Occult Movie Classics w/ Jamie Hanshaw @jamiehanshaw4378 | Paranoid American Podcast 105

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The text discusses a film series called “Mysteries of Myra” which was ahead of its time. The plot is complex, involving a girl named Myra who is trying to survive a group called the Black Order and expose them to claim an inheritance. The series includes elements of hypnosis, zombies, and a cult member who wants to marry Myra for her inheritance. The series also explores themes of astral travel, technology, and spiritualism, making it a unique blend of modern and mystical elements.
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We’re going to get into all that in a second. But first, welcome to the show, Jamie Henshaw. Hi, thanks for having me. And also, I usually like to do plugs up front, so let everybody know where they can find you, where to subscribe, any cool books or projects, wink, wink, that you got going on here. I have a channel on YouTube under my name, Jamie Hanshaw, and the show is Called out of this World. I also have a secret channel on rockfin. You can find me there, where we go into the darker esoteric books, subjects that you can’t really cover for YouTube.

And I work with my husband a lot, Jay Dyer, at Jay’s Analysis. And he is also, you know, a great esoteric movie detective. So we’ve done a lot of magical movies on his channel. What else? Oh, I have two books for sale. Weird Stuff and Hollywood Mind Control right there. So they go into pop culture and all things esoteric in a cult. Outstanding. And for this interview, like I mentioned, I had you pick out five movies just because I’ve been on like a, like a movie kick lately. And so we’re gonna go through, I’m gonna mention what the five are and we’ll kind of go through them in chronological order because I think that makes sense.

Yeah, well, you said all time esoteric movies, and I was like, well, those have been so beaten to death. I mean, if I had to pick the top five, I think I came up with like eyes wide shutters, 2001 Space Odyssey, you know those. You could make entire shows out of all those. But I thought it’d be fun to go to the very, very old, like silent movies, even talking about witchcraft and technology. Well, I mean, I think they’re almost like a double play on word. Right. Like these movies are occulted themselves, in fact. Oh yeah.

Some of them. You can’t even see the entire movies if you wanted to because they don’t exist anymore. They deteriorated or the black order got their hands on them and cut out all of the important scenes maybe. Right, right. So. So the five movies, we’ll go through them chronologically. The Mysteries of Myra from 1916, the magician from 1926, which is important because if you look up magician, there’s like 20 movies called the Magician. But the one also a silent film, Metropolis from 1927, which is a classic. The seventh victim from 1943, and then Neon Demon from 2016.

I gotta ask you first, how did the seventh victim find its way onto this list? I think somebody mysteriously sent us a master list of esoteric movies that we had never heard of. And it must have been somebody who was like maybe a director and a fan of Jay’s or something, because it was very detailed and it was very. The Criterion movies were in there. And so we just kind of picked some from that list. We don’t know actually who sent it, but we have a lot of material to go through from that email. So a mystery Hollywood Buff.

That’s. That’s awesome. Just because that is another movie that I’ve become so obsessed with. I’ve actually been working on an entire video game that’s very much largely influenced by the Seventh Victim. And all the research that I like, spiraled out when I was looking into the. So we’ll get into that when we get to that movie. But I figure chronological order makes the most sense. And 1916 is Mysteries of Myra. And I got. Here’s a little tagline for anyone that’s never heard of this before. Mysteries of Myra follows this lady, Myra Maynard, as she becomes the target of this, like, black order, which is kind of like a dark secret society.

And they have dark rituals and they use mind control. You have to have mind control if you’re gonna have a dark order anyways. Right. And she teams up with this guy, Dr. Pace, and Alden, where she kind of uncovers all these different occult rituals. Astral, like literal astral attacks and the forbidden knowledge that disorder will kill anyone to protect. That’s. There’s a lot more to it. And also it’s not really complete. This was one that’s, like, deteriorated and we’re lucky to even see fragments of it. Oh, yeah. So what you have to do is just watch some stills shots and some explanations of this movie.

Like you said, it doesn’t even exist anymore. But this actually was the first film to treat, like, spiritualism and the paranormal in a scientific way. Because the character of. Was the name Peyton Alden. Peyton Alden, Yeah. Yeah. So that character, he was like a paranormal psychic investigator right of the turn of the century. And he was based on a real person, actually a real guy named Hereward Carrington. And he was a member of the Society for Psychical Research. And he authored like over a hundred books on occult and ghost hunting and, you know, what they had back then.

Spiritualism, crystal balls, seances, that kind of stuff. So he would travel around just kind of recording these phenomenon. And he was kind of a true skeptic. Like, he didn’t. He was trying to disprove what was wrong and try. But he also came across things that he couldn’t explain. So he was just very balanced in his research. But he, like I said, he made like over 100 books on the occult, conjuring, stage magic, alternative medicine. So he was quite a character. And the guy in this movie was based on him. And he also was an adventure of gadgets.

You’re going to see a lot of gadgets in Mysteries of Myra. Like the spinning wheel of Hypnosis and the trap, the ghost trap that traps the souls, like, almost like the Ghostbusters, you know, when they throw the trap and it sucks them in. So he was a type of person who was also integrating technology into paranormal spirituality. And one crazy thing about Mysteries of Myra is it actually had Aleister Crowley as the occult magic consultant on this movie. And the character, you’ll see him doing this a lot. The master, they call him the villain in Mysteries of Myra.

So this is one of the signs of their order. And, you know, that’s a really famous picture of Alshar Crowley doing that with the pyramid hat. You know, everybody when they think Crowley, they think of him doing the Sinopan or whatever. But so they are using a lot of real ritual magic influences. And even the order is based on the Order of the Golden Dawn. That was interesting, too, because even the guy that runs this black order, he puts his. You know, you were doing the little horn. I didn’t realize that the thumbs are the little horns, and that’s why it’s the pan sign.

Yeah. And when he signs his letters, which they’ll show you because it is a silent movie. So they’ll show you these handwritten letters about different orders and different sort of commands he’s sending people. And his signature also is, like, the two hands with the thumbs up as these little horns on the side. So I thought that was a cool detail. And it looks very similar. If you’ve ever seen original artwork by Alistair Crowley or his penmanship or whatever, it looks very similar to that. The other part of this. This movie sort of jogged this idea that I’ve been realizing over the last two decades.

Basically. It kind of caught me by surprise. That’s it. A lot of people, at least me, I can speak for myself. I first started learning about a call. It was maybe the early mid-90s, and it was, you know, sort of like Barnes and Noble bookshop in the corner kind of thing. But I had this idea in my head and through just research of, like, the satanic panic, that occultism sort of had this. This huge, like, I want to say Golden Age might be the wrong term, but I had, like, a. Like a big, like, rise in popularity in the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s.

But if you go back and read newspaper articles from the early 1900s and the early 19, like this one’s 1916, people were way more knowledgeable. They were in the newspaper articles. Right next to the daily news would be an article at Moloch about an article about, like, these Babylonian and Assyrian gods. Like, that was just the normal reading thing that everyone would talk at the water cooler. So that. That kind of caught me by surprise. And Myra reminded me of that. That, for example, there’s a scene when it’s like Myra is now going. Or the quote on the screen as Myra’s talking, she goes, perhaps my astral body can find Dr.

Alden if you hypnotize me. And there wasn’t a lot of explanation. So just the fact that anyone watching this movie knew what, like, an astral body was and that you could project it out and use it to, like, explore. And like, this is not 1950s, 60s MK ultra remote viewing. We’re talking early 1900s. It was. It was ubiquitous. Like the occult wasn’t this hidden thing that no one knew about. Right. So, yeah, in that time period, late 1800s, early 1900s, it was a explosion of spiritualism, they would call it. And that’s where you get like, seances and, you know, people sitting around trying to conjure ghosts and stuff.

And then it kind of died down during World War I, World War II, because people get more just pragmatic about things because, you know, you can’t really study magic when you’re trying to fight war. But then after World War II, 60s and 70s, like you said, they even write about this. Kenneth Grant has a book called the Magical Revival, where magic is coming back. Now that we’re settled down, people can sort of have time to study. You know, people aren’t shooting at you and you’re not going to war. So they’re back in the books. And this is where you get a resurgence, a new renaissance of magical revival.

So it kind of goes in waves like that after that, then you get like the 90s and 80s, which is not that occult people are more into, like, just scientism. Right. But now we have a huge resurgence in people interested in witchcraft and Kabbalah in, like you said, astral travel. Now we got all of these disclosures coming out, white papers being declassified from the CIA. They were studying this underground for sure, but they were not putting it out there in the Zeitgeist for other people to, quote, unquote, utilize. Right. They were trying to. These are now state secrets.

Magic is in that time period was very heavily studied by Russia in the Cold War. And over here through Project Paperclip and MK Ultra, like you mentioned. The other cool thing too, about this Mysteries of Myra is that you mentioned the. The guy running the show here was also an inventor. He’s got all kinds of, like, gadgets and he’s got these like ghost traps. And there’s even a. That exact moment when she’s like, hey, let’s astral project me and I’ll go and see if I can find this doctor. When she says that it doesn’t work because I guess she’s nervous or like there’s, you know, they’re, they’re worried for their safety.

So she says something like, oh, I can’t focus, but bring me downstairs and we’ll use the hypnosis machine. And that’s big revolving. But it was, again, it’s an interesting concept. In 1916, they were talking about using technology to like more quickly hypnotize somebody. So it wasn’t just a little watch. It was this weird array of mirrors and lights that would. I mean, it almost seems like something that you would see in a 2016 movie, not a 1916 movie. Oh, totally. And so what was interesting about the beginning of this is that it was generated so Myra is the daughter of a cult member who died and left a lot of money to his daughters.

But in the will, he stipulated that his if his daughters died, then the cult would get the money. So obviously the cult is trying to kill Myra. They killed her two sisters before that, and there is an attempt on her life. And this inventor has figured this out and he’s trying to save her from being killed by the cult. And that is kind of the plot of the entire thing. And so all throughout the movie, this secret society of, you know, devil worshipers are trying to cast spells, trying to unalive her, they’re trying to drive her crazy.

