The Perfect Neighbor – Floridas Racist Stand-Your-Ground Laws

➡ The text discusses a Netflix film called “The Perfect Neighbor” which is about a woman named Susan who constantly calls the police on neighborhood kids playing near her rented property. The film portrays Susan as a “Karen,” a term used to describe a woman who is overly demanding or entitled. The text also criticizes the neighborhood for not managing the kids better and suggests that the situation could have been easily resolved. The film has been popular on social media, but the text suggests that it’s not particularly groundbreaking or revealing.
➡ Susan, a woman who often calls the police, doesn’t have video evidence to support her claims against her neighbors. The police suggest she gets a camera, but she doesn’t. The situation escalates when Susan shoots a neighbor who was banging on her door, claiming she feared for her life. However, the neighborhood disputes her version of events, leading to her arrest.
➡ The documentary discusses a woman named Karen who, annoyed by kids in her rented yard, allegedly planned to kill their mother out of anger, not fear. The film explores the complexities of ‘stand your ground’ and ‘castle doctrine’ laws, suggesting that Karen could have avoided jail if she had proven she was in fear for her life. The documentary also highlights the use of police body cameras and the tension in the neighborhood following the shooting. The film ends abruptly, introducing a racial angle and leaving viewers with questions about the case.
➡ The text discusses a complex neighborhood dispute involving a woman named Susan, who is seen as problematic by her neighbors. The situation escalates to the point where Susan is arrested, with the text suggesting that the police and state may have been influenced by public opinion. The text also highlights issues of parenting, with the suggestion that the children involved may have been influenced by their parents’ attitudes. The text concludes by questioning the legality and fairness of Susan’s arrest and the subsequent handling of her case.
➡ The text discusses a controversial neighborhood incident involving a woman who shot her neighbor. The author criticizes a documentary about the event, saying it was too long and didn’t clearly explain what happened. They also argue that the documentary was biased, portraying the shooter as a racist and the victim’s family as innocent, when both parties had hostilities towards each other. The author believes the situation was more complex, with both sides contributing to the tension, and criticizes the parents for not supervising their children properly.
➡ The speaker criticizes a documentary for its lack of evidence and perceived bias, suggesting it may be propaganda. They discuss a tragic event involving a neighbor conflict and suggest better communication could have prevented it. They also express concern about the potential dangers of living in certain neighborhoods and the importance of protecting children. The speaker ends by promoting a comic about a conspiracy theory involving Stanley Kubrick and the moon landings.

Why shouldn’t my kids roam free? Because you might have a crazy Karen neighbor that, like, shoots you or your kids. Under the docks. Yeah. Under the docks. Under the docks. Under the docks. Yeah. Under the docks. Under the docks. Introducing Mainstream Mondays with Paranoid American and Sean Criss. B, B, B. I was thinking we were going to get away without the vval Zelia, but it’s. It’s going to always be there, I guess. Yeah. You know, get a little bit of. It’s nice to write when you go into work or midday work where you’re just like, let me wake up.

Work sucks. Let’s listen. I got a quick spoiler alert for this one too. Hope I don’t give the whole entire premise away. This one’s called the Perfect Neighborhood. But I don’t think she’s actually the perfect neighbor. I think it’s like a sarcastic title or. I’m not really sure. It doesn’t pan out. It. I will say that this is not what I was expecting because, like, I thought it was, like, gonna be ID channel kind of stuff, like strictly. Oh, the perfect neighbor. That they were like, hey, man, this is my property line. Like, you know how, like.

And then they’re like, no, you’re digging too far the fence. Like, I’ve seen a couple of things. I’ve seen a couple of those seasons where. And. And watching that kind of stuff, it makes you think twice. Like, starting any beef with a neighbor because you’re stuck. You’re stuck living next to him for who knows how long so things can escalate. And I think we get a perfect example of that one through this. And so the film he’s talking about is the Perfect Neighbor, a 2025 Netflix film that recently dropped and been getting some buzz on the tick tocks and the socials.

Directed by. I’m gonna butcher this for sure. Get a gan bihara. All right, man, We. We’re gonna work on the bri. I’m gonna have to start getting like a. A pronunciation coach to help people out. They’re gonna be like, who is that? This film, it follows Neighbor, a neighborhood where there’s a Karen, allegedly, that is constantly complaining and calling the cops on all the neighborhood kids for playing by her yard. And allegedly she’s saying different things to them, like negatives, racist things and throwing their stuff and. Yeah, hard R. N word, I assume. Hard R. Yeah, yeah.

And they go. They delve into it. They actually question her about that. That’s a. Interesting part. But basically it follows body cam footage and witness testimonies of like, hey, this is how she was, and this is a plague that we had to deal with. And the perfect neighbor, as you alluded to, was not so perfect. And it’s. Honestly, it’s not even that clever of a title. Like, I was hoping that there would be some kind. Because it’s not even like, there’s a pretense that she acts perfect. Cops show up. You can already tell that everyone in this neighborhood is a.

Is the perfect neighbor. I don’t know. Maybe. Maybe it’s like, a really deep cut, and they’re talking about the mom that died. Maybe she was the perfect neighbor. I agree with you because I think that title was misleading. I thought, like, the neighbor was going to be one of those people that, like, the whole time, you know, like, hey, I’m a perfect neighbor. I’ll mow your lawn or do all this stuff. And then secretly they have, like, murder thousands of bodies in the basement. That’s what I thought I was getting coming into this. I had no.

