Paranoid American Podcast 044: PATCON w/ The Underclass Podcast

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➡ The text discusses a book that introduced the author to the concept of Patcon, a covert FBI operation that infiltrated and incited violence in right-wing extremist groups. The author also criticizes intelligence agencies, suggesting they support violent and destructive black markets. The text further explores the idea that these agencies create fake extremist groups and manipulate individuals into committing crimes. Lastly, the author mentions Terrence Yaki, a first responder at the Oklahoma City bombing, suggesting his story deserves more attention.
➡ The text talks about Terrence Yake, a police officer who was a hero during the Oklahoma City bombing. He saved many people but was uncomfortable with the praise he received. He believed there was a cover-up involving the government and the bombing, and he felt pressured to stay quiet about it. He wrote a letter to a friend expressing his concerns and his fear that his job was in danger because he was asking too many questions.
➡ A police officer named Terrence Yeki was deeply troubled by inconsistencies he noticed in the aftermath of a bombing. He felt that some officers were hiding the truth and falsifying reports. He tried to uncover the truth, but this led to his mysterious death, which was ruled as a suicide despite suspicious circumstances. His car was found in a strange condition, as if someone had been searching for something inside it.
➡ Terry, a man involved in the Oklahoma City bombing investigation, was upset about something he saw at the daycare center on the day of the bombing. He wanted to take pictures of it, but wasn’t allowed back on the site. He was reportedly being followed by federal agents and received threatening phone calls. Before his death, he gave a VHS tape to his ex-wife, Tanya, and told her not to watch it. After his death, the tape was stolen from Tanya’s house. The tape was suspected to contain evidence of a cover-up by federal agents.
➡ This text discusses the Oklahoma federal building bombing, suggesting that the damage couldn’t have been caused by a truck bomb alone, but would have needed additional explosives inside the building. It also talks about a man named Randy Weaver, who was accused of being part of a white supremacist group and selling illegal firearms, but the text suggests these accusations were false. The text also mentions a series of controversial incidents, including Waco and Ruby Ridge, which made the author question what they thought they knew. Lastly, it discusses the difficulty of getting people who aren’t part of a specific group to care about injustices faced by that group.
➡ The text discusses a group that believes in the Christian Identity Movement, which includes beliefs such as the true descendants of Israel are modern Europeans and today’s Jews are impostors. The group is described as white separatists, not supremacists, meaning they prefer to live separately from other races rather than subjugating them. The text also criticizes the FBI and ATF for their handling of situations involving these groups, suggesting that they often escalate situations and fail to root out real threats. Lastly, the text argues that society has been subconsciously indoctrinated into a collectivist mindset, which the author believes is harmful.
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That’s homeboy right here. And I was just telling Austin that the first time I just saw Sam post that they had an episode together. And in the description, it just had the word patcon. And my immediately just jumped to my email and sent Austin an email was like, when can I get you on? I want to talk about this. So first of all, we’ll get into that. Welcome to the show, Austin.

Let people know who the hell you are, where the hell to find you, what the hell you’re all about. All right, brother, I just have to first say thank you for bringing me on, man. It really means a lot. I followed your work for a while. I saw you had Gordo from those conspiracy guys on, and I love him. I’ve loved his podcast for forever. I saw you had Monica on as well.

And I love Monica Perez. She’s great, man. I love the way that she kind of represents more of this open minded, ancap style of philosophy and approach towards a lot of the work that she does. And I just appreciate her perspective in general. It’s fun to listen to. And she brings receipts, dude. She comes ready. Yeah, most definitely. But she comes correct, for sure. But I love Brad Binkley, too.

When they were doing the propaganda report together, that’s when I found them, and I’ve always enjoyed that. But, yeah, Sam, dude, I absolutely love him so much, and I can’t thank him enough for bringing me on tin foil. But honestly, I just saw him at one point, he had tweeted about Ruby Ridge as if he didn’t know the whole story on it. And I thought what a perfect opportunity it would be, because I think I only started my podcast called the Underclass podcast in April of this year.

And pretty much I’ve spent, like ten years in this truther community, I guess you could call it. But basically, I was completely delusional because of my experience in the public school system and then my attachment to Hollywood. I was very just misinformed and completely seduced by cultural Marxism subconsciously, without knowing it. And I think that’s honestly a huge part of the public schooling, you know, the prussian model and everything.

And I talked about that briefly on Sam’s show because it truly is what sets us all, and I think generationally we have a real problem right now, like the four stages of ideological subversion from Yuri Besmonov, when he talked to G. Edward Griffin, I think it was, and he was like a KGB defector. And he basically laid out how the public schooling system in America and the education system, it’s basically based on this system called outcome based education, and it’s intended to thwart our cultural sense of morality in every facet of life, almost.

And it truly is cultural Marxism stemming all the way from the Frankfurt school and the Tavistock Institute. And when I read the committee of 300, which, by the way, today, I listened to your podcast with Monica, and I was like, what are the odds that she brings that up and that you guys talked about that? And then you talked about OKC for a second, and that’s like I was going to cover at least a crucial part of OKC that I think plays a huge role in this insane story that I truly believe is Pat Con.

We all know COintel pro right. I mean, at least we should, right? Like the feds infiltrating these leftist groups in the basically and like the Black Panthers and all of this. And I really do believe that Pat Con just a rebranding of that to target the christian identity movement, the right wing first and Second Amendment. It’s honestly a way to demonize that entire ideological isle of the culture divide, which I also believe is completely manufactured.

And I’ll get into that as well. But I kind of believe the culture war is a psychological operation in general, because really we’re dealing with a class war. I mean, this is class warfare, I would say in most cases, because think about the elites, how our society is structured. None of their children go to public school, to the government schooling system as far as the propaganda prisons that we all seem to be overexposed to as children.

And that’s not a free, they didn’t use public anything, anything. Public restrooms, public eateries, public schools. None of it is public. They don’t do any of that stuff. Libraries. They don’t go to public libraries. Absolutely not. No. And on top of that, it seems like it’s hilarious because they all live behind gated communities with all this private security, you know what I mean? And they don’t seem to have to live in the same paradigm that the rest of us endure on a daily basis.

And so I just think that after I was exposed to all these alternative narratives that made so much more sense, that seemed to fill in all the holes that seem to actually give me some, and like I said, make sense of the paradigm that I find myself in. I feel like the world we live in is really truly the upside down world where, like Ron Paul says, where truth is treason and war is have, I would say I definitely have trust issues at this point.

A good example would be like, I think, like Derek Bros did this great job. We don’t have any journalism like this anymore, where they actually are on the beat and trying to catch people in the moment and ask them a question where they’re caught off guard. And there was this moment where he caught Tulsi at Gabbard unaware after a campaign event, some speech she had given. I can’t remember exactly what the context was, but he caught her when she was walking with her security to her car and she briefly entertained him.

And he did kind of throw a softball to hopefully get a moment. And then through the process, he pretty much tries to pin her down on the fact that she was found listed on the World Economic Forum’s future global leaders list. Right. And I thought her natural instinctual reaction to that was very revealing, at least in my opinion. That was my interpretation, because she was pretty aggressively kind of hostile to Derek for asking that question.

And I already thought that she was morally corrupt on a lot of different things. I thought that she was a little bit of a psyop in general as well. Just know these people. They’ll come out and they’ll be good on certain things, almost as like a tactic of seduction to try and woo us in to entertaining the idea that this system isn’t entirely designed to have some sort of dirt on every person that’s allowed to participate in the game.

Right. And I think that goes for Vivek as well, no matter how much I appreciate some of the things that he. Like, for example, what he said yesterday. I think it was yesterday, but recently on CNN when they literally wouldn’t let him speak. But he was talking about how the feds were involved in January 6 and how they ran an entrapment operation, which was the Gretchen Whitmer hoax of the Michigan governor being kidnapped or whatever.

And I mean, even three of those guys were acquitted, right, like he said. And I just thought it was insane that the way that they were stepping, they would not let him speak on this. But I don’t really see that. To me, it almost makes me feel like there’s always some type of strategy at play to bring into the fold these fringe ideologies, including the truth ers, right.