They have, even Myra has a secret chamber in her house, right, like you said, where they go down where her dad used to do spells. So it’s a, it’s a generational curse type of thing. Right. I was wondering if you had a read on this, because why would her dad provide an incentive for this cult to take out his three daughters? Like, it almost seems if you were to just sit and think about it for more than five seconds, you’d be like, oh, they’re gonna kill these daughters of mine. Right? Even do that. Was this a test or was he just short sighted or what that is goes along with the question of villains and why do they all trust each other to work together? And then they’re sur when their villain buddies turn on them at the end, it’s like, obviously you’re a bad guy.

Like you. Everyone’s out for number one, so why would you even trust them in the first place? But Yeah, I don’t know. Some people are just, like you said, short sighted or evil is not very smart, in my opinion. Okay, so it wasn’t like a test. It wasn’t like, hey, if you can figure this out in battle, then you’ve earned your. Your right to. All of, you know, these spoils versus they go to the cult instead. Oh, she has to earn her inheritance by overcoming the cult, maybe. Yeah, like she, like she’s not gonna just get it by rolling around on like a fainting couch all day.

She needs to go out there. Magic. Yeah. I was also looking at the, the possible inspirations that this movie provided for other ones. Like, I couldn’t find any, like direct references where a movie director said, oh, I totally got inspired from Myra. But the Mysteries of Myra does seem to set a really early prototype on the devil on film. And then also this mad scientist, a sort of figure, and even these dark underground cults with this huge sort of painted coffin with skulls on and all these elaborate filigrees. It’s sort of. I mean, I understand that a lot of the aesthetic probably came from Order of the golden dawn kind of stuff, but it also just seems like it set the pace.

Like if, if you were to watch Frankenstein right after this, you could almost see the correlation between the two. Oh, definitely. And then, you know, at the climax, I know we’re not there yet, but there’s also like a golem that they make a Frankenstein monster that they send after her. So. Yeah, that’s a very early influence on that type of character. Frankenstein. I only found episodes one through six, and then there was episode 12, but I couldn’t find before. We were talking today episode seven through 11, and apparently it goes to like 15, I think. Yeah.

Are they all available? No. So what you watched is all there is. And it was just a recreation of what they had left. And then the 12. Episode 12 was like really the only one that you could watch in its original format. Right. And there was even two lost episodes that they deemed like, too much for film. One including Voodoo, so that was cut out of the movie. Let me see, what was called too much for film. You mean like budget wise, lengthwise, or like the audience, like, they’re like, this is way too much. So one about an asylum and one where a voodoo, the master enlists a guy from Haiti to curse Myra and convince her to marry one of the characters in the cult.

And the thing I liked about this, well, I watched the parts that you watch and then there’s the website where you can click through and read the continuance of the plot and fill in the gap. I read that too. Yeah. So that’s all you get. And then so the asylum and the voodoo episode were scrapped. And what I liked about this was the plot was very intricate and there was a lot more characters and things going on and intrigues and it’s was a little more complicated than a lot of the silent movies. Of that I a million percent agree.

And in fact it was, it seemed ahead of its time. Not just because of that, but because it was a true, like episodic adventure. Like 1 through 6 are kind of split up. But if you go and you read the plots for all the other ones, there were sort of these little self contained adventures with these little like resolving subplots. But it was all about this girl Myra trying to survive the black order and maybe expose it in order to get this inheritance. And like. Yeah, one was about hypnosis, one’s about zombies. Like it kind of followed a modern day formula for how you would watch any other series.

So that was really cool to see all that. Yeah. And there’s also a intrigue where a cult member tries to get her to marry him because he wants the inheritance. And so he’s like a character that you don’t know if he’s good or bad. There’s a friend, they call him. I can’t remember his name, but he was the Hindu. Right. So you’ve also got the eastern mysticism working in there. He was the friend of Peyton. His name was literally Dr. Haji. Yeah, he is Haji. Exactly. So. And that is big with the golden dawn and Crowley too.

Not a lot of people realize that this western magic is very much informed by eastern mysticism, yoga and Hinduism. There was one other. No. Oh yeah, there was a note that said that this is the first paranormal investigation film series ever created. It was shot entirely in Ithaca, New York. But I also noticed. Have you seen the TV show from. Yeah, yeah. So they’re like stuck in another dimension and the ghosts come out at night. Exactly. Yeah. Like you’re driving and if you enter some weird space then you, you almost enter this like end loop. It’s like, was it Freddy’s dead or something? When they go into this town and they can’t get out of the town.

But the, the cool thing was that in this movie, in Mysteries of Myra, in order to get into the coven, you had to go through this hollowed out tree. And once you got into the hollowed out tree, you went into this like dungeon, like A literal, like medieval looking dungeon with sort of barge cages and cobblestone walls. And that happens almost beat for beat in the from series too. They enter these little hollowed out trees and then they teleport into like a medieval sort of tower slash dungeon area. It doesn’t go farther than that. But I couldn’t shake the.

The likeness I almost felt like from was almost doing like a. Like a nod to this movie. I forgot about From. And I’m glad you brought that up because as I was watching, I’m like, where have I seen this before? The entrance to their lair is a tree. So I was thinking, you know, like, witches do a lot in nature and, you know, the woods are the gateway to communing with the spirits. But that was a good point that you brought up from. Yeah, totally. Yeah. And once the Black order figures out that Myra is on their.

Their tail a little bit, they just knock over the tree. I think they like burn down their headquarters at some point just to cover their tracks so no one can find them. So. And again, just to hone this in, this is 1916. We’re talking the era of Jekyll island, the beginnings of Bohemian Grove and the Federal Reserve and the Golden Dawn. Like, this is contemporary with all of these things happening at this time. So it was very much the rage. Like, this was not like a weird little sleeper hit that no one would have got. I think a lot of people would have understood the context of this movie.

Oh, totally. And yeah, you mentioned the astral traveling. So there are a couple scenes where she has to be put under hypnosis to astral trav. And they even said that when, you know that contraption that. The spinning wheel of mirrors that hypnotizes her. They said that when they put the actress in front of that, she actually did go into a trance in real life. I believe it. I mean, especially if you know what the scene is about and you know that you’re supposed to be hypnotized. And if she’s even doing an unconscious level of method acting, like she was in a trance before she even got into that scene.

And that was just the trigger that she needed to fully go into a real trance. This is interesting because it’s like a trance within a trance, right? She’s already in a trance because she’s acting. And then the person that she’s acting is themselves going to a trans. And there’s one episode where she astral travels and the master actually leaves his body in astral travel and they have a fight in the astral world, and they switch bodies. Right. Like Freaky Friday style. And so now she’s in his body and he’s in hers, and. And, you know, things ensue.

But this is a really. A lot of witches talk about astral traveling, lucid dreaming. And that’s why they will have a familiar to watch over their body so that no other spirits can get into their body while they are going to their coven meeting. In. In the astral world. I have heard theories that this is what took Renee Dakar out, is that he was astral traveling and did not have someone to watch over his body and something came in and stole it from him. Yeah. So this is why you’ll have, you know, the black cat or a toad or some kind of familiar to watch over your little body that is unguarded.

I’m not trusting my body to a toad, maybe a cat. Any other notes on Mysteries of Myra, or should we move to the next one? I thought it was interesting that the spirits are driven away by ultraviolet lights. So here we also have the technology and mysticism kind of merging together. He’s realizing that the spirit world can be manipulated by modern discoveries. And this is actually how the television was created. I don’t know if you know that story. So a Golden dawn member actually made this thing because he wanted to communicate with spirits on the other side.

And he thought that they could arrange the different particles. And so that’s where you have the cathode ray tube invention that became the television. I believe that was William’s. William Crook. Yeah. And he was a famous spiritualist at that time. A lot of people think he got swindled when he got into it. But this is another really interesting concept because. Yeah. So in Mysteries of Myra, they’ve got this blend of technology and ultraviolet rays and commercial light bulbs, I think, just started to get available around the 1880s, 1890s. They became regular. So within, like the generation in which lighting, electric lighting first came available is where this movie came out.

And even Alexander Graham Bell was convinced that the. The telephone operated on spirits carrying these messages over these lines. Right. Even. Even Thomas Watson is his sidekick, confirmed all that. And also they were very heavy spiritualists, just like Williams. Crooks was just maybe even Philo Farnsworth, although he was the American version, I think, of William Crooks, or at least the CBS version. But, yeah, this was an interesting blend of technology and spiritualism. It wasn’t like these. These occultists were trying to use technology to fuse in the spiritualism. It was the scientists that were doing this. They were the ones that were really looking into this.

And then it kind of like started leaning into the occult realm because they couldn’t explain how else these. These properties took place. Right. And even the character from Futurama, the Old Scientist, is based on who you mentioned, Philo Farnswort. So fast forward to today. Now we’re getting into AI which is still merged with the mysteries of the. The other side. You know, they say this. It’s demons, or it’s a way to bring, you know, spirits from a different dimension into our dimension. So it’s not like this has died down. It’s only grown and grown and grown and become more sophisticated over time.

It’s just a Ouija board. So it is. Yeah, more expensive version of one. So they’ve got every theme in here. They’ve got crystal ball gazing, they’ve got levitating. They’ve got, you know, statues coming to life through spells. They’ve got, like, you mentioned the Frankenstein guy. They’ve summoned. Summon a fire demon. They’ve got the Elixir of Life. So there is one episode where this old couple comes to the cult and into the master and saying, we’ll help you kill Myra if you give us some. Some elixir of life. And they drink it and then, you know, become young again.

And I was really impressed with the. What do you call them, special effects. And I’m like, how did they do that? So one scene they have, you know, Myra’s spirit leaving her body. And it looks very interesting and artistic the way that they did it. What else? They have an episode called Witchcraft where Myra goes into the woods and she encounters the traditional type of witch, you know, the old crone, to give her a spell of transformation. That was episode 13, coincidentally. Yeah. They have one called the Thought Monster, which deals with, like, tulpas and aggregors and stuff like that.

