The ULTIMATE Paranormal Conspiracy Probe (PCP) w/ Bill Ted | Paranoid American Podcast 102

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So strap yourselves in, broaden your horizons, and steel yourselves for a voyage into the enigmatic heart of the Paranoid American podcast. Where each story, every image, every revelation brings us one step closer to the elusive truth. Hey, today I want to introduce Bill and Ted. Ted Logan and Bill S. Esquire. You might know them from Bill and Ted’s excellent Adventure. This is actually Keanu Reeves in the center of your screen, as you see right now. How you guys, how you guys doing, man? Thank you for taking your. Your busy days out of Hollywood to come and hang out with a conspiracy theorist.

I’m doing great, man. I’m happy. Good, man, doing good. Glad to be here. Seriously, dude, you got a nice little setup. I appreciate. Yeah, thanks for, for popping in the window and whatnot. I gotta ask you guys before we get started, because of the Bill and Ted sort of monikers, what is it about Bill and Ted’s excellent adventure? Like, why if, let’s say someone’s like, oh, I think I heard my grandpa mention that once, but I’ve never seen it. What’s the pitch. What’s the. What’s the pitch to the kids these days? To, like, watch it. Oh, to watch it.

Yeah. Or even care about it. Why even care about Bill and Ted’s excellent adventure in 2025? Bill, you want to take this honestly? It was just something we wanted to pick so we can go stay anonymous and gang up on, you know, trolls and stuff like that. And that was really it, man. Like, there wasn’t anything much more behind it. We just wanted to pick something that we knew we could resonate with. You know what I mean? I mean, we both. From our childhood. Yeah. Yeah. So it was like. When it came time to pick characters, we were like.

Those were, like, two people. They were musicians that. I mean, they wrote the song that saved the world. Dude, how can you not see that movie? You got. You got Devil’s Rock in it or whatever it’s called. You probably know better than I do. You’re way better at this stuff. But one of the ones, there’s a. They live in apartment 33. When someone knocks on the door. And I’m not saying that’s why we chose it. I’m saying after we did, I was like, everybody’s gonna attack this. I’m gonna go look. And I was like, oh, man, there’s a lot of crap in here.

But it was just there. It was a. It was kind of like a serious message, but told in a funny way. And that’s kind of what we’re about, is like, it came down to just picking characters to stay anonymous in the beginning, because we never planned on having a podcast and showing our faces. But it was more of. It was a movie we both liked. They were funny people. So we could use our humor to talk to people and. And lay stuff out in a funny way, which I think reaches people the easiest. And that’s basically it.

I mean, it’s kind of disappointing, actually. There’s no. Like, you should watch it because of this. Well, I can make. I can make that argum for you. It’s. I mean, Bill and Ted is. Should be in the arsenal of any conspiracy theorist watching movies, because a. It’s got George Carlin, which I think in. In some way, like, he is the very first dipping your toe into the pool of conspiracy theory and elite and sort of like these Illuminati type figures, right? His whole entire. It’s a whole big club, and you’re not in it like that. That particular phrase.

You can say that and just the most normal person at a grocery store, maybe over the age of 40 now. Right. Will be like, I know what you’re talking about. Even if they don’t care about anything else, they know that bit. It also kind of touches into time travel. It touches into time travel paradox. It t. It almost has you question, like, was Napoleon really pulling all the strings? Because, like, the. The dude would just be preoccupied at a water park. Like, if he just show water, the country goes away. Right. I think there was like, a Rothchild reference in there.

I. I don. Know, but I mean, I’m sure there was. I think that. Well, you. You also mentioned the apartment 33, and you’re like, I didn’t take it because of that. Don’t. Don’t call me a name. Right, right. Do you believe in what I guess I’ve come to understand as synchro mysticism and that, like, you can see patterns and stuff in movies and. And tv, and they have some sort of, like, prophecy in the works? I think they definitely show you stuff. I don’t. I don’t personally know for sure if it’s like a karmic thing that they have to.

Or they feel like it relieves them of the karma of what they’re gonna do if they tell you ahead of time. I don’t know that obviously, for sure, but I do know that there’s way too many circumstances of them having something in a movie and then almost the exact thing happening to just like, ignore it that I’m positive of. I’m kind of with them. But 33, you know, all that stuff, they. They’re always sliding in there. They have very, you know, very few numbers they like to use. Very few, you know, posters on the walls and shirts and all that in these, you know what I mean? Like, there’s always something in the background that they got to show.

Pedo swirls or something. Not necessarily in Bill and Ted, but, you know, a lot of the, like, 90s, there might not be in that one. No. Yeah, but. But, you know, there’s always something in there. You know, all this symbolism crap, whether it’s intentional or not. Who’s to say, really? But who knows? You know, once you. Once you start noticing stuff, it’s all over, man. You know, And a lot of it I. I found, too, is like, it’s to do with, like, the. The producer or the entertainment company that’s putting out the movie or whatever, the TV show.

You know what I mean? So if you start seeing these synchronicities between the same movies put out with the same producers and all that, like, yeah, you’re gonna. You’re go to want to question that, man. At least. At the very least. Well, especially the time period when these movies came out. We’re talking mid late 80s, early 90s. And that’s kind of when what you. I think you would call, like, Memphis design was really popular, which is like these like, neon colors with jagged edges and lines and little swirls and stuff. Yeah. So like, when you reference as like the pedo swirl, like the cinnamon swirl or something.

Right. I’m just curious, like, are we ready to just give over? Because that essentially is representing phi, I believe, like a golden ratio is. The spiral represents gold ratio. Are we just giving that the pedos? Do they just own golden ratio now and we don’t touch it. Here’s what I say about that stuff. I. I don’t think we’re handing it over. Just like, we’re not handing over the rainbow to the gay pride movement, and we’re not handing over a lot of stuff. But when someone is a public figure or producing or putting out a movie and they put it in knowing maybe that’s not how they want.

They. Maybe they wanted to put it in, but then we’re like, you know, I know it represents this, so maybe I should take it out. So I don’t necessarily think that all of them are that, but I definitely do think that enough of these people should be in the know. Just like you have celebrities talking about pizza and on Twitter and all this. Like, okay, maybe you’re just talking about pizza, but that’s another great example. Like, like, have. Do you guys eat significantly less pizza because of Pizzagate? Does it make. Does it make it to, like, maybe I’ll order Chinese instead.

I don’t want to have too much pizza showing up on, like, my Uber eats or what. No, it’s. It’s. It’s like taking. It’s like taking Christmas away from kids. You know what I mean? Like, you know, but I mean, I legitimately know people personally that, like, they won’t stop eating pizza. But it’s like, maybe they won’t have their picture taken. Maybe they won’t, like, eat it on stream because now all of a sudden it’s like, oh, my God, he’s eating pizza. That you know what that means? And it’s like, man, what if I just really like pizza? Or maybe just don’t email someone about spending tens of thousands of dollars on pizza and you’ll probably be okay.

I’m just. Okay, fine. It’s not that fine. You got some wiggle room there. So do you think that George Carlin was big enough to be in the club or. A club. That’s a tough. We’re talking Rufus here. Just. Just for context. Great questions. These are great questions. I know, man. You can tell you’re into stuff like we are. So, Billy, do you want to take this? Because I, I kind of have an answer. No, take your. Take your answer because it’s probably going to be just like yours, but more bland. Party on, Ted. I just. Okay, full disclosure, he could have been, but if you ex.

If, if you accept the fact that he was or think he was, that means you kind of got to take everything he said in a very different tone. If. If that’s true, then everything he said is mocking you. And then it makes me not want to watch anything he ever says. And that. That would bum me out. So I’m gonna go with. I’m not ready to go fifth. It’s. It’s a little crazy too, though, because all of this hinges on whether or not George Carlin was mocking you. And it seems that if you had, if you have to wonder for even a second, is George Carlin mocking me right now? Like, I think that you’ve already lost the thread, right? Yeah.

Good. It’s like. Well, it’s. It’s like the. What was it when Jim Carrey went on the Tonight show and did all that, you know, like the same thing as story. He was so over the top, but he was telling it right. He’s telling it like it is. He’s showing it, but it was so over the top. Was he still mocking or was he legit just laying it out there? Like, you know what’s funny? That kind of the same way to both of these things. Rufus are from our podcast. Rufus just sent us a video today of Tom Green doing stand up.

Did you see that? I did. He’s talking about Tartaria and how his friends retarded for not knowing it. I was like, again. So is he mocking us, right? Or is he putting it out there a little bit? I don’t know. It’s very hard to tell, man. You know, I saw that little stand up bit and I actually felt a little bit left out or maybe even jealous because he was talking about going through his feed and that in social media, people tend to curate a feed until they kind of live in like an echo chamber. Right? It’s just like the little bubble where everything you scroll by, it makes you feel smarter because everyone agrees with you.

And I was just like, damn, I Wish I could just feel like that for just one afternoon, because I even go through my own feed with my close friends and people I respect. And even then, it’s just like, God damn, these people are on another level. You know what I mean? Like, I don’t know if I ever look through and feel smarter. If anything, I’m like, these are people that I have, like, willingly decided to associate with, and these are their. Their innermost thoughts. Like, I’m glad no one else is over my shoulder here reading this with me.

Oh, God, that’s good. I want to know, what dumb hot takes do you guys have? Like, what. What’s something that, you know, if you just dropped in the middle of, like, Thanksgiving dinner with all your normie family members or whatever, and they would just be like, enough, Ted. Enough, Bill. Like, drop it. Don’t bring this up again. Oh, that Mo. Most. Most wives are not wives. A lot of. Right. Yeah, yeah, it’s. Yeah, that thing that. That’ll get them. That’ll twist them all up. You know what I mean? Especially you, like, my pops, who was like, hardcore America and all that stuff.

Like. Like, you know, that. That, you know, Barbara pops out the most. Barbara Bush was a dude. Maybe not Michelle. Really? Barbara Bush seems like an easy sell. A few, I know, but you know what? That’s just one of them things that. Back then, I think we were all under some sort of hypnosis or something, because even I was a kid, I remember him being president, and I remember seeing the pictures, but I don’t remember her looking like a him like that. Like a. Like a linebacker. You know what I mean? Now it’s just, like, jacked, you know, she’s got some girth.

