Operation Paperclip MI6 and CIA Working Together in Cars 2 (2011)

➡ The text is a conversation from the Occult Disney podcast, discussing the differences between the movies Cars 1 and Cars 2. The hosts talk about the cultural themes in both movies, with Cars 1 focusing on American culture and Cars 2 presenting Americans as less classy compared to other cultures. They also discuss the commercial success of both movies, and share personal experiences related to the movie’s themes.
➡ The text discusses a game involving wasabi-filled gyoza and sushi, where players have to guess who got the spicy one. It also talks about a movie that’s like a James Bond film, where a character named Tater gets mistaken for a spy. The text mentions the death of several actors from the first movie and changes in production, including the director taking a more active role. Despite these changes, the movie was financially successful, although the sequel didn’t perform as well.
➡ The text is a casual conversation about various topics, including a movie with a grand prix and alternative fuel, a college experience, and the Cars movie franchise. The speakers discuss their thoughts on the Cars movies, their own experiences with cars, and their opinions on the future of the Cars franchise. They also touch on other topics like economics and radio DJing.
➡ The text discusses the Cars movie, focusing on the characters Lightning McQueen and Mater. The author finds Mater annoying and questions the decision to make him the main character. They also discuss the oddities of the Cars universe, such as the existence of bathrooms and the consumption of drinks. The text ends with a discussion about the movie’s rating, suggesting it might be too violent for a G rating.
➡ The text discusses a movie, possibly Cars 2, and its various elements. It talks about the movie’s plot, the absence of a traditional Disney proxy, and the unique blend of ancient tradition and modern technology in Japan. The text also mentions the lack of significant Japanese characters in the Tokyo setting of the movie. Lastly, it discusses the concept of ‘cancel culture’ in relation to various personalities in the entertainment industry.
➡ The text discusses various topics, including the careers of certain actors, the concept of car afterlife in the Cars movie franchise, and the portrayal of American tourists in foreign films. It also touches on the idea of a car’s identity in relation to its parts, using the character Lightning McQueen as an example. The text ends with a discussion about the character Mater and his potential for having weapons in the Cars universe.
➡ The text discusses the Cars movie franchise, focusing on the second installment. It explores the idea of cars as living beings, comparing them to comic book characters and even suggesting they might be the dominant species. The text also discusses the character development of Mater, who becomes more prominent and capable in the sequel. Finally, it compares the Cars movies to James Bond and Mission Impossible films, noting the lack of connection between the initial action sequence and the rest of the movie in Cars 2.
➡ The movie discussed has multiple subplots, including a secret society, a green movement versus fossil fuel debate, and a race. However, these subplots lack high stakes, making them feel unimportant. The film also includes a lot of exposition and world-building, which can be confusing and doesn’t leave a lasting impression. The movie’s concept is seen as flawed, with too many elements to track compared to its predecessor.

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Is Matt here? It’s Paranoid American over there. How is it? I’ve been drinking. All in all. All in all, everything. You need to grease your wheels, right? Yes. That’s. New sponsor of the show. All in all, you can do anything you want with it. Looks like what? Unobtainium or something. Which is like, what, in eight different movies and you can do whatever you want with. I can’t take any movie seriously that has Unobtainium in it unless it’s there on purpose. Like, if it’s a Zoolander movie and they’re looking for Unobtainium, it’s kind of okay now, you know.

Yeah, I just. I guess I’m specifically talking about Avatar. Okay. Yeah. I’m starting to think about the Unobtainium movies. I. I guess they call it something slightly different. The Marvel movies. Is it because they. I guess that’s Animanium now. I don’t know. The stuff that makes up Wolverines. You say it again. I think it’s ad Mantium. I might be totally wrong. Now we have to find out who’s right on this one, because I’ve been thinking it was Adamantium for like, my entire. You might be right. But until the X Men animated series, I also thought it was Magneto.

Not at Magneto. Adamantium is a fictional metal alloy in the Marvel universe. Adamantium. Okay. I’ve read the Chris Claremont run of X Men, like, at least four times. I was like, I can’t. I gotta be right on that. You know, I never watched the 90s series because I. Even in the 90s, I’d already read that run, actually four times. It’s probably lowballing it. I’m forgetting how many times I read that as a kid. Let’s go 10 times for the Chris Claremont run of X Men. I mean, I prefer the good old Ad Mantium before they got all fancy and made it Adamantium.

Okay. That’s Mitch Heberg territory. Is like as a hippopotamus, you know, really a hippopotamus or just a very cool eponymous, you know, stealing someone else’s jokes there. That’s fine. Cars two. Now you liked Cars one quite well, right? How’d you like Cars two? I did. I liked Cars one a lot. I felt that it was way deeper than it had any business being CARS2. I kind of feel the opposite about. In a bunch of ways it. It seems like this and I guess I want to know some of the production background that usually give us on these.

But this one felt like Disney now owns this really cool shiny toy and they’re just gonna do like stupid Disney stuff with it and make it look good. But it kind of lost everything that made Cars one good. And it didn’t meet almost any of my expectation, although it did a great job of building the characters up. But I almost like as I’m watching this, it’s like, oh, they did that so that they can make this into a video game. Not because it was a good story wise, but that they wanted to just improve on some of the core characters and introduce a few more ones along with like toys and ancillary products.

Yeah. Because once I was an hour 47, I was like, that’s not the worst, but it is nice when it’s an hour 30. Yeah. I got to tell you, when we, when this was like an hour and a half in, I did, I did look at the, the, the progress bars. Like, how is this not over yet? Like, oh, there’s another 20 minutes. It could have ended 10 minutes before I start. I thought to look at that. So this could have been perfect if it came in like an hour and 15. But whenever it goes to almost two hours long, I feel myself getting extra critical if there’s not something like major being revealed.

Yeah. And it was weird because one, it was a car is the first Cars. I’m pretty much. I think I’m mostly agree with Critical Mass on that movie where like you really liked it, which is great. But. And you know, most kids in America liked it because it’s one of Disney’s biggest properties. Right. So in this, Cars 2 is also actually Cars 2 is the biggest hit of the Cars movies. This one made the most money. So the juggernaut was in place and functioning fine. But yeah, the first one, it’s good. But I do agree with the general idea that it’s Like a shade under the Pixar movies up to that point, except for maybe A Bug’s Life.

Now, looking back, I’m like, it’s better in A Bug’s Life easily. Well, commercially, it’s hard to look at the commercial numbers from Cars 2 and Cars 1 and compare them and be like, oh, Cars 2 did better. So it is better because maybe that just represents how many people liked Cars one that were able to show up for Cars two versus the ones that went back and watched it, like three or four times because it was so good. I don’t. I don’t know. I guess maybe I’m losing touch here. And also, there’s a huge difference between these two movies.