The Master draws upon the evil thoughts of the 13 members of the Black Order to create this psychic Frankenstein. Right. Yeah. Those are some of the ones that we’re missing, by the way, which I’m really bummed about because those one, like, especially the Thought Monster one, I would love to actually be able to see some clips of that. Oh, totally. And even the themes of insane asylums. So there is one episode where she actually is committed to an asylum. And I mean, this is my worst fear, okay. Because I’ve always been called a crazy conspiracy theorist.

So, like, I’m so afraid of, like, ending up in a padded room or something. But so Asylums is, like, very personally scary to me. But yeah, they had. They covered like, every occult theme that could be possible in 1916 is in the mysteries of Myra, including golems, you know, voodoo. What else? I would almost call this like a 1900s version of the X Files. Like, quite literally. Totally. And it’s interesting that the choices that we made for these movies so starts in 1916 and it’s going to end in 2016. So we have a hundred years of like, occult movie technology.

There’s. So the. The next movie was the Magician. This is from 1926. And the. The basic synopsis is there’s an occultist, this guy called Oliver Haddo, and he wants to. He basically sees someone being operated on by a surgeon. This lady is making a statue of the devil. The statue falls on top of her, crushes her, and then this. This surgeon and doing one of these, like, open audience kind of surgeries. This guy Hado, he’s watching this happen and he’s fascinated with. And he almost imagines that magic is happening, that he was able to save this girl’s life.

And he gets this idea because he’s actually an alchemist, and he thinks, well, maybe the way that this surgeon saved actual life, I can use part of that process to create artificial life. So again, we go back to this hypnosis trope where he hypnotizes Margaret Dauncey, who’s the girl that ended up getting the surgery, and then he tries to basically turn her blood into a homunculus. That’s his plan. He wants to create a homunculus out of her blood. I couldn’t believe that there was a movie about a homunculus from the 1920s that I’d never even heard of before.

So thank you for even recommending this one. Yeah, this one was so interesting because it was based on a novel whose character was reportedly based on the life of Aleister Crowley. And even Crowley said, this is a pale mimicry of my life. But, you know, he didn’t like, condemn the movie or anything. He just said, my life is way more interesting. But he did kind of admit, like, yeah, these are the kind of things that we do here. And the version I watched, I don’t know what the soundtrack you got, but I got Swan Lake for the soundtrack.

I found it on YouTube. Yeah. Okay. So that kind of gave it another layer of, like, you know, creepy esoteric stuff. But yeah, so you. It’s about a magician who’s obsessed with this young girl and he wants to use her blood to do Genetic experiments and recreate life through alchemy. Right. And another person who consulted on this film was also Harry Houdini. Oh, I didn’t know that. That makes it. So this one actually had influence from Houdini and Aleister Crowley, both in the same movie. And Houdini was also a spy, so. And Crowley was a spy.

So you’ve got espionage, you’ve got magic, you’ve got medicine. And like you said in the beginning of the movie, she’s a sculptor in Paris. Right. In the artistic neighborhood of Paris. And she’s working on it. And it’s a faun, actually. Right. Like Pan. My Bible says it’s all Satan. Okay. Yeah. So exactly. It’s. She’s a sculptor of nightmares, apparently. And she’s crushed by her own demonic sculpture, which reminded me of. Do you remember that giant horse outside of Denver International Airport? Lucifer. Yeah, yeah. He fell on his creator also and killed him. Oh, good. Good reference.

That’s true. Yeah. He. Lucifer needed a sacrifice. Yeah. So they’re in the Latin Quarter of Paris and she’s a sculptor. It falls on her, injured her spine. She has paralysis and like you said, she’s getting that surgery. And the Crowley Haddo character is watching and he is a hypnotist. He’s a magician and a student of medicine altogether. So here we have not just technology, but like the medical field being rolled up into mysticism. And that reminded me of From Hell and Jack the Ripper. Right. The comic book and the movie with Johnny Depp. Yeah. Yeah. I’m wondering too, if.

If Lucifer fell on its creator, but the creator only got paralyzed and he didn’t die, would Lucifer have as much power or does it give it more power that the guy actually died? I think he is so sinister. I think that’s. Yeah. Where he got his power. And everybody knows, you know, the Denver International Airport conspiracy and they even lean into it. You know, they. When they put their signs up about, like, work and construction going on at the Denver International, it’s like we’re the Illuminati and we’re creating secret underground bases for reptiles and stuff. Like, they.

They do it tongue in cheek. And have you seen the gargoyle that talks to you? They. I’ve seen that. And they. But they also did paint over the mural or they altered mural in the early 2000s, I believe there was. I had a little bit more of like an SS Sinister approach to it. And I think they just did some touch ups. But they did some touch ups in the early 2000s. And they definitely don’t lean into that part of it. So yeah, maybe I think they lean into the funny, campy Hollywood, like pop culture version.

But there really is something to the Denver International Airport if you go online and try and find the, the original mural that was there in the 90s. Yeah, it’s super creepy. So in this we’ve got alchemy, we’ve got. And even in the stills they say it requires the heart blood of a maiden. Right. And this is going to play into Neon Demon when we talk about that because she is also a maiden or a virgin type of sacrifice. And so Margaret recovers and the magician, the hado, the care, the Crowley character, he goes to her and he tries to hypnotize her into marrying him.

But she, he doesn’t want her as a wife. He just wants her as, you know, this donor, the sacrificial blood donor. This is also a recurring theme that these occultists are going to just like hypnotize some rich lady. Yeah. And just make them their wife. That’s just. I guess that’s one of the first things you do once you become a master occultist. Well, it’s so funny that you mentioned that because it seems like a lot of people who are drawn to the occult, practicing the occult and practicing taking away someone’s free will is because they’re not very good with people.

That’s a good point. I mean, they’re not very good at, you know, relationships. And so you have to have a sex bot or you have to have it, you know, a woman under your spell because you’re a 19th century incel and you can’t get a girlfriend any other way. Just step into my hypnosis machine. Yeah, there’s a really good one called the Black Cat too that maybe we can talk about some other time. But it’s like this. So he, he. It’s a occult magician collecting women because he can’t get one on his own again. I mean, even Metropolis, which is the next movie, also they create a fembot.

Right. That’s part of the premise of this movie. Is there? So again, there’s like an ongoing theme with all of these. The magician also talks about technology, although that technology is more of like a cert, like medical advancements sort of technology. It also has this underground Frankenstein esque layer. And in fact, the, the magician movie, I would say has much better set design than Myra. Admittedly, I mean, Myra barely even exists. But the magician has like a legitimate underground alchemical lab with little beakers and sort of flasks. And it really sets the tone. And I feel, again that this movie probably inspired so many cartoons and other movies where you see an evil scientist and their evil lair coming directly out of the magician.

Oh, totally. And in the scene where Hado goes to the girl, I think her name is Margaret. Right. He puts her in a spell and they travel to another dimension where they witness some kind of Sabbath in the woods. It’s more like like a group grape or an orgy presided over by Pan. And he’s even got the Pan flu and everything. And she is overtaken by Pan in the spirit world. So this would be a weird movie if someone told me that there was a movie from 19 to a silent movie from 1926 that was guided by Houdini, inspired by Crowley.

It talks about using a maiden’s blood to create a homunculus. There’s an orgy with, like, Pan sitting there playing the flute. None of that sounds like something that would even be allowed to hit film in 1926. But it’s all here. Yeah. And a lot of this stuff was actually more common than you would think. And this is what led to things like the Hays code and stipulations of what you can put on film for public consumption and what you. Because they were just all over the place with occult themes in silent movies. Another thing about this is that.

So she’s under the spell of Haddo, but she’s also supposed to be marrying another guy. Right. Like a normal guy and have a normal life. And her psyche is, like, torn between these two guys, and she only feels safe with her fiance. And this reminded me of the new Dracula. Did you see that one yet? I have not. You talking about the new Nosferatu? Yeah, I’ve not seen that one yet. You can spoil it. If there’s something that links. I’m not going to spoil it, but. So basically, Nosferatu is a incubus that is attached to Lily Rose Depp, I think is her name.

And they are sexually bonded. And when she marries a normal man, that’s when he loses all of his rights to come visit her. And I just thought this was so interesting how, like, you know, normal marriage protects you from these kind of attacks from the spirit world. When you know your sexual needs are met and you are, like, in a covenantal relationship, then you are protected from these spirits. And so that’s kind of what they’re alluding to here in the Magician is that she’s safe when she has her fiance with her. But as soon as she leaves him, then she’s open to being, you know, molested and abused by Hado.

She’s leaving the door open, so to speak, which comes. I think that specific phrase comes up in one of these movies and. And linking other vampire movies to the same theme too. Even Bram Stoker, the. The original Bram Stoker novel, when that came out, it was sort of a. A meeting between the occult and technology, because that was using blood transfusions in order to gain this, you know, vitality of life directly through the blood. In a very similar way that in the magician that Hado is looking at seeing blood and creating artificial life, His. His takes the route of a homunculus, but they’re both inspired by the most of, you know, modern medical sort of discoveries.

So that I think that’s an interesting thread between those two. Mm, definitely. And it was interesting how in towards the end of the movie, they show again what kind of perfect victim that you should be looking for. And they actually specify the maiden should have fair skin, golden hair, blue or gray eyes. So there is something about this, genetic markers of those traits that they are very interested in. Right. This. This is setting off, like, my Project Monarch alarms. Right, Right. Where you’re. You’re through generational. You’re trying to breed this, like, epigenetic perfect specimen that can just jump in and out of trances.

I mean, literally, the actress that was playing Myra would have been one of those people in real life, someone that can just switch in and out of trances at the drop of a hat. Definitely. So her fiance Ashley follows her. They don’t give up. They find out her free will was taken away when she marries Hado instead of the guy she was supposed to marry. But they make a point that he didn’t actually want to be wedded to her, he just wanted her for the experiment. Right. He intends to kill her for the magic. And there’s a scene where they take her to a sanatorium and Haddo goes to an insane asylum.

So there’s another mention of, like, asylums which were really big in the turn of the century too. And he escapes that. He steals back Margaret, he does the experiment, but then the fiance, like, busts in at the very last minute. And like you were mentioning, there is, like, a little guy, like a little short person in the movie who is like the homunculus or the. The golem. Yeah. At the very least, he’s like an Igor kind of character. You’re not explicit about him being homunculus and the fact that Hado Is. Is just now trying to create an artificial being with someone else’s blood.