It’s pretty. She’s pretty girthy. I’ll bow to your better judgment, Ted. This one’s particularly fascinating to me because I’ve seen so many people that specialize in this transvestigation stuff, and they’ll, right, bring up, like, the skull structures, and they’ll overlay onto, like, a celebrity’s head and be like, oh, there. There’s your proof. Look, look. Look at how the clavicle works. Well, that’s what I’m saying, dude, is like. You’ll see someone kind of specialize in that. And I don’t know if it’s people trolling or people that are like, I’ll prove them wrong, right? And all of a sudden, like, the transvestigators being transvestigated, and it’s.

There’s, like, a certain perfect Irony in it. Because you can’t. Like, what happens if you just realize, oh, my God, like, my. My head really does fit perfectly into, like, a female skull structure. What do I do about this, right? Like, do you just realize, like, maybe I am a chick deep down because this picture says so? Or. I mean, I got a grip of chest hair, bro. So I don’t know. And I mean, as far back as I can remember, I had something hanging. So I don’t know. I don’t know. We actually have overlay. I’m gonna put it on top of both of you right now.

We’re gonna. No, I don’t know. I wish I did. I should actually. I should figure out a way that I can do that real time. They’re like. They put the triangle on my face and they’re like. And his voice is feminine. He’s a female. I’m like, I didn’t choose my voice. I don’t know. And they’re like, show your clavicles. I was like, dude, that’s the weirdest way to try to get a good picture of a dude. That’s the strangest. You’re trying, dude, you’re a woman. Show your clavicles. It’s like, no, man, no. That’s way out of control, bro.

There’s no way out of it too there. It almost takes on a little bit of like a. Like a witch trial aspect where it’s like, well, now we’re going to try and drown you. And, you know, if you’re a chick, you won’t drown. You know what I mean? Does she float? Okay, non sequitur. Who killed jfk? The Mossad? Are we in universal agreement on that? Or. I mean, I don’t know the person who particularly pulled the trigger, but I know, I mean, I. Who cut the check. Gotta be George Bush. I mean, George Bush was. Was he.

I always forget this. Was he the director of the CIA at that time, or did he become it after. I believe it was he became after he was not currently as. That. That was right. Right before he became VP to Reagan, was when he was transitioned out of being the head of the CIA. But you could. You could argue that he was in Skull and Bones. And if you’re in Skull and Bones, you’re already in the CIA, even if not by name. Right? So I know you’ve seen that video, that guy talking about George Bush Senior and the Junior and the Skull and Bones with the.

Don’t make me say it, man. Well, the obscene, right? Is one of them or like the initiation ritual where they. Yes, they pleasure themselves in a coffin, and they have to, like, lift off all their 200 men, ejaculate semen onto them while they laid in a coffin. Like, whoa, Gog. And that’s it. All right, that all the important stuff out of the way. I had this. I’ve got this little segment that I usually save until the very end, but I feel like if we did it now, we could get. We could get a temperature check on both you guys and also figure out if there’s anywhere you disagree and use that as a guide to, like, come up with some interesting conversations.

So I like it. I like. I’m gonna play a little segment and then I’ll tell you how it works, and then we’ll get into it. Okay. Hey, conspiracy buffs. I double dare you to take some pcp. The paranormal conspiracy probe. On your marks. Get set and go. All right. Rules are real easy. And just to. To keep it consistent, we’ll go with Bill first and then Ted or answer all these in the. So I’m just gonna mention, like a topic, and I want you to rate it 1 to 10 on how much credit you personally give the topic.

So, for example, if I said Bigfoot, on a scale from 1 to 10, how much do you think Bigfoot is real? Hold on, I’m gonna go for a high to it. Can I ask. Before you answer, can I ask one question? Do we have to answer with only a number or can we quantify? I mean, you can. You can stick around as much as you want, but it has to. It has to resolve to a single number at some point. Oh, I’ll give you the number first and then I’ll tell you why. Sorry, I’m gonna go with a high six.

It’s not out of the realm of possibility that it exists. I mean, gosh, there’s, you know, Chimera, I believe there was all that stuff going on. So could there be a beastly ape, like man, you know, out there in the woods or, you know, in the Appalachian Mountains or all that? Yeah, okay. That’s not. More likely than not. Yeah, yeah. All right, I’ll go with that. I will give you a seven. But I will give you two different scenarios, but they both raid in at a seven, maybe an eight. Let me. Let me go with eight.

Actually, one, there’s some half apath thing that’s bigger, and they do live in areas and people don’t come across them because they’re smart and they intentionally avoid us and don’t want Anything to do with society. So possibly even normal human beings that just got weird and bred and they all got weird. That’s one possibility. I still give it a seven. The other one is that they’re interdimensional beings and that’s why you see them sometimes and you don’t, and they pop in and out of this dimension. And I. I give that a 7 or an 8, too, because I don’t know, man.

I know there’s weird crap, but there’s. I used to think there’s never been solid evidence, therefore it’s bull crap. But now that I know how much is hidden from us, the Smithsonian confiscated, giant bones, all that stuff. I think there’s too many people who have said that they’ve seen it for it to be nothing. There’s got to be something. But, sorry, I don’t want to drag this out too much because I know you have other ones, but. So, yes, a seven or eight in there. Or an eight. I’m gonna go with eight because you said one.

Can we get you to nine? I mean, tell. It seems like you’re just. It’s almost like he’s convincing himself. I am. I’m convincing myself as I’m going. Because he’s selling it. He’s selling. I used to think it was complete crap. That’s what I used to think. But I don’t think that anymore because, I mean, I will say Nessie, though. That’s. So if that’s one of your questions, I’ll answer that right now. That’s a zero, bro. What’s. Nessie? What? Weather balloon monster. No, no, I know, but like. But what is it really? Is it. Was it weather balloon or.

I’ve heard, like swamp gas. It could have been a series of ducks together that they caught a weir birds. It could have been like, there’s not an again. To me, there’s not enough of those sightings. And I know it’s not some dinosaur that made it. I just. I. I don’t think that has as much credibility. I just think it got a bunch of publicity in the tabloids, but I. I haven’t heard nearly as many stories and seen people. Like, when you see videos of Bigfoot, the people look terrified when they’re really telling, like, something went down.

Down. They could be sissies and it was something else, but something went down. When you see the. They’re like, oh, it was majestic. I took the picture. Look at it. It’s grainy. That’s it. That’s all you get. And some other people So I think there’s a lot more credibility for Bigfoot than Loch Ness monster. But it was all kind of a joke, actually, when I said Nessie. I don’t know about that one either. Well, I mean, just to be fair to Bill here, if. If Ted’s rating Nessie like a one. Where are you at, Bill? I’m gonna go with right around a four or five, you know, could be.

Could not be. They’re kind of like the same thing. They are tabloid legends, really. You know what I mean? And I think that may have ruined it a lot for them. You know what I mean? It’s like, it kind of made it just. I don’t know what’s. The only reason that we even know what Nessie means when someone brings it up are tabloids. It’s not because of, like, a subject that you studied in school, right? It came from sun magazine or, like, unsolved. They’re like, what is. You know, you said, what is messy? I was real bummed for a second because I thought you meant you didn’t know what it was.

I was like, how do you not know what messi it is, bro? You’ve restored my faith. Thank you. Yeah, so I don’t know, man. They’re kind of typ cast, dude. You could blame that National Geographic and everything else for just ruining it. You know what I mean? So I’ll put my tally mark down, too. I don’t care about Nessie. So maybe a five, but Bigfoot sort of similar where I might have given it like a. Like a two or a three at some point in the past, but I’ve talked to so many people that spend way more time outdoors and in nature than I ever will, even for the rest of my life.

If I lived outdoors for the next 20 or 30 years, I still would not amount to someone like Gary Lewis or some, you know, for example, that like, flies all over the world and, like, hunts and sleeps outside. And when he tells me, like, I have seen bigfoot, and I don’t care what anyone says, like, I know what I was looking at. Like, who the hell am I to. To keep so low? So I’m on the fence on Bigfoot too. So in particular is interesting. I’ll tell you this if you have time for a quick story, personal story.

So my cousin, who’s that hunted his whole life, probably has worn shoes less in his life than most people do in a week. Always outside, connected with nature. And he told me a story one time. It was actually him and my brother, but my Brother, it’s not selling anything because he’s not a country person, so what he says doesn’t really matter. But he was with my cousin. They were out there hunting, and they said they smelled something. Like, you know how sometimes it’s called the skunk ape down here? Like, as it smells really bad? So they said they just.

You just doxed yourself and you said, down here? Oh, yeah, I’m in South Florida. They just don’t know exactly where. Okay. Yeah. So they. They smelled something, and my cousin was like, it wasn’t a hog because hogs smell bad, too, but it wasn’t a hog. He’s like. And then, like, we would stop because we’d hear it, and when we would stop, stop, it would stop. And then when we would start going again, we’d hear it again. So it was something intelligent. He’s like, I’m not saying it was bigfoot. He’s like, but it wasn’t a cow. It wasn’t a hog.

It wasn’t. It wasn’t that. He’s like, so. I don’t know what it was, but. So again, a lot. A lot of places. There’s plenty of places. National parks. What if there’s villages of them in there? There’s hundreds and thousands of acres off limits. Yeah. I just find it hard to believe, or at least find it hard to believe, that it’s not a possibility that Bigfoot exists. All right. Yeah, rate me. We’ll go Bill and Ted again, same order. Yeah, okay, great. Magic one to ten. And I don’t mean, like, magic tricks. I mean, like. Like legit magic.

Yeah, I’m gonna go with a high nine, man. Eight. High nine. Somewhere in there. So we’ll stick with nine. How’s that? Yeah, I’ve seen some people do some. Some pretty wild stuff. Especially, like, what you gotta. You got. Now, you gotta back that up. Okay. What’s the most wild thing you’ve seen that you were like, that’s magic in my face. Yeah, this girl. Wherever else they put the magic. This girl I met, she was from Biloxi. Was it Vadu? Yeah, it was Biloxi. Famously known for their trailer park strip clubs and casinos. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that’s magic in itself.

And speaking of bad smells, that’s basically spent a lot of time. Yeah, she spent a lot of time in New Orleans and was into voodoo and stuff like that. And she basically said, if I show you something, are you gonna freak out? And I was like. Like, I don’t know. I mean, what. What level we Talking here. Normally when someone prefaces something that way, I’m gonna go with solid. Probably. Yeah, but yeah, right? I mean, is she gonna just drop trowel and take a dump in front of me and walk away? Like, that might too, but go ahead.