In Cars 1, American culture and folklore was sort of the star of the show, and it gave. It was the first time in a. And I think all of Disney history that we got a uniquely American sort of bumpkin backstory in this movie. Americans are the butt of a joke again. Like, the Americans just look bad because they’re traveling internationally and they’re putting up against Asians and Europeans. And the. The running joke is just that Americans have no class and are not as funny or as good as any of the other characters. At least. That’s kind of like the overarching theme that I picked up on.

Yeah. But even I, as someone living Japan for so long, I found myself being slightly condescending in my mind. Yesterday I was walking. There’s a lot more foreign tourists these days in Japan. I’m walking down the street and there’s a gaggle of Americans coming up, built like tanks and wearing floppy T shirts. And I’m wearing my clothes. I’m like, I look cool in my suit. You know, I look classier. I was like, yeah. So I. I felt. But, yeah, and. And there’s. There’s occasional weird, you know, behavior here and there, of course, but there is a weird push and pull in Japan, for sure, with.

With tourists. There were convenience stores last year, like, putting big fences behind their buildings because people were showing up and not buying things and taking pictures of Mount Fuji, because that convenience store happened to have a really good view of Mount Fuji. So I put up a fence so people couldn’t take. They’re like, there’s too many. Too many dirty Americans are showing up and not buying anything and littering and all that, you know. So this. This is on theme for the movie, because if you haven’t seen Cars two, it, for the most part, takes place in Tokyo, right? I’d say more Europe, but Maybe it’s because I was excited to see the Tokyo stuff.

I felt like they got out of Tokyo real quickly, you know, I don’t know if that felt like a good, like first half of the movie was all in Tokyo. Yeah. Okay. We got the car. Sumo. Yeah, yeah, maybe. Well, actually, maybe some of us, because I see Sumo. I see Sumo on TV every Sunday. So I just kind of like forgot it was there until I looked at my notice that there’s cars. Now we. We see Mater dress up like a geisha, which. Right. Appropriate cultural flapping, whatever you want to call that. And then he’s.

The wasabi. It was a. It was a pile of wasabi. Right. It was a sushi counter. And he thought. And he heard it was an open bar, so he goes to order some food and he thinks that it’s pistachio ice cream and then orders an entire thing of it and then eats it all and then realizes that the pistachio ice cream has turned, as he called it. Oh, right. Okay. Because I was. See, I had like a third thing that confused myself because nearby where I live, not somewhat nearby, there’s a wasabi farm that. It’s like a big tourist attraction.

Attraction place too. And they serve wasabi curry, which is really good. And they have wasabi ice cream, which is. So I’ve had wasabi ice cream. So I was like, sure. Wasabi ice cream, that’s not bad. I’m sure it’s not just pure wasabi in a cup. No, it’s wasabi leaf flavored. And. But they did put like a dab of wasabi on it. So it did have some spice there. And I’ve won a wasabi eating contest in my life. And there’s the gyoza game too, the pot sticker game. Have you heard of this? Russian roulette with. Roulette with gyozo.

Five. Like, say I have six. Five have pork inside, one of them has wasabi inside and everyone picks one and eats it. There’s a sushi version where five or whatever, I’m just losing. Six is a normal number. But, you know, five have a normal amount wasabi and one has a ton. And I played that once and I had the one with a ton, but I didn’t notice. So I kind of. Yeah. Is the game that you have to not make a reaction and everyone has to guess or what. That might be it. It was like quite a while ago when I played this game.

But yeah, it might be something like that. But yeah, I won because I actually didn’t know. I had the. The bunk one. Okay, sure. Tater definitely loses in this one because he immediately makes himself look like a typical American tourist idiot. And then there’s even a line in here when. So. Because the premise of the movie, I guess, would help to put out here, is that it’s essentially a James Bond movie. And we see that they’re trying to uncover some nefarious plot that has something to do with alternative fuel. And Tater kind of gets mixed up in the middle of all this where they think that he’s part of these American spies because he’s just wrong place at the wrong time.

So in one of these scenes, he. He’s trying to kind of, like, keep a low profile, or at least they’re trying to make sure he keeps low profile. But everything that he does in this movie makes him stand out. And at one point, the British MI6 agent is consulting with her handler, and the handler asks her, have you met the American? Or. Or like, you know, or she’s like, I don’t think that this is him. He said, well, is he American? And then it shows Mater kind of like farting and burping. And she says, extremely. And I just thought, I kind of like that, though.

I kind of like, yeah, like, he’s not only American, he’s extremely American because of how crass and. And embarrassing he is in public. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, I mean, I guess that was me being like a sports car yesterday, going past the. The. The. The bumpkin folk. Right. Crop dusting them. Crop dust them. That’s right. No, that’s for planes. That’s what we’re getting to soon. That’s right. You. You. You asked about production, especially if people are listening to us in order. We have gone slightly out of order because of our guest schedule. This is one movie before Brave, which we just covered.

Right. So don’t ask too many questions. We got. There’s a method to the madness. But, yeah, this is the last movie with their old software. Because I think when we did Brave, all of us noticed, oh, the animation has kicked up a notch. So this is the end of sort of the old animation. I wonder if they’re kind of, you know, like, closing down the shop for this. Right. A little bit of senioritis, maybe. A little. And also, again, it feels like it departs so much of the storytelling from Cars one like this. This movie is just a James Bond movie with cars characters playing some of the parts, and then they go back to the same location that we saw in Cars one.

But outside of that, this. It feels like it’s a. It’s its own movie because there was no part of Cars one that had some of the same style humor in it. Well, one of the issues here, I guess, is actors dying. George Ramp, who is a. In tons of Pixar movies up until Cars, died in Automobile and accident 2005, he was red. So Red’s in the movie, but doesn’t talk. I mean, he wasn’t the biggest character in the original, but that’s. That’s one character down. Paul Newman died. Right. So they were just like, oh, he’s dead.

Right. They. They intimate in the movie that Doc Hudson’s dead. George Carlin died in 2008. And they got someone else to voice him, which I don’t know. That seems a little rude if you’re deferring to the other two guys, especially being a big George Carlin fan. So you got that going on. That’s one thing. You also. Tommy Chong in the first one, was he. I think George Caron was. It was Carlin the one that played the hippie van. Yeah, Carlin was a hippie. Because Tommy John’s done that too, right. Just off the top of my head, when we get to Zootopia, he’s.

He’s there. So as the, the yoga llama or whatever. The llama. Who’s a llama? Yeah. No, we. I could definitely tell immediately that it was not the same hippie van, even though I forgot it was George Garland. It was the original. Yeah, but no, it was. You’re thinking back, I see easily where you would have either of those guys in as your hippie voice. Right. So anyway, you got these dead folks and then the production, of course, as seems true for every 21st century Disney movie, hands changed during development. Right. This has sort of a Star Trek the Motion Picture story, not production thing.