No knowledge. I didn’t really research beforehand. So I was, like, kind of caught up. We just knew that this was popular, that the people were talking about this documentary for unknown reasons, and. Okay, I. I get that. Yeah. Lotting the course, this one’s kind of easy to plot. I mean, it’s the way they structure it out. It’s the neighbor, Susan, who is a white lady. Right. And the rest of the neighborhood is predominantly black. It looks like there’s a couple other, like, white ladies that are, like, ratchet as hell. Like, let me just say this right off the bat, and I don’t care.

People are gonna get upset. I hate those type of people. Those white ladies that are just, like, trashy. Like, they’re trashy, man. And they’re just like. Well, you know, I’m saying it’s just annoying. And so what I’m hearing already. Bias going in. Yeah. Bias going. As soon as I seen him, I was like, oh, hell no. And don’t get me wrong, the Susan lady is, well, annoying just as much to the same degree that to me, it’s all around parties, crappy trash. I would not want to live there. I would be like, I am absolutely not living in this neighborhood for all the reasons of all the people.

Basically, it follows Susan constantly calling the cops. The timeline of her when she first starts calling the cops on the kids who are playing football in the field next to her house. Now not even her house that she’s renting. Renting. And the property’s big, so she doesn’t own the whole. Like, even the landlord doesn’t own that full property. It’s actually partially owned by one of the other neighbors who doesn’t have a problem with the kids playing football there. She calls the cops. A sign is thrown. It was so funny to be, like, so dramatic. Of like.

Yeah, it almost hit me like, the lady Susan is way over the top. She’s a perfect example of what a. Karen is complaining on every little thing. She is over the top. I agree with that 100%. Like, I would not want to live by that lady whatsoever. She’s annoying. However, I. I heard a but coming this notion the film tries to paint that, oh, the neighbors are perfect. They’re just kids. And, like, what’s the big deal? Like, as a parent, I can see that they’re not watching these kids. These kids are running the streets doing whatever they want.

Because if this was the problem for me, I solved this problem instantly. Within the first 20 minutes, I was like, hey, kids, don’t go over there. I don’t care if it’s her yard or it’s not her yard. I want you nowhere near anywhere that any of thing that she owns. I’m not going to give her any reason. We’re just going to ignore her completely because we have to live by her. So that’s it. But what I saw was people almost antagonizing. Yes, she was over the top. Yes. Yes, she was complaining about stuff that shouldn’t be complained about, but nobody was doing anything.

And these kids are running the streets and running amok, bro. Not running the streets as gang members, but I’m talking about running the streets. Like, they’re like 5 and 7, right? Like, these are the ages. Looks like it’s 5 to, like, 13, because there’s some older kids there, too. And they’re like, oh, they’re playing football. And right across the way, instantly, when they’re talking to the cops, they’re like, they’re playing. Why aren’t they playing in the football between the other two houses? It’s like, you can solve this problem, but you’re refusing. You wanted someone to get shot.

That’s what I’m hearing already. Hey. Hey. I knew something was gonna happen. I was. It was lackluster as well. Like the. The. The. The way they got to the finale, and you’re like, whoa, this is pretty basic. Like, it’s like if you did a documentary on, like, hey, the guy got robbed at the liquor store. You know what I mean? It’s like, yeah, that happens. Quite often, like, this is not something that’s crazy, like, where I’m learning something new. But what I do find interesting about this is the film has this undertone of like, racist, racist bias.

And then the cops not having a racist bias. But when you see the cops interacting over there, which I know that cops get annoyed if you’re constantly called somewhere. So they automatically did not like this Susan lady either, because obviously they’re like, oh, here we go again. I’m sure at the station they’re like, ah, damn it, that Susan lady’s calling again about the kids. You know, this is going to be bull crap. And we’re going to have to deal with the neighbors telling us all this stuff and we’re going to have to hear her sob story.

But then you get a little bit more of how Karen, this Susan was when you see a scene where her car’s locked in, I believe it was a tow yard or something, and she panics. So she says, and starts ramming the gate back and forth, hitting the gate, damaging it to the point where they need to replace it and they press, press charges on her. This is wild. Like in the new version of Policing now where if you do have a problem with the police and multiple run ins, they’re just like, run the tape. And you’ve got like a highlight reel of all the weird stuff that you’ve done.

And this lady had that highlight reel. She had, I guess she had called 911 somewhere between six and eight times over the span of two years. We see a majority of those. We actually see like the body cam of all that. And then the one where she rams the gate, which isn’t included in that. And then finally, like the last day when she calls 911 for the last time before this thing like escalates and blows completely up. So it’s just, it’s just interesting that now we’ve got all this and the whole time I’m wondering, why don’t you have a ring cam? Why don’t you have like a, like a camera pointed at the yard? Just so.

Because every single time she goes up to the police, they’re like, do you have video evidence? No. Okay, well, we don’t have any credible eyewitness evidence other than yours, so we can’t really do much. And then almost feel like they’re hinting at this lady, like, get a camera lady, get a camera lady. And for whatever reason that they state later on in the documentary that Susan’s not great at making rational decisions, that she Just lets emotion guide her decisions. And that’s maybe another one. Like, it makes sense that you would just get a camera, but Susan doesn’t make sense.

