Was This Justice or a Ritual? The Truth vs. Alex Jones | Under the Docs 012

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You can clearly see that some of the stuff that he’s doing is kind of as they’re implying. He’s doing it for a buck, man. He’s just trying to make some money by exploiting a tragedy. And he realizes that exploiting tragedies is just one of his many money makers. Under the docks. Very deep, but we breaking the locks. Foreign this is under the docks. I’m Sean Chris and I am Paranoid American. The Truth vers Alex Jones a 2024 film directed and produced by Dan Reed. This documentary is Guns Pointed directly at Alex Jones. It’s. And I don’t want to say the phrase because I’m not sure if we’ll get kicked off, but it rhymes with just say.

Just say if we need to bleep it, we can do that. But let’s just. Let’s not hold back. Sandy Hook, right? The. The Sandy Hook incident, where this trial, they had a. They follow the trial of suing Alex Jones and his defamation lawsuit in civil court. Yeah, this one actually is a pretty decent overview of the entire debacle, which kind of swallowed up Alex Jones. It completely villainized him in so many people’s eyes, maybe even justifiably so. Because if. If you do ever want to be against Alex Jones, this would be the documentary to at least put you into that perspective, to understand who could want this guy bankrupt, maybe imprisoned, maybe worse.

This sort of gives you everything that you would need from that standpoint. And I’m not talking about if you’re a reptilian globalist and you just wanted to take them out from exposing you, but this is. This is how maybe the. The normies can be conditioned to look at Alex Jones. And it’s an interesting way to go through and just watch this and embrace it and, like, don’t fight it. If you do decide to watch this, watch it as if these are your own thoughts, just to see how much you agree with them in the end. Yeah, it’s definitely a character assassination.

It’s a Burnham at the stake moment. Enemy number one. You know what I mean? Like, he really gets public enemy number one vibes in this film. Everything’s directed at him. They do their best to make him look bad. But if you come with a critical mind, there is some things that you can get from this that I think are important. And I would say this might have taken Alex like a half a notch down in. In some regards when I’m. Because you can clearly see that some of the stuff that he’s doing is kind of as they’re implying he’s doing it for a buck, man.

He’s just trying to make some money by exploiting a tragedy. And he realizes that exploiting tragedies is just one of his many money makers. And I. And I can’t deny that part. Right. Like, I understand that part, but, yeah, we’re gonna. We’re gonna see how far you can actually bring that to an extreme. Plotting the course. Now, these claims I kind of separated that I. I’m not going to use all of them, but I have them all over because there’s some claims that they specifically say that Alex made, and then there’s claims that the film is kind of like trying to tell you.

Like, so one of the films kind of the whole thesis of it is Sandy Hook was a hoax. How they show repeatedly of footage of Alex saying it was a hoax and having other people on his show or people part of his network, not necessarily always saying it’s a hoax, but questioning the narrative and telling people this didn’t happen or the story is not real. One of the things that they, like we know in the conspiratorial rule that went viral is the parent that went out there to speak, and he’s smiling, and. And. And that’s where every.

And it went viral. And everybody’s like, oh, this is not real. How could you smile after such a tragedy? And this kind of opens up the door for the snowball to start rolling on people just to, like, start claiming everything’s fake. Well, yeah. And this documentary takes the point of view of basically the prosecutors working against Alex Jones out of the people suing Alex Jones. You get their perspective throughout this whole thing. And some of the very specific claims that they make, and by proxy this documentary makes, is that Alex Jones, for 10 years at least, intentionally lied about Sandy Hook being fake or that it was part of some government plot.

And they even stressed that he was the first person in the world to claim Sandy Hook was a false flag. And. And that he saw a direct spike in sales after making that claim and just continue to try and ride that wave for 10 years. And that that was one of the things that maybe I didn’t appreciate the context of that. A lot of these and, like, the parent interviews, they’re like, yeah, this happened 10 years ago, and we’re still dealing with it now 10 years later. The exact same claims are just being made over and over and over again.

And a lot of them had kind of hit their breaking points. Another thing that they kind of not necessarily a claim, but they kind of go into it, kind of piggybacks off. That is, this was the introduction of crisis actors where prior to this, you know, a false flag may have been like, government knowledge or some, you know, an inside job or some kind of formula, but not actual, hey, we got actors. They all work there. They’re all in on it. And that kind of push the narrative to something different. And I thought it, like you said there, they kind of paint the prosecutors as these heroes that are, like, defeating this misinformation machine.