If you remember Star Trek the Motion Picture Captain comes back after several years behind. Or Admiral Kirk comes back after. After several years behind a desk job to be like, piss off, young Captain, this is my ship again. Right. If you’ve seen the movie, that’s kind of what happened here. Because John Laster did co direct the first one. By the time this goes into production, he’s in charge of Disney, basically. Right. But at some point he decides, no, I want to co direct Cars too. And at another point decides, I want to be the sole Director of Cars 2.

To the point where this. To the point where this was his main focus for about a year. So he did put a lot of effort into it. Just giving notes, you know, on things like Winnie the Pooh and Brave and things. Right. Like, he was just like kind of like giving notes for those. Apparently Steve Jobs gave an iPad and he found the ability to spend an hour on an iPad sending everyone notes very, very useful or something. He’s like, I can do on an iPad what would take me three hours of office time. Which is a kind of a very, I guess 2010 things say.

It also just makes me think that you’re very slow using office tools. That might also be the case. But yeah, he did make this his sole focus. Saying things in the production, like, we don’t make a sequel at Pixar unless the new idea is at least as good or better than the first movie, which this feels like a failure on that part. I don’t know. Then again, if. If the money talks, then money did talk. Yeah, it’s. It’s hard to argue with the. The money coming in because what the hell do I know? But again, I can’t imagine that anyone would have went to see cars 2 of cars 1 sucks.

So maybe the real test is how well did cars3 do in relation to Cars too. But I don’t know, maybe also that point, it’s like the sunken cost fallacy. It’s like, well, I’ve seen the first two. I guess I got a third one, 200 budget for this, which is whack. But then 550, 560 for the box office. I wanna. Let’s actually, I am very curious how three did because they haven’t made one since. Although they, you know, there might be one come out next week for all I know. Cars. Cars 3. 175 million 383. So a whole lot less than 2.

Yeah. So I mean, in my own head, I almost would say that car. The success of cars 3 has more to do with how good cars 2 was. And then the same thing with cars 2 and cars 1. Yeah. Now I am really curious how toy story 4 did, which we’ll get to eventually and I’ll probably have. I’ll be in a year. I’ll be reading on the podcast again. Oh, God. Holy crap. Budget 200 million for Toy Story 4. 4. It’s a billionaire. It made a billion bucks. So, yeah, okay, that’s pretty good. That’s why five is coming out sooner rather than later, I guess.

How did the. The gay Buzz Lightyear one come out? That one really flopped. From what I remember, everyone hated that movie Toy Story franchise. Does that count as The Toy Story franchise. Absolutely. No, I know it does. And I’m talking about wiki. Does it count as the Toy Story franchise? Toy Story series and must films. Okay, there we go. It’s list is audio. Oh, crap. I got the soundtrack. This is what you do when you end up searching on live. Well, we’re not live, but here we go. Okay, very. I’m just very curious about Lightyear. 200 million again.

226 in the box office. So once you consider all of. Yeah, marketing, which was massive for that movie. Yeah, they. They. They got a lump of coal in their stocking for the summer. Summer. Because it was a summer movie. They should have doubled down. They should have just made all the characters gay. Yeah, sure, why not? Was Love Year. I don’t know what the French title for that movie is really entertaining, by the way, for the light Year movie now. And I can’t remember what it is off the top of my head, but it’s really entertaining.

And now I’m getting way too far off track. I think I have to drive back over to Radiator Springs or I’m going to drive myself insane. Right. I’m looking at too many things and talking at the same time. Yeah, it starts off where they meet up in Tokyo and there’s going to be this big Grand Prix. And the Grand Prix is being thrown by this, all in all, which is a new, I guess, like, green fuel. Actually, maybe I wasn’t paying attention. Close enough, but it almost seemed like they were implying at first that there were electric cars that they were going to be racing, but they weren’t really electric.

They were just using this, all in all, alternative fuel. And apparently any engine can just use this alternative fuel without any sort of, like, adaptation or upgrades, which is kind of weird. Like, that doesn’t exist in the real world. Right. Yeah, that’s Eddie Izzard doing that. I’m just going over the voice, guys. John Turturro. Gotta love the turret. He. He is the Italian racing rival, so that’s kind of cool. And my cocaine is the British spy car. I guess after a gold member where he’s playing Austin Powers dad, they’re like, let’s. Let’s have him do that one more time.

And funny you should mention that because this whole beginning scene where Mater becomes a spy, that almost felt like the opening scene in Austin Powers 2. That takes place in a bathroom. Oh, yeah. Okay. Who does number two work for? Yeah. Oh, that. That’s in the first one with a Tom Arnold. Yes, yes. Yeah, yeah. You tell that turdu’s boss. Yeah, I remember that. No, I, that’s. I remember. I, I very specifically remember seeing the first Austin Powers movie because we took a college day to. Oh no, I was there legitimately. We had an AP test in the morning, so they let us out of school for the afternoon.

Then I saw Austin Powers. Yeah, so I was there legitimately. Good for me. But it was school hours. It’s. Movies are better when you watch them when you’re supposed to be at school. They kind of are. The most fun is I had a macroeconomics class in university, but I also had a radio shift during that class. So I just never went to the class and I was on the radio instead of in the class. So I didn’t. I mean it was a really big class. It was like, you know, 300 people auditorium class. But I was just like, yeah.

If anyone ever accused me of skipping class, there’s quite a bit of evidence since I’m DJing as a class was going on when we had the finals. I actually got it wrong because the, the website said 7pm but or 8pm but it was actually 8am and he let me. I, I showed him the mistake on the website and he, he let me take the final exam. But he must have known this guy has not been in class for some time. Who are you? Who are you? Well, it’s a 300 person class. You can’t tell. Anyway, he said all the notes were on the Internet.

This was like 19, what, 2000 or something. So that’s great. I don’t even take any notes. You know, the first time a professor said notes are on the Internet. So I was like, I don’t know. Why do I even know? Go to class. I’ll be on the radio instead. Well, I mean it’s, it’s paying out though, because clearly you did well in macroeconomics. That’s right. I got a C. That’s good enough. That’s like suicide terror. No, it might have been microeconomics. I don’t even remember some kind of economics as I’ve been watching Severance also it’s John Deterrent.

They have what, the macro. Macro department or whatever. So macro data department. So I have macro in the mind. You know, why have micro in the mind when you got macro in the mind? But yeah, look at your. Okay, yeah, early on we got the Jaguars coming through, but I’m guitar obsessed. I’m thinking about, you know, guitars when I hear Jaguars or see Jaguars. Am I seeing Jaguars? Jaguars here I’M not that big a car guy. Oh, in the. The movie. What the hell? Oh, yeah, sorry, I switched the movie. We’re actually talking about. I tangented into the main topic.

Yeah, well, you’re talking is Michael Kane is the Jaguar. Right, like the spy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I’m just. I suck with car models. It just says British spy car on wiki. So I think he’s a Jaguar. Yeah, I think he was a Jaguar. And then there is all of the normal sort of crew, except you also have a project Paperclip German guy who’s. I wrote Nazi Volkswagen, which I guess Volkswagen is inherently Nazi. Anyway, his name was Sundap and Sundap was the name of a remote detonation company that then started making motorcycles. All right. Founding of Volkswagen.

