Paranoid American Paranoid American Podcast 012: Chaz of the Dead

The Paranoid American Podcast, launched in 2012, explores a myriad of conspiracies and secret societies. The program also includes discussions with guests, such as Chaz of the Dead who seeks to explain paranormal events and phenomena. The host, Chaz, ponders over the relationship between psychedelics and paranormal experiences, observing parallels in time distortion, emotional reactions, and other subjective experiences that often occur under both circumstances.
The speaker discusses the crossover between hallucinations and paranormal experiences, highlighting the tendency of such experiences to leave physical traces. The speaker is unafraid to interact boldly with these phenomena, likening the current state of paranormal study to the alchemy era. They also speak about manifesting experiences through belief and the power of the collective unconscious, suggesting that our minds might create patterns from disincarnate information, which could potentially explain hauntings.
The speaker describes their perspective on paranormal activities, arguing that ghost hunting is more akin to a “technological seance”. There’s a psychological element to it; the collective unconscious might play a role, and people must be willing to join it halfway. The speaker also discusses the power of belief and suggestion and the importance of shared experiences, using examples such as finding money when one is specifically looking for it. Lastly, they encourage those interested in the paranormal to explore it via books, experiments, and open-mindedness.
The text discusses urban legends, particularly Slenderman, and their psychological influence on people. It suggests these legends can manifest as a form of mental contagion due to collective belief and energy, using Slenderman and the related violent attack by two girls as an example. It further explores various topics ranging from the authenticity of alleged historical events such as Osama bin Laden’s burial at sea to Shakespeare’s authenticity and popular conspiracies about the Denver International Airport and Walt Disney’s frozen head.
The lengthy discussion covers various topics like conspiracy theories, the legitimacy of the moon landing, the possibility of the intentional injection of psychedelics into pop culture by the CIA, and the role of government in such activities. The text also reflects on the idea that the government could possess more control and influence over events and happenings than commonly believed.
The discussion revolves around the cultural practice of using mushrooms and the involvement of government agencies like the CIA. Additionally, it explores the illegal status of psilocybin mushrooms in Florida in 2023, stating it as an unfortunate side-effect of a red-state party system. Furthermore, it touches on the topic of natural psychedelics versus lab-created ones, the controversial possession of the body by the government, the legality and use of substances like Aliescalene, K2, salvia, and DMT, and speculations about DMT being synthesized by the human body.
The speaker discusses the possibility of an elaborate human-led conspiracy withholding information about a separate branch of technology based on nature observation. They speculate on the existence of alternative physics understood by select groups, which may be used to deceive the public into thinking aliens are imminent. They also touch on the intriguing concept called B Theory, or Superfluid Theory, which is potentially linked to unusual paranormal experiences and kept secret by certain secretive societies throughout human history.
The text discusses a series of curious scientific innovations and theories linked to free energy devices, sexual theory, the UFO phenomenon, and the supposed prolific disappearance of superfluid researchers, hinting at potential governmental cover-ups. It also mentions the author’s investigations into paranormal events and his related books along with his presence on various sociable platforms and his works in Paranormality magazine.

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How’s it going? Hold on 1 second. The dog is giving me 1 second. So he needs no introduction, and that’s good because he’s not here to give it. Chaz of the Dead is someone that I met a while ago on the Realities Ours podcast. Shout out to Nate, and Chaz is somewhat of an expert in a few different paranormal realms. So first of all, let’s take him out of the window.

He’ll come back up. He’s creeping back. So I was given a quick introduction that you’re a man of many different talents. Actually, I just learned something new about you before we started here. But I met you on the Realities Ours with Nate, and you were kind of talking about haunted houses so first of all, where can people find you? Like websites and social media and all sort know, props up front? Oh, yeah, you can find me on all the social media at Chazofthedead.

You can find my appearances and stuff@chazofthedead. Com, though I think that needs to be updated. And then you can find most of my writing over@paranormalitymag. com paranormality magazine where I do all kinds of research and organize the issues and stuff that they put together. So if you like all kinds of high strangeness, whether that’s bigfoot UFOs or ghosts and goblins, we like to cover a little bit of everything.

So that’s kind of what I do. I travel around and do some psychedelic experiments and talk to witnesses and try to make some sense out of this strangeness when I can. So it’s funny, you brought up the psychedelic right out the gate so I can’t remember exactly where this was from. It was like an old conspiracy theory coloring book from I don’t know, like early two thousand s.

It was like a jokey type thing and there was this one page and it was like we’ve got UFOs, we’ve got aliens, we’ve got bigfoot and we’ve got political conspiracies and it’s like can you connect the dots? And when you connected them it was just like a big pot leaf, you know what I mean? But it was a good joke because it does tend to be the glue that binds between all these different paranormal aspects right out the gate.

I’m curious, what do you think about the role of psychedelics specifically in paranormal research because it seems like there’s a huge overlap and do you think it’s necessary? Oh yeah, well I definitely think it’s an interesting question because I’m going to go in here and you might come away being like oh well, he sounds pretty skeptical overall because right out the gate that is the explanation of most skeptics.

Right? Okay, you saw something paranormal, you hallucinated, you had some kind of hallucination and that’s the explanation. And as someone who’s willingly hallucinated multiple times, they have a point because there is absolutely a list you can draw up of similarities between the paranormal experience, whether it’s any of these subgenres and the psychedelic experience. I mean you have the obvious glaring ones. Missing time. That’s one I’ve had on mushrooms before where I thought I was just staring at the wall for maybe two minutes and 3 hours had passed.

Are you hallucinating right now by any chance? No, I just got off of work. I might be. Okay, you’ve got a baseline? Baseline. I try to actually keep my psychedelic experiments for the field these days because when I was a little bit younger I was doing them pretty gung ho one after another or weekend to weekend and there were some negative health effects. Definitely be careful out there.

What do you consider the field? Like when are you like, okay, I’m on the clock now? That’s a very good question because 90% of what I do is actually sitting at the computer researching it’s. That 10% where I’ve either found a story or a location or something that requires that physical follow up just to be in the presence and in that area. And then if it checks out that second kind of vibe check and that vibe check can include are there park rangers stationed nearby? There’s a variety of factors that go into how friendly are the paranormal and the normal.

Exactly. And sometimes I’m traveling abroad and access to substances can be limited and things like that. And so a lot of factors go into it. But more often than not, after testing it out a couple of times, doing your traditional normal ghost hunting stuff, I’ll go back and conduct a more psychedelic based experiment. Whether that’s a heavy trip or a light dose, it kind of depends on the scenario because I’ve kind of tuned it to see that different investigations warrant different kind of an approach.

But this notion that the paranormal experience and the psychedelic experience, they are very much a kid missing time viewing of strange worlds, right. People who are abducted by aliens and taken to these far off lands, these impossible landscapes. Anyone who smoked DMT will report something similar. This one I find super interesting is the emotional reaction. You tend to get one of two emotional reactions to both psychedelics and paranormal experiences.

