Summary
➡ The text discusses various conspiracy theories and connections between prominent figures, such as Howard Hughes, Donald Trump, and the Mormon Church, with the development of Las Vegas. It suggests that despite their religious beliefs, Mormons were heavily involved in the city’s growth due to their investments. The text also touches on the influence of the mafia, particularly Jewish mafia, in Las Vegas’ history. Lastly, it mentions the withholding of certain JFK documents by the Trump and Biden administrations, sparking further conspiracy theories.
➡ The text discusses various conspiracy theories and connections between different events and figures, such as the relationship between infamous criminals like Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer, and certain institutions or groups. It also delves into the idea of hidden meanings in art and numbers, and speculates about artificial intelligence and the possibility of a controlled reality. The conversation ends with a discussion about the potential significance of dolphins in relation to aliens and government experiments.
➡ The text discusses a TV show based on aliens, specifically focusing on the concept of a xenomorph breeding with a human. The conversation also touches on the idea of black goo, which is seen as a type of AI tech that allows entities to travel between worlds. The text also mentions a new movie called “The Crow” and discusses the symbolism of a white horse. Lastly, the text delves into Freemasonry and its influence on the Mormon church.
➡ Joseph Smith, the founder of Mormonism, was in jail for treason and was rumored to be rescued by the Nauvoo Legion, a large Mormon military unit. The local militia, the Carthage Grays, decided to take justice into their own hands and killed Smith before the rescue could happen. The discussion then shifts to various conspiracy theories, occult symbolism in Mormonism, and the hosts’ various projects and channels.
➡ The speaker discusses various topics, including his experiences with Mormonism, atheism, and his journey to sobriety. He also talks about his fascination with aliens and demons, and shares a story about a man who owns evidence from the Ted Bundy case. The speaker also mentions changes to Mormon temple rituals and promotes his podcast, Hellfire Agency.
➡ The speaker discusses posting a video on Rumble, a platform where they’ve been doing movie breakdowns without any issues. They also mention a group trying to save the Mormon church from being overtaken by modern ideologies. The conversation evolves into a debate about religion, with the speaker expressing interest in participating in debates about early Christianity and Mormonism. The discussion ends with a promotion for conspiracy cards and propaganda packs from Paranoid American.
➡ The text discusses the complex history and controversies surrounding the Mormon church, its leaders, and their involvement in various businesses and political events. It mentions Brigham Young’s contradictory stance on alcohol and his business ventures, including a failed vineyard and alleged involvement in brothels. The text also explores the connections between the Mormon church, Mitt Romney, and the Bank of Las Vegas, suggesting possible conflicts within the Republican party. Lastly, it hints at potential links between the Mormon church and various conspiracy theories, including the Watergate scandal and the so-called “Mormon Mafia.”
➡ The text discusses various conspiracy theories, scandals, and speculations involving figures like Levitt, Tim Ballard, and the Freemasons. It also touches on symbolism in the Mormon church and its connection to Freemasonry. The conversation veers into topics like the Italian mafia’s alleged connection with Freemasonry and the CIA, and the influence of these organizations on society.
➡ The discussion revolves around various conspiracy theories, including the influence of the Vatican Bank, Mother Teresa’s controversial actions, and the secretive nature of those who truly hold power. It also touches on the recent financial losses of Twitter since Elon Musk took over, and the mysterious group of investors behind the purchase. The conversation ends with a mention of Musk’s alleged purchase of a Mormon Temple, the Kirtland Temple in Ohio.
➡ Elon Musk has bought the Kirtland Temple and its museum. There are rumors about various connections and conspiracies involving Musk, Jared Birchall, and the Rotary Club. There’s also a discussion about the influence of religious institutions and their potential involvement in various conspiracies. The conversation ends with a debate about the role of religion and its potential for corruption.
➡ The text discusses various conspiracy theories, the influence of power and money, and the impact of technology on society. It also touches on the role of politics, the rise of artificial intelligence, and the influence of online content on people’s behavior. The speakers express their concerns about the future, referencing societal changes they’ve observed in countries like China and Japan. They also discuss the influence of ‘naughty’ websites on society, and the potential consequences of censorship.
➡ The text discusses various individuals and their connections to different religious institutions, particularly the Mormon church. It mentions how some people were expelled from the church, possibly due to controversial actions that could harm the church’s image. The text also touches on the influence of secret societies and mafias within religious institutions. Lastly, it highlights the potential for misinformation and deception within these groups.
➡ The speaker discusses the high recruitment of Mormons in Utah by three-letter agencies like the FBI, attributing this to their clean lifestyle and often bilingual abilities. They also discuss the manipulation tactics used by individuals like Ted Bundy and Tim Ballard to exploit people’s lack of critical thinking skills for personal gain. The speaker emphasizes the importance of critical thinking to avoid falling prey to such tactics. They also touch on the corruption at the top levels of any institution, the exploitation of ordinary working-class people, and the wealth disparity between billionaires and trillionaires.
➡ This text discusses various conspiracy theories and historical events, including the influence of powerful families like the Rockefellers and Rothschilds, the creation of the Federal Reserve, and the sinking of the Titanic. It also touches on topics like blood types, DNA manipulation, and the inefficiency of law enforcement, particularly in relation to notorious serial killer Ted Bundy. The speaker also mentions their work as a registered nurse and their interest in medical research.
Transcript
And this. This goes into Robert at a later point because they are saying that he has affiliation, if not indeed was in a three letter agency. So, I mean, I can’t prove that. But the rest of them, I can. I can prove that gay was and I can prove that Mayhew was because they both have it in their, like Wikipedia even. It’s. It’s known that they. The one was a spy and the other one was a paratrooper in. As a skier when the war happened. And so this was like a known thing. This is like all over the Internet.
So it’s not like Heidi made it up. I know I’m a conspiracy theorist, but that’s a real thing, so. And I’m trying to find. Oh, go ahead, say. Well, I just want to know. That was. Since we’re talking mafia, I had to bring in. This is what happens when you have a live stream. We’re gonna bring in another person. Tommy truthful from truth mafia, longtime friend. He is a mafia expert, at least modern day one. So here’s. There’s Tommy. Into the. Into the fray here, man. How y’all doing today? Good. How you doing? Good, good. I was just.
You know each other. This is Tommy. This is Heidi love, and this is Joe. They’re both ex moments Mormons. And Tommy’s a longtime friend. He’s deep into conspiracies. He’s probably the biggest expert that I know on Gematria and just making like, crazy connections. So you guys will be able to mention like a name or a date. And he usually can link it to a million things, like, boom. All right, sounds good. I heard you guys talking about the Mormons. Did you guys mention the order? The united Order? No, the order is. It’s called the. It’s known as the Kingston clan.
It’s like a secret. Oh, yeah. That’s a separate. These guys were mainstream, but yes, the Kingston’s. Yeah, yeah, they. I mean, the church didn’t affiliate with each like, the Kingston’s had already split from the mainstream church. So at this point, if they were doing dealings, it would have been way under. Under the radar, but I don’t think they would have, because the Kingston sink, the real regular Mormons, are going to hell. So I don’t know that they would talk to us. It’s like they’re. It’s like they’re. They’re, you know, one of their most secretive organizations. Supposed to be like the.
Kind of like the Mormon mafia, right? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, in this case, the morn mafia that we’re talking about is the Howard Hughes thing. There are different organizations that have been referred to as the Mormon Mafia, and the Kingston’s are one of them. And they’re still active. They are. They are an active and frightening group, frankly. I mean, is the mafia that we’re talking about in Vegas with, like, tangential to Frank gay? Are they still in business, too? I think. I think there may still be ties, but he should know the names.
So John Roselli of the Chicago mob and Giancana were the ones. Sam Giancana were the ones that were associated with Mayhew, and that’s how they got pulled all together to even start this whole thing. And so Sam Ghana was running it for Alcardo. He was really like an underboss to the organization of Chicago. But, you know, most people probably don’t even know who that guy is, Alcardo. Right, right. But that’s who the contacts were from Mayhew, who was a spy for the CIA. And he had had these contacts from a previous situation. He broke away from the CIA and started his own investigation group.
And the only reason why he even got brought into Howard Hughes’s life is because he thought his wife was cheating on him, even though he only spent 20 minutes a day with her. And he was super crazy. He just liked to stare at her, and then she could go on her way after 20 minutes. They didn’t live together. It was super weird. But anyway, so that’s why Mayhew even met Howard Hughes. And then this all goes from there. So, yeah, he was CIA. Yeah. And the thing is that one of. And who knows if this is true, how true it is, but it’s.
It’s one of these things that gives you pause. Even if you, like me, don’t jump for a conspiracy theory, as Heidi knows, is that one of. One of Robert Mayhew’s. I’m trying to find the guy’s name, but one of Robert Mayhew’s associates, close associates, was the one who came out and said, like, before he died, that he wanted. And there’s a video on it on YouTube somewhere. He’s like, I just wanted to say this. You. Before. Before, you know, I’m gone. He’s like, because they’ve been. The Mormon mafia has been working us out of the system this whole time.
He said, but the assassination of Bobby Kennedy was totally orchestrated by the Hughes organization, which is, like, seems strange because, like, okay, Bobby Kennedy was not popular with Hughes. Hughes is not. Was not. You know, Hughes was afraid of him, obviously, but he. By the time that happened, it was. He, you know, Hughes had basically lost. Lost his mind. He had lost all contact with reality, and it was perry and it was. And gay who were running his whole empire. So if. If they hadn’t done in, you know, is it this mormon connected group that had Bobby Kennedy done in and why? And it was Robert F.
Kennedy junior, who, in 2017, after having talked with Donald Trump about it before during his campaign, it was basically, apparently, their conversations together or some association between them that resulted in Trump promising that he was going to release the JFK files when he became president, which he released, like, I think it was 28,000 individual documents, classified documents about the JFK assassination and Bobby Kennedy, but then held back. He’s promised to do again. He’s promised to do again. He’s promising. He’s promising to do it again. He’s promising. Yeah, Robert, it’s like, why did they withhold anything from the beginning? I mean, it’s been.
Come on, guys. It’s been, you know, what’s going on for 60 years here. Mitt Romney would have never released the JFK papers because he’s totally involved. No, he’s 100% involved in it. That’s crazy. There’s too much. There’s something shady going on there. Speaker two, you guys don’t think Trump’s involved at all? You think he’s good? No. No, I think everyone’s in. No, no, I definitely think Trump’s none of them. I don’t trust none of them. Yes. Yeah, Tommy, they’re all in. If you look into their lineage, they all have ties to the noble bloodline. So, you know, it’s modern day Zionists nobility.
I don’t know about that. I have my political ideas that probably won’t me and Tommy get along. I’ve done many breakdowns on their. Their lineage. Even Trump, he can tie his lineage back all the way to Charlemagne, you know? So. Yep. To say, like, this dude is not one of the elites is crazy to even say. Well, that, that definitely. That’s crazy to say. I think you’re right about that, bro. You know that. He’s a bush. He’s a bush. Yeah, they’re all cousins, bro. This little girl did an amazing documentary on it. She’s like a eleven year old and she did it for a school project and it went crazy viral.
I think it’s got like millions of views. But she’s just a little girl. And she did the whole gene and genealogy of every us president and found out every one of them are related. Even if it’s like, yeah, Mormons are all about genealogy. That has nothing to do with racism. Yeah, but the, but the thing that was interesting about it was, you know, Mayhew revealing that, or in his associates revealing that Bobby Kennedy was potentially assassinated by the Mormons, is that the Mormons at the same time are connected deeper and deeper in with J. Edgar Hoover and the Mafia, including the guy who becomes prophet in the 1980s, Ezra Taft Benson.
And so it’s like all of that interconnects and it goes clear down to the fact that all of these men made a tremendous amount of money. The will comes into this, which it becomes the infamous Mormon will scandal. Lasts 34 years to be settled because gay, who had the most backing for the church, was like, oh no, it never happened because at this point he is over a foundation that’s a non profit and he has more power and control by saying that will isn’t real than to fight for the will for the Mormon church. And so he backs away from the church, doesn’t support that.
All these tons of money go to church, which supposedly just showed up on his doorstep of the prophet. And they just were like, no, no, it never happened because they wanted to keep what they had built. They literally built their. There would be no Vegas without Howard Hughes and there would be no Vegas without these two Mormon men. And may, and it’s interesting though that because what you to what you’re saying because like I, like I said, I don’t go for a conspiracy theory, but this is weird. I, this is weird. Okay. Is that Robert F.
Kennedy now has, junior has now endorsed Trump, right? Trump promised to release and Jeff K. Junior and Trump were supposedly friends. I mean, their pictures of them together and stuff. You mean were he still alive? They are still friends. I forgot, I forgot about the shadow government. You know, the word conspiracy was coined during the JFK thing. So it’s to anybody that thinks freely and open minded. That’s why they use that term. To make you, oh, this person’s crazy. Cause they think outside the box. So just to let you know that three of us. Me, I was talking to Joe before we started.
But, like, me, Heidi and Tommy, like, we wear conspiracy theorists as, like, a badge of honor. But I guess within the. The atheist circle, as you were described, you put it in your words, but that conspiracy theorist has a very specific negative connotation in Joe’s world. That’s crazy. I would be more into it, Joe, you know, because I’m all about people. I’m all about pointing out that, you know, anybody who’s. Who ought to be labeled a free thinker is obviously going to be cast out from mainstream society. We atheists are all about that. Most atheist organizations have been called free thinker organizations in the past.
The atheists that Hitler had done in hunted down where? The. The German Freethinkers League. I’m. I’m with you. I’m with you as far as that goes. But I’m just saying, I know that there’s some weird things out there that even guys like me, there’s. Well, one thing I will tell you, Joe, and you’re right about the conspiracy. Free truth Seeker movement is one of the most infiltrated movements with central intelligence agencies, and they flood it with a bunch of lies. So, yeah, that part of you got to be careful. Well, I do know about it. This is what I’m saying about the.
