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Joe Rogan just had Diana Walsh Pasolka, a writer and professor of religious studies at the University of North Carolina, Wilmington, on his podcast. And in their conversation, they look at the alien abduction and UFO phenomenon through a spiritual lens. They are the things that are being described in Ezekiel. You are literally dealing with angels and demons. Joe Rogan has been more open recently to spiritual concepts where in the past, he was very against them.
But even recently, referencing and reading the Bible and prophecies on his podcast, in this conversation, they look at the possibility of fallen angels, demons, interdimensional beings, and we can even see through some of the things they say that this all fits together with end times prophecy and what’s going to happen in the coming last days. The fact that this phenomenon is connected to spirituality in one way or another is undeniable.
They look at this in a few ways. They reference at one point that ritual protocols are done through some of the space agencies. Even one of the high up members within the space force and the government that Diana has contact with said that he would do different types of protocols, like not having much interaction with other people, working out extensively, things like this. In my opinion, ritualistic type of practices to get information from a different source, higher than himself to use in the space force.
So he would have an idea that he would get through these protocols that I told you about. So he practices these protocols. But so this guy was put into another mental state. And during this mental state, he said that he could receive calculations, he could receive information, he could receive things, and then he could gather a group of scientists, and he wouldn’t tell them where he came from, because he honestly thought they were coming from these things outside of space time, kind of like ets or something off planet intelligences.
This reminded me of the Babylon working Jack Parsons doing this ritual in the desert, who had a lot to do with helping NASA create rockets and propulsion. And he was massively involved in the occult, as well as advancing technology with NASA. The connection between spirituality and these extraterrestrial beings or encounters also ties back to the Vatican. For years, they’ve had observatories and have been doing a lot with space.
And Diana was even invited to go to the Vatican Observatory. Well, we went to the Vatican archive, which is hard to get into, but I could get into it. And we also went to the space Observatory archive, which most people don’t even know that the Vatican has a space observatory. Some of the astronomical work that the Vatican has done was done at Mount Graham with their telescope that’s referenced as Lucifer.
Even Pope Francis said in 2014 that he would definitely baptize aliens if they asked him to. Joe Rogan references that when he’s done DMT, it’s taken him to another realm where he encounters these entities. Some call them machine elves. And these things work on people. He says they worked on him, changed him. This is a very spiritual experience for many people, and they both make the connection here, thinking that these spiritual experiences with DMT or other ways are connected to these alien abductions.
Well, I’d already had a lot of experiences with DMT, right? So I already knew. I knew there’s a realm accessible to anybody that gets in contact with that stuff that is beyond imagination. It is more real than reality. And a recognition like, oh, I know this place. I’ve been here. I’m here all the time. I know these things. I know these beings. These beings are truth. They’re something from somewhere else, somewhere that’s probably around us all the time, that’s influencing us all the time.
Very enlightened, bizarre creatures that contact you, and they seem to know what’s wrong with me right away, and they seem to also work on you. There’s this bizarre feeling, like they’re like, let me get in there and fix your wires. Well, that, of course, sounds like the abduction. Yes, very similar to the abduction experience. I think they’re all connected. I really do. Diana points out that she believes that some of these spiritual experiences that Catholics have had in the past, apparitions with Mary or these types of huge supernatural events, have been documented through history, that this is tied to whatever this phenomenon is, once again, linking this alien and UFO phenomenon to a spiritual aspect, which, in the end, it won’t be good, because these things are not good.
And they most likely play into the end times, deception, the stages of artificial intelligence, and that there’s these multiple stages, artificial general intelligence, sentient general intelligence, and then it goes to godlike artificial intelligence. But that is. Is that what God is? And is that what we’re doing? Are we making God? If God made us in his own image, are we making God? Is that what this whole thing is? You know, these are some of the questions that I have when I go back to looking at some of the characteristics of these, like the Virgin Mary sightings and things like that.
We now have technologies that can replicate what it seems like was happening during that event in Garabindal in Spain in the 1960s. And if that’s the case, then it looks like Stephen’s idea of the intelligence principle is correct. When he says that there will be intelligent beings that will appear like deities to us. Diana believes that this phenomenon seems to be from some sort of interdimensional beings coming from their reality into ours.
What do you think the physical objects are? Well, okay, so this is something that’s very interesting. We just looked at the shroud of Turin. I believe that there are these, I would call them, and this is just my own non scientific term, interdimensional objects. They’re objects that have characteristics of our dimension and at some other dimension. So some other dimension has the capability, or something from some other dimension has the capability of transporting a physical object into our realm or even imprinting onto a physical object.