Which I don’t know your perspective on QAnon. And I thought from day one it felt like a psyop to me. But at the same time, that doesn’t mean that there’s no value at all or whatever. But it did really feel like, how can we bring in this huge sect of individuals who don’t participate in the system, who are basically unplugged and they can’t stomach this in its current environment.

So here, let us give them an element of what they so desperately want. Right. To, like I said, seduce them into believing that there’s some hope left in saving the current system. Right? And I hate to be so negative, and it does sound negative because it does feel like what I’m saying is that there’s no hope. But honestly, I just think that we have to be very careful with who we put faith into.

I don’t even believe in democracy as a structured system of government because it’s clearly just like the tyranny of the majority, and I don’t really trust the majority. And so as an individual, and I do believe that the cultural Marxism aspect of all of this really has a massive effect and implication on why so many people are subconsciously playing into the collectivist nature that we’re all basically preconditioned to embrace, right? We are supposed to.

And the public schooling system, like I keep mentioning, I really do think it’s intended to break the individual down and force us into this collectivist nature. Because individually we have to be responsible for our own actions, right? There’s no one else to blame. You know what I mean? And I think that morally, it’s the only way to approach society philosophically. But I digress. Honestly, I get off on tangents on the prussian model of the public schooling system because it’s really designed to break us.

Break us of our individuality, break us of that sense of liberty and prosperity that we should all just subconsciously desire naturally, right? And I think we do. But I think there’s so many levels of trying to root that out of us, root out those beautiful natural instincts that most of us, I think, have. I mean, I at the very least, I always felt instinctually I had an issue with authority, and I always have.

And so it was very difficult when I was going through school because the biggest issue I had was when things didn’t make sense, I would need it to be explained. So typically that didn’t go well, right in that. But, and I love how, like, Michael Malice, he wrote the anarchist handbook, and he’s done a lot of decent work in the anarcho capitalist community and stuff. But he basically kind of puts it like, the only time that we ever are in an environment where we’re faced with violence.

And consider how you went to public school, right? Yeah. How often were there fights? I understand we should be able to exist around each other as children as well. But you know what I’m saying, right? Like, they are propaganda prisons to indoctrinate us into the current system in almost every aspect of life. You know what I mean? I mean, I’d go a step further and say it’s like a pavlovian mind control tool where they are quite literally compartmentalizing your thinking process so that you separate the concept of art from the concept of math from the concept of science, and you’re never taught them in unison, ever.

It’s almost like art and music have nothing to do with math. Those are two different courses. And not only are they different courses, there is a literal bell that rings that tells your brain, okay, you’re no longer in art. Mode. You’re now in math mode, and you even walk your ass from one side of the building all the way to the other side of the building. So, yeah, I’d say it’s even a step further than propaganda.

It is literally making sure that your brain doesn’t know how to communicate with itself, because that’s what they’re there for. They’re there to tell you how your brain needs to communicate with itself. Right. Social engineering. Right? Like I said, once I read about the Tavistock Institute and the committee of 300 and Chatham House and all these different presidents that have basically been selected out of an elite few, and it’s all been done out of, like, the city of London.

You know much about Eustace Mullins, right? I know that he worked on some seminal work, especially, like, early days of conspiracy theories, even had, I think, a record about the illuminati, but. Yeah, go ahead. Well, all I’m saying is that I find it basically, he gives this amazing interview, and it’s a long format, but he explains this alternative version of history, right? And he basically explains how the Rothschild family and other elite families and elite, like the committee of 300 that I mentioned, they all helped finance the american revolution, they helped finance the civil war.

And he goes into excruciating detail. It’s very interesting and even lists, like, the companies and the different groups. But it really did force me to reevaluate and reflect on everything that I thought I once knew. Right. And I think that we all have to basically do that. We have to go back. And this is why it’s so difficult, I think, because you have to. How many people want to admit that they’re wrong in general in the first place, let alone go to the extreme of completely restructuring the way that we even approach our perception of reality.

And so what benefit? Like, you don’t get an extra zero at the end of your paycheck. You don’t run faster, you don’t sleep better. There’s no real benefit to it, you know? Can’t even relate to people in the same way, right? Because if someone wants to talk about the latest Taylor Swift album, you’re just like, have you heard of this attorney in Cube? Do you know about how we’re all under the rule of Jupiter, my brother? It’s so excruciating to see.

And it’s funny, because I’ve tried to find something. After going through all of this, I’ve tried to find something that I can hold on to where I can just relax and let my brain just I almost need that after trying to get to the bottom of a lot of these false narratives. I need something that can allow me to just relax my brain and not use it, right? And so I use what I ran from, which were, like, organized sports and enjoying anything like that.

I ran from that originally because, oh, it’s the massive distraction that’s meant to keep us from. Now you’re in line for the, huh? Right. Yeah, exactly. Now I’m like, dude, just give me football and shut the fuck up about Taylor Swift, please. You know what mean, like. But no, it is hilarious how much mean once you’re aware of it, I guess you see it everywhere, right? And it reinforces everything.

It really does. But it’s just like the extent during COVID it really just overwhelmed all organized sports because they’re massive businesses that were on the take by all these big pharmaceutical companies. It was just kind of insane to see all these athletes claiming they’re getting the COVID shot, you know what I’m saying? On live television. And you’re just getting this guilt trip constantly. Right? And that’s a huge reason why I started my podcast.

Honestly, I just couldn’t take it anymore after that. And I had for a long time, wanted to just try and redirect the knowledge that I had acquired that convinced me that all these narratives were a whitewash, were a psyop, typically. And it’s crazy because it really was like. And it just went underground. I feel like after Oklahoma City, but especially when you have like, Janet Reno, Eric Holder, Merrick Garland, all the usual suspects that covered up Oklahoma City, right? I mean, they had the incentive, and Eric Holder specifically, he later on showed back up in the Obama administration to help cover it up again.

Then after a Pacon operative became a whistleblower and revealed all this information to Trinidad. And so Eric Holder makes a reappearance in the Obama State Department. Fast and furious. Yes, dude, exactly. He’s a gun guy. He knows guns, the ATF, gun walking. So he came back just for that cover up. And I have it in detail here in a little while. Honestly, I should probably get into this at some point.

But at the same time, I want to take baby steps for anyone that has no idea what Pat Khan is. And because there’s a lineage. So let me state my understanding of this because I’m a root from the outside looking in. And I mentioned that my main knowledge of Pat Con at all comes from this one book called aberration in the heartland of the real. The secret lives of Timothy McVeigh by wendy as painting.

And you can even see there’s proof that I got it a while ago and read this thing. And this book rocked my world for so many different reasons. And I’ll put a comment for this thing down in the description, but this book was a. It introduced me to the concept of Patcon, which I had never heard of before, but it also provided this little key shaped missing puzzle piece that all of a sudden connected Patcon as this, the thing that’s growing outwards and turning into this Frankenstein’s monster.

But then Ruby Ridge, which leads to Waco, which leads to Oklahoma City, and then this kind of, in a long way leads to. There’s. There’s some steps in between that we’re skipping. And it feels like Qanon’s like the modern version of Pat Con, but just like the american gladiator Mountain Dew version of Pat Con, whereas the original patcon was like grandma’s good old home cooked Pat Con versus the Walmart branded Mountain Dew version.

So that’s my very crude way of describing it. But take me through what is like, why do we even care? How come I don’t know about already? If it was something I should care about, I would have heard about it now. Right. Right. To shine a light into this kind of, like, mentality that is behind Patcon. So during the congressional inquiry following the ATF siege of the Branch Davidian complex in Waco, Henry Ruth was one of the three independent reviewers from the US Treasury Department that testified that the ATF needed good publicity.

With its appropriations hearings a week away, a successful raid this size would produce major positive headlines to counter the ATF’s reputation as a rogue agency whose debacles blackened the reputations of other agencies. And it would scare the public just enough about fringe groups to create political pressure on Congress to increase its budget. Right. And I just thought, what a great lens into the way these agencies and these intelligence agencies, man, they need to be abolished.

I really believe they prop up the most violent, the most destructive. I do believe that, yeah, there are always individuals in some of these agencies that their heart’s in the right place. Some of them, they really mean well, but the intelligence agencies are really what prop up the most violent, destructive black markets that exist in all of global society. Right. Human trafficking, sex trafficking. I mean, I believe the CIA is behind the finders and the.