So she’s not going to make decisions that makes like any sense at all. No, I agree with you. Not just the cameras or hey, here’s another thing. Just move out. Go find another. Like within like a year you should be able to move out. I get it. Not in this market. In this, she’s got to be able to find she’s renting. Right. Or find like. I’m with you. I was also. The other solution is get the cameras and go, hey, here’s what they’re doing. Here’s the proof. It’s not my word. Because what you’re having is her word versus everybody else’s word in the neighborhood, which it’s obvious that all the those mothers involved and all the kids involved talk about this constantly.

And she’s an enemy to all of them. She does not. None of them like her. She has nobody to be on her side in that situation. And then the few neighbors that are maybe not linked up with them are like, I don’t want to deal with this. I’m fine with where with everything. And I can see like half the neighborhood is against her. So I’m not gonna be the only one on her side. Right. A lot of people aren’t gonna just stand there. And she is also not a cool person. Like, it’s not a, a person you’d want to defend.

It’s not an easy person. She is. She makes bad decisions, but she’s also like manipulative and one of those victim playing people. So I can see that nobod want Karen. Yeah, she, she’s like a literal Karen. She’s like the, the epitome of what a Karen is. Right. She’s the poacher child. And I think that kind of hurt her in this film. And I think that got the public perception because what happens is it escalates. So there’s about like six to eight calls before it escalates, where the kids are playing by her yard. They’re allegedly saying stuff to her.

There’s even a time where she claims that we’re trying to put a puppy inside the back of her car. And then the guy’s like, no, it was a large dog. Which I think there’s a lot of murky area in these things. Like, I think that everybody’s lying. I feel like Susan’s lying and the other neighbors are lying. I think everybody’s just Going back and forth and telling a story that looks, makes them look good. So after all this happens, one of the boys, Izzy, hit. He leaves his iPad or maybe was, yeah, Izzy’s mother. So he said tablet.

I’m pretty sure it wasn’t an iPad. Yeah, it probably was. It was a tablet. Right. And allegedly there was a skate left over there that Susan threw at one of the boys. That’s the alleged incident. And Susan took the tablet. The mom of Izzy goes to Susan’s house, bangs on her sliding glass door from 10 seconds to two minutes. Like they, they kind of break this down in the film. I, I want to say like, you know, time frame’s hard to say, right? 10 seconds can feel like two minutes, or 10 minutes can feel like two minutes.

That’s beside the point. So as she’s banging on the door, allegedly saying she’s going to murder Susan again. Susan, a manipulating victim, liar, maybe exaggerating, I don’t know. Well, Susan shoots her right through the door and says, I fear for my life. Right. Instantly calls the cops and, and does the famous line that we thought, I thought, like you, I thought, oh, she’s, she’s good. She said, I feared for my life. Boom. There’s no camera footage of her saying she was going to murder her. But the problem is, is that the neighborhood is like, we didn’t hear that.

We didn’t hear that she was going to murder. Say she’s going to murder Susan or do anything. She just went over there to get her kids tablet and talk. Yeah, I think that she had like some fresh baked cookies and like an apple pie. There was, yeah, she was over there. Just to spread the good news of Jesus Christ and Susan, this crazy lady just starts blasting through the door unprompted. Unprompted. And I, I went back to rewind it so I could remember. There’s a scene right after, like, right when they’re talking about, I think it’s Izzy.

One of the kids is talking about, like his mom got shot. It’s on a ring camera at one of the neighbor’s houses. And in the background you can hear like interviews from cops. Like they’re not showing the people, but you could tell that they were interviewing people in the neighborhood. And I found it interesting that there’s one kid that’s telling the truth where he’s like, yeah, she was banging and yelling and all this stuff. And then one other guy’s like, yeah, she was banging. Everybody else is like, no, she just like kind of went over there and was Just like, hey, can you come outside real quick? And I want to get my kids tablet.

And I was like, that is not what happened, bro. This lady went over there furious. And also they said that Susan was like, go get your mom. This was key to the case, which I know is a lie because in the beginning of the film, that mom, Izzy’s mom, says, I tell my kids, if Susan talks to you, don’t talk to her. Come get me. So the kids were trained to go get their mother in any of these instances. So I think that’s a lie as well. And again, I think everybody’s lying. I don’t think Sue.

I think Susan as well, is probably exaggerating. I think the lady went over there, pounded on, it was like, get your ass out here. Very upset. Rightfully so. I get it when you’re kids. But also, it seems like these parents are not watching these kids. It feels like the kids are just let loose and free to do whatever they want. So at the same time, I don’t like this new parenting style where I see it. Not just here, everywhere, where people are just like, well, you know, little Timmy, he just got to get his emotions out or like, oh, let him just like run free.

No, man. You have to reign kids in and be like, absolutely not. You’re not doing this. So that kind of gets me through the whole film. But I think maybe Susan shouldn’t have shot. But I could also see a way that Susan was fear of her life because she’s like, wow, I made these people so mad. Or in her delusional mind is like, what? I did nothing. And these people just want to kill me. There’s a couple things, and there’s like, some elements at play, and I just feel that even if it didn’t end the way that it ended, which was like, June 2, 2023, this is like the night that A.J.

williams, the. Or A.J. owens, the one that had the four kids, she runs up, bangs on the door, gets shot through the door, dies. Freaking spoiler alert, right? And then. And Susan ends up getting, like, arrested and, like, they put it through the system for this. But, man, when you see all the times that the cops show up and they’re basically. And they got the body cam on sometimes, and they’re with the group of kids, and they’re basically telling the kids, like, look, you know, I was a kid once too. You guys are being kids. I’d rather you be out here screaming and hollering and pissing off.