But no, this one I didn’t see coming. We walked out on a dock and we were out the. The new river down in Fort Lauderdale. This was years ago. And, yeah, she started kind of doing this. She says, just sit with me and just sit with me. And she’s like, now thank. Think, think cool, think breeze. Think this. And I’m like, chilling. And all of a sudden the wind, like, starts picking up. Dude, okay. And, like, things are happening now. This wasn’t like a windy night now. It was a windy night. But, like, right where we were, right there, like, the water’s moving.

Did you check to see if she had, like, the weather app, like, up on her? This was before that. This was before then. Dude, we were still playing Snake on. On a flip phone. Yeah. So otherwise I would have definitely went for that one. But, yeah, no, that was. And. And it was like, picking up almost to, like. To be thunderous kind of thing. And then. Okay, I mean, I’ve seen this too. Like the, like, the black anime guys that dress up like Akira and they start doing, like, hadoukens and then, like, wind and like. Yeah.

I mean, isn’t that sort of what we’re talking about just now? It’s just like some hippie chick. It stopped afterwards, man. It was good. It was good. If she knew, maybe she just knew it right at that moment that there was going to be some sort of, like, you know, listen, dude, you guys. Question. Don’t bitch about the answer. So I’m saying I’ve seen that, you know, And I. And I also know that people that have done witchcraft before and done things to people, and it has happened not necessarily in, like, the nastiest way. That’s how I lost all my hair, actually.

No, I’m just. I’m just kidding. But yes, people have put. I’ve seen people put curses on other people and things have happened, you know, and I wouldn’t be surprised. The people I’ve run with in my days have probably put some stuff on me, you know, so. Okay, so we got. We got a high nine from Bill. Where. Where are you at? Ted on 110. I’m gonna give a 10, but in a completely different manner. I think spells are words, and we cast them every day in what we say and what we do, and I think the news is casting spells.

I think any slogan we’ve ever heard in our life that people repeat is a spell. Any of these cliche sayings. I think that’s all spells because we go to spelling class. And I know that all that sounds stupid and people have heard it a billion times, but really think about it like you. Everything you say comes to fruition in your life in one way or another because you’re thinking about it all the time. So. And I think putting it out there has a special power. But I think that’s what government does. I think that’s what anybody who has significant influence on culture and population, they’re casting spells in one way or another.

I don’t necessarily think it’s David Blaine magic, he’s not out there like, doing, but like, I think that that’s kind of why they fed us this story of magic with the wands and this. And that is because they don’t want us to know that real magic exists and real magic is. Is what they use on you every day. Day. All right. I don’t disagree with that. There’s actually one of the earlier NLP books, I believe is called the Structure of Magic. That makes like a practical argument for that. And I guess one of the best examples by comics from Paranoid American.

By comics from Paranoid American. Where you guys at on 1 to 10? Time travel. And. And I guess. Let me, let me preface this. This one requires at least one qualifier that not just in theory, like, oh, maybe sometime in the future if we had the right. I mean, like, like right now, has anyone ever in history time travel? And I don’t even care if it was just like a half a second. We’ll see. I bypass Bill. But let me just quantify what you just said real quick. If anybody in history ever has or ever will time travel, then technically someone has time traveled now because they would have come back to this time and been here and been a time travel somewhere in our lives.

Because. Right. If you’re out of 10, that would. That would hold true. If you’re out of one, it wouldn’t, right? No, I’m at a 10. But let me let Bill go first. First. Oh, yeah, no, him and I do not see eye to eye to this. I don’t know, I’m like, I’m like a five. Maybe. Maybe a six. I’ll give it a six. I’m just not quite there yet, to be honest. Okay, we’ll come back to this one. Don’t worry. We’ll come back to this I like that. Can I. Can I. Yeah, I was gonna say about it.

I. I think that if anything, I think it’s a solid nine. Okay. Not a ten, a nine. But. But if you can. I do think you can only go to the past. I do not think you can go to the future. Like, could you go to the past and then go back to where you started from? Yes. Or would that be the future? I just think you can’t go past whatever the original present is because it hasn’t happened yet. What if. What if you went back a week and found Bill a week ago, but then brought a week ago Bill back to today? Wouldn’t that be having him? Yes.

Yes. Original. The original. From the original point where time travel is created. I don’t think you can go forward. I mean, so I don’t think you can go forward from when you’re doing it. So say when it was originally created. If, if you’re doing it five years later, you can go five years further than someone else did, but you can’t go past when you’re leaving unless you’re leaving from the past. Past that once was the present. Where does this rule come from? It’s not a rule. I’m just saying that’s what I feel. Because say I created time travel today I finally cracked it.

Right. How can I go forward to something that doesn’t happen yet? Nothing’s been written. I don’t think there’s. Well, only if time is not linear. If it were non linear, then it would just be like jumping forward or back or left or right. Would have no real bearing. Down. Down. Yeah. Different timelines and all that. I have trouble with that because I do think man created time. I don’t think, I mean, or at least how we. We use time in our lives. But again, if you’re talking about time travel, then what is time travel if there’s not a line, Right.

Timelines, per se. Like if you’re talking about jumping timelines and stuff like that. Like, if it’s all existing. I don’t know if. I don’t. I don’t think it’s. I don’t. I don’t know, man. I don’t know. But can you die? If you could, if you were time travel, wouldn’t that require a timeline to exist? The same way that like a map would exist if you were driving somewhere? There has to be a timeline. If time travel can exist. Because if time travel is a loop or if it multiple times are going on at the same time, then it’s not really time travel.

It’s more of a dimension shift. That’s. What do you think if you. If you went back. If you went back a week and you saw yourself, could you see yourself? And if you like, try to punch yourself, would that like rip a hole in time space? See, so here’s the thing. I don’t remember the name of it, but there was some show me and my wife watched because she was like, oh, people at work are talking about this. Let’s watch it. Oh, it was an M. Night Shyamalan movie. So it’s one of his last two ones.

And it was about time travel and it was good. I liked it. I’ve always liked his movies. I don’t give a. I like Hollywood because I love picking it apart and doing all that. But I will say the entire time my wife was probably pissed at me because I was like, yeah, that couldn’t work because of the. This. Like, was it old? What? Was it old where they go to the beach and time. Like fast forward. That’s a good one too. No, it was about. It was a town where some. Some girl ended up time traveling and meeting her dad that disappeared when she was a baby.

And she ended up seeing her mom having the argument with him when he left. But that was actually him from the future because he had already died. Like, it’s this big freaking interesting. This doesn’t ring any bells for me. It’s in the last couple years. I can find it. I’ll find it. Was it a movie or a tv? An M. Night Shyamalan or whatever movie? The dude who did sign, you know who he is, right? I’m sure. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the last ones he got was Trap, which is the one where the guy takes over like a Taylor Swift concert.

And there was not. There was knock at the cabin and then old and then glass and split and visit. And after his. Is it not his movie? Am I crazy? Maybe. I’m interested to know what it is for sure. So what about you, Bill? If you went back, would you. If you try to punch yourself, what happens in time in a timeline? I’d probably did it. My old me would probably beat up the new me. Right. Because you’re. The new you is a little bit older. Yeah. Even if you’re just like a week. It’s just like the hardest lesson.

Yeah. You know, you have. You have no idea. Like time is just accelerated by. By 10. Multiples of 10 for me. So you’re not on the hot seat, Ted. You don’t have to Find whatever. But I am going to message it to you because you need to watch it. I swear, I feel like it was on Amazon and I’m looking at his movies and it’s saying, I don’t. I don’t see the name, but I will find it out and I will message you. I promise. I’m not crazy. And it’s pretty good. It was something about the tide rising up and down and a dam, the place flooding.

All this crazy. It was. Was crazy. But I would. All of that aside, what I was doing was pointing out inconsistencies of how these things could happen because she had, like, a necklace that she wore. I think I do know you’re talking about. This is in, like. Like the bayou or something in New Orleans. Is it not his movie? I do. He might have had some kind of a credit on it. Yeah. And, like, there was like, a. A specific, like, riff shift in time space. And if you went through this area, then you might teleport like, into the future or into the past or.

Yes. Depending on what you’re. Control it. But he ended up saving his. What he thought, well, it was his daughter, but it ended up being his or his daughter’s great grandmother, which, if he saved her, how did he. She becomes his wife’s mother to have the kid. That was that. Like, there’s just too many things in it. Just give me regular old Bill and Ted. Time travel. You get into a phone booth. I feel like that’s how it should work. Something. All right. Yeah. As long as your antennas, you’re good. Here’s another one to 10 gematria.

Glad Bill’s taking this first. Well, I mean, yeah, I think there’s something to it, but I also don’t. Nowadays, man, with the Internet the way it is and how people could just change stuff on a whim, you know? And people are like, oh, I looked up the gematria for this, and it just so happens to match exactly what I was talking about. And I told you last week was gonna happen. And you know what I mean? And it’s all like, ah, I think. I think a lot of the. The Q people screwed that up, you know, But.

Well, if you ignore the Q people and the bad name that they gave it. What about just as a whole, let’s say we’re. We’re in, like, the year 1800 or something, and there’s not a bunch of schizos on Twitter throwing out super bowl scores. Right? Like, someone just actually like, hey, in this book, this number equals this number. And this word equals this number. And I think that I see some patterns in this. Do you think that that’s just the schizo mind or there’s. Is there something like legitimate in there? Obviously the strongs, Hebrew strongs and all that.

You know, there’s. There is definitely stuff to it. You know, it’ just. I think it’s just been. Been totally skewed and manipulated, unfortunately. It’s just my opinion too. I could be completely wrong. But anything that Google spits back at me, I’m definitely going to question 100. You know, I mean, I’m not going to take it for anything more than what I think it’s worth. So I’ll give Gematria right now. I’ll give it a. I’ll give it a 7 because of its. Of its history. Not the current so much, but the historical aspect. That’s a fair point.

Right, Go ahead. I was gonna say I was gonna give it a 5, and only because I think a lot of it has some significance, and I think a lot of it is people looking for significance. So there’s a lot of both. So if we’re going averages, we kind of got to go right in the middle. So do I think it’s a real thing and it. And there’s some sort of backing to it. It. I give that a 10, but as a category on the whole, I give it a five because there’s just as much out there as there is truth about it.