About the. But this is about. This is weird, though, is that Donald Trump had promised to release all this stuff about JFK, apparently because of his association with RFK junior, and then he released a bunch of anemic crap that doesn’t even. That doesn’t really reveal anything. It’s like, oh, okay. So everybody will go, okay. So it turns out all these JFK conspiracy theories are nuts. But then it gets mentioned at the bottom of all the media reports, there are a group of documents that they’ve withheld that the Trump administration says they’re going to release later, and they didn’t.
And now they got passed forward down to the Biden administration, and Biden shut it down. Nope, this isn’t happening. So it’s like. It’s like, wait a second. Okay, I’m not saying that that’s where the good stuff is, but that’s the stuff they didn’t release. So there’s something there that we’re not supposed to know. I’m sorry. Bush’s name is all up in there because the Bush dynasty, like, if they were pointing to Prescott Bush having any kind of responsibility whatsoever. Or even Bush senior, even though they’re both gone, the Bush dynasty wants to live on. And for that reason, I.
I could imagine these records being sealed for centuries, because the Bush dynasty doesn’t seem like it wants to go away anytime soon. There’s going to be a new wave of Bush dynasty members, right? Howard Hughes. And part of that. Howard Hughes was a part of backing the new world order idea with Bush. There is freaking paperwork out there on that. I didn’t go far into that because I would have been there all day, and I was already getting. Howard Hughes have super OCD, too? Yes. He was super nice, super nuts, and on lots of drugs. Yeah.
They said he took drugs. Yep. But here’s the thing. Tommy might have missed this. Tommy? I’m a nurse. You know, Tommy, on his, um. On his death paperwork, like, all of his autopsy stuff, said there were multiple hypodermic needles broken off in his body. You don’t do that to yourself, though. No, no, that was. Somebody did that to him. That’s crazy. Yep. A lot of them get. They took him out in 1970, they took Hughes out of Vegas on a stretcher in the dark of the night, and gay showed up two days later, and that was it.
He never came back to Vegas ever again. And Howard Hughes died. He was the one that had the ties to the mormon mafia. That your. What’s your name again? Brotherhood? Um, me? I’m Joe. Joe. Joe. Joe. I didn’t see your name up there. Sorry. But, yeah, so, um. Yeah, you don’t really hear about the Mormon connection to. To the Las Vegas. You know, you always hear, like, the. The Chicago connection or really what people don’t really know is that there’s a huge jewish connection, and all the mafia was really ran by Meyer Lansky murder, Inc. All Jews, right? The purple gang.
All Jews. They were all jewish. So some of the biggest names in the mafia. Meyer Lansky built all Havana, Cuba. He’s one of the main people. You can’t even mention Las Vegas without mentioning him, you know? And it seems like they betrayed him at the end, too, though. He tried to go back to Israel and get them to help him out, and they kind of abandoned him, you know? So I think once they’re done with you, they just kind of. Whatever. They don’t care. I’m gonna just have to take notes from you next. I don’t know anything about that, but.
But I think that’s interesting to me. I got a Mormon question for Joe and Heidi. Isn’t there some kind of like a, like a moral barrier for Mormons to be like founding Las Vegas or I. Even after it’s built right, isn’t it? Again, Mormon code to go and gamble money or even partake in pretty much anything Vegas has to offer. But not about those investments, though. And that’s where Mormons don’t get care about getting their hands dirty. Don’t touch the dice. That was the comment. You don’t do your own drugs if you’re a drug dealer. You don’t touch the dice.
And that’s why Hughes liked them so much, because he knew they wouldn’t gamble, but he knew they were going to make him money. And they did. They made him so much. So Mormons are allowed to invest money into things that are incompatible with their beliefs system. Like, not only allowed. Not only allowed to. It’s part of it. I’m sorry. Go ahead, Heidi. Oh, their tithing check was big enough. Hey, why do they use. It’s like, why do they use the eight pointed star? The Mormons, they got that. They do. They use the star of Ram. Famous.
The star of Ram fam is 100% their priesthood. It’s actually the insignia for the men’s priesthood, the milches priesthood. Tommy, I’d love to do a show with you on a bunch of symbolism. Yeah. Crazy. Yeah. Then inverted pentagrams, there’s. There’s a whole. I’m going to get into. Let me just. We’ll get crazy if we can. Right. So. But that’s why I mentioned this Robert C. Gay connection, the guy who is connected into the Mormon, the mainstream Mormon church here is that if, if the gay family, the huntsman’s, if these people, these prominent Mormon billionaire families and possibly including the Romneys, are in any way connected into the assassination of Bobby Kennedy, isn’t it interesting, then, that he worked in venture capital in Palo Alto, that he worked in.
They worked with Silicon Valley. They may have investments in everything from Facebook. I don’t know how much they. What they what? All they have invested, the number one holding for the Mormon church right now is Tesla, and their boy is Elon Musk’s. Really good. Like Jeremy Bertram. Yeah. So they should look at that. But anyways. Yeah, yeah. That’s all. It’s like, it’s a big. That’s a thing. But I will say this, as far as the continuation of Vegas, this E. Perry Thomas, the kingmaker that I mentioned, comes up again to continue Vegas, because they say that he was, and I quote from his son, Steve Wynn, was like a son to my dad.
And George Eccles was kind of my dad’s godfather. So this goes. Super Steve win. Mormon. No, no. But he was very connected to Thomas Eve Perry Thomas. The king. The king maker. Yeah, they. They came up together and, like, the. It wasn’t he the one who bought or built the Bellagio, the mirage? He built, like, all the big casinos and hotels, and he was backed 100% by E. Perry Thomas and his bank. And they were Mormons. That. Which is a Salt Lake city bank nobody talks about. Bank of Las Vegas. Yep. The bank capital. That. That guy run, that.
That dude you mentioned that. Yeah. With Romney. Yeah, yeah, Romney. Well, he was part of Merrill lynch, and it was all a bit. It was a. It’s a whole. It’s a big man. These people are everything, ain’t they? Money. Well, anything. Money. Criminals. Yeah. Here’s the thing, is that, like. Like, even Brigham Young, like, going way back there, right? Brigham Young was dead set against drinking, even though the Mormon church had its policy about not drinking alcohol. The policy was founded by an alcoholic, Joseph Smith. I’m just going to go ahead and say that. And the policy was, don’t drink alcohol that other people make.
Drink your. Make your brew your own wine, and only drink that. And only drink that. By the time they get to Utah, it start. You know, there are a lot of Mormons who drank at that time, and then. And it was Brigham Young who was against it. It was Brigham Young who was like, if you drink whiskey, you are as bad as a horse thief. And they hung horse thieves. So it’s like. And. And so from there, that. That all becomes a big part of the Mormon identity with Brigham Young. But then even Brigham Young himself, one of the first businesses he starts, he starts a vineyard in Salt Lake City.
That doesn’t work out very well because you can’t grow grapes in Salt Lake City. What the hell is the matter with you? Right? And then at the same time, you have. Brigham Young is connected into. Through various channels into the brothels that start up in Salt Lake City and the church involved in these brothels. So it’s like, yes, it’s one thing about what, you know, do what we say, not what we do, and also do what you want if we’re going to make money off of it. And so they’re very much like the jewish with the goyimous.
Like, they’re going to do what they’re going to do, but not. Not to. Not to their people, but, like, to others. Right? Like, it’s. It’s very much like that. And Tommy, you brought up jewish people and Watergate was negative. I was just saying. No, no, no. Just that it’s right. I’m going to just bring up a player. Meyer was a well known piece of the Watergate issue, and also Hughes was a huge part of the Watergate issue and why it broke down. And so there’s connections there, too. Yeah, I don’t want to smoke with them. You know what I’m saying? I don’t want, ya know, well, I’m not, I’m just stating facts, people.
I’m not against anybody. I’m just stating facts. Yep. We’re probably, probably wrong in our facts. We probably need some alternative facts. We’re probably Wikipedia. I just, so a little bit of reeducation. That company that he started as of 2023, you know, they’ve made $185 billion through that campaign capital shit. Yeah, that’s right. That’s exactly right. I mean that. Yeah. And there’s no denying it. It’s like, at the same time, though, you got this conflict between Mitt Romney and the establish and establishment Republicans and, and, or the, the MAGA crowd on, you know, on the Trump crowd because of his, supposedly, because of his positions on, when he voted to convict Trump during the impeachment hearings.
Right. But it’s like, at the same time, it’s like if these guys are all guarding secrets about what happened to the Kennedys and what happened with, what happened with Hughes in Vegas, and Trump is as involved in that as anybody. Trump owned a casino in Vegas, right? And supposedly how many, how much he actually owned? Well, that’s a question. You know, I love that he owned the Atlanta, like the Atlantis hotel, too. That’s a little rabbit hole. They said. They say the only man who ever created a house with a created casino where the House always loses.
But, but if they are all connected into it, is it really just about the impeachment hearings, is it. Or the side, the impeachment itself and the conviction? Or is there some kind of conflict going on between the Trump side of whatever this conspiracy is? If there is a conspiracy, and I’m not saying there is one, and if there is one, then I say there isn’t one. Definitely. And I’m sorry for all of this. And please, I take it all back. Please, lord, take me back. But, you know, is the bank capital crowd one side of this? And is it warring with the MAGA side of the Trump side? How, you know, what is that conflict and how much do we know about it? I don’t know and then the bigger question is, for me right now is, where does.
How does Robert F. Kennedy hold out, Robert F. Kennedy Junior, hold out so long in this election and then reluctantly endorse Trump right at the end? Reluctantly. It’s like, what. What actually is going on here? I mean, there’s. There’s something more than what we’re being told. And also, paranoid american. You mentioned the bush, or was it Tommy, whoever said the Bush problem? I do want to say one thing, George Hw Bush, through Zapata oil, made the mormon mafia, met the mormon mafia, and was leasing the islands from Howard Hughes to do CIA raids on Cuba. And that is factual.
You can google that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got to do a podcast sometime, Heidi. Yeah, I’d love to. I’m a nerd. Yeah. What do you think is behind the whole. That whole thing you just mentioned with Trump and all that? What’s your. I don’t know. Anyways, you want me. My man’s got. My man’s gonna try to rope me into promoting a conspiracy theory, actually theorize. I don’t know. It’s. It’s. Yeah. If I was. If I were to guess, I would say there is something to do with the billionaire class protecting their own. And so is it that Howard, that Howard Hughes was in, you know, was through the Mormons or through his own endeavors, somehow connected into a bunch of billionaires who are still billionaires today and still prominent today? You have the gays, you have the huntsman’s.
You have all these Mormon billionaire families. And then there was this whole. But. But the thing that really is interesting to me then, is that you remember Evan McMullen, who’s supposed to be the good Mormonization guy, right in the solstice. You remember Evan McMullen ran for president back in 2016. Yeah, I can’t picture his name. Yeah, sure. He had a little shoe. A little like the little. Well, I’m pointing to my own. But he had more of a. Yeah, he was. He was a former. If I remember right, he was a former CIA agent, considered a big patriot.
And he rose to prominence during the whole, you know, conversion from the Utah Mormons Republicans going from supporting Romney to going towards Trump. And, you know, Evan McMullen was the guy who emerges in the middle of that to say, don’t go. Don’t. Don’t support this guy. He is corrupt as. As all get out. You want somebody who is a homegrown republican Mormon hero, boy, it’s got to be Evan McMullen and somebody during that election cycle. They accused him, said, oh, this guy in the Mormon mafia, they’re such creeps. And that was the first time a lot of people had heard the term Mormon mafia.
And so all of a sudden, all of these creators in social media start saying, oh, Mormon mafia. Oh, here’s. Here we are, the Mormon mafia. We show up at your door and try to get you to keep your family together, try to build eternal families. We’re trying to. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. They tried. There was this concerted effort to take over the hashtag Mormon mafia. Anything related to the term Mormon mafia. And you guys still hear me? I lost my. I’m not. Yeah, I’m curious. When you say, like, they’re trying to take over Mormon mafia, is this the gay Mormon mafia? Gay mafia.
We’re gonna call it the gay mafia. It could very well be. That could be it. Exactly. I mean, it’s like, why are they suddenly trying to rebrand this name? Why are they trying to divert everybody’s attention away from actually googling what the Mormon mafia is like? They’re like, there’s so many things people say about Mormons, and the church has nothing, you know, just doesn’t even respond to it. They’re like, I’ll let it go. Let it die out on. So don’t feed the fire. Right. Then this Mormon mafia thing, right? No. Then the Mormon mafia thing starts trending on social media, and all of a sudden, these Mormon creators start coming up all over with, oh, yeah, the Mormon mafia will bake pies and leave them on your doorstep.
Don’t eat it, though. You know, it’s like, you know, it’s like they’re trying to sanitize this so that people. Yeah, they’re trying to take it back. That’s exactly right. Right. And then there’s SRA stories that come out and they try and link the Mormon mafia just with the SRA stories. Not that I’m saying they’re not true or whatever. That’s a different story, is all. And it’s a different family, and that’s into the Levitts situation. And. And that’s all speculation anyways, because read paper dolls and cowboy boots. Not my problem anyways. So if you want to look into that, that’s a whole different thing.
But then they’re pointing to that because Levitt went on tv and said, I’m not a cannibal. What? Like, why the hell would you do that? You’re the attorney general, you weirdo. And so now he lives in Scotland. But don’t worry, about it anyways. Oh, my gosh. That’s a whole rabbit hole. Know anything? But, like, right? Whatever happened with that whatever? I’m a dumb blonde. Like, don’t listen to me. Go look it up. Um, so here’s the thing is, they’re trying to shove it off to that because they don’t want you following the money, they don’t want you following the CIA, and they don’t want you looking this stuff up, period.