And this helps to think of alien abductions, particularly in this case, right? So a lot of people abducted by aliens and they come away with this sense of, well yeah, it was against my will, it was in the middle of the night, but it showed me that there’s a bigger universe out there and I feel one connected. They’re here to help us. And this universal love and peace is one of the most common reported factors.

And then on the flip coin, you have your Betty and Barney Hills where they’re terrified. It’s a non consensual experience. They’re getting their shit diddled and it’s horrifying by these terrible creatures that smell like sulfur and it sucks. And that’s really interesting because that’s pretty much the two reactions you have when people take psychedelics for the first time, right? I mean, the majority of people have a very well, not the majority, it’s hard to put a number on that, but a large percentage of people have that oneness.

That’s almost a universal aspect of particularly mushrooms and peyote and some of the more natural psychedelics. But I’m not going to be one of those guys and sit here and say mushrooms is the answer. Everyone needs to take mushrooms because I know some people who’ve taken mushrooms and it was not for them. You can have that exact opposite reaction, that absolute terror. This is the worst experience I’ve ever had and I don’t want anything to do with it.

I never want it to happen to me again. And so that dichotomy very much exists within the paranormal experience as well. Even Bigfoot, you have those two versions of him, right? You have the Lovable goofball bigfoot. Who likes the Harry? Harry and the Henderson’s bigfoot. Yeah, he wants to steal your peanut butter. It’s fun to take on a family vacation and then you might stand up to a bully for you.

Yeah, well, and then you have the ones that terrifying the glowing red eyes and he like, tears up the car and leaves these deep scratches. Again, it’s this dichotomy. And there’s a few other more minor ones. In my first book, I wrote a full list. I think it’s like seven or eight of these key experiences that are the same in the paranormal as with psychedelics. Now, the difference is from a hallucination, because I’ve had plenty of those.

And something that’s paranormal is physical crossover, right? Because what happens, what’s different between a UFO case and a Bigfoot case and just taking mushrooms in the woods is that there’s a physical imprint, whether it’s scorch marks or in rare cases of abduction, implants. Bigfoot, he likes to leave footprints and again, these impressions on the land. And there’s this physical aspect to it. Now, that doesn’t necessarily mean that these things are entirely physical, but that, I think, is the marker of a true paranormal experience.

And while a lot of people will just be able to write it off and say, well, it sounds like a hallucination, so it must have been that they’re throwing out the baby with the bathwater in that scenario. And so the goal here is to, I guess, examine the connections between the two phenomenon because there’s kind of an awareness that it’s there, but it’s either used to completely dismiss it or it’s used to I guess I’m the one using it to say, hold on now.

It doesn’t desist it. It actually validates these sightings in a strange way. Our reality is and anyone who’s taken psychedelics knows that our reality is a lot more malleable than we tend to believe on a day to day basis. And so understanding those strange mutations of reality and how they can affect the populace in a physical way, I think is very much worth studying. You mentioned willingly, you’re used to willingly having these hallucinations and going on these and that was one of the differences, too, right, between these two.

And I’m just curious, would you willingly get abducted by an alien as well, or would you cross the line? Would you say, like, if it’s going to enter physical reality? Okay, so you’d raise your hand for that. Would you be the dude on the top of the building like, welcome to Earth from Independence Day get obliterated. Yeah, well, you don’t have to know that part. Maybe not. Spoiler alert, by the way.

Spoiler alert. The people that greet the aliens usually get blown up. Spoiler alert for those whatever movie you’re watching. Definitely the entire point of these experiments is kind of egging it on. And that’s kind of been my approach from the get. Right. And I’ve always find that as an interesting dichotomy, especially in the ghost hunting world. Right. Because there’s all these big no, no’s. Right. They’re like don’t do this, don’t do that.

Ouija boards or upside down crop, whatever it is. And my whole perspective going in initially in that ghost hunting kind of background was, well, wouldn’t you want to do those things? If these are the bad things that will make an activity happen, then what are we doing here? That’s what we want. We want to be able to do it. And it’s this idea that and again, I get it all the time.

It’s dangerous, especially from the religious people. It’s dangerous. Yeah. So was exploring the northern passage, but people still had to do it to get to fucking find it. And so just because something’s dangerous doesn’t mean it’s not worthwhile it’s. Like saying, oh, well, don’t study tigers. They’re dangerous. You’re going to get hurt. And so we should just ignore tigers forever. Don’t antagonize the tigers. But I also see an analogy here where the people that are like, don’t disrupt the ghost.

Here’s the rules. They’re the ones that are like, maybe take half of this pill the first time, and you just walk in the room and you grab a handful and you’re just like, blip, blip, blip. Yeah. You’re like, hey, what are we doing here if we’re not going to do this? I’m ready. Let’s go for it. And so that is an extreme example. I don’t necessarily want to be one of the several hundred people who was eaten by tigers before they managed to capture one, but I like to equate it more as the field of the paranormal is very much we’re in the alchemy stage, right? Where there’s alchemy with a bunch of weirdos making up words in the dungeons of castles, mixing sludges together.

But now, hundreds of years later, uranium isn’t a made up word. It’s an actual thing, and we can visualize it and know its abilities and things like that. And so I do think the paranormal one day it will be called something totally different. Alternate reality studies or some shit like that. Who knows? It’ll be chemistry, what chemistry is to alchemy. Now, if you were to go back in time and try to explain it, they would kind of see what you’re saying, but they would be like, oh, shit.

What the fuck? We’re in that scenario here. We’re the alchemists. And so it is going to take a lot of guesswork and experimentation that is on the fringe aspect of it, which is not going to be the most productive. But lucky for me, it also happens to be the most fun. I’m glad I’m not a paranormal investigator 200 years from now where you have to go to school for it.

Get licensed. Yeah, fucking eight year degree and then an apprenticeship. Fuck all that. I get to take drugs in the woods, haunted houses and shit. I like the idea of antagonizing ghosts to like not because I’m an asshole to the dead, right? But it’s because if we’re out here ghost hunting, and we’re out here to see paranormal activity. Why not be a catalyst? Why not stir something up? And I’m curious, does that apply to demons? Would you invoke a demon and start talking about its mom? Well, let me put it this way.

I’m never going in it from that kind of like Zach Baggins perspective where I’m convinced I’m going to talk to a dead person or a demon or whatever. I have a much more universal consciousness, kind of White Lodge, Black Lodge, if you’re a Twin Peaks fan kind of perspective on it, where these entities, they’re as complex as humanity is, whatever they are. And I find giving them names like demons and things like that falsely empowers them because a lot of demons just start out as like a spooky noise.

And then if you start putting your belief into it, if you’re like a Catholic schoolgirl and you’re really afraid of the devil and puberty and whatnot, you’re going to start manifesting this kind of experience. The human mind certainly meets the phenomenon to a certain perspective, and I think that’s what is reflected by the similarities between psychedelics and the paranormal. And I do think this was kind of unfortunately for us now, this was known by a lot of the societies of the pre colonized Americas.