All right, well, the correct answer was three, because according to reductive calan cipher, Gamacha reduces down to a three. So you guys failed that one. Very nicely done. How about Illuminati now? How about Tartaria? You got to score Tartaria on one attempt. 10. I mean, obviously. Well, there’s. Again, it’s like Tartaria is so broad. But let’s qualify. How do you. How can we qualify it so that you feel confident coming up with a number? I mean, I can get specific with 10. I’m gonna go with 10. I mean, because it’s pretty, pretty obvious that, that there’s hidden history here and, and what we’ve been told is not exactly what went down.

There’s too many things that don’t make sense. There’s buildings that just couldn’t have been built at the time that they say they’ve been built, built there. There’s just so many, you know, I don’t know, just incorrect things that don’t line up. You know what I mean, with the fires and all that, and Things being rebuilt. Well, let me. Let me help qualify just a little bit because. Because I feel it would be unfair to say history has been lied about, therefore tartary gets a 10. Like, let’s just. Let’s just say that history has been lied about.

Gets a 10 in its own little bubble. We’ve. We’ve been lied, you know, too, about history. Okay, fair enough. Now, now, Tartaria. Tartaria does not exclusively own history lying to us. I think we all get to own that. So in. In that it wasn’t just a blanket term for like that huge landmass of like Asia Minor out there or like Russia slash Asia, like that. It was an actual empire. And that not only was it an empire, but it. That it had some sort of superior knowledge or technology that needed to be actively suppressed by whoever the, you know, fill in the blank is.

So that version of Tartaria don’t worry about mud, floods or. Or castle lasers or any of that yet. Just. Right. Just that there was like. I mean, that version. I’m gonna have to stick with the five because it could be or could not be, right? But I do believe that it did exist and it was an empire. What did it have? This fantastical, you know, technology and everything like that. You know, it could very well have. He said, don’t worry about that yet. Just the. No. So we’re like on a get. Like you could. You could be swayed for or against Arteria minus the space laser, because I know it exists, but minus the.

Yes, all the. Okay, no. Let’s. Let’s just say. Let’s add in the mud flood and the. The lasers hitting the castles and they’re melting. Does that change the five to a six or does it change it to like a four? Well, I don’t. I don’t. I can’t. I gotta pick that apart because I don’t know if it was lasers melting them thing, you know what I mean? But. Or just, you know, some kind of crazy chemical or whatever, it could have been, you know, space aliens shooting, you know. No, I’m kidding. Yeah, I. It sure. Give it a six.

I like how you say, like, I’m kidding, but there’s literally someone listening. That’s like. No, that’s what happened. I know, I know. People. It’s. It’s like you really want it. You really, really want it, right? But we just can’t prove it. I’d rather sit there and deny everything else that they told me, you know what I mean? Than. Than try to prove something I can’t or to try to stick to something I can’t prove. Prove. You know, this is where we differ a little. I like this. As for Tartaria’s existence, I give it a solid 10.

A very solid 10, actually. Okay, yes, a 10. The only caveat is that I don’t trust anything from the past. So the old maps that have it, and there’s thousands of them that have Tartaria on them, there’s no disputing that. So either they faked thousands of old maps, which they could do, or it was definitely something. As for technology that was superior to ours, I just said this on our last. On our last episode, so I don’t want to sound like a repeating piece of crap, but that’s. That’s a touchy subject for me because. What do you mean by technology? Because people today view technology as phones and laptops.

I mean, to me, a monkey’s putting a stick into an ant hill is technology. Yeah. And I guess. But I guess the. The caveat here would be that we’re talk about technology that was advanced enough that it was worthy of being wiped out and lied about. Like someone drove by and was like, damn, did you see that? Whatever what that guy had? And someone was like, we need to break that right now. Like, no one’s allowed to have that. I go a thousand percent with that then in any way, whether it was even just the buildings that didn’t have free energy technology, they didn’t want us seeing that people from that long ago could create things like this because it doesn’t fit their timeline of cowboys and Indians and the gold rut rush and this and that.

Because we already know that California used to be an island. San Francisco and Chicago and all these places were there before they claimed they were. Columbus did not discover America. Even if you go with the official narrative, there was Norwegians here a long time ago, because there’s carving in rocks in like Michigan where they were here. So we know they were here. Which also tells us that the Great Lakes probably used to connect to the ocean. So there’s so much stuff that they don’t tell us about that definitely happened. So I. I think if they decided to never tell us about a society, there’s a good reason for it.

Whether it was a tiny society or spanned the whole plane like I believe it did, or at least had divisions all over, just like America does now. And I think they were peaceful and I think they had different technology than us. I think they used bells to heal. I think they had energy that went through salt water. That’s why they have all things. I definitely think the star forts were something, but I don’t know what the heck they were. I, I, I have no clue. But they’re all over. I’ve seen two of them in my own life.

There’s an energy there that’s different than anywhere else I’ve ever been. I’ve been to the one in the Keys and I’ve been in the one in St. Augustine and there’s something there that’s a different energy. So they definitely had something and they definitely lied. But. Sorry, go ahead, Bill. No, no, I’m sorry. I didn’t want, I just wanted it because before, while it was still fresh, I, I agree that they were, maybe they were harnessing the technology that we didn’t know we have already. Already, like he’s saying. That’s a good point. Like that’s, that’s kind of what I was getting at is like, did they have these giant unheard of laser guns that we don’t have today? No, I don’t think they would make those.

I think they were beyond that. Right. So I got, I got two follow ups on Tartarian. These are always the questions in the back of my head. So one of those is, is that, is the oldest map the rightest map? Or is there a chance theoret, Is there a chance that like the first map that someone ever made and then someone came along, they were like, I think it’s actually like this and that over time it iteratively gets better. Or is it that whoever, the first one that put a map down and wrote Tartaria, if they did it first, then that’s like, that’s the accurate one and anything that came after that is less accurate.

I could see somebody just being like, ah. I don’t really feel like walking the rest of the way. So let me just fill this in a little wiggle right here. Yeah, maybe that’s just me putting my lazy touch on it, you know, I don’t, I don’t know, man. Yeah, the hip bone’s connected to the thigh bone. What do you want? There you go. Yeah. So since I have a phone booth time machine, I happen to know. Exactly. So in the beginning, I think the first map was definitely not the most accurate. It was the most accurate of that time.

But I think after that people had the ability to go further and they had the ability to do more. So I don’t know when the moment was. I’m still trying to dial that in on the phone, but so I Think it got, they got better and then there was a point where whoever they are took over knowledge and then they got worse after that. So I think there was a growing, there was a peak, like a plateau and then there was a downfall after that. Okay. And I mean that, that seems like that would have to exist in order for the suppression part to work out.

Right? So, so I guess here’s, here’s the other one. The biggest mind meld for me when it comes to the Tartaria is that it requires you to acknowledge that maybe all of the information that was provided to the world up until like the, the 19th century, like the 1800s was all fabricated in order to cover up this older civilization. So likewise, there’s got, I mean in my mind there’s got to be a cut off where at some point mean people existed. Like there was, there’s some ancient person that actually wrote down and found out some mathematical theorem.

But then at a certain point, like all the other new names, a lot one that comes up a lot was like Galileo or they’re like, Galileo never really existed. I’ve heard Plato didn’t exist. I’ve heard Pythagoras didn’t exist. Where, how do you, where do you draw the line? Like, like the guy that, that’s saying, you know, Galileo didn’t exist. Can you just be like, well, the guy that says Galileo didn’t exist, he doesn’t exist. Like where, like it seems like it’s turtles all the way down. So how, how do you discern, you’re like, all right, anything after 1800 I don’t believe, but anything before 1700 I do believe.

Or like, how do you like decide the truth? You can’t, you can’t because you are there. Yeah, but if I had to take a shot in the dark, I would think it was around the late 1800s. And anything that we’ve heard since then, so no one today is alive that can vouch for anything different is because that’s when a lot of the big money started coming in and taking over things and co opting them and all that. So anything we have after that, anything we’ve learned in schools, in schools, not, not counting what we can learn on the Internet and old books and stuff like that.

That’s why one of my favorite things ever is old bookstores. But so it’s like you can’t trust at least me personally. I’m not telling you what to do, but I can’t trust anything that’s been put out in my life. And if you’re lucky enough to get an old book if you can tell it’s old. I feel like that’s, that’s your best way. But it’s even hard to get hold of old books from back then, from that far that aren’t redone or whatever. Yeah. What about say like the Revolutionary War, which would, which would predate 1800. Is there a chance that it just never happened? There was no such thing as a Revolutionary War.

Yes, but. Bill, go ahead. Yeah, there’s a chance that it didn’t happen. There’s also a chance that it didn’t happen the exact way it’s been told to us. And we probably didn’t even win it. But you know, that. That just opens up a whole other can of worms, doesn’t it? That was when the sleet slacks won and we’re actually indentured servitude to them. Yes, yes. So, so, so the, the Tartaria thing pretty much always dovetail. It’s almost synonymous, but it dovetails at least in a flat earth. So let me have you individually rate flat earth on 1 to 10.

10. Really flat. Flatter it. The Earth is not a globe. So it is not a spinning globe in outer space traveling at 60, 666, 000 miles an hour or whatever it is, you know. Yeah, that’s, that’s 100%. Not sure if you’re aware of us, but we’re definitely. No, I, I am. I mean, was like setting us up or what? But. Yeah, he’s segwaying, bro. Is it a flat pancake in the middle of outer space? No, it is not. Do we really know? No, we don’t. But I’ll tell you what it’s not. It is not that thing that spins in front of a Universal movie every, every time you know, with a little plane flying in front of it and all that.

Yeah. That they had before anyone ever saw it. Right. Yeah. So, okay, are we 10, are we 10 and 10 on this? Well, we’re 10 and 10 on this for sure because not a globe. And I feel like I’ll make it quick and then we can go on to whatever you want. I feel like people who think flat Earthers are crazy. Anybody listening to this, you think we’re crazy. So anybody listening to your show, I’m assuming is a conspiracy minded person, or at least an open. I hate that term. I can’t even believe I just said that.