And crisis actors is kind of like, in hoax. Are there two huge, like, oh, we got a moments, right? Like, see, he said this is fake. We’re gonna prove that his child really existed. We’re gonna prove that, hey, this guy wasn’t crying. I mean, wasn’t just smiling for the fun of it, but he was actually emotionally distressed. And one thing I will say is, for me personally, I’ve always thought that that was bogus where people were showing that footage of the dude smiling, and they were like, oh, man, how could you smile like that, you know, after a serious event? Well, I know for a fact that my sister worked at a gas station.

She was robbed by gunpoint, and she was laughing the whole time. So people in uncomfortable situations and when they’re nervous can have different tells, and sometimes it can. The conspiratorial community runs with things. Right? And this is probably something I can relate to as well. I got long story short, that I won’t tell here, but I got thrown off the back of a car going, like, a little over 40 miles an hour when I was much younger. And I had to go to the ER because I lost, like, all of the skin on the entire side of my body.

And the entire time, I’m, like, telling jokes and I’m laughing, and it’s just because that adrenaline rush hits everyone a little bit different. You deal with tragedy and trauma in different ways. And sometimes smiling and laughing and making jokes out of a very serious situation is the only way that you can figure out how to get by in the moment. It’s not like you get to sit down and plan, okay, what are my emotions gonna be? Sometimes they just. They just occur. So that’s one of the big claims in this movie, is that they’re showing that the.

The claim of the Alex Jones crowd is that clearly this dad is. Is a. Is an actor. He’s a trained actor. Because you can almost see the moment when he snaps from. We’re laughing, we’re kidding, we’re joking. Okay? Now it’s time to cry. And they also show over 10 years of footage how Alex not only develops this a little bit more, but he. He turns it into a hyperbole where now he’s crying and he’s like, doing this whole bombastic, like, theatrical presentation of him mocking this dad again, like 10 years in the future. And another one of the claims, I think one of the.

The ones that showed a little chink in the armor here is there’s a very particular case in which Alex Jones, right when he starts bringing out his supplements, that he’s claiming that there’s the. The largest or the highest rise of radiation levels on the west coast ever because of all sorts of things happening across the ocean. And. And that he sends his own reporters there with little Geiger counters to measure exactly how much radiation is there. And they’re actually showing very low levels. They’re showing levels that are the exact opposite of what Alex Jones is trying to say on air.

And they have an interview with one of his previous, like, news guys, and he’s telling us, yeah, Alex is pissed at us because he want, like, the implication was that he wants us to lie and say that the west coast has these high radiation levels. So, so then he can go back onto his show and say, see, I told you so. Yet again, Alex Jones is right. Buy these supplements. These will protect you from these horrible radiation levels. And by. By reporting that the radiation levels were actually low, it destroys his credibility and it destroys his ability to sell these supplements.

And that was one of these key points that I think it was trying to make, because then it’s saying, okay, now extrapolate that same mentality of let’s lie about something. Let’s get people, like, poke them in the fear porn button so that they’ll buy stuff and they’ll watch more of me. And that he just simply applied that exact same model to Sandy Hook. Yeah, Basically, one of the huge claims in, like, their. Their, like, gotcha moment is, hey, look at this spike that happened right after you mentioned some Sandy Hook information and your sales went through the roof.

And they’re kind of just like, you’re lying intentionally so that you can make more money. That’s like their main argument. And that’s how they try to vilify him to be like, hey, he’s a villain. He’s just trying to make money off a tragedy. And one thing I will say some, that kind of got me is where I’m like, well, isn’t that what all news does? The exact same note that I Made. Yeah, he’s not allowed to do that. Only we do that because he’s questioning in a different sense. But how many times are they like, hey, this is the Sandy Hook special, right? We’re gonna have all the parents on again.

We’re gonn the tragedy and all of that. That, that leads me into one of the other claims they make big time for the parents, that this emotional and psychological trauma that’s been caused, which, hey, I have grace for them. I understand they’ve lost children and in a, in a crazy event that maybe they don’t quite fully understand, but this whole like, hey, I’m. I’m suffering from this trauma because someone listened to an Alex Jones famous Joe and now they’re harassing me. I just don’t connect it with Alex Jones. I’m like, yeah, okay, maybe he is not great for making money and profits off a tragedy, but it’s not his fault that you’re suffering this trauma.