Okay. 1937. Just making sure I was correct by accusing Volkswagen being a Nazi company before I, you know, because if it said 1918, I’d have to at least like reconsider. But it’s a 1937. I’m like, okay, by 37 you’re starting a company in Germany. Yeah. And it was the people’s wagon. Right. The folk. That’s correct. By the German labor party. That’s right. No, I’m just making sure I’m not besmirching the. The name of Volkswagen. Just making sure I’m saying what’s. What’s correct because it’s. But just. It’s accurate. Besmirching. I drove a Beetle around, a New Beetle around for what, like eight years? So yeah, Tesla is the New Beetle.

I guess so. Yeah. Actually it was. It was great. My aunt bought one because she liked one and she got a stick shift and she didn’t like that, so she got herself a turbo and then just gave me the stick shift. And I had just gotten into a five car pile up near not Scranton, Stamford, Connecticut. So I. My Mitsubishi Mirage just got a hole in the radiator. So it just worked out well. See, I could talk about Cars. Is there a Cars 4 or are we at Cars 3? We’re just at Cars 3. I can look at the.

The main. The. The cars franchise. Maybe. Maybe Cars 4 will have a cyber truck third film. Cars. It doesn’t look like. And there’s a possible fourth film if there’s a good story to tell. Well, then they made two. Anyway. Stop them. There are more cars things brewing. I can’t say much more yet. Cars has got a life that will keep going. I am working on some real fun projects right now that you will see in a couple of years. It takes us a while to make them okay. That means nobody’s doing anything. Also, that sounds like something Timothy McVeigh would have told somebody.

Yeah, really. I’m working on really fun projects. I can’t tell you about it now. I’m gonna blow up the Cars universe. Yeah. Anyway, my guess is they’re just that. That sounds like cor boilerplate. And nothing is happening with Cars because three wasn’t that successful. And that’s the thing with something like Cars. Like a Toy Story. I think if you’re five years old when Toy Story comes out and now like we said on Toy Story 3 and now Andy’s going to college and you’re 17, you’re still on board. If you were obsessed with Lightning McQueen when you were five, which to be fair, kids still are.

Like half of the boys water bottles in my little kid glasses have Lightning McQueen on them or he’s somewhere on their clothing or on their socks or whatever. But if you call, if you saw Cars when you were five years old, Cars 2 is coming out in 25 years later and now you’re 10. I don’t think you’re that interested in cars too. Am I wrong? Yeah. Well, and also Toy Story has the advantage of there’s baby toys in Toy Story and then there’s older kid toys. And like even Sid is sort of like an older badass Bart Simpson and he’s playing with like erector set style toys.

So you’ve got a large gamut. When you’re talking about the Cars movie, everything is the same kind of like age range. And once you age out a matchbox Cars, then I think you’re probably aged out of like cars in general because there’s no room for anything else in the Cars universe. Yeah. To really be into the Cars universe. And that’s, that’s not taking away from the first movie, you know, being a pretty good movie for. Great for you. But. Yeah, where was I going with that? Oh, yes. For to be into the Cars universe, to be a Cars fan, you need to one think Lightning McQueen is cool, which is easy when you’re five.

And you need to think Mater is funny, which is easy when you’re five and when you’re ten and above, Lightning McQueen is not that cool. And Mater, I don’t think Mater is that funny. This one has like 40% more mater and that freaking annoying. Well, he’s the main character of the movie. And as I’m watching this, I’m thinking if you really liked Jeff Foxworthy and Larry the cable guy, then you probably do like Nader a whole lot. Yeah, they’re doubling down on Larry the Cable Guy here, aren’t they? So, like, even on Wiki, I don’t remember what the.

What the order, casting order is in the movie, but here they are listing Larry the Cable guys, Mater as the top of the voice cast and Owen Wilson as Lightning, and Queen is number two. So Mater is now the star of Cars, which I don’t want made it. Mater is good in like, small doses, if at all. You know, he’s, he’s, he’s a. A jar jar that people like more. You know, I, I see that. Yeah, he is a jar jar people like more. Hey, you’re talking about doubling down on Lightyear. Do that with Binks. Make a Binks movie.

And all the Gungans are super non binary. That would be a fun movie. Our car, I mean, we get the impression that there’s girl cars and boy cars, but none of that seems like it would make any biological difference in the car universe. Okay, because we got tailpipes, but what else do we got going on? But everyone’s got tailpipes. Tailpipes and head ornaments. And also, I guess it is a good time to point out that in the beginning of this movie where it starts in a bathroom, they have that classic sort of joke where, like, an American discovers a Japanese toilet for the first time, and it’s got like a bidet and it has music and flashing lights and all sorts of, like, technology, but it sprays his undercarriage, I think.

So now the tailpipe analogy doesn’t make as much sense because what is it spread like, you know, like. Because if it were an actual bidet, it would be spraying up his tailpipe. But since it’s Cars universe, it sprays his undercarriage. I’ve. I’ve lived in Japan for almost 20 years now, and I have never mustered up the courage to press that button. What? I’ve had people have visited. I’ve had people who visit the bidet buttons. I’ve had people who visited for the week and they’re like, oh, my God, that’s the best thing ever. Why don’t we have them in America? But I, I’ve just never had the guts do.

To press that button. I do like the heated seats at work. They’re usually heated, and every once in a while they’re in winter, you sit there and like, oh, my God. Because you’re used to them being heated and someone has turned it off. So I feel like I wouldn’t be scared of the button, but on a. In a public restroom. I don’t know, man. Like, I don’t know what fell onto that nozzle, like right before you press it. Yeah. Sometimes a nozzle is notable. It’s a notable nozzle. So. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Usually you don’t. There’ is still separate.

There’s still just a normal flush. So the buttons are all just superfluous. And they’re in Japanese. Right. So you don’t necessarily know what you’re pressing on many. It makes it look like a video game in this movie. Yeah. And. And they didn’t go for the traditional ones. That would have really flipped them out. You know the traditional ones, right? What is that where like an old lady comes out and spits? Yeah, she hawked. You thought that thing one year out of date joke. I feel like I was just saying yesterday how like that kind of thing’s funny because it’s just slightly outdated so people just look at you slightly askew.

Like. What? You have to forgive him. He’s catching up. Yeah, it’s the squatting toilets, so. AKA hole in the ground. Yeah. But they’re still made of porcelain, so they’re technically still toilets. So yes, of course, 100 years ago they were just holes in the ground, but now they are toilets. But still. Yeah, those are. After almost 20 years in Japan, I’m still. There’s plenty of Japanese who don’t want to use those too now, so. Well, let me ask you, what comes out when a car goes to the bathroom? Oh, sorry. It’s gonna answer what comes out.