Makes me feel that he hasn’t created an actual homunculus. Although maybe this homunculus he made with the wet work and he created Gur. And then he, like, impregnated the gurney, raised it up, but it only got so far. And he was. Was trying to do something different maybe. Right. Maybe he was like the first try or something. He was a misfire. Yeah, yeah. And at the very end, he is burned up in his own wickedness. Right? That’s right. And. And that’s that last scene when he’s hanging on for dear life and he’s like, gonna fall into this, like, pit of fire, essentially.

He’s going to hell. He didn’t really look like a homunculus in that point. He just looked like a small guy. But who. Who knows, right? Any. Any last thoughts on the magician? No, I think we covered it all. Okay, good. Well, the next one’s a doozy. Oh, sorry, did you have something else? Oh, no. Yeah. So Metropolis was actually one of the real top five esoteric movies of all time on my list. And I’ve actually done several articles and I’ve included Metropolis in my book. You can make a comment while I look for this pictures. Well, this one is not just for occultists, but anyone that likes sci fi, that likes movies, that likes cinematography, any of that special effects set design.

This movie is basically highlighted as one of the trendsetters of. Of all time. In fact, if you watch any other modern movie, you’ll probably see some kind of nods, not just to the perspectives that Fritz Lang puts together. And it’s also phenomenal that this is a silent movie, but it still caps your attention. And it’s like two and a half freaking hours. This is not a short, little quick movie. In my mind, this was sort of the version of Michael Bay Transformers that you could get, at least in terms of throwing money at something. Although this is way more elaborate and way more interesting to look at than any Transformers movie like this.

The set design in this movie is phenomenal. German expressionist. That’s what this movie is, is one of the first genres to put Satanism on film. Right. And it was actually a big influence of Anton lavey, the high priest of the Church of Satan. He traveled to Germany, he got obsessed with Fritz Lang in German expressionist movies, and that really influenced him and his. His aesthetic for creating the Church of Satan. And even one of the rituals I believe is based on Metropolis. Right. And to even peel that back a little bit more. The, the German folklore of this, from what I can tell, gave rise to the very first version of Satan in Hollywood.

And I mean Hollywood, in like American Hollywood, it was F and Marguerite, which was created by none other than Thomas Edison. Talking about this connection between inventors and electricity and like Satan on film, but which itself was a remake of another version of FA Margarite that came from a German director. I don’t know if it was Fritz Lang, but it was definitely inspired by that. So. And you know, that was also originally a ghost, I believe, story. So here we’ve got, you know, Germany directly influenced Satan even being in Hollywood. And then like we wouldn’t have Neon demon if it weren’t for Thomas Edison putting the devil into the first American satanic movie.

I think that was from 1900 or like 1899 or something. Good point. Yeah. Metropolis is another one that’s like the plot is very intricate and deep. So what we’re talking about is social stratification. Darwinian theory of, you know, might is right. What you have at the beginning of the movie is a two tiered system. So you have the aristocrats that live above ground and they live a very soft life, playboy life. The Sun Club, that’s what they call themselves. Yes. And their city is very utopian. It’s very modern, it’s very spacey, it’s very Tomorrowland. Right. But the actual thing that runs the city is the workers underground, which are just, just, you know, trudging.

They’re all, they’re basically portrayed as gears in a machine. So human beings are sacrificed and there’s even a scene where they envision themselves marching to work through the mouth of Moloch who’s like going like this and it actually says Moloch on it. So you have this idea that this wealth in utopia is actually bought at a price of, you know, human life. And the people are ground under the gears of this city and there has to be some kind of savior to go bring this gospel to them. I mean, there’s a lot of Christian themes in this, I mean, with Maria and the, the visions.

And Freder is supposed to be sort of like a Christ and his dad is like God the father. And then you have the devil character whose name is Rotwang, who’s the evil scientist. And Rotwang is trying to create a sex bot. He’s trying to recreate his ex girlfriend who happens to be Freder’s mom. Right. But he steals Frederick’s girlfriend to make the robot come alive and What I noticed when Beyonce was on tour like the 2000s and like 2007 to, you know, 2015, she was using this Metropolis aesthetic. So here you see Beyonce in concert, and the robot look exactly the same.

And part of the movie is that Rotwing had to sacrifice his hand to animate the robot. And I mean, you’ve got technology and Satanism right here, Mary. High technology. I mean, this is way beyond its time. And it even looks like C3PO a little bit too. Right. But here you’ve got Beyonce with her robotic hand and Rotwang with his robotic hand. So he’s a transhumanist also, because he’s also built this, you know, robotic prosthetic that he had to sacrifice his hand to make this robot. So eventually the robot becomes the Whore of Babylon, right? And the inverted pentagram in that shot with Beyonce, that’s directly out of this movie too.

When we first see this big reveal of the robot, Maria, it’s right in front of this inverted pentagram. So what he does is he sends this robot up to the surface and she comes out of the floor of this dance club for the Aristocrats on the Beast of Revelation. Like, it has details of apocalypse and technology. And she is riding, you know, the 10, 10 headed beast. And she comes out, she does this dance, which looks goofy to us in this day and age because it’s very like, bird like the dance that she does. But it drives the Aristocrats into this, like, lustful frenzy and causes chaos in the city.

And they all start fighting each other, you know, like, pandemonium breaks out because of her dancing. This is basically. That was the 1920s version of twerking. Exactly. And that’s why, you know, I put it together with Beyonce and all that. Like, she’s tainted now compared to what you have going on in pop culture music even 10 years ago. But yeah, so let’s see the mention about the hand. This is actually a huge deal because one of the quotes from the Silent Movie, but it says that the mediator between the head and the hands must be the heart.

And this, I guess if you were to extrapolate this to AI kind of discussions, right, this is like saying the thing that happens in a human head, like human ingenuity, and then the function of manifesting something with your hands, that there has to be something coordinating between those two. And I guess if. If you’re gonna do the most surface level, it’s like, oh, there’s no soul in that art. Or there’s no soul in that Music, like, if it was just all AI and the computer did it all, you have to have, like, a human soul in between those two, which feels very Rosicrucian in a way.

It feels very much like in order to create something worthy of praise or worthy of venerating a God, then you have to have some kind of humanity intervene at some point in the process. Right. And in our church, they talk about there has to be a mediation between the belly and the brain. So the stomach represents your desires. Not that they’re all sinful, but, you know, like your base bodily desires. And then you have your intellect, and they have to meet at your heart. And this is kind of an idea of like Christ in the sacred heart.

Right. And so the hero of the movie has to integrate the heart and release the slaves from underground and get the intelligentsia or the aristocrats to stop exploiting the workers. And then I just found this part where I mentioned a little while ago, says one of the rituals of the Church of Satan is called Die Elektrickschen Vorspiel and inspired by the film Metropolis, neon and strobe lights. So here we have neon are employed in an effort to charge the ritual chamber with energy. For Satanist, Metropolis is not a cautionary tale, but a blueprint for the future.

So this is. Is a target that they want. This is not something to be healed. Anton Leves saw that the mind of humanity was being controlled through manipulation of electronic media and television in particular. He believed it to be the ultimate goal of the political powers to create through television, the uniform society. And yeah, Anton lavey was an interesting character because he got almost all of his influence through television and movies. In fact, his entire aesthetic, aesthetic of the shaved head and the pointy kind of what I got going on here, but his entire aesthetic was based on an episode of Wild Wild west with Don Rickles, I believe.

No. Was it Don Rickles that played Asmodeus, which was like this evil cult leader? And after Anton Lavey saw this portrayal of like, a dark evil cult and the shaved head and the beard, he basically went to work the next night in his cabaret, playing piano. And at the end of that performance, he stood up and he shaved his head and he declared that as the first meeting of the. The Church of Satan. And that. So, like, his inspiration came directly from the television for so much of what he. Which. Which makes sense because what he gave back into the world was just getting more actors and musicians and celebrities into the fold, so that now they would put that energy back into Movies and back into tv.

And he actually said that the television was the Satanic altar. And that took the place of some kind of, you know, home veneration spot or something that you have for your spirituality that is now replaced by television. And that’s where you get your morality from. That’s so great. Yeah, these are like the scrying mirrors. They’re like the looking mirrors of the Obsidian. And. And yeah, instead. Instead of a picture of Jesus that you pray to, you just like stick a big flat screen TV in that same spot and give it all your attention. Exactly. He also praised the New Age movement too, saying that this is the path to Satanism.

And he was happy about people getting into New Age spirituality. I want to keep moving, so we’ve got time to get the other ones. The. The other movie which we were talking about when we first started was the Seventh Victim. And coincidentally enough, this also has a huge tie in with 1890s Satanism and television and movies and what our impression of Satanism is today. In fact, it took place more or less in the Dakota Building, which is the same building in which Rosemary’s Baby takes place, which is also where the Dakota Building was. The actual place that Val Lewton.

Val Lewton is. Is the guy that helped produce this. I believe it was written by DeWitt Bodine for RKO, but it was completely rewritten. DeWitt Boudin rewrote the entire movie under the. The sort of oversight of Val Lewton, who was acting as the producer on this. And val Lewton got DeWitt Bodine an actual interview with a real life Satanic coven in the mid-1930s in order for him to write this. And he basically goes to like the. To Manhattan, like an upscale side of Manhattan, and meets with this coven. And what they’re doing is they’re casting spells against the Germans because this was leading up to World War II.

So they were actually. He goes into this Satanic coven, but the satanic coven is using, I guess you would call this white magic to like, fend off Hitler and fend off the Germans and, and the war early. But even this coven in the movie, the Seventh Victim, they call themselves Paladists. And the Paladins connect to Leo Taxel’s report on the Freemasons that were worshiping Baphomet and put out this mysteries of Freemasonry that took the world kind of by storm. And it’s all. All this is packaged up in this one movie, the Seventh Victim. And it’s cited as one of the very first like lesbian movies, like mainstream movies.