Don’t watch him and block the people that are harassing you. We’ve seen the same thing happen too. There was a group of three teens, I think, in the 90s, that killed someone in the woods and Metallica got blamed on that. And then there were similar ones where like, Marilyn Manson would get blamed because they’d see quotes to his lyrics and like, crime scenes. And it feels like an extension of that. But in this case, somehow Alex Jones is even more polarizing than Marilyn Manson was to, like the Christian Bible thumpers in the 90s. Somehow Alex Jones has become more demonic than even him.

So you, you kind of get some of those claims that they’re kind of making. And I don’t know, man, I, I kind of agree with the parents in that he, he kept this up for so long, for 10 years he’s bringing this up, but again, that’s just him doing exactly what the rest of the media does. And one of the claims that Alex Jones makes in this, which I kind of resonated with and I. It’s hard to set my entire bias aside on this one, but he says that the prosecutors convinced all these parents that all of the pain and suffering that they’re going through for the last 10 years, and, and every time they wake up and, and every time they think about their kids, all that pain is coming directly from Alex Jones in that somehow, if you punish Alex Jones enough, all that pain goes away.

And I, and I kind of relate to them doing that to these parents, because at a certain point, it’s like they’re. They’re going through this trauma and this tragedy, regardless of who’s reporting on it. It probably doesn’t feel great though to then have a bunch of people on Facebook calling your kid fake or calling them a. Or like the, the most egregious things you can imagine someone saying on the Internet, saying it about your dead child, that you still haven’t gotten over your own grief for it. It just adds an extra bit on top that most people would never have to even come across that sort of a dynamic in their entire life.

And I would say Alex Jones did facilitate a whole lot of extra pain and suffering. I’m on the fence over whether or not there’s like a litigious like consequence that needs to be enacted because of that. Other than collectively saying I think that Alex Jones is kind of a dick for what he did about this Sandy Hook thing. Like, absolutely. I feel that he was off base. And I also feel that he understood at a certain point that he was wrong, that it wasn’t just a holographic false flag and none of the kids were ever real.

And all of this, like even one of the moms at one point is like, so just get this straight. You’re a town of 28,000 people for 10 years all kept up this facade under whose budget? And you know, like over the course of different political parties in and out of office. That part of it does seem far fetched enough to be like, why are you still continuing this 10 years later? And that takes me into why one of my last claims. Well, more key point that they hammer home, especially towards the end a lot is the implication on public disclosure.

Right? They, they hammer home like you got to believe the institutions, you got to believe the, the legacy media. Like they paint this picture that there’s so many fringe people like Alex Jones that look at how he got this wrong and look at the torment he put onto these people. So you questioning anything the authority says or the establishment says is you’re Alex Jones and you’re a dick too. Like that’s how I kind of, that’s what I took from it. Well, so they make a very specific claim at the very end of this movie talking about the damage that he did.

And they have a statistic and they said that 24% of the country when polled said that they believe Sandy Hook was either staged or possibly staged. That is one in four people, which blew my mind a little bit that that actually got to that level. And I’ve seen the same leverages made against QAnon and some of like the Adrenochrome claims of today that, you know, at a certain point, once the media and once the government, they realize how much of the public is being influenced by some of these claims, they decide to act in these very drastic ways.

Like they have to actually make a point of it to either scare you away from questioning it this much or to just, I guess, re. Establish credit in the normal mainstream media that they’ve got a little bit more control over. And yes, my bias is showing a little bit in this. But I also noticed, you know, what they did not show at all in this entire documentary. They didn’t show Alex Jones being prophetic about Police State 2000. They didn’t show him breaking into Bohemian Grove. And some of what used to be considered these crazy wackadoo claims end up being true.

Like he’s. He’s been proven to right enough times that now when he makes these claims, when they say, oh, there’s no way that. That you didn’t know that this wasn’t the case. I don’t know. Alex Jones also makes a few claims in here. Like he lost touch with reality, that he got into places where he didn’t think anything was real anymore and that he thought his own friends and his family, maybe they were spying on him or they were in on it. Like, he actually starts to disclose some of these paranoid facets that I assume you’d have to get into if you rise to the level of Alex Jones and live in this Alex Jones world.

And he kind of says, like, when the. So much of the government is lies, my default is to think that it’s fake. Like, anytime any tragedy happens, his initial default is like, okay, this is a false flag. Now let’s work it from there. And I. I don’t know, I can kind of see that, like, Alex Jones would not be the guy he is if he didn’t start with that premise. But now we’re learning that you don’t say that part out loud. Foreign treasures and overboard moments. For me, the main hidden treasure for this was the human side of Alex Jones.