That’s what’s right. Like, it goes. Yeah. If you don’t. If you. If you. If you ever have an extra episode to do. To do a conspiracy theory, uh, story on that’s even, I am going to go, okay, that’s interesting. There’s something going on. There it is, this Levitt scandal with the guy who built. The guy who buys a spite castle in Scotland, despite the other guy, you know, who’s taken on a false identity and conned a whole bunch of Mormons out here. And it’s like this ongoing feud between these two and how they’re connected. It’s like.
Well, it’s super fast. By the way, the people in this book that I just posted, the name of that were accused of wrongdoing are the current Russell M. Nelson’s daughter and her husband. So that’s interesting. But, you know, I’m probably crazy. Whatever. Yeah, the other side. Yeah, it’s interesting that you bring that up. Okay, so the other side for me, I have a whole series on Hellfire agency called Underground, where I just go hard about Tim Ballard and Operation Underground Railroad and the corruption going on there and all the scandals that are going on there. And one of the things that I did, I haven’t released the episode on yet is this documentary put together by the Joseph Smith foundation, is the Stoddard family.
It’s called statesmen and symbols, all in letters that are supposed to look like hebrew letters, which I’m sure the jewish community is ecstatic about. But basically, it’s a. You notice this mark up here, this thing over the curtain, the Nauvoo temple here looks a lot like the sign of the compass in Freemasonry. Okay. Basically, their main guy they interview in here is Tim Ballard, talking about how Freemasonry built this country. It’s gotten a bad rap, but the Freemasons are the true disciples of Christ doing God’s work. Where’s your hat? Yeah, you don’t know this, Joe, but we’re not allowed to talk about Freemasonry on this show.
Oh, I’m sorry. In any sort of negative way. Where’s your hat? Where’s the hat? You’re lucky we are not live. You’re lucky we’re not on reach right now. That’s our honorary mason right there. I don’t trust, you know, but Joe’s eyes just got big. I mean, so far he’s been an honorable stand up dude. I judge everybody by their character, you know what I’m saying? But it’s working. Here’s, here’s the thing. When you talk about symbolism in the Mormon church, about like five point inverted pentagrams and pentagrams, stars in mormonization, construction, everything, that all goes back to Joseph Smith’s history as a freemason.
And when the Freemasons kicked him out because he was doing weird things because he was doing too many, I didn’t even know he got kicked out of the Freemasons. That’s it. Yeah. Oh, it’s ok. Yeah. And he became like, it was like within weeks. No, don’t them like the lost tribe of Israel, though. Don’t they believe that? Yeah. Lost tribes of Israel. Are they Ephraim, were you, were you Ephraim, were you the tribe of Ephraim or Manasseh? Uh, Heidi, what’s that? Did we. Oh, I’m from, I’m, see, I’m from Manasseh. Ephraim and Manasseh are the two.
Well, so, okay, this is. Let me tell him really quick. The guy comes in and puts their hands on our head and channels to another God and freaking tells us where we’re from. That’s how that happens. So put that in your hat. I. I am dead ass. I have a whole presentation on occult Mormonism. I was. I received mine. Hey, looking good, buddy. Scottish, right? Hat, which, you know, is that Scottish, right? Is it? Is this right? Yes. He is only one that use the double headed phoenix. Yep. Well, they’re the only ones that go up as many numbers as Thomas has to.
Thomas has a lot of. I’ll say this. I don’t know, that looks a lot better than my Freemason hat in the morning when I was at the Freemason. What he’s not going to tell you is it goes beyond 33. That’s what he’s not going to. Yeah, no, I know, I know. The occult one goes up to 90 something. I can also go to any shopping mall and park my car and get free parking if I show this thing. So, you know, I don’t have to buy. I’m in. I’m in. Let’s talk I mean, I’ll go. Time we were anyway.
And you get into hospitals free because they build hella hospitals, don’t they? That’s all the freemasons are always. They can’t join up if you’re an atheist. This is why. This is the conspiracy, this higher power, against me. Keep atheists, free thinkers like me, out. I think that you probably could in that fake masonry that they’ve got over in the UK. Like, they’ll just let anyone in over there. So if you really wanted to become a mason, as an atheist, you just go and join whatever weird, creepy, like, british version they got. Thanks. That makes me feel great.
Thank you. Right. Uh. Paranoid. What about York? Right? Is that who you’re taking shots at right now? No, no. Your. Your great is. Is definitely not a one that you can join if you’re an atheist. That is the opposite. In fact, York, right, has a specific degree, the Knights Templar degree, where it is required that you vow to defend Christ, like, with your life, essentially. So you’re not even allowed to join that degree unless you fully submit to Christ. Oh, wow. Can I. Can I ask you this, Tommy? Okay, because, like, all my research turned up nothing on this, okay? But it’s known that the Mormon that.
I’m sorry. That the actual mafia, the italian mafia, not the Cosa Nostra and all that stuff. Stuff that’s mostly just Hollywood anyway, but the actual italian mafia, that’s where my people are from. Palermo. Okay, but they. But the. The story goes, it said long time, for a long time here, that the masons and the mafia were connected at the hip in. In Italy. And that when they came over, I don’t know if the Chicago Chicago group or the New York group or whom is more connected. You’re talking. You talk about p two propaganda do lodge. Which was the one that was basically God’s bank.
It was a cross between the Mafia Freemasonry and the Vatican’s banker. It was just money flowed like wine. Wow. Follow the road to Rome. Look, they’re all still working together, man. The CIA, mob, all of them. You’d be dumb to think they’re not. That’s just how works. You know what I’m saying? It’s not a conspiracy. It’s. If you want to run an empire and control people and not have the peasant class murder you, then you got to control the shit. You know? It’s bread and circus. Keep us. Keep us entertained, keep us fed. And that’s what it is.
They don’t care that the entertainment’s a lie. Or not, though. You know, most of the shit we see on the world stage on the news is bullshit anyways. Excuse my. I’ll say this as donuts up in the house are honorary. We got our honorary mason and our honorary jewish brother from the truth mafia. Awesome. What’s that noise? They got us guys, the more mafia’s after. Stuck, everybody. Bam. Oh, no. I’m just a blonde girl. I don’t know anything. Don’t keep me like you did Marilyn. I don’t know. Yeah, it’s Donut. What the hell you got? He wants us to say, what’s up, Donut? This is what Donut does when he’s not.
When he’s not on camera. It’s like, this is. Do you have pants on? Stand up right now. Stand up. Stand up right now and show us what you’re wearing. Oh, no, never mind. I take it back. I take it back. I take it back. I take it back. Donut, your mic’s not working. It just keeps saying, I. There’s something with your audio. It’s, like, looping over and over. Have you been connecting to the Kennedys? If you said the name Kennedy too many times, they saw Donut and God scared. They’re like, me. And Donut was going to podcast his mic, started tweaking out a little bit, dying, and so he’ll probably just read things.
I jump for conspiracy theory, but some of this stuff is weird. When I first started doing this, I would look at certain ethnic. Certain groups, right? Like Israel and stuff like that. But then when you start to really realize how all this shit works, they use all the different nationalities, so it’s not like it’s one specific pacific one at the top. It’s really this whole white anglo saxon cartel that has built an empire. And it’s old british. The british empire that’s still running shit today. Absolutely. I don’t know about that. But I tell you what, if you want to get.
Joe always says, be your catchphrase. I actually don’t know about it, and that’s what I’m saying. But I tell you one thing that I don’t know too much about, because nobody knows much about, but that I think is interesting. You want to get me to jump for a conspiracy theory? You mentioned the words Vatican bank, and I’m in. I’m like, yep, give me that. That’s because there is so much cheese down that tunnel. Well, of course you’re an atheist. You’re going to hate on the Catholics, too. I mean, come on, Joe. Correct, correct. It’s like, I don’t really hate on Catholics, but I definitely hate on the Vatican bank because there’s a lot of dark, shady things going on there that extend out to things like Mother Teresa.
And that’s. That’s an atheist thing, you know. Now is that, you know, the connection between Mother Teresa and, and how the, how the Catholic Church did away with the institution of how they vet people becoming saints because they said, she’s a child trafficker. You never heard that conspiracy? I swear to God. They said that about Mother Teresa. That was. Yeah, I don’t know. I read that. I read that, I think. But she, who knows? I don’t put it like, I don’t put anything. She was any of them. I mean, basically, I mean, Christopher Hitchens basically exposed in his book the Missionary Position, and then he had a documentary that it’s like Channel Four, BBC produced, called Hell’s angel and all, about how basically, this woman in all of her positions was all about getting as many babies born into this world as quickly as possible, get them baptized into the catholic church, and then dump them off the face of the earth as quickly as possible so that they wouldn’t have to suffer.
They just go more. They’d just be more angels in heaven. And as you get into that, it’s super fascinating. Like, it’s not really a secret. It’s. It’s well known that she did that and what. But, like, people are like, well, where did all the money? Because, like, she took money from the Duvalier family. She took money from Charles Keating and the Keating savings alone scandals. She took money from the most corrupt people in the world who wanted to clean up their image. And all this money that’s supposed to go to her missions of charity, it all ends up at the Vatican bank.
And then all of a sudden, John Paul II wants to make her a saint. And so. And it was Christopher Hitchens, the atheist, who came out and was called to be the devil’s advocate. You know, this was like an official position in the catholic church. The advocates, Diaboli, their job, they were called upon by the Vatican to come in and say, okay, if the devil and the angels and his angels and the atheists are ever going to say anything bad about this person after we make them a saint, we want to know what is is now.
And he laid out the case. This woman is not a saint. This woman is a terrible person. And because of that, John Paul II did away with the institution altogether and that they stopped vetting saints using advocateous diaboli. So and then. Which only worked out better for Hitchens. For Hitch, for the rest of his life. Because for the rest of his life, Hitch told people, I’m the guy who retired the devil’s advocate position at the catholic church. And it became like a huge point of pride. But it’s fascinating. It’s like this. The people. You think that the Vatican is wealthy and connected, right? But since the collapse of the papal states, really, it’s the Vatican bank.
And. And who’s in charge of the Vatican bank? The flat reality is no one knows. Okay. Yeah, it’s Trump. Okay, we’re gonna start conspiracy theory. I’ll just go the first catholic president dynasty charge of it. You know who’s in charge of the catholic bank? It’s quite easy to tell. Resurrected roman empire. It’s the same thing they built. They’re the same people that built which we got Washington. Right? It’s its own kind of nation. Just like London. Just like the Vatican. And London is the financial institute. Washington is the military industrial complex for this resurrected roman empire.
At least that’s my theory on it. Okay. My. My grandpa always said, you’re never gonna know a real. My grandpa came from the south side of Chicago. And he was involved in some crazy stuff most of my life. And ended up in sundowners and stuff. When he came out here. And he told me one thing. Anybody that tells you a name is a punk. You’ll never know who really runs anything because the real players, they don’t have their name out there. Yeah, no, you’ll never hear, you know, real names we hear like Kennedy, Rockefeller. All these names that she’ll name, they’re like front people.
You know what I’m saying? Even the Orient, Medicis, the Cologne families film. These are black nobility families that no one really knows. Von D. Aldovandi, the pacers. You want to look up some stuff, get yourself in trouble? Go look that up. Porcini, he’s one of the powerful families in the world that nobody ever mentions. So they pretty much own all Washington DC. Look them up. But now you have. In America, we have new money conspiracies. Right now I’m doing it. I’m theorizing. Okay, here we go. I don’t know. I’m gonna get you. We’ll get you. We’ll get you on board, brother.
Here’s the thing. I don’t know if you noticed this. This just came out, like, in the last 48 hours. But there’s new coverage about, you know, like, fidelity investments. Bail has been trying to claw back their investments into x, in. Into Elon Musk’s. Since Elon Musk. They claim that their analysis shows that since Elon Musk took over Twitter, it’s lost 72% of its value. And their money is all. All their money in there is tanking. And part of that invested that case, and then the mediation case by the employees fired by Musk while he was there, has revealed that the top secret group of investors who were the people who actually put up the money for buying Twitter, at the top of that, the first name is P.
Diddy, which, as you know about P. Diddy. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Is right on there. Jared Birchall, too. What’s that? Donut? Remember when you show P. Diddy with the four sixes on the elevators? You know where I noticed that brother the other day. And this is totally off, um, topic, guys, this has nothing to do. I know what picture you mean, but, yeah, there was four sixes. Everybody’s trying to say, oh, it’s 666. No, it was four sixes. And the four sixes, they just had it on Yellowstone. That. That, um, ranch that they go to down in Texas, it’s literally called sixes.
So that symbolism is being shown over. There’s something up with that. I don’t fully understand it right now, but they’re showing it to us over and over again. The four six is together. Just speaking on behalf of the lord of the prince of darkness, who is. Full disclosure, my employer and everyone who knows that. Everyone knows that at Hellfire agency, where one can sign up and get all of my exclusive content for $6.66 a month. I got it. Almost, I think, probably start as edgy atheists making jokes. He’s not doing that. You know Jim Bob on Instagram.
Joe. No. You should look him up. You and him are almost identical. I mean, I would think that you watch his content. Maybe he doesn’t believe in no conspiracies, either. Oh, interesting. Very. We could get. He’s funny. We should get together, him and I, and get on a podcast to talk about nothing. Everybody’s tossing out Elon’s name. You look up Jared Burchall, you’ll get some answers. Allegedly. I have another Elon tie here, because Elon, there was an article from two years ago that he bought this Mormon Temple called the Kirtland Temple in Ohio. And it just seems like if Elon is following that same archetype as Howard Hughes and surrounding himself, or at least getting into business with Mormons, this Kirtland temple purchase seems like a really obvious foot in the.
