s favorite restaurant. Apparently that was their marketing strategy. This is Dick Cheney’s favorite restaurant. It was off season, so everything was like, half price. That was. Yeah. Asterisk when he’s in Wyoming. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Uh, you can eat human meat here as he’s doing the most dangerous thing. Well, I think I was eating buffalo steak or something there. Yeah. Because it’s Wyoming. Wyoming. Eat the buffalo.

Yeah. So I thought it was buffalo. Yeah, you buffalo. That’s right. Um, so, you know, I guess one, if the west is in your blood, maybe this is. This is a little better. You know, grandpa, who. Who really wants some Roy Rogers gets? You know, our villain is kind of dressed up like Roy Rogers or Gene Autry. None of this movie is any of the cool stuff about the wild west. Like, this is just about farm animals that are being sold to another farm and they don’t want to get auctioned off and for whatever reason. And this is the part where the logic kind of breaks down, unless you take the occult interpretation of the whole thing or, like, the esoteric, like, overlying meaning, which is just about America’s, like, resistance to change and then being forced to go through it and banks taking over, because the essential premise of this movie, I guess, which would be a good place to start.

So here, rewind. Here’s where we’re really starting now. Like, the whole premise of this movie is that it’s no longer a sustainable practice to kind of be a farmer anymore or just focus completely in agriculture. The banks are coming through and they’re taking over. They’re repossessing everybody’s land and they’re going up to these public auctions. And, like, the nefarious back plot, is that the reason that a lot of these farms are going out of business, in this Disney plot line at least, is that there’s this guy that’s going around stealing everything, Alameda Slim, and that he basically is going onto people’s farms somehow stealing all of their cattle.

And then when they go broke and have to auction their land, he comes in with the money he made from stealing cattle, presumably, and he buys the farms for pennies on the dollar. And his idea is to just completely buy up all the different farmland. Like he’s. He’s Monsanto, essentially. I was about to say, my note here was Monsanto Slim. Yeah, Monsanto Slim. Tyson Slim. Like, that’s kind of what this guy like in a very, very real way. It’s what he represents, even to the point where he is leveraging government ineptitude to enact this whole plan.

And in some extreme cases, he even using government funds in order to, like, make all of this happen for himself. So here you’ve got, you know, like, a straight up corporation that is taking over and turning all of the regular farms into these big, scaled up factory farms. It’s really the underlying message of this entire movie. Yeah, yeah, for sure it is. You know, like Disney is used to be. It’s interesting they take that tax since Disney used to be in bed with Monsanto, you know, like, sexually. Right. They were in Disneyland. They were in them.

It’s not necessarily the bad guys, though. I don’t. I don’t see it as Disney showing it’s the bad guys. If anything, this could be just another magical spell of like, hey, kids, check it out. The old west is lame. The old american value system is lame. You know, old shit like chicks and old cows and ladies. It’s all lame. Get with the times. Everyone’s become a banker now. Like, get on board. We’re screwing the Americans. Get on board. And there’s like a bunch of bankers and like a limo and it zooms off that. I mean, I, it’s not necessarily Disney showing you like a warning sign, it’s them casting a spell that’s just like, look how lame old american culture is.

Let’s just kill it already. Let’s bring it out into the back of the shed and just take it out of its misery. Well, the cattle kingdom book again, is kind of the antidote to that, I guess, because that is about the bankers destroying the way of life very nicely, keeping in mind that any historical book is one person’s perspective of that. So, yeah, I was sitting here thinking, why not take it a little farther? This here’s me plussing up the movie in a couple ways. One, that you, maybe you could make this like Disney’s animal farm.

I mean, there is a good animal farm animation already, but hey, here, you could do it. Disney’s animal farm here. That could be kind of fun. Based in the west. Also, does Disney have any big ip that might fit this, like a mountain, like a big thunder railroad that has now that has a story that has a banker behind it and stuff, you know, in the backstory for people who want to read crap on the website before they go to Disneyland. But Big Thunder Mountain, why not use that? You know, people know that you have. And they’re making the, this is when they’re doing mission to Mars and the Eddie Murphy haunted mansion.

And there’s a train they pulled. They integrate a train as well as like, the big plot resolution in this movie. So it could have taken place on Thunder Mountain. And I guess that actually would have made the Thunder Mountain ride lamer. You know what I mean? It would have made the movie cooler. It would have made the ride lamer. But did Eddie Murphy really make the haunted mansion Lamer? No, no, no, definitely not. But putting Jennifer Tilley and Roseanne cows somewhere in the line on the way to Thunder Mountain somehow makes it feel less thrilling. So I don’t know if they would have gotten any of, like, the Thunder Mountain coolness rubbed off on the movie.

If anything, it would have polluted the Thunder Mountainous. Yeah, I guess this movie maybe had a little bit of too many cooks in the kitchen. Like, this is maybe the most committee late Eisner period, sort of thing, you know, it said the director pitched this before Pocahontas. He went. He was thinking Annie Oakley, Buffalo Bill, Pecos Bill Pocahontas. And they jumped on Pocahontas. So that’s why that got made much earlier. Right. And, yeah, this is one of those things where it looks like it got canceled for a while. They wrote the songs, and I started writing the songs in 1999.

Then they got new directors, and then the new directors had to figure out how to fit the songs. And so, yeah, that’s not great for a creative process. We got to shoehorn this movie together, you know, I wonder if anyone knew Randy Quaid was going to be the breakout musical number in this whole thing. I wonder if anyone saw that coming. I think they were starting to work out that the villain songs, you know, I don’t sometimes like, oh, it’s like a subconscious thing in Disney movies, and I think that’s a conscious thing. Hey, these villains, villain songs work, especially when Alan Menken’s on the job, you know? So I.

I have a feeling they knew that was going to stand out as. As the big sequence. The original name, by the way, was sweating bullets. Okay. The original name of the movie was going to be sweating bullets. Yeah. That sounds so much cooler. Be guns involved. That would suggest that. Yeah. With a very different story. I think a boy is the, um. Yes, it’s captain’s courageous style. Boy would have been the protagonist in that version, which, I don’t know, that’s probably a good idea. Instead of cows. I mean, is anyone really into cows? I don’t think people are into cows that much.