I think we got more in depth of who Alex Jones really is. Like, I know there’s. You’re seeing the character they show some of it where he’s on his infowars or if he’s in front of the cameras. But you got to see the compassion, compassionate human he really is and that he is a character. So I. They don’t really discuss this in the film. And. And this is coming for me, watching Alex Jones, a huge portion of My life, you know what I mean? I. I could. Couldn’t deny how much influence he had on me because he had so much stuff.

Like you said, the police state, Bohemian Grove, and even like when, you know, the Bilderberg Group, when he goes into their end games. There’s so many great documentaries and information that he has that is solid. There’s plenty of things more that we can point to. Hey, Alex Jones is telling the truth or. Or was right on than he was wrong on. Now, May. I’m with you. I think he made a major mistake in running with this narrative, but it humanized it for me when he was confessing, not only apologizing, and they have a moment where one of the parents comes over and sees that he has like something with his larynx.

I think he tore it or something like that. And she gives him a cough drop and some water and he’s trying to talk to her and. And he’s just really being compassionate. You could tell that he’s like, I know, like I’m a dick. Like I’m just. Was trying to make money. And I was like, he didn’t really understand the impact it was having on these people. And he actually saw. But then the lawyers, which I personally, the lawyers and the judge, they make me so mad during this whole film that I’ll get to that in a little bit.

But he comes and cuts him off. We’re not doing this. We’re not doing this. When he had a good compassionate moment where they could actually have dialogue and they could have had some understanding. The. The cocky lawyers that. Who really took this case for their own bravado and peacocking kind of interfere. But I thought we got a insight of Alex Jones, the real Alex Jones, and that he is more of a heartfelt person than people might think. And I don’t think they intended that in the film, but since I’ve watched a lot of Alex Jones interviews and stuff through times, I kind of saw that in it.

There might be a little of your bias seeping into that because. Because I can also tell. I had a similar one where some of the treasures here is you get a little bit of a background on Alex Jones. They show 1997 footage of him doing his public access channel, like stabbing a jack o’ lantern on Halloween. And like, dude, like. And they show very specific clips of him because they’re crafting a very obvious narrative. And some of those clips are him also shouting about 911 being an inside job. And I understand that the context in this documentary is that look at him profiting off of a tragedy.

Look at him just firing off at the hip saying, oh, it’s a false flag. And the government up again like the. The tinfoil hat that is planted firmly on my head. I also believe 911 was an inside job. So when they show that part, it’s like, man, but if, if he’s right about some of these things that everyone was like, no way, that, that can’t be right. That’s just conspiracy theory drivel. Now it almost softens the blow when even if he’s way wrong, even if he’s just capitalizing on something, he kind of gets a. I don’t know how to say this in a better way.

He kind of gets a pass to exploit tragedy because of how often he did it for the right reasons versus this time. Clearly it seemed like it was for the wrong reasons. And that was also like one of the hidden treasures for me is, is very non sympathetic to Alex Jones. And it was that part where they interview his past co workers and they’re basically telling the camera about the way that it would work for Alex Jones. And that’s that if he was hot on a certain story, all he wanted from you were things that were confirming his story.

And then if you found something that went against that or kind of took the wind out of the sails, that he would get angry at you. And that over time you learn like, oh, he just wants to be reinforced with whatever thing that he’s chasing. That, that part. And also that when he was doing his regular daily infowars show, that there was no prep, there was no, okay, here’s the agenda for today. It was just Alex sits down in the seat, the camera turns on and he’s on, and someone hands him a stack of papers with headlines and he just reads them and he just goes off the cuff Again, better or worse.

Because now he pulls up some false flag story and he’ll just read the headline and then pontificate about it as if he had done all this research and he’s got all this information and really, you see it’s just a headline. And then it’s just him playing this WWE character to kind of like get you riled up over this headline. So, so far removed from Police State 2000, where he’s the one on the ground, he’s the one getting the interview. And if anyone’s being provocative, it’s him provoking the police that he is interviewing as opposed to him talking directly to this viewer so far removed from the actual, I guess, like, journalism that’s.

That’s occurring. So it. It kind of does let you see how far, I guess he had fallen from his. His kind of peak performance in the late 90s. And for me, the overboard moments is one. The emotional manipulation throughout the film, like, the first 20 minutes is really just like, setting the tone of, like, so you can hate Alex Jones. They go through the whole Sandy Hook timeline of what happened. What, you know, the parent. I was just taking him to school, and, like, I knew I shouldn’t have took them that day, like, where they’re storyboarding it to where you’re about to be like, oh, I’m about to hate Alex.