It’s when you know that that’s what government’s capable of and that. Yeah, I can’t paint with such a broad brush to where every individual in these agencies are responsible. And there are many who are completely diabolically opposed morally and become whistleblowers because they can’t stomach the reality. And that’s why we’re blessed with at least having some evidence that we can point to that can prove the depths, the moral depths that some of these sociopaths are capable of exploiting.

And then just that aspect of government, of compartmentalizing such despicable crimes, right, that people can still go to sleep okay at night, right? They can somehow justify it in their minds that it’s not them that are solely responsible. But I just find that crucial as a concept for I think a lot of people who don’t spend a lot of time in these just really abstract and dark crevices, you know what I mean, of society.

They aren’t quite aware of what’s possible. And I think that that’s very important because there’s a lot of concepts that I never even entertained until I was exposed to some of these lines of. So PATCON is an acronym for Patriot Conspiracy, right? And it was a covert FBI operation that didn’t just secretly infiltrate right wing domestic extremist groups. The real objective in PatCOn had been to cede infiltrators and to incite these fringe groups to violence.

They even created fake militia groups like the Veterans Aryan Movement, as well as running entrapment based sting operations like what happened to Randy at Ruby Ridge. Right? So the official narrative claims that PAtcom began in 1991, but would only last until July 15, 1993, six months after the disastrous siege of the branch davidian compound in Waco. And by the way, there’s this journalist right now who’s just doing amazing work on basically how Pat Con never ended and was driven underground after OKC, like I said.

And they still had all these different aryan groups, all these neo nazi groups. His name’s Ken Silva, by the way, there’s a new series, and I mentioned it a little later on as far as its relationship to Pat Khan, because there’s this series of articles on headline USA, I believe. Headline News USA, something like that. And it’s about how it’s called the Fed files, and it’s pretty much explaining and detailing how through these different lawsuits and FOIA requests, there are these aryan movements, these aryan groups, these neo nazi fascist groups, supposedly that basically there’s enough evidence to claim that they not only were infiltrated by all these feds, but they were founded by the FBI, right? And even beyond that, they founded counterprotesting groups and then would send them to places like in Charlotesville, where they would set up a powder keg type scenario with a majority of the people involved being federal informants.

And a lot of people were also implicated as federal agents, which is just pretty extraordinary in general, but it does make that. Showed up for rehearsal the first time. I think they’re the only ones that are allowed to do it for the real event. Exactly. And in the. They even, like. I think that the feds were even, like, picking up these civilians that they were taking to their destination.

They were like, not only did they come up with the plan that would not have ever been in the minds of these civilians in the first place, they were also giving them credit cards, picking them up, taking them to the different places they needed to go. I mean, talk about entrapment. It goes a little bit further than that, I would say. Well, this is even like every story that you read about the kid drug dealer that gets caught by the cops, and then you find out that he never wanted to and that he just wanted a friend.

And the one friend that he found happened to be an undercover cop. And then the undercover cop uses that fragile friendship with this at risk youth, and then is like, hey, go sell drugs if you want to keep being my friend. And now it’s like, sorry, mom, your kid’s a convict. What did you do? You raised this scumbag, and just, we’re going to lock them up. And there’s one aspect that really stood out to me, and in a comical way, because I work on comic books, so it’s like, I’ve got a very crude way of turning horrible tragedies into comedy sometimes, but it’s like there’s this certain point in Oklahoma City where they had Elohim City, and Elohim City is supposed to be the nefarious villain underground Cobra headquarters, where all the bad, racist and neo Nazis show up, and they learn how to make bombs, and they do all their drills, but there’s this very real feeling concept where if you were to show up and look around, it’s like 90% are FBI and ATF and DEA and just like, all these acronyms.

And there might be, like, one guy that there is a contractor that’s actually one of these extremists, but every single other person there is in some three letter Alphabet agency, but they don’t coordinate with each other because they’re all in competition with each other and their budgets. So then they’re each hyping each other up. So the FBI guy is convincing the CIA guy to build a bomb. And the CIA guy is like, well, yeah, only if you do a mass shooting.

And they keep upping each other until they grab that contractor in the back and they’re like, all right, you. And he’s like, what? I don’t even know what you guys were talking about. Just hold this button and hit the red button when I say so. And I’m oversimplifying it, but it’s almost like no one was going to do any of this horrible stuff except the Alphabet agencies. And then they build people up, they give them the resources, they get them there on time, which is probably over half of the things, right? Just showing up to the explosion at the right time because otherwise work.

And, oh, my mean, like, I think that I did come prepared to at least touch on Kenneth Trinidad and Terrence Yaki for a moment because I felt like it’s such a smoking gun for OKC. Well, let’s start on Terrence because he was the cop. That was a first responder, dude, a hero cop, at least in my opinion, like, legitimately. This guy should, and this is the one. Okay, it’s really quick tangent, I promise.

Go ahead. This is exactly why I do what I do with paranoid American and the comics I write and stuff, because I read this story about Terrence and I just immediately think, how come this guy doesn’t have the Terminator or the expendables? How come someone hasn’t converted this guy’s story into a freaking blockbuster? And then you’re like, oh, well, of course. Because he represents corruption and blackmail and the government sacrificing, right? If Terrence’s story became like the Will Smith blockbuster, everyone would be like, abolish the ATF.

Abolish the FBI. So of course it can’t. So anyways, that’s kind of the inspiration for what I do. Like, if anyone’s going to do the Terrence, is it Yeeki? Terrence Yake. Yeah, Terrence Yake. If anyone’s going to do like, him as a blockbuster movie or a comic or something, I feel like it would be paranoid American. I’ll stop toot my own horn. And I’m not even kidding. I’ve got a six issue script that’s been written for more than a couple years about Oklahoma City that goes into every little nook and cranny that we’re talking about here.

But it’s not an easy one to fund, man. There’s not a lot of people clamoring for the OKC retelling, but we’re going to get. Yeah. Tell us about Terrence Yaki a little bit. Okay. We’ll do. All right. So I believe that his story is basically the proof positive of the major cover up, the level of local law enforcement. And we need to condemn the leadership in the Oklahoma City Police Department for shielding the public from the truth in that case, while protecting the very federal government corruption, including state sponsored terrorism, which is basically what that story really know, the truth of that story.

And so officer Terrence Yake, like I said, his story, and like you said, it resonated with me above all others. I felt, well, okay, so he’s a hero cop, first officer on the scene only minutes after the bombing, courageously rushed into what was left of the Murrow building and spent over three and a half hours pulling victims from the rubble, ultimately being responsible for saving at least eight people.

And he would receive multiple awards for his heroic actions in the wake of the bombing, including being awarded the key to the city of El Reno, Oklahoma. But reportedly, he was reluctant to embrace the moniker of his. Apparently, he kept telling his ex wife, Tanya, who her name, I believe her maiden name is Tanya Rivera, so she says. And this was detailed in the Washington Weekly in April 21, 1997.

So this is what she says. He kept telling me it wasn’t what I thought it was that they were only choosing officers who were not even at the site, who didn’t see anything to take. Public rewards, recognition, that sort of stuff. They started pressuring them into taking the rewards. There came a time about mid year where they were forcing him into going to these award ceremonies, as in, yes, you could not go, but will make your life hell.

The story of this reluctant hero, she added, was nothing more than a real thin veil of truth which covered up a mountain of deceit. Terry wanted no part of it. She said his sister, Vicki Jones, agreed. And she said, terry hated that stuff. I’m no hero. He would say. Nobody that had anything to do with helping those people in that bombing are heroes. Why would the medal of valor recipient make such a bizarre sounding statement? Right.

Really consider that his personal letter, his untimely death, is probably the biggest smoking gun brother. Yeah, but in a letter he wrote to a bombing victim and friend named Ramona. Right. He tells her his reason for the reluctance to be honored as a hero in all these ceremonies. And he says, I hope that whatever you hear now and in the future will not change your opinions about myself or others with the Oklahoma City Police Department.

Although some of the things I’m about to tell you are very disturbing, I don’t know if you recall everything that happened that morning or not, so I’m not sure if you know what I’m referring to. The man that you and I were talking about in the pictures. I have made the mistake of asking too many questions as to his role in the bombing and was told to back off.