That’s accepted by like, the. The Alphabet crew. And this was the inspiration for Psycho. And a lot of Hitchcocks take on horror because the other part Lewton aesthetic was that he preferred not to do monster movies. When. When the Seventh Victim was written, they were competing against Universal monsters. So the Mummy and Frankenstein and Wolfman and that they kind of hired them to do this movie and Cat People. And I think there was like a third one in this block. But Val Lewton was very specifically, did not want to show the horror on camera. He wanted to show the horror off camera.

And that’s where you get the shower scene that gets lifted out of the Seventh Victim into Psycho. But just that entire aesthetic of. Of, like, don’t show. Like, tell, don’t show, which is kind of inverting the rule of Hollywood. But that’s a Valutin thing that you see happen in the Seventh Victim. Yeah, like the notion that your mind fills in the gaps with more terrifying things that they could even think of. Right. Examples is don’t. Don’t show someone getting stabbed and like blood squirting out. You show someone go to stab, and then all of a sudden blood will come from under a door.

And that was kind of like a Valutin stuff. Yes. So this is actually a Criterion Collection movie. And it has Mary is the good girl, and then her sister Jacqueline is kind of the dark half of that. Right. So Mary is the. The virginal character and Jacqueline is the part of the coven. And in the opening scene, it actually has a quote from John Donne on the stained glass window at the Catholic school that Mary is attending says, I run to death and death meets me fast. So there’s a lot of over overtures of unaliving yourself in this movie.

And which actually ties in a lot the more research I do into specifically Skull and Bones and Illuminati and even Bohemian Grove. They have these patron saints of suicide. So it’s. It’s weird that these very specific cults actually look favorably upon this one practice that is virtually unheard of in every other religion across history and time, with a small exception of, like, the Cathars, I think, because they had this thing called Endora where they were allowed to do it. And then you’ve got Mormons have, like a second anointing. And then there was one other group that I think, like, it’s only allowed in certain circumstances when you’re surrounded by the enemy.

And the only other option is even worse than that. I think the Maccabees also had like. But without. With those three exceptions, universally offing yourself is. Is basically against the rules. Whatever religion you’re talking about, except these freaking. These covens and these cults and these ones. It’s almost except. And Heaven’s Gate, I guess would be another example of that. Well, in the spirit world that is pretty much the ultimate victory that the demonic can win is getting you to kill yourself because that is the one sin that you cannot repent from from. Right? And so if, if I could pick the top three things that demons want you to be involved in is, you know, B U T T stuff.

Ditto kids and unalive yourself. So those are like the big things to watch out for. But this movie actually dives right into that where she even has a room set apart for herself to hang herself on the day that she chooses to. So the beginning of the movie, the Good girl Mary. And they’re always named Mary too. Isn’t that funny? Her tuition is due and her family, her sister has not paid it and her sister has gone missing. So Mary has to leave school and go to New York City and find out what has happened to Jacqueline.

And come to find out, Jacqueline has a makeup company. She owns a very successful cosmetics company company. So here we’re tying in some big business into satanic cults. Even so far as the logo of the cosmetics company was also the sigil of the cult. This is another interesting note too that the seventh Victim was making a really good point of. And this again modeled after a real satanic cult that do it. Boudin Bodine actually went and interviewed as a prep for this movie. So a lot of what, what he came up with was based on his real life experience into this.

And it took him by surprise because prior to this, even in the Black Order, I guess there was an idea that it was the elites of society because they had all this money and all this time and all these resources and they were bored. I mean in the Seventh Victim, all of the people in this cult essentially are alluding to how bored and disappointed they are are and everything else in life. And they’ve kind of found themselves at this low point just trying to find something to kind of make them feel alive. But this premise in the seventh victim, I would argue from 1943 on, it takes a different trajectory where over time in, in the 50s, 60s and 70s now the Satanists become these like transients that live in their vans and under bridges and they’re like doing drugs and they’re sort of these undependable outcasts to society.

But really the, The. Yeah, but the. Yeah, the. The goth kids. But the early 1900s, it was the exact opposite that Satanists and occultists, they were the elite. They were people that were rich and had all these resources and could afford to put a secret bookshelf, you know, door into their mansion. It wasn’t about Charles Manson’s and. And sort of, you know, like Ed Gein’s living out in the middle of the sticks. Yeah, yeah. Titans of industry. And that also hearkens back to the mysteries of Myra, where he was a very wealthy aristocrat, also in the cult.

Right. So they’re not disenfranchised weirdos. They’re actually pillars of the community who live a double life. And one of the interesting things about this is that one of the places she goes to look for her sister is Dante’s restaurant. Right. Another devil reference. Yeah, German devil reference. So you’ve got Dante in the circles of hell. And above Dante’s restaurant is where she had rented a room. Room or her husband had rented a room for her to go, you know, unalive herself whenever she wanted to. And Mary is looking for her and she sends a detective down this dark hallway to see if his sister.

Her sister is there. And he gets killed. And you don’t find out till later that it was actually Jacqueline that killed the detective by accident because she thought the cult was coming after her. Someone who is taking Mary to see Jacqueline from the cult, he actually there. They enter this house with two staircases, right? And he says, a light, whichever staircase you want. But I like the left because it’s the more sinister path or something like that. Did you catch that? I didn’t catch that. Yeah, you’re talking about the Left Hand Path that they were talking about.

No, I totally missed that. And, yeah, so these devil worshipers, like you said, they call themselves the Paladins. And then I had to look that up because I’d never heard them called that before. And that led me to what you were just talking about, the Taxel Hoax, which was this 1890s, like, expose of secret devil worship society inside the Freemasons that was based in Charleston, South Carolina, and had to do with Albert pike and Giuseppe Mazzini. So this is a really interesting story because it’s like, is this true or not? They said it was a hoax.

Well, first they came out and said, we have all this evidence. And then they backtracked and said, no, it’s a hoax. And so now everybody’s super confused about. Well, are they or aren’t they? Right, so it’s like a weird psyop. Well, Leo Taxel is an interesting character. So Leo Taxel was an 8. He was a satirical atheist. He was sort of what you would look at like an Internet Twitter troll now. Someone that would just go and post inflammatory statements about people and then like joke about it. And again, if you look at the other works by Leo Taxel, the other one is, is called the Infants Bible or the Idiot’s Bible, depending on your interpretation of it.

And it basically is just a mockery of the entire Bible. It’s an illustrated mockery. For example, there’s a page where Joseph is looking at a pregnant Mary and he’s going, he’s saying something like really? Mary A pigeon? Like it’s. It was this like funny thing. But. But Leo Taxel was unapolog atheist and he had a bone to pick with the Catholic Church for obvious atheistic reasons. And he had a bone to pick with Freemasonry and he realized that they were all, they were both sort of opposed or at least it was a one sided, lopsided version where the Catholic Church had banned Freemasonry somewhat prior to this, around a couple times, like three or four times.

And he was like, man, if I can pit these two entities against each other, other, what a great story that would be. So he makes the mysteries of Freemasonry specifically to turn the Catholic Church against Freemasonry, releases it and after it, it, you know, storms the world and the Catholic Church has to now that the Pope has to talk about it and it has to talk about Freemasonry again. And when the Pope actually summons Leo Taxel to come to the Vatican and bring your witness, the, this witness that was apparently a paladin that had seen all these sacrifices and them worshiping Baphomet and doing all of the things that you hear accused.

And when he shows up to the Vatican, he brings his typewriter and he points at the typewriter and he’s like, here’s my witness. And at that point it was like, got you. Like you guys are a bunch of idiots for falling for all this. So that, so that was the original sequence of events for when this came out out. And then afterwards he split up with his partner. But his partner kept writing more and more of these exposes even though Leo Taxel, anytime he was asked about this, he was kind of like, yeah, I got him good, didn’t I? I trolled the hell out of them, didn’t I.

As opposed to, like, revealing the secrets and then like, oh, no, I didn’t reveal the secrets. It was. It was very much a trolling. Like, I’m laughing at you now. The whole world’s laughing at you. You. Which is interesting that not only does it inspire the seventh victim 50 years later, but like, you mentioned, that letter between. Alleged letter between Albert pike and Giuseppe Mazzini gets cited today about, like, World War iii prophecies in 2025. But that Al also came directly from these claims under a pen name of Leo Taxel. And Leo Taxel was also a pen name of the.

The actual guy. So it’s like all these layers. It. It is a fascinating rabbit hole to go down. I’ve got a original copy of his book from, like, 1886, I think. Oh, wow. Yeah, it is a very confusing labyrinth of ideas. And it’s just so funny that trolling is nothing new, right? Not at all. Yeah, he made money off of trolling. And, yeah, he would have fit so well in with, like, those Elon books, for sure. That engagement money on X. And then, yeah, the inspiration on this movie and Hitchcock in general and Psycho. And also this has been cited as, like, an unofficial prequel to Cat People, which was also an RKO, DeWitt Bodine, Val Lewton horror movie.

And I think there was also, like, a Return of the Cat People or something. But this, this, originally all three were written together because back then they would basically sign on a producer and a director and a writer and just be like, here’s the names of the movies. They’re already funded. We’ve already got everything all lined up. We don’t know what the movie’s about. We just got the names. You guys go and figure this out. So after a while, they split these three movies, and the seventh victim becomes one of them that comes out. Even though I believe it came out after Cat People, it was originally written as the prequel to Cat People People.

That’s interesting. Yeah. So the cult wants Jacqueline, the sister, dead because she was seeing a psychiatrist for her depression and for her, you know, suicide ideation. And they think that Jacqueline was revealing the secret. So it’s always about revealing the secrets, and the penalty for that is death. And that’s a very Masonic thing. If you look at, you know, the curses that you agree to if you reveal these Masonic secrets, they’re super, like, gory. I mean, your throat slid and your stomach cut open and the birds come peck at it, and, like, they leave your guts out.

Like, these are the punishments for revealing like the. The mysteries of the cult. The UK and I think 1987 did come out and say, we won’t cut your tongue out anymore. Oh, okay, okay. Like no more. But that was only the UK as far as I know. The American Freemasonry has. Has not said that. So I guess the implication is they will still cut your tongue out. Well, and the noose, that’s also a Masonic symbol too. You know, the cable toe that they put around your neck, that’s in the seventh victim. Right. And what else? Question.

