Summary
➡ The text discusses various interpretations of the Peter Pan story, focusing on the relationship between Peter Pan and Captain Hook. It suggests that Peter Pan never matures, despite his experiences. The text also mentions a sequel to the original Peter Pan movie, comparing it to another sequel, Hook. Finally, it proposes a theory that the characters might be dead, with Peter Pan representing St. Peter, the gatekeeper of heaven.
➡ The speaker discusses their thoughts on various movies, including Lilo and Stitch and Peter Pan, and expresses disappointment in some. They mention their excitement for upcoming projects, including a comic series about Stanley Kubrick directing the moon landings, available at nasacomic.com. They also promote their podcast and other works, and encourage listeners to check out paranoidamerican.com for conspiracy-themed stickers. Lastly, they share a piece of their own writing, reflecting on their life and experiences.
➡ Peter Pan tells Jane, Wendy’s daughter, that to leave Neverland, she must believe in it, creating a paradox. The story suggests that they might have died in the beginning during the London bombings. The story is set during a specific historical event, the largest evacuation in British history. The animation style is a mix of traditional and 3D, with some criticism for the 3D elements.
➡ The text discusses a conversation about eating octopus and squid, comparing it to aliens eating humans. It also talks about Disney movies, specifically Peter Pan, and how they’ve evolved over time. The conversation includes a critique of executive decisions in movie-making and the success of these movies. Lastly, it delves into theories about the story of Peter Pan, suggesting it could be about enlightenment.
➡ The text discusses the complexities of the Peter Pan story, focusing on how characters like Tinkerbell and Captain Hook can move between different realities. It also explores the idea of enlightenment and how it doesn’t necessarily mean permanent wisdom. The text further delves into the character of Jane, who grows up too quickly due to the war, losing part of her childhood. Lastly, it touches on various other topics like Star Trek, the significance of stars in the story, and the impact of growing up in a war zone.
➡ The text discusses various topics, including the re-rating of movies, a service that removes inappropriate content from films, and personal experiences with creepy crawlies. It also touches on the use of psychedelic substances, the difference between laws and morality in Japan and America, and the legality of certain substances. The speakers share their thoughts on these subjects, often veering off into tangents and anecdotes.
➡ The speaker shares their experiences with drugs, starting from high school when they were first introduced to them. They recall a therapist who, instead of discouraging drug use, suggested it could be a form of exploration. They also discuss their dislike for the movie “Phantom Menace” and their theories about the character Peter Pan, suggesting he might be a villain who kills older kids. The conversation ends with a discussion about a World War II evacuation in 1939.
➡ Between 1939 and 1945, a large number of children, pregnant women, disabled people, and their caregivers were moved from cities to the countryside. This was done to protect them during the war, but the process was disorganized and many people didn’t have the necessary supplies. There were no official records of who went where, making it difficult to reunite families afterwards. This event was depicted in the first Narnia film, and it also brings to mind the orphan train conspiracy in the US, where children were sent to unknown locations without proper records.
➡ The text talks about a person’s experiences with diving and their thoughts on a movie. They discuss a scene where Tinkerbell tries to kill Jane out of jealousy, and how Jane’s disbelief hurts Tinkerbell. The text also mentions a theory that Peter Pan kills the lost boys when they get too old, and how Jane’s crying brings Tinkerbell back to life. The text ends with a comparison of Neverland to a place of freedom and joy, similar to heaven on earth.
➡ The text discusses a story similar to Peter Pan’s Neverland, where young boys are taken to a fabricated paradise, told they’ve died and are in heaven, and then sent back to the real world with a mission. If they complete the mission, they can return to this paradise. The text also compares this story to the plot of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles film and discusses various other topics such as skateboarding, skiing, and snowboarding. The text ends with a discussion about the film ‘Return to Neverland’ and its comparison to other films.
Transcript
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This is Matt here. As always, it’s Thomas the paranoid american sporting some new shades there, I see. And we kill you when you become of age. Oh, no, that’s. Yeah. Or you become a pirate. Maybe you get a choice. Pirate or death. No. So, I mean, I’ll just get right into it. Right. One of those main, like, overarching Peter Pan theories is that Captain Hook is the good guy. He represents getting old, which is why the crocodile has the clock in its stomach and he can always hear it ticking. That actually represents, you know, time ticking away at his life, because he’s not this forever young Peter Panden.
And the fact that he’s missing his hand is also representative that time literally, like, is taking chunks of him off in a very physical way. So he knows that Peter Pan is killing the lost boys once they become a certain age, because Peter Pan lives forever, and he doesn’t want to be reminded that either he’s stuck in this continuum or I’m not. We can go into that a little bit, but that he basically takes you out. Once you start looking a little bit older than him, you’re gone. Unless Captain Hook comes and saves you, in which case you become a pirate.
There you go. Well, okay, maybe you’re not directly given the choice, but the possibility is there, I guess, is what I’m making a point that I have no actual feeling behind. If a pirate were to infiltrate the lost boys and convince them all what was going on and had them all join, then where do all the new kids come? Okay. Yeah. Well, that’s when he flies into London and he snatches more kids away Disney proxy style. Right. I guess is the idea that hooker, like, kind of crashed or shipwrecked on the island originally? I see. I guess we do need to do the Peter pan recap a little bit, because I didn’t.
Haven’t watched it since we did the podcast on it, you know, I mean, it depends on the source and interpretation because, you know, Disney takes their own sort of spin on things, so it doesn’t necessarily have to go one for one with any of the original source material. And they kind of start out with Captain Hook and Peter pan already coexisting. And I almost want to make an argument that it’s the same part. Like, Captain Hook is just his shadow. Like, his actual shadow. Oh, yeah. That works for. I mean, there’s so many, like, hero villain dynamics where that kind of works for, you know, so.
Well, I guess Peter Pan’s just as petulant as hook. Just. It’s supposed to be more charming because he’s a boy. I teach boys. I’m not charmed by petulant boys. This old curmudgeon. Well, what did I get? What did I get? This past Saturday, I got a three year old who ate my phone dice that I bought from the hundred. Your what? Your phone. I got a phone dice, you know, for games and stuff. He just, like, grabs it, like, will not let out his mouth. And when it finally comes out of its mouth, it’s been ripped in half.
So that didn’t make me happy. So picked him up for a while. He’s like three, right? Finally put him back down. First thing he does is run over, get his water bottle, pour it all over the floor, grab the company tablet computer, not mine, and then toss it into the puddle we just made. I was like, that. That is. That is prime chaos, you know, headed for big things. Yeah, yeah. Really? So what, you know, it is kind of like, especially with real little kids. Like, the idea of reincarnation comes to mind so much because you’re like, oh, this kid’s been around the block a few times.
They know what’s up. And then another kid’s like, you haven’t done this before, have you? I mean, I think there might be actually something to that because that would be the ultimate superpower. If there. If there were anything that seemed most reasonable versus, you know, bulletproof. Flying through air, turning invisible. The ability to transfer knowledge from one generation to the next directly, like flatworm style. Right? Maybe even eating a little brain here and there. But if anyone figured that out, that would be the ultimate superpower. Oh, oh, you know, incarnation. But I do think, like, if that is the thing that is occurring in our reality, you know, you subconsciously, like, you gain experience.
Like, you don’t have the memory of it, but the experience is there. That makes sense. Which is something interesting with Peter Pan, because Peter Pan never seems to gain experience. He never matures. It’s not that he just doesn’t get older. He never matures either, you know? Well, and he’s almost holds it in disdain. Like, even in the Disney cartoon, as soon as he sees how old Wendy has gotten, he kind of like, you know, like, puts his nose up at her a little bit. Like, oh, you’re. You’re an old person now. Well, it’s like running into your old girlfriend.
Like, really? Okay. I mean, now, for a guy that’s 45, that could start happening a bit. If anyone’s listening. Some of them aged very well, but, yeah. Did you know this movie existed? I don’t think I did, except I’ve like, bits and parts of scenes I saw. And I was like, oh, I thought that was part of the first Peter Pan movie. But no, this came out after I was watching Disney movies in general. But, yeah, I didn’t know it really existed and I didn’t. I’m glad we watched it. It wasn’t a bad one. And it was super short.
Like, as soon as the time code shows up and I’m like, oh, an hour and twelve minutes, we can do this. I’m all in with modern credits. Not just the Disney, like, dn, but, you know, like a good, what, five, six minutes of credits, that sort of thing. That’s nice. I knew this movie existed because it plays a. Oh, no, the fuzz are coming. If anyone hears that. Okay, there goes the sirens. I don’t know if you can pick up on that or. Okay, good, good, good. I’m checking. I’m checking. Streamyard things. I’m doing a mic check.
Mic check. One, two. What is this? Okay, where were we? Yeah, this was playing at my school a lot. We’re panning out flyers now. It’s like 20 years of the school, which means the school started in 2004 and Peter Pan, too, and book and dvd form were some of the things they have around to, like, entertain small children. So I’ve been seeing bits and pieces of this movie for the. The past ten years that I’ve been working there and always confused when I see the Peter Pan two book. So at least in Japan, they definitely ran with the title Peter Pan two as opposed to return to Neverland.