You know, Karen, as long as you’re not on the TikTok. Or as long as you’re not out there, like, gang banging. They don’t say gang banging, but that’s kind of like what they’re implying. Like, as long as you’re not out doing actual crime, like, whatever. Like, you can yell at this lady, like, I’m not going to do anything. I’m on your side. I think a cop literally tells these kids, I’m on your side. So it does, like, embolden this dynamic. And I think what happens is that Karen or Susan, even if she’s a little bit crazy and irrational, I don’t think she’s a complete idiot.

Like, I think she understands that this is the dynamic, that it’s a bunch of kids, and for whatever reason, she’s not getting the camera, probably because she realizes that having the camera wouldn’t have vindicated her. What’s. What’s happening is that kids are in a yard next to a house that she doesn’t even own, that she’s renting and that. And the person that owns that land doesn’t care if these kids are over there, and she’s just annoyed by them, and she starts instigating it. And the implication is when they ask her, like, oh, like, what. What would happen if we looked in your Internet search history? And she’s like, you won’t find nothing.

Like, just Facebook and stuff. You know, just normal stuff. And like, Karen, were you looking up Castle doctrine? Were you looking up stand your ground laws? Were you looking up the. The police cheat codes? So that when we show up, you say, I was in fear for my life. You know what I mean? Like, do all the things. And apparently she did all that in the. The days or weeks leading up to this event. And that’s why there’s this little tell when they’re like, did you ask for the mom? Like, go get your mom? Because I guess towards the end of this.

This documentary, it shows that the police narrative is now that Karen went online and built this case. She, like, had a premeditated murder in mind where she’s like, I’m gonna kill, like, these kids mom just because they keep annoying me. It was out of, like, anger and hate, as opposed to, like, fear for her life. And that she waited for the right moment, said, go get your mom. And I guess figured, this is the time that I can get away with it. And that. And that’s the premise. That’s a prem. The narrative that the documentary is also taking.

Because then even at the end, to me, it was a Weird. It was like, all of a sudden, Al Sharpton’s on the screen. Like, there’s, like, seven minutes left in the movie, in the documentary. I’m like, okay, I kind of understand what happened. The documentary doesn’t piece it together and spell it out very well. And now Al Sharpton’s yelling at me. And then it gives you stats like, white people are, you know, excused more often than black people and stand your ground laws, blah, blah, blah. And I’m. I’m all for, like, a discussion, an interesting documentary about that, but it was just like, here’s text on the screen and Al Sharpton talking in the last seven minutes.

And then the documentary ends. You’re like, wait a minute. What was there like, a. Like, a racial angle to this that I didn’t even see? And now when you’re mentioning that it came on the radar because it’s, like, popular on TikTok. Of course. Of course. That’s. That’s the reason why I guess this case or this documentary would have any clout at all is because it plays that card at, like, the last five seconds of the movie. Hidden treasures and overboard moments. I got nothing but overboard moments. For me, like, that. That’s kind of like. I get.

I guess the hidden treasure was like, it’s. It is interesting. Now we may see more documentaries, and we have seen some of them using more of these police body cameras, which I do find a little interesting, because we might see some cool stuff. And I’m waiting for someone to put, like, a compilation together of some of the best body cam footage. That part is probably a hidden treasure to me, but I’ll save everything for the overboard moments. I. I want to hear your hidden treasure. I got. I got some hidden treasures, man. Because I think that it.

It did raise one. The most interesting thing that happens in this entire documentary is this question of a combination of castle doctrine and stand your ground laws, which are, like, many states have these laws, but Florida has, like, a unique blend of the both of them, plus, like, I believe, constitutional carry. Now it’s. It’s kind of like a FAFO is now FA fo because it’s like, f around in Florida and definitely find out, you know, I mean, like. Like, Florida is the one place to maybe not test any of these laws, but the. The hidden treasure for me was finding out that shooting someone through a locked door is actually in a very gray legal area as to whether or not you can claim that in a stand your ground or castle doctrine defense.

And I guess that the biggest thing is that you have to be in imminent fear of danger of your life or like bodily harm or some kind of felony that’s about to be committed on you. And I guess in this particular case, the. The DA and the courts and the jury was able to basically say that, no, that Karen or Susan wasn’t actually afraid for her life. She was angry, and she shot out of anger and not out of fear. But if, like, the one little difference, if they could have proved the cheat code that I was in fear for my life, if they actually could have proved that she was in fear for her life, this wouldn’t have been such a clean cut.

Like, Susan goes to jail, she’s convicted of homicide. Right. It might have actually been part of the stand your ground law. But. And because those laws don’t actually state anything about doors being open or closed, it’s just, are you in fear for your life? And if you’re already at home, you don’t really have anywhere else to run. Like, right. Like if once they come into that front door. So that was the biggest one. And the takeaway is like, wait for them to come in the door, maybe even leave the door unlocked. Who knows? You know, I mean, but just like you, you have to still do these extra little steps in order to build a legal case for yourself.