Do you know where the pictures are that I took out the stack? Let’s see. Oh, like you said, there’s skittle stuff in this. The Alphabet stuff. It was very. I mean, you could interpret it that way because it was just a girl who was upset. Maybe they cut out some scenes about this, but one of the girls who worked at Jacqueline’s factory really loved her and didn’t want her to die. But I didn’t see any romance. I didn’t pick up on that either. But every time I’ve done like a research into the movie and the production, it’s.

It constantly gets cited as one of these milestones in cinema of like, oh my God, I can’t believe they so craftfully wove in this. This skittle sort of reference into this. I get watching it now. It’s so subtle that you don’t even see it it. But this movie makes itself onto the top of like the LGBT sort of like IMDb top 10 lists a lot for this specific reason that it was. And also Cat People, the exact same premise. It’s kind of reaching in my opinion. But one thing that they mention in this movie is, well, character that’s not really fleshed out is the.

The next door neighbor of the room where the noose is at, she is. Has like a term illness. And you just see her going in and out of her room to the bathroom whenever and come back. But at the very end, they have this discussion about there’s a lady who really wants to live her life, but she’s going to die. And she steps out to have like one last night on the town before she succumbs to her illness. And then javelin a perfectly healthy. After she decides not to kill herself with the coven and the way that they want her to poison herself, she chooses to go into the noose room and you just hear like a bump or something and you.

I guess you’re supposed to think that’s the chair falling all over. And her. Classic Val Lewtin style. Yeah, so the end is very somber. So the. The lady who wants to live is going to die, and she’s going out for her one last hurrah on the town. And then Jacqueline dies of her own accord. Again, the. The most fascinating part of this movie to me, aside from the Paladins backstory and the fact that it was based on an actual meeting, again, is this Dakota building connection. Because in Rosemary’s Baby, it’s basically the same premise that this.

This upper elite society in Greenwich Village in the literal Dakota building building are all meeting and you know, forming these. These sort of these plans, these secret plans with each other. I thought it was interesting that the. The coven did not believe in murder, so to speak. They. But they do peer pressure you into taking your own life another. I guess that’s the ultimate sin. If you can get someone else to commit the ultimate sin, then that’s the best sacrifice that you can make. Yeah. Does that seem like Moloch would appreciate it more if you just jump into the fire yourself versus someone throwing you into it? Yeah.

Yeah. Because that’s of your own free will. This is also. If you look at the old artifacts they find in like these tophets and these actual sacrificial areas in Carthage and Tunisia and elsewhere where they would put masks on the. The sacrifices, usually children, but they would have these little masks. They would put them on that are smiling. They would have these. These sort of like, you know, clay fired masks because it was seen as an offense to Malik if you went screaming or crying or frowning. So they kind of like enforced you to be smiling or laughing as to not offend the God.

Because otherwise, I guess the. The. The sacrifice like cancels itself out if he. If he knows that you’re. You’re not happy at the time of doing it. That’s so Crows. Any other thoughts on the seventh victim? No. I went through all my notes on here. That’s pretty much it. Well, the. The last one that we picked out to talk about is Neon. The neon demon from 2016. Yeah. This has got Elle Fanning and Jenna Malone and Christina Hendricks is in it. It’s got a whole bunch of people that you probably recognize, but it’s a movie not a lot of people have seen.

And it remind. Before we even talk about this movie, I was curious. Have you seen the substance with. Yeah. And Margaret Collie. So there’s definitely a substance kind of connection here. There’s another one, even lesser known called Starry Eyes. Have you ever seen Starry Eyes? Yeah. So that like all like when I was watching the Neon Demon, those two movies, I kept thinking about both of those because they kind of share the. Not just the theme, but the aesthetics too. Definitely. Neon Demon is a lot like Starry Eyes in that it is about, you know, an ingenue who is trying to break into the Hollywood industry.

And by that I mean fashion, music, movies, movies, etc. Right. And this one is kind of focused in the fashion industry, which, as we now well know, is very cloaked in darkness. Remember the Balenciaga stuff a couple years ago? So there’s a lot of nefarious characters in the fashion industry. And this movie just goes from bad to worse. And I don’t mean in a artistic way. I mean, in like. Like, for her starts out bad, and it just goes worse, worse, worse, worse, worse. Right. And the beginning scene is like a photo shoot where they are marrying.

Sex and death, violence and lust. Or, you know, like high fashion and blood. Right. Yeah. It opens up and she’s going through this amateur photography shooting shoot where she’s, like, laying back on a couch and she’s got, you know, like, lingerie on or something, and her neck is cut open and there’s blood all over the couch and her boyfriend’s there just, like, snapping a bunch of pictures. So I mean, none of it is surprising. Like, all of the horrible things that start happening, they. They telegraph every single event right before it happens in this movie. They almost tell you exactly what’s about to happen, and then it happens.

So, yeah, I. It. I almost felt like part of that is this revelation of the method. They’re showing that every time something bad happens to L. Or in this. In the movie, I think her name is Jesse. Every time something bad’s about to happen to Jesse, someone does tell her right before it happens, and it kind of lets her. She’s got an opportunity. She’s always got an out where she can be like, you know what? I’m going back home to Minnesota, wherever the hell she came from. But she doesn’t. She keeps. Keeps diving headfirst into this until she kind of becomes one of these Hollywood people, quite literally, in a way.

Yeah. So the first scene is definitely a foreshadowing of her fate in this fashion industry because she is an innocent. And the other girls, no one around her is innocent. They have already gone through the initiation of the dark side. I mean, this is basically a coven of witches that comes upon Jesse as she’s trying to be a model. She’s an orphan. And cults love people who have no support system. Right. Because who you gonna go to? And in one of the beginning scenes, she goes to see Christina Hendricks. And there’s a lot of, like, mean girl stuff in here.

So they’re constantly complimenting her and tearing her down at the same time. Time. So Christina Hendrix says, you’re very fit. I would never call you fat, but that doesn’t mean that a photographer won’t. Some people say, yeah, some people might say. And yeah, so she. She’s got that. The je ne sais quoi, right? She’s got the innocence. They. They even call her a deer in the headlights at one point because she’s not tainted like these other people. And she even says a line. She says, I don’t want to be them. They want to be me. Because she is a virgin and she has the blood that they want.

Ironically, she says that after she kind of becomes tainted, like, she’s already gone past the threshold. Like she’s crossed the point of no return when she says that. Because there’s all. There’s lot of this movie has a lot of really cool, interesting, like, aesthetic themes. And one of those is that she doesn’t really pay attention to mirrors a whole lot in the beginning. She doesn’t care about makeup in the beginning of this movie. And then as soon as she goes to this transformation, which I’m sure we’ll talk about in detail, but she goes to this transformation.

And after she transforms, now she’s obsessed with mirrors. And now the movie starts showing you mirrors constantly. She cuts herself on a mirror, mirror. She kisses a mirror. And then at the. The very end, as she’s like, obsessing over this mirror, that ends up being her, like, main downfall. And that’s when she says, you know, I don’t want to be like them. They want to be like me. It’s after she starts obsessing over this. This. This scrying mirror. So there’s a lot of flemic themes in this. I think on the wall of one of the girls apartment, it actually says, do without Wilt.

And in the script. So Jay covered this in esoteric Hollywood 2. And facelit analyzer did a really good deep dive on this movie too. So shout out to both of those guys. But BLA said that in the script of the movie, Ruby actually has a copy of a Crowley book. So they are definitely the coven of witches. So Jesse, the innocent girl, comes upon these three girls, and it’s very Shakespearean in their weird sisters, right? And they’re the ones taking her down this Path of initiation. And they go to this party, and you have, you know, this bondage ritual at this club, and she starts getting these jobs over the other models who are more connected and more experience than her.

Right? And there’s this one scene where she’s up against, like, a whole room of models, and they’re walking around in their underwear. And honestly, I mean, they all have the same body type. They all have a similar aesthetic. There’s nothing really to pick out that differentiates one from another. But she has that thing which is innocence. And. And the casting director is like, her. I’ve been waiting for her because she’s untainted by this industry. Right. Well, also, the two girls. Jenna Malone is Ruby, and she kind of acts as, like, a mentor to Jesse. She’s the one that drives her around to all these photo shoots and introduces her to all these directors and producers.

But then also, also her other two friends, I just call them both Sour Milk because they’re in a. In a cafe at some point, and they’re like, oh, you’re the new girl. You’re the new, you know, hot thing that everyone wants. And one of the girls tells the other one, it’s like, well, what do you want? Sour milk or fresh meat? You know, they want the fresh meat. So both of those girls in this movie, they’re. They’re like 29. I think they’re, like, about to turn 30. So in the. The fashion world, I guess 29 is sour milk.

Milk. And Elle Fanning, Jesse, in this movie, when she’s talking to Christina Hendricks, there’s this line where she’s like, well, how old are you? And I think she’s honest. She’s, like, only 16. And she was only 16 when they were making this movie. 16 or 17. But Christina Hendricks tells her, well, if anyone asks, tell them that you’re 19. Don’t say 18, because it’s two on the news nose, but tell them that you’re 19. And Jesse’s like, oh, no one’s gonna believe that, right? Like, I look so young. Young. But then Christina Hendricks says, honey, people believe what they’re told.

And I just. I just thought that her telling her that again was this telegraphing of the. The revelation of the method where she’s telling her right now, like, people believe what they’re told and that everything that I just told you and everything you’re about to hear, you’re only going to believe it because just someone is saying it to you. But none of this is true. So that was another one of these, these outs. But also was the thing that separated her from every other girl that’s going up in these casting is she’s literally illegal, she’s underage and she’s lying about being this age.