According to the Bible, we know that angels do come to and fro, or back and forth from their realm, into our realm. And Jacob had a dream about a ladder that rested on the earth, with its top reaching up to heaven, and God’s angels were going up and down the ladder. In the Book of Job, God reveals to us that Satan goes to and fro on the earth.
The Lord said to Satan, where have you come from? Satan answered the Lord, from roaming throughout the earth, going back and forth on it. What do we see with the UFO and the abduction phenomenon? These things are coming in and out of our reality or to and fro our reality, just like Satan says he does. Joe Rogan brings up the concept to Diana that these beings could be tied to fallen angels or demons.
And let’s pray and hope that Joe’s eyes are open to this truth and to the truth of the Bible. So that leads us to one of the most fascinating interpretations of what we’re experiencing collectively when it comes to this UFO, Uap, whatever it is phenomenon, that this is not a thing from another planet that comes on a spaceship and lands here to show us how to do things correctly, but that they’ve always been here, and that they are the things that are being described in Ezekiel, that they are a phenomenon that is both here and not here at the same time, that you are literally dealing with angels and demons.
This phenomenon is connected to these ancient stories of religion, and it’s not as simple as other beings like us from somewhere else. Just like the fall of Satan and the fallen angels told to us in Genesis 64. I believe that’s what happened in the beginning. It crafted the false religions of the past, and it is coming back in the days that we are in again. And this reality is becoming known to people more and more.
We know in the Book of Revelation, when the Antichrist and the false prophet come on the scene that they are such strange and unique beings that all the world will marvel after them. And I saw one of his heads as if it had been mortally wounded, and his deadly wound was healed, and all the world marveled and followed the beast. Inherently, people know good and evil, right and wrong, and we can see that the actions of these beings are entirely evil.
So it’s pretty easy for me to believe and see that these are evil, spiritual beings. And even Joe and Diana come to this same agreement. Big bookcases of these books. And of course, I was drawn to them. And he said, he picked out one, and he opened it, and it was about angels. And he said, this is a book about angels. And I could see that. And I was looking at it.
I was like, wow. And then I looked at the other bookshelf, and that bookshelf was just as impressive. And then it was about fallen angels. He said, oh, this one’s about fallen angels. And then he made a joke, and he said, you can’t have one without the other. And, yeah, I thought that was really interesting. That does seem to align with what we’re talking about, with the struggle of good and evil.
Now, we’ll look at the part of this conversation and see how this can tie into the end times deception, how this alien phenomenon will unite the world in one way or another through a false alien messiah or through a revelation of these things where they make everyone question religion. And only a certain remnant whose names are written in the lamb’s book of life will not be deceived by this deception is because I just don’t think that it’s going to be a secret for very much longer.
And, in fact, right now, Chinese are going into space, and they are looking at things. So from a national security standpoint, it’s important to sort of move this conversation further, accelerate it, I think. So here we see them echoing what Ronald Reagan said to the UN, that an alien threat or just revelation of these aliens would unite all the world. And what do we know will be the one time, really, that all the world is united.
It’s under the Antichrist rule and his fallen deceptions. And here we’ll look at what Joe Rogan says. And it’s the most important aspect of this whole conversation. I often struggle with the concept that the human mind is incapable of grasping the truth, that even if it was presented to us, we don’t have the capability to truly incorporate it into our not just worldview, but universe view, life view, existence view.
While the truth was actually physically presented to us at one point in history. And it’s when Pilate held Jesus in front of his condemning crowd before he went to the cross. And that conversation went something like this. Jesus answered, my kingdom is not of this world. Pilate therefore said to him, are you a king? Then Jesus answered, you say rightly that I am a king. For this cause I was born, and for this cause I have come into the world that I should bear witness to the truth.
Everyone who is of the truth hears my voice. Pilate said to him, what is truth? Jesus Christ is the truth. He’s the savior of the world. He’s how to get communication with God, unity with God, and most importantly, a full life with him here, and eternal life with him in heaven. It’s undeniable, in my opinion, this is a spiritual aspect going on to this UFO alien phenomenon. People rebuke these demons in Jesus name, who has all authority, and these things leave, or people who give their lives to the Lord Jesus.
These entities stop harassing them, appearing to them and coming in the night. And this is all done through the truth. Jesus Christ. I’m glad to see Joe Rogan more open to spirituality and spiritual concepts. And I hope and pray that him and everyone watching this video and looking into these things will see the spiritual aspect of this whole thing and will trust in the one who has authority over everything in heaven and in earth and in all spiritual realms.
And that is the truth. The Lord Jesus Christ. I hope and pray you’re well. Thanks for watching and God bless. .