How are you telling me something about Kirtland Temple and I’ve never heard of this? This is. That’s wild. Is that true? I mean, I make most of the stuff up that I say, but yeah, there’s an article from November 26, 2022. I’ll pull it up here. Just so this one time, I’m not just throwing Freemasonic lies out into the ether. The one podcast on it, the Kirtland Temple. The church just bought the Kirtland temple. And there would they. Or maybe they bought it for a dollar from Elon because Jared Birchall’s his best friend. Right? First, Musk is now the owner and CEO of the Kirtland Temple, its visitors center and museum.
Wow. That’s interesting. But that’s crazy because they bought. They just bought it from the. From telling you this. The RlDs 100 million. I’m allegedly saying this. Look into the Rotary club, look into Jared Burchall, look into Elon Musk, look into the stuff we talked about today. And allegedly, you might go down a rabbit hole. I will look into that. I wrote all that shit down you just said so I can come on, too. For sure. It’s crazy. We’ll do. We’ll do it. We could do a uncensored one on rumbles where we could talk about whatever. Yeah, yeah.
There we go. Thousand people watch the video. So. Yeah, that’s interesting. Very interesting. Yeah. I got a question for you guys, as ex Mormons, because here’s a big conspiracy. It’s been in the. I’m donut. I’m sure you’ve heard of it. Paranoid American. I know you probably heard of this. There was, like, these videos back in the day that used to go viral of an ex Mormon whistleblower that he said the Mormons were involved in some type of witchcraft in the music industry, where they were binding certain energies to the master tapes. They would take them into the Mormon dumples.
You guys remember that conspiracy? Yes. With the pink room. This is. Well, this actually goes into what I said about the paper dolls and cowboy boots conspiracy. It’s not a conspiracy. It’s an allegation that had to be dropped because the timeframe was too long. You. You guys need to look at that. And David Levitt, allegedly, who moved to Scotland, not alleged. He ran away. And, you know, the fact that he’s not accountable because he said so on tv. So, yeah, yeah. There’s all kinds of crazy stuff with that one. So what do you think about it, Joe? Do you think it’s just bullshit conspiracy.
I don’t know about that. I like. And I don’t. Not just saying that, I am actually unaware of that. This was a big one. Like the main video. If you look it up, if you can even find it anymore, it’s probably got 200 million views on the damn thing. It went all the way. I mean, it was huge. Usually when stuff like that happens, I kind of put step away from it because they allow, they control what goes viral. So it makes me think, like, hmm, I don’t know. But I also don’t trust me personally, I don’t trust any religious institutions.
And with that, I believe in the creator. I just don’t trust organized religious institutions. That’s how I am as well. And Tommy, I want to tell you, to your point, that whole, that whole issue that I just said about the paper dolls and the allegations that were brought against him, it was a court case. It was dropped. It is against the current president, prophet, seer and revelator of the church’s daughter and her husband, Russell M. Nelson’s daughter. And Russell M. Nelson is a member of the Skull and Bone Society, Utah chapter started by Yale’s skull and Bone Society shortly after, I think it was maybe 18 years after they started theirs.
But the brothers from Yale society came out and started the one at the University of Utah. And. And so it is. He’s part of that and part of Alan Key instead of scrolling. Key. So don’t let me know something about this as well. There we go. He totally. So, yeah, that totally. That’s totally something. Working still. Donut, is your mic not working? You just got it muted. No, it’s not. You’re good. Oh, there you are. There you are. Thank goodness. I was weird. I couldn’t hear you because it. For some other reason, but it’s broken. That’s coming from my computer.
I. Okay, I’ve been using the $25 microphone. Don’t work no more. Yeah, you gotta get rid of that one, dude. Upgrade. We still love you, Donna. I like what you guys are talking about. I’ve been listening, and I’ve been studying the mafia stuff as well. Can you hear me better if I’m closer like this? We can hear you. It’s about the same. I’ve been doing some research, reading some books from some researchers. I wouldn’t even consider myself a researcher compared to the books that I’ve read because they’re so deep. People have done the work on the mafia connections in religious institutions and see me, I’m big fan of Mormons.
Catholics, Jews. You know what I’m saying? Like, I’m about. I’m pro religion. I think that people should. And atheists. Sorry, atheists as well. I feel like he’s a fan. If you have money and soldiers, they. He’s a fan of you. You’re all right in his. There we go. Well, no, it should be any free country, should be freedom of expression, freedom of belief. If not, what are we. What are we doing where we communists now? You know, maybe I just want to notate that they kill atheists, too, just to let you know, Joe. Communists, communists. It depends on the communists you’re talking about.
But, yeah, you guys don’t. I mean, Mormons. Wait, donut wants to say something. What was that? Donut. Next up, Heather. Told you. I just wanted to make that clear, though, before, like, I. Because I been studying the institutions, and I never really wanted to bring up the institution, but now the. It seems like the institutions are forcing our hands to talk about religion. And religion, what it is, is in an imprinted level through our nervous system. It’s something that you can’t just shake off. It’s built in there like a culture. Give me the child until seven, you show you the man, the famous.
I don’t know if it was Aristotle or whoever said that. It’s the same thing when you write in your journal. If you write your problems today, all the stuff is the same stuff you would write when you were seven years old. And this is a lot when the imprinting happens, and it’s different than brainwashing as a cult. If I want to go join a cult, I can snap out of that rather than if I was put into a cult at a younger age somewhere stuck in the autonomic nervous system. So I believe that the elite understand that people are imprinted through where they’re born.
If I ended up being born in Africa, I’d have a different religion than if I was born in America. So we’re very tribal. We’re very tribal. Yeah. That’s what sports are. Sports are just tribal warfare. And we’re also kind of sick in the head as well. And we’re also very spiritual as well. It’s just weird dynamic. So that’s not exactly like us. Right. But then we. We talk love and peace. I. It is a very weird peace. As long as you follow my religion. Right. Right. My thing is, as long as it’s not corruption. Right. Because absolute power corrupts absolutely.
And at the top of every religion or faction or government or whatever it is, when you’re hurting people. And there’s cults inside cults, which I truly believe about Mormonism, because, like, I’ve known a lot of good, nice mormon people, man. Like, my grandma’s a Mormon. I was raised in it. I have Mormon DNA. Like, this was from birth for me. And I’m just saying, like, not everybody knows the stuff at the top. And that’s truth. Yes, it’s true. For every. Everything that freemasons into a faction. Yeah, yeah, there’s bad people. Yeah, there’s bad people everywhere. And they give everyone else a bad name.
And so. Well, yeah, and so, like, something that Heidi and I have talked about this, though, I didn’t. Well, I’ll get crucified for that comment, though. The information part. Yeah, you know what? I don’t care. I stand up for, for everybody. Like, America’s my friend. I don’t give a shit what he’s my friend. I try to get inside info from him, though. I’m always from the. The first big wave of the culling. I’ve put a good word in for all of you. Thank you. I need it. I’ll be needing you. You’re gonna have to get a chip.
He’s gonna cover the freemason and I’ll cover the Christian and Tommy will cover Christian. And don’t cover the jewish end. We’ll all be kidde. I’ll be the atheist. I’ll be the atheist who pops in at the end and says all bullshit. One God further. No one’s no need. A lot of people leave out the knights of Malta, which is super fascinating because Alan Dulles, CIA creator, was part of that skull and bones, was a catholic order, I believe. Now it’s a, like, super sauce order. Papal night of Malta. So that’s the thing. So the Rothschilds are knights of Malta.
So why are the jewish bankers connected to a catholic order? Doesn’t make any sense. Why are the Mormons connected to a catholic order? That’s weird. Camouflage. Yeah. So this is the camouflage. This is the owl. The owl can hide. Allen Key is what the Mormons call theirs, by the way. Not scrolling. Key. Owl and key. Not like Allen Key, not like you use, not like the little hexagonal tools. Owl and key owl. Yeah. I’m curious. I’m sorry, I don’t mean talk over. I’m trying to get this in casual here, but what, what do the nevermost. I know if you guys are never Mormons or like, casual Mormons or whatever, but what do do people who are in the use a polite word, conspiracy theory aligned interest group aware of Tim Ballard in operation Underground Railroad and the scandal evolving around that.
Whether it’s to do with the Freemason side or more importantly, to do with the Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell. We can’t talk about that today. I look at it as a huge. A huge grip. Just like all these red pillars that are connected to the United nations and homeland security. I just look as a great way to make money. So look, the whole queue thing was popping. Let’s jump on this bandwagon. Make a mike. They made a ton of money. Oh, millions. I know people that became millionaires from that movement. Seriously. Massive money grab. And now nothing they said ever came true.
It was algorithmic wipeout. You used any of them hashtags? Theme all them content creators are gone, but most people are too stupid to realize that shit. Donut, Tommy. We’re supposed to wait for the plan. Yeah, sit on the couch and wait for that plan. Let me know how that works out for you. There’s no waiting on it today. You know, it was sad. I shouldn’t. It’s like them freshly red pill people that. Yeah. Really don’t under. They think they know what’s going on, but they don’t know. I think donut. Right. This all goes back to super old, like.
Like factions back in the day that are still here, that are underground, that nobody knows about, and they’re actually just calling it something else, like, you know. Yeah. And they’re not dedicated to a religion like a religious person or a land like France. A lot of these mafia cults, a lot of the history comes out through France. Why are they destroying France then? Why do they have, like, ship in people to cause chaos? Because they’re not dedicated to the land. Kind of like someone whose maga would be connected to America. Land. The elites, they don’t care about the land.
They could go to another country. Watch it burn. Yes. The AI drones. Clean it all up. Yeah. Come back in. Like, they’re not. They’re not nationalistic in a sense like that. They actually hate the national movement and, you know, they don’t want us to have pride in where we live and stuff like that. And when I say I’m an a, like, I don’t like politics at all. Let’s be anarchist. I don’t mean I don’t love America. I mean, I don’t love where politics has gone. I don’t like politics. I absolutely hate it. But I’m. As far as my morals, I’m.
I would consider myself more pro life, conservative leaning, but I’m not a republican. I would never, I would never. I mean, it’s. It’s divide and conquer. You know, we can’t vote our way out of this. This is a disaster. Like, there’s no way to do that because it’s selected, not elected. And they have a plan, and their plans are going to continue. And this plan has been coming for a long time, you know, goes back to France. Yeah. And, you know, you won’t be, you won’t be able to buy, sell, or trade eventually. It doesn’t do a religion.
It’s about power. Forget the religious part of it. It’s about power. Just like China, they have a social credit score over there. That’s what they’re implementing everywhere. So if you want to know what’s coming to America, look over to China, because that’s so Japan as well. The men there just do not leave the house. They’re addicted to the screens, and their family brings them food and then the birth rates collapsing. And that’s what’s going to happen to America. It’s already happening with me. I can’t leave my house. I just say Uber eats it on a computer, on Twitter so we can see it happening in America.
It is. He’s right, though. It isn’t it. And we know now they got AI porn. They don’t even need people to, like, do. He brought up a very interesting point. He was all like, is it cheating if you’re looking at AI, naughty AI, because it’s not a human. So Jesus did say, you have to. You have to look at a woman with lust in your heart. And if, like alchemy, I don’t know where they would put. They could. Yeah, they could bring with a thing on its forehead. It’s kind of like that, though, ain’t it? The homunculus or the column of modern day.
That is what AI is creating. Yeah, I mean, this is one of my favorite things to nitpick at, though, because that whatever you were just mentioning donut. Right? Like, is it cheating or whatever? Um, but what would be the difference between. You just drew something really well, you were like a masterful artist and you painted that thing that you’re talking about. Like, where’s the exact line between, oh, well, computer did it. Like, which one is. Is it less moral because you get turned on by a painting that someone spent eight months working on? Or if some, you know, we’ve been in the basement hit generate and they waited 8 seconds.
Is there like a real line between those two. Now, I don’t know if this article was fake, but it was in Utah that the most watched naughty websites come out of Utah. No, it’s real. That’s real because you. I don’t know. But then they go crazy. Yeah, the article, there was an article that goes over, like, the people who look at porn websites and in Utah that what their, what their most common search trends were. And it was. It was embarrassing. It was embarrassing. For those of us who are living in Utah. It would be awesome if everyone here that uses VPN’s always set your VPN to Salt Lake city before you naughty online just to keep spewing those results.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Elder, whatever your name is, or prophet, seer and revelator. The statistics are out there where we can look at different countries, what they’re looking at, how people react, and countries that have freedom of looking at the naughty websites have lower cases of the r, have lower cases of violence and stuff like that, especially naughty violence of the art drops. I mean, it’s significant with legalization of the naughty websites. So it’s interesting how the alt right wants to get rid of freedom of that. You know what I mean? They want to get rid of those websites and bring it more of like a, like, in Asia.
In Asia, for example, in Singapore, I was not able to look at any naughty websites when I was out there. Research purposes, I assume. Are we saying naughty websites because we might get flagged if we say porn? Is that or is that. I usually don’t say that. Okay, I got. All right, sorry. Sorry. Because I talk a lot about the naughty statistics, and it’s just the funniest statistic is how the conservatives are most likely to cross dress as a woman. But this doesn’t mean that they’re same sex attracted, though, because the conservatives aren’t as much same sex attracted, but they do like to dress up as women, which I thought was hilarious.
And the top searches for what they’re looking at is that the trans stuff? That is a big thing that everybody be looking at from. I’m looking at it right now, it says lesbian. Lesbian. I don’t. That’s, that wasn’t in the, the books I read. I’m said, you know, so that’s the word they used. I don’t know if I’m allowed to use that or not. But the report I said, said that the number one search was massage parlor. And I’m like, really? That’s the part where I said, it’s embarrassing. It’s like that’s what y’all are looking at.