But, yeah, we always have the faux Disney movies playing hunchback two and Bell at Christmas and all that sort of stuff. This one makes way more sense as Peter Pan two, though, just because there are so damn many movies that have the word Neverland in it that are kind of unrelated to this series that, I don’t know, it was easier to find when I just started searching for Peter Band two. Yeah, the term has been reappropriate a few times. I did, actually. Well, I typed in the full return to Neverland and it gave me the correct movie.
And I think. I don’t think I watched something about Michael Jackson. Well, I don’t know. There’s that Peter Pan comparison again. But Neverland. Yeah. For some reason, this whole sequel is just about Michael Jackson and some court case. Yeah. I don’t get it. We did watch hook when we did Peter Pan. And I think I prefer. I don’t take this at all, but I do think I prefer that as a follow up movie, it’s basically the same movie. I mean, yeah, Wendy’s older now, and Peter is older, of course, and. Right. But it’s about Hook coming and stealing the children of, you know, Wendy, essentially, and bringing him back to Neverland and Dot, dot, dot.
And that’s where they kind of differ a little bit. But the overall plot is very much the same. And it’s all an attempt to lure Peter Pan so that hook can get a hold of him and eat him chrono style. Yeah. I wonder if it would have made sense to get dusted off and just do the voice or Alan Rickman. I was like, what if Alan Rickman had been Captain Hook in this? That would have been fun. There wasn’t that much money behind this. The biggest thing I could find to. I mean, one, we have good voice actors.
They hired proper voice actors, which is always a plus. The only person whose name I recognize, really is Frank Welker voicing the octopus, because he just makes animal noises. Right. What does octopus do? Something like that? Yeah, I don’t think it actually talks. It just makes bubble noises. Oh, okay. Here’s. Here’s a slightest, um. A bit will give. Roger Rees, uh, was the sheriff of Nottingham and Robin Hood. Men and tights. And he is Edward. Oh, he’s. He’s the dad. Nobody cares about him. Okay, whatever. They didn’t kill the dad. Did you think dad maybe was gonna stay, you know, not come back from the war? I thought we might get a bit of a proxy with that, but they kind of did a different way as I got a theory that he did die.
Okay. Cause I was definitely expecting, like, you know, that to be the case at some point. I’ve got a theory. Well, okay, let’s go straight to your theory. I’m gonna see if I have. My only credit is, oh, there’s daddy. Because I think I already made a daddy’s dad joke or two in my notes. My theory is that they all die and that when daddy comes home, that’s because dad just died at war and can finally be reunited with them. Because I’ve got a whole. I swear, I didn’t mean to squeeze St. Peter into this again, but I wrote three notes.
Oh, St. Peter. Yeah, yeah. Okay, Peter. Just. Just like Hilary Duff was dead in the Lizzie McGuire movie, right? Lizzie McGuire is dead in this one. I think Peter Pan represents St. Peter because, I mean, aside from the name, which is convenient. But there’s one particular scene when hook finally gets him to. And they strap him up to the anchor. And the way that they’ve got him, like, crucified to this anchor. It looks so close to the hanged man in the tarot deck, which is hanging upside down on this cross, which is also known as St.
Peter’s Cross. And St. Peter, he basically. He’s like the gatekeeper of getting into heaven, essentially. Right? And Peter Pan is telling Jane, Wendy’s daughter. That the only way you can get out of Neverland is by flying up through the sky. And you can only fly up through the sky if you’ve got all this belief and hope and faith. And it just seems like he’s saying, like, hey, if you want to cross over, you have to accept, you know, this. This reality that you’re in. And then you can finally, because it’s the weirdest paradox, that you can only fly in Neverland if you fully believe it.
But once you fully start believing it, you would, like, start losing touch with the reality that you’re trying to get to. So I really do think that it. They all kind of die in the beginning. They’re trying to evacuate, and instead of evacuating, they don’t. And the worst happens, there was, like, 43,000 civilians that died in London during those bombings. So it’s not unheard of. And it’s not, like, an anomaly in the statistics that if their whole family got wiped out, so then the dad coming home at the very end, that’s him dying at war. Okay.
There you go. Yeah. Three times. I wrote a. Something about. About dad eating it here. Yeah. So you said you were saying St. Peter. I wrote several St. James notes. It seems so, yeah. That’s where my head was flopping around in this one. Now, should I be annoyed about which war this is? Because Peter Pan, the original takes place at the turn of the century. Right? Like the books. 1904. Shouldn’t this be World War one? I mean, 42. So maybe wendy’s, like, late thirties, early forties, if you give it a little bit of leeway. But essentially, the moment when they say, you know, everyone’s going off on these trains, that was a real event.
And it was, like, the largest evacuation in british history to date, I believe. Oh, yeah. That’s how Narnia starts as well. Right. What’s that? That’s how Narnia starts as well. Yeah. And. And that pins it to a very specific date, I believe it’s, like, September 1943 or something. And that was when that huge evacuation order came out the first time. So that it pinpoints exactly when this movie’s happening, which is somewhat rare for a Disney movie to. To be pegged to basically like a day. Right, right. Or a week, rather. I mean, it took. I think it took about a week.
I did the tiniest amount of research into this evacuation. Anyway, I’m just being a history snob by being like, this should really be the first one. And I guess we just ignore the first war so much. 1939. So that would make Wendy, realistically 37 ish, right? Wasn’t she like twelve or something at the turn of the century? So she’d be in like her fifties, which is possible. But. But yeah, just whatever seemed a little. I was like, this seems like perfect for. She’s like now 25 or I guess 30. She’s got a couple little kids. And that’s if they want to do it right.
It would have been. It would have been Peter Pan two, Hitler’s rise to power, and then Peter Pan three. The downfall of Hitler. Peter Pan three, crystal knocked. At least then the chronology would line up with the relatives and I in the Wendy’s family. It turns out that Captain Hook just trims his hair, trims his mustache, and that’s how you get defer. Captain Hook is defrewer. Yeah, I’ve had some funny. During the twilight zone, you keep running into goofy faux hitlers. There’s one very good episode with Dennis Hopper as the American Nazi he’s great at. But it’s like the ghost of Hitler is giving him advice on how to speak.
And they make it seem like, who’s giving him advice? And at the end, oh, my God, it’s Hitlereghe. Where from the first shot, it’s like, clear. You know, you could see, like, the hair part on, you know, this ghost down the street. Since we’re on a very quick tangent, but my girlfriend just had a bunch of her, like, childhood books dropped off on her by her mom. Cause she’s like, cleaning up or whatever. And one of these books is like, you know, like one of your child’s first Alphabet books. Where every page is a different letter and it shows you different ones.
And in this book, D is for devils. And it shows a bunch of, like, you know, weird little, like, demon creatures. But there’s also a little Adolf Hitler with a duck body. Completely unexplained. And it’s legitimate. It’s not in like, a weird Spencer’s book style. It’s just a regular children’s book. Just happens to have it. A little duck Hitler. It’s the weirdest thing, man. Now I gotta stand by the Doctor seuss a to z book, which I use, which f stands for fiffer, Feffer feff. And Z stands for Zizzer, Zazz or Zuzdev. So that’s always. That definitely won’t harm your child.
No, no, no. Or the many children that I use that vocal. But okay, there’s me. There’s me doing some horrible mind control because at the beginning, like, oh, Z. Z stands for what? They’re like zebra Zoo. By the end of it, you’re like scissors Azerz. I’m like, no, no, it’s fine because scissors Azer’s us has nine Z’s in it. Zebra only has one, so this one’s better. But yeah, yeah, Doctor Seuss. I wouldn’t be surprised to find a little Hitler somewhere in there since he started off doing all the political cartoons, popping around. Oh, yeah. Talking about if we are crossing over into the great beyond when they go, never, Neverland.
I do love the dumb kaleidoscopic portal that they didn’t even, like, bother with for the original. Show me trippy animation like that for a few minutes. Yeah, I’m in. I’m in. God, I didn’t hate that actually. That transition and the intro credits going through the clouds where Tinkerbell is like lighting up different elements and you can see it through the clouds. Those are pretty damn good. Like, those are actually really interesting. But the freaking boat, man. The boat is so horrendous. It is worse than like a PlayStation two game graphic style. And I just think whatever time or budget it would have taken to hand draw whatever those frames were where Captain Hook’s bow enters reality and it comes and snatches them and then it flies back home.
That sequence is so 3d dated. It is. It. It’s like the weirdest scene. It reminds me. Another weird tangent. But it reminds me this is one scene in the Sopranos out of all the seasons that they have like. Like a fade wipe where they just transition and they don’t ever do that again in the entire series. They’re just like a fade wipe out of nowhere. Like someone forgot or they accidentally drug the wrong template transition or something. But it just. It stood out so much and I just wish it didn’t. Also, because you’re seeing, like, recognizable Peter Pan animation.
So it’s like your brain just is not ready to process a dumb 3d boat in that context. I mean, maybe you’ve been on the Disney ride. This is the scene where you started the Disney ride, right? You come out of the window and you’re in that spot. Like you a lot of people have kind of physically been in that spot, and it’s just, like, ingrained. So throwing that boat in is, you know, if this was a completely new property, I don’t think it would have stuck out as much. But in this, it does. Did. The digital shading was cool.