I was told by several officers he was an ATF agent who was overseeing the bombing plot, and at the time the photos were taken, he was calling in his report of what had just went down. I think my days as a police officer are numbered because of the way my supervisors are acting, and there is a lot of secrets floating around now about my mental state of mind.

I think they’re going to write me up because of my ex wife and a VPO. That’s a protective order, right? Which Tanya, she rescinded that order very quickly, and it was all basically just because they had separated and they were arguing. It wasn’t anything extreme at all. And Tanya’s. She’s spoken out since, and she’s pretty great on all of this by the, um. So this is still his letter to Ramona, his personal friend, and apparently a bombing victim.

So Terrence says, I told you about talking to Chaplain Poe. Well, the bastard wrote me up in a report stating I should be relieved of my duties. I made the mistake of thinking that a person’s conversation with the chaplain was private, which, by the way, might have cost me my job as a police officer. A friend at headquarters told me that Poe sent out letters to everyone in the department.

That bitch Joanne Randall I told you about is up to something, and I think it has something to do with Poe. If she gets her way, they will tar and feather me. I was told that Jack Poe has written up a report on every single officer that has been in to see him, including Gordon Martin and John Avery. Knowing what I know now and understanding fully just what went down that morning makes me ashamed to wear a badge.

From Oklahoma City’s police department. I took an oath to uphold the law and to enforce the law to the best of my ability. This is something I cannot honestly do and hold my head up proud any longer if I keep my silence as I am ordered to do. There are several others out there who was what we saw, and even some who saw what we saw. There are several others out there who saw what we saw, and even some who played a role in what happened that day.

My guess is, and this is after two pages were missing, by the way, in this letter. My guess is the more time an officer has to think about the screw up the more he is going to question what happened. Can you imagine what would be coming down now if that had been our officers who had let this happen? Because it was the feds that did this and not the locals is the reason.

It’s okay. You were right all along and I am truly sorry I doubted you and your motives about recording history. You should know that it is going to be one hell of a fight. Everyone was behind you until you started asking questions as I did, as to how so many federal agents arrived at the scene at the same time. Luke Franey, a BATF agent who claimed he was in the building, was not in the building at the time of the blast.

I know this for a fact. I saw him. I also saw full riot gear worn with rifles in hand. Why don’t make the mistake as I did and ask the wrong people. I worry about you and your young family because of some of the statements that have been made towards me, a police officer. Whatever you do, don’t confront McPherson with the bomb squad about what I told you.

His actions and defensiveness towards the bombing would make any normal person think he was defending himself as if he drove the damn truck up to the building himself. I’m not worried for myself, but for you and your group. I would not be afraid to say at this time that you and your family could be harmed. If you get any closer to the truth at this time, I think for your well being, it is best for you to distance yourself and others from those of us who have stirred up too many questions about the altering and falsifying of the federal investigations reports.

I truly believe there are other officers like me out there who would not settle for anything but the truth. It is just a matter of finding them. The only true problem as I see it, is who do we turn to then? It is vital that people like you, Eddie Smith and others keep asking questions and demanding answers for the actions of our federal government and law enforcement agencies that knew beforehand and participated in the COVID up.

The sad truth of the matter is that they have so many police officers convinced that by covering up the truth about the operation gone wrong that they are actually doing our citizens a favor. What I want to know is how many other operations have they had that blew up in their faces? Makes you stop and take another look at Waco. I would consider it to be an insult to my profession as a police officer and to the citizens of Oklahoma for any of the city, state or federal agents that stood by and let this happen.

To be recognized as anything other than their part in participation in letting this happen. For those who ran from the scene to change their attire, to hide the fact that they were there should be judged as cowards. If our history books and records are ever truly corrected about that day, it will show this and maybe even some lame excuse as to why it happened. But I truly don’t believe it will.

From what I now know to be the truth, even if I tried to explain it to you the way it was explained to me and the ridiculous reason for having our own police departments falsify reports to their fellow officers, to the citizens of the city, and to our country, you would understand why I feel the way I do about all of this. I believe that a lot of the problems the officers are having right now are because some of them know what really happened and can’t deal with it.

And others, like myself, made the mistake of trusting the one person who we were supposed to be able to turn to, only to be stabbed in the back. I’m sad to say that I believe my days as a police officer are numbered because of all of this. And that was his letter to Ramona, and it wasn’t just his career, but he ultimately. Yeah. So finish this off, right? So, shortly after the bombing, Yeki appeared at his ex wife’s, Tanya’s, about two weeks before his death.

He’d come into my home at strange times, said Tanya, 230 in the morning, four in the morning, unannounced, trying to give me life insurance policies. He kept telling me we needed to get remarried immediately or me and the girls would not be taken care of. I mean, why would a guy tell you to take a life insurance policy knowing damn well it wouldn’t pay for a suicide? He obviously knew he was in danger.

Yet Officer Terrence Yeki was not the type of person to easily show his feelings, and he didn’t want to tell his family anything that might get them hurt, apparently. I guess she tried. She begged him. One night. She tells this story that he came in one night right before his death, and he almost told her. This is like how she describes it. I felt this before in my life, where, like, you’re so desperate you want to tell somebody, but the consequences were never what the consequences were for Terrence, but either way, what an amazing person.

Because he didn’t tell her. You know what I mean? And I think it was basically because he felt that it would lead to her potential demise. Who knows? But I’m speculating. But he did supposedly go to her house, like, she said super early in the morning, one of the last nights that she ever saw him. And he sat down on the couch with her, and she said more than three or four times.

He almost told her. And then he just couldn’t do it. And he just sobbed and then left. And I was just. Was. This whole thing with Terrence was really tough for me. Kenneth is bad, know, because it pulls in, Jesse. But thank God it did. It felt like a twist of, like, the universe. They gave us something. They gave us a win out of this. And it’s dark as hell, and someone had to be sacrificed for us to get a window of truth into this case.

But, man, Terrence Yeggis, in my opinion, it’s really interesting because this was not a white nationalist extremist. This is a black police officer, right? Like a community police officer. Oklahoma City. And he looks at it from the completely other, like, okay, yeah, I was here. I don’t really feel like I’m a hero. Oh, wait, but why are they giving Sergeant Bob a medal? He wasn’t even on shift that day.

Why are these guys saying that the ATF was never there? And why is that ATF guy saying he was in the building? None of this is making sense. And I don’t understand why you’d even lie about any of this. Don’t you guys want to know what actually happened? And he starts picking at that thread, right? And they’re like, terrence, drop it. And he’s like, but I don’t get it.

Why is this this? And why is this this? And then eventually he realized, oh, crap, I’ve uncovered something, and now I’m going to die for it. And you know what? Actually, I’ll save it for just a second to tell you what I think right after we get to the end of the Yankee story. Because the way that they found his car, not only his body, right? Oh, my God.

They were looking for something, which, like I said, I’ll go into detail in a. So Tanya said that he told her just enough to let her know that it was not what they were making it out to be. That’s what she said. And that he was disgusted and didn’t want any part of it, but he never went into detail. And she said it scared me. That’s what she said.

And so on May eigth, 1996, three days before Sergeant Terrence Yankee was to receive the Oklahoma Police Department’s medal of valor, he was found dead in a field in El Reno, Oklahoma. A canadian county deputy sheriff named Mike Ramsay discovered Yaki’s abandoned car. It was filled with blood. He immediately called a homicide investigator and taped off the crime scene. Although the scene was technically in the jurisdiction of the El Reno Police Department, the Oklahoma city police chief would fly a helicopter down to El Reno and take control of the crime scene.

So already this is a little unusual. Right? What I also think is amazing is that the narrative around Terrence is still that he’s a know that he was a hero in this, and he was so upset by the things that he witnessed that he had to take his own life. Right. That’s the official narrative. Well, I thought the official story was that he was having some sort of a dispute with his ex wife.

Marital issue. Right. And that’s another reason why I’m glad you said that, because Tanya mentioned how she was called by someone who basically was trying to get her to reimplement and refile for the VPO the protective order. Almost as if. And this was right before she was notified about Terrence’s death. So it was almost as if they were trying to set up a plausible enough narrative for the public to be able to accept.

Look, he was clearly losing his mind and becoming aggressive because his wife, she refiled for a VPO, but she refused to do it. And there were false reports that she ended up doing it. And she tried to deny all of those to local news media and stuff like that, which I found interesting. And she got, like, a crazy, weird message on her voicemail as well that very night.