Massage parlors and happy endings. Are you serious? Guys? The scary one is the mom. Like, who’s looking up mom on son? That’s what men is like. One of them is cuckolding. And there’s a reason why is because men, look, because what you’re doing when you’re watching this, you’re pretty much, you’re not. You’re not participating, you’re observing, kind of like in the Illuminati party and eyes wide shut where there’s people. So that’s what you’re pretty much doing. Your illuminati partying, watching it. Oh, man. And so it’s pretty much the same thing as being cuckolded. So that’s why that search, porn of people sleeping with my wife is the most searched.
Oh, my mom, bro. Okay, so here’s Jack Parsons land here. And it’s even the thing that I was. The thing that the reason why I had mentioned that, but with the Tim Ballard thing actually kind of connects to this subject because what happens that Tim Ballard has been pushing two people for a long time, this mormon cult within a cult, which is based around this book, Visions of Glory. And this guy, Tom Harrison, who is an addiction therapy therapy, a naughty site addiction therapy guy, who’s now so far out there, I mean, basically Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell, it’s just well known they are disciples of his.
But other people connected to him include Tim Ballard, include who’s been pushing his stuff to Operation Underground Railroad, people who now is with the catholic church, by the way. Right, right. And that’s the things. Because the Mormon church kicked him out. When the Mormon church starts kicking people out besides me, I was kicked out for being atheist. But the. I pointed just now to my excommunication letter, which is. Right. It’s a lot of time. But generally, the Mormon church doesn’t go after excommunicating people unless there’s something that the church is like, specifically like, okay, well, if it ever gets up to the media that we’re connected to this guy and what he’s doing, we’re going to get into trouble.
So we’re going to, you know, otherwise, they don’t want to kick anybody out. They want everybody’s tithing dollars. And so they kicked out Tim Ballard. He’s been trying to clean up his image because that’s when it started to come out that he, the whole reason he shifted over to, from taking money from wealthy Mormons like Paul. Well, maybe I won’t say names now. We’re officially not saying names. Paul Hutchinson. Once he stopped taking money because he was out of trouble. By the way, you be careful. Oh, sorry, sorry. It was a great man and a patriot and handsome, frankly.
And then started going to QAnon conferences and getting the whole. Can you say Qanon? Is that naughty word? Naughty word, you say? Yes. Okay, but. But once you start. I’m just joking. I’m busting nothing. It’s the spirit behind him. Seriously. My Mac. My Mac just started talking to me, like, said something about, don’t say that. Joseph Smith spirit. The occult. Just kidding. That was weird. That was super weird. And they’re listening. They’re always listening. But he started going to the. To the. The alt right crowd and selling sound of freedom and all of that. All of his bullshit about that, when the Mormons stopped giving him money.
And there’s still some moments who are totally tied up in the sound of freedom. They’re all. Them people are all fucking controlled opposition to. You know, we did a video that went viral on them. They try to sue me. They actually got my website taken down. Swear to God, for a whole day. I had to reach out to their lawyers and everything. Yep. They try to sue my ass. You have to say allegedly after everything, because it goes into all the attorneys and attorney generals and everybody. My attorney was better, though. That video still in my websites back.
Yeah, you got. You did, I think, one of our first conspiracy cinemas. Remember, we got in big trouble for. Yeah, well, I want to summon without getting myself in trouble again. Oh, my gosh. My Ballard conspiracy. The most simple and sanitized terms is just that that movie was created so that everyone could, like, vicariously just get it out of their system. It’s like you knew, you know, that there’s these networks going on. You know, this international trade is happening. People weren’t. They didn’t. They didn’t get quelled just because they took Epstein out and they. They knocked him off.
It was still, like, people wanted to know about it. So this freaking movie comes out, and now you watch the movie, and you’re like, oh, thank God that Ballard took care of that problem for me. Like, how couldn’t. He couldn’t have. I lived through the experience. Like, I feel that it’s no longer a problem and you can move on channel Nephi in his ketamine treatments to talk, allegedly. To talk to the angels so that he could. Yeah, it’s the whole thing. Well, that’s paranoid that they have wiped out all them groups and that the white hats are in control of everything now.
The white hats are in control of heart. There’s no more directed energy weapons. The white hats are in control of cern. That’s part of their whole bullshit narrative, you know? What do you say, donut? What? Doesn’t the pope wear a white hat? Well, he’s got, dude, that guy’s got so many hats, he’s got a rapper hat, that’s for sure. Everything about is a bit of. Everything about the pope is a bit hat on a hat. The Jews wears the black hat, the amica, right? And a pope wears the white yarmulke. Maybe it comes from that. Maybe the white black hat thing might stem from that too.
Who knows? You know, fear of a black mad hatter club, for sure. Yeah. Could be an element of truth to that. Because the real people that run shit, they love to demonize other groups and get you to focus on them, when really, you know what I’m saying? That’s just part of their husband. That’s like what I said about the real gangsters. You’ll never know. The thing that’s crazy for me is I’ve been, I know, I’ve been researching the religious institutions and I’ve always just said, what Jordan Maxwell said is, don’t go after the people highlighting people.
You could talk about the institutions because they’re corrupt. And there is this camouflage elements that want bloodshed rituals. Nobody’s dedicated to their religion or land. They just move around, changing from Mormon, like this Billard guy, to whatever he is now. So making that clear about the people and the institutions separately. Now we got mainstream like Andrew Tate, 10 million followers minimum on x, Candace Owens huge following, fully monetized, endorsed by the most popular artist, Kanye, and also the second. And wasn’t she a young leader in the young. Well, she was a young. She doxxed people. She was, she created a website to dox people.
So it was like an information, intelligence collecting. But she was part of the young global leaders. I don’t know what that is. That’s like a road economic forum kind of thing. Yeah. Yep, yep. Oh, so that’s weird. Allegedly. Allegedly. And then probably not early things. Is moms connected to the United nations? The red pill channel is connected to the homeland security. And they’re all going after jewish people, not the institutions. They’re going after me and people. Kanye said it in caps. Kanye promoted that on October 8. One year later, October, pretty much 8th October 7, the Middle east war kicked off.
And I just been watching it for like two years, like this is messed up, like all these institutions. And I, all I said was pray for the Middle east, you know, pray for the Muslims, pray for the Jews. It’s been to like over two years of this. And now Dan Balzarian, who’s this famous guy, is calling Jews parasites, just all this anti semitic stuff like that. And like his arguments, I know the arguments that they’re saying, but the thing is, they’re, what they’re doing is they’re all picking, they’re all neophytes to religions, so they’re picking these different institutions to join up with, to pin each other against.
It’s, it’s so obvious that I feel like I gotta talk about it a little bit because it’s a huge illuminati move that’s being pulled right now and so many people are falling for it and even me talking about it. Then I get labeled all these things that are untrue. Like, I’ve never pushed any type of political, that’s not what my channel is about political religion or anything. I’m just about symbolism. And this is a big thing is Jordan Maxwell’s saying of everything political is a little religious. Everything religious is a little political. There’s a mixture of both of them.
And all the different religious institutions are connected to mafias. So there’s different mafias, there’s jewish mafia, italian mafia. I didn’t know there was mormon mafia, but so there’s all these different mafias because mafias are secret societies. And this is something I’m interested in is the secret society elements, because that’s who actually controls the world. And these secret society elements, they might look like they’re fighting each other, they might, you know, have a little battle, but they end up working because it’s multifaceted. It’s not, you can’t just claim, oh, it’s me because I’m jewish, so I’m the one in control of it.
And there’s a long history. They’re kicked out of 109. Like, there’s no thinking allowed. It’s. You point to that, you know, it’s much deeper than that. But the donut, they really made that whole thing popular that you just mentioned about them being kicked out of countries. You know, they were, they said they were sacrificing christian children. And that all came from that synagogue of Satan book, which he’s a russian agent. I read the whole book. I, you know, I told you about it. My experience, I said, dude, quoting shit in there that I know for a fact ain’t true.
Like, I thought the whole thing with the three letters to world War three and Albert pike was real until me and paranoid American got in a fight about it and it made me go, shit, Americans onto something. There is some deception going on. We just talked about this, huh, Thomas? Always. It’s my favorite topic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Argument about it kind of on our show before. Nothing too bad. But we, we, you know, the fans loved it. There’s no proof of that letter. No, there’s no. To the agents, to the agent part. I just want you guys to know, Mormons in Utah is one of the biggest recruitment places for the three letter agencies.
And there are multiple places here that are. We. I have an FBI center maybe 15 miles from me. Like, it’s a big thing here. And me and paranoid have talked about this before, but it’s, it’s huge. And Andreas has talked about it before about recruitment, when we’ve been talking, and I just find that interesting. I mean, a lot of times they’ll come. They like that. They don’t drink, they don’t smoke. They look clean on paper. They don’t usually have tattoos. And they usually speak another language because they serve an LDs, LDS mission at 18 and a lot of times learn a second language.
Sounds like the Jews. And the other thing is, well, another thing that’s interesting about that that keeps coming up in my, in my shows, my hellfire agency, I do, I do this series. We’ve talked about this about Ted Bundy and, well, about murders among the Mormons. And he was a Mormon. He was a moron. He was. Well, here’s the thing. He didn’t start out a Mormon. He came to Utah to carry on his, his activities, but he was engaged to be married to a Jack Mormon who was from Utah. And he did her right, that she.
Yeah, that she’s not living like a morn, but she’s still on the rolls of the church somewhere. But she, he used to give her these little credulity tests, like he would leave weapons out for her to find, apparently, allegedly, he’d leave weapons out for her to find. And when she would confront him, he’d be like, what are you accusing me of? And give her some really B’s reason just to see how she would respond. And when she goes, well, Ted, if you tell me that that’s what, that, all that that is, that’s all you have to say, you know, whatever.
And then he’s like, I’m going to college in Utah. I’m going to go to law school. In Utah. And that’s where. Right. They were credulity. It was credulity test. And he used to do that with his victims, too. He would give them something totally B’s is totally unbelievable. Totally. To be totally incredulous about. When they bought it, he was like, you’re a mark. And he’d go for him. And that’s. And this keeps coming up again, getting linked with the Tim Ballard thing. Tim Ballard. He’s like, if I can. If he can sell you on that naughty website, addiction is real, and it’s pervasive, and it’s the biggest problem in our world today.
And people go for it. He’s like, yeah, so let’s talk about how you can give me some money. And then money starts coming in. You know, is all of these. There are these incredulity tests that people. People take advantage of other people if they know and can tell through certain signals you are. A person doesn’t do critical thinking very well. So it’s interesting that J. Edgar Hoover, when, you know, when he started to really kick up recruitment into the FBI in earnest, he would tell people, oh, I like these Mormons. You know, it was obviously he liked Mormons because they didn’t drink.
And the FBI was, or institutionally, supposedly, to enforce prohibition. But that long after prohibition was over, they kept on recruiting and kept on recruiting, and then the Mormons would recruit each other into it. So where. It’s now just a joke that, you know, in. In the. In FB, in the FBI, you can’t throw a rock without hitting a Mormon. So it’s like. I mean, there’s this whole thing really comes down to me, as you know, and I am an atheist, so full disclosure there. But you can say Satanists, too. You don’t have to hide behind that.
He’s not as the prince of darkness. And I just want everybody to know that everybody should be using critical thinking. And we need to. The fact of the matter is that they know that there is a culture in this country and all over the world, frankly, of people who just have very poor critical thinking skills. And there are people who just prey upon these people all the time, whether that. Whether that’s for the devil or not the devil. And I say no, but you can believe what you want, but we’re definitely to get money. That’s one thing I really agree with Joe about right there.
I definitely agree with that. They, like I say, the top level. Yeah, the top levels are always going to be corrupt of anything. Anything, period. Movement was proof of that, that they prey on. Hundred. The first. The wet movement. The cube. Oh, yeah. Oh, I agree 100%. There. We agree on something definite. That’s exactly what’s going on. That there was. That there are a group of people out there who are desperate to believe something and will believe it if it. If it confirms their bias and. And are ready to take whatever little amount of money they have and give it to.
Here’s the thing. If people out there scamming rich people, I don’t care. But if they’re out there, they’re out there ripping off ordinary working class people and taking what little money these people have because they know these people are. Will give it, because they’ll believe anything that sounds dark enough, then that that’s where we ought to be really concerned about how lack of proper critical thinking education has become a crisis in this country. In this country, frankly. So that’s my opinion. Yeah. The abuse, any abuse of any, anybody. I don’t care, like what. What denomination or color or anything.
It’s just not okay. And the fact is, I think Tommy said it, or maybe donut said it. It’s all. It’s all controlled anyways. Like, they are playing with us. They are playing with us. And that’s the point is, if you follow any millionaire, or especially a billionaire, you’re gonna find a road that’s probably not pretty. Let’s get real. These people don’t love you. Like, no one’s saving you that way. Like, and, Heidi, there probably is something, honey, going on with the billionaire class right now, because they know the economy’s getting ready to crash. The whole code red.
And if you don’t know what code red is, go to occult decodes.com and look at the being wordless. So when the code red came out and we were all on lockdowns, remember, all them billionaires were stepping down. All the CEO’s were stepping down, but they linked it to Q movement. They said, oh, that’s because they’re getting arrested. Military tribunals, which always a lie. You know, none of them got arrested. They’re all still alive. They’re. Now, here’s the new theory. They’re. They’re saying, oh, yeah, that’s their clone. They’ve been cloned. You know, and I even believe in cloning, but I don’t believe to me, like, now we’re just gonna say, oh, yeah, that person was killed in America military tribunal.