I like that. That looks different than the original. Of course, there’s very little production information on this. Let’s see. I can basically sit here and read it all in 10 seconds. In fall 1999. Oh, canadian unit. Okay, let’s. Canadian unit was doing it. They closed Walt Disney Animation Australia. Walt Disney animation Japan finished it. That might explain a little bit why it showed up in my school. In March 2001, Disney announced that the film would go to a theatrical release due to positive reception by company execs. That sounds like the dumbest reason ever. Yeah, I’ll say that.
That sounds stupid. And then the only other production note is, as you notice, we do not see any of the Native Americans, and we see where they live for about 2 seconds. It’s like, yes, it’s still there. Let’s never talk about this. We’re sorry. We won’t do it again. Literally. We might even erase the bits that you have seen. We might just remove those. Oh, 2024 Disney. They wouldn’t even bother putting that in at all. Let’s just ignore it 100%. I’m saying 2024 Disney just goes on a Disney and erases those scenes, maybe. Oh, yeah, that could happen.
Yeah. I definitely prefer. Well, I prefer the crocodile, as you mentioned. The time thing is cool, but. Yeah, and then the octopus is a weird choice. They did choose what is most likely to be an alien on Earth. If we have an alien on Earth, I guess. Is that what they say about octopus? They just. Your biology just doesn’t fit any of the rest of us, including cockroaches, maybe. I think we just. I don’t think we should be eating them. I’ll leave it at that. I think it’s weird to eat octopus. How about squid? Squids are fine.
Squids are done. Okay. Yeah. Get your calamari that way. No, when I have the sushi, we have it for, you know, occasion or something. My wife is like, she didn’t like salmon for some reason. Take the salmon, and then, yeah, usually she’ll end up getting my octopus or squid, depending on what’s there. That they are so vastly different. It’s just so weird that. That they get lumped in. Just imagine if. If aliens came and took humans and they were like, oh, hey, we ran out of, you know, the duck. Do you want human and, like. Oh, yeah, that’s fine.
Our pig. We ran out of the pig. You want some human? I guess so. It’s a fine replacement. It’s not. It’s not as good. Tastes like chicken. Yeah, I guess we’d taste more like pork. Yeah. Okay. Oh, yeah. They do medical testing on pigs. Our line in the, like, the animal chain would mean that we’d be more coveted by some kind of alien species, but they probably wouldn’t want us. Yeah, we got to be delicious to someone again. Twilight zone to surf, man. They’ve got that going on there. We’ll have a lot more octopus talk when I get to finding Dory.
I don’t know if you’ve seen that one before or not, but that’s just, like, I think. Okay, what’s the second character as an octopus or something? Like the second build or whatever? Yeah, right. Right around when finding nemo came out, I had a roommate that had kids, so I was back on the Disney train whether I liked it or not. And now you’re on it for weird reasons. Okay, so. Okay. I’m trying to work out my thing on. I was trying to work out the Disney proxy in my notes while doing this. Just. We can’t kill wendy.
That’s where it’s, like, father’s. That’s where I was, like, willing to just let. Yeah. Father gets killed at war. So proxy includes kidnapping, which is literally what happens in the first few minutes. Right. So I wrote replacing your dire reality with Never Never Land, which is the increasing. You know, it’s hard to escape Disney reality from regular reality in the modern day, as we see from our telescoping list of films. But, yeah, it’s wild. The. When we started the series, every time we would do a movie, we would skip three or four years regularly. And now we’re doing, like, five or six movies that all come out that year.
So it’s. It, like, slows down in the years as there’s more and more Disney movies coming out just nonstop from all these different studios they’ve got set up. I guess the thing with Peter Pan, it’s like. It’s because it got a theatrical release, it’s kind of. I think it’s teetering at the edge of the memory hole. I mean, again, no one watches Return of Return of Jafar unless they’re having a nostalgia trip. You know, I feel like these days. Well, that line about it fared well with the Disney execs, and they decided for the theatrical release that’s just so classic Disney, where, you know, like the thing by, everyone’s making something with a certain thing in mind, and then once it’s all done and everyone was on the same page, then the execs get the buy in.
And I swear, just, it happened so many times that it was ridiculous. Like, an exec would come back in and be like, yeah, I had this game slash movie slash whatever it is over the weekend, and my eight year old niece was over and she didn’t like this part. So we’re going to do this. Or you would get these weird feedbacks. And that’s kind of what exact feedback works like. So when they say due to exec feedback, few of them probably took the movie home and did really well at like, a birthday party. And the kids liked it, and they were like, okay, we’re going to make a huge company decision here, which isn’t a bad thing necessarily, but it happens so damn much.
Well, let’s break it down. Because the executives, if we’re thinking about the bottom line, they absolutely made the right decision because this cost 20 million to make 48.4 million domestically, which that actually seems like a lot, and 66.7 overseas for a worldwide of 115 million on 20 million. That’s pretty good. The critics generally were like, whatever. It’s like right in five out of ten middle. Roger Ebert, interestingly, gave it three out of four stars, so he liked it. If they were to remake Peter Pan now in 2024, what do you think they do to it? Are we going live? Well, they did.
They did, like two years ago. It’s one of those other movies that everyone instantly forgot existed. I think it’s. Well, okay, well, that explains it. What did they do to it? Now I have to look it up. I remember kind of seeing, I think it came out in the wake of Pinocchio. I think it might have been because Pinocchio live action was straight Disney plus one of the worst. Everyone forgot about it. It’s one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen. It’s also one Disney catalog. I listen to people describe it. So that was good enough for me.
That’s probably better than watching it. Yeah. Yeah. And I say that as a Tom Hanks fan. Their description did not, you know, make me want to see it. But I was, I enjoyed listening to the description. So sorry, I’m still scrolling. There’s just so much Peter Pang content me. Just trying to find a page about this is a little while. I would assume that it probably still made some money. I mean, I don’t know that, but it’s just so freaking branded. Okay, here we go. Peter Pan and Wendy is a 2023 american fantasy adventure film directed by David Lowry.
Who’s in it? Jude Law is in it. Okay. That’s the only name that sticks out to me. Probably because they had to hire a bunch of kids. But this one is on the brink of Kim Jong un. Alexander Maloney is, doesn’t it? This is like, Wendy is trying to get out of Kiev. Oh, Wendy’s got Kiev. Sorry. I was reading this thing and totally lost the train of thought. I’m just trying to tell if this is just a straight up, this is just a straight up Peter Pan, like, original story. Original story. It is the first story that we are familiar with there.
That came out as a weird word. Soup. Let’s see how it was recepted here. Anyone like this movie? 64% on Rotten Tomatoes. I guess that means it’s not horrible. 61 on Metacritic. So it sounds like it’s just serviceable. Bland. Yeah, just like, put on the original, I guess. I don’t know. Well, in like, four or five years. Right? Uh, that one. Well, if we do the live action ones, I don’t, I don’t think we’re planning to. This is 100% live action. This is one of their live action ones. Like a little bit of interest. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. If it was animated, I’d be way more interested. But it’s, I remember the Peter Pan live action, like, play that they used to put on, like Christmas or something. Yeah, Mary Martin was in the famous version. I know. My elementary school was taken at least once, possibly more, to see it in Atlanta at the place next to the museum. The Museum of Great Britain. That’s why I call it now. It’s a high museum in Atlanta, but it showed up in Black Panther. It’s the Museum of Great Britain, so that’s why I call it. Now.
Is it in Wakanda? No, it’s in Great Britain, but. Oh, like in the, okay, yeah, in the movie they, in the movie, it’s in Great Britain, but it’s, it’s Atlanta’s art museum. So it’s just, it’s a very distinctive building. You, you know, you. Another building doesn’t look like that one, so. Yeah. Well, you got, you got a note. Rabbit hole to jump into? I got a few. I mean, I don’t have any definitive answers on what Peter Pan two is about, but I have a whole bunch of theories. And not just that. Wendy and Jane and Daniel are all dead and that their father reunites afterwards.
That’s just one of many theories. There’s another one that I guess is more general for Peter Pan, but they really emphasize in this movie that Tinker Bell is sort of like consciousness in a way, and that’s her flying around through the different clouds. And that the whole story is maybe about enlightenment and trying to get all these different kids to be somewhat enlightened. But Peter Pan can’t really break through that same barrier because there is a portal, right? There’s a very real, tangible sort of doorway that goes between reality and Neverland, and you can traverse it.
They show them doing it plenty of times. And Peter Pan clearly does it all the time to go and snatch the kids and bring them back and turn them into lost boys if you go on that. But that, like, just being able to jump between that border, apparently, that’s not necessarily enlightenment. That’s just being able to cross between this plane. And I don’t think Tinkerbell, she has this weird power that when she gives the Tinkerbell dust, that’s one of three components that’s needed in order to, like, fly, which is one of the things that you need to go between.