Because since we already know the outcome, you’re like, oh, they’re preparing you to really hate him because they’re laying it on thick with the emotional manipulation. My other part is that this is a trial, and these parents are trying to prove that Alex Jones is telling one, that he’s purposely telling lies, which he says that he believed it. And I’m like, how is he lying if he truly believed it? Right. He can be wrong. That’s why I hate when people say, oh, it’s a false claim. No, it was a claim. Now, you might not agree with the claim, but it’s not a false claim.

There’s no such thing as a false claim. It’s just a claim that is made. You’re adding the false most part to, like, kind of get people on your side. And the other part that really got to me is like, what are you proving? You didn’t disprove anything that he said, like, besides, like, oh, yeah, that was really my son. Where was more information that you could prove, like, hey, look, he was wrong about this. This actually happened. They really didn’t try to be transparent with us, which is the problem, like you mentioned earlier, is he’s like, hey, the government lies to us all the time.

Why wouldn’t they be lying to us again? Now I am under the thing, too is that I think Alex Jones kind of took it way too far for 10 years of, like, really hammering home. But it really misses for me, where you’re like, hey, we’re trying to prove this guy wrong, but we’re not going to show you any information to prove that he was wrong other than, hey, here’s this parent believe their story. I. I got a little bit of a different take on. On that particular part of this, because there are a couple claims that they juxtapose.

Here’s Alex making the claim, and now here are the parents or the, the prosecution responding to that claim, which again, like the editing is like they decide to show certain clips and then they can explain it. But it, it makes for great points in this documentary’s point of view. For example, one of the things that Alex Jones kept harping on about is this 99.9 kill rate. And he was basically saying, you know, even the most trained military, professional assassin, sniper doesn’t have the same kill rate, the same, you know, percentage of bullets shot or like the number of survivors versus this one school shooting.

And then they clip to one of the parents kind of explaining this and it’s like, yeah, well, when you stick like 15 kids in a tiny little bathroom and you’re just shooting them at point blank range with a rifle, yeah, you’re probably going to have a 99.9 kill rate. It doesn’t, you don’t have to be a marksman in order to like, you know, massacre 12 kids that are locked inside of us a small little room, a room that was so small that they claimed that when they went in to investigate after the shooting, they thought there were just bodies piled up in a corner.

They didn’t even realize they were in a bathroom because it was completely filled. So that was one and then the other one too that they were harping on. Of course, the, the fact that it was this false flag operation and no one actually died because where were the trauma helicopters? How come they didn’t have helicopters coming in and bringing people out to the hospitals? And you know, if, if there were children hurt, why wouldn’t you pull out all the stops? And then they go back to one of the responses and like, you don’t send in trauma helicopters for dead bodies.

Like, if you know for a fact that this person did not survive, there’s no reason to load them onto a helicopter and then bring them to a hospital just for them to be cleared dead a second time in a different location. So some of the things that Alex Jones for 10 years was very, very harsh and harping on over and over, they had very reasonable explanations. So, I mean, in some of those cases, although this, the same overboard moment for me was the one that you mentioned is the, the very obvious emotional manipulation where before we even get into any of the Alex Jones stuff, here’s 20 minutes of very hard to watch footage of parents crying about I shouldn’t have sent my head.

And he was like, I would have sent my kid to school except they were making gingerbread that day. And man, I think every day, what if I had just Told them, forget the gingerbread house. I gotta have my kid here with me. And we’d be, you know, hugging and he’d be this old, and he was my best friend. And that was legitimately hard to watch. Not in a, a bad way, like, oh, what a horrible documentary. But man, it’s just, it’s heart wrenching to see these parents and then they immediately will clip through some Alex Jones shouting about 9, 11.

So even if you’re gonna be emotionally manipulative, which I think you can and should do in documentaries, they didn’t do it with enough grace that it wasn’t jarring to me because maybe I was looking out for it, but it just felt like, oh man, they’re really gonna take 20 minutes of these, like four or five parents just crying and talking about their kids. And now we’re just gonna emotionally dump that onto the next segment about Alex Jones. I mean, obviously that’s what the documentary was, but it lacked any sort of objectivity. In that case. This was not a make up your own mind.

This was, here’s how the story goes and here’s why you should believe that everything turned out this way. Foreign the waters with a deep dive. For me, the deep dive I kind of went into. It’s one part that really upset me was like, with the lawyers and the judge, which they seem super biased. It seemed like, like I said earlier, peacocking that people were trying to make a name for themselves is the default judgment. Right? I, I thought that, that really upset me and I thought, what is a default judgment? And they, they talk about it.