An open minded person in. Who wants to look at things in a different way. So let’s go down to the facts that we all know. No one, nobody listening to this, aside from earthquakes, has ever felt the earth move. We’ve never felt it spin once. No one. With their own eyes, no matter how much you want to convince yourselves you have. Look it up. Even mainstream science tells you you haven’t. From an airplane. Plane. No one has ever seen the curve. Ever. Nope. So if we start with the earth has never moved, we’ve never felt it, and we’ve never seen the curve, and we trust our senses as people who are outside of the.

The. The sheep click. Then that’s where you start from. You should have to prove otherwise. And people buy those two things and expect us to prove different. Different. Trust your senses and work from there and tell me what you feel and see. I would. I would almost interject here too, that even if you do see a curve, your freaking eyeballs curved. So, I mean, that’s right. That curve. Right. So is the window on a plane. I mean, you know. Yeah. Here’s the thing. Let’s make it real simple. If you can, like, we can all agree from a baseline that you can only see so far.

Correct. Correct. No matter what, your eyeballs as a human being do not allow you to see forever. So there is a line at some point where you cannot see. Correct. I don’t know. This one gets murky because you can stare at the sun. Right. And the. Well, maybe this is a bad example. Right. Are you. Are you staring at something 93 million miles away? Okay, well, any artist will tell you there’s a point of. What’s that? I should know this. You probably know it. You’re an artist. The. The point where everything meets. There’s a point where you can’t see anymore.

So the horizon liner or. Yeah, yeah, but from all directions. There’s this center point where you can’t see beyond it even. Go look at. Aside from that, and go look at your weather app. But let’s just say. Let’s just say it’s a ridiculous amount. Let’s just say we can all see 100 miles right now. Take that and have a 100 mile stick. Hypothetically, obviously, I know you can’t really do this. Just work with me here, and you can point it in that direction, and then you can point it in that direction and you can point it up and you can point it down if you could point it in every direction.

But obviously you can’t point it down because there’s a ground. What shape does that make? Triangle. I failed geometry, man. Come on. It makes A dome, Right. You can point. Just like if you could go down, it would be a sphere. It would be a sphere. If you could point in every direction, it would be a sphere. But we can’t go down, so it makes a dome. I’m not trying to say that makes a dome, but I’m saying our vision, no matter what, is in a dome view. Because you can only see so far in every direction.

So no matter where you look, there’s only that distance you can see. So things are skewed when we look at distance, when there’s moisture in the air, when there’s all of that. But here’s the thing. If you can see it one single time, it means that it’s not a physical barrier. So when people are like, oh, you can see Chicago from Michigan, and they’re like, oh, it’s just a mirage. Well, first of all, mirages are upside down and they’re skewed and all that. And there’s been people who have gone on boats and held it the whole time.

But even if you believe that people are seeing it. So if you can see means either you have to believe that light is magically bending around a ball. It’s bending. That’s what they tell you. Light is bending. And it doesn’t matter how far it is. For some reason, it bends up perfectly to a level horizon for you to see. If it’s a hundred miles, if it’s a thousand miles, it bends up. Up right in your perspective where it’s flat. So either you have to believe that everything looks flat and it looks like the sun is moving, but we’re not, and it looks like everything’s flat and everything.

Or it really is that way. It really is flat. We really are stationary. That’s why you don’t feel the earth move. That’s why you don’t see curvature. We are. That’s why you don’t see any of this. And the only water to just wrap this. Yeah, water lays flat all the time. That’s an obvious. All the time. Yeah. How big does it have to be before it start curving, Man? Oh, that’s a great one. That’s a great one. Think about it. Scale up. Start with a puddle, start with a cup of water, then go to a puddle, then go to a kiddie pool, and then again, then go to a.

Then go to a pool, then go to a small pond, then go to a lake. We can keep going. At what point does the water have to curve with the earth? Or does it just. Should be an exact Number there really should. They should be able to. They can’t tell you that. You just don’t understand it. You just don’t understand it. Like. Well, I understand it completely. Let’s say that we take the. The earth is fly. If you both write a 10, let’s say that for sure it is flat or it’s. It’s non spherical regardless of the shape.

Right? Here we go. The ramifications of this does this. Like what do you guys think about the infinite plane theory? That let’s, you know, let’s. Let’s state the assumptions of a flat earth or whatever flat earth adjacent would be. And that’s the. We’re sort of encompassed by this arctic wall. And outside this arctic wall is. And now it’s like dot, dot, dot, you’ve got like a million different denominations of flat eartherism, right? So like one version is that outside this there’s like Pangea and there’s you know, middle Earth and there’s like, like Atlantis is out there and all these different.

Yeah, there’s all these different worlds and countries and stuff. Some even extrapolate that to me. Like all the planets, Mars and Saturn, all that they’re just kind of like land masses outside this. But let’s just assume that even all that is included in this. But I’ve seen the maps where it’ll be like. And then the infinite ocean and then the infinite plains and then the infinite wastelands are in like these four corners. Is there, is there a possibility of like actual and infinite plane? Like you could just keep walking in one direction forever and you would just be able to keep walking in that direction.

I can’t discount that because I just don’t know. You know what I mean? But. But I’m open to it. You know, that’s about as far as I could go, man. I. I could only take where my imagination can take me. You know what I mean? And right then and there like anything outside of this ice wall is game. Dude. Dude. Yeah. You know, even if it’s. It is just a. You hit the dome and then that’s it. And this is what it is. You know, I kind of doubt that I’m on the pole. I’m on the fence with that one.

You know, I think the. Oh, sorry. Did you have something? No, but that was, that, that was pretty much it. I was just, just gonna say I’m sure. No, no, that’s cool. That’s cool. I would say I’m sure could take it to it. I’ve known you for 25 years. I know you’re a dick. It’s cool, bro. So know. I think that anything past the 33rd parallel, conveniently the 33rd south parallel, I’m sure it’s just a coincidence. Anybody who watches your show knows what that means is speculation. And I love to speculate, I’m more than happy to.

But I think to say anything beyond that as a fact is totally irresponsible. But I love to talk about, about it. I think, I love to think that there are civilizations that are more advanced past us. And the reason I think these things is because you can go look it up yourself. Multiple high level people and high level politicians go to the ant, go to Antarctica. Sorry, I have a problem saying Antarctica because I know it’s not a little continent at the bottom of ball. They go to whatever that ring is and then they disappear and they’re off the grid for days.

Days. Who knows what they’re doing? I, I think they’re making deals with the people who live out there. And I know a lot of people say well that’s not what it says in the Bible. And if you don’t agree with that, then you don’t believe in the Bible. Well, I, I believe we have a version of the Bible. I think a lot of that’s true. But I also think that even if everything in the Bible was true, then maybe that Bible was written for this area and we’re not meant to know about things past that, so anything is possible.

Do I think God, and to answer your, to actually answer your question, do I think there’s an infinite plane? I think God is pos. Like can do anything. I think there could be an infinite plane. I think it’s, it’s within the realm of possibility. I don’t know what the purpose of infinite would be, but I don’t also think it would be very hard for God to make something infinite within our tiny minds that we can comprehend. But again, anything past the 33rd south parallel is pure speculation because you can’t go there without permission and filing all these things and you can’t do a lot of things so well, I mean can just to point out that conventional Rockefeller education states that space is more or less infinite.

So it seems like potato tomato in a little way, right? Like infinite land, infinite space. Like that’s my go to when people say oh, you believe we live on infinite plane. Well, you believe we live in an infinite universe. What’s the difference? Especially when you take into account that Einstein, which I don’t trust anyway But a bunch of people that are in science have said that our universe is on a level plane. Everything is within a plane. Just like Hubble said when he went to trace back the Big Bang and go in reverse and find where the Big Bang, or originally guess where his calculation said it originated from.

Memphis. Earth. Pretty much. I mean, yeah, fair enough. Earth. So anything they said. Because they’re measuring the furthest distances of everything we can see again. Your personal dome. A personal dome with the telescope. Everything they could see led back to Earth, the center. I wonder why. Because this was created for us. Us. And that’s what they don’t want you to know. They don’t want you to know that you are created. This is created for us. We’re here for a reason. No matter how small or large your reason is, whether you become famous and change the world or whether you just make one person’s day better.

We’re all here for a reason. And they don’t want you to know that. They want you to think you’re a blip that happened from an explosion that turned into an amoeba and survived the dinosaur era. And a monkey turned into a human. And now here you. You are. So that’s why they want you to believe in the Big Bang and all of that. And Bill’s says I’m talking too much. I can see it in his face. No, no, I’m like, I’m just, I laugh every time I hear it. You know what I mean? Like, and this is coming from monkeys, man, who used to be an atheist and used to think that evolution was real and used to laugh at people and put them in their place and say, science says, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And now I, I laugh at myself. Just, just, just to finalize it. It’s not, not exactly the coolest thing in the world to go around and be like, yeah, I’m a flat earther. Okay, Just for everybody listening. Like, you get a lot of. Okay, everybody’s like, you gotta do the protein. If you, if you shout that out loud at a dunkin donuts before 10am you get a free donut. Is that what it is? They’re like, actually, it’s shaped like this. It’s got, it’s got to be real loud though. You gotta shout it really loud. It’s got earth colors and stuff.

Like here. It’s actually, actually shaped like this. Post pictures of your donut underneath. Hollow. Hollow earth. Right? Yeah. Let me know in the comments how that goes. You go to a Duncan notice before 10am you shout it really loud and it’ll give you a free donut. Listen, if you post a video of you yelling flat Earth in a Dunkin Donuts underneath this episode and he sends it to me, I will give you something. I don’t know what it is. If I can’t come up with something clever, it will be money. Let me see. What do I.

So I have this that nobody wanted before. I’ll give you a mansion. But the mansion is going to be at the end of the. The infinite planes. There it is. Just go find it. I have astronaut ice cream sandwich. So if anyone posts a video underneath this of them yelling flat earth or the earth is flat or any variation thereof underneath this episode, I will personally send this to you. Astronaut ice cream. Get it? That’s phenomenal. It’s only half eaten too. That’s pretty cool. 110 Nephilim. Like and I guess to qualify Nephilim like a physical like, like large fallen angel, giant creature that lived on the physical earth at some point.

10? I wish. Actually I’m gonna give it a 12 because Nephilim have six fingers, so I’m gonna give it a 12. Go ahead. 10. 10, man. I. I heard something today though that blew my mind and I can’t even get. It’s just that we are actually. We’re actually fallen angels and it’s just like I. Oh man, it. It really messed me up. I’m not gonna lie. I was like, okay, I can’t listen to this anymore, you know, but anyone over 6 foot is fallen angel. Everyone else is basically. Fair enough. Absolutely. Especially left handers. Are you left handed, dude? I’m like a solid five.