Right. But how does Captain Hook get between? Because originally they almost make it sound like in the first movie, they turn his boat into, like, a flying ship. They lift it out of the water, and they, like, send it away. And that’s how they kind of, like, you know, get. Get the best of him originally. But I don’t know how he does he still, like, have command over it where he can fly it through the portal into the real world and then fly it back? Like, what mechanism is that? Like, does he now have a flying ship? Because Tinkerbell sort of gave it this upgrade.
Absolutely. I mean, that’s how. That’s how this movie starts, right? They had, you know, there’s. There’s a Star Trek episode somewhere out there, out there in the metaphysical ether, where they. They work it out and learn how to control their. Their new ship. So Peter Pan upgraded them. Really? So in that case, Tinkerbell upgraded them. She. She helped Captain Hook and the pirates reach enlightenment. But it’s not like it stays. It’s not. I guess it’s not like a checkpoint or, like a milestone where, like, once you hit it, you can just start becoming dumb, and you’ll just be enlightened forever.
It’s not like, going clear or whatever they call it, like the Mormon church. And you get to, like, a certain level, and you can’t sin anymore or something like that. So I’m good. I’m coming from. This is experience, not expertise. I’m not trying to like, school anyone, but I’ve been. I’ve had a meditation habit going for what, a good seven years now, right? Like if I skip a day, it’s kind of like rare and I’m just talking like 20 minutes, right. But you know, like about starting out and for a while, yeah, I got like heavy psychedelic visuals doing that stuff, right? I don’t anymore because I was reading books, like, oh, those are just distractions.
I’m like, but it’s cool. And eventually you realize, okay, yeah, those were just distractions. So maybe if you see it, then that means that you still have work to do. And once you can just traverse these different realities without going through that transition, that’s real enlightenment. I don’t know. Again, I don’t have answers here. Well, they’re doing course things, aren’t they? He’s going to kidnap children and Peter Pan is just mostly screwing around, right? So they’re seeing all this stuff, but it’s not, they haven’t, you know, transcended that. So there’s like, you learn the tools, then you have to transcend the tools in the very beginning too.
Wendy is talking about the second star on the right. And that could be. That could mean almost anything, right? The second Star to the right. Based on what? Well, going back to Star Trek, that’s the final command that Captain Kirk gives in a Star Trek six. He’s like, second star to the right. It’s like, dude, that doesn’t help in the middle of deep space. That’s actually an interesting thread here. Like there might be like a Star Trek and Peter Pan link that goes deeper than we imagine. Well, they do call Captain Kirk and Star Trek too grown up boy scouts.
So. Well, there’s two options. Overgrown Boy Scout. Excuse me, overgrown voice guy, I need to phrase that correctly or Damalay. And since we’re in Disneyland, I’ve found two possible things that she might mean by the second star on the right. So in Orion there’s beetlegeist and something called like Rigel or Rigel. And those are the two brightest stars. So if you said the second star to the right, that would probably be Rigel, which is next to beetlejuice or beetle geiss. But there’s the other way. I like seeing beetlejuice. Yes, of course there’s also one that might be even more fitting, because when the transition happens, it shows this ship and then it kind of, like, floats in front of the moon.
And then it fades out a little bit. And then it shows Wendy or Jane looking up at the moon. So we just saw this, like, ship turn into a starship. And there is a constellation called Argo Onavis. And that represents, I guess, Jason and the Argonauts. And there’s, like, this whole thing. And it’s broken up into a bunch of different parts. And one of those parts is the keel, which is, like, that thin. Like, the part that cuts through the water. That’s the keel on the very bottom where it, like, meets, like, kind of a part of the hole.
And inside that particular aspect is a star, I guess, called canopus. And that’s the second brightest star in the entire sky. And when Jane’s looking at the sky, she’s clearly looking at two of the brightest stars in the sky, even though they don’t exactly line up. And we’re all constantly. I actually tried and, like, match it, but it didn’t. It didn’t fit for me. But anyways, so those are the theories that it’s either in Orion and it’s Rigel or Rigel, or it’s this cannabis. So in case anyone’s really trying to dig the dirt on this, I did all the research.
Well, no, you can. Yeah, there’s all the star mapping on stories, which is an interesting route to go down, for sure. I lost my next thought. It blew up. Oh, well, no, I just. Yeah, I made the. Somewhere here. I did make the note. Just. Wendy can get her. Get rid of her. Not Wendy, I guess. Jane. Well, let’s talk about Jane. Yeah, Jane. Because I guess it’s kind of weird because she grows up too quickly and is basically told not to do that by never Neverland in general. So how do we make of that? We have a girl who has to basically accept a nasty reality.
In this take, we’ll assume that she’s not dead just because, you know, if she’s dead, then. Yeah. Well, I guess this is the most obvious and. And, like, exoteric version of the movie is that Jane is kind of calloused a little bit because she has to grow up in wartime. Like, during World War Two. She’s got to grow up in the bombing zone where they’re. They’re evacuating people. And because of that, she doesn’t get the same childhood. In fact, when she goes to Neverland, the very first time, Peter Pan mentioned something like, why does she act so old? You know, like, she acts like an adult and they’re all like, yeah.
And I think that’s just showing that growing up during the war kind of, like, traumatized her and it removed some of that childhood. And everyone can tell around her. I mean, she’s still, like, when she’s talking to hook and trying to outsmart him, she’s not doing a great job at it. You know, like, he needs a lawyer with her. She’s not necessarily older and wiser. She just simply is missing part of her childhood now. Yeah. Yeah. And that’s where, of course, I’m going to the thinking of the dark valve, little St. James. Right, where probably, you know, teenagers ended up there thinking they were, like, gaming the system and ending up in a very poor situation.
Well, then you get to meet nurse Ratchet, though, and you get to do LSD with Jack Nicholson, so it’s not all bad. Oh, okay. Yeah, that sounds. Yeah, yeah, that’s. That’s how they wrote the monkey’s head. I believe they holed up in a hotel room with LSD for a weekend and came out with a script, and that’s how they. I believe over a lunch. An LSD lunch? Yeah. Have you seen the monkey’s head, by the way? It’s been a while. It’s been a long while. Yeah, that. That is a very insane movie that I love. I think it’s great, but there’s got to be something you can read into in that one as well.
So what series would that one fit into? I don’t know. Psychedelic weirdos of the sixties? What did you do? You do Roger Corman’s the trip, just to cite some Roger Corbin, since he just went to his own never Neverland at a. Well, he was a young 98, but yeah, that was one of those guys like, come on, Mel Brooks, we’re going to hear about that sometime soon, and that’s not going to feel right. Even though, you know, he’s like 100 now. You know, Colt, Mel Brooks series might be worth it. Yeah. Hell, I don’t watch no brace movies.
Blazing saddles. Did that come up on your best and worst list? It didn’t, but I have seen that movie like, more times than I want to admit to because, yeah, my aunt was dumb enough to show me that one when I was like six or something, so that’s a good aunt. Well, I think it technically is rated pg, weirdly enough. Am I. Am I wrong about that? I got to check up on that. So this was before ratings really meant anything? Apparently, yes. Yes. Oh, yeah. There’s some early seventies movies, traumatized an entire generation of children.
Yeah, because you got what’s her name running around naked and Logan’s running. That’s like g rated Jenny Algaeter. Yeah, yeah, that’s artwork. I will defend that one. That one. Oh, no, I’m defending. Yeah. Great. When I was seven, I was like, hey, you know, so. Or whatever. I remember watching Romeo and Juliet in, in class and now that one is cited as like no go. Oh, right, right. Because it’s. Yeah. Oh, for eight different reasons, I guess. Yeah, I think we watched it too. Maybe. I don’t even remember. Okay. Okay. Blazing saddles was a proper r, so I guess my aunt technically should not have been showing that to me, but.
Or sometimes movies get like re rated, like later on, like I can’t remember what it is, but there’s been one or two where it’s like, it was like a g. And I think, I think the first Star Trek getting back to track, I think was originally in g. And then when they did the later cuts, probably a pg, at least there is. So like everyone is familiar with like the straight to tv, like the USA versions where it’s like I’m mother trucking tire to this Monday to Friday snakes. This is what happens when you meet a stranger in the alps.
Yeah, but there’s also a Mormon service that. And I think it’s like a network, or at least it’s a service that filters movies out and just removes the bad words, the violence, any of the sexual bits. So you could legitimately watch Dear near any movie with all of those parts kind of cut out. And I guess that since they specialize in it, maybe they do it with like a better touch than just hard edits. I don’t know. I haven’t seen one. Maybe we should look into some those. We should, because I’m thinking of, like, something real notable.
What’s, what’s something that you just don’t want to show to a kid? Fight club. Oh, well, yeah, yeah. Back to Big Lebowski. The fight club’s good because the tone remains. I mean, even in the shots where it’s, you know, not something explicit, there’s still a pretty gnarly tone through the whole thing. Yeah, yeah. What do, you don’t even get to see the centipede in that version, do you? Especially if you’re doing the sequels. I think that might hit the wall. Can the Mormons can work with the human centipede. The full sequence, the third one or second one, see in the first one is like a little artier for you know, with the second 3rd, it just gets more and more exploitation y, so.