But now that’s his clone. That’s not even the real Joe Biden, or that’s not the real Kamala Harris. You know what I’m saying? That’s right. They know. They know everything before it pops off. And they’re all in this together, whether they’re from, you know, the top of the mafia or the jewish religion or the Mormon religion or. I don’t care. What if you’re at the level and you’re loaded and you’re loaded like billionaire, you know, some shit like that, we’re never gonna know. Well, it’s even beyond that, honey, it’s a trick. These people that are really running shit, they’re not billionaires, they’re trillionaires.
You know, there’s only a hand this country, and they own 99% of all the wealth on this planet. That’s who you need to look up. Look up who the trillionaires are and them are the people running shit. See, now you’re talking to me. See, now you now tell me. Found the key to my heart. That’s, I’m trying. There is different levels of common wealth and the commonwealth is like the kings and the queens because they have a low ideal title. Monsters are us because we don’t have a lloyd old title, which means that we own the land.
So we put pay property tax or whatever. So if you kind of look up who, who’s a trillionaire, nothing will really pop up through, through the fiat currency. But when you add in all the land that they own, the commonwealth, the art, which is a huge money laundering. The art world and mind control front. Well, donut what you’re talking about. I mean, I’m okay with, honey, it’s okay. And even with the bankers in this and they give that stigma. All bankers are jewish. I know many trillionaire bankers name fucking jewish, so. But with the bankers, what do they do? They inflate the dollar, they get, you know, it’s all inflation.
Then they get us into debt and then they come and steal your land and steal your house and steal the real wealth. That’s the real wealth that they’re taking. Yeah, well, also the Federal Reserve, there was only like one jewish family part of that. The rest were gentile, I believe. Yeah, most of a lot of the banking families are. Well, maybe because you’ve got the Warburgs for sure, is one of the main families. But the, there’s a lot of can, I mean, without going on. But who knows if that’s true. Rockefellers. But also there’s a lot of claims that a lot of the Morgan money came directly from the Rothschilds and that the Morgan family was mostly like a proxy for Rothschild spending their money without them literally spending their money, because there’s still a stigma about them spending money.
Like, even though the Balfour declaration hadn’t even really been established at that point, right? So there was very much a taboo about jewish people investing in huge ways in, like, countries up until the Balfour kind of got passed and, like, the state of Israel gets declared and all this, but that is. That is prior to all this. So. Yeah, that. I don’t know how much meat there is to those bones. Paranoid. You know, no one’s sticking up for them, even donut. I’m just. I’m just saying that there was a lot of different angles into that federal reserve.
Even Joseph Pulitzer, which I think might have been an atheist, maybe that was just like an old Joe. Like Joe, you love Pulitzer, right? And his yellow journalism. Yeah. I’m kidding. I’m kidding. I’m just. I don’t mean that they’re. What about the Titanic, bro? All them people that died during the Titanic, you know, a lot of them oppose the Federal Reserve, and then they all die. Then we’re like, the billionaires that kind of were for America in the normal currency that was there at that point. And then, you know, they set up Jekyll island after all that.
And that’s where they. They did all that. And. And let me tell you something. Where they did that meeting at Jekyll island. There is some ancient, like, burial ground there over top of where they did it. It’s some weird. It’s called indian burial mound. And they thought that it was, like, discarded shells from when they were, like, eating. But then they found that there was also, like, skeletal remains under that, and that was literally the. I think that was the Rockefeller mansion that’s built. Right? I mean, they’re. All. The houses are, like, really close to each other on Jekyll island.
Look, look. They carry their own blood supply everywhere they go. I don’t trust them. Gross. No, no, no. Look it up. Like, it’s the whole thing. Like, they carry their own blood supply everywhere they go. Well, because most of them are rh negative. And if they. Exactly why they can’t transfer blood from you, which I’m rh negative, to. If I try to get blood from you, it would kill me, you know? Right. But I’m just saying, like, I think that’s what a lot of it is, though. It’s because of that. And there’s many theories on the rh negative.
Oh, I have gone down that whole rabbit hole. I just did it. Well, I did one on reality czars with about the cabbage babies. And I go deep into that, like I get. I mean, I love a good conspiracy theory. Like people all kinds of shit because of the art. It’s negative. I don’t really know damn nephilim, but who knows? Well, I do think I will say this. I do think they’ve manipulated our DNA. I do think that that has occurred and isn’t a big surprise to anybody at this point. I mean, how many kids is Elon Musk made in little tubes? Like named them XY lmnop, like.
I don’t know, but I think it’s twelve. I think it’s twelve. They say the patch babies were like. There’s this whole theory about it, but I got you. You know what I’m talking about? Yeah, I do a whole thing on that. Yes. I don’t know, with the orphan trains and the incubator babies and the cabbage babies and the. I was also baby, by the way. I just have to always throw that one out there. Remember, we’re not talking about the incubator itself. We’re talking one of the good ones. I’m one of the good. You were not the world’s favorite incubator baby.
Let me tell you something. Remember that video that went viral everybody was sharing with babies being born and like, them. Them look like. Yeah, the pod that was all fake. It was. It was a generated video that went viral. I found because I. I thought it was real too. And, you know, then I reached. I’ve learned to not just share things from other truth seekers, because most of them are either morons or they, you know, they just recycle shit. And they’re like parrots, they repeat things. Well, if they show it to you, you know, that they’ve, like for them to figure out a test.
Oh, yeah, they showed it for a reason. They. That wasn’t true for sure. But like, the fact is, is like the Hindus figured out how to make a test tube baby way before us. And it’s not just putting two things in a petri dish. You have to have a zinc spark. You have to have, like, I’m a registered nurse too. And so when I study this stuff, I go deep on the medical side. And I’ll tell you, like, there’s some interesting stuff with it. And any technology that we receive is way late down the road. And also, I never took a jab, nor would I ever receive one.
So just saying that, don’t come at me just because I’m a nurse. So speaking of, like, you got this biggest Hannah man monkey statue. 72. The third tallest statue built of a monkey while all this monkey stuff is happening. That’s interesting. Yep, yep. I think that they always, they put into, you know. Yeah, it’s all loosh and it’s all like, you know, you get enough people to believe a certain thing, like, I don’t know, like, the common cold could kill you and, like, it’s super dangerous and certain things like that. And then everybody believes it. And then they stand 6ft apart like they do in the OTO and wear face covering.
That’s fine. It’s okay. I did a video with one. It really is. Yeah, no, I know. I’m being silly. No, it’s true. Oh, I just did a video with Juan on the homunculus before anybody talked about it. Um, I like to just flex right there for a second. I love Juan, but I’d love to do a video with one. One is the best. I just talked to them. I’m trying to build my esteem up. And yesterday I had a really esteemful, like, situation, I guess, I don’t know, confident situation where I was talking to my mom and I was like, oh, yeah, Trump’s gonna be speaking here and RFK gonna open up for him for sure.
And I told her that. And then, because he dropped, like, out the day before, so just like, well, obviously, like, he’s gonna be the special guest. And then that did happen. So I was like, oh, I was right. Like the people I care about a lot, like my parents, right. So I was like. So I said that. I was like, I was correct. And then with my dad, we were watching the tv and this was on February 22. Two, two. And Joe Biden was going to come out and I was like, he’s going to come out at two.
Two two. Exactly. And then he did. So then, like, I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, crazy time. That was right before your birthday. That’s when the Texas fire started. All that crazy. Well, that was the, that was the war. That was the day the war kicked off with, uh, your birthday was like four days later, right? 26. Yeah, it was. Yeah, yeah. Happy birthday on YouTube, though. You know, but, you know, it’s interesting to me as far as, like, one of the things that doesn’t get, I feel like doesn’t get enough coverage. Again, I don’t jump for a conspiracy theory, but this is weird is how law enforcement inefficiency bleeds over from.
This is just, you know, some branches of our law enforcement in this country. It just, they’re crap. They’re not very smart. They don’t know what they’re doing. And over into, well, now, wait a minute. This is weird because this keeps coming up, becoming a problem. I was talking, I’m releasing today a two hour episode where I interviewed the guy who has written more books on Ted Bundy than, than anybody else. And we talked at length about how Ted Bundy just relied on the fact that in Utah, most of the law enforcement in Utah just had no idea what they were doing.
They’re just a bunch of hic cops who had no idea how to investigate and how to talk to each other. I said, but then you look at this, this, this. I point out a few things. I’m like, what do you know about Tim Ballard? And he’s like, I don’t even know who that is. I’m like, okay, yeah. So I’m like, let me point out to this Utah county sheriff’s office and all these things that, how they, they basically let Bundy get away with everything he did in Utah county and said the same group, the same department, completely new leadership, the same problems over here with Tim Ballard and Operation Underground Railroad.
And he’s like, are you kidding me right now? He’s like, did they learn nothing in 50 years? I said, it’s almost as if there’s an effort to not find out what’s going on. He’s like, I gotta tell you, I, he’s like, I’ve had that. He’s like, I’ve been investigating Bundy for 30 years, and he’s. And written, he’s written like twelve books on Ted Bundy. And he’s like, and that is the thing that keeps coming up in Utah over and over again is this, this goes from being, they’re very bad at enforcing the law, over into, are they protecting him? Are they.
I mean, are they protect. Is it because Bundy joined the church? Do they know that Bundy joined the church or Bundy joined the CIA or not? Or I’m crazy. I’m just no proof of that. I’m just saying it’s interesting thought. It’s an, that was the line that made donut disappear. He’s like, maybe another one, another three. What about the Ted Bundy thing that. Was he working with the intelligence agencies? Makes you wonder. I don’t think so. But I see theorist. I’m. What about at the end? He was with the FBI. Yeah. They said Jeffrey Dahmer was involved in some type of cult that I’ve heard that.
Yeah. I don’t know if it’s true, but they said he’s part of a cult. And, you know, I mean, the dude was definitely freaking crazy. Used to watch the exorcist every time he’s about to drill into people’s brains. I don’t know. They found Anton Lavey Satanic Bible in his house, I believe, which is one of the claims for that. And he was also, like, staging an actual occult ritual in one of the rooms with the remains. But I just. I was maybe funny in a morbid way. Imagine if you’re, like, a satanist, right? Like, you joined your local temple of Satan, and you’re, like, all edgy, and you’re like, yeah, we’re going to go and do, like, protests, and we’re gonna, like, really stick it in the church’s eye.
And then Dahmer shows up one day and he’s like, hey, we should go and eat people. Like, seems like he probably got kicked out. And he was like, those guys aren’t real, say, you know what I mean? Like, he. So when, like, was he part of a cult? Probably, but I can’t imagine a single cult out there that would be like, yeah, come and join the fold. It was probably like, whoa, we. What are we doing? I’m out. Yeah. Then when you find out about these elites, though, bud, and, like, that. That artist me and you were talking about, paranoid.
You did an amazing. Yeah. Louise Bougie bourgeois bourgeois breakdown real quick for people. The connection with her to, like, you did on my show before, remember? There’s, like, this crazy. Yes. There’s. There’s a weird, like, three way cannibal connection with Dahmer and the Rockefeller family. And this lady, I think her name is Luis Bourgeoisie. I’m probably. I think that’s how it’s pronounced. It’s how it’s spelled, for sure. So she was the artist that made this famous sculpture that shows up in Podesta’s collection, but it’s someone with their back arched all the way. And I think this is called, like, the arch of madness or something like that.
And it was basically itself based on these medieval drawings of people having seizures and the way their backs and, like, their muscles would spasm. They’d always form, like, this very specific shape. So anyways, she creates that thing basically around the exact same time that Dahmer is posing one of his victims in the same way. And it one of the things that gets debunked, like, well, there’s no connection because those police records weren’t made public until after. But if she had access. Anyways, the cannibal connection here is she also had lots of cannibalistic artwork, which was fairly avant garde for her time.
It was kind of like made it somewhat unique. So here we’ve got an artist that is into cannibal artwork, and there’s a cannibal, a real cannibal that is somewhat. And her husband runs the wing of the. The modern museum of Art called the Rockefeller Wing. And it’s named after one, I think, his son who got eaten in like New guinea or something. I can’t remember which. Rockefeller this was Michael Rockefeller. So Michael C. Rockefeller, he’s going to be like a philanthropist, explorer guy. He’s going to go and bring all of their artwork into the modern, into the western world, so people can like see this glimpse he’s never seen from again.
So anyways, it’s an interesting connection between. Her husband runs the art wing, named after a guy that died from cannibalism. She makes cannibalism artwork. And this most famous cannibal american history also has artwork that is like strikingly similar. So that’s the three way. Interesting connection between all those. Now, paranoid. You know what that to me, first thing that I think of me and you, what with the work we do, what do you. I know you probably have this thought before two AI. I think of AI when I hear that story, how it’s all connected and, you know, it makes me think, like, is there some type of AI running this whole damn thing for real? Are we in some type of simulation? Because AI, it does shit like that, you know, or it shows that it’s all scripted and it’s part of a major script that they’re playing out on the world stage either way, right? As you made that point, we were at exactly 322 viewers.
Was we? Oh, man, that’s interesting there a little synchronicity. Here’s a little breakdown too, guys. Donut mentioned that monkey statue 72 foot tall, right? Well, there’s 72 names of God, 72 demons of the Ars Gotha in the lesser key of Solomon. And then you have harps antenna. It’s exact. They’re exactly 72 foot tall too. So there’s something with that number, some sacred connection to that number. Why they use it over. It’s the. And when you put the name of God, the four letter tetra grammaton, into a tetraket pyramid, it equals 72 in Gematria. Yeah, yahav. Or you can get 72 virgins and there’s 72 bricks on the back of the dollar, which is in the tetrake.