Shamanism was a very common aspect of life. And I’ve always found it really interesting that we accept it now as modern people, that those shamans were the doctors of their community. They absolutely could heal people and do things what we would consider the most medically advanced. It’s hard to be a doctor. That’s clearly a science, right? But then they have this whole spiritual side of their practice, and we’re like, that was all nonsense.

And I really do think we lost a great deal of understanding on what these, again, entities is still a strong word, because even that doesn’t necessarily pan out. There’s this concept that based in Carl Jung’s shit of the collective unconscious, and that perhaps ghosts and demons and these things are a type of pareidolia within the collective. You know, say someone passes, you don’t even have to die. Every memory or story or idea exists not only in our head, but in this nonphysical neural network between all human beings.

And again, we see this in fish and ants and lots of wolves. This isn’t a far out there concept. And so the idea is that perhaps if you’re looking at this web of information, disincarnate information, your mind’s going to do what we do always when we’re looking at static or the stars, it’s going to do a pareidolia, it’s going to find a pattern. And so we start cherry picking little pieces of information.

And you can see this in every single ghost hunting show ever. If they do EVPs, most of them are nonsense, right? It’ll say a bunch of random words or whatever. And again, that has to do with the technology. That technology is made up bullshit, but it’s an accurate representation of what might be occurring with the collective unconscious. And this idea of hauntings. We look into this mass of webs and we find all the details that match with it being a demon or all the details that match with it being a ghost of a Civil War soldier or whatever.

Again, one possible theory. I try not to buy into one theory wholly one way or another. Every day I wake up though, and I do believe one more than another and constantly shifting battle. You said something that was a little bit sacrilege within the ghost hunting community and you’re taking jabs at the technology and I mean, if you’re spending $200 on $30 worth of parts, then you’re going to be pretty biased and think that your technology is working, right? So I’m just curious, is there any technology all that you think is legit when it comes to ghost hunting? Or is technology incompatible with trying to detect this other world? No, I actually think that what they’re doing is just one step behind what actually totally, I get it.

I said this on a YouTube documentary a couple months ago. They were know we’re doing this kind of group of podcasters. We’re going on their first ghost hunt. And I told them that when I go out in the field to do paranormal work and if I’m with a ghost hunting group because I like to hang out, I always approach it in my mind that we’re not hunting ghosts.

We’re not going to a place and we’re going to corner them in a room and get them in a bag and capture it like it’s ghostbusters. What we’re actually doing is what I like to call a technological seance and these tools and there’s something about and this goes into the rules of hypnosis and a bunch of weird shit, but there is something about spending a bunch of money on shit.

It’s the same thing that cults do, right? You put in a bunch of money and then you don’t want to admit it’s bullshit because then you wasted your money and so it locks you in psychologically. And the same effect I think works with this kind of technology and applying it to this, it locks you in. I tend to think most ghost hunts that have a lot of activity are more like your 1900 seances where it’s kind of like a party atmosphere.

Everyone’s having fun and maybe telling spooky stories and getting spooked out. Well, that’s one of the rules of ouija, right, is you never do it alone. Right? By its very rules, it has to be like a social thing. Yeah. And I think that again, the fact that that is a well recorded aspect through now 120 so years more. So back to the foxes. There’s 150 years of paranormal research, which again is alchemy this all could be thrown out at a later date.

But as from where we’re standing currently, that certainly suggests that there is something to the idea of the collective unconscious having a role here. And it’s the same thing. You can go to Casadega here in Florida and they’ll do a table tipping service for you where you all put your hands on the table and it starts to dance and move around like a traditional 1900 seance. And I personally haven’t done one yet.

They’re kind of overpriced it’s on the bucket list. I’m going to make the magazine pay for it, but I’ve had plenty of colleagues who have gone down to do it and say it’s a genuinely bizarre experience. It absolutely feels like something is controlling the table beyond you. And it’s again, the same principle with a Ouija board. I tend to lean to the idea that that’s why I’m not necessarily worried about offending a ghost or a demon or whatever.

I tend to believe that for them to appear at all, they need me to meet them halfway. We need to work together. It’s a group activity, very much like the Philip experiment and some of the follow up ones they did in Australia where they manifested a tupo or an Aggregor or whatever your preferred terminology is and got this very much real result. I’m curious. This is kind of related to that.

Do you think? This is a common question that I try to get in different ways someone’s completely brand new to this whole world, right? Like they just found out about Seances and spiritualism today. They escaped from some kind of atheist cult that didn’t let them talk to the know. It’s the village. They get out. They’re fascinated by it. Do you think that it’s possible for someone that fresh to just go on Amazon, order a bunch of books about how to do seances, how to contact Bigfoot, how to contact aliens, and just through reading books be able to successfully do it? Or do you think that you have to have some innate ability or do you have to be on some kind of wavelength? Do you have to train Miyagi style to become like, a paranormal expert? What do you got to do? Again, I think it’s one of those scenarios where it’s probably different for every individual.

That being said, yeah, go buy some. Like, if you’re interested, buy some books and try it. Like you’ll surprise yourself with some of the any books you recommend. If you’re looking to particularly have some weird spiritual psychedelic stuff without taking any substances, I highly recommend Prometheus Rising by Robert Anton Wilson. I’m a big Wilson fan. And that one again, every chapter has a little experiment at the end of it.

And if you do all of the experiments, I’m telling you, weird shit starts, it works. Weird shit absolutely happens. I actually have an example from that, but one of my favorite examples from that one, and I think because it has such an easy, rational response. But it was something like, for the next week, you’re going to look on the ground and just see $5 bill or quarters. You’re going to find quarters, and you end up do finding quarters.

And I think I found, like, a $20 bill. And I’m not even kidding when I was going through that. And it’s not that you’re well, I guess some people might argue that you’re manifesting the money by looking for it, but you could also just rationally explain away, like, well, I normally don’t look for quarters. And now that I’m just constantly looking for them, I’m finding them every once in a while.

Yeah, but that’s one of my favorite ones from that book because it’s like, oh, wow, this is doing something different. It starts to fuck up your day. So in a fun way, you’re like, Fuck again another quarter, it starts to get weird. And it’s interesting. I’ve had positive versions of that occur. There was this one instance where we were traveling cross country. We were in a desert in Arizona, I believe, miles away from anywhere.

And man, we needed to smoke a spliff. It was been a tough day. The AC was wrecked in the car, so it’s hot, and the dogs whining. And so we pull over, and we’re at each other’s throats because we’re so agitated and we need a smoke. That’s where we’re at. And I walk out a couple feet into the desert. No cars around, nothing. Middle of nowhere. We had just been visiting this ghost town, Calico.

Very weird place. And right there, pack of Marlboro Lights. My brand, completely untouched, was just sitting in the middle of the desert. And it was one of those I was, huh? Well, thank you. Universe looking out for me. What are the fucking ODS of that? It’s funny that the universe wanted you to have brand name cigarettes at that point. They know me better than give me some fucking Seneca natural light crap, right? That’s the beer, but whatever.

I have a spookier version of that is when I was a kid, I was right at the time where Slender Man had just dropped. And it was that phase where everyone was making those YouTube videos. Is this like four, six? Is it after that? No, it was after that. I remember because I was 18, I think, when those two girls stabbed the other girl for Slenderman, and they were about 14.