Well, they knew where the money was coming from. Oh, 100%. Because that was the thing, Tom. Six people were like, yeah, you did. You seem to be a little restrained. He’s like, oh, did I? Okay, hold my beer, please. No. We did our human centimeter to podcast. That guy retweeted it, so that’s kind of fun. He’s paying attention to people talking about Centipede. There’s another one with teaching. This feels weird. The unit with the little kids right now is, like nature, and I have this tin filled with, like, these little plastic bugs, like, disgusting spiders, and, like, handing it to little girls, like, three year olds.
I’m like, that’s weird. One of them being a centipede. So I don’t know. They creep me out. Now, that’s interesting. They creep me out now, but at three years old, they don’t creep you out. Maybe. When do you start getting creeped out by stuff? What kind of experience do we need? I think after you get bit by a few or get weird rashes, then maybe you start to develop a little bit better, I don’t know, self preservation or something, because, I mean, that was, you know, back in my day, before we had more than six channels on the tv, but, like, fun was going outside and lifting up rocks and finding, like, the roly polys or whatever the hell was under those rocks.
And I’m just little snakes and stuff. Like, that was the fun part. Now if I see a snake, like, I’m not. My first instinct is not. I’m gonna capture it and name it gambit, and it’s gonna be my pet now. Yeah, no, I was coming home a few days ago, and there’s a snake, giant snake, going across. Well, not poisonous, but going across the road. I’m like, I don’t know what that guy’s gonna do. I’m just gonna wait for him to cross the road and see what happens, which then he went into a little water gutter, so.
But, uh, yeah, I didn’t really want to go interact, and then I thought, night or two ago, I think I had a dream about a, uh, you know, having to do the same thing with a much larger snake, of course, because that was dreamtime snake. So, yeah, I don’t like snakes, but they. Yeah, they say. They say when you, you know, you’re lucky to see one, and snakes and dreams are important. If you’re doing ayahuasca, be prepared to meet the snake. You know, that sort of thing. You think people lie? You think they have, like, a.
Like, an ayahuasca trip, and they’re like, oh, I totally see a snake. How important is this? I don’t know. That. That. See that. Well, I’m not sure I’d want to do ayahuasca. Not because of the snake and because I don’t think I want to vomit and crap myself while tripping. That just sounds really unpleasant in front of a bunch of shaman, too. Well, I guess you stumble off into the forest a few steps or whatever, but I’m like, yeah, I don’t want a psychedelic drug that makes me uncontrollably, you know, blow it out of both ends.
That sounds horrible. And apparently not for everybody, but a lot of people. I mean, I’m sure there. You know, I’m sure it’d be, like, cool, too. I’m like, there are other things you could do that don’t include, you know, diarrhea and vomit. So stick with. Stick with my plain Jane LSD. Thank you very much. Yeah, just order some mimosa bark online. You go to pension penny, you raise a ph here or there. Good to go. I mean, you know, there’s definitely, like, variants, and the shroom trip and an acid trip, which, I don’t know, maybe that’s a personality test.
Which one do you prefer? You know, salvia every time. Yeah. Yeah. See, they had stuff in Japan a while back which worked, but I’m not quite sure what it was. I kind of wonder if they were testing vape technology on, you know, psychonauts back, you know, 1015 years ago. Really? They had, like, a psychedelic vape in Japan. They do now. Yeah, from what I hear, they currently have that. But no, this was still something that was, like, delta nine or whatever the hell it is. No, no, it was synthetic stuff. But it was synthetic stuff that, like, actually worked.
So, um, and it got crappier as time went on because there’d be a loophole. They knock one out. So, you know, it’s illegal now, and. And in Japan, if it’s legal, you’re just not getting it. So they just keep finding the new loopholes, and each loophole, it would get, like, worse and worse, you know? So you can only shift that molecule over so many times before, you know, people start having palpitations or weird things. Exactly, exactly. It started off being like, hey, this is pretty close to weed, to being like, are you talking about k two? Like the synthetic k two stuff? No, no, I’m talking about specifically japanese loophole ones.
That I don’t even sold in America. Sounds exotic. Yeah, yeah. You go to, like, the back alley places in Ichibokuro in Tokyo or something. Right. But, you know, they work, but. Yeah. Because I ran across a few of the synthetics in the States back in the day. I never saw. Right. I never found one that wasn’t complete garbage. So I’m definitely not talking about this. So, you know, it’s. It’s Japan. Japan’s weird that there’s no moral thing about doing that. It’s just like, is it legal or not? Are you breaking the rule or are you not? If the answer is you’re not breaking the rule, great.
If you are breaking the rule, that’s bad. A little bit like morality. Yeah. Yeah. But it’s. What does the law say? Because in America is like religion. Like, you know, you’re flirting with the devil if you’re tripping out that sort of thing. You know, people get in that headspace, which. That doesn’t exist here. It’s just. Is it law or is it not law? So maybe I shouldn’t say rules. I’ll say law, because you don’t put your morality behind the law. It just is a law, or it isn’t a law. This is a. This is not an american way of thinking.
I mean, you know, it’s. Yeah, no, clearly, because. Yeah, I’m just trying to think. I don’t think I’ve ever respected the law when I was growing up, and if anything, it was telling me what I should be going out and doing, like, my first dare class. It never would have crossed my mind to want to do any of these things. Like, they all seem, like, horrible, murderous, you know, bad people things. And the second dare starts explaining, like, all right, you might see this stuff, and, you know, here’s what it might do. And it’s like, that sounds kind of awesome, actually.
Like, yeah, I remember health class, they’d wheel in the tv and put in, like, the anti drug. Don’t do psychedelics. I was like, psychedelics look awesome. So I actually did that. Had a totally, like, sketch comedy sitcom thing where my junior, senior year in high school, they had, like, the person doing community service to give a speech about how drugs ruin their life. And the teacher left the room for five minutes, and then they started talking about how awesome their drug experience that actually happened. I mean, that seems like a sitcom thing, but a sketch comedy, which probably has been, but, yeah, happened.
I saw that happen in the wild, so that was kind of fun. I was like. I was causing some problems. When I was a little bit younger, and I went to see a child therapist for, I don’t know, a few months or something. And one of the. And I was just trying to shock them a little bit. And I had this friend, I was in 7th grade or something, and I remember that she was going to be able to get acid for some carnival that was coming through town. I’m telling this therapist this, and like, yeah, one of my friends might be able to get some.
Some acid, and I’m just doing it. And I was trying to, like, you know, let’s ruffle this person’s feathers. And the dude, without blinking, was like, I think you should. And it’s just like, this was an adult therapist that my, you know, my parents had used insurance or whatever to have them talk to me, uh, to straighten me out, because they were scared that I might, you know, be on the wrong path and start doing drugs or something. And then here’s this guy that’s basically like, not only do I approve of this, but I think you should do it.
It could be some really important exploration for you. And I’m glad that he said to do it, but I also retrospective. I don’t think that’s what my parents were originally paying him for. I’m gonna guess that’s probably the case. Yeah. It was my worst experience with that sort of thing. The Phantom menace. We got some drugs, didn’t work, and neither did the movie. I liked Phantom Menace. I tried to rewatch it again recently, and I just. Oh, I can’t get past the acting. I do like attack, return of the revenge. Excuse me. Revenge of the Sith.
I do like. So I’m not just throwing the prequels under a bus. And just to be clear, phantom Menace is the jar jar pinks, right? That’s correct. Yeah, I like that one. Okay, you’re down with the big. In spite of Jar Jar Binks. Yeah. Well, that’s another part of my really not liking that. It’s probably the experience. I just explained where I. It was like, new Star wars. Yeah. We’re gonna trip out and. No, no, you’re not. No. And I tried that to be old enough to be into it. I did that with small soldiers. And it was the weirdest thing.
I mean, it’s different for everybody, but when I did that for small soldiers, it didn’t kick in because we were just sitting there in, like, a dark theater watching, you know, it was a very passive experience. And the whole time, it was like this working for anybody. And then the second the movie stopped and we had to get up and stand up and walk around, then it all hit, which was not the most fun place to be in, like, a busy movie theater. Trying to find your car and stuff like that was not the experience that we had signed up for.
We wanted to see small soldiers and feel like we were in the movie anyway. In the sixties, I’m sure they had lots of blotter with a tinkerbell and Captain Hook on it. I wouldn’t put Peter Pan on blotter, though. That seems wrong. I wouldn’t want that. You know, that’s not a way to start your trip. Looking at Peter Pan’s mug, I feel like. Yeah, I don’t think Neverland is the place that you really want to go for that kind of an experience. Or maybe it is. I don’t know. How do you feel? Do you find Peter Pan to just be generally annoying or creepy? Yeah, no, 100%.
I honestly believe that he’s killing the kids when they get old enough to keep himself feeling like he’s young. I really think that there’s this aspect of it because he’s kind of a goddess in a way. So he’s, like, above all these kids that he’s snatching and bringing back to Neverland. Yeah. And then he seems to. He has, like, a sociopathic smile where he. He would, like, you know, slit an 18 year old’s neck and not give it a second. He doesn’t care, bro. Like, he. He can just zip back to Neverland. Who’s coming for him in Neverland? He’s already constantly at war with Captain Hook, so he.