And maybe cowboys people, lonely people on distant farms. I mean, other than that, yeah, I mean, we’ve done a decent job of isolating ourselves from one of the main food supplies of protein in the states. We’re like, it’s somewhat rare. Like, most people know their cows because that’s where the glue comes from. There has been some food weirdness in Japan. It’s not beef, but Japan’s been having a rice shortage, which is pretty much artificial. But, yeah, the supermarkets, I don’t do the shopping, and I don’t eat much rice either, so I don’t care that much. But, yeah, the supermarkets have had some empty shelves because the reasons being.

So the yield was a little lower, but nothing critical. And we’re about the apparent September. I mean, I can see that the rice is about ready when I’m walking around in Nagano, so that’s the small reason. But speaking of, like, weird, not propaganda, mass manipulation, I guess we’ve had all these new warnings recently. So three weeks ago, japanese government was like, mega quake warning. And everyone flipped out, mega quake. And bought a bunch of rice. I don’t know why you’d want that after a disaster. What’s the japanese word for mega quake when they, when they say it all? Scary.

Oh, geez. I’ll need to look that up because I was looking at Japan today, which gives it to you in English. You don’t hear him like say it. I’ll get on that. I’ll get on that when you’re on your next, when you’re on your next bit. And then earlier this week. This is crazy. Last week. So last Saturday I’m leaving work and my coworkers like, oh, and do you take the train? Blah, blah. The typhoon’s coming on Tuesday. But it slowed down so much that currently it’s not going, it’s still not here and it’s not going to be here until Sunday or Monday now.

So it’s just like slowly dumping rain over everyone. They made a special typhoon warning as well. And then a bunch of people bought rice again. So they’ve been having these like super warning. And then, and then, yeah, I mean, I go through this annually in Florida because of hurricane season, which we’re right in the middle of right now. Actually. I don’t think it ends until like December 1 or something. But uh, the, the reason, and I also, ironically, when I was working at Disney, uh, part of the, the, part of the aspect of working at Disney too, is they take on a bunch of outside client work, especially like government style work, because why wouldn’t you want to have produced by Disney somewhere on the back papers to whatever makes someone feel like they got a great deal and a great experience.

And one of those clients was the Florida Department of Emergency Management, which are the ones that are in charge of hurricanes, floods, wildfires, all the way to shootings and stuff, like a campus shooting, thats all department of emergency Management. And they had Disney basically contracted to make all their cool marketing stuff and commercials and animations. But one of the things that I got as an insight from there was them running actual simulations with the real Florida Department of Emergency Management. And one of the very typical strategies is that you always, always lean towards the absolute worst case scenario because at, at best, you are seen as like a prophetic hero that saved everyone because you were like, everyone evacuate now or else you’ll die.

And then if they really would have died, if they didn’t evacuate, then you’re like, man, that guy was on top of it. And then at worst, if you’re totally wrong, you just spurred the economy. You just got people to buy a bunch of rice and gas and water, a bunch of other perishables that they’re going to have to burn through. And if you can do it enough times, and not just completely sort of like break the stamina of everyone until they just can’t handle it anymore, then all you’re ever doing is spurring the economy. So. But one of the, it’s kind of the same thing with, like a doctor.

Like a doctor will more often be like, you’ve got a month to live. I’m so sorry to tell you this, even though there’s a good chance it’ll be like twelve months, because if you say twelve months and then they die in a month, now you look like you didn’t know what the hell you’re talking about, but if you say one month and it lasts for twelve, I know it’s not, it’s not the most perfect analogy, but it’s kind of like you always go with the worst reading because if, if it ever isn’t as bad as you’re predicting, then people can usually live with that.

Like they’re, they’re happy in contrast, right. That, like, it’s not as bad as it could have been, even if it never really was going to be that bad. Well, the weird part in Japan is both of these warnings. Omega quake, which is, by the way, is pure dietitian, chewy is the Japanese. It’s the first time ever. They’ve never given a mega quake advisory before. First time ever. The special typhoon warning. First time ever on the mainland. They’ve done it for Okinawa before. They’ve never done it for the mainland. And then two weeks ago. Two weeks ago.

Yeah. So right before all these warnings, the prime minister said he’s stepping down in late December and we’re having parliamentary elections next month. So conspiracy brain at work, right, get everyone flipping out before the elections. Maybe they’re more easily malleable. I don’t know. How direct is the translation of mega in this context? Like a hundred times the size of a normal quake or just mega big? Like, is that an actual mega kill, die, I guess killed, I would be the mega part. Just. Yeah, it’s just very big. It’s very big in Japanese. So it’s the very bigger measurement.

Oh, yeah. There is no, it says that. Okay, well, here we go. I didn’t know this until I’m now looking at it because they don’t say it on the news. They’re just like mega quake or, excuse me, Kyoto, 7.1 or stronger. I think the japanese scale is slightly different, but not as much as temperatures fahrenheit, Celsius. But I remember when we had the big quake and 13 years ago. Wow. In Japan, it was a 9.1, but the american agencies called it an 8.9. Either way was insane. But, yeah, the Japanese are more fragile people, so I could see them rating things just slightly higher.

And we also have intensity scales. Right. So four is where you start to really notice the quake. And seven is hope your house stands up on the intensity scale. So we have, like, two scales that are both. One slightly different than the american one. One’s like way different, or the Richter scale, I guess. So we use something slightly different. I. I don’t know why we have a lot of earthquakes. I guess Japan can use whatever they feel is best because we have to deal with. Well, I mean, technically, they’ve probably been recording them longer in Japan than they have in America.

Right, right, exactly. So I haven’t experienced any american earthquakes. I know the east coast has had a couple, but I was never around for any of those, and they didn’t have those at first. I was in the east coast for 25 years and never encountered an earthquake. That’s interesting. Okay. Because there’s been a few in the past few years, right? Maybe new Madrid’s going to go nuts soon. Do you know if anyone in Japan worked on home on the range? Because in some of the very previous movies, they had, like, I’ve guessed, Tokyo involved in production.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That’s true. Those are more for the ones that were, like, almost direct to video. So because they did. They did well, they did the anim, the stitch animation, the tv show. There was something recently. Maybe it’s jungle book, one of the Peter Panty. One of these almost directed video ones had Disney tunes Japan on it. I don’t see any information about that, at least on this wiki page. Production company, Walt Disney feature animation, probably Florida and California. Okay. I mean, that makes sense that you would have, like, this. This death of the american culture, death of american animation be done by Americans.