And if that’s what Susan really was doing from day one and she kind of fumbled the ball at the, you know, like the. The endline. So I. I feel that that was one of the interesting there hidden treasures was just the fact that the stand your ground and castle doctrine are still have so much leeway. And I’m pretty sure that this particular case can now be used as precedent. So now if anyone else in the future gets shot through a closed locked door, maybe they can cite this case and be like, ah, like this doesn’t count as a stand your ground.

So that one’s really interesting to me. Another. A couple other ones was that once the. The event happens and Susan shoots AJ through the door and AJ dies, she doesn’t get immediately arrested. Like, she still has to go back to her neighborhood and kind of like live and deal with being in this aftermath chaos. And that’s when she calls the cops again. She’s like, hey, they’re out here. Harass me. I need help. I’m trying to move out. And I guess like, soon after that happens, they finally just come and bring her to the station. They like, they straight up booker for this homicide, but even then you can see the lady across the street.

I Think her name was, like, Yavon, like the. The white lady, like the ratchet lady. And she’s screaming like, yeah, you know why you got to call the cops? Because you can’t be out on these streets alone. Like, she’s. She’s basically making the same implication. It’s like even seeing another person die because this lady was so antagonized, this. Another one just fills that role. Like another hydra head pops up. And, like, now I’m going to start instigating this old lady. So the. The end point was that this was always going to end in tragedy if it.

Even if it wasn’t on that particular day, under these particular circumstances. It. There was never a. A point where this seemed like it was going to fizzle out or work itself out. It was always going to be someone was going to harm Susan or Susan was going to harm one of them. But I didn’t see it turn in any other way. And then the. The one other, like, minor thing is that on that last visit, when they show up and the lady across the street’s like, yeah, you can’t be out on streets. And they’re, like, shouting at this lady in her house.

The. A female cop shows up, and she’s already got her body cam on, so she’s already recording. Like, she sees the Ratchet lady. Like, she gets some of that energy. And then the guy cop shows up that was already on the scene, and he’s like, are you up? And. And I think that meant, like, are you recording on your body cam? And he’s like, oh, I should probably put mine on too. Beep. And I was just thinking, like, bro, somebody just died here. You’ve got a call about someone that’s like, hey, hey, I killed someone. The neighborhood’s mad at me.

They’re yelling at me like, I’m having problems. It just seems like I would just immediately hit that body cam before I’m even in the car driving over there. And the. And I had to look this part up too. There’s really no law that says when you have to start or stop recording on your body cam. It’s completely up to the discretion of all the individual apartments and regions. So manage. It just. It was wild to me seeing. And the guy knew. He knew immediately. He’s like, oh, I’m on camera. Hey, are you up? Oh, I should be on too.

Like, he knew he had messed up by not recording already. So I’m just like, the hidden treasures, they’re truly hid in this movie. Like, you gotta find them. But it’s like, man, you can also see the state dropping the ball here, too. In the back of my mind, the state has just as much of an incentive to pin this on Susan slash Karen to. Because that’ll take away all the responsibility that I feel that the state also has in, like, this tragic outcome. Yeah, I kind of seen it more of an overboard moment, but I could see what you mean by hidden treasure.

So, like, my thing was the reason the state changed their mind was because public perception changed their mind. Right? They had rallies, and they had people up there like, no, we need her arrested now. And hyped all these people up and to go back where you’re talking about that white ratchet Yvonne lady or whatever her name was. I saw her yelling and all that, and I’m like, this is not the first time you’ve done this. This is not the first time people have done this in that neighborhood. Again, I’m not justifying Susan. Like, I get it.

She’s an annoying neighbor. She’s a manipulator. She has her own issues. But they paint all these other people like, man, they’re just trying to live their. No, you guys were yelling back and forth. This was a constant issue. That this is. I saw that, and I’m like, oh, this is how it’s been for the last two years. Well, and, brother, there’s this extra layer on here, too, that. I don’t know. Some people don’t live in the actual outside world. So let me just give you a little, like, taste from actually being out in the real world with real people for.

For most of my life, I think it’s that there’s, like, what’s just and what’s right and what’s legal, and then there’s, like, what actually happens. You know what I mean? So, no, at no point was Karen or Susan justified. And anything that she did, the pe. The kids and the parents acting on her, they’re not justified on what they were doing to her, but, like, it doesn’t matter. Like, she went to jail for it, right? So technically, what she did was illegal, but it doesn’t mean that people won’t do something illegal in the moment. And whether you’re instigating something over, like, years and years and years just because, like, oh, she wouldn’t kill me.

That would be illegal. She’d go to jail. Like, yeah, bro. Like, that’s why jails and crimes and laws and cops exist, is because people do completely unpredictable things. And it just, like, watch this one as I guess, like, a Warning of, like, don’t mess with your neighbors. They might not always follow the law, especially if you push them past their point. Well, I also feel like this neighborhood, I have the feeling these moms were getting together like, oh, I’ll beat that chick’s ass and I’ll do this. I could tell. I know how people. I’ve seen that in my life.