He virtually can do anything he wants with no repercussions. Like, the only thing that could possibly happen is what the Lost Boys pull. Like, a mutiny on him. But that’s it. Right? So, like, he can kind of pretty much get off unscathed. He can go into the real world in London, have his way, and do anything he wants with anybody, any time, and then just pop back over into a different reality. Yeah. And he’s got them mind controlled under his thumb, you know? So he’s got that going for him as well. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I guess we probably.
We talked about this some with the original, with Hook being more of the actual hero. You know, we can relate to him as grown ass men. What do you think is the Logan’s run age for the lost Boys? When. When do they get their throat slit? I think in Logan’s run, it’s. I think they even call them maybe the lost children, lost boys, and Logan’s run. And I think it’s like, they’ll kill you at 18 if you’re still here or something, because in the movie it’s 30. Right. But if you’re still living in this outlier of society at 18, you’re screwed.
Or something like that. I would. I mean, I think it’s like 13 or under. Yeah. I think it’s puberty for Peter Pan, so. Which would be a little younger. And because, remember, the original story was based on, like, the author’s, like, brother died when they were young, so this was maybe a way to, like, bring him back to life. I might be misquoting part of that, but that was, like, the. My original takeaway of the first Peter Pan movie when we did a little bit of a deep dive on it. Yeah. And that’s why he can never get older, is because he’s dead.
Right. Like, he died at that age. I mean, I guess that’s the thing with this movie. Most of the points we’re making really good. Just go back to the first one. This really is like, let’s just do it again. It’s a legacy sequel. That’s pleasant enough, except for the music. Joel McNeely did the score. That stuff’s fine. But, man, those songs suck. And what are they doing in this movie? Yeah, the songs all suck. There was one, that short one, and I can’t remember the lyrics to it because it was, you know, so memorable. But it was.
I think that was the second star on the right song. It starts off with that. When that came, I was like, what? The lost Boys won? It’s like. Because that’s what lost Boys do. I just think that that one was entertaining and it was short enough. That didn’t annoy me. But I think you’re right that this movie is kind of just like a repeat of the first Peter Pan, except I. Except it has this World War Two backdrop, which I think is everything. Like, that’s. That’s what defines this entire movie and all the different theories and plots around it.
In particular, anything that’s different about it comes from that. Yeah. So I was. I think it was all fair. I was trying to sell you on the country bears and saying that the movie’s great, but the music’s terrible. That music’s better in this music. And I don’t even like country. I just. Yeah, I just balk at saccharine pop ballads, I guess. So. I was worried when this one started out it was going to be all musical, but luckily, it doesn’t necessarily turn out that way. And the score was fine. The guy that did that, as a science fiction fan, he’s more recently did some very good scores for the Orville tv show.
So that’s nice. I do have some notes here about that, that whole evacuation. So it was actually 1939. And what happened is that they got note the war was going to start. So basically that day they started issuing evacuation notices. And it was for school age children, pregnant women, mothers with children and disabled people, along with whoever was like, taking care of them and teachers. And technically it, the migration itself supposedly took place over like six years, but majority of it was over eight months. And it started September of 39. And they basically gave, or they will tell you like, okay, Matt, you’re going to send your kid off.
You and your wife are going to stay home, but you’re going to send your kid out to the country. And you need to prepare the kid with a gas mask. They got to have their underclothes, their night clothes, any kind of spare socks and shoes and toothbrush, like everything, warm coat. But like, they had to provide their own gas mask. And a lot of them, like, a lot of people didn’t have all this stuff to just send these kids out. And which was even weirder about this is there was no official record about who got on the trains, who went to where.
So actually reconnecting the kids back with their parents after this all happened, uh, it’s a little bit murky as to how many people actually reconnected again, especially since some of these kids, they were like, you know, four or five, and they would stay in the country for like a year, you know, eight months plus. And at a certain point, like, they actually don’t recognize mom and dad as much anymore as these. In many cases, strangers. And the strangers would also see these kids coming from the city, and to them, they would see these, like, you know, sickly, dirty city kids that were probably being forced to work or whatever, and they thought they were being like, neglected.
So they just wouldn’t give the kids back up. Like, this is a really interesting and weird rabbit hole of like, how many kids, like, where did they go? Did they ever make themselves back? And it’s just the records are just not there. I guess they hollywooded that up more. In the first Narnia film, you’ve seen that one because that has a, you know, the first 15 minutes. That film is a live action reenactment of all this. Yeah, the original lion witch in the wardrobe movie. I remember seeing that one in the theater, because that was definitely was coming to my mind again when I put this on my math was just saying World War one.
And once that’s happening, no, no, this is two for sure. So which is. Yeah. Integral to this movie, as you just said. It also remind me a little bit of the orphan train conspiracy. Have you ever gone into this one or heard about it? They hit me with it that the US was basically just stockpiled with kids that came from unknown sources throughout turn of the century. Especially around, like, the world fairs. They usually relate it. And they had, like, the cabbage patch baby. They had, like, all of these huge incubator sort of display, sort of like, exposes.
And in addition to all this, like, all those kids didn’t necessarily come with records. So there was. There’s always been a question about where all the damn kids came from on these orphan trains. Like, what orphan them. And if you just pair that with all these other evacuations, this one in London in particular, and the fact that they only thought to start taking records after all the evacuation happened. And they claimed that there was a fire that cleared out all the original records that I think they had taken in like 31 or something. So they. They’re truly.
If you were to set up a conspiracy to just ship out a bunch of kids from one country into another and have no record of it, all the things that would have to happen happened. You know what I mean? Like, the original records got blown out. And then no one thought to take the new records as the evacuation was happening. So it. I don’t know. It made me start looking back into some of the orphan train theories just because it fits so nicely into it. This is, of course, a different part of the world. But have you had a chance to watch Godzilla minus one yet? Not yet.
I mean, it’s on my list. Buried under, like, 40 others right there. Yeah, one. I would push it, actually, for being specific. This is Godzilla 1984. But I’m going to recommend pushing that to a top here list because it starts off showing the kind of aftermath of the war, like so many things. Like, this is showing the start. Narnia starting showing the start where Godzilla one is like, here’s a broken country. It’s a kamikaze pilot who does not commit, do his kamikaze duty. So he comes home, finds his parents are dead. Half the people he knew were dead.
The people who were there knew he was a kamikaze pilot. So they’re like, what the hell? Yeah, yeah. So they’re pissed at him and he ends up starting a family because a woman is trying to steal food from him for the baby with her, as in not her baby, but it shows them kind of hanging out and hanging out in his bombed out house. And then he gets a job, and then they start to rebuild the house. And you see Japan, within two years, rebuild itself from being firebombed, Tokyo firebombing. And, of course, then Godzilla shows up to smash it all.
But that’s the fun part of the movie. It’s not. Is Godzilla wise one a fun movie? I don’t know. It’s not a fun movie. It’s really good. Definitely. Definitely. Has there been a godzilla that takes over London yet? Oh, America, right. New York and Japan. That’s it. There is a british monster movie. Of course, it’s not Godzilla. And I cannot remember a title, but there is at least one kaiju hits London movie out there. But, yeah. Yeah. London has mostly avoided giant monster attacks, so even Hong Kong got smashed. Was it Shanghai? I don’t remember one of those got smashed in one of those recent american movies.
I’ve got my other paradox worked out a little bit more because I was taking some notes. So help me figure out this equation. You’re trapped in Neverland. This is Jane, right? So Jane’s trapped in Neverland originally, and a large portion of the movie is that she doesn’t know how to fly. And since she doesn’t know how to fly, she can’t get back home. And it’s kind of weird. We’ll ignore. Well, we’ll talk about it for a second, but, like, it’s kind of weird that she’s literally there. She’s literally in front of Peter Pan, and she sees him flying and she sees Tinkerbell, but she just refuses to believe it so much, even though this is the most proof she’ll ever have.
And she just can’t accept that, you know, any of this is really happening. So therefore, she can’t fly for the longest time. Let’s you know that it kind of feeds into my theory that she’s dead, and, like, she won’t accept that she’s dead. And you can only ascend, you know, like, the purgatory or ghost realm once you’ve acknowledged it. Okay, set that aside for a second. So you’re Jane. You’re trapped in Neverland. The only way to escape the illusion is to believe the illusion. Right? Like, the only way I can fly out of Neverland is to believe that Neverland exists.
But I don’t know the equation. Seems like it’s almost a nonsensical equation. The only way to escape an illusion is to believe the illusion. Well, I guess it’s like a lucid dream thing. She has to recognize the dream and then she could do whatever she wants in the dream. Like fly. Of course, the other option would probably be if you go lucid at that point is to wake up. So that’s not happening either. So maybe the paradox. She’s still a little girl, so maybe she can work out that much weird philosophy that, you know, that philosophical logic.
I don’t know, work out the situation that way. It’s like meeting. I’ve never been able to dive that well. I’ve dived twice in my life, properly. I mean, I’ll jump out on Cannonball, whatever, you know. But I’ve only done two proper dives in my life. One was at the YMCA when I was five or six years old. I would not jump off the board. And my dad was like, I’ll get you, Castle Grayskull if you jump. And right in the water. And the other one is, I was a Boy scout. Not an overgrown Boy scout, I hope, but, yeah, to get my merit badge, I managed one just because I needed to, you know.