It would have been the animation. Yeah. Like Bulgaria or something. But, yeah, it makes sense. I mean, this is the. This is the. This is the end of the original beast, right? The. The ball that caught rolling with Snow White. This actually is the end of it. So, princess, new ball. There’s some other really deep inside cuts here, like again, Disney showing how they’re circling the drain and also how America’s circling the drain. But even some of the musical numbers start with Jennifer Tilly’s character, the cow, singing. But her singing is so bad that vultures will start to circle them because they think they’re about to die.

That’s like the running gag is that she sings so bad she sounds like she’s dying as opposed to singing. But also, like, some of these musical numbers are not great. And they were sort of showing the vultures circling in that the, I guess the seats were empty when they were showing some of these, or people weren’t going out and suggesting it because it just really wasn’t a worth suggesting. So I don’t know, some self aware, maybe some, like, self fulfilling prophecies through the movie that actually play out in the real world. Yeah, I guess so. I was just, I was just looking here at the cows being just kind of stupid.

I mean, I guess you do think of, you know, you stupid cow. Right? So it is just a weird focus to put in this movie on the cows themselves. Oh, yeah. Here we go. I got this from a IMDb comment, but the dairy farm only has two cows, and once Maggie shows up, they have three cows. That’s not a very. So I’m just wondering if that has, you know, fits into your theory that this dairy farm has no cows. Well, the, the dairy farm is kind of anything but. Like, she, the lady that’s running this isn’t actually running a farm at all, because in a, in a farm, right, you’re basically raising animals and selling animals or butchering animals, but she’s just kind of keeping these animals around as friends, which is not a sustainable way of running a farm.

You know, like, at some point, you do have to treat your livestock as products, even if you treat them, you know, like, with decent love and care and everything. At a certain point, you’re not just there to raise animals and live with animals. Like, she’s almost homesteading a little bit, which is not like, that’s kind of the whole reason that the bank is coming to take everything away from her. And I guess I’m not saying in a traditional sense, but in a modern american sense. Right. 1860s, 1960s, either one of those time periods, you got to be raising all of your livestock for either slaughter or commercial means or resale.

And she takes on this extra huge dairy cow that she probably has no means to support. It’s kind of wild, right. The second she gets this huge prize winning dairy cow immediately just goes bankrupt. Like, what was. What was the other plan there? What? How was she ever going to bring in money? It’s how much was she going to milk out of this damn cow within a week that it would have prevented the bank from repossessing her farm. And holy cow, does that pun intended bank move fast, right? They deliver the letter that you owe 750, and then in the movie time, it’s almost like within three days, the bank’s like, up.

You didn’t come up with a 750. All right, we’re auctioning it off. Yeah. And the actual frontier, that’s going to take a good six months before anything happens. She’s got plenty of time. I also, just to get to your last comment. Yeah. There’s one of the lines that did make me chuckle a bit was that, you know, who wants to eat it? Who would want to eat a chicken? So obviously, the animals are oblivious to the fact that they could get slaughtered because they’re not living in reality anymore. This lady has sheltered them so much from any semblance of reality to the point where it’s now to everyone’s detriment.

Like, now everybody loses the farm because she wasn’t willing to kill a pig every once in a while. Like, that’s really what’s happening, right? Like, she. At any point, she probably could have slaughtered or auctioned off all the pigs and then, bam. Now you’ve got at least payments to go towards paying the mortgage or whatever. They don’t really get into, like, the financial obligations and, like, how all this works out. But the whole point being that the people are telling her, you should auction off some livestock. She’s like, never. These are my. This is my family, and I’ve.

Most farmers usually have of varying degrees of, like, don’t name the animals, you know, at least not the ones that, you know, are going to have to get auctioned off or worse. Yeah, there’s a lot of handing around of money, like cash money in this movie, too, which I thought was kind of weird, because in America in general at this point, they were still, you know, you have greenbacks and stuff. They still hadn’t really worked out what the currency was. And in the old west, you know, everything, anything, who knows what the currency is? Just a pile of green cash is kind of weird.

Again, this is why. This is part of the reason why it feels like a mosh. Between 1860 and 1960, you could almost combine the two time periods into one and sort of be left with this mid century modern vibe that they’ve got going on I mean, I guess that is the current thing. Was it the killers of the flower moons? Like 1920s, right. Later west does. You know, sometimes you get that, I think even a lot of Gene Autry movies, or again, Gene Autry, Roy Rogers are actually, like, they take place modern day because there’s just enough semblance of old west still around.

I mean, there aren’t cowboys around, like, there used to be cowboys. They were gone by the late 1880s. Right. But Gene Autry still made some sense in the modern world in, like, 1940, you know, whereas now you can’t really do that at all. I think you just have a bunch of, like, guys that go to the square dancing hall on Friday night. Line dancing hall. It’s line dancing now, isn’t it? Ever been line dancing? Square dancing is, like, a much more niche version of western specific dancing. I think line dancing is the more approachable one. That was the other thing that the girls in high school drug us off to.

Titanic and line dancing. So I’ve been to the line dancing place multiple times. I don’t like line dancing. No, it always smells like peanuts in those places. That’s better. I thought you were about to say piss. So that was like, peanuts. Yeah. That’s kind of what. You’re not allergic. Kind of what I did say, isn’t it? They did have a mechanical bull, though. That was fun. Did you write it? Now it’s too chicken. I know one of us wrote it. Yeah. But, um. Yep, yep. They had a live band, so I guess that’s cool. You know, a big hit live band.

I’d rather see the country bears. Says the guy that does a Disney podcast. But, yeah, I mean, honestly, if. If I. If you had to put me down to it, midwestern count. Like, cowboy culture is probably the most american culture that there really is. And I realized that it’s heavily influenced by, like, South America or middle America and, like, Mexico and, like, rancheros and stuff. But that’s America, you know what I mean? Like, the east coast was pretty much just european nonsense. That was kind of boiled down a little bit, but that’s all european. You’ve got the southern coast, or if you go to, like, Louisiana, the bayou.