But anyway, let me quickly touch on how they found his body and his car, which this was his day off as well. Right? And he had told a friend he was trying to shake the feds. That was another thing that was unusual. So it wouldn’t be until several hours after the vehicle was found that police dogs located Yaki’s body in a ditch about a mile and a half away from the car.

With no firearm found. Both of his wrists had been slashed in numerous places, his throat had been cut from ear to ear, and he had reportedly lost about two pints of blood before getting out of his car, locking it, and proceeded to walk a mile and a half over rough terrain, crawling under a barbed wire fence, waiting through a culvert, and then laid down in a ditch, deciding that that was the right time to shoot himself in the head at a very uncomfortable angle for a self inflicted gunshot wound.

Right. He sucked at this dude. Yeah. So bad. D minus in killing yourself, right? It’s still a passing grade, but it’s like a D minus. Most definitely the Oklahoma City Police Department would suspiciously rule his death a suicide, despite not having a suicide note or a suicide weapon or grappling with the fact that he also had handcuff marks on his wrists as well as rope burns on his body, complete with grass in his wounds, indicating his body potentially being dragged to the final location.

And, of course, no autopsy would be performed on Terence Yeki’s body. And when his car was discovered locked up and filled with his own blood, it was also in very unusual condition. The seats had been completely unbolted, the floorboards had been ripped up, the side panels had been removed. And it looked very much as if whoever did that to the car was searching for something. The morning of the bombing, Terry was very upset, according to an article by Pat Shannon.

And this is pretty much a smoking gun, I felt, because what they say, and this is according to this report, the morning of the bombing, terry was very upset. He reportedly called his ex wife, crying and saying repeatedly, it’s not true. It’s not what they are saying. It didn’t happen that way. Now, in an interview with Tanya after his death, she revealed that Terry had been very upset by something he had seen under the daycare center on April 19.

He had wanted to go back and photograph it, but the officials would not let him onto the site again. The Oklahoma City bombing Investigation Committee speculates that what Terry saw may have coincided with the possible evidence of another unreported bombing device uncovered. Sergeant Yaki had told friends that he was going out of town to hide or secure evidence of a cover up of the bombing by federal agents.

And it was his day off, like I said. And he was traveling in his private automobile. So in his last known conversation, Terry reportedly told a friend that he was being followed by the feds and had to shake them. Previously, his household had been subjected to numerous threatening phone calls by persons unknown, threats which have not ceased even after his death. And they were slashing their tires, Tanya’s tires, too.

And they were, like, breaking into their house. And apparently, Terrence had even taken a VHS recording device, but it was one where he had two VHS recorders. So he was basically trying to copy a tape. Right? Copy a recording. And that’s at least what Tanya was saying. And so she said that right before he died, he came to her house and he had a VHS recorder with a tape in it.

And he begged her, he said, whatever you do, do not watch this tape, right. And he was trying to hide it there for some reason. And so she said, after his death, right. And his family also said this, that, like I said, he was in his private car. So his squad car, his police car had already been seized by authorities by this time before the family could even see anything in the car.

Anything. Right. And it was taken out of his driveway from his personal. So pretty much what they were saying is. And, well, I have to say that Tanya also mentioned that before he was even reported dead, her house had been broken into. And that very VHS recording device with the tape in it had been stolen. Was the only thing in her entire house that went missing. Right. That alone I just thought was.

Okay, that makes a lot of sense because the Oklahoma City police department was the only other department, other than the feds that had access to those tapes from the Murrow building. Right. And so they had access. It was in lockup at the OKCPD. And so allegedly, Terrence, he tried to copy that tape. Right. And I think he did. And I think that that’s what led to his death, because that’s why when he tried to go back to the scene later, he went at night with Tanya.

And when they went, some fed was there and he caught Terrence trying to get back in to take pictures of what he supposedly saw. And if you take into account all the evidence that shows that it wasn’t the Ryder truck that caused such significant damage to the Murrow building, it couldn’t have been, basically, is what they say. And that they say that all of the forensics analysis shows that there had to have been all these different structural pillars in the building that had been strategically set with, what’s it called? The putty in the wiring.

So. And there’s a lot of evidence that points to that happening with Andreas Strasmeyer being spotted there by one of the federal employees that worked at the Murrow building and that they had putty and wiring that looked like explosives and that they had been seen standing at one of the structural pillars and potentially rigging it up with that explosive device. So, pretty much, I think at least just a broad overview.

It seems like that whole building was meant to come down. And I have seen reports that the Whitewater scandal files were at least all the files, the CIA head or whatever agency it was, there was a select subcommittee that was investigating the Whitewater scandal at this time. And apparently all their documents had been housed, recently housed and moved to the. So that along with all these other reports of potentially this whole building was intended to come down.

That makes more sense to me. Right. And it also makes sense that when it didn’t actually go the way they planned. That’s why the feds came in and shut down the rescue operation, literally. And witnesses claimed this, that agents came in, called off the rescue operation only to seize the cameras that were still intact. Right. And so that seems a little interesting, especially since all the video evidence that could have strategically shown John Doe two.

Right. The Ryder truck pulling up to the Merle building, all of that. We’ve decided there was no John Doe two at this point. Right. I forgot. I’m sorry. And I wanted to point out, too, that this is the best way that I’ve seen it described. But the movie Armageddon, remember this from, like, 1998? Stephen Tyler and Liv Tyler was in it, and Ben Affleck. So the whole premise of Armageddon was that there’s an asteroid that’s heading towards Earth and that they’re going to try and destroy the asteroid, and that you can’t just shoot a missile at it, because if something explodes on the outside of this huge asteroid, the best you can hope to do is it kind of, like, pushes it a little way or maybe knocks a little chip off of the very edge of it.

But you’re not going to just destroy the asteroid from an explosion that happens on the surface. So what they have to do is they have to drill into the center. And, spoiler alert, for anyone that hasn’t seen Armageddon, it legitimately is a good movie, but they have to drill into the center of the asteroid and then put explosives inside the center of it so that when it explodes, it actually causes the asteroid to crumble and deteriorate.

And it’s kind of exactly what happens here, that if you drive a rider truck out to the outside of a building and it explodes on the outside of the building, at best it takes a couple of chunks out of the outside of the building. It maybe shifts it a little bit in the opposite direction. But what it doesn’t do, and this is a crazy conspiracy theory stuff that thinks all these coincidences were more than right.

But so the crazy conspiracy theory is that you can’t blow. It’s basically Armageddon that you can blow up a rider truck on the side of an asteroid and that’ll take the asteroid down, and that you don’t have to drive it into the center of the asteroid and put thermite up and then have that explode. And that’s essentially what Terrence Yaki, maybe he went inside the center of the asteroid, and he was like, oh, wait, there’s thermite in here.

There’s not a rider the another interesting aspect of this is there was like some high ranking general in the air force, retired, that was like a specialist in what structures? And in the exact same thought. And he got a buck up his ass over this and was like, wait a minute, none of this makes sense, and became almost like an advocate. Did he die? It seems like that would get you killed, right? You would think.

But I think he was so dismissed by one the state sponsored media. They just made him out to be a fringe conspiracy psychopath at this time. They just also happened to be a high ranking officer. But aside from all that, he was a crazy. I mean, his name, I have it right here, he was like a brigadier general or something. Bs. No, dude. He was a retired us air force brigadier general named Benton K.

Parton. And he served as the commander of the Air Force Armament Technology Laboratory and had a collective 25 years of design and testing experience handling explosives and ballistic weapons. So a freaking bump. Like an idiot bumpkin american gladiator watching knuckle drag. No reference, right? He’s not, dude. Stay in your lane. What did you say his specialty was in again? Armament Technology laboratory had a collective 25 years of design and testing experience handling explosives and ballistic weapons.

So he had no idea what the hell he was talking about. Stay in your lane, dude. Go back and talk about ballistics and whatever the hell you said. Nothing about rider trucks in there, nothing about daycare centers. This guy probably was never even in a daycare center a day. That’s great, man. So, like you said, though, he did become an advocate. He sent letters addressed to members of Congress and later even prepared an official report on the bombing of the Murrow federal building.