And that’s why all these directors, like I almost, if, if they’re like agents of the, of the devil. Right. If they’re all like demons or something, they’re like, oh, here’s this virgin that’s willing to break the, the laws. Right. She’s willing to bend the rules. So maybe there’s something here that we can, we can elicit out of, of her. Well, she’s that maiden that they specified in the Magician. You know, she’s the young, fair skinned, blonde hair, blue eyed, genetic phenotype that they are looking for. And, and emphasis on the fair skin because there’s also a scene later on where Jenna Malone or Ruby in this movie, I guess she just moonlights as this sort of mentor figure that connects everyone.

What she really does, she’s a mortician and she does the, the makeup on these dead bodies. Bodies. And she starts kind of like making out on this dead body. It’s like a proxy to what she’s thinking about with, with Jesse. And I was just wondering in that scene, is that because Jesse’s skin is so fair that like she almost looks like a corpse? And that’s just more alluring to Ruby because like she looks like a corpse. That was so hard to watch. I mean, I don’t, I don’t necessarily recommend it, watching this movie if you’re easily grossed out because I had to look away.

I mean, she climbs on a, you know, a dead body and does her thing. And so I think. Do you remember that scene where so Jesse is living in this fleabag motel until she makes it. Right, right. With Keanu Reeves as a landlord. Right. And there’s a scene where a mountain lion gets in her room and trashes her room. And I’m thinking, is this mountain lion a cougar? Is this alluding to the old women preying on younger women because of, you know, the cougarness? Or is it just like the industry that consumes you like a beast? I don’t know.

But Jenna Malone is definitely the predator in this scenario. Yeah, I felt like there was something. I don’t know how much I want to bend over backwards to make the connections, but there’s a certain line when Jesse, Jesse’s boyfriend goes to talk to Keanu Reeves because he was. Because he gets called in when she realizes There’s a mountain lion in her room, right? And she calls the. The super over, and he’s like, you’re gonna. You’re gonna pay for this, right? Because there’s a freaking mountain in the room, and it’s, like, destroyed the room. He’s like, you’re gonna pay for this.

So a few days later, the boyfriend goes to talk to Keanu Reeves, and he’s like, I don’t think she should have to pay for this as a mountain lion. Lion. Any. And Keanu Reeves is like, oh, room 212. The wild cat, right? Yeah. That’s some real hard candy. So, like, is she taught. Is he talking about Jesse is the wildcat now? And he’s almost not even acknowledging that an actual mountain lion was in the room. He’s alluding to a quote unquote, wildcat. Yeah, well, he even says, like, he attempts to tempt the boyfriend to buy something from him.

And this is a very ambiguous. Like, is this a human traff hotel? Is Keanu part of the underground railroad of girls? Because there’s a scene where Jesse’s asleep in the bed, and Keanu comes in and puts a knife down her throat. And she wakes up and hears somebody else being attacked in the room next door door. And so are we supposed to think that she’s dissociating from her own graping, or is she just hearing what’s going on next door? And. And in relation to this, there’s another weird thing that he says that makes me think, yeah, this is like a trafficking hotel or something’s going on.

Because when the. The boyfriend is like, hey, I don’t think she’d have to pay for this, he goes, well, who left the door open? It wasn’t you. It wasn’t me. You know, and he’s. And he’s kind of implying. And at that moment, I was like, are we talking about a literal door? Like the sliding glass door that the. The mountain line came through? Are we talking about Jesse left her door open and that she’s the one that’s making herself available to all these psychic attacks and all this occult influence? She. She literally left the door open.

So it’s not anyone’s fault. It’s her fault. Fault. Like, I guess, is this victim blaming or is this rightful pointing out of this revelation? No, good point. Because she, of her own, again, free will goes down every path that is laid out for her, even though she is forewarned somehow that this is kind of, like, dangerous even to the photographer who is kind of like a Terry Richardson character, right? Yeah, I recognize him from Dexter, I think. Uh huh. So she, at one point she’s finally being shot by the most famous photographer in the industry and he paints her all with gold.

So he’s making her like this golden idol and he says, he kicks Jenna Malone out and says this is a closed set. So we all know what that’s kind of alluding to. Some kind of molestation and we all know about Terry Richardson. Another thing I thought that was interesting about this was the geometry. So you’ve got all these triangles, you’ve got these angles. When she has visions, it’s, there’s like. So geometry is very important to occultists and esoterica. You’ve got, you know, Pythagoras and those cults. Right. And even Hellraiser. So I don’t know if you’ve seen the whole Hellraiser franchise, but at one point when they go to hell and they meet, you know, the, the devil, he’s just like this giant geometric shape.

Yeah, phenomenal. I mean the first two Hellraisers are probably some of my favorite horror movies of all time. Not just John Carpenter movies, but just horror movies in general. And the geometric motif goes on all of those different, different designs. Even the, what are the, the Cenobites. Each one of them almost follows a different geometric aesthetic. Oh yeah, I didn’t think of that. So you have all of these super dark esoteric themes and what else was I going to say? The moon comes up a couple times when they talk about the moon is watching me. And there’s one, one point at the climax after they kill her, their Jenna Malone’s shown like with her legs open towards the full moon.

Right. In this like Adoration of the Moon kind of ritual. Let’s see. Oh, this was interesting. So I think the reason they decided to turn on her, besides envy is that she rejected Jenna Malone’s advances. So she has said that she’s a virgin. And then Jenna Malone tries to sleep with her and she kicks her off. And I think that’s the point where the coven’s like, okay, she’s not one of us because she won’t do, she won’t pass these tests of our coven. Right. Well, and, and even more than that, at the very beginning of the movie, Jenna Malone makes this comment, comment.

And I’m, I’m a huge believer in like Chekhov’s gun in that like if, if someone shows you a gun in the first act, then you expect it to go off in the third act kind of thinking so that if. If a certain detail is set in. In dialogue, I always makes me think there’s a reason why they’re saying this early. So in one of the very first scenes when Jess Ruby introduces Jesse to the other two girls, I just call them both sour milk. Milk. She introduces them into this bathroom at this party, and they’re putting on lipstick.

And Elle, or Jesse, like, just doesn’t wear lipstick. And Jenna Malone is like, here, let’s. Let’s try it on. And she said. She makes this statement and she says, women like makeup that’s based on either food or sex. It’s named after either food or sex. And then she looks at Jesse and say. And says, which one are you? And meaning, are you food or are you sex? So later on in that scene when she comes on to her and she’s like, no, I’m not doing this. I don’t want have sex with you. Then it’s like, okay, if you’re not sex, then you’re going to be food.

And it feels like they completed that circle in that moment. Totally. I get that. Yeah. So the climax of the movie was really gross. Alert. Yeah. So Jesse, after. She’s been. Her star is rising, right? She’s been photography. I mean, photography. She’s been photographed by the biggest people. She’s walked the Runway at the biggest shows. She was the star of, you know, that live Runway show. And she’s seen putting on her makeup and just staring in the mirror like you said. So now she is possessed by the neon demon or this narcissism. And she says, people want to be like me.

She can’t stop looking in the mirror. And she goes to a diving board above an empty pool. And this reminded me of like, maybe, you know, John Podesta or those. Wow. Yeah, I totally didn’t even put that together until you just said it. Yeah. So she’s standing up there at the tip of this diving board at the deep end, where she could totally fall and, you know, die. And she’s basically like goddess. She looks like a sacrificial virgin. She looks very angelic, ethereal goddess. Like, she’s got glitter on. And she is now, you know, possessed with the demon of pride.

But she says something specific there, too. She. She walks out on the diving board over this empty pool, very dangerous. And she says, you know what my mom used to call me dangerous? That. That you’re a dangerous girl. And then she says, says, and you know what? She was right. I am dangerous. And then she walks Back down the diving board and goes inside. And that’s when the two Sour Milk Girls jump out and they attack her. One of them grabs a knife. The other one has, like, an ax. Like, it turns into almost like this.

This chase scene. And then eventually they get her back outside the pool, the same pool that she was just standing in front of. And I think Ruby pushes her into the pool pool. She falls back, and she kind of, like, is bleeding and she’s convulsing. It doesn’t look like she’s gonna come out of this one. She almost. It almost reminded me of the magician, the girl that gets, like, paralyzed when the statue falls on her in. In this case, because she. She doesn’t die necessarily. And then it implies the very next scene after that happens, it shows Ruby Jenna Malone in this bathtub just covered in blood.

Blood. Kind of like an Elizabeth Bathory sort of moment. And then she looks over, and in the room that she’s in, inside the shower, the other two Sour Milk Girls, they’re kind of taking a shower with each other, also covered in blood. But they’re, like, licking, like, blood chunks and like, licking the blood off of each other to kind. To really hone in that this was a cannibalistic act. Like, they literally ate this girl. Right? They are the mountain lions that have consumed her because of their time in this horrible industry. And so there’s a couple scenes where you can see their hatred grow for Jesse because of the triangulation that the men in the industry have put on her.

So after this fashion show, Jesse goes to the same restaurant as the Sour Milk Girls, and they’re sitting there with the designer. And the designer is making such a big deal about how Jessie is so beautiful because she’s natural and she’s innocent and she has inner beauty. And you can just see the other two girls are, like, dying of envy. And he even does this thing where he takes the other seasoned model blonde girl and says, stand up. And she has admitted that she’s had plastic surgery to make her more attractive. And he says, you know, stand up and turn around.

And it’s a very potent, like, humiliation type thing. Like, this is the best you can do. Even with all of your resources. You’ll never be as good as Jesse, naturally. Yeah, the. The quote that he says, he says something like, you can always tell when beauty is manufactured. Meaning because they were talking about all this different sort of like, plastic surgery. And then he goes on to say that beauty is the highest currency that we have. Like, all that humans have and that without it, none of them would be anything. And he’s talking to Jesse this morning.

Point, like, don’t mistake it. She just happens to be beautiful, and that’s the only thing that anyone cares about her. And then the boyfriend’s like, I disagree. I think beauty’s on the inside, which I feel I was also telegraphing something is about to happen. But the director comes back, or the, the designer, and he says, beauty isn’t everything. It’s the only thing. Like, he doesn’t care about anything else other than this sort of like innocent beauty that he sees in her. But he also realizes how ephemeral it is. He knows that it’s, it’s going to be gone almost immediately.