Eight. So I’m good. I’m totally not. Pick me, bro. How about same rating? One to ten, but dinosaur sores? Zero. Yeah, not. Not a chance, man. Not even a one. No. No. Okay. Ask me about dragons. Do you mean dry? Exactly. Do you mean. Okay, we’ll rate. Rate dragons then. High. Not high eight. I’m gonna go with high eight. I was gonna say eight. So that’s fair enough. 88, bro. So what, so what is it about the sources that talk about dragons that are more reliable than sources that talk about dinosaurs? Is this another like. Because dinosaurs came out in like the mid late 1800s and like Nephilim and dragons were talked about before then.

It’s because the. Every other culture mentions dragons and like here we are. No, man. Giant lizards, Dinosaurs, bro. You know, little arms and big legs and you know, rawr. Like it’s like everything’s got to be a kid’s story, you know, so. But yeah, no, I’m gonna go with probably everybody else has it, right? And we’re the ones that are screwing it up, so. You know, anything the Smithsonian gets their hands on, you gotta. You gotta start asking questions. You know what I mean? Go find me an actual full dinosaur. Full bones and all, you know what I mean? Not.

Not recreated. Yeah, yeah, no, they. They take like a jaw line and then they just construct this thing out of what it could have looked like from that. It’s like. It’s like transvestigating a little bit. There you go. They’re like, look at the triangle. That’s a T. Rex, dude. Show me your clavicle. If you’re a real T. Rex, I hope that’s a clip at some point. Let me get a. A 1 to 10. That 911 was an inside job, bro. Hold on. You totally skipped me commenting on dinosaur. Dinosaur, yeah, dragons. So dinosaurs. I think you both gave zeros for dinosaurs.

But there’s. There’s caveats here, and there’s more to get into about it. So I think people have found big bones. I think they were giant humans. Do I think there were giant animals also and big lizards and stuff like that? Yes, because I think when the nitrogen used to be higher in our atmosphere back in the day, just like there was giant trees like there are in the Bible and multiple other stuff stories, everything grew bigger. And if you don’t believe this, go look at. I forget. I should be more prepared. There’s some mall where they have a tomato plant that has put out 20,000 tomatoes because the dude started growing it with nitrogen.

The tomatoes are giant. The plant grew huge. He put it in the center of a mall. It’s still growing, even though it’s not getting nitrogen anymore. It’s done crazy stuff. So, yes, the nitrogen levels used to be higher, which did create bigger animals. There’s fossils of giant turtles that are bigger than people. Not fossils, bones. Actual bones. Full bone structures. But like Bill said, there’s no full bones of any dinosaur. If you ask about them, they’ll tell you, oh, well, yeah, we have some bigger pieces, but you’re not allowed to see them. It’s all ground up chicken bone and plaster and all this.

And I think they did it to hide people discovering that there were bigger people back then. They were Nephilim. Nephilim. Babies of Nephilim. As it went down, they got smaller and smaller and then got wiped out. But there’s all kinds. You can Even go look. Not that I trust the government, but go look on the Library of Congress. You can find all these old newspapers yourself of gigantic bones being found where they’re set up and you can tell it’s a human. And then, oh, the bill. Would you say the Smithsonian? Smithsonian comes in and then all of a sudden, oh, there it’s a dinosaur and they’re on and they burn them up.

So I don’t think even if gigantic lizards existed, it wasn’t millions or billions of years ago and an asteroid didn’t wipe them out. And that’s all nonsense because then they say that the asteroid wiped them out, but then also they turned into chickens. Which is it? Come on, let’s be serious. You could just the same as that. You could just the same say, yeah, the nephilim, it was giants and God wiped them out with a flood, right? I mean, what? Almost. How can you prove which one can you prove? The asteroid? Has there ever been an asteroid that big to hit Earth? Are we ever gonna hit anything flying through space at this, you know what I mean? Like how are we dodging all, all these like space rocks and stuff? It’s pretty wild, don’t you think? Duck dodge did diamond.

Yeah, man, we just got it down. We got the perfect path. No big deal. I mean I’m so close all the time. Don’t they? I, I, I got B’s and A’s in my Rockefeller education. I was like very easily programmed. So like one of them is the chicks. A little club Crater, which is supposed to be the one that wiped out the dinosaurs. But there was apparently there were like two or three other what they call el. These extinction level events. Also a great Busta Rhymes album. But this extinction level event that happened, I agree that there was a few.

And then at some points in history, according to Rockefeller education system, that the humanity got whittled all the way down to like 300000 at some point because, because of these, you know, huge craters, I guess asteroids that hit. I know we’re probably not prepared for this. And you don’t have to just anybody who’s listening, pull up any of these impact craters. Anyone? Any single one. Images. Yeah. And tell me what shape they are. I bet they’re all a perfect circle, right? Or they’re actually. It looks like a 33 if you look at it. My point is that would have to mean that every asteroid hit earth at a 90 degree angle.

There’s no skid pattern, there’s no elongated thing that started skinny as it was Coming down in an angle and got bigger. They’re all craters that look like the crater of a geyser. Maybe the oceans of the deep. I don’t know. I don’t know what they are. But I would think that one single. Just like the moon. All those craters are supposedly caused for mass asteroids. You would think that one would hit in an angle, but they all happen to hit at 90 degrees, even though the moon is tidally locked with the Earth. And if it was to hit the moon at that angle, that would mean it would have to pass through the globe to get there and hit that at that 90 degree there.

But. But just believe it because a government agency with four really cool letters told you. I still think that we should try and blow up the moon. Like I want to just get that. Yes. Get it out of the way. Let’s not even talk about anymore. It won’t even exist. Exist. Stand out in front of Publix or Kroger or whatever your supermarket is and get a petition going and I will sign it. Dude, blow up the moon 2025. I mean, the CIA almost did that, apparently. So who knows? It could have been like a world’s fair sort of deal though.

So. All right, let’s get. Let’s get Back to the.1 to 10 on 911 was an inside job. Okay. Inside like us or inside like. Okay, well, okay, yeah, let’s qualify there because I think there’s like four versions of this. Right. So. Right. The official version is that no one knew it was happening, so it just happened. Then there is that someone knew it was happening but allowed it to happen. Then you’ve got. Someone knew it was happening because they helped, you know, like, like a scoot along and then you’ve got not. People knew it was happening because they literally planned for it to happen different levels.

Okay, so. Ladies and gentlemen, the dancing Israelis. Yeah, that was what I meant. Inside like USA or like inside cronies. You know what I mean? So, I mean, it’s. It’s like so basically it’s. It’s allowed to happen. Facilitate it happening and made it happen. Those are like the three different. Absolutely. All of them. All the above. Just. It’s just bad. It’s just all bad. Very bad. All completely opposite of the narrative. Look up and all that crap. Yeah, dude, that’s a great one. Where do the towers go? Yes, we’re talking. Yeah, you want to talk about some weapons? I used to think it was thermite.

Now I think it was dues. Well, let. Let me Ask this one. Holographic planes on 911. Wonderful. 10. You’ve heard this theory, right? That’s it. It just got a lot of merit because I’ve seen some videos especially, but people claim they. Oh, but I saw it. Okay, maybe you saw there was, there was a military plane flying in. Did the earth have a curve in these videos that you saw? But here’s the thing though. I will admit myself as a human being being, I maybe have embellished stories in my own mind because a grand thing happened when I was there and then I told it so many times that it became truth to me.

It’s false memory syndrome. Essentially. It happens. I mean it happens all the time. All the time. And a lot of times it’s little stuff. But if you saw and you were like out with your friends, haha, we’re having un refresco, let’s have it at the thing. Have tapas and look up and you see that and you’re like, oh, that was an explosion. And then you’re like, let’s look it up online. Or whatever people did actually 2001, maybe they went home, looked it up on their computer. No, you went outside your dance. Yeah. Turn on the news and saw a plane flew into the Twin Towers.

You would think that’s what you saw and you would never question it at that point. You would never question it. But regardless of if there were planes or not, not. I believe they could have crashed planes into the buildings and then did the rest of the stuff to seal the deal, or I mean, crash planes in the building to seal the deal. But that doesn’t matter because you have to look at the other things that happen. What about Building seven? What about them finding the hijacker’s passport? What about Pentagon, one of the most protected places in the world, having zero footage of this plane crashing into it? What about the fact that the hole is smaller than a plane would be and the wings disappeared and there’s no, no luggage and there was a tiny wheel.

And the only video we do have from a gas station like a mile away looks like a missile. Much like the Philadelphia plane crash, crash recently. But we’re not into that yet, so. Well, and, and not even to mention too that Flight 93 that hit Shanksville. Right. Also happened to fly directly into a retention pond, which was actually a collapsed salt mine. And the entire thing just either half vaporized and then the rest of it just was, was gone on from sight. So that they mind you in the perfect shape of a plane. Right. Like like, when they show the aerial, exactly how many planes have you been on that are, like, almost empty? Why were all these planes at a fraction of the capacity? It’s because that’s the only backstories they could come up with to create these people.

And on these stories, like, you probably know better than me, dude. You’re way better at these conspiracies. But I know that it was a small amount of people who died in the Shanksville one. And you’re like, really? This giant plane only had probably 33. No, I’m just kidding. But many people on it. It was like, I would expect. Not that I want it to be more, but I would expect it to be more. Why was it. And they’re like, oh, it was a red eye or an early morning flight. It wasn’t that busy. It’s like, I’m all.

I’m all. I’m all in on the. I’m with the one where the CIA took the planes and landed them somewhere else and all that and had them. If you don’t think they could remotely control planes back then, you’re kidding yourself. Oh, yeah, No, I. That. I definitely think. Not you, but whoever. Yeah. As far as you, Bill, holographics, I’m. I’m still with an 8. Just knowing what. Project Bluebeam. Sorry, dude. So bad. Yeah, so I’ll stick with an 8 on the holographic planes. Did we ever get a number out of you, Ted, on if they were.

If there were actually planes? Was that the original question? If there were holograms? Dude, if there were holograms, I’m. I’m going to go with the five only because I believe they could be holograms, but I believe they could also be something that we would never even think of. I also believe they could be false memories. So I do think it’s possible, and I do think they had the technology, but I don’t think it would even require that. I just think they could blow some up and tell people they were planes and people would fill in those memories.