And it was dated July 30, 1995. And that’s when he submitted it to the US Congress, which made it a matter of congressional public record. And in that report, he destroys that narrative. And he says, when I first saw the picture of the truck bombs asymmetrical damage to the federal building in Oklahoma, my immediate reaction was that the pattern of damage would have been technically impossible without supplementary demolition charges at some of the reinforced concrete bases inside the building.

A standard demolition technique, right? And he says, for a simplistic blast truck bomb of the size and composition reported to be able to reach out on the order of 60ft and collapse a reinforced column base the size of column a seven is beyond credulity. The total incompatibility with a single truck bomb lies in the fact that either some columns collapsed that should not have collapsed, or some of the columns are still standing that should have collapsed and did not.

Reinforced concrete targets in large buildings are hard targets to blast. I know of no way possible to reproduce the apparent building damage through simply a truck bomb effort. If it is easy to determine whether a column was failed by contact demolition charges or by blast loading, such as a truck bomb. He didn’t say if it is. He said it is easy to determine. It is also easy to cover up crucial evidence, as was apparently done in Waco.

Right? Which, by the way, the front freaking door, which would have proven who shot first. Oh, it goes missing as well from evidence. Who is in charge of the evidence in these cases? Man, it seems to always go strategically missing when it could. There was this guy named Terrence Yake. No one’s seen him for a while. He took a personal. Oh, my God, man. It just kills. Was Ruby Ridge.

Waco and OKC were my red pill officially. That’s what really forced me to reexamine everything I thought was true. How many guns have you filed down today alone? That’s what. Like with Randy, it’s even crazier because he started the cut on the shotgun at the legal limit. And then the fed tells, no, no, I want it cut here. Shave it a little bit more, bud. No one will tell anyone about this.

Absolutely crazy. So here’s an open ended question. A little bit. How do I get a non, and I mean this to be a little bit incendiary, how do I get a non white, non racist person to give a shit about Randy Weaver? Because it almost seems like if you become sympathetic to weaver, or God help you if you become sympathetic to David Koresh and the branch Davidians, you yourself are already a nutcase, and you probably should have been burnt to death by Janet Reno personally, along with the rest of them.

Right? So how do I go and snatch somebody? Let’s go find a 13 year old black kid, and how do I make him care about Randy Weaver? And I know it’s almost an impossible task, and I need that to be inflammatory in a way, but it’s also a very honest question for sure. I think it really boils down to or a 14 year old asian girl. There’s nothing.

How do I find a non militia minded kid that already wants to shoot guns and move out into the woods? It’s definitely tough. But I think really the best way is to maybe even just read Sarah’s account, the 16 year old girl of what she told PBS. Because it’s like at that point, once you read her account, it pretty much becomes impossible to imagine that these people were impossible to deal with.

And that they couldn’t just de escalate by going up to the door and trying to have a conversation. Right. I mean, alone. The fact that when they tried to entrap Randy, this is so crazy. Because he was like when the feds first arrested him. He’s driving with his wife, Vicki, and apparently a couple of BATF agents. They tried to serve this warrant. And they say, this is eight months after the supposed sell of the shotguns to a BATF agent.

And a couple of BATF agents approached Weaver and asked him to serve as an informant within the area nations. They told him they didn’t have a warrant, but they did have incriminating conversations on tape. They threatened him with arrest and confiscation of his truck or house if he didn’t cooperate. And Randy replied, fuck off. In December 1990, Randy was indicted for manufacturing, possessing and selling illegal firearms. And the difference between legal and illegal in this case was about a quarter of an inch per barrel and $200 tax stamp.

So this is the part that is so crazy that I think anybody would have a problem with, because it implicates character alone of Randy and Vicky. And on January 17, 1991. No, I’m sorry. So it’s messed up. They posed as a couple, these BATF agents. And it was January 17, 1991. Two of these agents posed as a couple having engine trouble with a pickup truck hauling a camper stopped on the one lane bridge leading to the Weaver property.

Randy and Vicky stop to help. Right. They get out. Hey, you need any help, man? What can we do for you? I just thought that alone was. Oh, yeah. They’re terrible people. You shouldn’t even be able to have a conversation with them. They must be tunneling their property with an arsenal, ready to attack. And I think also a lot of it has been the claim that he’s a white separatist.

Right. And so that’s led a lot of people to just basically chop it up to he’s a. So it’s made it a lot easier for people to not care about Randy Weaver and Ruby Ridge. Right. Like you were saying. But once you get into it, into the evidence, you find out they weren’t acting out against racial minorities in any. Not as far as any of the evidence that I found.

That’s not how they were behaving. All they wanted was to be left alone. It sounds like he gave it a shot. Like he went to a couple. Kind of like Timothy McDonald’s out. He dipped his toe in. But then was, ah, this might not be for me after all. Right. Well, it turns out that when he went there to that one, it was an Elohim city type situation where it was like this.

They claim it was an aryan meeting, right? Is what they claim. And apparently what had happened was that Randy was friends with this guy that had gone to this meeting. And so apparently he had only gone to one of them, which I thought was interesting, right? And he never went back. And that was the one meeting he was introduced to a fed. Now, it’s possible that he maybe went to other meetings.

And I’m just talking about the one that was at this specific compound. But from what I saw, it looks like his first and only appearance at this meeting was. So on February 20, eigth 85, Randy and Vicky. Well, it’s hard to tell this, because pretty much all of this came onto the radar of the feds whenever he had, like, this pissed off neighbor named Kennyson, who they had gotten into legal dispute over property boundaries.

And Kennyson got pissed off and sent all these letters, threatening letters to all these different. Like, even the president, claiming that Randy wanted to assassinate the pope and President Reagan was a part of those letters. It’s such a crazy story. Like, he wrote the FBI, kennyson did. Terry Kenison was his name, and it was over a $3,000 land deal. And so he apparently lost the ensuing lawsuit to Randy and was ordered to pay Weaver an additional $2,100 in court costs and damages.

And so it pissed him off so bad that he writes letters to the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the secret service, and the county sheriff, in which he alleged that Weaver had threatened to kill Pope John Paul II, President Ronald Reagan, and Idaho governor John V. Evans. And this is what, like I said, officially brought Randy onto the FBI’s radar for the first time. And so in January 85 is when the FBI and the secret Service launched an investigation into allegations that Weaver had made threats against Reagan and other government and law enforcement officials.

And in those letters, this disgruntled neighbor, Terry Kenison, he also told the secret service that Weaver was a member of aryan nations and that he had a large weapons cache at his residence. So on February twelveth 85, two FBI agents, two secret service agents, the county sheriff and chief investigator, interviewed Vicky and Randy and accused him of being a member of aryan nations due to the fact that during their month long investigation, they had witnessed him associating with a man by the name of Frank Kumnick, who was known to associate with members of the aryan nations.

And so apparently, Weaver got pissed at the investigators when they asked him this question, and we’re implicating him as being this member of the aryan nations because of his association with Cumnik. And he aggressively denied it and said that he told investigators that neither he nor Cumnik were members of the aryan nations and described Cumnik as he specifically said this, that he was associated with the covenant, sword and arm of the Lord, outright denying any of the allegations, and the government filed no charges.

But I just thought it was weird because similar to Elohim City, but not exactly the same because, yeah, I mean, I get it. It looks really bad. You’re going to a meeting at a compound where a bunch of aryan nations groups are attending, but it turns out. Have you had the donuts and coffee, though, at those places? Right. It’s like next level. They only use the purest ingredients.

Right. So they apparently were, like, staunch believers in christian identity movement. Right. And this had some off centered beliefs, you know what I mean? Most definitely. We’re talking Turner diaries area. Yeah. They did believe that they were basically white separatists. As far as I can tell. They weren’t white supremacists actively. They seemed to be white separatists. But I guess they also believed, as a part of this christian identity movement, and specifically, Vicki and Randy, that the true descendants of the tribes of Israel are the modern nationalites of Europe, that today’s jews are impostors, and that Yahweh has fierce punishment planned for sinful America and its babylonian occupational government.