And he doesn’t really care. He’s just kind of like there in the movement to, to analyze and, and this whole thing, like, beauty is on the inside after these girls eat her. You’re nodding, so you go ahead. Now she’s on the inside of them and they are, like you said, she’s bathing in her blood. And I. This isn’t very far from reality. I mean, I remember Kim Kardashian getting like vampire facial, right? Like blood injected into you. And I’ve heard, you know, all kinds of things about taking young people’s blood and platelets and stem cells and foreskins for cosmetic things.

Sponsors of the show, by the way, Foreskin cosmetics. Great company. Yeah. So this is not unprecedented. And, and consuming the beauty is the theme of this whole movie. So once she’s possessed by the neon demon or a narcissism or whatever, that’s when she’s ready to be consumed. And then the epilogue scenes, kind of after the climax is the models going to another photo shoot after they have bathed in Jesse’s youngblood. Now they’re ready to go keep continue working on their careers, Right. Even though they’re kind of past their prime. And they even ask her, they said, has another girl ever taken your job and what did you do? And the one girl says, I ate her.

Right. And so one of the sour milk girls can handle it and the other one can’t. So they’re doing this photo shoot with the celebrity photographer and the one girl starts to get nauseous and she goes into the room and she, you know, vomits up that eyeball, right? A blue eye. Yeah, blue eyed eyeball. And she, and she said, I needed to get her out of me when she did that. And then she reaches for a pair of scissors and then finishes the job. She offs herself and at that moment I assume that this was her, like still trying to get her, her out of her.

Because she tries to like cut her stomach open, which is where Jesse is now. Right. She’s in her stomach, so she’s just trying to get her out and then that ends up being the end of her. And the other girl is just, the other sour milk girl is just standing there watching. Cool as a cucumber. So like you can tell that she was made for this life and the other girl just, she wasn’t made for it. Right. And she then picks up the eyeball and pops it in her mouth. Right. Because you can’t let any, any bit of it go to waste.

Right. That’s going to get her an extra or two for another month at least, I assume. Yeah. And that’s pretty much the, you know, end of it. So it’s. If you have a weak stomach, I wouldn’t recommend this. And it’s very much like you said, like, substance. The ideas of just consuming youth after youth after youth and people preying on innocence and like, it’s the only thing that matters. Inner beauty and personality and virtues and character mean nothing compared to the outer appearance. And just the way the industry, like Moloch from Metropolis is just a grinding machine of gore.

Yeah, this is essentially the high fashion world of Metropolis. Exactly. And I didn’t even know when we chose these, like how they were gonna have such an interesting thread with like beauty, suicide, fashion, technology, all of these themes that were very similar throughout the hundred years of movies we just talked about. Yeah, this was a great client. Even if they weren’t planned out to all link to each other, they linked up phenomenally. Yeah. If you like this, Jamie’s got so much more content that breaks down. Occult movies, cult pop culture. We’ll, we’ll do plugs again in a second.

But before we wrap this up, I’ve got a quick little segment that people would force me to walk into the jaws of Moloch if I didn’t do this with you as well. So I’ve got a 10 second clip and then I’m gonna explain what’s gonna happen to you. Are you ready? Okay. Hey, conspiracy buffs. I double dare you to take some pcp. The paranormal conspiracy probe. On your marks, get set and go. Okay, this is going to be real easy. I’m just gonna mention a certain phrase and I just want you to give me a rating from 1 to 10 on how much you agree with a certain topic.

So for example, if I said Rate Bigfoot 1 to 10. Where would you rate Bigfoot as being real or not? Yeah. Ten meaning he’s absolutely real and one meaning no, that’s silly. He never exists. Existed. I’m gonna say five because I don’t. Okay. Because I don’t believe in like Sasquatch necessarily, but there are some interesting historical precedents for like Bigfoot or a genetic experiment. That would be like Enkidu. Remember in the Epic of Gilgamesh they talk about like a half man, half beast. That. So I, I, I would think that would be like the archetype of Bigfoot, Enkidu.

But all these like footage of him. I don’t believe in that. So no Patterson Gimlin footage. But maybe in the likeness of like Esau or like the son of Isaac with the red fur all over his body or something. Yeah. Okay. One to ten. Are you a cop? Because if you’re a cop, you have to tell me. That’s how this works. That is a zero. I am not a cop or snitch. Okay, how about the concept of magic? 10. Go ahead. Is it real or not? Oh yeah. How about Gematria? I think it’s real. But that’s the fastest way to make people think that you are like a schizophrenic crackpot.

Fastest way to actually turn into a schizo crackpot if you’re not careful with it. Yeah, I think it’s fascinating, but I don’t have the constitution for that kind of numbers and stuff. So what would, what number would you put Gematria? It’s 10. It’s actually 3 in reverse ordinal. So anyways, I’m just kidding. I’m just. What about Tartaria? One to ten. Then I’m interested. So I’m going to give it a seven. I know Jay hates it and he calls it tard period, but I don’t know where all of these like architectural, just amazing things come from. I’m interested in how they used to heat and cool things before.

Like why would they have these radiator? I don’t know. Architecture is real, I think like buildings and can channel different spirits or heal you or harm you. Let’s say I want to believe in Tartaria. How about Flat Earth? I have no idea. 5. How about shape shifting Reptilians a la David Icker? Probably so. Six. Okay. How about Roswell? Aliens? Like the little, little grays? 6. How about demonic possession? Like exorcist style? 10. Dinosaurs. 0. Dragons. 10. Elvis died on a toilet. I don’t think that so 1, 9, 11 was an inside job. 10. We buried Bin Laden at sea out of respect to his culture.

That’s stupid. No. 0 Epstein killed himself. 0 Elon Musk is a Nazi. Depends on what you mean by Nazi. You can define it in your own way. Well, we talk a lot about like theosophy and the what was behind the Nazi mythology. And it fits very well into the new world order and technocracy. So 7. Celebrity clones. 5. Remote viewing. 10. Are you familiar with Robert Anton Wilson and Prometheus Rising at all? I know who he is, but I didn’t read the book though. Okay, well, in one of the. I’ll give you some context on this then, and I’ll wrap this up with 1.

1 or 2 after this. In Prometheus Rising, he has this challenge where he’s trying to get you to figure out if magic is real or not. And he says, says that when you walk around for the next week or whatever, every time you look down at the ground, imagine yourself finding money that you find like 25 cents or a dollar or five dollar bill. And that certain point you actually will find money. And I guess part of the implication here that he’s playing with. He’s not explicitly stating it, but that are you meant the first time you find that quarter, that 5 or that $20 bill, did you manifest it or.

Or are you just paying more attention and found it because you’re paying more attention or there’s almost like a Schrodinger’s Law in there. Like maybe one doesn’t work without the other. Anyway, the question is usually like, can you manifest reality in that sort of way? One to ten. Ten. Okay, last two. The first one has qualifiers on it. Pay attention that a human being has stepped foot on the moon in the last 100 years. Years. Zero. And then that NASA or the government, whoever hired Stanley Kubrick specifically to film some of the Apollo 11 footage. I think that’s probably true.

9. Awesome. You. You ran through those. I’m glad that you were able to pick the numbers out pretty quickly. Thanks again. Is there anything that we didn’t get into that we should have to throw on for the next one? No, but I’m looking forward to it. And maybe we can do like the Black Cat. That would fit really well with what we are talking about today. And you remember I sent you that mega list of horror movies. So we’ll have to pick some more good ones from that. Yeah, maybe we can do like a black cat theme.

Because there’s black cat there’s cat people. There’s even Batman Returns with Catwoman. I don’t know, I’m just. I’m spitballing. But maybe there’s a cool theme we can figure out with all of that. Also, go and check out Jamie’s channel. I’ll do all the links and everything as normal. I’ll link to all of her books. We. I came on to your show recently. We talked about Disney, and you’re going to be coming on to the Occult Disney podcast pretty soon. And we’re going to be talking about Wally, which is a huge deep dive. Like, what a rabbit hole? There’s like 20 different theories that I’ve uncovered with Wally, so I’m looking forward to that.

Nice. I am, too. Yeah, I have a whole article on Wall E and transhumanism, so that should be really good. Well, throw all your plugs out one last time. Again, all the links and stuff will be in the description, but if you’re listening to this, here’s all the places that you can support and get more content from Jamie Henshaw. Yeah, definitely go to my YouTube channel, Jamie Hanshaw. And the show’s called out of this World. And our recent shows have been about Sirius and the mystery of. Of why all of the secret societies venerate serious. And then the very next one is going to be about LoM and the eggs, all of the egg mysteries, the UAPs and egg prices, and just everything about eggs.

And when you go to that channel, don’t forget to click on the Lives tab, because that’s kind of a different format. So the live streams are really fun, where I go back into the book that I no longer sell, talking about magic and Disney, Disney and propaganda, wartime propaganda, taxes, all that stuff. So don’t miss the live stream tab. And then definitely check out the rockfin shows if you so dare, because that is the real defense against the dark arts. Awesome. Thanks again for spending time. Anyone watching or listening? If you’ve got some favorite occult movies that you’d like some deep dives on or just.

Just want to recommend to other people, just drop them in the comments. Let us know what other cool occult movies from whatever time period, I’d be happy. Especially if there’s weird ones that I’ve never heard of before, I guarantee you I’ll at least put it on the list. And I’ve got an ongoing list@conspiracy cinema.com, so any movie that piques my interest that I want to get around to, I’ll add it to Conspiracy Cinema. And then once we cover that movie. I’ll put links to all the different episodes and everything on there. So even this one one.

I might go ahead and add Metropolis and the Seventh Victim and Neon Demon. I’ll add those all to conspiracy cinema.com and then link to this interview that you just listened to. So thanks again everyone for coming along. Paranoid American podcast. Lots more in store. Go check out this episode with Jamie Hanshaw on a cult Disney and Wally. I’ll see you guys next time. Thank you. Ready for a cosmic conspiracy about Stanley Kubrick, moon landings and the CIA? Go visit nasacomic.com nascomic.com CIA Stanley Kubrick put us on this While we’re singing this song go visit nas. Com go visit nas comic.com CIA’s biggest con Stanley Kubrick put us on.

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