Spoiler alert if anyone hasn’t been paying attention to Slender Man, I guess the two girls end up killing someone at the end. It’s a good one. Check out the story. It’s bizarre, but when it first dropped, they were late to the party. I remember that happening. I was like, who believes in Slenderman anymore? That’s so old school. When I was around their age, it had just dropped. 2011 twelve.

It was just at the turn of the believe. Maybe even 2010, but something off of the little forums contest, the guy made it and it spread like a wildfire on like four Chan X and Reddit and all that shit. So it was very much in vogue at the time. And being a kid, you don’t get much sleep doing all homework and getting up early to walk to the bus and stuff.

And so I, in the twilight hours, was getting real paranoid with some Slenderman stuff and I started to find these little QC stickers, quality control stickers with the little numbers on them. And at the time I was a kid and I was like, what is up with all these weird little numbers? It’s just like the notes and all the Slenderman things. Like it’s all added up. And I started seeing them more now as an adult.

Obviously, I know those QC stickers they put on shed shoes and whatnot with a little number, no big deal. But I remember I had collected all those QC stickers at that time and this was only a few month period. I had like nearly 100 of them and nowadays I might find one or two a year, but I had this whole stack. And again, it was kind of a nocibo version of the quarter thing where I had gotten to my head.

I had connected it with this urban legend and this symbology and it started to manifest more and more. And so when it happened, when those two girls ended up, the story was they stabbed their friend a bunch of times as a sacrifice. The Slender Man. Happy ending. The girl survived, she’s okay, but it was very relatively okay. Relatively, I mean, no one’s okay. They’re all traumatized. And I think the two girls are in hospitals for a few more years.

But again, we can fix these psychological explanations. The idea that they bring this up with columbine shootings too, that two people start to play off each other in this weird dominant sub role and they end up leading to this weird, violent expression. But I do think there is something to this idea of thought forms of a mental contagion, I guess. But again, I hesitate to use that word because it has that connotation.

Because in the case of Slenderman, obviously that was a bad. But if you’re just looking for quarters, you’re going to have fair for the rest of your life, that’s pretty fucking good. So again, these things are never simply, I think, or rarely black and white. I guess there are some OD instances in the paranormal realm where you could say, yeah, it’s pretty fucked up, but most of them have a positive flip side of that coin.

There’s a head to that tail. Slenderman’s a great example here because it feels like a newer generation’s version of Bloody Mary in a way where you’d stare in the mirror with like a candle and the lights off and say Bloody Mary three times. And then that turned into Beetlejuice, maybe, but Slenderman is kind know the non boomer version of Mary, right? Like, what are the rules of Slenderman? Do you not really can you just conjure him, or does he just show up? I remember it from a video.

No, he shows up. He wants to kidnap children or whatever. And so there’s a whole there was a video. He’s working with the Clintons. You mean collect notes? Yeah. No, he’s in on it, ironically. I think there is something that is one of those elements. I think if you attach it to something, it helps feed whatever it is, whether you’re QAnon or Slenderman. Throw missing kids in, and it takes a notch of seriousness.

It adds to it. You better not joke about it now, bitch. Oh, yeah, you’ll get mean. I’m really curious on the Slenderman in particular. Is Slenderman real because he became real through just Aggregor, thought form, people putting energy into it? Does he become real because people believe it so much that they make it real in their own heads and then act accordingly? Or is there like an objective reality where you could be like, yeah, dude, if you use this special laser sensor thing and you can see him and he’s definitely there, or is it like, say it’s tough to say.

I tend to think that I heard a great analogy once. It’s kind of like asking, is Batman real? Well, no, but there’s also comic books, costumes, paraphernalia, toys, movies. Like, he certainly had a real impact on reality. And there’s definitely been people who’ve dressed up as Batman and tried to fight crime. I mean, there’s a whole subgenre of TikTok of weirdos walking around. Batman’s a good one just because he’s technically not a superhero.

He’s just really rich. Right. He just has infinite resources. Again, one of those details that helps feed the mythos. If you craft your mythos well, it can take on, I think, this reality that is not necessarily physical but certainly real. Like Batman, where he’s not necessarily physically real, but he is real. And I think there is a lot of who’s a comic book author. I think it was the Constantine guy who said he’s met Constantine in real life.

He met him in a cafe, bumped into him, and he was so awestruck that it was literally the guy he’d been drawing and writing and down to the details on his face and when he manifested him into reality or that he had just been writing about him because the guy actually existed or what exactly. Who knows? Maybe both. I think something where both of those are true in a weird reality.

Who knows? So I want to segue into a fun little segment here, and it’s just to get a temperature check on where you’re at on a bunch of different variety of topics. All right, so rules are pretty simple. You’re just going to give things a rating from one to ten. One being that’s bullshit and ten being like, oh, yeah, I’m all in. Pull up a chair, I’ll convince you too.

Right? So if you’re on the fence or you don’t care or you’ve been flip flopping on something, then that’s an obvious five. Okay, I got you. All right, are you ready? And there’s not a set number. I’m just going to do a few until we’ve got some Fodder and then we’ll do some follow ups based on what you say here. Cool. Did we bury Osama bin Laden at sea in May 2011? There’s no evidence to it, so I’m going to say zero.

Bullshit. I think that’s bullshit. Are dinosaurs real? I’m going to say, like, a seven. Yeah, probably not as real, not how we think they are. But how much do you care about Hollywood striking? Not at all. Zero. How real do you think celebrity clones are? Like Jamie Foxx for OOH. Well, maybe not that example, but Michael Jackson, that’s another popular one. I’m going to say maybe a six because I think there’s some things about that that has some merits, but not like gung ho for it.

By no means. I want to know your phone right now, if you were to turn it off completely, what’s the chance that it’s still recording you and sending your voice off somewhere? Oh, 100%. Okay. Does gold have some kind of magical or special properties beyond the ones that we’re aware of? Okay, I’m going to say five I don’t know enough about. Is there actually some sort of underground secret or some other conspiracy going on at Denver International Airport or are they just leaning into OOH, that was a good one.

I mean, it’s an airport. Shady shit has to be going down. I’m going to say six and a half, maybe. I like these scores, man. I like them a lot. Do you think the Earth is flat? Zero on it being flat. Okay, I don’t think it’s flat. Did mermaids ever exist in real life? That’s a good one. Ever exist? Yeah. As we know of them. Right? Like a half human, half fish, half human would, like, lure sailors because they were smoking hot.

See, I think the idea of a siren exists today in the woods as a skinwalker. If we’re talking siren, I’m saying ten. If you’re talking half fish, half woman, I’m going to have to put it at, like, maybe a four. Okay, that’s respectable. I think. On a side note, I think that maybe there was just some really horny sailors and they were just making excuses for hey, dude, were you bagging a fish last night? Nah, bro, it was like half it was a lady.