That’s all cajun and kind of french inspiration, right? Like maritime, like almost pirate style. So I can’t think of anything really more american than either the cowboys or maybe like, the Mormons, which I would say there’s, like, a huge overlap between cowboy and frontiersman and sort of Mormon. Like, they’re all, how about the Beach Boys? They they got. They got a complete with a great dark side. I don’t know. I don’t know. Manson. How american is that? Yeah, well, I guess. I guess old, like, like some of the earliest, like specifically non european, truly americanized culture seems to be.

And that might be one of the other appeals to, like, that. Western style movies and everything else. Is that, like, do you. Well, of course you don’t love America. You’re freaking in Japan. That explains so much. Here’s some interesting Americans because Disney often avoids, especially early on, does not do much America. So what is there? There’s been in me, which we actually did not do for this podcast. That was one of the compilations. There’s Oliver and company. Yeah, I was going to also bring up the headless horse man, Ichabod Crane one, which we did do. And that one is.

That’s probably up to this point. Is that the most americana Disney’s gotten until home on the range? I mean, yeah, but I would still kind of consider that European. I hope that doesn’t sound bad, but I feel like New New England. It’s right in the freaking name. Yeah. And they did. Then they paired it up with Mister Toad. Of course, that also doesn’t matter at all. Half the movie was british accent. So this is, I guess, the deepest. I mean, other than Disneyland is also one of the main prime points of americana. As far as their films go.

This is the deepest. I guess they dove into americana. I mean, I guess you could say toy story did to a certain extent, but that’s Pixar also. So that’s. Those are different minds at work, especially at this point in time. And also, I mean, I would argue that, yeah, that’s american culture, but that’s way more of the melting pot version of american culture. Like, it’s accessible to everyone, whereas american cowboy is like a Halloween costume. You know, like, that’s our ver. That’s the american version of the drunk sorority or frat guys that put on like the sombrero and the big mustaches or like, you know, like.

Like the caricature esque stereotypical things like that is the american stereotypical outfit, is it not? Is the western cowboy. Yeah. Okay, well, yeah, there’s the japanese perspective. You know, there’s like the Billy the kids steakhouse, which is an american place. Exactly. Exactly. They. It’s funny, you go to the american restaurant and, yeah, they often have the old westy looking stuff and then they serve you a steak that would never be served in America. It’s like a, you know, like a hamburger steak, like, on a. On a grill, like, hot plate that they wouldn’t serve in America.

It’s insurance claims. Right, right. But I guess point proven, right? Like. Like, the cowboy is, like, the most essential, quick to, like. Like, symbol that represents, even though we are so far removed from cowboy, you know what I mean? Like that. If anything, it should just show, like, a huge meat processor, like, a big machine that’s just, like, spouting out, like, weird chunks of, like, animal parts that you can’t even recognize. That would probably be more appropriate to replace the cowboy symbolism. I mean. But, yeah, in american out, it’s just a city slicker thing. If you want that experience, you go on a tour like that again.

I did my. My two week boy scout hike in the new mexican mountains. I mean, that. That works. I didn’t have a. Didn’t have my. Didn’t have a Stetson for that, which maybe I should have. Oops. That’s 13. I was dumb. I didn’t know any better. I did have a stetson as a. As a kid. I did at a different point in time. Now. Now I have this hat that’s not a cat. That’s more of a. No, I wouldn’t. Florida keys hat, you know? Yeah. And then what else? I got this one. This one’s more of a pimp hat, though, so.

Oops. Call it that. Yeah. When I’m pimping, I can wear that one. Yeah. Yeah. All my hats are next to here. Sorry. Okay. And I’m causing an avalanche of hats now. Oops. But, um. Yeah, I don’t know. When I. When I was. When I was 22, 23, I remember trying to go out, like, intentionally trying to give, like, a bit of a Jack Kerouac vibe because it was the year 2000, and all my peers are just wearing t shirts and jeans, so I’m wearing, you know, trying to look like I’m on the road, look like a beatnik in the fifties.

That was what. That was what I was going for. I did not go for the cowboy. That was my point. Yeah. Yeah. I wanted to look like Jack heroin at the time. Did you do heroin? No, I didn’t do that. Well, yeah. Then you were just a poser, as opposer. That’s right. I feel like that’s the requirement to really be part of beating a culture. You got to start chasing the dragon. I’m still trying to work. Yeah. I’m still trying to work out if I was a poser skater or not, because I didn’t skate, but I dressed similarly but I played punk bass in a punk band.

Is that, is that like, does that give you a get out of jail free card? It does. It does not. And actually I’ve heard bass player in a punk pretty good qualifier for if you were a poser or not and that’s that. You ever break a bone skating? I heavily bruised myself. I didn’t break a bone. Yeah, the heavily bruising so I didn’t do much of it. You know what though? It’s such a clean, I lived and learned it’s such a clean binary yes or no that I think that it’s actually got some validity to it.

If you’ve never broken a bone skateboarding then you were never actually a skater. If you’re asking yourself the question the answer is probably yes. You know. So um. Oh I was just thinking yesterday, sorry this is super tangent y but that band was reasonably successful in Atlanta and at one point we did go to a talent agency and now that I, you know, I talk about this crap I wish I remember specifically what they said but they said several things and we are like hard no and didn’t go along with it. I wonder if we went along with it if we would have found our way into the dark underbelly of the music system.

I mean maybe. Although usually. Or we’re getting scammed. That’s why I think we said no. But, well a lot of the time like these bands that get signed and they’re promised all these riches really you’re just being used as someone that’s like taking out a loan and then spending it all with the people that are making you all these big promises. So at the end of it you might have been our hard. No. It’s essentially you’re taking out a mortgage to buy an album and then if your album flops then like you just owe the money for the album.

Okay yeah that must have been the kind of thing they were telling us. And we were like, you know like 1718 so we were like oh no. But some people do it right? Some people are like let’s go for that brass ring you know and. But yep. So it was that an opportunity? I don’t know. It might have just been a scam so. But even if it was an opportunity I guess it could be both at the same time is the point. Right? I. Musicians don’t make money. It’s the soul that makes the money. You got to sell just little chunks of it at a time.

Yeah. You got to be the marketer if you want to make the money. You got to be a marketer. So if you’re not going to market, it’s best not to worry too much about money. Stole the original bitcoin. Any other rabbit holes on this one you want to dive down? It’s actually a few rabbit hole. And that’s the. The first shaman rabbit. Well, the first 60 seconds of this movie were very promising because it’s got a one legged rabbit, which, right off the bat, like, it opens on a one legged rabbit, which is awesome because it’s got all these insinuations to magic and cruelty and Wild west.