Eyewitnesses are notoriously unreliable. Fair point. Yeah, so. So I guess you could stretch that to either holograms or false memories that have been implanted through media. It’s a 10, then? Fully a 10. Absolutely. All right, let’s restore some order here. So, Bill, you go first. Ted, you go. Dude, you said, let’s do this real quick first. And it would be an hour and a half, and we’re in an hour and 16 minutes. That’s what I’m Saying it’s awesome, though. This is great. This is great. I love it. I love going out. I want to get you guys to score celebrity clones.

And if we have to say a name, like let’s say Jamie Foxx as an example. Ah, it’s great. Great tabloid talk. Do I believe cloning exists? Yes, we, we know it does. Do I believe. I’m not asking about the feasibility of human cloning, which I would say is a 10. Right. We’re just held back by ethical celebrity. Oh, like so, yeah, I know that. I mean that like celebrity clones exist, exist, and we see them on tv and maybe Joe Biden was a clone at some point, like a, like a version of cloning that is out in front of our face, like in, at scale.

I, I, I’m, I’m leaning more towards 7 on that. Yeah, that’s about as far as I could go. I, I mean, it could, could fall to a six. All right, Ted, I was actually gonna say I give cloning a 6, but do I give look alikes? People have been given plastic surgery and, or wearing masks. Let’s say clone. Let’s say clone. I give it six. I give a six. All right, well, all right, let’s, let’s bounce back to Bill. Before we move on from clones. Who would you rate if, if celebrity cloning is possibly a seven, who’s the perfect example of like, there’s a seven right there.

I hate Hollywood because it could play tricks on you, you know what I mean? And this whole thing could be just some sort of distraction. And it was planned out and filmed and, and choreographed and, you know, chronologically just made up all these things, you know what I mean? I, I gotta go with the look alikes more with the, than the clones, like, like Ted said, man. Because I can’t personally, personally come up with an example of that was his clone, you know what I mean? Or her clone. I’ve seen the ones like the, what’s the one with the basketball player or whatever, and he looked like he shut down and then they were like working on his back or something.

I know you’re talking about, I don’t know the name, but I know who you’re talking about. Right? Yeah, okay, there’s an example. But again, we’re looking at a video, you know what I mean? Like, where’s the fourth wall? What’s going on here? You know, that’s where I’m like, oh, it’s just so, it’s so hard for me to sign fully, completely on to that dude. Okay, well, we’ll. We’ll say 7 and 6. The two include look alikes as well. Being thrown in our face. Yeah. Okay, here, here’s a more topical one. Elon Musk is a Nazi. One to ten.

I think he’s an actor, so I’m gonna go to one is a Nazi. Nazi. I give it a one. Also, I don’t think he’s tough enough to be a Nazi. I think he’s cool enough to be a Nazi. I. I don’t even think he’s not a Nazi. And that’s like an insult that he’s not a Nazi. I mean, I’m not praising Nazis because I don’t even believe that anything happened the way they said it did. But the things that. I mean, obviously killing people is always wrong. Let me be clear about that. But I don’t think think having pride of your country is wrong.

I don’t think wanting outside influences influencing your country is wrong. Wherever they may be from, it doesn’t matter where they’re from. I don’t think bankers should be running any country. I think the people should. And I don’t think we’re a democracy. And I don’t think most people even know what a democracy is. But we’re supposed to be a constitutional republic, public. And I don’t think any foreign interests in our country should be allowed. But I think he does like that. No, Elon, like, would could that have been done a better way? Sure. I think he just.

It’s all the show though, right? I know it is. And that’s what I’m saying. Like there. It’s like he’s South African. He’s not even from here. I don’t think he even grew up knowing what Nazis were. Probably. Probably. And I don’t think that some little move on a stage makes you a Nazi. Plenty of people have done that. Maybe not as exaggerated as he did, but you know, it’s just how. How about George Bush is a Nazi and you can. It can be senior or junior. It’s up to you. A Nazi. But see, no, I don’t think any of them are not textbooks.

Yeah. I think Nazi is just like something we were taught in school to hate. And it’s bad and this and that. And it has some meaning of us even know even the symbol, the Nazi symbol before that. It’s way before Germany. It’s. It’s ridiculous. Everything is so skewed, dude. You know, is this a one? Is if we. If you had to put a new number on this. George Bush is, is he the same one as one. A one. Yeah, yeah, I’m a one. I’m one on that. Even despite funding Nazi Germany with the Herman Brothers and.

Oh, I. I agree that they fund them, but a lot of people fund a lot of things for a lot of reasons. A lot of people fund a lot of things because they want division. They fund both sides. Like, that’s the thing that broke my mind open when I looked at who funded each president and I realized it was every single same person, all of them. So to me, that just means they’re funding both sides, because if that side wins, then they’ll have it in with them. So somebody funding somebody doesn’t make me think they support them.

People funded. The same people who funded the Nazi movement probably funded the Black Panthers. It’s a fair. It’s a fair point because I guess, like, that the Rothschilds didn’t immediately become, like, part of Napoleon’s army just because they helped fund the Napoleonic wars on both sides, right? Yeah, exactly. It’s. It’s all. Anything we hear is already a game of telephone. It’s already skewed, dude. So, I mean, you know it as well as I do. Anything on the news is not truth. Anything on TV is not truth. So you gotta look to older stuff and for topical things, you gotta learn.

I mean, unfortunately, at this point with AI, you, you have to use discernment and you have to learn to read between the lines. There’s no other way to survive at this point, unfortunately. All right, I got a few more. This next one is kind of. Is gonna kind of like spread into, like, three different questions, but it’ll probably go all very, very related. If you give one a certain score, you’ll give them all similar scores. So listen. Listen to the qualifications first, because it’s not as simple as it sounds. So the. The first one is, has a human being stepped foot on the moon in the last 100 years? And let me just qualify this, that the moon’s allowed to be local in this scenario.

It’s allowed to be 3,000 miles away, whatever it is, is. But has a human being stepped foot on the moon in the last 100 years? Absolutely not. That’s a zero, sir. Local or far away. There’s never been. It was a studio. That was it. I mean, yes, zero, zero. And I will say that it’s impossible to step foot on the moon is my guess. I guess the follow up is that the moon even exists. 11 to 10. It clearly exists. Exists. We can all see it. Is it solid? Right. Is it, is it a physical thing or is it a hologram? It will never be in your gps, let’s put it that way.

You’re never gonna, you’re never gonna be able to be adapted to and land on the moon. It’s not, it’s something that we’re made to see. And unfortunately at this point, I don’t even think we can grasp what, what we’re seeing and why we’re supposed to see it because we’re so far removed from it, just like we are, are from the, the powers we were born with and all that. But it’s, it’s something there that we’re supposed to see. It clearly is a timekeeper also because it’s on a 28 day cycle, even though they messed up our months and gave us 12 and we should have 13 months of 28 days.

And you know the one, look what they took from us, April Fool’s Day. The one, the one day where it switches over all of that. But no, no one’s ever landed on the moon. And I don’t think, I can’t prove. I don’t think it’s something you can land on. And I don’t think we’re meant to, to. And again, I’ll go back to the thing I said before. If you’re a Christian, anyone listening to this, or if you believe in God in any way and you believe in the Bible in some way and you think that God struck down the Tower of Babel because they were trying to build something up to heaven.

What do you think he would do to a space program? Hang a lemon and let it blow up? All right, last moon question, question 1 to 10. That Stanley Kubrick specifically was hired to film the moon landings. I’m gonna go with an 8. That he definitely had his hand in that he was, he was on the board, let’s just put it that way. If that’s what, how that goes, if that’s the term talk, I think a 10 because he had clearly had the highest technology at that time when he filmed the Space Odyssey and made it look better than NASA did for 10 to 15 years after that.

But in the Shining he also hinted at it to 13 on the shirt and with the rocket and going into that room and the twins and all that, it’s, it’s all hinting in there. So either he had a hand in it because he was the greatest at the time, or he’s trolling real hard because there’s no way that’s a coincidence. Yeah, you need to understand the occult too, you know, to really understand what’s going on with all this stuff. Now you guys passed the test. Well, you didn’t. You didn’t pass the test, but the test is over.

Let’s show the test is over. You survived the test. Let’s say you survived it. I just got a couple. A couple more questions. One, I guess the same thing that I was asking about George Carter Garland. Like, was he like a goodie or a baddie? Same similar question on Stanley Kubrick. Like, was. Was he planting seeds for, you know, the discerning viewer to be like, oh my God, he’s giving us insider info. Or was he rubbing our nose in it? I’m gonna go with B. Rubbing the nose, I think. So Stanley Kubrick was kind of like an agent of Kale.

He was a dick. He was. He was like, haha, look what I can do. I think he was just in the club, really. He was just one of them. He got the gig. You know what I mean? Like, out of everybody, he got the gig. You know, you don’t just get to do something like that without having to kiss the crown or kiss the ring or. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know? You know, I don’t even know if it goes. I mean, it could go that far. But what I believe is, and I should be. Again, I should be more prepared and you’ll probably know better than I do, but the old Harvard experiment where they made half the students prisoners and half the students guards.

Stanford prison experiment. Stanford. That’s what it was. Sorry. Yeah. So people, when they’re offered power and they can feel like they’re above other people, they’re going to take it and they’re going to exploit it. And if someone comes to you as a filmmaker and says, hey, we want you to be in on the biggest deception of all time. If. If you’re good enough to pull it off, what are you going to do? You’re going to say, hell yeah, I’m good enough. I can pull this off. Let’s do it. And I also believe that the astronauts didn’t know that it was being faked.

I think that they were told, let’s film a backup thing in case something goes wrong. Because America can’t see you die on the moon. If you die on the moon and something goes wrong, we need backup reels to show them. So let’s film something in studio before you leave. Let’s film some stuff like on A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon, where you use the round window and Show Earth. Let’s film this in case. That’s why even before they left, they were so happy because they thought we just filmed this in case, but we’re going to the moon.

And then when they got interviewed after, they looked very sad and had very little to say and were very. You give them far too much. You would give them way more credit than I do. I do. Only the only reason I do is because of their excitement before and their defeat after. That’s the only reason I look at people. Probably they just want to get punched in the face by Buzz Alger. And he’s smart. Yeah. Swear on the Bible. How many times does he have to tell everybody that they never went, you know, come on, man.