Muslims say that’s not true, though. It’s nowhere in the quran that they get 72 virgins. Oh, yeah. It was all pushed by pretty much us. I guess we started that. Yeah. But the 72 for the tetragrammaton is for sure. I read that and the manly P. Hall work and you can see it on the back of the dollar bill. It’s very interesting to me, though, that in 2003 we find the tomb of Gilgamesh. Right. So that you guys remember that being actually the. The BBC was reporting on it and everything. They were talking about finding the tomb of Gilgamesh.
And the next thing you know, we invade the exact location where they find it. You never hear nothing about it again. What’s a Gilgamesh? The. The tomb of Gilgamesh. There’s. Even if you look into WikiLeaks, Noah, the email links. Yeah, you look into the email links with. There’s some correspondence with Hillary Clinton talking about it. Like, we need to get that resurrection technology that she makes a reference to that in the email and shit. Matter of fact, if you guys want to see it, go on. Truth Mafia comm typing Gilgamesh in the search engine. I have all the links, all the evidence right there that shows you to the original story where the story first broke at the.
Who first broke the story. You know, I don’t just say shit. I give you links and evidence to back it up. And I just want to say. I just want to echo everybody else’s opinions about painters and artists of dark surrealist art. I find them all very suspicious. Very suspicious. Like, like who, Louise? Is that who you’re referencing? Oh, you’re with a. I would also throw out, um, she’s famous for her spiders, though, which is a representation of the archon, I think. I think it plays into the ark. There were major city. I’m the God, the spider God, too.
My influences are big Shinsky and Giger, more than anything else is. I don’t. I actually. Hr. HR Giger is the man. I love this stuff. So did you see the new alien? Because I look into the dolphin stuff, the dolphin symbology, and the xenomorph looks like it’s coming from a dolphin head. So the dolphin head of the alien in Mars attacks the brain is very similar to a dolphin brain. And the John C. Lilly experiments for MkUltra, he was experimenting with the dolphins so they would go down to the ocean to communicate with the whales. So the whales will bring the information to Atlantis or something to communicate with the aliens.
They were funded by the government, too, by the way. Of course, the dolphin alien connection is super interesting, even in them. The funny movie where the dolphins say thank you for all the fish, and they go up, back up into space. It’s a lot of stuff with the dolphin in the xenomorph is a dolphin. It looks very similar to it. Well, donut, I mean, paranoid. I tried to call you the other day. You don’t ever answer your phone, by the way. Answer. But as soon as I picked up, you. You stopped. Yeah, yeah, a thousand times.
But I was calling. Watch that show, bro. I watched aliens. I’m like, oh, I got to hit paranoid. We got to do. Because, bro, they show Prometheus is born. The engineers, it’s born from a crossbreed between that thing donuts talking about the xenomorph breeding with the human. And then. And then the engineer comes out of a human. She. She bursts it, and he, like, grows up real fast, too, bro. Like, in seconds, the son of a bitch is full grown. And then he goes over top of the girl, the mother. She has black goo dripping down out of her, too, where she would have milk.
You know what I’m saying? She’s got black goo dripping down. It’s crazy. Tv show based on alien wrote just came out. I didn’t even know this existed. Yeah. Yes, because you didn’t answer your phone. Yeah, I know. You’re not. You’re not wrong, man. You’re not wrong. We did one. One of our first videos that went viral, Washington, the one we did on Prometheus, it got taken down, but specifically, the director’s cut of the. Have you seen the unaired, like, director’s cut intro? Yeah, it. Dude, it changed so much better. I wish they’d kept so much more of that.
It. Because it was so much better. You didn’t even know about it, did you brought. I had no idea. Yeah, it was crazy. I was like, bro, if you are a fan of Prometheus, you got to watch this, because they cut this whole part of the movie out, and it kind of tells the story of the black goo, the nanotechnology, what that really is in the new crow. There’s this new movie called the Crow, right? And it’s a play on the. The crow that came out. And I’m just gonna give you all a hint. If you’re not smart enough to figure it out, then you don’t deserve to watch it for free.
But CI n e zone, that’s almost a yeah, don’t go more than that. Yeah, no more than that. Just go take a gander. Type that in your search result. But, um, in the crow, it’s all about the black you, bro. And when he sells a soul, he did. So he’s like, okay, when you sell your soul, you can’t come back from this. But he sells a soul for his girl, which is, you know, they get killed together, and it’s supposed to be like, a traumatic death. That’s why his soul can’t rest. So he wants to sell his soul to get her out of hell.
And the dude cuts his hand open, and black Duke starts coming out. He says this black goo, he calls it black blood, but he says this black blood will allow you to travel between worlds, which is so telling because I was like, the story of persephone, right? Because think of the black goo. Nanotechnology. I really believe it’s some type of AI tech that maybe if they are working with some type of entities, it allows them to interface here in the physical. I mean, that’s pretty much what the damn show. It allows them to travel between worlds.
And he’s talking about some fallen angelic entity that is a hundred percent believe in that, about fallen angels. And I’m talking an actual movie. It’s a fallen real life. Yeah. He goes around and he tricks people into killing their self. He possesses them. He whispers in their ear, and then they get demonically possessed. Just like in Doja Cat, the movie where she’s in the tub full of black goo and her eyes, and then the demon comes up and pulls her under the black goo. That’s her releasing and letting go to the demon, letting it take her over there.
They all have these weird little, you know, like other names for their stage presence and all this stuff. Like I hunter some alter ego. Right, exactly. They all tell you still, right? So something’s going on there. Yep. Row is amazing, man. Don’t. I told. I told my husband. I was like, we got to be worried about that actor because, you know what happened to the old one first? A first 10 seconds, Gary. And guess what they show you. First of all, the show opens up with the Pegasus flying in front of you. Clips. So the Pegasus we just seen in the Olympics, right? And then there’s a horse, a white horse laying with.
With copper. Like he has, like some type of barbed wire wrapped around his arm, and he’s laying on the ground. So we keep seeing this white horse symbolism. It was in those about to die. It was in the Olympics, which he kind of represented the Pegasus, you know? I don’t have. Was that about the white horse prophecy? Joseph Smith’s white horse prophecy? You never know. Was in a huge shootout. Yeah. Okay. Corral, wasn’t it? Og gang? No, Joseph was slaying women when he passed on. When his last. In his last day. And then he got. Yeah, the Mormons painted as a big martyrdom scene.
And then only recently on the last couple of years, have come out with the truth that the Mormons had smuggled him and his brother in some pistols so that they could fight back. And they did. And basically they died when they ran out of ammo, so. But, yes, but no, but Joseph Smith, just in the months before that, no one. Do you know why Joseph died? Wait. Because no one would help the widow’s son. Right. Continue forth. There was no. There was no help for the widow’s son. That’s a freemasonry reference, people. It’s a joke. If you’re all right, Joe’s out of here.
Sorry, Joe. I warned him that there was no freemason talk, and I was like, what the hell, dude? What do you mean? If I didn’t know, that was what. I wouldn’t have spent all that time taking down all my dark surrealism art if I didn’t know that it was just mentioning freemasonry again, that gets me. No, but now I’m interested in. What does the widow’s thing mean in the freemason stuff? Yeah. Paranoid American. What does that mean? What’s that about? Paranoid American? I don’t think this is off completely off limits, because I’ve read a number of books that you can grab that were written by Freemasons that go into the history on this.
The historical has all sorts of conjecture, but the reason that masons seem to care about it is that the widow’s son is like a hail that you can make is like a Hail Mary. And there was actually an episode of Talk radio, I think that was the one that had Joe Rogan and David Spade or Andy Dick in it and stuff. But on. On that show, he actually does a great breakdown. He’s making fun of it. But it’s that if you’re in court and you’re up against a judge, you’re a mason. The judge is a mason, even after the jury and everyone kind of, like, finds you guilty.
Or if it’s looking not great for you, you can make this special hail of the widow’s son sign and. And he’s supposed to let you off. He’ll just be like, you know what? I don’t like any of the proof here. That guy looks like a great guy. Case closed. That’s sort of the premise. And Joseph did get the first one for free. He tried to. One of the more famous ones I won’t get into, like, the Nates and the Danes, but there’s a really famous freemasonic story that comes up about this, and it’s that there were two people on opposing sides of the civil war, and they encountered each other on the battlefield, and one of them made this particular sign when it looked like he was about to get taken out.
And the other mason that was pointing his guns saw this sign and basically gave him quarter and, like, hid him and protected him. Because that link between Masons was supposed to be far deeper than any kind of political sides would have pitted them against each other. And that the reason, too, that I think that in the same way that when Mormons came up, they didn’t know Internet was going to come out, maybe the printed book, that was a way that you can kind of pass knowledge around. But no one expected so many expose to come out and say, here’s the handshakes, here’s the sign, here’s a secret password.
Say this. So then as soon as those books started getting published, all the power behind all that stuff is just gone immediately. Because now we’re like, any Tom, Dick, and Harry can go into a courtroom and start throwing hand signs and what they’re. And everyone just gets out if you know, the secret sign. So the president still does it when the president of the church in them. The president of the Mormon church. Memory of the family line. Or, you know, I mean, son, because. Because they’d had it with his shit. Because he was boinking everybody’s wives.
And so nobody helped him because basically also he stole their ceremony and he gave it to women, which I don’t think was a good idea at that time, because even now they have separate things for women with masonry. But mormonism is for the whole family. Right? And so he stole all their stuff and they were off. And I’m pretty sure that that’s why he still died. But. But the connection was that Joseph Smith, so was in jail in Carthage, Illinois. Right. And the Carthage grays were the local militia. They had, like a couple hundred people on register, something like that.
Joseph Smith and his town next door. We talked a little bit about earlier about the Nauvoo legion, the original real Mormon Mafia. They were the largest. They were the largest military unit of. In the United States official anywhere. And they, they wielded that power. Well, they had like over 1000 members, more armed Mormons. They had uniforms, they had weapons, they had ammunition, they had training, they had everything. And the rumor had gotten out that the Mormons are going to send the Nauvoo Legion over to break Joseph and hire him out of jail, which apparently was a credible thing.
They actually were trying to do that, organizing to do that. And so the Carthage Greys come out and they decide, well, we don’t have enough guys to oppose the legion, if the legion really does march out here. But before they get here, we can just take that Joseph Smith out and bring justice on. Because he was in jail for treason. He was awaiting trial for treason. And so they, they go over to the jail. They, and when they get there, lo and behold, Joseph Smith pops out into the hallway. He’s not even in a cell. And they don’t realize that he’s in a cell.
And he’s got a pepper box in his hand. You don’t have a pepper box. Pistol. Pulls it out there and shoots the guy in the face. And then they’re like, okay, well, it’s on. And so they start, they open fire. They kill his brother, Hiram Smith, through the door. They just start shooting through it. And one of the balls just hits Hiram in the face. And Joseph suddenly realizes he’s going to lose this fight. So he runs to the window to escape. You know, you, he’s got, his boys are there. Willard Richards is in there. John Taylor’s in there.
There’s a whole theory about John Taylor’s is hiding because he’s actually in league with the, with the, with the Carthage grace. He’s actually hiding. It’s why he survived. Anyways, Joseph throws open the window, and the way the Mormon cell is, he looked out, he put his hands out the window and shouted, oh lord, my God. And then they, they killed him for that. They shot him and he fell down to the ground. The truth is, he was saying, oh Lord God, is there no help for the widow’s son? Which is a grand hailing, grand hailing of distress and freemasonry.
His father was a mason. He was a mason. Got kicked out. Is there no doubt in the grave? Yep. Yep. This was Joseph. I do, I do a whole show on occult Mormonism and the occult symbolism and ties to Joseph Smith, who I do think saw something very similar story to Crowley, very similar story to Scientology with Parsons and Hubbard and all kinds of things. So this stuff is not new. There’s nothing new under the sun. So, anyway, I’m really into the serial killer stuff. Is there any other serial killers you’ve researched? Oh, yeah, there’s Jody Arias.
There’s a lot of Mormon serial killers. No, I would like to look into that Ted Bundy thing. Yeah, it’s very. The deeper you get into it, the more interesting it is. Joe and I have done all these shows on my Patreon, too. We do murders, Mormon, and mayhem on the patreon. Just because, you know, you can talk a little more freely. I put your links in my description, too, so awesome. Cool. Thank you. What? That’s actually. That’s a good spot to let everyone do some plugs here. So, because it looks like there’s a lot of people in chat that were cross pollinating a few different streams here.
Everyone’s asking where Tommy’s channel is on YouTube. Probably doesn’t exist right now. Or do you have a YouTube channel right now, Tommy? Oh, yeah. Tommy truthful tv. Yeah, give. Yeah, give all your plugs, man. Tommy is a longtime friend. Truthful tv, Truth mafia podcast on Facebook. We just broke 302,000 followers. Shout out to all y’all. You know, we’re live right on there now. And Tommy truthful tv on Instagram as well, which they got me stuck at 103,000. I can’t believe it. Bastards. Yeah, and a bunch of people were asking what happened to truth mafia? Truth mafia is right here.
We’re working about the YouTube channel that got taken down, though. Okay. Okay. That makes more sense. That makes more sense. Yeah. They’re not talking about us as a. As which one day they might try to hit us with racketeering. So we got to be careful, you know? Well, they already got donut because he’s a juggalo. So let me tell you something. I looked into Matt racketeering that they hit the real mafia with because my homeboy brought it up to me. He’s like, tommy, you better hope they never hit you with no mom shit. So, you know, I look into it, and I’m.
As long as they don’t make anything illegal that we talk about, they can’t hit us with it. But if they ever would outlaw, like, speech, the stuff we talk about, then they could hit us with some racketeering shit on truth mafia, which is kind of ironic. Wow. What a joke. Damn crazy. But it was just a bunch of us content creators that work together, that cross promote each other, help each other out. Me? Yeah. Paranoid American. You know, we got some of the biggest names. Awesome. The game. So we only got one other girl, Heidi. We need some females in the crew.