And it also almost feels like they’ve literally maimed bugs bunny in a way that, like, somehow that they were playing on and caused injury to Looney Tunes as just, like, an entire IP umbrella. So. But they’ve got in the. Again, in the first 50 seconds, even one legged rabbit gets attacked by a wolf. And by the way, this rabbit is later referred to as Lucky Jack, a shaman. He. Even other people refer to him as a shaman. He refers to himself as a shaman. So the movie opens up on an american one legged shamanous who gets attacked by a wolf.

He runs away by putting on a goat head skull. So he kind of has this, like, weird goat baphomet symbolism on him, and then he gets attacked by a snake. And when a snake attacks him, he kind of bites him in the head. It makes it look like the rabbit has transformed first into a goat and then into a snake. I just thought that this was, like, some of the coolest Disney like references to. I don’t know. I don’t know if it was, like, a synchronicity thing, but it felt very occult just getting right into it.

And then you got to look at three cows singing for the next hour. But the opening minute, the first minute I was in. I agree. My first notes are, damn. They branded this movie. I kind of like the visual language of this so far. The cow monologue broke the spell. Yeah. Maggie thinks the world is a circle. Okay, well, and I mean, again, then, speaking of the cows breaking the spell, the entire. I guess, here’s the spoiler alert. If anyone needed spoiler for home on the range. But that Alameda Sam, he’s not using violence to steal all the cows, and he’s not, like, wrestling them in the middle of the night with, like, a giant gang of bandits.

He has figured out how to pied piper them. He’s a figures out how to yodel. And when he yodels at these cows, they go into a literal hypnotic trance where first their eyes get all swirly, and then they change into fluorescent neon colors. And then once they do this, that kind of shows that they are completely under some kind of MK ultra mind control spell by Sam Alameda. And he just marches them right out. He doesn’t have to do anything, really. And that’s kind of his whole secret. And I thought that was genius. That was genius that he’s hypnotizing the cows in order to steal them, because, again, that’s something that’s not necessarily didn’t really even exist in that capacity in the.

The late 19th century. Like, there was genius last week in the jungle book two where exactly the same thing happened. Right? I mean, it’s. It’s. I. Well, it was. I mean, they weren’t cows, but. Yeah, well, the genius part is that you’ve got a cowboy that everyone’s afraid because he’s this big bad guy, and you assume that he’s got guns and he’s going to, like, do all sorts of horrible things. But then he literally puts on, like, a sequin orange jacket and starts yodeling. Like, it turns into, like a weird, like a. Like a texan Elvis.

For a moment in time, I just thought it was so unexpected and that it’s like a non violent way of stealing all these cows. Like, what. What was he going to do with the cows? I assume that if they were raised for beef, right? He would just hypnotize them and have them just walk themselves right into the abattoir and then rest of it would take care of itself. Again, that. It’s an interesting premise. This is some. I do the Twilight Zone podcast, and as we’re talking about this, the kind of like, well, magic and cowboys, I guess I should say in this case, the cowboy is not magical.

But I. On the twilight zone, there’s the leave Marvin episode the Grave, which is kind of entertaining. The first time you watch it, it’s okay, right? Basically, a marshal kills a guy and then comes to the town where he’s from, and everyone’s kind of pissed at him, and his sister is like, maybe a witch. And everyone’s daring him to go to the grave at midnight because they’re like, his spirit’s gonna kill you. Right? He finally does it and ends up dying, which could be the ghost, or it could be because the second time you watch it, you realize, oh, Lee Marvin’s cowboy is an idiot, and he most likely just caught himself on his own cape and strangled himself.

I just covered another Lee Marvin episode of Twilight Zone. I recommend the Lee Marvin episodes to watch twice, because Lee Marvin on screen, he’s so cool. You’re like, this is the badass. And for both those episodes, the second time you watch, you’re like, this guy’s an idiot. But the grave includes magic and cowboys, which, like you said, is not normally a mixed, you know, and aliens. Cowboys. And there was a movie, cowboys and aliens. It was an interesting premise, but I don’t know if they did very great either. I saw it in a theater, but I might have taken a nap through part of it.

Yeah, well, yeah, case in point. The other interesting thing about element of sam two is that he seems to represent directly the old man in the mountain from marco polo stories. Are you familiar with this story? I think we. I think it’s come up once or twice on this series before. I always think of New Hampshire when I hear old man on the mountain, which is probably. Old man on the mountain was Middle east. I want to say it was 1140s or something. I probably have that way wrong. But it was. It was definitely early on, it was, like, around sort of crusades, I think.

I don’t know which ones, but some of the crusades. And this guy called old man on the mountain, he literally lived inside of a big hollowed out mountain that he would mind control people into coming in there, and he would, you know, give them missions to go back out into the world and take down his opponents and stuff. But he was known as the old man on the mountain, which is literally what Alameda Slim is kind of doing. Even up to the hypnotizing and the mind control aspect, I guess it is weird. I guess he’s one of the more, like, charming Disney villains.

Like, you might even. Violent. Yeah. Yeah, that’s part of it. It’s like, oh, he’s not doing anything wrong. But, you know, I guess that’s what the bankers might say. Oh, this is just finances, man. Disney, redid Pied Piper, and I believe they made Mickey the Pied Piper. So, like, they’ve got this, like, a precedent that the Pied Piper villain is maybe not the villain. Maybe it was the friends you made along the way. No, maybe it’s like the. The world that the kids are coming from and they are leaving is the real villain. Yeah. And this one.

Yeah. Doesn’t really. I mean, that he is the villain, but there is no real villain in here, which is weird for an old west movie or a western style movie, you know, western, you know, I guess they didn’t want to make it like the Indians as movies of the thirties, forties and fifties did, because you definitely don’t want to do that in 2004. There’s not a single Native American in this entire movie, is there? But there is a shaman who’s a rabbit. Right. It talks like he’s an old, sort of like gold prospector, but watching. Right.