So basically zionist occupied government scenario. Right? Zog. And I guess christian identity believers claim to live by old Testament laws to be the true heirs of Israel. And many or most are, like I said, separatists, which you can argue, know the difference. Unlike white supremacists, they simply say they want to live apart from the other races if they so choose, rather than persecuting or subjugating them. So again, I feel like at the very least, if there’s no evidence that they were actively committing violence, then I certainly won’t lump them into that category, which has most undoubtedly happened, which is why, like we said, it’s been so easily swept under the rug and never really in consideration as severe human rights violations.

But I think it also does something that was really of primary concern at the time for just the establishment in general, which was to demonize, to basically demonize the right wing christian philosophy ideology right in general, because it is very much First Amendment, Second Amendment prioritization. As far as most of the time, they do fall on that side of the political spectrum. Right. And so it seemed to me like another convenient way to demonize this ideology.

Right. Well, if you in any way embrace any of these beliefs, then you’re basically a Nazi. Right. And I think that that’s not very helpful. Not at all. As far as if you’re actually trying to root out real white supremacists and real Nazis who want to commit violence, I mean, that’s kind of not going to help. Right. You know what’s crazy, though, is that in the actually took being like, look, this guy’s actually been to an aryan meeting.

And then it was like, yeah, but I didn’t like it. I didn’t go back, but now it’s like, look, this guy liked this post two years ago. I mean, and now it’s the same accusation. Right, right. Didn’t take long, right. To escalate to that extreme. And I think that was a part of what I was kind of hinting at, was that this was this Ted Kaczynski like, really the origins of Patcon with Ruby Ridge, Waco and OKC.

This set into the minds of definitely the american public, right, that we have this terrifying prospect of a white supremacist problem and domestic terrorism is a real threat in our society. Right. And I don’t think that’s the case, man. I mean, it doesn’t seem that way. It seems like almost all of these groups are either founded by feds, who always seem to be the ones introducing the violent plots.

Right. And not just that, funding them and escalating them in every single way. We know this with the, they did the exact same thing with islamic terrorism, international terrorism. So it’s not far off to at least make that implication that this was a plausible narrative to manufacture and implement into the minds of the public to help fuel a culture war and a divide in this country that’s going to be very difficult to come back from.

Right. And I think that it’s possible the FBI or the ATF are good guys and they are fighting for what’s right, but they just really suck at their jobs and they keep letting the bad guys in and they get to the highest ranks because they never see it coming. I mean, I think that. I think that basically these agencies, yes, you have good intention agents, that individuals within these agencies, like I mentioned, that they’re morally sound, they mean well, their intentions are pure.

They want to truly and honestly investigate these crimes and try and keep them from happening. But I also believe that special interests rule the day. And in the end, the way that they are allowed and the way they function inherently is through compartmentalizing everything they do. And so they know which agents to put on what case, I’m sure, right. I think the leadership is always compromised almost because they only ever perpetuate and facilitate cover ups, from my experience.

Right. And so it seems like we’re relying on whistleblowers, we’re relying on a minority. Because you have, like I said, this collectivist team mentality. It’s like tribalism, right? Where it’s like, now they’re a BATF agent and that’s their team, right? And so on. Ruby Ridge, when the US marshals lost one of their own and their own blood was introduced into the game, it caused a violent. Which, you know, say what you want about that, those people will typically have.

They typically react in that way. Right? And so for me, I just see it as you have so much of this where through breaking down that individualist and that individualism that I mentioned earlier. Now your ultimate priority is what’s best for the team. And so it’s no longer. They don’t view the average citizen as one of theirs, right? Not at all. And so at least all you have to do is point to what they said to a reporter at Waco, where legitimately one of the FBI agents told one of the reporters, and it perfectly exemplifies the mentality.

He said, 5000 to one, those are the ods against us. 5000 people to every one officer of the law. Do you know how we keep order with those ods? Because people believe we’re more powerful than we are. We project strength and the people believe in that strength. When we sit outside a place like this for weeks on end waiting for them to tire, we look weak in front of the rest of the world and every asshole with a bomb kit starts getting ideas.

This is more than a situation now. This is a symbol. Are we the kind of agency that coddles cop killers? Right? And I mean, 76 Branch Davidians were murdered that day alone, that final day, including 28 kids, right? Children. So that mentality justifying such blatant atrocities, honestly, human rights violations don’t even begin to explain what the hell happened at Waco. And so it’s hard for me. Of course, I’m not going to claim that every single individual within these agencies are to blame, but I don’t believe that they’re helping anything, in my opinion.

Right? I don’t. I think that these agencies should all be abolished. And like I said, I don’t even believe in democracy. I believe it’s tyranny. Of the majority. And I think we all need to reject the collectivist nature of cultural Marxism, right? It’s plaguing our society. Right? And people don’t realize that they’ve been indoctrinated into that belief subconsciously. It’s the structure of our system, right? And so it really is, like Yuri Bezmanov said, the four stages of ideological subversion, because it’s affecting us on every side of the aisle, doesn’t matter.

Know, even these conservatives, they look a lot more like communists. These. It’s like they don’t understand modern economics. They really don’t. It seems that way. It seems like they aren’t able to interpret the Federal Reserve central banking system and the creature from, you know, has completely destabilized our economic system to this boom bust cycle that we can’t recover from. And all we do is suffer from inflation, which is just another invisible tax on the dollar when we’ve been significantly pushed to such a degree more and more marxist, right? Like I said, the conservatives have subconsciously embraced Marxism and they don’t even know it.

It’s a sad state of affairs. I don’t think that if the ATF, if the FBI and the CIA are going to cover up pedophile rings, right, our show sponsor, by the way, today’s show is sponsored by pedophile Rings. Just tread, please. Then how the hell can we trust know they’re going to get to the bottom of anything? They’re covering up these crimes at the highest level. I’m not saying that.

Like I said, it’s not every agent in the FBI. No, but the leadership is consistently. I mean, we can just point, mean, I find it insane that RFK Jr. Right, he wrote that book on Anthony Fauci and I still think it’s very valuable. And I love a lot of what he did, at least bringing some attention to vaccines and autism. Also sponsored the show. Vaccines and autism. Both sponsored.

But it’s like, then I come to find out that one. He was in Epstein’s black book and on the flight logs, also a sponsor of the show. Did they set you up to just drop all the sponsors? No, but it’s absurd, right? Because apparently, let alone he’s been to the island, right? So his ex wife, apparently Richard Booth has reported on this recently. He’s a great journalist, but he’s done a lot of wonderful work on OKC, actually, specifically.

But anyway, he mentioned recently how RFK Jr’s ex wife basically discovered his perverted sex diary and then was found hanging, deemed a. And so after she crawled under a barbed wire fence. It’s eerily similar. I’m telling you, man, I just can’t understand how people don’t see patterns here. Right. Well, I want to ask you because I got another really quick segment to start wrapping up, but I want to figure out where you see patterns.

So I’ve got a segment that I’m just going to state something and you’re going to tell me zero to ten how much you agree with that statement. Right? So zero means you don’t agree, and ten means you do agree. Okay. Simple enough? Simple enough. All right, let’s rock this. Hey, conspiracy buffs, I double dare you to take some PTP, the paranormal conspiracy probe. On your marks, get set.

And go. Okay, these are specially tailored for this particular episode. So, zero to ten. Timothy McVeigh was sheep dipped. 1011. That’s agree, right? Yeah. Zero to ten. Vicky Weaver was shot on purpose and Randy was mocked over it. Eleven. They picked rabbit and dolphin noises at Waco for a specific reason. Ten. Yeah, I would say yes. Zero to ten. They knew the tank would set fire to the compound in Waco.

No doubt in my mind. 100 to ten. That shaving an extra quarter inch off the top of a gun makes it scarier. I disagree. Zero. Zero to ten. Timothy McVeigh was a racist. It’s possible. I guess it’s possible. So, five. Five. Yeah, I’m not certain on that one, but it is possible. Zero to ten. That jolly west was in the same room as Timothy McVeigh at some point.

Oh, I know that one. Yeah, definitely. Zero to ten. I’m sorry, but he seems to give a lot of different psychological. What’s it called? Where they give them the profiling? Yeah, exactly. He profiled out all of these guys, Jack Ruby, right after he met with him. Right. It’s a coincidence. You keep focusing on coincidences. I’m sorry. Okay, go ahead. Zero to ten. QAnon is a modern day version of patcon.