When I googled it, it says a default defendant fails to file an answer to a complaint within a required time. A defendant fails to appear in court for a scheduled hearing. A defendant fails to respond on a summons or complaint. I kept looking for more of it. And they said because he didn’t comply with discovery and which maybe he didn’t, I don’t know. And again, some of this is my bias shining through, right? Like, I, it’s hard because I really tried to be unbiased, but man, I hated that judge and those lawyers so much, man, they made me so angry.

So I felt like. It just felt like a mockery trial. Like if they were just trying to make an example. And through the whole film, I felt that they were just trying to be like, hey, don’t question things. Yes, Alex was completely wrong. I, I disagree with his approach to it, but it just felt like they were just trying to set precedent so that in future, like me and you can have a, a conversation about some alchemy stuff, right? Or, or 911 or, or Oklahoma City bombing. It just felt like they were trying to shut the door on questioning legacy media and the establishment narrative.

And that default sentencing really did not sit well with me, especially from when I read. Again, I’m not a, a lawler, a scholar in law, but I didn’t find anything that proved that it should have been a default hearing. Well, the way that they, they do a horrible job of explaining it in this documentary. But one of the reasons for the default is because he was refusing to turn over his text messages. In particular, they would ask him, hey, you know, if you search your text messages, is there anything there about Sandy Hook? And he’s like, oh, no, I searched and I, I didn’t find it.

And. But then the, the lawyer phrases it, oh, so you’re saying that there is none. And Alex Jones is kind of agreeing, but I guess in a, in a subjective way, it’s. There’s a difference between looking, finding it and then lying about finding it versus looking and not finding it and saying, hey, I didn’t find any, versus it’s not on this phone. And then the lawyers get their hands on Alex Jones’s actual text messages and they find all of the things that he claimed that he was unable to find on his own. And they don’t really show this version of the edit.

I don’t even know if Alex Jones even made this case, but it would almost be like if you’re, if you got your grandpa’s phone and he’s got a million text messages on it, and you’re like, hey, Grandpa, can you search your text messages and let me know if this particular topic ever came up? And he comes back and he’s like, I searched, but I didn’t find anything. That doesn’t necessarily mean it’s not on there. It just means that grandpa doesn’t know how to search through a million different messages on his phone. And again, this is not the case that Alex Jones presents anywhere in this.

But the way that they asked the question and then the way that they make it seem as though he was intentionally lying about it, I personally don’t find that hard to believe. I actually believe that he probably did know that there were messages on his phone about this thing and that since they didn’t originally have his, his text messages, then they couldn’t have known about it unless he kind of incriminated himself in a way. So that was the reason, I believe, for the default judgment was that Particular dynamic maybe times 100. Because there’s probably a whole bunch of different instances in which they ask him to turn over some sort of information discovery.

And he foots around a little bit. He kind of plays dumb. The same way if you go back to the. The Police State 2000, where he’s interviewing a cop and he’s like, what do you know about the snipers on the roof? And the guy’s like, I don’t know about no snipers on a roof. And they’re literally showing you footage of snipers on the roof. This is Alex Jones doing that exact same thing now, where they’re like, hey, Alex, how about these text messages about Sandy Hook? What text? I never sent a text message about. So I think that that was part of the reason for the default.

And another important aspect of this documentary is that it doesn’t really cover the court case leading up to that default judgment. What it does is it follows the court case of after that default judgment happens. Now, the only reason he’s even in court is just to see how much money he now owes for losing his, his day in court because he defaulted on it. Right? It’s the same like if you default on your loans, it’s like if you just don’t pay your loans for long enough, they default. No. Now the guy, the repo man, comes and takes your stuff.

It’s literally what this, this case is. We’re seeing the repo man show up and take all of Alex Jones’s stuff. Ripples and waves, historical and cultural impact. I mean, it’s crazy. It’s almost, I think for our side, it’s like taking down a hero, right? Like, it was like, damn, they’re trying to take him. You know what I mean? Like, you’re, you’re trying to push him off that pedestal. And it’s almost like, hey, you got this wrong. And you were, you were wrong about this for 10 years. Everything that you ever came out with is now wrong.

And, and you’re, you’re no longer the, the, you’re the face of misinformation and disinformation. They, they use that in the film quite a bit, those two terms. And it, it, it, you know, it kind of was like, for me, like, I understood, like, because I disagreed always on what Alex’s stance was. I’m not going to explain thoroughly my extent, my stance on what I think Sandy Hook was or, or it wasn’t, but I’ve disagreed with him. And I just could see, think that Alex got lost in the character Alex Jones, right? Like, he. He at this point was a huge, mega independent artist.