Half lady? Yeah, dude, it wasn’t weird what happened, that she stays at sea. It was only half weird. Do you think Walt Disney’s body or head is cryogenically frozen in case they can bring him back to life? I grew up with that one being true. So I’m going to say yeah, I’m going to say seven. How much do you trust cryptocurrency? Two. Do you think the CIA intentionally flooded pop culture with psychedelics? This one is one that I’m well versed on both sides.

I’m going to have to say seven and a half. They did. Was Shakespeare a real? Oh, I have a very specific perspective on this. I think Shakespeare was the first modern instance of a writer’s room where it was like six or seven people coming up with that curious. We’re going to get into that one in particular. I don’t know where I’d put that on the number scale. And then we landed on the moon.

That one. I’m going to have to say six because there’s a bunch of sketchy shit. But also you can see it like the stuff it’s up there. We got telescopes to look at. Want to I want to go right to Shakespeare and the writers room because I guess the most conventional one that I’m familiar with is manly. Palmer hall cited this and there’s been movies on it. But that Francis Bacon perhaps was the actual William Shakespeare.

But if Francis Bacon was involved, then Francis Bacon probably had a whole bunch of his homeboys in on it too, right? Like they were sharing like an Instagram login amongst each other and pretending it was one person. Yeah, but who’s in the writers? I’m curious. So that’s a good one. Francis Bacon I imagine maybe would be credited as like a producer. Like he might have been a writing producer a little bit.

Had some influence in there. He made sure that this guy showed up and got in town like the right time and themes that are a little propaganda here and there and know they want to make sure it’s intriguing but it’s not going to incite a know, that kind of stuff. It plays well and so know the common one of the conspiracy is that Shakespeare couldn’t write a read.

So how did he write all the fucking plays? He could have said it to somebody. But also that person probably took some creative influence on it too. And so I think there’s actually a really good skit I want to say it’s Mel Gibson’s History of the World where they do a Shakespeare and they’re in a room and they’re all doing blow. Mel Brooks. Yeah, Mel Brooks. Mel Gibson.

Mel Gibson’s history of the world actually got canceled. Would be totally fucked. I would love to see it. Rob Strouds are behind everything. Mel Brooks. And yeah, he’s like, pitch it to me, pitch it to me. And the one guy pitches Romeo and Juliet and he’s like boom. Shakespeare love it. I think that’s know close to it where it was a squad of people and they just for marketing.

Uh, they just went with the frontman name. So I want to know about the moon you gave the Moon. I want to say like a six or a seven. So you’re implying that we’ve actually been to the Moon, which I happen to agree with you on. These aren’t trick questions or anything, which is somewhat controversial in, I guess, very controversial paranormal, because now you’re buying the government story.

You’re buying the official story. My favorite rebuttal, I guess, is just that I don’t think that the Moon landing footage that was broadcast in the phone call to Nixon, I don’t think that was real. So I do think that the government faked it and lied about it and pulled a huge propaganda piece. But I also think that maybe we actually did still go to the Moon. We just didn’t have proof, and it would have looked stupid to not have proof of it.

But where are you at on this? Do you think that any of the footage was real? Do you think that a human being has stepped foot on the Moon or it’s just been robots or what? Well, there’s definitely shit up there that we put up there. That’s my perspective. Because again, there’s high powered microscope telescopes that can take a picture of the Moon surface, and you can see like a little it looks like a lander, and a couple of other specs and shit.

And there’s another experiment where you can bounce they’ve left the reflector plate so you could bounce lasers off of it, depending on the time and location. And again, I think all that kind of astronomy and shit, people have been doing that since the fucking Greek era. So I think I trust when amateur astronomers look up and say, yeah, I see this shit. I trust those people absolutely. Now, you don’t think those are NASA hologram projections? Well, again, everyone’s been able to land a rover up there, so it doesn’t necessarily mean it was manned, allegedly.

But I tend to give them the benefit of the doubt on that. Know, I’ve been to Cape Canaveral and seen a bunch of this shit. It’s a pretty good if it’s a ruse, it’s a pretty good one, especially since other nations around the world have been imitating. It spot on. Pretty cool. Just yesterday, right now, it’s August 24, but I think like a day or two ago, india just basically landed something on the Moon.

Do you believe that? Do you believe that they legit? Well, the computer graphics they showed everyone are not doing them any favor. Yeah, okay. It’s like run on a Nintendo Switch or something. Maybe they just don’t have great animators that we do at NASA. Bullshit, though. I’m on fiverr. There’s Indian dudes whipping out animation. That’s true. No, that’s true, man. Maybe they cheaped out on fiver when they put an ad up for, like, government work.

Must land lunar on Moon. Again, I think there are really weird detail, like the original tapes being missing that’s super. They were running out of tape. They had to reuse them. What do you want man? Fucking lost them. Sorry guys. Record over the most monumental achievement in human history. Someone needed Garfield reruns. My other favorite one is is it like the Danish ambassador someone they sent a moon rock and this cheeky fucker got it tested and it turns out to be fossilized wood.

Talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth. That’s awesome. That’s why you’re supposed to look a gift horse in the mouth. That’s the exact reason because they usually give you the horse with the bad teeth. That’s where that saying came from. That’s funny. But yeah there’s some weird shit. Again maybe that’s just fucking the government. Maybe they just mislabeled that shit. You know what I mean? There is always that argument of incompetence that comes in here and there when it has this conversation and it’s a stickler because yeah anyone can believe that to be true.

Like it’s a bunch of idiots in the government and they fucked a thing up. Okay yeah we can all buy that. We’re all constantly victims of that every single day. So it’s not a hard sell but it is also kind of a cop out. There definitely should be accountability when it comes to these things because it does lead to wider implications. You know what I mean? If you don’t think the moon landing happened and you think all NASA’s fake and then now you’re living on the flat earth my friend.

Slippery slide. It’s a sticker up there. That’s all it is. And speaking of the government screwing things also you pause a little bit on whether or not the CIA intentionally injected psychedelics into pop culture. And this one is in my boring mind. This is like a highly controversial thing too because won’t maybe it’s a minority, but some people are like, well, the CIA is essentially the one that introduced LSD and maybe even mushrooms through Gordon wassen and we’ll get into that in a second.

But if they hadn’t done that then maybe the psychedelic movement never would have therefore. And there’s that conspiracy. Therefore you know psychedelics are bad because the CIA wanted this to happen and if they wanted it to happen then that means then it’s like a bad thing. But you could also just say like maybe it just slipped through. They didn’t know what the hell they were doing. Or I guess in my opinion they were just trying to get ahead of something that they knew was coming and wanted to get as much research done covertly as possible before the control basically escaped from the lab because once it gets in the pop so where are you at on this particular subject being familiar with psychedelics.

So through my understanding of it and again my understanding of it is that it is a controversial subject because the psychonauts very divided especially over the battle over Timothy Leary. Poor Leary. Oh yeah where you are on Leary dude. I think he was a guy, bad guy, I think, yeah, he got some of his drugs from the government and that’s sketchy. But I do think that he was being genuine.