Like what are they? Crappy smelling oil. Crappy smelling oil. Oil that smells like poo. But so like what, they’re going in and they’re getting an oil change. Used oil. Well, they don’t change. They’re evolved people. Right. They’re not quite cars. Right. They have eyes, so they. They taken. And mouth gas and tongues and apparently digestive systems. Because in this movie too, it shows them drinking and. Right. And I’m guessing that they’re not drinking gasoline. Maybe it’s like fuel additive. But they’re fed completely intravenously, aren’t they, for fuel? Because they still have gas pumps. Right? Correct. And if you want to keep extending this, you see that not only do they have mouths and teeth and tongues, but Mater has some big old chompers.

So what did his incisors develop in, you know, response to. Are. Are they actually masticating things like could you get eaten by a car? Are they drinking just for fun? I think they are. No, they absolutely are. They’re. They’re drinking to get drunk in this situation in a G rated Disney movie, actually. So there was a little, not a big controversy, but there was slight controversy over this one getting a G. It’s kind of like Pixar movies get GS or maybe Brave didn’t. But yeah, like it’s a little too violent. There’s drinking and stuff and maybe it shouldn’t be a G.

Ratings are weird though. I mean, one of my notes was that this movie, maybe franchise as a whole is at a disadvantage because they have a big action scene where they’re doing, I guess what we’ll call karate because they call it karate. But like the cars are jumping up in the air and whipping around, hitting each other and they’ve got guns, they’re pulling out like AKs and shooting at each other and missiles are coming out. But no one ever gets hurt. There’s no oil or transmission fluid that ever gets spilled. There’s no windshields that get cracked.

Almost nothing bad happens to these cars on screen. You might see off screen there’s an explosion and then the wheels or the tires will like float up in the water or something. But they’ve, they’ve kind of put themselves in this corner where they’ve got these inanimate objects which are normally like every, every kit going to watch this movie knows what two cars wrecking into each other look like. That’s like kids favorite thing to do with toy cars. Just smash them into each other constantly. Right? Car car wrecks and car crashes. But you don’t get any of that in this movie because if they show a car actually getting like severely damaged, now we’re just watching it suffer on screen and it’s kind of not a Disney thing, let alone a G rated Disney movie thing.

So even in the height of their action sequences, everything falls so flat because they can’t show any pain or suffering if they want to be really intense. They could have recreated the torture scene from Casino Royale with Mater or something. Or just casino where they put the guy’s head in a vise and his eyeball pops out. Yeah, an R rated car. So hey, you don’t have to even wait for the copyright. You don’t have to give cars 70 years. You can make a animated horror movie with cars now. You can. Maximum overdrive. Take that ip make an animated maximum overdrive.

I mean technically it’s already a cars movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just. Yeah, it’s fit into the. That’s. That is where the evolution begins. Right. Of the. Of the. The semi. That’s the beginning of the. The takeover. Yes. Got it. Christine’s doing the same thing on the other side of the country at the same time. It works out for everyone. Well, not for people. Works out for cars. Sorry you’re asking about cars and sex earlier. My notes are cars can bang. Mater wants to bang McQueen. McQueen wanted to bang the lady car, but now he’s stuck with Mater.

Okay, so. So Mater is definitely not a good wingman, that’s for sure. No, Mater almost seems like a creeper. He seems like a jeeper creeper kind of guy. I. I was. I agreed with the leaving Mater at home thing personally. When it becomes like, no, now you’re going to be on all of my tours now. You don’. Want that. Did you ever see the Mr. Show sketch with the. The Metallica band that has to go visit the kid in the hospital that tried to commit suicide after listening to her song Try Suicide? No, I mean, I’m sure I’ve seen it, but this is like 90s now.

Yeah, yeah, it’s the 90s, but yeah, so you can come. You know, it’s like they’re doing the Metallica thing. I was like, oh, yeah, you can join our tours. And then finally pull down his blanket because he wants to be cool. And it’s just like he’s got this little shrivel body going, yay, yay. Like it’s a puppet or whatever. So that’s. That’s bringing Mater on tour with, you know, so they. So they make the song try again and then dedicate it to him because now he’s dead. The. That’s one of the main motifs of this whole movie.

I. I had. So first of all, no Disney proxy, right? No. Was there proxy? Not at all. Right. One. In this one, they abandoned the entire formula and I almost feel like I missed it. Like I wanted a Disney proxy in here somewhere. Brave didn’t have much of one because the parents are still there. The. Bet you could say the bear, but it’s not much. Toy Story 3 had a much. It had a. It had something in equal strength to Disney Proxy that. But didn’t really have the traditional one. Maybe that’s Pixar’s thing. We do something different.

It hit. Well in Toy Story 3. It kind of hit in Brave. And this is just a weird jumbled mess where nothing. Well, because again, this one’s like a James Bond movie. Or it’s. Or it’s the man who Knew Too Little, which I think was a Tom Arnold movie. That’s Bill Murray. Great movie, by the way. That. That I. That I think of that as a underrated classic, by the way. Kind of the premise of this movie, man who Knew Too Little, where someone gets mistaken as a secret agent. And that’s kind of the. The rest of the movie, in addition to this.

This story arc and this is the. The journey that Lightning McQueen goes on, but that he’s embarrassed of Mater and everything that Mater’s doing, he’s kind of trying to hide him and he’s tell back home and he’s apologizing for him. He’s blaming him for ruining his right, which is all kind of true. Like all this. Like you said, he should have stayed home. But the man who knew too little adds in the torture scene, if you remember, by the way, who adds in the torture scene, the man who knew too Little, if you remember. He gives Bill Murray the tickets to this thing because he wants.

He wants. He has a business meeting, so he wants him away. And at some point he gets mistaken. The brother gets mistaken for a spy and then tortured, whereas Bill Murray still doesn’t know anything because he’s the man who Knew Too Little. So be like if McQueen got tortured. All made. It’s just like bonking around or something. There’s also a phrase that they mentioned in Japan, which. Which I thought was kind of interesting. And it’s when they’re introducing Tokyo as this race ground and they say, oh, Japan. Where the ancient tradition meets modern technology. And we were just talking about this on a previous show we recorded about Yvonne.

Oh, what the hell? Neon Genesis Evangelion. Shout out to cartoon Cabal if you haven’t been watching that already, if it’s even out yet. But that. This weird combination of ancient tradition and modern technology does seem somewhat unique to Japan. Like, we don’t have ancient tradition in the States, but we do have modern technology. But Japan seems like one of the only places on the planet that you could describe it that way, that they both observe ancient traditions, but they’re also embracing modern technology more than anywhere else. So. I don’t know. I. I guess that’s true. I mean, what’s.