Pretty much he’s like the Tech nine of conspiracy world, where he kind of made his own platform from nothing. Like, nobody was creating for, you know, avenues for him. He wasn’t getting on local tv. Like, he was just this huge figure that got so polarized. And I think just knowing a little about him, you know, his alcoholic history and stuff like that, I think that played a part in his sensationalism over this incident and that he would just kind of go off the cuff and just play this character and maybe for better or worse, you know, saying the wrong things and leading people down the wrong path.

But he’s just, at that point was like, hey, I have this business to run and this works and people are coming to you. And like, hey, look, every time he’s talking about this, we’re getting a spike. And, you know, it’s business. So I can see it from all angles. I feel sympathy for the parents and stuff, but really the social impact of this was, to me, to really put those words misinformation and disinformation, which they kind of concluded as if it’s not part of the mainstream narrative. I feel like the documentary itself maybe doesn’t have any really, ripples and waves on its own.

Like, it. You’re. If you’re anti Alex Jones and you watch it, you’re still going to be anti. If you’re pro Alex Jones and you watch it, maybe you’ll get a little extra nuance, but it’s not changing your entire mind about the entire thing. The ripples and waves are really. That this was a monumental court case because. And they’re not trans. They’re. They are very transparent about this, that the end result of this was to set a new precedent. This is like the new world order of media, that this is going to set the new landscape for how information gets portrayed.

And they’re saying, like, let’s punitively damage this guy in such a way that he can’t just go off the cuff anymore. Because part of Alex Jones doing this for 10 years, whether he knew it or not, and exploiting this was just because you can. Like, no, like, what, are they going to sue me? No one’s ever been sued for just making stuff up before. I’m allowed to just make stuff up. And this kind of unequivocally shows like, no, I guess you can’t. This is. This changed that dynamic. So now someone can’t be like, what are they going to do? Sue Me, now you can be like, bro, you ever see what happened to Alex Jones? Like that, that sets the example of the, like the extreme.

If you take it to such a distant extreme, here’s what can happen. Here’s the example being made of Alex Jones. And, and I, and I have to say too, it does hurt his credibility. Like if, if you hadn’t heard of Alex Jones until Sandy Hook and then you go and you watch this documentary, you just look into the whole debacle of 10 years of Sandy Hook and how it affected Alex Jones, now you might not care about police state 2000 or care about him infiltrating Bohemian Grove because he does come across as an absolute fear pushing grifter that is just literally lying to you and selling you supplements, which is on like the tail end of his character arc, I think.

Right. And, but it, but it does. And it’s Alex Jones doing it. It’s not the documentary doing it. It’s Alex Jones destroying his own credibility in such a, in a irrecoverable way that it’s kind of fascinating to just see that in context from the other side. About that time, man. Think or swim moment. What you got, man? This one is really, really hard. I actually, I haven’t even come up with a good answer for Sinker Swim. I, I’ll have to say sync only because it didn’t really present anything new. It, it was very emotionally charged. But in all the other documentaries, the ones that I tend to rate high, it’s when they reveal some new mind blowing information that I just didn’t get before and is going to change the way that I kind of perceive the world.

This one didn’t really do that. Like, I absolutely feel for the parents. I agree that Alex Jones likely profited off of trauma and this, this tragic experience for all these people involved and probably even did it knowingly. He kind of like fanned these flames because he didn’t think it was illegal to do so. He didn’t think that there was going to be a ramification for it. So I get the point of view, but it’s not the documentary that did that to me. It’s just being a regular human being, I guess that does believe some of the mainstream media narrative, for example, that Sandy Hook was not all holograms or a ten year crisis act play in the process.

So I kind of believe the, the regular consensus, objective reality of this and that this absolutely kind of damaged his credibility. So overall a sync for the documentary itself. But I don’t necessarily disagree with a Whole lot of the. The claims that get brought up because this is just a regular court case. And it’s a sync for me as well. A lot of it had to do because I, too, had compassion for the parents. I understood why they would be upset. And I’ve seen people, and I know people that, like, will say everything’s a hoax or everything’s holograms or everything’s crisis actors.

And I really always despise that narrative because I, I, hey, show me some kind of evidence. You can have speculation, you could speculate. But when people speak in absolutes of like, this absolutely happened. But the reason it’s a sync for me is the prosecutors are just as bad, man. Like, they’re just sensationalizing it. There’s some showboating shot like, oh, we’re gonna get him. We’re gonna nail him to the cross. Like, they’re not trying to really do anything except make a name for themselves. Even the judge, she kind of just like, keeps interjecting, and there’s no nuance to it.