That being said, I think the reason the government was supplying him and others, I think Manson got his shit from them as well, was because they were doing what they did with the fucking cocaine in the 80s. They infiltrated that shit. And so the point of the CIA is to collect information. They’re not law enforcement. They’re not there to shut anything down. Their job is to embed themselves into these networks.

And so you have an illicit substance, and that means millions of dollars that you can potentially just put in your pocket. What’s? The Barry Seal guy from the fucking Tom Cruise movie? That all happened. Bill Clinton’s arkansas was a dropping pad. That was Mina, Arkansas. Hundreds, thousands of kilos, potentially, of cocaine and again distributed to the inner cities. I think they were doing the same thing with the hippie movement in the they were distributing it to the universities, to the people on the streets.

They were one of these main functions, one of these main cogs in this machine. And that was their job, to be in on all of this and collect all the information. And it’s what I think happened with Jeffrey Epstein. I think that’s what he did. He was a human trafficker that worked for the CIA. He was embedded in global human trafficking because he was getting paid by the government to be whole.

They knew what he was doing, and they were probably most likely sharing shit, and that’s why they covered that up. It’s just a normal function of we tend to put higher, like, oh, it’s the illuminati and shit, but I think it’s just normal, functioning military intelligence. That’s just day to day shit. And the reason particularly I feel, that with psychedelics is because, again, most of these are rooted besides LSD.

Almost all of them are rooted in plants that grow here in the Americas. Naturally. You know what? Any even if the government wasn’t involved, people would have still been picking mushrooms and taking them. It’s part of our human culture. We don’t exist separate from these things. The synthesis of these drugs into compounds and the particular ones that appear in certain locations at certain times is highly suspect. Clearly, they’ve done some research and they are involved in that kind of aspect.

They definitely were giving Manson some bad shit and seeing what happens. You know what? That’s honestly a great slogan that the CIA should pick up. Contact me, I’ll give you the rights. Let’s see what happens. That should just be their slogan, right? Let’s just see what happens. We’re not here to enforce the law. Yeah, they’re not the fucking FBI. And again, the FBI’s job is to bust shit.

And they sometimes just know we know that for a fact. That they fuck up a lot, intentionally and unintentionally. But the CIA has no such and the NSA, they have no such responsibility. They’re simply an information collecting network. It’s such a funny dynamic, too, to bring up on that. And I always see the FBI are almost like those stock traders on the floor that have been coked up for like four days straight.

And like, they should probably sell like, it probably hit its peak, but they’re all like, I don’t know, man. If we just hold on to this a little bit longer, maybe a little bigger tragedy will happen and we can get bigger shinier toys out of this, or we can manufacture one. Again, they know all the information. They’re in the spots to make those decisions. So what’s your opinion? Because you’re in Florida.

That why. Are psilocybin mushrooms still illegal right now to cultivate in the state of Florida in 2023? Why is that still illegal? Again, I think you’re going to see that as a side effect of our dual two party system. We’re in Florida, and we’re in a pretty red Florida at this point. The gerrymandering has gotten us kind of away from that purple Florida. And the Cubans have gotten more conservative, too.

Well, let’s not kid anyone. They’ve also started leaning that way as well. But the political system, if you say you’re going to legalize any drug specifically here in Florida or the Deep South, they’re going to say, you hate the cops. You’re light on crime. You’re not tough enough. And that’s it. That’s all it really takes for these people. These fucking well, right now they’re trying to lower the THC limits.

They’re like, your weed is too strong. Make it. I know, man. We’re just fucking haters, dude, I miss the old Libertarian Republicans who are in there, man. I dream of the day, man, when we just get a new governor and he’s like, welcome to the new Florida. Come to Disneyland. Get high, trip. You know what I mean? Like, eat some mushrooms and smoke some weed and go to Disney World and Universal Studios.

Yeah, dude. California’s. Got it. Why can’t we? Yeah, probably some legal reasons, but potential lawsuits there. But again, there’s the idea that you can regulate people on anything they put in their bodies, whether that’s or out of their bodies. Vaccines, abortions, whatever it is. The government shouldn’t be telling you what to do. We’re all individuals that should have our there’s no port in the Constitution that says we own your bodies unless you were black.

And we got rid of that part, and that was a good thing. All right, so, no, let’s not take any step back in any of that shit. That’s my where are you at on natural psychedelics versus a lab created psychedelic? Is there any difference to you to actually getting ergot from Rye and then processing that versus just starting with a precursor and developing it yourself in a garage.

So I have a positive feelings towards both for different reasons. I personally prefer, like, a PAOD button or a mushroom cap. That being said, dosage is not a thing when you just do it fresh from the source like that. And I think that’s part of it. I think that’s intentional. I think your psychedelic journey is supposed to be individualized like that. Now, for research purposes, having a dropper and being able to calculate exactly how hard you’re going to trip is also super beneficial.

So it kind of depends on the scenario. But if I’m my go to, I would prefer I like a good mushroom tea. Now, out of the synthetics, I do have a favorite. It’s Aliescalene. It’s a mescaline derivative, and I love to take that and go to museums. No weird anxiety because normally when I’m tripping balls, you’re like, everyone can tell, you know what I mean? You always have that little paranoia goblin on your shoulder.

They probably can because you’re sweating and your eyes wide open. You’re, like, hyper for whatever reason. On Alie Escaline, you just don’t give a shit, man. You’re just fucking vibing. The visuals are great, but yeah, the pure masculine, though, hard to get. I would probably go for that over it if it was more available, I think. Do your research, but I think you can order Ali Escalin on the Internet.

It’s not restricted here. I think it’s one of those designer ones. Is there like, a promo code? Is there, like, a chat? I fucking got to get one of those, man. That’s a great idea, Aliescalen. com. Hook that up. Are there any that you’re like? Synthetic weed is a big one, right? Like, K Two was huge in Florida, and they had bayou Blasters and stuff. Do you have any experience with that? No, I’ve never had a K Two experience.

I’ve smoked some weird, questionable blunts. I do have a habit of when I out drinking, I’ll smoke a blunt with a homeless guy. Do you look specifically for homeless guys? You’re like, you got a blunt? They seek me out, man. I don’t know if it’s the hair or what. You remind me of me when I was your age, son. There’s a whole thing to it. But, yeah, I’m well known around this area.

Gainesville I’m nice to the homeless. They recognize me. So I think the last time I talked to you, I was, like, kind of kidding around, but also kind of not kidding there. And correct me if this wasn’t you, but there was, like, a haunted doll somewhere in Key West. And you said that you’ve also never done salvia, and you were like, Bro, let’s do salvia, and just go look at that doll.

Haunted doll. Yeah, man. Fucking it got hard to get because they did end up banning that one, I believe Nevada. So if you go to Nevada or know someone in Nevada, it is still completely legal from what? There’s a there’s a handful of states still. Georgia, I think might even still be legal. I might look into that. Yeah. It’s also one of those ones no one’s fighting hard for, though, because it’s not, like, a fun one.

It’s not. And honestly, that’s why I think it’s so important that one in particular, because it’s not a fun one because it doesn’t attract someone that’s like, I’m going to bring this to the party. It’s like, yeah, I’m going to go and cry in a dark closet for, like, 40 minutes and just completely detach from reality. But I don’t know, man. I’ve got my own opinions on that one, but I think it’s one of the ones that people should care about and they don’t.