What’s your take on. You’re the. The Japanese one? Out of the two of us, at least. No, I’ve been here for, as I said, almost 20 years, and I still just maybe two weeks ago, felt compelled to take a picture. I’ll see if this comes through. But a. A picture like that, the tallest building. Okay. It’s not going through, but it’s a shrine. And then the tallest building in Japan is right behind it. Like, the super, like, opened like, a year ago, you know, because you just feel compelled to take those kinds of pictures in Japan, where it’s like, okay, this.

I can get something really old and something super modern, like, in the same shot. Like, often Interesting, too, that in this movie, in Cars 2, when they go to Tokyo still, there’s, like, no real noteworthy Japanese racer. They show them in the Grand Prix elsewhere, but it’s all about Lightning McQueen and the. The French do. Or the Italian dude. I wonder if that’s part of why I said I don’t feel like they spent a lot of time in Tokyo. Because they spent time in Tokyo, but they didn’t have Japanese characters. Like, there were no Japanese characters.

I wonder if that actually factored into my feeling, right? We only see the two Japanese cars, really, when they move over to Europe and they’re racing in Italy and they get into a wreck with each other. That’s, like, the only time you really see anything represented like that. So that might be it. Because the thing I warmed up to the most, like I said, was the Car Sumo, because I. I thought that was, like. I thought that was a good joke. I wanted to see Car Sumo. So I think that this movie could have been way more interesting if.

If it was just like. Like Tokyo Drift, you know, Car. Hey. Well, hey, that. Obviously, I’d find that appealing, wouldn’t I? We don’t. We spend very little time in Radiator Springs. I guess that’s. Since Disney has doubled down on that being the attraction and stuff. It’s Radiator Springs. You visit the town right at California Adventure, and then you take the ride through Radiator Springs, which ends in a race in Radiator Springs. I guess I haven’t been there. I don’t know the details, but I say, compared to Tokyo, Radiator Springs is the most boring town that they could have ever placed any of guys in.

And even as I’m watching it, in all of the locations, when they go to Tokyo, when they go to Italy, when they go to Radiator Springs, there’s all these houses. It’s like, who the hell lives in these houses? Why. Why is. Does this house have even little tiny doors on it? Are we implying that the houses are leftover remnants from a previous human civilization? Because these cars have absolutely no use for it. And when they go to the airport, for example, the airport’s been modified to have huge doors and huge Walkways where these cars can all traverse.

Right. But there’s still, like, little doors and stuff in the background that are human sized. Well, you’re pushing the maximum overdrive theory a little farther. That. That’s. That’s the turn. What we need is a in between movie where we see the cars enslaving humans to. To modify all of this stuff and then they eliminate them. Yeah, I almost see them as like Venus fly traps that once you enter inside the car, it uses some sort of enzymes to turn you into a goo. Right. And then it uses you to kind of stitch, like, you know, your.

Your neurons together to make the car better. Ooh. Okay, now there we go. That. That’s blessing up that second movie or that interim movie. Put me in charge. Lassiter. Come on, man. You saw what you did. It wasn’t great. I can probably do slightly better. And I think you have to make your plea to Iger these days last, I believe is animating again somewhere else. You know, it’s kind of like how Kevin Clash, eventually, he’s another one. It’s always fun when you see the years active and it has a hole in there. I was just looking at Kevin Clash’s wiki since Elmo came up a few days ago, Right.

Oh, I was talking about how he never liked Elmo because Elmo started on Sesame street in 85 and I was 6 years old, and that’s exactly the spot where Elmo would show up on Sesame Street. And I’m already starting to not watch Sesame Street. And then I’m like, then they got Elmo on there. And I think people my age in particular really hate Elmo. But yeah, it was just like Kevin Clash 1978 or whatever to 2012. 2018 to present. Army Hammer is a similar one where it’s like, you know, 2000 to 2023, 2024 to present. You know, it’s like they.

They put in your wiki, like the. The period of time you were canceled and then when you got uncanceled. Canceled if. Except the cancel culture is not real, so. Well, Elmo. Elmo got canceled rightfully. Right. So maybe. Maybe you just. Oh, he’s a rightful one. Stacey’s making movies in Europe, right? Yeah. And I bet. I wonder if Spacey has a, like, years active like that too. I bet he does. I just found that’s an interesting thing. Like the years that you have been disgraced sometimes very rightfully. Kevin Spacey and. Oh, well, actually, Kevin Clash, when I looked at his thing, it said he was a He was never, like, convicted or anything of molesting minors.

And the statute of limitations has now passed. So, I mean, Polanski still gets nominated for stuff, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they’re still signing waivers or, you know, go, go changeme.org petitions or whatever on his behalf. Let’s see. Years. I’m very curious what they say. Years act. Okay. Years Active on Spacey. Spacey has never been not active because he was still making those, Let me be frank videos, you know? So that’s an interesting one maybe because that’s an A list star, they can’t do that. Where if it’s a B list star like Armie Hammer or a almost behind the scenes guy like Kevin Clash, you can do that, you know, get too.

Too big to fail. Now this is a fun game. Now I have to see what they put Years Active on the cause. That could be interesting. Years. What? Years Active is years. You’re not canceled. Yes, Bill Cosby, who is not dead yet. I don’t think he’s in good health, but 1961 to 2014. Now, in his case, old age is also a factor there, but he also happened to cancel right about then, so. Yeah, but also, you’re talking about Ghost dad, so he might actually keep going on even after he dies. Ghost Dadding around. Ghost. Oh, my God, they should totally come out with a Ghost Dad 2 right after Bill Cosby dies.

I do wonder, like, if people do sit down, crack open a DV set and, like, binge watch the Cosby show anymore. I mean, because technically it’s still a good sitcom, right? People liked it back in the day. At least. I Spy, that’s supposed to be a good show, right? Can you watch I Spy? I Spy is. Am I getting the title wrong? Cosby’s first TV show. Oh, no, I think you’re right. That and then Picture Pages. Wasn’t it with the little word, oh, that’s in between? Yes, yes, yes. But yeah, yeah, because I Spy is a weirdly forgotten show.

Because that was like, I think a pretty big one back in the day. Yeah, yeah, I spy’s right in 65. That’s earlier than I thought. Okay. Crazy. So I’ve never seen much of that show. Another spy show, though. I can. I can. I can always segue this back to cars, too, somehow. Spies. I’m on spies now. I’m doing good. Is there a car afterlife? Do they have souls? They. They. Let’s see. They turned up the human race in the black goo with their Venus flytrap engines, like when one of these cars dies, does it. It’s just dead? Or is there, like, a car heaven and a car hell? Is there a car? Like Nirvana? There’s eternal dmv.

If I was thinking about Pixar, So this is, like, where you go. It’s kind of like Beetlejuice. You go to the dmv. Yeah, I’m just thinking about how bureaucratic, obsessed Pixar seems to be under the surface. So it has to be some kind of bureaucracy in their car. So DMV makes the most sense. DMV of the damned. The soul question is a fun one, too, because then it gets into the whole ship of Theseus thing that if. If I replace Lightning McQueen’s door, is it still Lightning McQueen? What if I replace both? Yeah. Well, at what.