You don’t see any of that in the documentary. So that’s. Don’t see that. But I. But at the end, the point you highlighted, I was like, oh, for sure. As soon as I seen them come on on camera, I was like, here we go. I was like, this isn’t going to be a propaganda piece on some BLM stuff. I thought that immediately, as soon as I saw everybody come in and interview it, and I was like. And I feel like I was right. And the, the overboard moment that I really felt as well was the cops, because they got the pressure.

They were literally trying to dig their way in. But they were using that one line like, you told her to come over you. That’s what made you plan it. So you’re able to go in there and be like, oh, you told the mom to come over. You told us, go get your mom. So you wanted her to come over and you wanted to kill her. That’s how they. The their whole premise of their case. And I’m like, that’s your. That’s how you convicted her. I was like, that’s so, like, such a weak case. And I. And I get it now.

I think you’re right that the locked door gray area is really what, like, legally. Right. The legality of it was what. Able to close it. But the way they got to arrest her was being like, well, you said so from what a kid said, like, literally a kid. And I was like, these kids are liars. I could hear them. I bet you that one kid was trying to put a dog in the. In the truck. Because they don’t like this lady anymore, in my opinion. So, like, they can see. You can tell kids repeat the things that their.

Their parents say. You could tell that some of the stuff that they were saying, they overheard their mom talking like that, so they felt comfortable talking like that. I’m. There’s also a big element of bad parenting. Again, I’m not justifying what Susan did, because Susan should have got cameras or moved out. Susan could have done. Made better choices. But to pretend like, oh, these were just some good kids that are just. No, these were wild kids. And I’m not saying that they were like, playing like bad kids, but they were super. They were like Bebe’s kids.

Yes, exactly. And. And that is annoying, man. Like, I’ve lived in apartments, bro, and I’m like, hey, man, get your kid. And you, if you tell anything to the kid or tell anything to the parents nowadays, they’re, oh, don’t be talking to my kid, or, don’t worry about what my kid does. And, and when I was little, if I was doing that and my neighbor came to my dad or my mom, they would have been like, oh, we’re going to handle this. Don’t worry. Like, he will not do that ever again. And I think that it shows.

I guess that could be a hidden. A hidden treasure as well. Instead of an overboard moment. It highlights that there’s a lot of bad parents out there and that’s the reason kids are doing whatever the hell they want. I think this, this case, though, it’s. It really is sort of clean cut. Like, I don’t think she was justified at all for the, the level of force that she brought, like, shooting through the closed door. And what they mentioned here is that when she originally calls 911 that day, and, and it sounds like this happened right after she threw the roller skated the kid and like, took the tablet or did something with the tablet, she immediately goes inside, calls 91 1, and by the time she hangs up the phone with 911 over like a four or five minute call, two minutes later, AJ is shot dead.

So from hanging up the phone to all this happening, and she’s like, in her mind, it felt like it was, you know, 10 minutes or something, but the cops keep pushing this. I mean, and I wanted to say, like, to be fair, this, the moment that she was in the police station the day that they arrested her, it didn’t matter what she said or what the cop said. Like, at that point, the D. A had signed a piece of paper somewhere that’s like, yes, you can go arrest her. So what? Ideally. And, and as soon as she sits down, it’s just like, Susan, have you ever said the n word, bro, As a pro tip, if you’re, if you’re at the police station and the cops are asking you this, you’re just like, lawyer, you know what I mean? Like, this is not going to go well for you.

And that was another thought. I was like, damn, that’s crazy. Like, the, the response to whether or not you said the N word might legally affect your entire case here. Like, if. And she’s like, Yeah, I might have said. You know what I mean? Like, I might have said it. She goes off and says, well, yeah, I say that. It means, like, you know, you’re dumb and you’re. I’m like, lady, you said the perfect thing. As soon as I seen her walk and sit into that chair, I’m like, where’s your lawyer? Like, I’m not going to talk to anybody without my lawyer, I’m assuming.

But this lady obviously was delusional. She. I. I think she suffered from, like, some kind of, like, I don’t know what. Not narcissistic, but like, some kind of, like, disorder of where she believed her own crap. Right. She obviously thought she was such an innocent, perfect neighbor and didn’t see what she did. And I. I do agree with you. I don’t think it’s justified what she did. I don’t think she, like, planned it out, but I do think that she thought about it quite a bit. Right. You know what I’m saying? Like, if she comes over here, I’m going to shoot her.

Like, you know what I’m saying? Like, thoughts of like, I hate these people so much. I don’t know if that she went to the farthest is like, okay, I’m gonna take the. The tablet and. And I’m gonna tell the kid to go get her. I don’t think that’s the way it happened. I think she probably had the gun, though, for a while, and just like, oh, if she comes over here, I’m gonna shoot her. And like, the same thing that they were saying on the other side, like, oh, I’m gonna beat that chick’s ass when I see her.

Like, both of them had, like, hostilities towards each other. And again, open your door, bro. Let her in if you’re gonna. If you really want to get away with it. I guess that’s the moral to the story. But she should have just moved. And in shooting through a locked door does to me kind of go, like, if she would have broke the sliding glass door, I would have kind of understand more like, okay, she broke in. You have the. The right under those doctrines to. To shoot her. But the locked door is a tough area. And that just now I know about my doors being locked or not.