But I did kind of take a little bit like, oh, I guess this is. What is that? Is that like the dances with wolves thing where he goes. He goes native? Maybe. I don’t know. Yeah, he’s Kevin Costner. In this case, the whitewashed Native American. This is our second Kevin Costner reference in a thing about westerns. Although I was. Listen, I was listening to somebody recently say that the thing with Costner is it’s like we think of him as a western actor, but he’s only been in like three westerns. Just like every movie he’s in ends up feeling like a western.

See a perfect world for a good reference. And Yellowstone kind of adds to that, too. Right, right. Western. But it’s cowboy adjacent. But he’s got that Persona that just makes anything. He’s in a western, whereas no one in this has it. Roseanne Barr is not a good person. Yeah. Jennifer Tilly Buscemi. I don’t think any of them are necessary. You have. Chucky was in this. We’re good to go. But this is not that kind of movie. I mean, that, of course that’s Tilly I’m thinking of specifically. But sure, put Steve Buscemi or Roseanne Barnachucky movie. I’ll go for that.

A western, even an animated one’s a little weird. Like, God, I mean, what? Come on. We got what? Tim Blake Nelson. Hire him to, you know what’s going on here. There’s so many higher Costner. He wasn’t doing much in 2004. The other, the other big sort of takeaway I got from this movie, too, was that the government is the bad guy. And Disney doesn’t imply this, but if you dissect the actual things that happen in this movie, here’s the four main plot points that all show that the government is the real villain in home on the range.

One, the government’s essentially behind the entire apparatus of reclaiming the land from these farmers and auctioning it off. Right. Like, this is essentially happening at the government level. The auctions are two. The sheriff is literally the one that he rents his own horse to the mercenary that’s supposed to go in, like, chase this guy down. So this is the government giving their resources to like, private security firms. Three, it’s the government through the sheriff that’s actually enforcing the bank in repossessing the land from the farmers. None of that would be happening if it weren’t for the sheriff.

And in this movie, this is sort of the proxy through buck the horse. The horse and the dog. They’re the ones that are, like, looking at the bill that says 750, or else you’re going to lose your house. And they’re saying, sorry, you don’t got enough. Even if you bring up 500, that’s not going to be enough. Sorry. It’s how it works. That’s kind of them saying, like, or else. Or else we will show up with guns and take it from you. Right? Like, that’s kind of the implied violence in all this, but again, this is the government enforcing that.

If you want to stretch the spell casting taffy, doesn’t. Does. Doesn’t Disney World have to deal with this 20 years later as the Florida government tries to claim their Reedy Creek development district? Who’s the villain in that case? Yeah, dude, that one is probably one of the deepest conspiracy theories in all of Disney, but it doesn’t have the flash and pizzazz of, like, illuminati and, like, human sacrifice does. But it’s truly is one of the ones that there’s inner workings and, like, behind the scenes deals that are constantly going on between whether or not Disney gets to operate as, like, a sovereign sort of entity within the state of Florida.

What was the episode of Family Guy where. Where Peter, like, declares his own country. Like, he turns his house into a country and he doesn’t have to pay taxes, but then they, like, he declares war on the US or something like, that’s sort of what Disney world, emphasis on world kind of is because it’s not nothing like Disneyland. A lot of people that think that they’ve been to Disneyland, maybe they’ve got the whole experience. Nothing like going to Disney World. Disney World is something like ten times the size. And if you include Epcot and Animal kingdom and all the other properties, it’s, like, over 40 times the size of Disneyland.

Yeah, yeah. And, yeah, Tokyo is, like, California size. So I definitely. I haven’t been to California, Disneyland, but Tokyo and Florida are very different creatures. Here’s one. Just while we’re talking about that one interesting thing is Japan. Like, no one’s heard of Epcot center. Everybody knows Disney World, but they don’t know Epcot center. That one, for some reason, seems to, like, not translate to. Doesn’t make sense to other cultures. If they added geodesic ears to it, I bet you more people would know about it. Well, they did. They added a wand for a while. It looked like crap, right? Yeah, it did.

Yeah, it did. The whole point of Epcot is to get Americans, ignorant Americans, more acquainted with the rest of the world, because Epcot is sort of like the international theme park. You go there and the entire place is split up into different countries, because most Americans couldn’t care less, or they just won’t ever have the chance to leave America. God bless them. Because why would you leave the greatest country on earth? This is, like, their one outlet into the rest of the world. So it doesn’t make as much sense that international countries would care anything at all about Epcot, because all Epcot is.

Is kind of a dumbed down version of them. You might be speaking too much truth of some kind because you are glitching out. I’m getting robot voice. Yeah. Apparently, you’re not allowed to talk bad about Epcot. In Orlando City limits. You’re not allowed to talk bad about epcot. Okay, that is my favorite. Well, okay, 1990. Epcot is my favorite park. I guess you gotta go back 30 years for it to be my favorite park. There was also in Epcot. It was one of the only parks that you could drink beer in the park, and it didn’t require a membership to club 33 like it does on the west coast.

That was the thing. On the west coast is part of the perk of being in the secret Disney society is that you could get drunk while you were at Disney. Right, right. Yeah. Well, the other parks, you’ve always been able to do that, so. Oh, what do we do? Last time I went to Epcot center, he had medical grade, but not. See, not CBD. No, the cannaboid. Medical grade cannaboid. And then, you know, hit the margaritas out, and then. And then journey into your imagination was almost fun. I don’t think you got that on Disney property.

Oh, no, no, no. We got the margaritas on Disney property. Mexico. They’ll put. They’ll put ant rim on your ant salt on your glass to get you used to eating bugs again. That sounds cool. Black anselt. Why not? Is this a bug’s life? You get little chunks of the protagonist on the rim of your glass. Oh, man. They missed some synergy there. Oops. I wanted to close this thought, too, that there’s one other example of how the government is the villain in this movie, and that’s that. Out of ego. Alone, the horse buck, he decides that he’s going to prevent this farm from saving itself just because he’s established himself as the authority.

And he’ll be damned if anyone undermines his authority, even at the sake of completely destroying his own community, which sounds kind of like modern policing. I only remember that horse when we’re talking about that horse. Otherwise, I completely forget he’s in this movie. And that Cuba Gooning Junior did the voice like, it stands out to me too, because he looks a lot like Mister Horse from Ren and Stimpy. There’s a few scenes where he looks almost identical to what Mister Horse looked like, so it also felt like Disney was incorporating Looney tunes. Ren and Stimpy, like, they were kind of pulling from a lot of different non Disney animations as influence here.