At what point does it stop being Lightning McQueen? Once I swap all the different parts out. Carburetor. That’s. It’s like the pineal gland of a car is the carburetor. Carburetor. You can’t change if you end up with golem if you change the carburetor. Okay. I’d be good in the writer’s room. Very decisive. Yeah. I guess at the end of watching this movie, I found myself, like, liking all of the cars less. Like. Yeah, all of them. Like the. The who. Who voices the. The lady car. I can’t even remember anyone’s name after watching this. Is it for, like, Mater? You know, I’m looking at the wrong page, that’s why.

Let’s see. Holly shift. Oh, that’s Emily Mortimer’s voice. Yeah. A lot of the characters are just, like, making, like, a token appearance. Like, the Luigi just shows up for like, a split second. Right. The. The Tony. Yeah. I mean, again, most of this movie is. Is based around these new characters and, like a spy movie. It’s a. It’s a James Bond for babies, essentially. Oh, yeah. Bonnie Hunt. There we go. Geez. Bonnie hunt is, like, 20th on the cast list of cars, too. She’s like, number two or three in the first one, so I guess she’s just like, we have.

I. I don’t know what’s up with that. I guess I just didn’t. Well, we barely even hear about her, let alone seeing the movie. It’s because Lightning McQueen goes back to Radiator Springs and spends the whole day with Mater, and then he’s like, oh, I’m gonna go have dinner with my girlfriend now. And that’s pretty much the only appearance that we get. Yeah. Yeah, it’s Kind of like they contractually just had to go back to Radiator Springs because they’d sign these people for maybe two picture deals. So he’s got to have. He literally has to have dinner with his girlfriend.

Right. Because Bonnie Hunt’s got to do that scene. There’s a certain tone to this movie that feels like contractual obligation. Like, you almost feel it come across in the story. What does Laster say? I kept looking out, thinking, what would Mater do in this situation? While I was going around the world promoting the first, I could imagine him driving around on the wrong side of the road in the uk going around in big, giant traffic circles in Paris or on the autobahn in Germany, dealing with the motor scooters in Italy. He just described the movie National Lampoon’s European vacation, by the way, like, almost literally in a roundabout for two hours.

Hey, kids, there’s big Bennett again. Okay? He said a roundabout in Paris. The roundabout in European vacation was also in England. And then he said that Mater would be confused by the road signs in Japan. Mater could also ride on the wrong side of the road in Japan. Drive on the left here. So I. I wonder how I drive in America. Now. That would be fascinating. I bet. I crash especially in Atlanta also. You know what? There’s something about an American writing team, like American creative team, writing about how obnoxious an American tourist is in another country.

I almost feel like they should have had this written by, you know, like, Japanese writers and then have them write their take on an annoying American tourist, like, fish out of water story. Yeah, I’m trying to think of them because, you know, I mean, the Swedish Americans tend to watch mostly American movies. There’s some British stuff. I’ve seen some Bollywood lately. I’m trying to think of where I’ve seen a good, annoying American Japanese drama. So there’s the morning drama, which is typically more like the family drama. Right. And then there’s the evening drama, which is more like the historical one.

And what do they have? Sometimes they’ll just find, like, anybody to do the. The American or European role. So they. They usually don’t have that much charm. It was a big deal 10 years ago because they’re going to have. One of the leads of one of these shows was actually American. I think she was mostly speaking English on the Japanese show. What’s really fun, the Japanese shows is when there’s a character on the drama that. That it’s like, this person knows English. They need to do the business deal because they know English. But the actor doesn’t really know English.

So when it’s time for them to perform a scene in English, they’re doing it really phonetically and like awkwardly and unnaturally. So that. That’s looking at from the other side of the coin, I guess. But they don’t really show the American tourists in these cases. So I’m not sure. Yeah, we. We’re happy showing Japanese tourists. You already know exactly what they’re going to look like. They’re going to have like a camera. They’re going to drive up to you in a car and start doing Howard Cassel voices. That’s what they’re going to do if you seem better off dead.

There was one part of this movie that stood out to me and I was like, that doesn’t seem right. And this is when Mater makes his way into the private jet and he’s kind of officially being initiated in a way of knowing that he’s with spies. And they bring him into this, like, secret lair. And the first thing that the British, you know, James Bond car does. What is it? His name is Flint. The first thing that he does is shows him all these different weapons and he’s like, you look a little light on, you know, firepower, mate.

And he like shows them all these different. And I was thinking, if anyone in this entire franchise has a gun or a rifle rack, it’s got to be Mater, right? Like, man may. There’s no way Mater’s not packing guns. If this is a Disney universe in which the character he’s born a tractor tripping, tipping. I guess you can be into both. You know, he’s got a rifle rack in there somewhere. Yeah, yeah. Well, no, he’s got it. That’s why he’s got his big chompers. He didn’t need a rifle rack. He’s gonna. He’s gonna eat whatever he needs.

He can eat metal. He’s matter eating lad from the Legion of Superheroes. If you want to get real. Comic book dork. So. But. But cars clearly are cannibals, right? Cannibals. I know my theories are eating humans, but a car. Okay, well, what. What is happening when a car siphons gasoline out of another car? Isn’t. Is that a blood transfusion? Yes, that’s a blood transfusion. That’s not cannibalism. If I drink your blood, it’s not cannibalism. I’m a vampire. Or doing a. Or I’m doing a really lo fi blood transfusion. So gas. So gas is blood, not oil.

Gas is blood. Not. Okay. Oil. Oil is. Is oil would have to be the blood. Right? Oil. Circular. Okay, so gas is food. Yeah, gas, but. But it’s not the car. It’s not the car itself. Right. It’s still, you know, like. Correct. And the, and the alcohol they drink is fuel additive. They’re drink. Yeah, well, it goes into the digestive system, AKA the gas tank. There’s the dream that you can run a, you know, alcohol field cars, right. So don’t make your own. You’ll. You’ll be dead in a week. But see, that would also be a very fun character.

They, they introduced the character that runs off alcohol and he’s just constantly drunk. Here’s my car sequel. The Humans are not Dead. This is a time machine situation. We are in the far flung future on the Pixar timeline. So the, the cars are the Eloy and the humans are the Morlocks, keeping everything running under the surface of the Earth. The cars are just our avatars. No, they’re not even our avatars. They’re the Eloy. If, you know, the time machine, the Eloy. Just. In that case, the humans are eating the cars, though, because the Morlocks occasionally have to eat an Eloy or two.

Right. It breaks down a little bit. Yeah, it does break down a little bit. I’m just trying to sci fi up the situation though, see how that works out. But I guess for me, the, the one of the biggest things we’re sitting here, I keep veering away, pun intended, for cars too, because I can barely remember this movie. And I just watched it last night, you know, it just like, isn’t sticking in my brain at all. Well, again, I think it’s because they departed from everything that really made Cars one good. And what you come away remembering the most in this one is pretty much all about Mater.