But if you want me to go dive properly, like head first into a pool right now, I don’t think I can manage it. Yeah, I done it before, but I don’t think I can manage it. Same with lucid dreaming. I’ve had some serious lucid dreaming, but it’s hard to just plop yourself into that sort of thing, you know, somebody would do it. Practice. You got a better monks to do it, you know. No, it’s really difficult practice. I mean, that’s. That’s why we have people doing that as like monks and stuff, right. So I know enough to know how difficult it is basically, growing up in Florida, I was on the swim team, so I did a lot of diving at the.
At the YMCA and I remember, like doing. I had it like a jackknife dive, I think was one of the names. There’s like a whole bunch of different ones, but never like, never one of those huge, like, super tall ones. Uh, I don’t think I’ve ever jumped off one of those before. Like the big 20 foot platforms. Yeah, I. I’ve jumped off some giant rocks into lake. So, yeah, again, this isn’t a fear thing, this is just an inability of me to orient myself headfirst into water for some reason. And I’ve jumped off very dumb things.
Almost killing yourself this one has the same theme where Tinkerbell literally tries to kill Jane once Jane enters Neverland. And she even says it. She says it to Peter. He’s like, she just tried to kill me. And Peter’s like, oh, she’s just jealous. All girls get like that around me. And there’s like, this weird little, like, like, he’s like this mischievous smirk. Like, yeah, she’s gonna try and kill you. That’s just part of what it’s like down here. Like, if you get my attention, then people will try and kill you because they want my attention. Sorry.
You’re making me think of the doctor evil therapy scene in Austin power. Sir, he’s trying to kill you. He’s not really trying to kill. Yes, I am. He’s correct. And then what? Later on, Mini me is trying to kill him. So that’s that. I guess that’s more mini me’s like tinker bell then, okay. Where I work it out. And there’s also, like, a weird connection to this because just like Tinker Bell was trying to kill Jane in a couple ways, she also tries to throw her to the mermaids. And the mermaids, as we saw in the first one, they’re going to try and drown her.
Like, that’s what the mermaids do. And that’s kind of part of their actual lore is it would, like, drown people and, like, steal their souls and stuff. But so they get into this situation where Jane at one point says, I don’t believe in any of this. I don’t believe in you, Tinkerbell. And it, like, hurts Tinkerbell. Like, she starts dying just because of, I would say, a magic spell that she kind of casts kind of like a curse because she, like, verbally says this thing with ill intent. That ill intent transfers on a Tinkerbell, and she starts to die.
And Jane is trying to do everything. And when she finally reunites with Tinkerbell, whos, like, slowly dying after Peter Pan gets taken away, she doesnt necessarily say anything about I believe in you or I have faith, or im sorry. She just starts crying. So she’s like, you know, this anguish. And then Tinkerbell starts coming back to life. And my first thought was like, does Tinkerbell actually thrive off of Jane’s, like, turmoil? Like, maybe she’s feeding off of her, you know, Monsters, Inc. Scream style. Maybe it’s like talking about us seeing the play as kids. Were you supposed to do clap for Tinkerbell in the play? I believe so, yeah.
You have to clap to make her bring back. If you fail the clap test, which. Which Mary did, now you have to provide anguish. So all you kids that thought you were being cool and didn’t do it at the play, this is what happens. This is what happens when you meet a stranger in the alps. There’s another little nod here to the premise that Peter Pan’s killing the lost boys once they get too old. Because when Jane meets Captain Hook, per chance, like, he obviously puts himself into the situation, but they meet up and he gives her a whistle.
And it’s like, you need to be the whistleblower. Once. Once you’re with Peter and the Lost boys, blow this whistle so that we can come and take them away. And she kind of was like, yeah, I’m going to do it. And then I guess, spoiler alert, she doesn’t do it. She throws the whistle. But then one of the lost boys finds the whistle again. If. If this law. If Wendy’s there and she’s literally the whistleblower, right? Like, her throwing that whistle. Maybe it’s representative that, like, she told one of the lost boys and then one of the lost boys called in the authorities in this case.
You know, Captain Hook is like, CPS or. I don’t. I don’t know what he represents in this scenario, but he’s the authority. He’s the adult that comes in to take Peter Pan away because he’s been offing all of these lost boys. And it was actually one of his own lost boys that turned him in. Well, it might have been on the minds of the makers of the movie, realistically. Because what Aaron Brockovich is, a couple years before, there was the Russell Crowe one where he’s blowing a whistle. So it was. It was in the air at that.
You know, those movies were winning oscars. So not. I would say that’s not a completely out there idea because we do sometimes have out there ideas around here. I guess the ending is kind of comes really quick because at this point she cries and Tinkerbell comes back to life because Tinkerbell feeds off of human suffering. And as soon as that happens, wendy figures out how to fly, she saves Peter Pan, and then they’re back home and then the movie ends. All that happens within, like, five or six minutes. And we’re glad it worked out that way.
And then we get another banger and credit sequence. Disney in this era is definitely. Well, I guess we said in the seventies they were knocking. No, it was opening credits in the seventies they were knocking out of the park. But now they’re knocking the end credits out of the park a little more, I think. Yeah, they’re not doing great on the 3d ships, but I’ll be damned if they’re not making some great credits. That’s right. I let them run for two minutes before I stop the movie. So that’s saying something. Usually credits are there, finished. Even when I know there’s a post credit sequence.
Sometimes I’ll just be like, okay, movie finish, hit, stop. Especially modern ones. You know, the post credit sequence that, like, completely changes the tone of the film you’ve just been watching or just completely erases any sense of accomplishment in the film you just watched. You know, they love to do those now it’s like, up. You thought that was the end, but this movie barely mattered. Get ready for five more movies until you quit caring. Are there any movie? I think there are a few, but there. I can’t think of them off of my head. We’re like, the credits all roll, and then it shows somebody waking up.
Like the whole thing was a dream and the whole movie didn’t even matter. Well, the best example of that ever, I believe, is the sitcom new heart, where. Right, right. The very entire series was a dream. Right. From. From the character from his first sitcom. Yeah. I’m like. I mean, that’s. That is a, you know, middle finger ending, but in such the best way, you know, because even the Sopranos has, like, that kind of, like, what happens next? Sort of thing. You know, they’re like. But, yeah, that one is. Here’s what happens when it first came out.
But I’ve come to appreciate it more. Although it’s not my favorite ending of a series at all. Lost ending still blows. Okay, just throwing that. I don’t even think that’s a hot take anymore. Shall we wrap this one up? Fly the ship back through the psychedelic vortex to the real world? A couple other ones. I already did. The Kronos and Saturn is Captain Hook because he represents time in the material world and the slow process of decay, as represented by his hand getting chopped off. And then Peter Pan is basically like Hermes or maybe mercury because he flies around, he’s mischievous, and maybe that Tinkerbell could be his Promethean fire.
Like, that’s the consciousness that he’s sharing with people. It’s a little bit of a stretch. That was one inch thing. Does it matter if he’s Hermes or mercury? Does it? I mean. I know. Okay, just checking. I think it’s just greek and roman. I think it’s. I was kind of thrown out or are we seeing, like, another difference between the iterations? You know, it’s like, well, the same pattern in Chronos, essentially, is the. The same premise in here, but there, it is actually significant to talk about mercury and Saturn, because they do play off of each other astrologically, the same way that Peter Pan and Captain hook might play off of each other.
But the other one that I thought was interesting is because this happens during wartime. And the whole premise, if you simplify it, a kid gets sent to Neverland. And Neverland is this place where there’s no rules and you can fly and you can just eat mud pie. Like, it’s. It’s like, truly heaven on earth for, like, a young kid. Right? Like, that’s kind of the whole premise of Neverland is that everything there caters the kids. And it reminded me a little bit of that story of the old man in the mountain, which was the original order of the hashishin’s that Marco Polo wrote about.
But the whole way that it would work is they would snatch you when you were around, like, 13 or so years old, like, like very much lost boy’s age. It would snatch you, drug you, and then you would come back to in this, like, completely fabricated heaven on earth. And some of them said, some of, like, the. The more outlandish story said that the old man, the mountain, had, like, hollowed out the entire mountain and turned it into its own little biosphere. You know, shout out Polyshore. But he turned it into, like, a little biodome. And that when you would go in there, they had these artificial rivers that had, like, honey and milk and wine, and, you know, there would be, like, ladies all over feeding you grapes.
So they would snatch these fighting age young boys, just like the lost boys, and then tell them you’ve already died. That, like, you’re talking to God right now. You’re in heaven. Look around like, this is as good as it gets, but we’re not ready for you, so we’re going to send you back into the real world again. And once you’re in that real world, we need you to go and take out, you know, xYz, and only then do you get to come back to heaven. And if you don’t do this, you don’t come back here. You go to, like, a much worse place.