Yeah, yeah. Just banking for a lawsuit, I guess. Do you remember Mister Horse from Ren and Stimpy? He’s the one who would be like, no, sir, I don’t like it. I don’t like it at all. See, I always just went directly to the space Madness episode, so I’ve seen space madness like 20 times. And other Ren and Stimpy’s like, one time. You’re missing out big. I mean, space madness is great, but you are missing out on, like, Ben, which is Ren’s cousin. That looks just like I remember that. Okay, yeah, the magic cheese logs. Now you’re saying this stuff has dad in it? The dad was.

Oh, man, I have to go back and just rewatch all the Ren and Stimpy now. Okay, so I guess you’re saying the other stuff. I’m like, oh, yeah, yeah. But Mister Horse did not just ring a bell. Sorry, mister toast or super toast? Mandy. That sounds familiar. The other thing is, I haven’t watched Ryan Stimpy for 20 years, so I’m working on very old memories for all of more than 20 years, probably. Anything else you could have. Yeah, so there’s one line in this movie, too, that again, it’s just like, get ready for this decline of american culture.

And it always triggers me when I hear someone say this and I realize that there’s all different ways of looking at it, but basically the farms going away. These three cows are wandering the desert trying to figure out a way to save their human handler who doesn’t know how to run a farm. It’s like a damned sort of mission from its start, but you’re just going to fail again. For animal Farm, they need to start an animal farm. A communist animal farm. It’s either Roseanne or Tilly? I think it’s Roseanne. And she says something like, someone always has it worse.

They’re complaining about how bad this is. And she’s like, someone’s always got it worse. And as she says that, she sees the one legged shaman rabbit kind of hopping by. Right. And this is okay, on one side, it’s a valid NLP reframe perspective shift where it’s like, okay, maybe what I’m going through isn’t the end of the world. People have gotten through worse things. So there, there is an empowerment aspect of it, but there’s also very much a nefarious, like, just suck it up and take it aspect of it. Which brings to mind this. I’m not going to deliver it as a joke, but there’s a good Doug Stanhope ran, and it essentially ends with this.

This premise that your suck doesn’t make my suck any less suck. And that, like, just because you’re complaining or highlighting some worse trial or tribulation that you’ve been through, that doesn’t actually negate anything that someone else is going through. And that, and that premise, I kind of feel, is like such a toxic aspect where something really bad is happening and someone’s like, yeah, but at least we’re not like dying. It’s like, yeah, you can always find an example comparison where it’s like, yeah, at least I don’t have flesh eating bacteria, like, slowly devouring my eyeball as I’m sitting here.

Of course not. Of course it’s better than that. But it doesn’t necessarily necessarily mean that that is justification to just like, grunt and take whatever the hell you’re going through. So I don’t know, I always. That always makes me triggered a little bit. So there’s my rant on it. I’m guessing that there’s a 90% chance. No answer. But have you seen the 1973 Lost Horizon musical Lost Horizon? I know the video game Lost Horizon. I think it’s not the same, though. Okay, there’s the thirties movie, like 39, 37 fan. Okay. Actually that does sound familiar. But people are escaping China and they crash in Shangri La, right? So they.

And that’s a pretty good movie, especially for its time. That is actually what the game is based on, by the way. Okay. 1973, there’s a musical version with songs done by Burke Bacharach and Hal David. It’s one of the cheesiest movies you have ever seen. But like, in a good way, it’s like just seventies schlock up the wazoo. It’s kind of more satisfying for. Than Xanadu in many ways, which I guess Shangri la is kind of xanadu, isn’t it? Anyway, it has. I forget what the. Who the actress is, but it has. In Shangri la, the teacher is singing to the kids the world is a circle, which.

That’s why I referenced it earlier, because it’s that line that you said. But, yeah, just like, someone’s always doing crappier and you and this big song being sung to schoolchildren in a utopia. So it’s like, that’s one of the most programming scenes in a movie I’ve ever seen. In a way. It’s. It’s one of the most insidious and easily programmed versions of, like, shut up and just eat it. You know what I mean? Like, if you just start pointing out, I guess the one that I remember growing up with was like, they’re starving kids in China, right? If you didn’t finish all of the food on your plate.

I guess that was, they told me Ethiopia, but sure, or whatever. Ethiopia. But, yeah, that was the one that I always heard was like, there’s some starving kid in China. We’re not throwing that out. So, yeah, that’s the exact premise of, like, hey, you know, you think this is bad, that you have to finish your Brussels sprouts? Well, there’s someone that’s, like, starving to death, which always felt like an unfair comparison where it’s like, so my options are die from starvation or being force fed? Finish your homework. There’s oppressed kids in China. They take away their homework in China here to punish them.

That’s right. You should be lucky that you have to do all this busy work. There’s an interesting note that in the beginning of the movie, right, when we find out that the farm is going to be sold out of context, but there’s a scene where the pigs are trying to get, like, the cans from the goat, and they literally shout, kill the goat. And then they attack him. And I was just thinking, like, that would actually solve a lot of the problems, maybe. And again, make this an animal farm. Come on, Disney. Have some cojones. And again.

So here’s where me, being a city slicker, is going to play in. And you might not know the answer to this either, but what are you doing raising pigs if it’s not to resell them or to slaughter them? Because she’s got a bunch of pigs here, right? She’s got baby pigs and a couple of big pigs. What. What are you doing with pigs on a farm. I understand if you take them out in the woods and you go, like, truffle hunting. But not in the midwest, right? Not in Wyoming. So what, like, what is the purpose of a pig on a farm if it’s not water? Yeah.

Pig milk, I guess. Good old pig milk. They can survive without their ears. No, my equally cities liquor question, which this. Maybe it’s obvious you do this. I was just like, is it really that smart to keep, like, 50 bulls together? Aren’t bulls kind of aggressive? Yeah, that was definitely weird to just have nothing but bulls in a huge field. It seems like the. The inverse. But, yeah, maybe that’s more of the inversion of Disney to come. Because I remember on that boy scout trip, one of the kids trying to taunt a cow or bull and then being chased by the cow or bull for a while.