Yeah. No. Again, all of these substances, I think, merit further research. Beyond the as much fun as I’m having, there should be scientists doing this for sure. And you do you have Straussman in the UK doing, like, the long drip DMT experiments? Which, again, I’m not really sure how productive those like it’s hard to say, but it’s an know who knows? Do you think that the human body synthesizes DMT? That’s another controversial thing in the psychedelic world because some people believe, like, when you’re born, you get, like, an initial dose of DMT and then right before you die, your brain’s like, dude, take this trip on your way out.

It’s the only way. But from what I understand, no one has definitively proven that the human body is even capable of just synthesizing DMT by itself. Yeah, well, there’s definitely the release of DMT. Definitely. Is it’s the common explanation for the near death experience? There’s definitely something to that. I don’t know. It’s hard to say. I do worry. I try not to do DMT often. That’s one I definitely won’t use for research because, again, you’re just, like, locked there, you’re blasted off.

But also because I do worry, like, if you do too much of it, maybe that last death hit sucks. Even if it isn’t. Let’s take out the whole spiritual idea that it’s your blast off to the other side or whatever and just say it is just a nice little thing before you die. What if you’re, like, burnt out on DMT? It’s just like your fourth. Is there any more? Is that it? Yeah.

Can you give me a triple here? Your death moment is, like, just mid compared to your other fucking trip. They’re like Jazz, get ready. You’re going to cross over here’s exactly 0. 5 grams of some dried psilocybin and you’re like, what a shape. If I’m lucky. This isn’t like hot seat stuff. I’m curious. Where are you at on pyramids and aliens and stonehenge and coral Castle? Do you think that there’s architecture on the planet right now that you can go and visit that only exists because some supernatural or, like, alien beings helped construct it? Oh, dude.

I think that there is an elaborate conspiracy to withhold a separate branch of technology that has existed with humans. And I think it’s human based. I think it’s based on nature observation on our planet. Maybe the aliens helped us out. Probably not. Again, aliens as in people from other planets. Very little evidence that anyone’s fucking traveling with, like, gasoline all the way here. The math is very difficult on that.

Really. So what about the Greys and all the Roswell? And you even brought up Barney and Betty, right? Right. Some of the theories on Barney and Betty is that they originally said it was the military and then they changed their story and said it was aliens. And do you believe in any of those particular stories that high tech UFO, aliens? I think absolutely. There is this idea that abduction experience, it mirrors the Fay folk being spirited away.

Again, that’s absolutely part of the human condition. It’s been with us forever. Whether again, that occurs entirely psychedelically, partially physically, partially psychedelically, or entirely physically. All room for debate on all of those. Now, I do believe, especially in some of these cases, betty and Barney Hill in particular, but some of other abductions as well, that the government might be mirroring that on purpose. To what ends, I’m not quite sure.

But there is some great research. There’s this great book. It’s not Russ Colehart. It’s about someone in the listener comments. Send the answer to this because someone’s going to know it’s about cattle mutilations. But his theory is that it’s the government doing it because they core out the anuses in the mouth. Because that’s how you test for bovine pathogens. It’s a way of making sure a foreign country is not poisoning our meat supply.

And so they go out and do it randomly in these UFOs every once in a while. And they kind of mimic this. And it does sound crazy, but there’s a very true anecdote about how in the 50s, when the first fighter jets were being piloted, they made the pilots wear, like, gorilla masks and suits. And that way, if anybody saw them getting in and out or in an airline or saw this thing zip past, they’d be like, there was a fucking gorilla driving a plane.

There was a plane like I’ve never seen before. It would totally discredit the sighting. And that was the logic behind it. And we know they did shit like this in the 50s. Same time, again, 47 was Roswell. So I think there is this understanding that they play with. And the CIA is actually the highest paid if you’re an anthropologist, the highest paid gig you can get is with the CIA.

And it’s to study people and cultures and things like that because, again, gathering information. And so how are they using that information? Well, they might be tricking us into thinking aliens are, like, right around the corner. They’re coming close. I think there might be something to. That idea. Well, there’s been a couple waves of disclosures recently. Right. So do you think that this is ramping up to that? Yeah, every wave makes me more suspicious that it’s not aliens, for sure.

So there might be some bias in me coming out there, but the bulk of my research that I’m going through right now, I’m putting together, and hopefully a book coming out soon, maybe, I don’t know. I can’t put a date on it. It’s been years in the making, but it’s coming together. But there does seem to be this alternative mode of physics that is understood by select groups of people, potentially various governments, and they are absolutely happy to let us think it’s aliens while they play whatever weird Cold War chess game they’ve got going.

It’s I personally call it B Theory because I was exposed to it first by this crazy dude in Morocco who told me, very nonchalantly that, oh, yeah, I know people who fly UFOs. Yeah, UFOs are based off honeybees. There’s an anti gravity chamber thingy and they’re a Thorax or whatever, and they reverse engineered that, and that’s how UFOs work. And he said it like that very nonchalant older American dude living in Morocco.

There were some weird things about him, but such a crazy story at the time, I had written it off. I didn’t even bother writing about it for my WordPress blog at the time, you know what I mean? But years and years later, these little details keep popping up where that guy was fucking onto something. I don’t know if he was entirely there, but he certainly was onto something.

And through my current research, it seems that it’s well, I call it B Theory because of the bees and it’s a fun story, but the more accurate name is probably Superfluid Theory. And it’s this idea that there is a universal superfluid and this concept of superfluid, it’s science, so I’m going to fuck it up. My explanation is not going to be entirely accurate. If there’s any quantum chemists listening.

There are. This interview is actually exclusively for quantum chemists. Good. I need your feedback, but this is close, but there’s been three Nobel Prizes awarded to this superfluid research, and it all involves helium, and specifically, I believe, helium three, which when you cool to this specific temperature, right above absolute zero, it’s like 0. 1246, that exact number. It does this weird thing. So the normally gas helium, when you get it cold, it becomes a liquid, and right before you get it to absolute zero, it enters this superfluid state.

And you can watch it on videos. It literally just falls through the bottom of the container. It phases out through the sides of the container and interestingly, it rides up the side in this weird gravity defining way and kind of like sprinkle mists out the top of the glass as well. And it’s because at this temperature, the particles are vibrating the same as all the particles around it.

And so it enters this weird quantum fluid state. And again Nobel Peace Prizes were awarded throughout the 19 hundreds for research into this specific phenomenon and it kind of just died off. Even the videos you can look up of it today mostly are like black and white, like no one’s doing it publicly in a lab anymore. Which suspicious but superfluid hypothesis suggests, and this is again scientists suggesting this not just weird UFO, people like me, that if there was an element that was naturally a superfluid, well, we would have absolutely no way to detect it.