It’s just like, oh, you either believe the mainstream narrative or, or. Or you believe this crazy conspiracy that, that it was a hoax. When there’s, like, this nuance, right? There’s this middle ground that they don’t want you to even explore, and they almost push you to the brink of. Like you said, you’re either a conspiracy person that believes that the narrative is different, or you’re just a regular person, a good person, and you believe the narrative we’re telling you. But when I don’t necessarily believe either narrative, I’m more in the middle, and I have my own thoughts on it.

And they kind of feel like they’re trying to push people like me out of that to question. Like, don’t question us. This is what happened. That’s it. It’s kind of like the 911 Commission Report, right? Here you go. I know you don’t like it, but that’s what it is. And even though I think Alex was wrong and he was way overboard, and I think he was financially motivated and he thought that he couldn’t get in trouble for this, I still think it’s a sink because the prosecutors really, really did a horrible job. And you can tell their bias.

And it almost felt like, oh, they’re doing this case for publicity, right? They’re trying to. They’re now going to be a top law firm that we took down Alex Jones, and we got them paid so we could get you paid too. Like, that’s the kind of feel Cheesy lawyer thing that I felt of it. I mean, you gotta know the second that that judge walks into the courtroom, you’re like, oh, my God, this is not gonna go well for Alex Jones. Like, she’s got a full mustache. She’s got the turquoise earrings on. Like, I’m not. I’m not saying, like, judge a book by its cover, but the second she walks in, you know that this is not gonna go Alex’s way.

And. And again, just to stress this fact that the prosecutor in. In the footage we see in this documentary, they’re. They’ve already found Alex Jones guilty of all of this. So all of the court proceedings and the parents crying and all these claims are just how much money are they going to get out of him for punitive damages? So it’s. It’s already a settled fact that he lied and he, you know, he was actually culpable for all of these different, you know, issues that he put these parents through. Now it’s just, how much money does he have to pay up for it? So, of course, all that grandstanding and all of, like, the bias, because they’ve already won.

Like, how. You would have to be. You’d have to be biased if you’re acting as prosecutor, knowing that you’ve already won your case and now you’re just pleading as to, like, how much of your case did you win? Of course you’re going to be sniffing your own farts through the whole entire process. And one point I wanted to bring up, too, that I forgot to mention about the film. And we were talking about when he kind of like, bates, Alex, in saying, like, oh, you didn’t give us the text messages, but we got him from your lawyer.

And he did. He did on accident, sent it to us. If you look at the lawyer’s body language, he looks at him like, no, I gave those to you. So I don’t know how much, like, if that. How much was true of what they were saying, but I think it was so sensationalized, and they. They made it about them. The lawyers made it about them instead of actually like, hey, this is what happened. We’re trying to expose what really happened. No, you didn’t care. They just wanted to make him look like a fool. Any aspect they could get.

Well, and also, this is kind of telling, but at the end, they interview Alex Jones’s lawyer, and they’re like, well, how do you think the court case went? And he kind of says, like, obviously, you know what? We weren’t happy to have lost, but It’s a manageable number. And it was just like, damn, bro. So even after all of this, the lawyer is basically saying like, oh, we were actually planning for this to go even worse than it already did, despite everything that you’ve just seen. So it, it doesn’t seem like the lesson was learned. And I guess proof is in the pudding, right? Like, Alex Jones still has a platform.

He might have been blacklisted off of almost every other big social media platform, but he still has his website. It’s still operating. They actually note that in the final credits of this documentary. It’s like he’s. Alex Jones is still at large today. He’s out there peddling this garbage in the world right this very second. They kind of make that, that point on the horizon. What do we got up next? We’re gonna watch one of the best documentarians in all of human history. Nothing but just pure fire, straight objective facts. No more bias. We’re getting beyond all the bias and we’re going directly to Michael Moore.

People are gonna love it. Hey, what better way from going to Alex Jones to Michael Moore, right? That’s like almost the opposite side of the spectrums when you’re looking at like politically wise. I feel like we’re gonna get a nice like rounded view on the different takes of, I guess, political documentaries being injected into pop culture from two very opposing viewpoints. On this one, I agree. Well, I think it’s about that time a lot of it’s a hoax. It’s a hoax. I mean, it’s a money making industry. Okay, Peace of the shots. American stickers. Cryptids, cults and Killers.

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