If I’m in Florida. Also in Florida, I feel like if you’re white and you shoot someone, if you kill someone that’s black, and you’re in your house and you are citing stand your ground and castle doctrine and you still get convicted, then you were definitely in the wrong Right. Like, you were absolutely in the wrong because everything else was stacked up for you, but you, you screwed part of the formula up foreign. It’s about that time. Sink or swim. Oh, it’s such a sink, bro. This is like all the way down to the bottom of the lake.

First of all, this movie, this documentary was like an hour and 40 minutes just shy of that. And it could have just been a 20 minute episode of one of those like, Neighbors Gone Wild ID sort of series, right? There’s, there’s no way it needed to be dragged out this long. All the moments in silence where Susan or Karen is like sitting there thinking about what she’s done. Like, usually for dramatic effect, it like makes sense. But in this documentary, man, they just didn’t edit anything. They put a bunch of stuff together. And then the way that at the very end, and you were, you’re more cynical than me maybe when this comes up, because you were like, oh, I saw BLM coming a mile away.

I didn’t even see that happening until I saw all the different airbrushed like, Rest in Peace shirts and then Al Sharpton talking in like the last seven minutes or whatever. And I almost felt like, ah, like either I didn’t detect it coming or they truly just tacked it on. And I feel like they tacked it on in a big way. And I don’t know, like, if they had at least pitched that as the perspective from the first 10 minutes of this documentary, that I could have like been entertaining it the whole time and like, like thinking about it in that context.

But the, the fact they just like tack it out the very end is an afterthought. But they didn’t even try. Like, at least if you’re gonna to grift a little bit, like put effort into the grift or make it part of your thing, you know, I bet, I would almost bet money that someone was watching this in the, in the background. They’re like, you know, if we played this angle, we could probably get booked in more and more circuits. We might be able to get Netflix to bite on this one, you know, and it probably worked.

Probably worked by tacking that on. So I hate that it worked, especially because I think I watched most of this at like one and a half speed and it still felt like it was dragging on. Like I, I kept bumping it up faster, faster, faster. And I’m just like, are these people just talking really slow or is the editing slow? And then here’s the, the biggest part of all is that I Actually had to do my own research. After I finished this, I was just like, so who shot who? What day was it? Like, why did she get tried? Did she even go to jail? Because you don’t even see the court proceedings until the credits are rolling.

And then, like, you just barely get enough time to even figure out what actually happened. And then if you got an over an hour and a half about this one case that’s pretty cut and dry, Neighbor lady and neighborhood are antagonizing each other. Lady shoots neighbor through the door. The end. That’s kind of all that happens. It’s not like this huge case where they have to go on a manhunt or like, like decipher a zodiac killer letter or none of that. And the fact that they weren’t able to spell out exactly what happened, who it happened to, what she was charged with, how long she got all they had, all that information, and none of it came through.

I had to go and, like, read a whole bunch of articles, so I kind of hate them for that too. So. Sink all the way, man. Sink, Sink. Sink this. I. I’m sure that you could tell right away I was gonna say a sink for all the reasons you said as well. I think it’s a propaganda piece, man. It just felt like a propaganda piece. You didn’t even. It was biased from the get go. I saw. I could see that there was bias. I’m like, okay, like, again, what was the first hint of bias? When the pop goes to talk to Izzy’s mom and then about the sign, and then I seen the.

The ratchet white ladies. I’m like, oh, my God, here we go. I seen her. Oh, my God, bro. That. That’s it. I knew it. I was like, this is going to be at an angle. And how the cops were approaching it, right? They weren’t. They. They were just like, yeah, you know, kids just trying to be kids. And you’re not like the. And seeing that the parents were not paying attention. So I’m like, okay, I see where they’re going with this, that this is just some racist white lady that’s trying to get away with murder. But they didn’t even.

They were lazy. They just throw body footage, body cam footage. And then at the end, they kind of show you a brief, like, I’m with you. Go through the case. Let me see it. Let me be the judge of what actually happened. All the evidence. I. I’m pretty sure I’m with you. I stand that from what I’ve seen and what a little I’ve read that. I think she was guilty. I think that you can’t shoot someone through a locked door. I think you. You’re. In my opinion, your life is not in danger. You already called the cops.

Wait for the cops to come. Go hide in your room. Now, if she breaks into your house after you go into your room, then do what you got to do. Like, I understand that, but I think she’s guilty. The way they try to frame it this whole time is just. Just a little neighborhood of kids just trying to have fun, you know? And this crazy racist white lady is just trying to ruin it for them. And I don’t think that’s the case. I think that these kids were bad little kids, baby’s kids, saying some talking, some doing they weren’t supposed to, and the parents weren’t parenting.

I don’t know if they’re bad parents, but they’re absent. Absent parents, where they’re just like, I’m gonna go watch tv. I’m gonna be inside, and you guys just run the streets. Instead of, like, parenting and saying, don’t go over there. I would absolutely tell any kid in my life, do not go over there. I’m not saying you’re wrong. I understand. You should be able to play, but you need to learn that there’s people like this and they can do stupid stuff or dangerous, violent things. I don’t need you a part of that. Stay on this side of the street.

I wouldn’t even let them go on the other side of the street by her house. So that kind of annoys me that that element is not pushed. More like, hey, it’s just this racist white lady. Yes, she did wrong, but it was mutual. Both people were. She may have started this and maybe she’s going overboard, but you guys played into it as well. All the neighborhood moms, all the moms that they show constantly, the two ratchet white ladies, they had to be like, well, all the neighbors hate her. Like, you see in the beginning. Like, well, just so you know, all the neighbors already hate her.