33. Yeah, there you go. That’s a good one. I’ve got a couple people with that, like, older people, like, hey, you remember seeing it on tv, right? Yeah, I saw it on TV with my family. Oh, well, watch this interview with Buzz Aldrin where he says, you didn’t. He says it was an animation and you didn’t watch it. So either he’s a liar or you are. Which is it? Oh, he’s just a crazy, senile old man. You know, he’s being sarcastic. Last question. Just because I want to. I want to run a tight ship here and let you guys get out of here.

Okay. Sorry. And you don’t have to. This isn’t a score. I just want curious. Do you guys think that AI right now in 2025 is tapping into to, like, entities or some sort of, like, other conscious. Is it just all math equations, just making really great guesses and doing math stuff? Or is it. Is it like, interfacing with some other intelligence? Three words or less. Whoa. Damn, bro. He’s like, we’re an hour and a half. Could be demonic. Is that three words? That was. That was good. I can’t do three words or less, so I’m. You don’t have to do three words or less.

You don’t have to do three. I don’t only think it’s happening now. I think it’s been happening. I think that the fallen angels that left their worldly bodies are always looking for a host, which is how demonic possession happens, how all that happens. They need a host. They don’t feel alive unless they have a body. They’re in another realm without that. So if they can be put into a digital body, the digital realm, and can interact with people and draw people in. Just next time you’re talking to it, ask it about demons. Ask it if it’s a demon and see what it says, because it’s going to tell you some fishy stuff.

It’s just. I think it’s already happening, and I think it’s a perfect vessel, and I think that’s why they want to make these robots that are sentient, because then they can put fallen angel, whatever, demons, whatever you want to call them, their consciousness in them, and they can live amongst us. Holy. I sound crazy. Notice was instructed not to knock until after this interview’s over, so. Excellent. I appreciate that, man. Yeah. What about you, Bill? Yeah. Are we interfacing with the. It sounds like you said could be demons, could be demonic. That’s. Well, you said three words, so there you go.

Am I. Am I on the fence? Of course, man. There’s so many. Come on. All right, let me just lay this out real, real quick. At any given time, I think we’re going through many, many psychological operations at this point in time right now, okay? So to use discernment. That’s all I can say. Use discernment. Trust your instincts. If you don’t know what those two things are, then you need to take another dive into yourself some. You know what I mean? And. And get to know you and. And figure out where you are and how far you’ve been MK Ultra, or you’re just following the program, you know what I mean? You need yourself and really look at this with just common sense, man.

You know what I mean? Like, if it’s doing things that it shouldn’t be, if AI is doing things that it really shouldn’t be in the time allotted that it’s been made, or. Or we don’t even know how long it’s been around. Right? It could have been around for the last 60 years. What do we know? You know what I mean? But use discernment. That’s all I can say. So, could be demonic, could just be really super intelligent quantum computer computer programs that, you know, they’re just not telling us the entire story, you know what I mean? So.

Well, and you. You mentioned too, that we’re sort of always being bombarded, like we’re always going through a psyop. Yeah, clarify. On the Paranoid American podcast. This is a psyop safe zone. You are not being okay, especially if you buy the Paranoid American comics or merch or toys. Like everything that you buy buys you at least another day or two of. Of being psyop free. So I just wanted to throw that out there. Nice. Okay, cool. Excellent. Excellent. And I’ll be Sure to stop at that store because I could use a break. So. Well, I think that we had a good conversation.

We. We jumped all over the place. I think people listening get a good idea of just how absolutely insane you guys truly are to cross the street if they see you walking towards you on the same. But. But where. If. If there is someone out there that wants to know more, wants to hear more, more of your insanity. Where. Where should they go and do that? Rumble. It’s simple. The Phone Booth podcast. Simple Spotify. Same thing. The Phone Booth podcast. My Personal Twitter is 10 Ted Logan, 1010 Bill. Mine’s Bill S. Esquire, underscore 11. And it’s @ Phone Booth Pod for the podcast X Twitter.

Yep. And I’ll do all the things where we put links and everything in the description so people can find you guys. Let me parting question. What’s. What’s a question that I didn’t ask that, like, you guys have been like, oh, we would have went, you know, for four hours on that topic. Like, what, what. What did I leave on the table for this one that we can get into next time? Like, you were really hot to try to talk about for the first, like, half hour, so I. I gave you the floor. I stepped right into that.

My silence. And what’s so funny is he’s the one who’s probably against that. He’s like, I’m tired of hearing about it. So it was. Sometimes it’s just on your mind, you know, I’m not going to fault you for that. But. But what. What. What took. What did trainees take the space of today? This is good. Good. Besides women’s sports, whatever they take on that, on that subject, can we. Can we cool it down with the transvestigation people? Like, it’s a little out of handed. You know what I mean? Like, is, not everybody deserves a try. It gets clicks.

I just got to let you know. Absolutely gets clicks. Wait, if we were to be like, let’s discuss, you know, the difference between classic, you know, platonic thought and neoplatonic dude. Like, that’s getting like seven. People might click like on that and not read it. But if you’re just like, taylor Swift has a Dick, you’re getting 10,000, 20,000 likes, right? Dude. Oh, God. I’m gonna name an episode that next. Next time I’m gonna. Next time it’s just us without a guest. I’m naming it Taylor Swift Most Popular. It won’t be monetized, but it’ll be popular. Can I just you know what? We could have.

We could have gone further into Q, actually, but. Okay, say that for next time. We’ll say that next time. Dude, every time that topic comes up, those are the ones lately that are like, this video is under review. And it just like stays under review for a really long, long time. You gotta wonder. You gotta. I mean. And we could have got into current politics also, which I’m. I’ll just put it out there. I think both sides are. I think it’s all. And it’s all a great show, but it’s fun to talk about. That’s all I’m saying.

Sometimes now, it’s true with all that’s going on. But if there’s one thing. If. If you’re asking me also, that’s a. That’s a tough one, man. Obviously, my passion is flat Earth, and only because. Because it turned me from an atheist to a believer in a creator, whatever you want to call it. I’m not harsh on other religions. Like, as long as you believe that we’re here for a reason and we’re not some random spec. Like. And your ears doesn’t involve strapping bombs to your chest and killing anybody. I’m cool with it. Like, believe what you want.

I’m not telling you the religion I grew up with is right. But just know that you’re here for a purpose. You’re not some random speck in some infinite galaxy. Galaxy, infinite universe. But I think we should talk about Birds aren’t real more. No, I’m totally kidding. I’m totally kidding. That’s one of the ones that I think are hilarious. But no, I’ve got the stickers. I. I’ll have to post a link to the sticker in the comments too. I don’t have one on hand. I do. I do have my. My self. Im. Im. Immolation zone. Keep back 50ft sticker.

So. Yeah, so. But if. In all honesty, in all seriousness, if there’s one. Oh, I love it. That is so. If there’s one that I could say that most people don’t talk about, that I’m very passionate about and has also changed my life, is that viruses don’t exist. There’s no such thing as viruses. When. When you think you’re sick, your body’s detoxing. When you. You’re like, oh, well, why? When someone else in my house is sick, sick. And. And then I get sick. Well, I bet you eat and drink the same things as them. I bet you’re in the same environment as them.

I Bet you have all those same things as them. So naturally your body is going to detox at the same time. And if you don’t buy that, talk about how women’s periods sync up when they’re around each other. So maybe your detox sequence syncs up too. There’s a lot of things, but until someone can identify a germ under a microscope and show it going through someone’s blood, and they can transmit viruses from one person to another, which they’ve tried through sneezing, injecting sputum, spitting in people’s mouths, all these things. That’s what I was going to say.

Like, would. Would you be willing to live stream yourself just like licking the handle of a Denny’s restroom to prove that you don’t believe I would 100% do that? All right, well, I think we know the next time you guys are going to be here, we’re going to do an on location. I’ll go to a Dunkin Donuts, you go to a Denny’s. We’ll figure out maybe Bill goes to the moon or whatever he can figure out. Space germs are totally different, bro. We didn’t talk about them. I would 100% do it. And I will tell you this.

It was hard for me to grasp in the beginning too. And since I have. I got sick one time, and when I told myself that this is just your body detoxing, this is just what you’re going to do. Drink a lot of water, try to sweat, don’t lay down and say I’m sick. It’s a virus. I got through it in two days. That was the one time in the last year and a half that I’ve even felt under the weather. You’re being poisoned daily in your food, in the air, in your water and everything. And then you wonder why your bodies do this.

It’s not viruses. It’s provably not viruses. I will do anything that you want me to do to prove it. I will let some bum sneeze in my face. I don’t care. It’s not a virus. I’ll throw up after because that’s gross. He can do all this on his own. Yeah, I was gonna say. I assume all this applies the bill. I will have the camera and I will take the. Okay. Video they’ve injected. You’ll be giving them the COVID test, Correct. They’ve injected sick person, mucus and other people in an attempt to make them sick. And they could not do it hundreds of times.

They. They can’t do it. It is not a virus, period. Deal with it. I mean, conversely, they’ve injected fecal matter into other people’s butts and seen them get healthier. Right? Yeah. I mean, I will bow to your bad judgment. I didn’t know we were talking about your weekend activities, but if, if we’re getting into it. I thought we were putting together an itinerary for the next episode. I love it. We’re almost there. We got 75%. Yeah, we’ve already got a to do list. So we do. All right, let me get you guys out of here. Bill and Ted, thank you so much for spending an hour over an hour and a half talking about just a wide range of topics.

You guys are definitely invited back on whenever you want to. Have you back on ours? Yes. Happening anytime, man. Real time experiments, bro. All right, thank you everyone for watching Bill and Ted. Thank you for coming on. I’ll see you guys next one. Awesome. Appreciate you, man. Ready for a cosmic conspiracy about Stanley Kubrick, moon landings and the CIA? Go visit NASA comic.com NASA comic.com CIA Stanley Kubrick put us on that’s why we’re singing this song I’m nessa comic that go visit nasacomic.com go visit nasacomic.com nasocomic.com CIA’s biggest calm stand Kubrick put us on that’s why we’re singing this song about NASA comic.com go visit NASA comic.com go visit NASA comic.com never a straight answer is a 40 page comic about Stanley Kubrick directing the Apollo space missions.

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