Hey, I’m down for it. Yeah, hit me up. Heidi goes. Goes hard, especially in, like, the cabbage patch thing. Like, that would be an awesome one. Well, you got swimming. Paranoid. I told donut this the other day. He hangs out with some cool chicks. I don’t know about the guys he hangs out with. Other women are on point, you know. There you go. There you go. The one I did, she was talking about astral projection and stuff. She’s phenomenal. Yeah. Shout out is the secret society of good guys. Abby, Layla, and Cheney. You can find all them, too.
If you look for a secret society of good guys on YouTube, it’s probably the quickest way to find them. And we’re gonna start doing shows on Wednesdays at 08:00 p.m. eastern. So it’ll be accessible to a lot more people. We were normally, we were doing them. We just doing last night Fridays from, like, midnight to, like, 04:00 a.m. but it’s. It’s for a small amount of people that are actually up for those lives. So, yeah, we’ll start doing those. You’re totally invited on one of those, too, Tommy. Oh, yeah. I would love to come on and talk to.
Hey, can you send me the thumbnail for this brother, please? Yeah, yeah. I do already know. Send that to the video. And I want to give everyone a chance to throw their plugs to Donut. You came in to tell everyone where to find Donut. What the hell donut’s all about? Oh, you can find me at Illuminati comic calm. I even got the link down below Illuminati comic calm. You sign up, and it’s a project that paranoid american and I have been working on and is going to release soon. And go there and you sign up for that Illuminati Comic con.
Let’s go find them under doughnut factory on all platform d o e n u t. He’s a little humble. He’s not gonna donut. I’m the most on the planet. You are. And he’s wicked smart. He’s wicked smart. All right. I am. I am Heidi, love. I’m everywhere. Podcasts are served. I do have most of my people on Spotify. I only release on YouTube once a week, twice a week on Spotify because of censorship. So that’s interesting. And I also have my own website, unfiltered rise podcast.com. and just check me out there and Patreon for more murders and mayhem and Mormons with Exmo Joe.
Murder, mayhem and Mormon right through the mate right there. And a cult Mormonism demographic with him not believing conspiracies and you more believing. So we do that for Patreon only. That’s my Patreon show. I just do a bonus show instead of cutting anything. And I do those twice a month with Exmo Joe. And he is on a completely different spectrum of the wave as me. And we get along great. And it’s a super fun, more silly. So lots of information. Yeah, we get into nazi Mormon connections. Like, there’s some stuff you don’t even know. Like, it’s crazy.
So, yeah, yeah, it gets fun. Yeah. A cult Mormon. My boy, in the comments that’s flipping out right now about gray aliens. He’s been following me a long time. He is obsessed with gray aliens. He said one saved his father at one point. So he gets so mad when I call him. When I call them demons. And, you know, guys would really go, the more pissed I get him, the more I’m gonna call it them. Just. Oh, no, you guys would really go for an episode that Heidi and I did on her podcast about the visions of glory book that Tim Ballard and Chad Daybell and Lori Valerie.
Yeah, this whole Mormon, they’re all about zombies, aliens and demons that striking you on the head until you go to the naughty site websites. We got. We got even the dude alien. He probably, you know, didn’t take his medicine for sure. And he thinks he’s seen some shit none of us know. Like, I’ve never met a gray alien myself. Have you, donut? Have you? Paranoid. I never seen one. So I was at a. I was at an insane clown posse concert, and I’m pretty. There was a grail in there. Or was it a covenant never to reveal it? Yeah, it could have been a person or.
But the handshake, it was weird. It was weird looking. Whatever. The thing about you, Heidi, have you ever seen aliens? No aliens. Just a lot of weird stuff. I’ve seen demons. I’ve seen demons. Yeah. Look very damn similar to what one of these grays are supposed to look like. So. Like a ghost present? Yeah. I hope. I don’t see. I’ll be scared. I do, too. At night, I sleep with the lights on. Like that. I can’t sleep. We had an interesting conversation about this with Heidi and I recently with our. With an unreleased yet as yet, I think.
Upennesse, right? Yeah. Yeah. About this guy, Kevin Sullivan that I just did this two hour interview about Ted Bundy with he told me about the time that he would. He, you know, this was like years and years after Bundy had been executed, and he had did an interview with the guy who, who led the investigation, the Jack Mormon who led the investigation here in Utah. And he’s like, I’ll come out to Kentucky and I’ll meet up with you. And he’s like, okay, great. And he shows up, and he’s carrying a bag in his hand. He’s like, what? What’s going on with that? And he’s like, oh, this is the bag.
This is Bundy’s bag. And he holds it, and he’s got Ted Bundy’s murder bag. Opens it up the garbage bags, pulls out the. Pulls out the, the tire iron. He pulls out the handcuffs, he pulls out the gloves. He pulls out everything, right? Anyway, long story short, he comes to the end of it. He’s like. And. And he takes off tears off one of Bundy’s garbage bags, the ones he used to bury girls parts in. And he like. And he hands it to him, and he’s like, that’s a gift from me to you. And he just walked out.
Basically, the guy had walked out with all their Ted Bundy evidence. Just walked. He’s like, he’s like, the guy told me. He’s like, right now, the evidence closet in Salt Lake City for the Ted Bundy case is empty. I. He’s like, I have it. This is it. And so. And he’s like, hey. He’s like, he says to me. Says, hey, send me your address. I says, my my physical address. And he’s like, yeah. He’s like, it’s something I do for friends sometimes, but I’m gonna cut off a piece of Ted Bundy’s garbage bag and send it to you.
And I told Heidi about that. She’s like, you’re not gonna take it, are you? That’s got all. Also, I told him you’re gonna hang it next to your probably temple ceiling thing, right? My excommunication letter. Yep. Like I said, man, all Satanists start as edgy atheists, and all of a sudden, you start collecting serial killer stuff, and you’ll one day you’re going to look around and be like, oh, I’m already a satanist. I’m already surrounded by all of this. My connection to Bundy really has nothing to do with. It has to do with my mormonism, though.
That’s the thing, is that we can get into that whole story. Heidi. Heidi and I did a podcast where I was jewish then I became a man at 13 and went through my rite of passage at my bar mitzvah and then became an atheist. And I was this atheist all the way till 2012. A mormon man did a prayer with me because I was dating his granddaughter at the time. And I went over for dinner and they did a prayer in a circle, and it was like, jesus, strengthen the food or whatever. But I felt. I felt something, though.
I felt something. I was like, that was cool. In my atheist mind, I was like, that’s cool. Like, maybe it’s just some sort of mantra or, like affirmation. But then I got sober years later in like, 2015, through the twelve steps, and I started to pray to God to remove my obsession to drink and do drugs, and something was lifted. So then I started to believe in God again. Everybody can see that episode. Do not laugh. But you all can. Actually, it’s episode 69. Oh, nice. Interesting story, since we’re on this podcast. Yeah, we’re talking about Mormons, atheists and all that.
And that has been part of my life story. The true order of prayer. It works. President Nelson would have wished he knew that before they shortened it. They just changed all the mormon temple rituals this last couple of weeks. Again? Again. Yep, they shortened it. They took out. So, like, there used to be a circular prayer. No, no, this is the endowment of. They used to do this thing where they would pray in the adamic language, which is the language that Adam spoke, supposedly. And they would, you would raise your hands above your head. This is only in the temple.
And you would get around in a circle and you do this prayer. And then at the end, they would do all the signs, all the. All the Freemason signs, the funny hat dance, as we used to call it. And then we. Then they did get to. They get to the last sign, the last sign, the highest sign in the Mormon endowment ceremony. You would put your hands up in the air and then you would say, pay, lay ale three times. Pay lay hail pay. And, oh, and that was too weird when the Mormons tried to go mainstream, so they changed it to moving your hand straight down.
You would say, oh, God, hear the words of my mouth. Oh, God. You’d say it three times. It was still like, this is still culty, guys. We’re still being a cult. The women would veil their faces. It was all, yeah, yeah. I have a whole. Yeah. And everybody holds. Everybody does the secret handshakes. And the men, the men all put their left elbow on a woman’s shoulder. But then it’s like there’s like this whole thing about who’s who. The left shoulder go. The left elbow goes on the right shoulder of a woman, unless there’s not enough.
And then which case one man has to play a woman kind of thing. It’s like. So anyways, it’s like, it’s, it’s a weird thing, but they just, this last week, last week or the week before, they announced that they had taken out the repetition. So apparently I haven’t confirmed this yet, but apparently it’s that you only have to do. Oh, God, we hear the words in my mouth one time, and that’s like that and that and a whole bunch of other stuff that they just made it a little less redundant so that you can get out of there within an hour or hours.
Long hours. Yeah. It was so long and it was so culty and so creepy. So anyway, Joe, where. Where can people find you? Yeah, so I’m Hellfire agency. Hell yeah. And you can find my website is Hellfire dot agency. There’s no.com. the dot agency is the.com. that’s where the big, long, exclusive content is that I’ve been releasing as quickly as I can to those of you who may be out there, but a couple of you who are actual subscribers, but if you’re anywhere that podcasts are, look up Hellfire agency podcast. I’m there, including on YouTube at Hellfire agency.
On YouTube so far until I get caught. So, yeah, that’s me. Awesome. Well, thank you for coming on, you guys. Tommy, get my number off paranoid America. Y’all make sure that you guys connect. That would be an amazing show. I’d love to be involved, even if it’s just to laugh at whatever comes up. No no, you definitely be on it, brother. Sounds good. I want to know too, for those, you’re always welcome. I appreciate that. And we’ve got. We’ve got conspiracy cinema coming to. There’s a bunch of comments asking where’s the next conspiracy? Like, we’ve got them planned, where we’ve, we got a new format.
We’re switching it up, but, oh, and guys, by the way, I’m going to post. I got a 15 minutes video. I’m probably gonna get in big trouble for posting it, but we’re gonna see if it works. I’m gonna post it on rumble. It’s a screen recording of the new crow. So, you know, I decoded it that I was telling you all about. I’ll upload that and let y’all see what I was talking about there. I so far I’ve been doing movie breakdowns on Rumble and haven’t gotten trouble yet. So, you know, it’s a loophole right now.
Cool. You guys gotta let me know if you ever want an exclusive preview or review of statesmen and symbols. The paranoid wants Freemason. Freemasonry and Tim Ballard and Mormonism gone again. Oh, he’s kidding. Where do they get that? Is that something you promote or something? No, this is something I stole. I bought it from the Joseph Smith foundation, which is the Mormon. This is the Mormon crew that’s trying to. That actually thinks that the Mormon church is being overthrown by. By wokeness. And so they’re trying to save it by bringing people back to the true Mormonism and the true history of Joseph Smith and Tim Ballard is their boy.
Overthrown right now by people that are able to think for their self is pretty much what that is. Right. But that’s not the way they say it, as you. But let’s be honest. I think all you know, and I, and I’m a firm believer in religion, freedom of religion expression. But some of these places, like Mormonism and Scientology, it seems they. They shun people for. If you don’t want to be involved, that’s not right. Yep. But thank you for having us on, paranoid. I appreciate it, man. Yeah, thank you. Thanks for having a weird man. I’m glad.
I’m glad you hit up in the comments. This turned into a way more lively show than originally planned. So I love, this is why I love doing live streams way more than pre recorded sometimes, because this doesn’t happen in a pre recorded show. It couldn’t have because those exist in, like, a little bubble. So I love the chat. Everyone was killing it with the interactions and jokes and everything. I love everyone in the chat. Make sure you go into the description and follow everyone that’s linked here because we all got completely different variety of topics. And as you can see, like, when it all comes together, we’ve got awesome conversations that come out of it.
So it wouldn’t be possible without everyone that was on this panel today. Awesome. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, guys. So I’m going to play us out with a brand new commercial for a brand new thing. You’ll probably see if everyone here wants it. You’ll be involved, but you’ll see a donut card, you’ll see a tommy truthful card, an unfiltered rise card, maybe a joker. You got to come to Jesus first, Joe. Then you get a card. Oh, Joe. I’m out. You got to come. Oh, come on. Joe. Joe, next time I see you, I want you to look into gnosticism, the apocrypha of John, and then come talk to me about Jesus.
It might make you look at them a whole different way. I know quite a lot. I would like to do that actually, because I, and I, if anybody knows of any debates, anybody’s looking for atheist debates or any debates over early Christianity, I’m in. Any debates about mormonism, I’m in. I’ll be, I’m ready to be the, I’ll set that up for sure, man. I know some pretty hardcore christians that not is Bill, not, no no. I feel like I gave, I gave as good as I got with that debate with Jacob is bell. And then I think maybe got some, I think, I think, you know, I’m gonna say I won that debate.
I never felt I watched that episode. And I guess maybe I just didn’t know the context going in. It didn’t, it only turned into a bay. It never really seemed like it started as a debate. It kind of like evolved into one. So I think I would love to see like two people going in. Jacob, Jacob, if you’re watching this, I’m sorry, we’ve all called Joe a horrible heathen satanist multiple times now. So he’s the back, but the best where they can have a friendly conversation and no one gets their feelings hurt, you know. Well, that was the thing is we did it, we did it as a conversation where it’s like, let’s just all agree we disagree on these points because his, of course, his position is that Joseph Smith was never a polygamist, which is, its a, it’s just absurd.
And, and I felt like I gave it, I gave it to him pretty well. But the idea was, look, let’s all just give and take a little bit and just come away as friends from this. And you know, it got heated in the middle, but at the end I feel like it came, like it came off well. Yeah, yeah. Hey, it happens. I’ve had heated ones with me. Paranoid donut. They make for the best shows sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. So, well, everyone tune in for, for the next show. We’ll like, we’ll stir up some shit and then we’ll, we’ll cause some debates to happen, even if it doesn’t happen.
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