And so they tried to paint this piece. And I’m like, oh, this is a propaganda piece. You want me to see? Like, see, like, look how all these white people. But then I’m like, she didn’t even get away with this. So what the hell is the whole point of this documentary? And then you don’t even show statistics at the end. You just say, black people are more likely to not, you know, like, get killed by. Stand your ground. Where’s the statistic to Back that up. Like, show me some facts, some research. So yeah, the research is who knows where the actual source was.

Like, maybe it is, maybe it isn’t. You know what I mean? So I’m like, get out of here. This is just a fluff propaganda piece. Or maybe, maybe it’s not a propaganda piece. But someone was like, yeah, if I attach this to it, I can get Netflix to pick it up and get a lot of money. And I think that’s what it was. And they did, and it worked. And there, there was. I wouldn’t definitely not call this like a hidden treasure, but there was like a really, really possible insightful moment that they just kind of glaze over here.

But it’s at the very end and they’re showing the two young kids. I don’t. They didn’t look 13, like the two younger brothers, Izzy and Israel, or Izzy and Isaac. And they’re mentioning that like one of the kids feels guilty and is like, he feels that it’s his fault that his mom died because he left the iPad over there. And with what you’re saying about leaving the iPad over there, dot, dot, dot is almost like he feels guilty for instigating this particular event, which then got mom to go over to the front door and like this whole thing unfolded and up.

I mean, there’s no way that any of this needs to be pinned on some kid, some like seven or eight year old kid, right? Like, to under. To understand like what could have happened was probably not even a potential like his brain. Like, thankfully, because he didn’t live in that environment yet until this night. And now people that are aware of this case now, it’s like, well, why shouldn’t my kids roam free? Because you might have a crazy Karen neighbor that like shoots you or your kids. That’s the reason. It’s not, it’s not because of what’s right or what’s just.

It’s because there’s crazy people and scared people that have guns, especially in Florida, that, that feel like they’d be in the right if they did that kind of thing. And if, if you’re not even considering that. And that’s just more part of like the neglectful parenting. Like you should be telling your kids, because also a thing too. Like, usually if you’ve got a neighbor that’s constantly calling the cops, a lot of people see that as a threat. Like, oh, you’re trying to get the cops in this neighborhood. The cops can bring violence. They can bring state sanctioned violence.

So you already know that this Lady’s a problem. So, yeah, I mean, this is just like red flags up and down. I do want to push back before we wrap up. I want to push back. Like, it’s not. If you’re living in this kind of a neighborhood, you’re chances are you don’t have like 50 other options on places you can move. Like, you’re probably stuck in whatever situation you’re currently in for whatever reason, especially if you’re like, still living there. But even then, man, I feel like, get an rv, get a mobile home and rent a mobile home out and be with your fellow brethren.

White trash, right? Like, at least remove yourself from the situation, even if it means that it’s financial hardship. Because now the alternative is, I assume this lady is like in jail for life. Yeah, 25 to life. And I wanna, before I would get all out of here, I want to say a little story about it. Like, so this is, for instance, my brother, his neighbor, her mother passed away and there was a bunch of, like, she was older, about 98 years old. And like, the family was over, right? And the brother was a little distraught. He’s older, he’s probably in his mid-50s or so.

And the neighbors across the street were mad where he parked, and he’s mad at them because he’s like, man, you guys, you know, I, I can’t back out. And so he went over there all mad and kind of, you know, he’s emotional. It was probably not the right time, but with what’s going on, he was emotional about it. And my brother saw that and saw him kind of arguing with him. So my brother walked over there, talks to the brother and goes, hey, come on, man, it’s not a big deal. Let the walks him, you know, walks him off the ledge, talks to the neighbors.

The next day, his sister who lives at the house goes, talks to the neighbors and apologizes and lets them know, hey, you know, and guess what? Now they’re all cool. That’s how you handle the situation. You don’t go, no, you ain’t doing this. My kids are going to be on that yard. I would have just talked to her and said, hey, don’t worry, my kids will never be anywhere near your house except, like, if you’re across the street the closest, right? Because I’m with you, I’m protecting my kids. That could have been one of the kids.

Like, you know what I’m saying? Like, Susan, I, I, I can see that she’s all her marbles aren’t there. And she could have shot One of the kids. And I think she would have, dude, Even, even if it didn’t happen that particular night, the fact that she’s in her house, she looked up the rules. She’s in her house. She got the gun out at some point or had it accessible. Like her hand went on at first before she even walked up to the door. So even if she were able to talk herself out of whatever she was going to do right before she pulls that trigger, it’s still this escalation.

Like now she’s looking at laws. Now she’s got a gun. Now she’s willing to get the gun. So it could have maybe just been a much slower burn. But I maybe like the fatalistic part of me is like this was always going to happen on a long enough timeline with all these people living in this neighborhood together. They were just. It was an incompatible situation for everyone involved. Even if one person was the problem, like the problem still existed. And don’t Forget, go to paranoidamerican.com kill themockingbirds.com like subscribe and share under the docs. You know you got our classics on Tuesdays and then you come in Mondays, tune into some tick tock favorites.

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