Like, I think it was actually just a cow, but you don’t want to want a cow chasing you. So we’re just standing there as we’re, like, nowhere near civilization. So if the. I can hurt you, man, those things are huge and heavy. I mean, we thought it was funny, but, yeah, we were all. And then people were, like, throwing dried cow dung at each other, which I guess it’s dry, just. It’s like dirt now. But I’d say I didn’t join in that game. It didn’t look fun. So, I mean, yeah, upstate New York, that was one of the things that I remember kids I grew up with.

They would just find moisture there. Well, they would. They would find chunks of, like, dry, dehydrated cow dung. And I remember one time, a kid, he threw a chunk, but it had, like, a rock inside of it. So when it hit another kid, it split his head open, but it, like, pushed actual cow manure inside of the cut in his head. And it turns like a big issue because apparently it’s not super, you know, sterile to have cow tongue pushed inside of your. An open wound. No, I had to get tetanus shot after doing this last month.

Oops. Yeah, still almost. Okay. I’m showing you my bum arm looks much worse a month ago. But, yeah, they’re like, oh, you. You ate dong in the street. Tetanus shot. Oh, one final, final note here for to just put a nail in the coffin. That home on the range is about the decline of America as we knew it, and that’s that. There’s a very specific scene that when they find the three cows that wander into town, they hook. They’re like, what the hell are these cows doing? They get into a big fight outside of this saloon.

And when the sheriff comes back out, he assumes that the cows belong to this wagon that happened to be passing by. It was owned by a chinese immigrant. So he ties the cows up to the chinese immigrant guys wagon, and he’s like, you know, get these out of here, whatever. And the immigrant dude goes, wow, what a country. Free cows. And I was just thinking, like, that’s another way that you can basically completely destroy a country, is just wait for the immigrants to show up and then take the american people’s resources and just give it to them for free and just let them steal them and get out of town.

And again, this is the government facilitating this exact sort of transaction. So if there’s not a more appropriate, like, single little runaway gag that explains, like, the whole downfall of America than the government taking Americans resources that they desperately need in order to survive and then just giving them to, like, an immigrant for free. All right, I guess we’ll wind it down today. Also, you’ve been increasingly turning into a robot. So unfortunately, I don’t know if you have a hurricane your way. We actually do have a bad storm happening right now. Okay, that explains it. So people might have heard me go, ah.

Because there was one point where I got this, like, treble, like, in my ear. It was wild. It’s never happened before. I’ve been programmed by the Internet now. Internet glitches. It’s like old school modem or something. Anyway, sorry. I’m actually contacting you from the past. Okay, that makes sense. You are. It is a Friday morning for me, so you are in the past. You’ve got Thursday evening. Well, hopefully, you can not robot out and tell us what’s up in your domain. The big one is illuminaticomic.com. it’s a comic that I’ve done with donut on the bavarian illuminati, and I believe it’s probably the most complete, definitely the most entertaining recap of the illuminati from 1770s all the way to modern day ever been attempted by anyone.

We’ve also had the pleasure of illustrating a whole bunch of people and concepts and events that I don’t think have ever been illustrated before in illuminati history. For example, like this great lightning strike that sort of brought the entire secret society down. So that’s. It’s going to be huge. It’s going to be a really fun one, and you can find it@illuminaticomic.com. dot. All righty. On my end I like to podcast about lots of media. The hub for that is on Patreon at podcastiopodcastias. Like I said, I talk about the Twilight Zone at Time Enough podcast space 1999 at podcast 1999.

And I talk about a whole bunch of movies that are supposed to be really good or really bad. According to IMDb users. That’s films and filth. You know, things tie together. There’s things that movies there that kind of tie with the stuff we do if anyone wants to make a weird lattice of podcasting. So. Oh, man. Well, I guess I’m gonna go walk around the city eating cheese now. Cheese is on sale this week. Gouda cheese spread the word with propaganda packs, all for just $40 shipped@paranoidamerican.com. dot these huge all weather slaps will last in public for years to come.

Remind citizens that birds are not real. Self immolation is an option and might make you magnetic. Do your part and get a propaganda pack today from paranoid american.com. paranoid propaganda packs we got facts on these sticker slats, so grab yourself a stack and go attack with these paranoid propaganda packs. What are you waiting for? Go to paranoidamerican.com right now and get a paranoid propaganda pack. Ready for a cosmic conspiracy about Stanley Kubrick, moon landings, and the CIA. Go visit nasacomic.com nasacomic.com CIA’s biggest.com Stanley Kubrick put a song. That’s why we’re singing this song on nestercomic.com. go visit now.

Nasacomic.com go visit NASA comic.com yeah, go visit nasacomic.com escocomic.com CIA’s biggest calm Stanley cool never a straight answer is a 40 page comic about Stanley Kubrick directing the Apollo space missions. Yeah, go visit nasacomic.com this is the perfect read for comic Kubrick or conspiracy fans of all ages. For more details, visit nasacomic.com. all the more sticker sheets. There are no american stickers. They’ll make you smile and snicker. False grass and secret society. All of these and more sticker sheets. Explore the unique with paranoid american sticker sheets. Unearth tales of cryptids, cults, and mysteries through each sticker.

These won’t last long. Get your now@paranoidamerican.com. stickers, flags in the secret society. All of these and more. What the heck are you waiting for? Discover the extraordinary with paranoid american sticker sheets. From cryptids in the night to cults out of sight, each sticker is a unique find. Get yours now@paranoidamerican.com. yeah, I scribbled my life away driven the right to page will it enlighten give you the flight my plane paper the highs ablaze somewhat of an amazing feel when it’s real to real, you will engage it your favorite, of course the lord of an arrangement I gave you the proper results to hit the pavement if they get emotional hate maybe your language a game how they play? Playing it well without lakers vathen whatever the course they are the shapeshift snakes get decapitated? Meta is the apex executioner flame you out nuclear bomb distributed at war rather gruesome for eyes to see maxim out then I light my trees, blow it off in the face? You’re despising me for what though? Calculated you’d rather cut throat paranoid American must be all the blood smoke for real? Lord, give me your day your way vacate they wait around to hate? Whatever they say, man, it’s not in the least bit we get heavy, rotate when a beat hits a thank us you well, fuck the niggas for real? You’re welcome they never had a deal? You’re welcome, man, they lacking appeal? You’re welcome yet they doing it still? You’re welcome.
[tr:tra].