It’s similar. I see it more as a psyop, because I still think Patcon is happening. And before we end, let me tell you why. But that’s it. Go ahead. Ten. Wait. Okay. Zero to ten. Koresh was opening the seven seals. Well, that’s crazy. I mean, it’s possible, man. I certainly want to know what the hell it was, that’s for sure. Zero to ten. That somebody could open the seven seals.

I don’t know. It sounds amazing, and it intrigues me. I’m at least intrigued enough to. I want to look more into what exactly that even means? And as long as I listen to Koresh, if you can minimize him having sexual relations with a little bit, two young children, obviously, as you do. I mean, what are you even running a sex cult for if that’s not part of the deal? Other than that.

I’m telling you, he had a way with words. He almost puts you in a trance. He cucked every man he came across. He was just like your daughter and your wife. They’re mine now. And they would just be like, yes. Crazy. How can I debate with an argument so strong? Yes. And it was all different. Like, honey, have you heard this guy’s opening the seven ceilings? Get on your knees.

That’s so great. I mean, not at all. And then zero to ten, there’s a basement under convent ping pong. Oh, yeah. Well, here’s what’s interesting on that, is that the basement is for sure that cooler room that they showed, that refrigerated room. Hey, sir, I said a basement. You’re not allowed to bring wine cellars or coolers into this. I think there was man ten. Well, you were wrong.

It was actually a wine cellar, and a wine cellar is not a basement. So check me. You said that you wanted to say something about QAnon and Pacon. I assume it’s going to just be your unbridled support of the entire QAnon movement and that you stand for a second. January 6. Go ahead. Right. Where are people meeting up to? Saw off their shotguns with. What is it? Austin Picard? Pic ard.

Everyone’s going to show up outside the White House. On what day are we still doing January 6? Are we doing the 7th? Oh, you’re killing me, brother. No, sorry. What are you going to say, though, about the QAnon and the connection? Okay, so, Patcon, I found this to be very. Just almost like a smoking gun, honestly, because Larry Potts was supposed to be the guy who. So Pacon was directly overseen by Larry Potts, and he was the assistant FBI director who was later responsible for supervising the Ruby Ridge operation from FBI headquarters, which led to accusations that Potts approved the order saying FBI agents can and should shoot, effectively changing the standard rules of engagement, which was the real story behind Ruby Ridge, because Pacon operatives were even embedded in the FBI SWAT team.

But we also need to remember the signed deposition given by convicted co conspirator Terry Nichols, connecting a recurring character in these unnecessary tragedies occurring all throughout the 90s. He wrote in his deposition that McVeigh was extremely upset and angry there in what I believe was an accidental slip of the tongue. McVeigh revealed the identity of a high ranking FBI official who was apparently directing McVeigh in the bomb plot.

The name McVeigh let slip was Larry Potts, lead FBI agent at Ruby Ridge. McVeigh said he believed Potts was manipulating him and forcing him to go off script, which I understood meant to change the target of the bombing, Nichols said. That was the only time that I ever heard McVeigh refer to Larry Potts. Larry Potts did not only supervise the Waco massacre and the siege at Ruby Ridge, he has also been implicated in directly supervising the FBI’s Patcon operation.

And almost immediately after the 95 bombing, he was conveniently promoted to deputy director of the FBI. So Utah attorney Jesse Trinidad that we keep mentioning that his brother Kenneth was suicided. Jesse gave an interview with Scott Horton, which I love, to death. He doesn’t believe in the new world order, but he’s so good on all the anti war stuff that we need him to fight against the wars anyway.

But he interviewed Jesse in 2011 and they still have it on the wayback machine, I think@descentradio. com. Is where it was. But anyway, that’s when Jesse really outed Pat con by saying, well, he really outed him through his lawsuits and FOIA requests. But he says, as I pursued this over the last 16 years and lots of lawsuits and fights with the FBI, who, by the way, tried to indict him two separate times for his probing into the case on obstruction charges.

Right. But he covered his ass to the nth degree and they never could come through or follow through with those charges. But it basically shows that the FBI and the Department of Justice can do whatever the hell they want with no, he’s, Jesse claimed in this interview that I stumbled across an operation that the FBI called Patcon. Patcon. And the FBI began to distance itself from Patcon when I was probing.

And they said it was just a simple operation where they were going to infiltrate some militia folks in Alabama who had stolen some night vision goggles from a military base and were selling them. But it was clear to me that Patcon was bigger than that. Much, much bigger. And there were Patcon operations going on all over the country. They referred to them as Patcon group one, Patcon group two, Patcon group three.

Apparently it went on throughout the 90s because here last summer I received a phone call. So this is in 2010 from a fellow who said that I’ve been seeing what’s been posted on the Internet from your FOIA lawsuits with the FBI. He said, you have all the pieces, but you just haven’t put them together. And I said, what do you mean? He said, well, you just don’t see the picture.

And so he came to see me and I directed him to Newsweek magazine and some other reporters. He had been one of the top undercover operatives for the FBI and Patcon for almost ten years. He had infiltrated some 23 groups. He started out believing it was the right thing. He wasn’t, you know, so many of these informants are people who are caught in the act of committing a crime and are forced to go undercover for the FBI.

He did it voluntarily because he thought these hate groups, what they described to him as hate groups, were dangerous. In hindsight. He said, looking back on it, he sees now that the agenda was to infiltrate and incite the militia movement, the right wing christian movement, to violence so that the Justice Department could crush them. He said that Ruby Ridge was a Patcon operation. He said that Waco was a Patcon operation.

He believed that Oklahoma City was, but he wasn’t involved in it. But he did say that other members of the Patcon group were involved in Oklahoma City. That’s crazy. There’s like, pacon one. What? Paccon. Are you part of Austin? Are you double digits? So we could keep going for a long time, but I need to go and feed my dogs. But I want to wrap this up on a light note.

What do you think is the silver lining from Oklahoma City bombing and the daycare being destroyed and babies dying? Where’s the silver lining, man? That’s hard. There’s always silver lining, isn’t there? I think the silver lining is that we have clear evidence and clear enough evidence to point to, in my opinion, that proves the COVID up taking place, right? The suicides of Terrence and like those, like I said with Kenneth, man, it’s so sad that that happened to their family, but that is the silver lining that Jesse was pulled sideways into the Oklahoma city bombing and had no intention of solving shit to do with it.

And because he loved his brother so much, because they were moral. They’re moral people, right? They seem to be principled people, right? They fucked with the wrong guy, man. Jesse is just so valuable. He’s literally spent the rest of it. I wish I had a brother like that. I don’t have a brother, but I’m just saying I wish I had a brother that loved me like that, right? Where you, some brothers, like, fart in your face and give you knuckle sandwiches and others avenge your death.

I’m sure a lot of that happened, but it really is the perfect. I feel like Ken would have been the one farting on Jesse. Yeah, I do, too. He was kind of like the little bit of a biker vibe to it, for real. But there’s this super brief HL Menken quote that I think it applies to people like us, at least, who are doing what we’re doing. And he said, the most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos.

Almost inevitably, he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, and intolerable. And so if he is romantic, he tries to change it. And even if he is not romantic personally, he is very apt to spread discontent among those who are. I just love it because that’s what I want, man. We need to at least ruffle some feathers and try and shake loose these prevailing narratives that seem to be so entrenched in the minds of the average person affected by the mainstream media apparatus, the culture war.

I think it’s bigger than that. I think this is like a spiritual battle, and we can come out implementing beautiful principles in our lives as individuals. And I just think that as long as we try and continually define them for ourselves in a pursuit to hopefully improve our own lives, maybe we can live in a world one day that’s not so dark. Maybe in a few thousand years.

Yeah, I know, I know. But I feel like at the very least, finding like minded people, it’s so worthwhile. It really is. Because this isolates and fractures families, if you let it, right? Nothing’s worth that, right. But we do have to maintain a sense of morality, a moral foundation we’re proud of. So I just really appreciate you having me on, brother. I really do, man. And I felt like I was all over the place on this one.

I had, like, six of my tabs up of notes, and I was just trying to go through each one. But you’re only going to get through, like an hour or so anyways, in no real order. But major shout out to Sam for even birthing you onto the scene for me to see and connect. Can’t. Thank you to Sam. Thank you to Austin. Thank you for the research that you’re doing and for making it accessible.

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