Like, they’ve developed Mater so much. And that’s when I was talking before where I felt like, oh, this is the formula where they, they turn it into a video game because at the very end, Mater gets to hold on to these kind of like rockets, which kind of act as nitrous, for example. And as they’re racing, they’re racing around town. Usually Lightning McQueen would be the one. That would just be everyone, right? Because he’s the fastest car around. But now Mater can actually keep up with Lightning McQueen, even beat him in certain conditions. And I was feeling like this is for all the kids or, or all of the executives that want to sell the Mater toys and no one’s going to want to Play with a Mater that can’t even keep up with Lightning McQueen.

Lightning McQueen is going to be the. But now, if there’s a version of Mater that can keep up with them, well, it’s kind of Mario Kart like, you got to make sure that all the different characters have something about them to make them worthy of like racing Mario. Right? So now this is Mater’s moment where he gets elevated. He almost gets to get a taste of like what. Like the. The ubermensch is in the. In the world of cars where it’s normally lightning McQueen. Paul Pow. I want a Mater with him, rocket strapped on to him.

I don’t want no Mater with no rocket, not strike bound to him. I wrote this because the plot of the movie is that they’re gonna kill McQueen, right? But maybe Mater actually does this. I wrote the killing of the McQueen ritual, but maybe that’s the thing. They foil the spy movie version of it, but Mater manages the. The pop culture version of it, you know, because it is. It’s now Mater’s franchise. He’s top build Now Larry the Cable guy got think it’s build over Owen Wilson now. Now I want to see a JFK version of Cars where it’s the.

They’re riding human Cadillac limousine. Yeah. Or you can put JFK and all in there and then just have the car. Hey, hey, vote for John. I guess it wasn’t an election, period, but. Or you just. You just make the limousine sound like jfk. Oh, yeah, sure. Or. Or you put cars in the cars. That could be fun. Cars and cars. I did know. I. I did find it amusing that the airplane was just the cargo hold, but they installed like, you know, TVs into the cargo hold. So do they install heaters into the cargo hold? Cars don’t care about temperature, do they? We have cars traveling in boats and in planes.

So it almost feels like cars are the dominant species out of all these different, you know, like, vehicles. Well, we talked about how in the original cars, we only see them a little bit in here, but how Lightning Queen’s truck is kind of fills that role too. And that is a car or a truck. Or maybe it’s. Cars are above trucks. Trucks are also second class citizens. Mater’s a small truck. People don’t like him that much. You could do like a turducken situation where Lightning McQueen gets inside the truck and then the truck gets inside a cargo plane.

Well, planes is coming up soon. That is the spin off from this. So there’s not enough of them. They Need a spin off in every direction. Two plane movies. I’m sure they had boats on the mine. They make some boats. Disney’s breaking new ground with boats coming this summer. So looking, I’m gonna see if there’s anything I else I really want to throw out of my notes. They got that quick into the wild thing where. Where they’re going. Going off into nature, which is kind of a weird thing for a car thing to do. And. And it also takes all of two minutes, so it doesn’t really go anywhere.

The one scene too where Mater eats the wasabi thinking it is pistachio. This reminded me of that scene in Big where Tom Hanks eats the shrimp cocktail, thinking that I think it’s like ketchup or something, and he ends up getting like a mouthful of horseradish too. Yeah. I don’t know trope now. I. Horseradish wasabi. It’s. Maybe it’s the way my sinuses are constructed. I mean. Yeah, I can see the effect that it just kind of. Just kind of rushes on through. It doesn’t. It’s not like, you know, drinking hot sauce that. That’ll intensify me more than wasabi.

Wasabi. Horseradish is in it. It’s gone, you know, I think. Right. Well, it’s, it’s. It’s not capsaicin, is it? I guess not. Yeah. Yeah. I guess that’s a difference because that’ll just stay in your mouth for the next. That’s an oil. Yeah. And that’ll soak into whatever it touches and it’s. It’s there for a while. Yeah. I mean, I’m lame. I just. Actually, you can get hot sauces in Japan, but I’m usually just Tabasco in. So Bask on pizza. Do. Do Americans do Tabasco on pizza? Yeah. Okay. I never did in America, but I do all the time in Japan.

Just curious. Yeah, I think hot sauce on pizza is. Is pretty typical honey. Hot honey on pizza is typical hot honey. Do you do Tabasco and honey? That was a conundrum. Well, there’s actually a special kind of honey. The brand. One brand name is Mike. Mike’s Hot Honey, I think. And it’s basically chili pepper infused honey. Okay. I didn’t. I didn’t do that. I put on the honey that I put on the Tabasco. So I mean, both work. I guess it’s the same thing really. But like I said, it was the movie felt kind of long.

I wanted to end at the same time. When it ended, I was like, what did Anything actually really happen there. So just. Do things happen in James Bond and Mission Impossible movies? And how is that different from here, a James Bond movie? I guess it is true that at the end of a James Bond movie, if you. You’re meant to sit there and explain how the plot flows, you’re kind of like, huh, I don’t know. Well, in a James Bond movie you get to see blood and nipples. And in this movie you don’t get to see either of those things.

Also, James Bond movies just do a much better job of laying down the. So James Bond, you see James Bond do something insane and impressive and usually Tom Cruise, now Mission Impossible, they go on a little mission that has nothing to do with the rest of the movie usually. And this has that. But it’s Michael Caine. It’s not our regular cars crew. So it does have a disconnect there where it is James Bond or Ethan Hunt in those other movies. Right? Well, and again, this one we got Bill Murray and the man who Knew Too Little as opposed to a Jason Bourne or a James Bond.

Right. So we have to have the fish out of water. That’s how we’re getting the jokes. I get that. I’m just kind of thinking that this is a flawed concept from the start, I guess is where I’m going. So. So then an important scene we get is explaining the mission to James Bond or Ethan Hunt receiving his message. That’s about self destruct. Right. We get the exposition there. Here we get a stranger showing up. So we have to world build and set the stage for lightning McQueen and Mater and everyone and explain what’s going on and all that.

So by the time we get through all of that, nothing really stuck, I guess is what I’m saying. Right? Yeah, they have so many. They’ve got like four different subplots going on in this movie. So there’s the McQueen is getting embarrassed by Mater and you know that that’s going to have to be resolved at some point. Then you’ve got the MI6, CIA, sort of like secret lemon society all working. That’s its own little subplot. Then you’ve got the all in all versus ethanol, the whole like the green movement versus the fossil fuel movement. Then you have the race itself.

All of these different things go on at the same time. So it almost felt like in the original Cars movie there was only like one or two motifs that you had to keep track of. And this one they got like four or five going on, but none of them are really high stakes. So none of them really feel that important. Like, for example, if all of this were to go according to the evil plan, all that would have happened is that people go back to using fossil fuels instead of alternative fuels, which is exactly.
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