It would be inside of our particles, it would be inside of our cells, it would be inside of our I would be inside of everything, it would be the fucking force or Qi or these things that have existed in occultism for centuries. Well, there’s this idea out there scantly in modern physics that there perhaps is this superfluid. The idea of B theory is that various scientists throughout human history have discovered how to influence this superfluid and have made various technologies from it.

And that a lot of the conspiracies we attribute to secret societies and things, the Arrow clubs, these secret schools of the Egyptian priests, a lot of that was to protect this very valuable knowledge. It was this hidden modal of physics alongside gravity and magnetism that is one of these essential invisible forces. And interestingly enough, there is a Russian scientist who died in 2001 who claimed to have built a UFO like craft based off of the hard shells of insects.

He was an entomologist and he wrote his real dude, real respected Russian scientist. He solved all kinds of alfalfa pest problems and he was really well versed in the migratory, he saved this migration of dung beetles, bunch of weird stuff. But he was like and also I built this UFO once using bug parts and I had to put it away because all this weird paranormal creepy shit happened.

And so I was willing to dismiss it at first because I was like okay, sure dude, Starship Troopers too, dude, yeah, I was like whatever, sure. But the list of paranormal shit he described happening was a mirror list to the psychedelic paranormal connection that I had written in my first book. Like he was talking about weird missing time and those time space elements and disappearing reappearing objects, phantom voices, like all kinds of paranormal stuff that lined up also with psychedelic experiences.

He was basically saying operating this craft and any location where you operate it frequently is inundated with a bunch of weird psychedelic paranormal side effects because of this effect in the quantum fluid. And he didn’t make that connection in his research. But there are several other scientists who came, one few before him, including a German guy who is connected to the infamous Nazi Bell project who claimed to have discovered a different thing studying the flow of rivers, but a similar concept.

And a couple modern people who have discovered similar things. One founded a company where they created a generator and they just disappeared. They demoed this generator twice. It worked completely without any plugins or whatever. It created a positive charge. Like you could power several high powered lights with it. It was completely freestanding, free energy device. And then after these demos, their company just vanished. No one knows where they’re at or whatever.

It’s next to all the Tesla papers right now. Well, Wilhelm Reich, again, was one of these dudes. Speaking of Tesla, everyone knows him as well. Stole all of his shit. But Wilhelm Reich was another dude, a contemporary of Young. He studied under Freud in the same class. I think what Young was top of the class. Reich was second. He went on to develop a lot about sexual theory that’s still used in organite, right? Yeah.

He’s more famous than the new AIDS community as the Oregon guy. But the ATF arrested him and took all of his devices, locked them up in storage, and they’ve never been seen again. So the Oregon Pyramids we get today are completely fucking that’s my number one CIA Psyop. They made that shit up because they don’t want anyone recreating the actual Oregon accumulators because they fucking worked. And he made cloudbusters out of those too, I think where they would point the Oregon at the sky and make it rain or the opposite shit.

You not Viktor Gorbinikov, the Russian Scientist. He built a bunch of craft off the know insect theory, and a bunch of the devices look exactly like the fucking cloud buster, and they would do the same shit. And this is a dude on the other side of the globe in Siberia who discovered it through bugs. Reich claimed to discover it through sex, which she was a horny dude, but an orgasm would have these medical effects.

And sitting in these shaped devices that could flow his organ energy certain ways would have these medical effects. Gerbinikov ended up using the same thing for what he called the cavity structure effect. And it was this special magnetic effect connected to his UFO device. But this is a known and understood scientific special electromagnetic field that specifically applies to insect nests, but anything that has a repeated cavity. So, like a bundle of straws.

Or the cloud Buster from Wilhelm Reich. Again, it’s a bunch of, like, PVC pipes bunched up and pointing in one direction. And the Strausberg, the dude in Germany connected to the Bell Project, there’s still an organization that continues his research to this day. And their main thing is medical devices. And they’re like the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation I know about. Like, at the start of their website, there’s like a huge disclaimer saying, legally, we’re not saying this can be used instead of a vaccine, but this can definitely be used instead of a vaccine.

Like QTIP. Don’t put this in your ear. Use our weird German superfluid technology. It will cure you. It’s very suspect. It is weird, but all of these scientists say that this device, their new modem of physics, has this medical application. And there’s, interestingly enough, a lot of modern research, specifically into CSE, that says that the medical applications of it prove superfluid because there’s no way that it would be magnetism.

There’s no way that it would be like holding a wasp nest, shouldn’t vibrate your insides, but it does, is what they’re saying, basically. And so it supports this idea of a super fluid hypothesis. And I think perhaps very similar to the Manhattan Project in the early 19 hundreds, where everyone it was a secret, but everyone knew we were building an atomic weapon because all of the atomic scientists went missing.

You know what I mean? Suddenly you couldn’t go to a university and take atomic science because that dude was fucking working on the project. And it seems that something similar has happened with these superfluid researchers that they’re just fucking gone. Like anytime they make any kind of big breakthrough, there’s this weird radio silence afterwards. And at the same time, the government there’s a massive increase in these craft all over the globe.

And the government’s saying, oh, yeah, no, it’s aliens. Sure, it’s aliens, just like those gorillas that flew those fighter jets. And so I do I think while there is a paranormal UFO experience, that a lot of the current UFOs out there are craft designed and piloted by people that cause a bunch of weird psychedelic side effects just by being in their vicinity, which is why they’re unlikely to cop to it, because lawsuits I love this.

I think this is a good place to wrap up a little bit here. I want to give you a chance to tell people where to find you again. Is there a name for the book that you’ve been throwing around? You don’t got to commit to it. I’m just curious. What the name? Right now, it’s still going to be B theory and then some kind of clever subtitle. But if you’re waiting in anticipation, you can check out my other two books, a Place Between Time and Space, which is about the Betts case here in Florida.

A haunted house with a UFO inside of it. It’s the weirdest fucking story, and it’s the weirdest home, certainly in this part of the world. I’m going to give it that big because it’s fucking bizarre. And I went in there and investigated this abandoned structure. It’s north of Jacksonville. I’ll give you the deets. It’s this local urban legend, and it is one of the bizarrest homes I’ve ever seen again.

I go to a bunch of places, and most of them are like meh. This one has that. It’s something strange, literally built on a Native American fucking shell midden. It’s all the stereotypes. And then in the 70s, there was a metal sphere that the family found and it moved around on its own inside the house. It’s just this window into high strangeness. And then my first book, paranormal Expeditions hunt for the Friendship.

That was a case I did in Chile, in South America, where I did a bunch of weird psychedelic experiments and went down to Patagonia to try to find this supposed group of extraterrestrials. I found some Nazis and some weird stories instead. Some remnants, ancestors, I would say. I won’t paint them as current Nazis, but some suspicious shit was definitely going down. But yeah, check out all that stuff.

You can find links to all of that@chazofthedad. com. And you can find me at chazofthedead on all the social medias. And be sure to check out Paranormality Magazine as well, where you can find articles not only for myself, but all kinds of creators from the paranormal world. Ghost hunters, bigfoot hunters, Ufologists, oopologists, I don’t know what they want to be called anymore. Whatever it is, though, that you can get your paranormal, itch scratched over there.

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