You’ll never see me again. So they send them back into the world, which is really just them drugging them again, leaving them on the side of the street. So when they come to, they’re back in the real world, and in their head, they’re like, yeah, yeah, I know I’m in this world, this mundane reality, but there’s another reality where I can fly and people never grow up. And there’s, you know, people sword fighting, and it’s magical and mystical. It’s kind of the same thing as if you brought Wendy or Peter to Neverland and taught them, here’s how lost boys fight, and then you send them back in the real world.
They retain that programming. Two responses. Once I decided my Hermes mercurys. That’s the same question. It’s actually too glib, because I got to thinking, wait a minute. Today, if I told you, Nolan, Batman and Adam West, Batman, that’s very different thing. So if we really get down to brass tacks, we might be talking about very different things. The other thing is, while you were explaining the old man of the mountain, I had recently rewatched the 1990 or 91 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles film. And that’s basically the situation in that film. I don’t think they’re drugging them, but they’re bringing the kids into this, like, heaven on earth for them with, you know, like, half pipes and all the soda and video games they can play.
And after a while, once they get comfortable, all that there’s like, hey, you know, you. Maybe you want to move up in this organization. That’s when you start getting your ninja training to become part of the Foot clan. You know, so kind of, I don’t, they don’t send them back out, but, you know, it’s another, like, kind of like, more real world never never land. However, real world we’re going to call Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, they are in New York City. So that that’s real world. But I like the idea that, like, when the footsthe Foot clan is done harassing the Ninja Turtles, they go back to, like, the inner layer and they just skateboard and play video games.
That’s pretty much in the movie. Yeah. I think it’s kind of insinuated that you wouldn’t go back to such childish things once you become a full foot clan member. But maybe you do. You know, you’re still, that is the base. So you could still, like, do a half pipe if you want. Now you got ninja skills without doing a half pipe. That’s got to be cool, right? I’ve never done a half pipe. I fell off a skateboard when I got on a skateboard once. I have done a, I’ve done a half pipe, but it was not one of those big twelve footers or whatever the hell, they had a huge one, like, in the town I grew up in.
They did that. They shut the X Games there. So they had, like, a proper. I want to say it was like, frickin 40 foot half pipe or something crazy, like. Like a Tony Hawk style one. But they also had, like, little baby ones. So I did that one, and I could do a nine foot quarter pipe. No, I remember being in a parking lot around 1992, and, you know, that’s when I started playing the bands and stuff. Maybe 93. So, you know, I definitely had the poser look. Flannel shirt, band, t shirt, baggy jeans, that sort of stuff.
Right? So looking like the poser. But I played a bass in a punk band, so I got a pass. Right? So if you can’t skateboard, you just hang out with the skateboarders. I don’t know. I don’t remember how early nineties junior high culture works, but rub your board on, like, a curb somewhere. Well, I didn’t have a board. I had a bass guitar. I had a bass guitar, not a board. I was using someone else’s board that I fell off of. Maybe that’s it. You got to have your own board, you know? Yeah. Not that athletic and things like that.
I still have on my phone the video of the one time I went skiing several years ago, filmed by a guy with a goPro behind me, where you just see me going down a very simple slope and then just suddenly, out of nowhere, falling over. So my skiing skills were not. Not up to snuff. Been skiing. Don’t do that in Florida much. No, I’ve never. I’ve never been skiing even once. Okay. No mountains, no snow. Right. So apparently I went to a very good ski place. You know, Nagano, Japan, has some of the best skiing in the world, if you are into it, which I’ve had a few friends that from Florida that went snowboarding at times, and every one of them came back with, like, a horrible ankles.
One of them had, like, a sprained ankle, and the other one actually had to get some kind of surgery because apparently it’s really easy to hurt your ankles when you’re snowboarding. Yeah, snowboarding seems a lot more. I won’t say dangerous. It seems fussier than skiing. Skiing. You just, like, you know, point yourself down. Really. I would think it would be easier, because there’s only one thing to worry about, instead of having, like. Like, the two freaking sticks and the two poles and. But you have two things. You have two legs and two arms. So on a snowboard now you have to, like, reduce that to this one thing without any ballast control.
Right. Whereas it was easier to use roller blades than it was to learn a skateboard, by far. I have rollerbladed. Yes. So I could rollerblade, but the skateboard did not work out for me. So, hey, I guess that’s that. So two is actually better than one in this case. Any more notes? You said you had a couple things. I don’t know that I’m stressing out for this podcast day because I’m like, I have nothing here, really. I mean, we’re officially longer than the movie was, so I think that’s usually a pretty decent metric. Okay, that’s cool.
Just checking because I know anything anytime I start talking on this movie, I’ve gone on to a wild tangent. You know, 15 seconds in, so which highlights is World War Two. The orphan trains, I think, is, like a huge component of that. And just the premise that they. Maybe they all die and Neverland is really them transitioning into heaven. Because once you get to Neverland, that sort of is this weird, like, heaven stay. And we only see Jane’s version because Jane’s the only one that’s kind of old enough to know what’s going on at that point.
Yeah, I guess this is just kind of a squib moment in the line of films we’re doing because the last couple were Atlantis and Monsters, Inc. The next year, Lilo and Stitch spirited away in Treasure Planet all the way. This one very much did not feel like a theatrical release, and it sounds like it was originally not going to do that. And they switched it because it was testing well, but it does not have that theatrical blockbuster feel whatsoever to it. No. And I’ve been seeing it play for the past several years on a normal size tv, like, in bits and pieces here and there, usually in Japanese.
So every once in a while they change the language to English. But, yeah, I’ve been watching this movie. Well, not watching. I’ve been standing in a room where this movie is playing in Japanese a lot, but not really engaging with it. So. So it’s kind of like I was overly familiar with it, even though it was like the first time I was watching it, which is kind of a weird way to watch a movie. She’s a. Next up is Lilo and Stitch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, I’m like, I want to talk about Lilo and Stitch.
Yeah, yeah, that’s a big one. And then again, the other part of this one being mild disappointment. Well, we’ve already done Peter Pan. Here we are doing it again, and there’s so much on either side that was like, yes, let’s get to that. But again, there are things to find in here. It’s interesting to look at. I’m glad a few of the obviously direct to dvd trickled up to theatrical releases just for our purposes because I never wanted to sit around do, like, every low budget direct to dvd sequel. That would have been a big bummer.
So we got this, we got a couple poo movies and those tv show enders, right? So, although sometimes, man, the sleepers are the crappier movies, and I’m thinking of Lizzie McGuire in particular, but that’s where they can stuff more of these like a cult messages because there’s not as much eyes on it. And I also think that, in a way, schools out. Yeah, that had a lot to talk about. You know, it had a lot to talk about. And I think that there’s, like, this interesting way of, like, if it’s going to go under the radar, we can counterbalance that by doing it, like, imbuing it with even more symbolism to, like, equal outd.
Maybe not the commercial success, but some sort of esoteric success. This is almost the end of the run of these movies being promoted to theatrical. We are going to do the Jungle Book, too, before too long. There’s a couple poo movies, but I guess that was an Eisner era thing to do because after that we’re back to. There’s movies. I don’t know, but they were like proper theatrical releases from the get go. I’m not seeing much that was not meant to go into theater. After the Jungle Book, two planes, fire and rescue, did that actually show? Well, I guess it showed in theaters because it’s on the list and we’ll be doing that like a year from now anyway.
But this is one of the last big nostalgia movies that tries to play on long, pre existing other Disney ips, right? Yeah, just Jungle Book two and a few more poos and that’s pretty much it. And then it’s going to be Pixar sequels, which were. Well, a lot of them actually were meant to be direct to dvd. They were fully renovated to be theatrical. Like, you know, nobody’s going to say toy story two looks like it’s direct to dvd, you know. All right, well, let’s keep them going, man. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. What’s going on in your never Neverland? I mean, I just talked to the printer.
I know this is. You might be watching this a year in advance, but I just talked to the printer for chosen one, issue two, and my adult occult Illuminati series. And I think they’re going to be coming next week, and I’m going to start sending them out to everyone. And once I’ve sent all those copies out for those last two campaigns, then the NASA comic.com campaign will start. So if you are listening to this in the future, there’s at least three really cool books out, lots more. But there is the chosen one.com. for the chosen one comic series, there’s nasacomic.com, comma, a comic about Stanley Kubrick directing the moon landings, and then adult occult.com, which is a naughty book for people that are not in Neverland.
This is for Captain Hook and Smee and the rest of the pirates. Only I don’t want to put Captain Hook and Smee in a closed room with one with that book. Hey, you know what? Consenting adults, they do what they want. Anything goes in international waters. You ever seen one of those crossing rituals? I’ve already got the long wig. Like, all he’s got to do is hide the mustache, and the rest of it’s kind of plays itself out on my end. I do a fair amount of podcasting. I referred to a few doing this. We’re on Patreon icastiopodcastias.
That Twilight zone chitchatter I do is at time enough podcast. You can find links to that there. The tv show space 1999 we talk about on podcast 1999 that has some weird metaphysical, occultist stuff in it from time to time, and lots of rubber monster suits as well. So that’s kind of cool. And talk about a bunch of movies that films and filth. We talk about what are supposed to be really good movies, what are supposed to be really bad movies. Blazing saddles is nowhere near that list. Well, okay, maybe it should be on the good list.
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